no they didn't
#40k-lore-chat
rose thorn
if they at least sold hte new sprue by it self it woudl be completley okay
rose thorn
gw hates gsc so
rose thorn
they took all of the best parts of gsc and binned it for 10th, its even weirder because we had it in the index
raven stone
And if it helps, it probably doesn’t but still…
Nowadays you want Kasrkin as your Brood Bros anyways.
They are the only Guard unit that gets Orders.
And even though I said ignore the tabletop, the truth is, GW will never make Brood themed Kasrkin model anyways.
Meaning you end up spending the same, for what it’s worth.
arctic talon
I would not call brood bros the best part of GSC personally
tbh
but its still dumb
its locked in its own detach
rose thorn
brood brotehrs in previous editions were pretty importantn, then they got rid of the 25% brood brothers
arctic talon
But saying GW hates GSC is a huge stretch
and is honestly kind of disengenous imo
Like I get if you're mad at GW
but saying GW hates GSC isn't true imo
raven stone
its locked in its own detach
The consequences of bending the knee to ensuring competitive balance. Any allied sheets are locked into one detachment.
crystal forum
they could do a codex just for guard sub armies like tau guard, heretic guard and gene guard
arctic talon
Not really
Brood bros weren't even problematic
this isn't pro plays fault
the best GSC lists in 9e weren't running any
same with 10e
arctic talon
not in the most optimal list
the bike + car one
which was really cool to watch but absurdly hard to pilot lol
But yeah I think one of the runner ups for "best" army list ran brood bro artillery
but if you want to blame comp play then blame comp play for something valid
rather then just having a hate boner for comp play lol
rose thorn
i never would blame comp
arctic talon
you can blame them for the excessive amounts of terrain cover this edition
well I'm not saying that to you
rose thorn
oh okay
arctic talon
Like there's 2 big things comp is responsible for this edition
#1 command point economy
#2 cover out the ass
rose thorn
for gsc getting dumbed down i would have pointed fingers at people who didnt understand cross fire
but im bais
rose thorn
i loved cross fir
arctic talon
you're correct
they both got dumbed down for casual players
and then they still don't touch the armies because the dumbed down version still has too much complexity
also the fact that GW's push to simplify the game to make it more appealing to people who don't play regularly
cut multiple army rules
which gut several armies
rose thorn
LMAO
arctic talon
Drukhari, GSC, Admech, Space Marines(ironic I know), and Tyranids all ate varying levels of shit
to complexity due to GW's goal of making the game more casual friendly
which again failed
because GW just fucking BACKLOADED THE COMPLEXITY INTO DATASHEETS
YOU'RE NOT MAKING IT MORE SIMPLE, IF ANYTHING ITS MORE COMPLEX
HOW THE FUCK IS SOMEONE NEW SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHICH VERSION OF THE LEMAN RUSS GETS REROLLS AND WHICH ONE DIES HARDER
okay sorry
got that issue with 10e off of my chest
rose thorn
its weird because aos got uber simplified and tied complex mechanics to their big characters
arctic talon
AoS 4e imo is treading the same failures as 10e regarding complexity shift
but at least AoS doesn't have units that look almost the exact same
have different abilities
so its much more excusible
arctic talon
its weird because aos got uber simplified and tied complex mechanics to their bi...
Also this is more fine for AoS since AoS is much more hero hammery
rose thorn
very true
i will say army buidling got shafted pretty hard, i almost feel like the games shoudl switch amry building
but meh its fun trying to get lists to wrok
arctic talon
yeah no
I don't like massive simplification of army building
AoS's armybuilding is imo rn more complex
part of the fun is putting the force together
rose thorn
40k has hero attaches, which was soimethng aos players were expecting for a while
arctic talon
tbf
that was something back from 3e of 40k
or 2e
WHFB ironically never had it as a primary mechanic
rose thorn
and aos already had attache style units
arctic talon
I'm glad attaching leaders is back
rose thorn
it seems really fun when in armies that arent hell
alot of armies like fec, dok, gloomspite are very key word heavy so it could work
and like half of chaos is keyword split
rocky gale
I've been out of the loop on balance, how are things sitting?
rose thorn
i really wanan run a monsterlist
arctic talon
Chaos Daemons are commiting terrorism in 40k
lol
is the big one
in AoS its uh
still nighthaunt in the lead
rose thorn
fec has been wrecking
rose thorn
there was jsut a abalance patch for aos
rocky gale
Wait FEC aren't bottom of the barrel anymore?
rose thorn
that htey didnt admit
rocky gale
Damn
arctic talon
but whatever its funny
rose thorn
they are getting a battletome soon
rocky gale
You miss one update and the world turns upside down
rose thorn
i think you missed 2 if you didnt see hte fec buff
rocky gale
Oh
arctic talon
Woehammer is the best one for AoS stats right
I know stat-check is by far the best for 40k
but I'm less sure for AoS stats
arctic talon
I wanted like a WR chart 
Goonhammer is nice
shame that the name choice retroactively became
certinaly a choice
rose thorn
oh my bad i was sending the rules update
rose thorn
i think it was mostly orruk changes
dusky beacon
Yeah Gue'vesa usually refers to humans absorbed into the Tau empire
crystal forum
cool
storm jungle
🧊
gray umbra
dusk patrol
vagrant fox
craving a sip from the necromunda sludge seas
dapper gyro
You can drink Eternal's sludge.
vagrant fox
Perhaps I will next time he is based
opaque coyote
Hey as long as it works.
The fuck cybernetic arm and fucked up head half says a lot
"If I were a BAD demoman, I wouldn't SITTING HERE DISCUSSING IT WITH YA. WOULDN'T I?"
dusky beacon
Ah
dusk patrol
Explicator is one
dusky beacon
I'm cooking up a story and need my ranks and stuff straight
dusk patrol
Generally it goes
Acolyte: Lots of sub ranks and stuff here, very broad. Generally just like, means you work for the Inquisition on some level
You're in the retinue on some level, but you could be a simple servant or a merc who got taken on. Very broad.
Explicator is above that, it generally means you have been singled out and are potentially being groomed to be an Inquisitor
Interrogator means you're definitely being seen as possible Inquisitor material, and is the step before Inquisitor generally.
Theres also High Interrogator but we don't see that much, basically just, Interrogator+
In order to become a Inquisitor you need the support of three Inquisitors, which includes your mentor, or a Lord Inquisitor.
And theres trials and stuff, Interrogators are often sent on solo missions and other wildly dangerous things to prove they're ready.
And a lot never make the jump.
dusky beacon
I also know that Inquisitors generally do their own thing and can promote or demote their acolytes however they see fit
dusk patrol
Basically, theres a ton of leeway with how they run their own shop.
dusky beacon
Because they have a funny little badge that says "The Emperor Says I Can Do What I Want"
dusk patrol
They can basically make whoever they want into Interrogators or Explicators or whatever but in order for an Interrogator to become an Inquisitor they need extra support or to be an Inquisition Lord, and thats just to get them into the door.
The Ordo itself then tests them extensively to see if they're fit.
dusky beacon
Hmm so it dosent really matter if the character I'm brainstorming is an Explicator or an Interrogator
dusk patrol
It depends on where you want them on their path.
Explicator isn't a rank used a ton, but its basically the first step and likely still fairly young and new in the retinue. Interrogators tend to be decades deep into their career with the Inquisitor.
Explicator just means they're seen as having potential to make the next step.
All of this can vary a lot depending on the Inquisitor too
Some have vast warbands and a lot of agents and stuff, which is what we see in Darktide with Grendyl. Some keep it much closer to the chest.
And are much more personally involved with their lower level people.
dusky beacon
Yeah I'm shooting for more of an espionage angle with the character
So far the very basic framework of their role is that their Inquisitor has assigned them to investigate a planet with reports of heresy/sedition/xenos or whatever, and it's being treated like one last trial before they make Inquisitor themselves
So probably an Interrogator
dusk patrol
Probably yeah
Its up to you, its open ended.
Its the boring answer but, its how it is for Rogue Traders and Inquisitors, its made to be open ended.
dusky beacon
Yeah which is why Inquisitors make for such good stories, less red tape in the way in terms of lore
I think i have a really good idea for a story cooking up
plush mason
Some have vast warbands and a lot of agents and stuff, which is what we see in D...
btw, do we know Melk's rank within the warband? he seems to almost outrank Rannick in a way
shadow plover
He's a BMF
dusk patrol
Nah, it’s just not that simple
Hadron and Morrow for example don’t have technical ranks that we know but their duties and control is pretty high up
In Inquisition terms that is
Rannick technically outranks them all but they can also probably talk to Grendyl directly so it’s not that simple
Its like the difference between NCO and COs in the military
Experience and seniority matter and even if someone outranks someone it doesn’t mean they can always tell them what to do or that they care to.
plush mason
so they cant flat out pull rank and ignore Rannick but they can pressure him if they need too basically
opaque coyote
So basically
What do y'all think Paradise Worlds look like
sharp pollen
planet size Dubai
opaque coyote
Honestly I can imagine it still being like
A shithole on the outside.
But there's a fake sky covering all of the smog and shit
So it looks Sunny
But it's still shit air quality wise
Don't ask how the fake sky works
dusk patrol
so they cant flat out pull rank and ignore Rannick but they can pressure him if ...
He’s in command but they still have Grendyl’s ear
plush mason
to pad the egos of the rich
opaque coyote
to attract whores
2/3 of those are already done by regular cities though
Not sure about the rich idiot part though
I guess major cities also fit the bill
Like Los Angeles or New York
plush mason
Not sure about the rich idiot part though
why is that one idiot CEO trying to build a new city near Phoenix instead of improving the already existing city? because improving something isnt as grand as making something new
the mega rich are all man children and only care about grand standing
shadow plover
So basically
What do y'all think Paradise Worlds look like
it depends, some are literal natural paradises and some have domed cities built to be paradises
opaque coyote
Honestly why don't CEOs do more awesome shit instead of making new city or a new monument.
If I was rich I would totally make a really extravagant dog park
celest dome
More difficult to put something under your name when it has already existed for a long time.
And renovating something often mean that there are still people from before, people that those rich people do not want
celest dome
Honestly why don't CEOs do more awesome shit instead of making new city or a new...
Money corrupt, and or they were already corrupt
They don't work on the same morales as normal peoples
opaque coyote
Money corrupt, and or they were already corrupt
If you're already corrupt, why not do something funny
Make a gigantic cock shaped building
plush mason
Money corrupt, and or they were already corrupt
you dont become mega rich by being good and virtuous
opaque coyote
Who's gonna stop you??
plush mason
Make a gigantic cock shaped building
they already do that lol
storm jungle
"Why does this extremely dangerous warp-mutated orgywreck of ships need the heaviest armored Marines to explore it? Its not dangerous is it?"
shadow plover
are they stupid
queen laurel
Brother
green loom
storm jungle
I do hate how much also assholes like Abnett play into this shit
shadow plover
Oh man I can guess what the comments are like
green loom
There was like 2 40k comments
green loom
One of them was going "oh well the imperium isn't what the Emperor wanted!!! If you look at the horrible monsters the genocide of all those innocent people is totally justified"
storm jungle
God fuck off
spring cairn
you can't do anything bad when you have hair that look this good past 60 years old
storm jungle
The only difference between 30k and 40k Imperium is one just had more fire/manpower lol
also no religion, which doesnt exactly do much
green loom
Bro when he finds out the only major difference between then and now is the Ecclesiarchy...
hallow plover
The mental gymnastics in these kind of threads
storm jungle
Like, as I always say
its easier to say these IRL unless you are on a planet being invaded by space marines for "compliance", im sure you'd welcome them with open arms then lol
forest orbit
Yeah it is
forest orbit
What's the context?
Cerci one of the minor sorceress characters in DC shows Amanda Waller a vision of the future where a warlord lady will take over the earth if they dont stop her now when shes a nobody princess.
storm jungle
^
forest orbit
Hence all the planetary genocide images and all the dead heroes impaled on spikes and shit
storm jungle
Recommended watch btw, its from James Gunn so always worth it
forest orbit
Also that.
hallow plover
hallow plover
I'll check it out this weekend
queen laurel
Hence all the planetary genocide images and all the dead heroes impaled on spike...
i highly doubt those so called those advance armor can take over the world because bro like it has been shown multiple times that that **** ain't bulletproof
and you're telling me that thing is gonna put superman on the ground?
yeah no
forest orbit
Well we do know Cerci wasnt lying.
The Princess bitch probably found better material or something
storm jungle
Grodd is my favorite fictional gorilla, sorry Winston
shadow plover
the competition isn't really that fierce
storm jungle
Yeah but statements must be made
green loom
True, it's not like Titus is that interesting
queen laurel
Grodd is my favorite fictional gorilla, sorry Winston
a nerd versus a gorilla with mind control powers
green loom
storm jungle
a nerd versus a gorilla with mind control powers
Grodd also wanted to make America Grodd Again like Ed said
Winston did nothing for 9 years
fucking Overwatch
green loom
a nerd versus a gorilla with mind control powers
Excuse you, that's Barack Obama
shadow plover
queen laurel
https://youtu.be/EqoFgAB0_9A?si=s26-F1xtKaMOVG8a still one of my favourite sequences in a show
storm jungle
the song in that section is SOOOO fucking good
i got it saved on my phone, its a banger
forest orbit
I cannot get over how much of a musical trivia knowledge Gunn has
dusk patrol
Show was pretty solid, needed more episodes. The little twist at the end felt like it needed way more setup.
forest orbit
every media he makes makes me discover songs id never find myself
queen laurel
the song in that section is SOOOO fucking good
phosphorus absolutely melting a tank with the song is great
storm jungle
its one of the selling points/best part of his products imo
dusk patrol
It’s his signature
storm jungle
yeah he basically puts them in as like
"well i like this song, i hope people do too"
and it always works lol
queen laurel
James Gunn master of the obscure
dusk patrol
He does it in literally every movie he’s done I think
forest orbit
Hes just really musically "cultured" i guess
the songs always are kinda seperated and fit the scenes they are in
compared to uh
storm jungle
the first Suicide Squad movie?
forest orbit
💀
forest orbit
Show was pretty solid, needed more episodes. The little twist at the end felt li...
Its definitely fast but i liked it that way, ironically somewhat makes it more digestable.
I had people tell me its "trash" because people swear constantly in it but i didnt really see it lol
dusk patrol
It was good it’s just the “surprise” villain needed more to it
storm jungle
People dont like being reminded of how much people swear IRL when having banter
dusk patrol
That whole bit is super rushed by the end
forest orbit
Yeah it was good but definitely needed more
like it did made me go "oh shit" but also "welp"
storm jungle
The boobs distracted me
dusk patrol
Also I’m not really sure how that girl was taking over the entire world and killing the Justice league but
storm jungle
I guess
dusk patrol
Whatever
forest orbit
Yeah dumber things have happened in comics
queen laurel
the first Suicide Squad movie?
this is the only suicide squad movie that matters if you remind me with the other one i will absolutely burn down anything i see
storm jungle
this is the only suicide squad movie that matters if you remind me with the othe...
The suicide squad movie is legit peak
never had as much fun in cinema as much as I had with this movie, its so good
storm jungle
queen laurel
The suicide squad movie is legit peak
yeah and they did something I can't believe they did in modern day cinema, Make Nanotech exciting
storm jungle
Dude Bloodsport's tech was so fucking cool
dusk patrol
Peacemaker was pretty good, one of his weaker things I thought, but I mostly liked it.
queen laurel
Dude Bloodsport's tech was so fucking cool
Yeah honestly
storm jungle
Peacemaker was pretty good, one of his weaker things I thought, but I mostly lik...
Yeah every character was really fun
queen laurel
It's the best type of nanotech I have seen
queen laurel
polka dot man was sad though
storm jungle
rare death where i actually laughed but also felt sad lol
queen laurel
Imagine becoming a freak of nature because your mother is so obsessed with superheroes
dusk patrol
I’m curious if Superman will be any good
The trailers really don’t do it for me at all
celest dome
Super Hero movies are better when they're not trying to be overly serious
shadow plover
I'm feeling pretty positive about it, given how I don't really care for most what Gunn has made
dusk patrol
It depends, you just have to write it well, which obviously is hard
celest dome
Like have the social commentary, but don't treat yourself like you're doing a masterpiece thinking movie
dusk patrol
I have some issues with Gunns writing, I think he does it better than most but he doesn’t let the dramatic stuff breathe enough sometimes
green loom
That show is on like season 4 by now but I've never heard anything about it
dusk patrol
Oh that one
It’s fine, I think part of the problem with it is the novelty has worn off a little
green loom
Yeah like you'd think it'd be prime grift material what with the humour and Yuri ntr
But not even they've touched it afaik which is kinda shocking
dusk patrol
The first couple seasons were a more fresh idea but Harley Quinn has been kinda
Overdone
Also reminds me of this
Where in a kids show
They make a bunch of innuendos about how superheros are bad at sex
Except Batman
queen laurel
It’s fine, I think part of the problem with it is the novelty has worn off a lit...
that's kinda what happened with the boys as well
green loom
Poor Kite man getting NTRd
queen laurel
like they were good but how long can you stretch them
dusk patrol
that's kinda what happened with the boys as well
The Boys writing has drastically dropped
I was rewatching season 1
And it’s insane how much better it is
queen laurel
The Boys writing has drastically dropped
Yeah out of the three shows that I know that are still continuing and have a positive reception much is like only invincible
dusk patrol
And they bother to like, think through the powers
It should have ended like two seasons ago
But whatever
queen laurel
like invincible held itself still
dusk patrol
Yeah that has very strong source material
queen laurel
which is nowadays pretty impressive
dusk patrol
Which goes on for some time
The Boys they made it better but the source material kinda sucked and they’ve been dragging it out
And now there’s gonna be spinoffs with soldier boy and probably others
The one uh
green loom
I feel like they have far too little actual consequences for the homelander side
dusk patrol
Generation V
green loom
It feels pretty nihilistic by the end
dusk patrol
It feels more and more silly each season that Homelander doesn’t kill then
Which is kinda the issue of having a villain like that but
Idk
Next season is probably the last at least
Idk how they can drag it out more
green loom
Especially when it's shown he is basically allowed wanton murder with no consequence
dusk patrol
Also the shock value stuff is just so
Eh
It’s got some very good actors which elevate it
Antony Starr did the exact same with Banshee
I love that show and it really has no business being any good, but he and a few other actors elevated it way beyond what it should have been
storm jungle
Super Hero movies are better when they're not trying to be overly serious
its kinda why Im pretty excited for the Superman movie
the populace has also kinda gone through a phase of like
"superman should be serious" to "Superman should just be a nice person, i miss that era"
its pretty funny
forest orbit
"superman should be serious" to "Superman should just be a nice person, i miss t...
One of my favorite meme trends with starman
storm jungle
Same, it kinda wore itself out but it was still pretty wholesome which is strange for most memes nowadays lol
forest orbit
It definitely had a huge hand in it for me, I kinda prefered Superman to be a bit "grounded" sometimes but him just being a nice person is definitely missed by a lot of the viewing audience which is why i also got high hopes
paper haven
Have you not yet learned to not be excited for new stuff?
storm jungle
ive not watched a single project of his I hated, he also extremely gets superheroes which helps
forest orbit
Also has this weird ass talent to make the most obscure characters extremely likable
I dont know how him and his team do it lol
forest orbit
oof
storm jungle
forest orbit
storm jungle
Amazing what you can do when you actually pay for good writers
forest orbit
💪
I clapped when i saw captain america's shield
also i clapped when end credits scene
hallow basin
forest orbit
KEK
plush mason
"superman should be serious" to "Superman should just be a nice person, i miss t...
wasnt there a recent comic where superman was trying to not solve every problem earth had because dr fate or someone told him he was making humans dependent on him and hurting their ability to deal with problems on their own?
storm jungle
wasnt there a recent comic where superman was trying to not solve every problem ...
Yeah but comics are stupid.
dusk patrol
Same, it kinda wore itself out but it was still pretty wholesome which is strang...
There’s a Staaaaaaaaarmaaaaaa-
storm jungle
There’s a Staaaaaaaaarmaaaaaa-
AAAAAA
dusk patrol
storm jungle
queen laurel
Rodall Juhziz mains when interacting with the world
dusk patrol
I want a comedy sketch of a suicide bomber using his vest for like, basic shit
And how it’s improved his life
crystal forum
eternal guess what
dusk patrol
Like he goes into a restaurant and wants his combo upgraded so he just pulls out the vest
crystal forum
dusk patrol
Yeah might need some brushing up
crystal forum
maybe a bit of time in a ethyl acetate solution to dissolve the outer later will help
i like to imagine the text on the barrels is a name given to each cannon by the iron hands
this here's the hammer of medusa and this one is your eternal reward
dusk patrol
Considering we have direct stories where IH get borderline romantic with their vehicles
It’s not unlikely
The wild thing with Fellblades and other variants, is they’re still driven by one marine really.
There two other crew there for the sponsons
shadow plover
The wild thing with Fellblades and other variants, is they’re still driven by on...
as in driven and operates the turret as well
sly ivy
shadow plover
die
dusk patrol
Depends, it could either be a crew of serfs and what not or it can be crewed by three marines
dusk patrol
as in driven and operates the turret as well
The commander is capable of controlling the tank by himself
But optimally all three are doing different things
But especially if they’re augmented properly, marines can pilot a lot of vehicles like that by themselves
And do, Land Raiders being another example
shadow plover
Well yeah but it seems a bit sub-optimal to have the commander do all that by himself, even if they're an augmented space marine
shadow plover
land raiders are turretless anyways so that's not that surprising
dusk patrol
They’re not though, they’re controlling the guns on them
shadow plover
turret as in the big rotating gun platform on top of tanks
those are called turrets
dusk patrol
Being able to drive around and control the main gun and side guns is pretty basic stuff for any marine
Especially ones with an MIU
Techmarines and so on
plush mason
do space marine pilots look any different to normal battle brothers?
shadow plover
I know, you're just mixing up the terminology, tank's turret is the rotating platform where the main gun is located
dusk patrol
Techmarines but not really for most
Most marine drivers and pilots aren’t Techmarines
And probably only have an MIU augment if that
It’s also common they strip the pauldrons and use the vehicle to power their armor
To save space
plush mason
makes sense
dusk patrol
But it depends
dusk patrol
I really wanna convert the top guy to an IH Decurion but
Man that’s a lot of stuff to shave off
crystal forum
But especially if they’re augmented properly, marines can pilot a lot of vehicle...
ye i've seen it said in enough books that marines are trained in all of their vehicles to assume it's common knowledge
on a related note, is it not a little funny that the fellblade is clearly meant to sound like a baneblade but the falchion and glaive dont follow the naming convention
spare osprey
I really wanna convert the top guy to an IH Decurion but
I want his helmet
shadow plover
I'd say Fellblade is the odd one out where as Glaive and Falchion are both bladed weapons
tough haven
Also it’s fun
crystal forum
what are the hive nobles going to do? hire some underhivers to kill you?
that's just free practise
rocky gale
queen laurel
<:thinksister:874317316198895666>
welp i have no idea
celest dome
Probably some scenery, maybe Warcry ?
queen laurel
do they do Old world in rumor engines now
celest dome
I don't see why they wouldn't
queen laurel
yeah all i see is it's probably age of sigmar
but a small chance that it might be old world
plush mason
<:thinksister:874317316198895666>
all i see is ether rebar or nid biostructure
hallow plover
Rope bridge/netting or basket
plush mason
Rebar ? Where
the pipes making up the latus work
i guess struts would be a more accurate description
because some of them looked welded
keen nova
Do we know why eldar are not joing the t'au?
plush mason
because why the fuck would they?
hexed orchid
because why the fuck would they?
This lol
queen laurel
yeah what would they gain?
plush mason
for the eldar they are very much the master race of the galaxy still
celest dome
Do we know why eldar are not joing the t'au?
Because they're stupid 🤷
hexed orchid
To be a slave race to this young empire? Their ego couldn't handle it if nothing else
celest dome
Same thing apply to Human
plush mason
yup
keen nova
because why the fuck would they?
I totally understand this. I figured they just look down on them. But i thought an alliance would help them greatly
plush mason
I totally understand this. I figured they just look down on them. But i thought ...
would you join an alliance with the ants in your backyard?
thats how the eldar see the rest of the races
keen nova
yeah what would they gain?
Security, but as of the lastest codex, rare earth minerals to make wraithbone LOL
hexed orchid
I totally understand this. I figured they just look down on them. But i thought ...
I could see an alliance in the right circumstances but you need to understand how above everyone else the Eldar think they are lol
plush mason
they do form temporary alliances when it suits them
queen laurel
yeah more often than not the tau can mostly diplomatically communicate with them
but eldar only care about the survival of their people
To the point that they don't think that other outside races can help them in that department
plush mason
the most the other races can be is catspaws and pawns to that end
queen laurel
yeah and if they're reasonable enough allies from time to time
but joining another and abandoning their own empire that's just not it
spare osprey
Fantastic
spare osprey
So it WOULD be a weirdboss
Hell yeah
Alr thx tryna come up with the backstory for my ork lad
queen laurel
Alr thx tryna come up with the backstory for my ork lad
no problem
median star
chat am i a hater for not liking chain weapons at all and kind of think theyre dumb
power weapons> chain weapons
queen laurel
chat am i a hater for not liking chain weapons at all and kind of think theyre d...
This is just my opinion but you're the first warhammer fan I've seen that doesn't like chain weapons to some degree
spring cairn
badass chainsaw that saw things at the molecular lvl vs lame glowing ahh stick
median star
chainfist are kind of cool but rest can munch it
median star
median star
is this real
median star
i had a german friend once he tried to join the army on a 6 year contract denied for being not smart enough sad
celest dome
Caterpillars, they are cute
spring cairn
i had a german friend once he tried to join the army on a 6 year contract denied...
not hate but how dumb do you have to be
median star
his experience as i knew consisted of warthunder and how to lay bricks and build walls
vagrant fox
the army rejected me for being too "based" and "cool" 😔
crystal forum
i had a german friend once he tried to join the army on a 6 year contract denied...
did he apply as an officer or something
median star
it was something to do with mechanical or engineering if i remember
crystal forum
you usually need a cerification to be in technical jobs in the army and they don't take anybody into the certification programs because it's a waste of money if they can't finish the courses
median star
he was just cooked all around tragic
crystal forum
by engineering do you mean like a sapper
median star
its been like 3 years but i think he said he wanted to work on either vehicles or machines
spring cairn
you usually need a cerification to be in technical jobs in the army and they don...
you need the very basics to get in
median star
he was also a proprietor of the wacky tobaccy may have been his issue if i had to guess but just didnt want to admit it
spring cairn
that's more like it, if they sniff that shit in your system when testing for it you're done
crystal forum
afaik in most countries if you already have a technical degree they'll beg for you to join on their knees
i checked it out for the canadian army and the pay is laughable compared to the private sector
spring cairn
the pay is very decent here but you don't enlist for that, it's for the very long list of perks you get alongside the pay
crystal forum
good healthcare and pension are good until your body becomes banged up to hell at just 40
plus i can only imagine what it must be like to be an actual mechanic working with army mechanics with smooth brains
glossy sonnet
i mean it has some things to do with EC
arctic talon
I totally understand this. I figured they just look down on them. But i thought ...
The Tau don't do long term alliances
Their whole thing is cultural assimilation and imperialism
and the Eldar would never put themselves below another race
storm jungle
40k is also like very bad with other factions teaming up since everyone is über-racist.
opaque coyote
Their whole thing is cultural assimilation and imperialism
Probably will be the least likely to shoot you though
opaque coyote
Especially in the short term
queen laurel
40k is also like *very* bad with other factions teaming up since everyone is übe...
yeah like aos and fantasy is basically the greatest examples of alliances in warhammer but even those have the usual
mess ups
storm jungle
Yeah those settings dont make it as difficult
queen laurel
Dwarves killing an entire village over a few coins type of mess up if you catch my drift
storm jungle
greek mushroom men
elves that hate everyone
robot mummys that also hate everyone
etc
lol
opaque coyote
>elves that hate everyone
But which flavor?
opaque coyote
The Nature Xenophobic ones
The High ones
Or the ones that want to commit CBT on themselves and you
storm jungle
Yes.
opaque coyote
Seriously where did Dark Elves come from.
Like some like Warhammer have them be like
Absolute degens
And some are just
Elves but with actual melanin
arctic talon
no
elves with melanin are normal elves and wood elves
dark elves lack melanin
they're called dark because they live in dark places
and are evil
🔪
queen laurel
dark elves lack melanin
how did dark elves become a thing in fantasy again
arctic talon
civil war
arctic talon
also I just got a mental flashbang why is tokyo ghoul in dead by daylight now
queen laurel
also I just got a mental flashbang why is tokyo ghoul in dead by daylight now
why would you get that type of mental flash
opaque coyote
Also back to 40k (painful I know)
But I genuinely kinda wish Exodites were more of a thing.
At the same time though... In a galaxy where even the craftworlders use tech
The fucking Amish elves kinda uh
arctic talon
why would you get that type of mental flash
idk because they chose the main character lmao
who kills like
storm jungle
Like some like Warhammer have them be like
Pretty much all the dark elves in warhammer are just evil elves like most form of media, its pretty basic 101
arctic talon
a single person
opaque coyote
Suck
opaque coyote
Pretty much all the dark elves in warhammer are just evil elves like most form o...
Was referring to media in general
arctic talon
and doesn't kill any humans until like way later and a weird mutation thing happens and they become flesh godzilla
arctic talon
Seriously where did Dark Elves come from.
also the answer is DnD
or Warhammer
unironically
storm jungle
DnD first
arctic talon
since Dark Elves for Tolkien
opaque coyote
I could've sworn at least some other fantasy worlds have dark elves refer to elves with melanin.
...and also some racist undertones since they're evil-
storm jungle
The trope of dark elves originally was inspired by uh
opaque coyote
since Dark Elves for Tolkien
Tolkien is based.
queen laurel
Pretty much all the dark elves in warhammer are just evil elves like most form o...
to be honest warhammer probably popularise the most basic fantasy traits of like the four races, humans don't excel at anything but are pretty good at living, elves think of themselves as higher than everyone because of magic and stuff, dwarves living in mountains and being master Craftsman, and orcs being green monsters that can challenge anything through brute strength
storm jungle
Melniboneans who are from Michael Moorcock which warhammer stole a ton of shit from
who all live in a massive island paradise being hedonistic twats
opaque coyote
Like even if you don't like Lord of the Rings. You can like him for his sheer enthusiasm of mythology tbh
storm jungle
they werent elves originally
but uhhh future media depicted them as fae-like
warhammer stole it from there and it spread
queen laurel
I think warhammer probably set up the foundations for like the basics of the four most popular fantasy races
storm jungle
its also why dark elves at one point in warhammer worshipped chaos
since its what Melniboneans also did
queen laurel
Arrogant elves stubborn dwarves warmongering orcs and tough humans
storm jungle
I think warhammer probably set up the foundations for like the basics of the fou...
Nah that was also DnD
opaque coyote
to be honest warhammer probably popularise the most basic fantasy traits of like...
A part of me kinda feels sad that the concept of Orks/Orcs basically being British Football Hooligans didn't catch on
storm jungle
then came LOTR movies which invented said tropes
queen laurel
Nah that was also DnD
true
storm jungle
since it had more wider media appeal
queen laurel
since it had more wider media appeal
of how the fantasy 4 is viewed
crystal forum
fantasy settings using the same races and themes for 70 years
queen laurel
the three of them definitely put down the foundations
storm jungle
fantasy settings using the same races and themes for 70 years
I mean
when they dont people get mad
so theres no reason to deviate
lol
DnD tried not making all orks savages and they got mad that it was "woke"
or whatever the fuck
queen laurel
DnD tried not making all orks savages and they got mad that it was "woke"
yeah that
opaque coyote
then came LOTR movies which invented said tropes
Loved the short scene that has a... person talk for Sauron.
The mouth being so filthy and disgusting due to him essentially relating Sauron's words
crystal forum
and everything original has to be "generic chimera beast-man race"
queen laurel
yeah why change it
crystal forum
i prefer sci fi because aliens can be weird
opaque coyote
Seriously though the concept of like
Somebody being so fucking evil that even relaying their words to other people rots your mouth is a sick concept
queen laurel
i prefer sci fi because aliens can be weird
But you like warhammer which is using the four fantasy races in a sci-fi setting
crystal forum
a real conundrum isn't it
queen laurel
a real conundrum isn't it
it's incredibly ironic yeah
opaque coyote
But you like warhammer which is using the four fantasy races in a sci-fi setting
Do the T'au count? Are they a parallel to anything in fantasy?
opaque coyote
>humanoid ahhh
Star Trek moment
storm jungle
Star Trek moment
to be fair star trek explains it
its mostly a budget thing which is a fair excuse
opaque coyote
I do like a lot of Star Wars background alien designs
storm jungle
most other media doesnt kinda have that since like
well
they arent from the fucking 60's
and a tv show
crystal forum
star trek also has tons of non humanoids but everybody ignores that for the joke
opaque coyote
its mostly a budget thing which is a fair excuse
A sci-fi Gacha game (please don't kill me) has the excuse by just having aliens
Not fucking exist.
And by that I mean most of them are like unintelligent animals
queen laurel
A sci-fi Gacha game (please don't kill me) has the excuse by just having aliens
...
Settings that do that really make me laugh
storm jungle
A sci-fi Gacha game (please don't kill me) has the excuse by just having aliens
...
gacha
opaque coyote
It's just that humanity, due to spreading around for so long, has evolved into different forms
storm jungle
die
opaque coyote
die
I'm used to it
Anyways, it doesn't help that essentially what could only be described as
Minor Chaos Gods began forming
And uh
Changing people into different, radical shapes
It's also really funny because there are two subspecies
The Foxians and the Borisin
queen laurel
>gacha
this the person that decided that the fictional pet that he would present to his class is a chaos spawn
opaque coyote
The Foxians are literally just
People with fox ears and a tail.
And the other are literally cannibalistic furries that constantly have a thirst for blood and constantly murder people
queen laurel
at this point you would do the world a service
arctic talon
DnD tried not making all orks savages and they got mad that it was "woke"
ignoring the fact it was already a thing before
as well lmao
opaque coyote
at this point you would do the world a service
Studying to be a computer engineer btw
arctic talon
even by DnD themselves
storm jungle
ignoring the fact it was already a thing before
Yeah but even Tolkien kinda proves the point saying he didnt want to make them a one-note race that is just evil.
arctic talon
they had like other non forgotten realms settings
arctic talon
Yeah but even Tolkien kinda proves the point saying he didnt want to make them a...
yeah
opaque coyote
Yeah but even Tolkien kinda proves the point saying he didnt want to make them a...
Again
Tolkien is based
storm jungle
Hes definitely smarter than most of us in this room thats for sure
crystal forum
he did a good job for a setting he created in a handful of books
opaque coyote
"Hm. What should I name a Hobbit family that is proud of their feet."
crystal forum
ye me joke
opaque coyote
"good job" is understatement of the century
He was like an extreme mythology buff as well
storm jungle
guy was homebrewing before homebrewing was even a thing
opaque coyote
I think he actually translated Beowulf
Like
The English translations we use in schools are translated by him
opaque coyote
but could he sell merchandise
mfw we still get shows and games of LoR
crystal forum
> mfw we still get shows and games of LoR
that's his estate
opaque coyote
gray umbra
If people are mad about orcs wait until they hear about good aligned tieflings
opaque coyote
Orcs in the Elder Scrolls are my favorite
Well
Second
I started learning about them due to meeting a random encounter in Skyrim
And it's still one of my favorites
Because you will literally be walking through a path and then an Orc literally starts a conversation
And he's like
"FINALLY A CHANCE TO FUCKING KILL MYSELF"
gray umbra
"Slay me in honorable combat"
opaque coyote
"Slay me in honorable combat"
Literally
arctic talon
If people are mad about orcs wait until they hear about good aligned tieflings
those have always existed tbf
lol
opaque coyote
It is so fucking funny to me
crystal forum
kobolds are good for satisfying my needs
opaque coyote
Like for all he knew. The dragonborn was literally just
gray umbra
those have always existed tbf
Yeah just think its funny theres some outrage about orcs
opaque coyote
Walking to get to the nearest town
And then
"PLEASE FUCKING KILL ME."
I obliged of course.
Orc armor in Skyrim looks fucking sick btw
crystal forum
Yeah just think its funny theres some outrage about orcs
i want to find the anti ork crowd in the 40k community
opaque coyote
i want to find the anti ork crowd in the 40k community
No such thing
spring cairn
kobolds are good for satisfying my needs
opaque coyote
At most you're neutral to Orks
You can hate the Ork fanbase
But you can never hate Orks
Also I like Goblins
Idk why I think they're neat
Silly little guys that are looking to stab me
vagrant fox
**"FINALLY A CHANCE TO FUCKING KILL MYSELF"**
It's also how finding Umbra in Morrowind turns out. He's just some sadass orc in the middle of nowhere that wants to die a warriors death
opaque coyote
It's also how finding Umbra in Morrowind turns out. He's just some sadass orc in...
The Orcs* literally are just the Dwarf Slayers
Accidentally forgot the furbishing of the table?
KILL YOURSELF.
I have no idea exactly why I find that funny as shit but I do
green loom
arctic talon
Real
plush mason
he has always been shown as such afaik
shadow plover
replica 
crystal forum
oh right i dont think worshipers get to see him in person
crystal forum
i was mislead by the cables
plush mason
its only natural the cult shows the emperor as vastly larger than anyone else
crystal forum
can you imagine if he actually was that big in life, hiding in the Himalayas
shadow plover
The Emperor circa M3
plush mason
i know the event that depicts
the giant was reported to have blue skin or blue paint covering its skin
crystal forum
giant tau
plush mason
yeah its a wild story
crystal forum
it's just another giant myth with tacked on army stuff
misty vector
Funny to think of the emperor trying to blend in regular humans for so long
crystal forum
he was hiding away like a bitch waiting for the moment he could take full control of humanity
full on waiting for the age of strife in his redditor cave
misty vector
Thats not very heroic
storm jungle
He was pulling that classic dicktator move, classic
celest dome
Probably wasn't his first time trying to take power
storm jungle
Well we do know he was Alexander at least
which uh, knowing the man himself explains a lot
celest dome
Actually, yes it wasn't
storm jungle
celest dome
Still wager that he say he was, but I don't buy it
storm jungle
Its added in by Abnett
he thought it sounded cool but it makes no sense
add it to the list lol
he also burnt down the Tower of Babbling
celest dome
Same way he is saying he invented the Bolter or what ever
storm jungle
yeah the bolter existed before he did, though that the book at least says
not that people know this in-universe tho lol
spring cairn
no, that would be Jhon Bolter
crystal forum
Well we do know he was Alexander at least
i like to believe he was just because he gave up too early
storm jungle
i like to believe he was just because he gave up too early
I mean theres nothing to believe, he was.
crystal forum
guy can't ever finish his projects
storm jungle
he just got bored and killed himself
spring cairn
crystal forum
he saw humanity conquer the stars and still didn't think it was good
storm jungle
What the fuck i thought it was like way later
spring cairn
he died of ligma
arctic talon
HE DIED AT 32????
Yes
crystal forum
his body is lost to time
storm jungle
ligma what-
celest dome
GW/BL wouldn't have the balls, but I bet he was involved with the Nazi
storm jungle
his body is lost to time
It probably got dunked in a river
spring cairn
ligma what-
crystal forum
It probably got dunked in a river
or emperor ran away
arctic talon
GW/BL wouldn't have the balls, but I bet he was involved with the Nazi
Prolly not considering he doesn’t give a shit about race
Lol
If anything facist Italy
Is more likely
celest dome
fair
storm jungle
GW/BL wouldn't have the balls, but I bet he was involved with the Nazi
The Emperor is the type to be like
"Adolf had great ambition but had to waste it on racism."
arctic talon
Or Spain
crystal forum
he was probably pissed that nazis liked the occult
arctic talon
💀
storm jungle
yeah like i said
arctic talon
he was probably pissed that nazis liked the occult
Fuck they’re going to find out about the warp
storm jungle
hes the type to say wild shit like that
like writers write the emperor as way too sane
or well "normal"
storm jungle
if he was real he'd be someone like the Immortal in that one dimension
crystal forum
then he does the wildest shit
storm jungle
you get what I mean lol
arctic talon
He just outwardly projects normality
arctic talon
if he was real he'd be someone like the Immortal in that one dimension
Tbf that wasn’t ||immortals fault||
celest dome
Oh we might get news of Hotline Miami 3, that'd be nice
crystal forum
the good old psyker excuse for inconsistent character traits
storm jungle
Tbf that wasn’t ||immortals fault||
yeet
arctic talon
||its robots|| big spoilers
storm jungle
Well
arctic talon
In the comics at least
storm jungle
Robot had the right idea too
storm jungle
"Im gonna make an army of gene-gorillas and call them space marines"
bruh just make an army of robots
smh
arctic talon
LOL
arctic talon
Yes
gray umbra
Gene gorillas are the best approach
arctic talon
Rex is dead
spring cairn
bruh just make an army of robots
yeah but ironmen or something
storm jungle
Yeah hes dead-dead
storm jungle
yeah but ironmen or something
true true
arctic talon
He blew his entire body up
crystal forum
i said spoiler it 😭
storm jungle
LOL
arctic talon
Bruh
gray umbra
Rex died again?
arctic talon
Fucks sake
storm jungle
Again?
arctic talon
💀
storm jungle
King Lizard rise up
crystal forum
the fact that the blackiverse guy survived having his brain splattered made me never trust any death
arctic talon
That’s HIS NAME
polar hedge
and i thought this was a 40k lore chat
storm jungle
I mean
arctic talon
Smh
storm jungle
Invincible is kinda 40k
arctic talon
We can go back to 40K lore
arctic talon
storm jungle
Extreme luck
like
theres people IRL
that survived shit like that
its extremely again rare tho
crystal forum
his skull was mush
storm jungle
I mean no
arctic talon
What did GW mean by this
storm jungle
it was just a bullet wound
arctic talon
No
crystal forum
dilara
storm jungle
shut the fuck up!!!
polar hedge
give me my tech jacket
storm jungle
give me my tech jacket
let them cook, we'll get him...
crystal forum
He’s talking about ~~Yakub~~ angstrom
holy shit now i wont be unable to unsee that
storm jungle
He’s talking about ~~Yakub~~ angstrom
LMFAO
oh for angstrom
angstrom lierally just
hired not-haemonculi
storm jungle
also that
crystal forum
he had the senses to portal
storm jungle
hes the greatest warrior of yakub
crystal forum
while he looked like beef stew
arctic talon
But seriously what did GW mean with the silver knight of slaanesh thing
storm jungle
what kind of shit the human body can survive lol
storm jungle
But seriously what did GW mean with the silver knight of slaanesh thing
Did they update it?
arctic talon
No
crystal forum
why bring up that old story
crystal forum
Okay so he wants to fuck the teenager
do you have the actual excerpt