Malice is just tiny
#40k-lore-chat
arctic talon
queen laurel
Well at least he is still around
I just hope to the workshop gods that he might show up on a completely new story
arctic talon
The raptor god is the most mysterious of the minor chaos gods
Mostly since they’ve never had a proper appearance
Beyond “we know they exist and they give blessings”
queen laurel
The raptor god is the most mysterious of the minor chaos gods
Oh yeah that one so forgotten i have no idea it existed until you just reminded me right now
The marines that guy usually blesses use like
The chaos jetpacks right
dusk patrol
They’re hippity hoppity
queen laurel
Raptor cults are exclusively made up of marines with jumppacks
And their only exclusively jump pack chaos marines
Well this just makes me more confused
A god that particularly likes chaos marines with jump packs
keen nova
Eyo, are there any real celtic like factions other than the eldar?
keen nova
Naming convention? Aesthetic? Anything
Anything
arctic talon
For the imperium there’s the Storm Wardens for marines and Drookian Fenguard
I can’t think of anything for Tau or Chaos
keen nova
I can’t think of anything for Tau or Chaos
I know T'au are more Chinese/Japanese.
arctic talon
Tau are like
keen nova
Chaos are Anarchist and satanic Sunday school teachers
dusk patrol
Tau are weeb NATO
arctic talon
But I can only think of those 2 for like
Explicitly Irish/celtic inspired stuff for the imperium
dusk patrol
Tanith and Iron Hands have some Scottish elements
vagrant fox
The Emperors Spears have broad, vague celtic influences
keen nova
Tau are weeb NATO
I like em, just want something celtic other than the eldar who are also mixed with Egyptian, Mediterranean and some Asian esc stuff
keen nova
The Emperors Spears have broad, vague celtic influences
Oh?
dusk patrol
Emperors Spears
spring cairn
Are they naked with blue body paint ?
keen nova
Tau are weeb NATO
Also this is funny to me considering the old hammer Desperation to find an insult for them
vagrant fox
Their homeworld is called Nemeton, which is some sacred celtic space or something iirc
dusk patrol
spring cairn
not Celtic enough ngl
keen nova
Seems more Norse to me
I've been baited and switched, It's like helllade all over again
spring cairn
spaces wolves literally turn into werewolves you can do better than this
dusk patrol
It’s a little of both, if you read their book they’re blatantly Celtic though
Generally most of these things aren’t just one thing though
keen nova
Also this is funny to me considering the old hammer Desperation to find an insul...
In case anyone to ask I was referring to the communist accusation, And I know how that started a war between them and the eldar Fandom...
dusk patrol
Storm Wardens are definitely very Celtic though
keen nova
Generally most of these things aren’t just one thing though
Perhaps 80s britain wasn't typical in the celts...
vagrant fox
Emperors Spears have collectivized specialists like chaplains, apothecarie and the rest into just druids
I shudder
dusk patrol
vagrant fox
the runes for the spears are also called ogham runes in 40k, same as the early irish thing
dusk patrol
Yeah
They’re blatantly Celtic
Idk if you need them to have kilts and a bagpipe and be drinking to complete the look but
Leprechaun chapter symbol
vagrant fox
There's a lot of overlap with viking/celtic stuff, as they had a lot of contact irl
keen nova
Wait, tainth first and only, they count?
keen nova
Yes I said them
Well, I work for big dyslexia you see...
keen nova
I totally forgot about these guys.
dusk patrol
sacred bluff
mkill
dusk patrol
And they even get hot ganger GFs from other worlds
vagrant fox
I guess there's also Tangar Woad Warriors, they have one line of lore or something though
dusk patrol
keen nova
I'd prefer Irish imagery but hey this is fine!
dusk patrol
I'd prefer Irish imagery but hey this is fine!
Well that guy isn’t space Scottish or Irish so it works out
He’s from a different planet
keen nova
Can always make your own at the end of the day
I am no artist, with words or a brush. I can shit post tho..
arctic talon
Well
The secret ingredient is theft for writing/hj
don't actually plagerize but taking inspiration
always is good lol
raven stone
@storm jungle I was trying to find the right thing to represent a Combi Weapon in 40k 10th edition rules, and my head suddenly landed on the funniest idea…
…using a Stub Cannon bit instead.
(Because the 10th edition profile absolutely suck at representing any existing combinations…)
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> I was trying to find the right thing to represent a Combi ...
Hey when the official material doesn’t provide nothing stops you from improvising
sly ivy
I come back here & it’s filled w ghosts
celest dome
We know we're all dead inside
vagrant fox
sunday do nothing day
median star
are assault cannons also shooting bolts or they technically stubbers
dusk patrol
are assault cannons also shooting bolts or they technically stubbers
Its basically a lower caliber autocannon
So sorta in between, but yeah not a bolter.
basically just
Thats why terminators use them
storm jungle
Must. Not. Start. New army
Centipede gang rise up
rose thorn
I didn’t get ash waste because they only had 2 bugs but now with 3….
sharp pollen
i guess we'll never get series/animation representation of anything except ultramarines and cadians
i want some Necromunda stuff in Edgerunners style
rose thorn
Actually they have 5 bugs now
rose thorn
i want some Necromunda stuff in Edgerunners style
It would be so good
dusk patrol
At least four
shell mason
No I mean
dusk patrol
It’s ongoing, it’s during Indomitus
Not exactly clear when
They may have mentioned by now
But yeah, it’s during the “current era”
dusk patrol
Unclear
Each mission is done once
Some maybe repeated
Some missions are a little more story driven than others especially more recently
shell mason
right
shell mason
I thinking it's only been a few weeks since the rejects got out of prison
storm jungle
I thinking it's only been a few weeks since the rejects got out of prison
Its been way more
2 years or so at best, one of the shorts FS released mentions it along with Zola and Rannick mentiong months have passed between other ops.
There’s way too many events happening for it to have been just a “few” weeks 
shell mason
2 years or so at best, one of the shorts FS released mentions it along with Zola...
So the rejects have been on the morning star for two years?
sacred bluff
"Do you even know how pickles become pickles" - my friend
"Yea, by cucumbering vinegar 
" - me
storm jungle
So the rejects have been on the morning star for two years?
Yes.
shell mason
Thank you my foreign friend
storm jungle
👍
shell mason
that's all I needed
sacred bluff
Speaking of rejects
Is last chancers like the first book of ciaphas cain, with the party of sentenced to death prisoners element
dusk patrol
No
It’s a separate series
Oh wait nvm
I misread
Yes, it’s a dirty dozen kinda deal
Penal world, wacky cast
They go on a wacky mission
sacred bluff
storm jungle
Suicide Squad but stereotyped cast kind of thing. The books are so and so but youll prob like it
sacred bluff
storm jungle
Their most “recent” book was a few years ago but its like two decades old as a series
One of the better ones too ironically lol
sacred bluff
Wacky books in this setting definitely hit
storm jungle
If you like Cain then you’ll like these
dusk patrol
Who keeps letting bro cook
At least it'll be fun in between the parts where I have to watch a listers talk gibberish at eachother.
tough haven
Who keeps letting bro cook
They just dont stop him from coding while on meth
young pecan
2 years or so at best, one of the shorts FS released mentions it along with Zola...
What shorts?? Didn't know they had those for DT
median star
storm jungle
What shorts?? Didn't know they had those for DT
Its largely throwaway Short stories you can find on the DT webpage written by minor GW authors
storm jungle
💀💀💀
young pecan
Damn GW got minors writing stories now
Reminds me
In TWH3 I was playing a dwarf save
Load into a battle and click one of the pickaxe dwarves to position them
"MINERS" (cheering)
dusk patrol
dapper gyro
They just dont stop him from coding while on meth
And yet, his games are still decent while not trend chasing. Pretty sure that he is on something stronger than meth now.
arctic talon
He’s on multiple
vagrant fox
never stop kojima from cooking
young pecan
Does being emotionally intelligent make you any more resistant to the warp?
My current understanding makes it seem like being more brainwashed makes you more resistant to it despite the fact that brainwashed people are by and large much easier to manipulate
arctic talon
Does being emotionally intelligent make you any more resistant to the warp?
Yes
also tbf the indoctrination against the warp is of questionable use
being resistant to the warp vs swallowing imperial propaganda are 2 dif things
young pecan
Fair enough
arctic talon
In any case avoiding warp taint entirely is the best way to avoid corruption
young pecan
I guess ||Eisenhorn just doesn't communicate that virtue very well, at least as far into the book as I've gotten and with my interpretation of the events so far||
young pecan
I'm glad in canon that being a more organized person instead of swallowing the blind faith pill helps you resist the taint
Because I feel like it just makes more sense
crystal stream
Any Abnett fans that can tell me if I’ve gotten the years somewhat correct?
- Horus Heresy: 30 000
- Eisenhorn: 40 249 - 390
- Ravenor / Bequin: 40 400 - 500 ?
- Gaunt’s Ghosts: 40 755 - 791
- ”Present” year / Darktide: 40 999 ~ 41 100
young pecan
If you're in charge of your thoughts and rationale you should in fact be more resistant to outside influences
proven needle
If you're in charge of your thoughts and rationale you should in fact be more re...
Titus is shown as very chaos resistant due to his hatred. I wouldn't take him for very emotionally intelligent.
But I guess he is determined in his ways.
raven stone
I'm glad in canon that being a more organized person instead of swallowing the b...
The irony of the 40k era Imperial Creed is that it doesn’t do what real world established religions tends to do: provide, albeit wrapped in mythological language, a philosophical outlook on life (which then helps deal with emotion)
I personally interpret GW’s stance on the Imperial Truth (of the Great Crusade era when Emps tried to end religion) is actually a very, very quiet jab at the uniquely American take on Atheism.
green loom
Titus is shown as very chaos resistant due to his hatred. I wouldn't take him fo...
If it was just hatred 99.999999999% of imperials would be near immune
It's some BS about le epic willpower so he seems more unique than factory line shooter protagonist 58
raven stone
If you're in charge of your thoughts and rationale you should in fact be more re...
Although having initially agreed with you, I must then add the following…
In 40k, if you are in control of your emotions in general, and you are situated far, far away from any warp energy or occurrences, yes, you do resist Chaos better.
But Throne help you if you are in physical proximity to Warp energy or sorcery attacks (or similar conduits like tainted text or symbols). In THIS case, Chaos is likely to just “brute force hack” your brain anyways.
green loom
If you're in charge of your thoughts and rationale you should in fact be more re...
Your ball of grey matter is fallible even when you're an in control "stoic"
Chaos doesn't get followers by being honest
raven stone
“Stoic” control only works against Chaos appealing to you softly, basically.
Otherwise they just expose you to raw power of the warp to drive you mad.
The latter is why the Inquisition is so paranoid.
Anything can become a brute force brain hack tool once tainted by Chaos or Warp.
Paintings, textbooks, tools, symbols, (scrap)code…
median star
so did they have a plan if they accidentally just straight up killed horus and couldn't bring him back after the anthrax dagger or whatever the fuck it was called
raven stone
so did they have a plan if they accidentally just straight up killed horus and c...
Presumably the Chaos gods would have directed Lorgar or Erebus to do something else then.
Probably in response to whoever is next in line to be Warmaster.
young pecan
Titus is shown as very chaos resistant due to his hatred. I wouldn't take him fo...
He seems very emotionally regulated in the second game
I dunno about first game but he is definitely shown to be contemplative and uses tactics that "defy muh codex", but are still good-natured
young pecan
Your ball of grey matter is fallible even when you're an in control "stoic"
Of course you can still be manipulated if you're in control, but it would only make sense for it to be harder
But the "soft" vs. "brute force" manipulation explanation makes sense to a degree
Forcing someone to witness things beyond comprehension is definitely a good way to make them falter
young pecan
The irony of the 40k era Imperial Creed is that it doesn’t do what real world es...
I can see how you get to that point, it's definitely at the very least a case of good intentions gone about in the wrong way
opaque coyote
I'm glad in canon that being a more organized person instead of swallowing the b...
Tbf the latter also helps since the Warp is basically powered by emotions and beliefs
There literally exists a woman who was so fucking delusional and so self believing
That she ATE two Slaaneshi greater Daemons while she was still human
The third time she wanted to get a snack, Slaanesh just decided to skip to the inevitable and made her a Daemon Prince(ss)
green loom
Also wait a minute
opaque coyote
Mf was like
"Mmmm that keeper of secrets tasted great. I want another one."
green loom
Blind faith does make you more resistant 
proven needle
He seems very emotionally regulated in the second game
We understand different things by emotional intelligence it seems.
opaque coyote
Blind faith does make you more resistant <:smilecat:942293327397662740>
Again it's more in terms of like
Belief in general tbh
/delusion
green loom
Willpower
green loom
Which faith can be a cheap buy in to
green loom
More like unlikely
opaque coyote
Also it is funny
To imagine like
A Daemon trying to tempt someone
And the dude's like
green loom
I doubt factory worlder James seeing 90 people die on his line every week sitting in his 2 inch room is going to be very stable of mind
opaque coyote
"Nah. I'm going to therapy and I really don't want to impede my progress."
opaque coyote
I doubt factory worlder James seeing 90 people die on his line every week sittin...
Tbf I think that's partially why Daemons can easily corrupt
Because people are in such a shit state of mind
green loom
I mean it isn't partially, it just is
opaque coyote
Basically if you're working 18 hours shifts everyday, watching a child lose his limb to the ball crusher machine(tm)
green loom
There's a boot on your neck, and another boot comes over and tells you it'll let you kick the one crushing your spine
opaque coyote
You might just say
"YOU MEAN that if I make a deal with you... I can kill my boss? Fuck yeah!"
raven stone
The really weird thing with Chaos, then, is either you are an extreme stoic, or just be 200%, sister of battle levels of devoted to the Emperor.
Anything else on between cannot do you much good.
Which, sadly, is where most of humanity is.
green loom
I mean in between would ideally not be in a position to be tempted
However anything in between is busy being brutally enslaved by the other two
opaque coyote
If you're comfortable, love your family, etc. You generally will be less tempted by the warp entity telling you to eat babies
raven stone
But sadly we go back to the brute force aspect
opaque coyote
Unfortunately for 90% of the human population, babies probably taste better than the shit they eat
raven stone
Assuming that is an option for Chaos, admittedly.
opaque coyote
(literally in some cases)
raven stone
And of course, now that I mention it
The “brute force” capabilities of Chaos may also make Imperial authorities callous
Why bother to do good work, after all
If Chaos can just brainwash people into evil anyways?
(Granted we know this is a horrible thing, but the concept of “don’t bother” is…alarmingly common in humanity)
young pecan
I doubt factory worlder James seeing 90 people die on his line every week sittin...
Which is kind of exactly why the Imperium has such a pain in the ass of a time trying to fight chaos LMAO
Thus why the brainwashing is a cheap stand-in to emotional integrity
Still works a little
dapper gyro
To keep it simple, it as the more will power you have, the more you can resist the warp.
green loom
I mean they do brainwash people
That's what more or less imperial culture is based on, brainwashing the masses into lockstep
dapper gyro
Having something that's not chaos to believe in fix a lot of the will power issue for many people.
young pecan
Yeah
If everyone's quality of life wasn't utter dogshit then chaos would be a lot rarer
dapper gyro
To prove your will power through trials is a more wasteful and brutal way to do it.
young pecan
Idk if the Silver Knight is canon but I thought it was really neat that there was someone who made it to the end of Slaanesh's domain and just barely faltered in time to not attack him
That was one of the first stories I heard of 40k before I got more into its media
arctic talon
Silver knight is canon yeah
young pecan
Wasn't it something about grieving for his wife or something, some temptation about being with her again that made him falter?
My friend told me the story and afaIk marines don't really get married to people so I'm thinking slight misinformation
arctic talon
Wasn't it something about grieving for his wife or something, some temptation ab...
That’s the whfb version.
The 40K version has them see a child/young man
Take that how you will
young pecan
That’s the whfb version.
The 40K version has them see a child/young man
Man...
I don't like this story anymore 
green loom
Like many Nazis, the femboy was simply too powerful for him
arctic talon
Like many Nazis, the femboy was simply too powerful for him
💀
Tbh
We don’t even know if the silver knight
Is from the imperium
Fucks sake for all we know it could be some xenos species that’s long extinct
green loom
I'm saying this under the assumption it's a grey knight, which he probably isn't, but it's needed for the Nazi joke so
arctic talon
The ambiguity is a lot stronger for 40K
But yeah the best assumption is GK
Because blade with runes + silver armor + knight lol
green loom
Don't forget he actually makes it that far
arctic talon
Tbf
Being built better allows it
He’s not the only known person to make it to the center
He’s just the one who wanted to go bash slaanesh’s head in with a sword
green loom
I feel like that lends it more credence than not seeing as he got there without falling first
Anyway fighting something that powerful on its own terms on home turf? Probably wasn't gonna work out
arctic talon
In any case I do wonder what the center of the palace is like
Like wtf do the people who made it there do in it
They don’t get killed
green loom
Eh, whatever we get will probably be pretty underwhelming
dapper gyro
However, it is kind of odd. Aside from a very few grey knight characters, they don't wander alone like that.
hallow saddle
i dont think its a grey knight
mostly for copium reasons
but also its just an apochypal story and yeah who says its even someone from the last 10k years?
like if it's a grey knight, they've already gone completely mental by setting off on their own to try and kill slaanesh
i'd buy it more if it was some inquisitor character thats doing it
dusk patrol
arctic talon
languid meadow
I love moon knight edits so much
and it's funny since he has legit comic moments that are funnier
jade holly
and it's funny since he has legit comic moments that are funnier
The problem is idk which ones are real and which are edited lmao
dusk patrol
dusk patrol
The problem is idk which ones are real and which are edited lmao
That’s the best part, half the time the silliest ones are
dusk patrol
I’m pretty sure this one is real
These are all real.
It’s not totally out of character for him
arctic talon
opaque coyote
Because blade with runes + silver armor + knight lol
Tbh I always like the idea that it isn't a GK or anything we actually know about
It's just some dude with silver armor looking to stab Slaanesh
Unknown if he's human, some Xenos, etc.
vagrant fox
it was hatsune miku as far as I'm concerned
winter vessel
https://tenor.com/view/kick-ass-gif-15582135
Man, I can feel the tailbone practically be dislocated when looking at this
opaque coyote
I meant the lore.
There is the theory that Kaldor Draigo is the Grey Knight.
That would be both lame and interesting at the same time
Lame because
Sphess Marine glazing #38482919
Interesting because they could write it as happening both in 40k and in the past
Because warp timey-wimey bullshit
dapper gyro
There is the theory that Kaldor Draigo is the Grey Knight.
That would be both l...
Dude, I was joking around.
dusky scroll
How much of a threat do other factions find the Imperium to be?
What do they think of Imperium? A threat that needs to be dealt with ASAP? Just something to keep an eye on? An annoying pest? A laughingstock?
arctic talon
It’s easier to name who doesn’t consider them an existential threat or a massive issue that needs to be dealt with
Necrons, Drukhari, Nids(???)
sacred ginkgo
Humans are just food to drukhari and nids
dusky scroll
Necrons, Drukhari, Nids(???)
This list don't include orc and chaos?
arctic talon
Mortal and space marine chaos followers consider the imperium a big issue
Orks are N/A regarding assessment of factions
dusky scroll
Mortal and space marine chaos followers consider the imperium a big issue
But not the demons/gods themselves?
odd palm
The only time the imperium is a big issue or existential threat for the Orks is when they don’t get a good fight
queen laurel
Orks are N/A regarding assessment of factions
only Eldar and Dark eldar really tick them off
arctic talon
But not the demons/gods themselves?
Unclear
The emperor was one
The emperor is also a corpse
queen laurel
As their entire battle philosophy of being not fighting but dismantling you surgically isn't something they like dealing
arctic talon
So I’d say no they don’t consider the imperium in its current state a threat
If anything
It’s a perfect feeding ground
queen laurel
orks at least get cool guns if they beat Tau
you can't use spiky scrawny or eldar tech most of the time
dusky scroll
The emperor is also a corpse
I was watching a Isyander Koda video yesterday. He said something like- after the rift was opened, Emperor started growing stronger and stronger because everything warp relevant in the galaxy got buffed.
queen laurel
If anything
oh yeah wolf
is like
skaven and Tzeentch the only ones capable of threatening khadron cities
skaven because they have the technology to do so and the Bluebird because he likes flying a lot
a good chunk of the factions are like heavily grounded
dusk patrol
I think anyone can threaten them if they can find a postman
But attack them, that’s a different story
queen laurel
I think anyone can threaten them if they can find a postman
i mean assembling an attack force that can threaten their sky settlements
only Skaven and Tzeentch really have the ability to do this
dusk patrol
Being less silly, it’s not like there’s no way for these factions to fly up
There’s airships and other means
queen laurel
Being less silly, it’s not like there’s no way for these factions to fly up
yeah but like a consistent attack force
queen laurel
that only really belongs to
the skaven and Tzeentch
The other factions would struggle a bit
dusk patrol
Also getting an army there is about a tenth of the battle
I have to look it up, I swear they talk about what they get harassed by
queen laurel
Also getting an army there is about a tenth of the battle
Yeah that's why the blue bird and the rats have it easier they have portals and literally a lot of flying disk and monsters
dusk patrol
Chaos is definitely one
Lots of factions find the Aether Gold or whatever it’s called useful
queen laurel
stormcast have access to lightning so I definitely think they can get there just gonna struggle getting their footing without air support of their Dragons
But that's like basically it
dusk patrol
And harvesting it attracts beasts and stuff too
There’s a reason all of their ships and harvesting cities and stuff are fortresses
Basically as soon as they find a vein it’s a fight it seems
queen laurel
There’s a reason all of their ships and harvesting cities and stuff are fortress...
Yeah the only thing that can really match their fighting force on air to air combat is like again the Bluebirds and the scaven
queen laurel
the rats build their own rickety flying machines
tzeentch has access to magic and flying things a lot because he's that guy
opaque coyote
only Eldar and Dark eldar really tick them off
Wouldn't T'au tick them off more?
queen laurel
Wouldn't T'au tick them off more?
no
opaque coyote
Or is it due to the fact that the Orks encounter them less than the Eldar
queen laurel
like at least you can see where they are
and when you kill them you can actually use their weapons
Eldar Tech and Dark eldar tech on the one hand cannot be easily utilised
and their tactics of hit and run
and fighting on their words dirty is not enjoyable
dapper gyro
Ork vs Necron is sad
dusk patrol
Oh yeah Grots
opaque coyote
Oh yeah makes sense.
Thought that the T'au would infuriate them more because they're focused on range.
Basically equivalent to trying to fight a camper
queen laurel
orks can match the firepower of the Tau less accurate
queen laurel
but more than makes up for the amount of explosions it causes
dusk patrol
Mountain Grots basically
opaque coyote
and when you kill them you can actually use their weapons
Tbh that's probably why honestly.
Can't use their shit at all, unlike every other faction.
Although wouldn't they be able to use Deldar guns?
queen laurel
Have airships and stuff
Grotbag Scuttlers yeah but they need the support of the other gits to really succeed
opaque coyote
Then again Hit and Run is probably tiring to them
"OI COME BACK SO WE CAN KRUMP YA"
queen laurel
very few things are more advanced than the airships of Khadron
queen laurel
Then again Hit and Run is probably tiring to them
yeah this is the same reason why they literally devolved from the war in heaven in the first place
Eldar fighting them not the fun way
dusk patrol
Yeah, the Aetherstreams are where it gets spicy
opaque coyote
Eldar fighting them not the fun way
This might sound like a stupid question.
Actually it definitely is but fuck it.
Do Orks care about pain
dusk patrol
Not as much as everyone else
queen laurel
This might sound like a stupid question.
Actually it definitely is but fuck it....
uh no
opaque coyote
Like do they care if you torture them or will they just laugh like it's a thrill
opaque coyote
So the Deldar weapons focused on pain effect them less?
Or do they still stop and roll around in agony
queen laurel
Like do they care if you torture them or will they just laugh like it's a thrill
Oh you can make them feel the pain yes but more often than not it is less effective than starving them of fighting
dusk patrol
No Drukhari weapons work on everyone
queen laurel
So the Deldar weapons focused on pain effect them less?
it works on them
dusk patrol
They can make Necrons feel pain
queen laurel
yeah that
opaque coyote
They can make Necrons feel pain
How the fuck
dusk patrol
And cripple marine and Custodes with pain
opaque coyote
dusk patrol
How the fuck
Space magic
opaque coyote
Space magic
The random guardsman seeing the soulless quiet Necron they were just fighting suddenly collapse while screaming in agony:
dusk patrol
Well I doubt that’s his concern at the moment tbh
queen laurel
Necrons even the lowly ones still have consciousness
dusk patrol
If he’s in a firefight with Drukhari and Necrons
queen laurel
It's just that for them to fully function like an individual they need really high quality bodies
and warriors are only adequate at nothing else than keeping the consciousness there but not letting it be you know expressive
shadow plover
Deldar weapons activate the necron subject's dysphorakh thus giving them pain
my headcanon
dusk patrol
They actually just stab your balls
opaque coyote
and warriors are only adequate at nothing else than keeping the consciousness th...
So they're still conscious, just unable to interact with the world
or control themselves
dusk patrol
The pain is stored in the balls you see
shadow plover
I think my headcanon is better
queen laurel
So they're still conscious, just unable to interact with the world
yes
opaque coyote
yes
well that is horrifying
honestly just thought their consciousness was sleeping or smth
shadow plover
even the Necron nobles don't want to think about it and often dismiss the idea
dusk patrol
honestly just thought their consciousness was sleeping or smth
Rubric marines are the same, slightly aware but confused
Because Grimdark
opaque coyote
Rubric marines are the same, slightly aware but confused
yeah i saw an excerpt, the worst part is that it kinda reads like somebody undergoing dementia
which is fucked up
shadow plover
they became the lockers to be shoved into
dusk patrol
Returned to their natural state of being
opaque coyote
Morning.
Monday…
vagrant fox
Play Jimmy Buffet Come Monday
raven stone
https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-melancholy-monday-gif-27369506
Indeed
dapper gyro
https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-melancholy-monday-gif-27369506
It is so cold... Why do I have to wake up...
storm jungle
Hmmm misery.
sharp pollen
ohhh the miseryyyy
raven stone
Indeed.
Will miss lore chat shenanigans (not that I don't have Discord on my phone but obviously miss the convos we have here lol)
Well, my own fault for working for a US company 😅
shadow plover
lime stratus
Does space dwarf exist? Brock hasn't gotten clear answer.
lime stratus
he he he they look like tiny space marine.
gray umbra
Well, my own fault for working for a US company 😅
My existence is 4 days a week in. Very lame
crystal forum
he he he they look like tiny space marine.
they even have bolters the cheeky runts
gray umbra
They jacked up parking costs too so i cant even ride my bike in unless i want to hemmorhage money
shadow plover
That's an excellent model
storm jungle
Holy shit new space marine mini
raven stone
Woah
hallow plover
storm jungle
No wait my mistake the mini looks too good
queen laurel
No wait my mistake the mini looks too good
that's funny i will admit but some somewhere i heard someone die
raven stone
Looks like a lost Blood Angel Marine for…reasons
(Given it was IF that found Necromunda)
Astartes scale bolt weapons in Necromunda is gonna be funni
storm jungle
Yeah this guy is 100% a marine lol
I remember him from one of the codex illustrations
queen laurel
Yeah this guy is 100% a marine lol
yeah a gene seed is the finest source of creatine in the 40k verse
celest dome
Looks like a lost Blood Angel Marine for…reasons
(Given it was IF that found Nec...
Feel like an IF wouldn't make much sense as a Bounty Hunter, but as a Hanger On, that I'd like to see
storm jungle
A bounty hunter is anyone that just wants to kill people for money
It doesn’t really like
Have a limit
raven stone
I remember him from one of the codex illustrations
Wait hang on this guy was in a Codex art?
shadow plover
Necromunda rules book she probably meant
raven stone
Ah ok
celest dome
queen laurel
@storm jungle is he Holding a Las-lock
storm jungle
Wait hang on this guy was in a Codex art?
Yep.
celest dome
Necromunda: The Book of Ruin, pg. 117 - Uprising Campaign Events
storm jungle
Not sure
raven stone
Also tempted to have this guy as an Eversor stand in for my Inquisitor…
(Even if not fluffing it up as an actual Marine I could say the Inquisitor experimented/found/hired him…)
raven stone
<@166943308231344128> is he Holding a Las-lock
IIRC they do have archeotech las weapons, so even if not exactly called Las Locks could be that kind of weapon.
celest dome
<@166943308231344128> is he Holding a Las-lock
including heavy blasters and venom casters – though they are not above scavenging autoguns and stub guns from their prey. This Weapons and Upgrades set contains cosmetic upgrades and gear for your gang.*
Think it's meant to be a Venom Casters
storm jungle
Wait hang on this guy was in a Codex art?
A shit ton of Munda models come from codex illustrations of misc characters, its one of the best part of the setting compared to mainline 40k models
raven stone
A shit ton of Munda models come from codex illustrations of misc characters, its...
Temptation to use as Eversor stand in increased lol
queen laurel
> including heavy blasters and venom casters – though they are not above scaveng...
i see could totally see them
Running las-locks though
After all they are in the wasteland it is better than nothing
shadow plover
A shit ton of Munda models come from codex illustrations of misc characters, its...
do you mean this or is there more art of him besides
storm jungle
do you mean this or is there more art of him besides
Yeah thats him, obviously a lot more subdued lol
hexed orchid
Vandoth the Fallen
Has to be a former DA marine. 40k isn't exactly subtle with names
queen laurel
Yeah thats him, obviously a lot more subdued lol
imagine a Sump so disgusting it has its own spirit
necromunda go crazy
storm jungle
Vandoth *the Fallen*
Has to be a former DA marine. 40k isn't exactly subtle wit...
Die
hexed orchid
queen laurel
also Blood Angel confirmed
do Blood Angels get younger or more Youthful through drinking blood
shadow plover
funny how blood angels keep forgetting their own in underhives
don't think so, at least in general
it's him...
hexed orchid
do Blood Angels get younger or more Youthful through drinking blood
The oldest guy they have has been actively avoiding the stuff (Dante), so seems not
queen laurel
The oldest guy they have has been actively avoiding the stuff (Dante), so seems ...
Chapter Master Dante abstained from drinking blood for centuries, and he eventually developed wrinkled skin and white hair like on old man and likewise felt psychologically worn out. When Baal was attacked by Tyranids in 999.M41, Dante was too emotionally and physically exhausted to lead the defence, but then he drank the blood of one of his servants, killing the servant in the process, and he was rejuvenated both physically and mentally.
-Lex
it seems it does keep them rejuvenated at least
hexed orchid
queen laurel
So that's probably the reason that guy lives for so long
shadow plover
oh yeah now that you meantioned it I remember that scene from Devastation of Baal
but space marines in general live really long so I wouldn't put that as the thing that allows him to live so long, if something it might be a hinderance that he needs it to stay fit compared to other chapter's marines 
queen laurel
that's true
hexed orchid
But he did make it to this age without blood, at least for a significant amount of time. Though how much of that is raw skill, who knows. Seems they don't need it.
Maybe it's just like a good cup of coffee in the morning. I don't look too great without caffiene either
humble shoal
Blood angels should stop being such babies and just eat people
Noone would do anything
spare osprey
Vandoth *the Fallen*
Has to be a former DA marine. 40k isn't exactly subtle wit...
Will say
I may get him and convert him into a fallen
Cause he’s got some fantastic vibes
hexed orchid
Blood angels should stop being such babies and just eat people
You're saying people can be rashuns too?
green loom
Wtf
sharp pollen
NNNNNAURRRR
green loom
The april fools one is so goated though
Unironically wish they'd do more stuff like this
hallow saddle
That necro model is cookin
shadow plover
hallow saddle
Where does he get new full size bolter ammo 
shadow plover
Oh I'm sure Necromunda has it's sources
queen laurel
Where does he get new full size bolter ammo <:thonking:1099416458448097280>
Necromunda is famed for it's factories
and weapons
dusk patrol
Hey they finally did Vandoth
Now Dilara can enjoy one Space Marine model without shitting on it, nice to see
hallow saddle
Maybe he puts a robe on and pretends to be from the munitorum
Hi yes I am Clerk Biggus and I'm here to pick up the bolt ammo shipment
raven stone
I do wonder how he got separated from his Chapter
Maybe a massive fall down hive from mid or top levels…
dusk patrol
I do wonder how he got separated from his Chapter
“Today we speak of Brother Vandoth, and why we have the buddy system.”
crystal forum
why are inferno pistols blood angels specific
i thought melta tech wasn't hard to figure out
vagrant fox
Probably they're the only ones with librarian dreadnoughts, sharing is lame
crystal forum
Probably they're the only ones with librarian dreadnoughts, sharing is lame
that's weird
i didn't know that
every founding chapter needs its quirks
dusk patrol
why are inferno pistols blood angels specific
They’re not specific but they have the most
And probably because it fits their style best
But it’s not a unique weapon to them
They just have more than most chapters
crystal forum
They’re not specific but they have the most
is there a reason why astra militarum doesnt have any
dusk patrol
They probably do they’d they’d just be rare
They’re rare for space marines
It’s like asking why they don’t have grav pistols
There’s probably some rare examples but it’s not gonna be common
And marines benefit from infernus pistols a lot more
crystal forum
It’s like asking why they don’t have grav pistols
it's just melta though
dusk patrol
It’s a miniaturized melta
crystal forum
like there's no lore reason for plasma pistols to be more common
dusk patrol
For whatever reason that’s harder to do
It’s worth noting it doesn’t lack any of the actually effect of a normal melta
It’s just shorter range
queen laurel
For whatever reason that’s harder to do
This is probably the only pistol type weapon that is like harder to make than the base weapon in the imperium
crystal forum
what about hand flamers
dusk patrol
Hand flamers are more a SoB weapon
But once again there’s no reason a guard dude couldn’t use one, it’s not as uncommon
queen laurel
The only reason i can see why miniaturizing a melta is very much harder than normal is because making the reaction required for a melta to fire is a lot harder on a smaller thing
crystal forum
they're much less common than flamers and heavy flamers which the imperium pumps out by the billions
queen laurel
they're much less common than flamers and heavy flamers which the imperium pumps...
There's still not that hard really to make it's just that
dusk patrol
Because most people don’t need a pistol flamer
queen laurel
Why would you use a hand flammer when you can get an actual real flammer
opaque coyote
I just went into my speech class and my teacher is playing Rick Astley's never gonna give you up
I am in agony
crystal forum
Why would you use a hand flammer when you can get an actual real flammer
melee
queen laurel
melee
Yeah but like you can also use a pistol in that department to be even more effective in range
dusk patrol
Guard don’t melee the same way as everyone else
queen laurel
Yeah they don't have specialized melee squads
dusk patrol
SoB and Marines are much more effective at it
dusk patrol
Yeah they don't have specialized melee squads
They do
But it’s still not as prevalent
crystal forum
im trying to think of a melee non ogryn guard unit
queen laurel
They do
You mean like completely using only melee weapons and charging at the enemy?
Because besides ogryns i don't think they have one
crystal forum
well every lasgun is a stick with a bayonet i guess
queen laurel
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_Guard_Brawler
Well at least that's a good thing
But i don't think the survival rates for these guys would be very very high
crystal forum
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_Guard_Brawler
is this some long forgotten tabletop unit
opaque coyote
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_Guard_Brawler
And then they die via gunfire
crystal forum
guard fighting an ork with regular swords is ballsy as hell
opaque coyote
Honestly I fw this ngl
crystal forum
alright well at least they get chainswords
crystal forum
so he can stab himself before the enemy does
dusk patrol
Then there’s regiments like the Brontian Longknives
plush mason
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_Guard_Brawler
so these are the melee dudes we fight from the 6th
crystal forum
melee dudes are just heretic guard units
you can see them in the blooded kill team
opaque coyote
Then there’s regiments like the Brontian Longknives
Catachan vs Brontian doing a Knife Measuring contest
"Oi my knoife is longer than yours"
"PFFT. You call that a knife? You couldn't even slay a Devil with that. Now this is a knife!"
Krieger in the corner
"Don't worry, Bayonetta. You're just as good as them."
"...yes we will stab heretics in the throat soon. All for the Emperor's forgiveness."
rose thorn
About to block bell of lost souls from everything their articles are so trash
Is it a meme? Are people just calling him a space marine for fun?
Don’t show space marine fans a Goliath
The warhammer Reddit makes me wanna tear my hair out
storm jungle
Is it a meme? Are people just calling him a space marine for fun?
Hes a space marine
he has a blood angel dagger
arctic talon
Is it a meme? Are people just calling him a space marine for fun?
He’s a space marine
storm jungle
but very much like uh, a genetic reject
rose thorn
Wiay relaly?
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
He had the generic SM profile
rose thorn
Oh
arctic talon
In necromunda on launch
storm jungle
Hes an mini made from an illustration character from an earlier codex
vagrant fox
Unquenchable thirst for blood, long canine fangs, blood angels dagger
rose thorn
Sowwwyyyyyyy
arctic talon
He’s weird
He’s also like
On his own
His whole thing is he brutally murders and exanguinates heretics lol
rose thorn
I might have gotten him mixed up with the uh, cawdor guy
dapper gyro
Pseudo SM
arctic talon
Well
His new mini is pretty much confirming him as one
He’s got a BA knife sheeth
His art and old stat line + lore was a lot more ambiguous
rose thorn
my apologizes guys
storm jungle
Yeah this has a lot more details
arctic talon
Tbh he’s cool
storm jungle
<:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926> my apologizes guys
Your execution is tomorrow
rose thorn
Damn
arctic talon
He’s just part of the necromunda ecosystem
storm jungle
arctic talon
Lmao
vagrant fox
sentenced to 30 years fanon mines
arctic talon
And by eco system I mean he murders people in the underhive for money
Well “money”
He takes his payment in dead bodies and blood
rose thorn
Tbh I thought he was just demon possessed or something
dapper gyro
<:Guillotine:689290697693724775>
Bye bye Maggie's fingers
rose thorn
Yeha I saw that and thought the was just roid raging
arctic talon
Much more ambiguous
His new design is also cool
But it does just confirm what he is which
Sort of ruins the mystery
rose thorn
Yeah
arctic talon
But it’s funny that he’s just running around murdering stuff
rose thorn
Well now that we have space marines in necromudna maybe people will be okay a xenos gang :3
storm jungle
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/e/e0/Vandoth.png
his old design also like
makes him look deffo like a generic Cawdor
rose thorn
makes him look deffo like a generic Cawdor
Yeee
arctic talon
Well now that we have space marines in necromudna maybe people will be okay a xe...
Well he’s a space marine bounty hunter
dapper gyro
To be fair, SM started out as more sophisticated barbarian berserks. So this guy is just going back to its root.
arctic talon
A xenos bounty hunter would be cool
But a full gang is weird
I don’t want a gang of marines
That’s lame
Well I guess gsc exist
But they don’t count imo
rose thorn
Yeha I wouldn’t want a gang of xenos either besides gsc
But using a xenos KT as a peoxy should be fine
For the uhhhhhh
I forgot what the Bounty Hunter gang was called
VENATORS
arctic talon
Tbh he’s not even the weirdest bounty hunter
vagrant fox
Isn't there something about fish aliens deep in the ground, I forget
arctic talon
In munda lol
arctic talon
Isn't there something about fish aliens deep in the ground, I forget
Yeah
Giant fish squid aliens
crystal forum
squids or fish
rose thorn
I remember I made a list based off the eldar corsairs kt and some guys were really bitchy and rude about it
arctic talon
Too bad, eldritch monstrosity time
storm jungle
Isn't there something about fish aliens deep in the ground, I forget
Yeah they are the head of Delaque
the house name is literally their species name
PEAK CINEMA
rose thorn
I need to read the delaque book I’ve fallen in love with their models
arctic talon
Ngl
storm jungle
their book is extremely good
arctic talon
Delaque does not intrest me
storm jungle
shut up
storm jungle
LOL
vagrant fox
All I could remember was pisces, but they're apparently called pisceans
wildass servitors
rose thorn
wildass servitors
‘servator’
vagrant fox
warhammer remains peak
crystal forum
wildass servitors
i dont see any weakspots at all
rose thorn
LMAO
storm jungle
CINEMA.
crystal forum
definitely not the exposed brain
storm jungle
i dont see any weakspots at all
Okay man wearing helmet with exposed face
also they arent combat units
they fucking work in a underhive
lmao
crystal forum
Okay man wearing helmet with exposed face
it's a hat! 
rose thorn
I wish the water guys were allied with delaque instead of the uhhh
vagrant fox
Kind of a flex to have an exposed brain
storm jungle
it's a hat! <:AngryKitten:1217642253502124143>
arctic talon
I wish the water guys were allied with delaque instead of the uhhh
They’re unaligned
storm jungle
I wish the water guys were allied with delaque instead of the uhhh
Delaque's quatic theme is more of a cthulu nod
storm jungle
the water guild works for anyone that has that liquid
rose thorn
They’re unaligned
They ahve preferences, ie cawdor have better relationship with the promethium guild
You get to reroll all their relationship rolls
storm jungle
homeless people moment
rose thorn
Water guild does
arctic talon
I forgor
crystal forum
do they send the water gestapo if you find a bottle of H20
rose thorn
And delaque has iron guild
arctic talon
Making drugs needs water
arctic talon
do they send the water gestapo if you find a bottle of H20
No
They just forcibly suck the water out of your body
If you don’t make payments
crystal forum
sounds hot
storm jungle
LMAO
rose thorn
And delaque has iron guild
I read about this one, apparently like all the nobles are in delaque’s pocket
storm jungle
Yeah Delaque has like
storm jungle
their fingers in everything
green loom
Probably not just Delaque's
storm jungle
they are the espionage House
arctic talon
The nobles loves them
green loom
Are Delaque the weird worm god ones
storm jungle
Are Delaque the weird worm god ones
Ye
rose thorn
Yeah but delaque completely controls the gun making guild
storm jungle
but also remember their only allegiance is to themselves
everyone is a means to an end
even their high ranking to lowest ranking members lol
since they essentially serve jellyfish cthulu
green loom
Lore accuracy mfers when you look at the goofy shit on Necromunda
rose thorn
I love all of orlock’s alliances are to tax men and shit
storm jungle
Lore accuracy mfers when you look at the goofy shit on Necromunda
"Goofy cosmetic" mfers when this man walks in
also yeah out of everyone Orlock are like
the most "normal" lol
literally just industrial bikers
green loom
What's that robo worm again
green loom
ah here we go
You know for a while I thought the hand was just
Attached
To let them open doors and shit
rose thorn
pretty sure thats an orlock hand too
vagrant fox
I'll never forgive bugs for letting crane flies exist
arctic talon
"Goofy cosmetic" mfers when this man walks in
It’s peak
rose thorn
I'll never forgive bugs for letting crane flies exist
why? they are uber friendly and kill mosquitos
vagrant fox
they've harrassed me since I was a child with their erratic and weird movements
they'd also mass invade my room
and there weren't even any mosquitos where I lived what was the point
speaking of fish people, I forgot about the Barghesi. Look at this goofy fish feller
storm jungle
those arent Barghesi
every alien on that image is a random one made up for the artwork
Miguel confirmed it awhile back, 40k Community Moment
vagrant fox
zamn I was lied to
storm jungle
vagrant fox
It's still goofy, got a permanent gamer posture
storm jungle
Would be cool if they were made barghesi
no
let random aliens be random aliens
stop small'ifying my artwork!!!!
arctic talon
Die
storm jungle
AAA-
vagrant fox
maybe just one piece
raven stone
If anyone can confirm this…are the current Sister of Battle Boltgun bit bigger than the current Deathwatch Boltgun bit?
nocturne crest
Aren't they smaller?
Actually, I don't know or it doesn't matter because bolters come from different patterns.
lament shoal
If anyone can confirm this…are the current Sister of Battle Boltgun bit bigger t...
As far as ik the sororitas and the guard generally use the same pattern of bolters that have been scaled down and adjusted for regular human use. Astartes grade bolters are huge and a normal human would likely get their arm torn off from the sheer recoil if they tried to use one
vagrant fox
If anyone can confirm this…are the current Sister of Battle Boltgun bit bigger t...
The model bits?
plush mason
They just forcibly suck the water out of your body
Dune moment
ofc knowing 40k i image the guild doesnt kill the person before they start to harvest
arctic talon
Well
Neither they don’t kill you always
They want their money back + the water
If you can just pay them back it’s fine, if you can’t then they’ll suck water out till they get it back + some interest
storm jungle
Dune moment
ive seen another piece of media do it way better and in morbidly funnier fashion
plush mason
omg i was 1 old when this came out
storm jungle
LOL fun as hell movie
damn they cut the part where Mcdowell just rips it out and drinks it straight away
still though yeah basically what the Water Guild does
raven stone
The model bits?
Yes thanks
spare osprey
every alien on that image is a random one made up for the artwork
i need to make more xenos tbh
it's such a cool zone
lament shoal
why? they are uber friendly and kill mosquitos
They don't actually eat mosquitoes.
But bugs like dragonflies and damselflies do
rose thorn
Oh neat
dusky beacon
It would be really cool to see a story about a Gue'vesa Psyker
crystal forum
they'd get murdered by other tau
rocky gale
they'd get murdered by other tau
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/kill-it-kami-namek-dragon-balls-gif-11469918
me with this chat for real
dusky beacon
they'd get murdered by other tau
The T'au have a psychic auxiliary race already i don't think they have a problem with people being psykers
crystal forum
they have a problem with tau being psykers
ethereals want full control of every single tau
storm jungle
Jay cant read....
crystal forum
alright well guess it's lasgun to the mouth time of the week again for me
storm jungle
same
vagrant fox
not me, I'm always cool
storm jungle
rose thorn
crazy how none of the xenos KTs that are just a sprue combined with a preexisting kits got rules but all the imperium and space marine ones did
seems like this edition they arent doing that naymore tho
oh the phobos one
never mind
raven stone
GW realised if they did too many unique things it would, ironically, upset the balance of big 40k…so nowadays they know to take that into account I think.
rocky gale
Real dumb they didn't even make special rules for the Hand of the Archon team considering how small the Drukhari roster is
rose thorn
I WAS BAOUT TO SAY THAT
arctic talon
Hand of the archon is so weird
but it lines up
with none of the other upgrade sprue teams
getting rules
raven stone
And meanwhile Night Lords get their own little squad lol
raven stone
It’s like none of the other legions existed…
arctic talon
Its so weird lol
it doesn't matter at the end of the day
imo
They kind of just do whatever they want with killteam
rose thorn
the legionaries one was pretty revolutionary to how they play last i hard
arctic talon
and I like that
Legionaries one is like
Iconic
its one of the 3 iconic teams in terms of defining an entire archetypes playstyle
imo
Kommandos, Legionaries and Vet Guard
rose thorn
giving your basic infantry psykers for main game
arctic talon
oh on like 40k?
balefire tome is like
very w/e
it was decent in 9e but very pricy upgrade
rose thorn
ag
ah*
i swera to god there was more killteams
i think my brain just got rotted by the 5+ guard/guard equivelants
arctic talon
I mean
the teams are all diverse
gameplay wise imo
there's 33 killteams lol
sorry 36 apparently
wtf
raven stone
I think that is if you include the not buffed generic ones
For legacy models and such
raven stone
…they reached 36 honest number? Impressive, admittedly.
arctic talon
this isn't KT2e anymore
raven stone
RT repacked into Agents most likely
Gellerpox…either with Nurgle forces or getting the hammer.
rose thorn
what factions havent even gotten a KT yet?
arctic talon
Custodes, nids, GK, World Eaters, Daemons(unless you count gellarpox)
oh also deathwatch
raven stone
Wait hang on no GSC in 3E yet?
raven stone
Ah ok nids-nids don’t have KT, yea.
rose thorn
i will never not be pissed at gw for that
raven stone
Just ignore the table top gaming and collect them anyways.
Please your inner self.
raven stone
Like I will be doing with Agents.