#40k-lore-chat

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queen laurel
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it's like goats all over again

dusk patrol
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Tanks are always a big part but man

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Yeah

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He’s just way too focal

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Another reason why the switch to one tank was braindead

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But whatever

dapper gyro
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I played hots since 2015/2016.

queen laurel
queen laurel
dusk patrol
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His only “downside” is he can’t protect his team directly as well and he doesn’t need to

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Because he draws fire by existing

dapper gyro
queen laurel
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Genuinely has one of the most creative hero rosters when it comes to abilities

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oh man i would have killed to try Dehaka

stuck arrow
dapper gyro
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It was an actually fun and enjoyable game.

queen laurel
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And I will say probably has one of the weirdest characters I have ever seen in a moba

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Cho'gall

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A 2 player character that is absolutely devastating if used correctly

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also deathwing

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which is practically a raid boss but in turn has some massive caveats to balance his power

dapper gyro
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Abathur, staying in one spot but has control of the flow of the entire map.

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Sgt Hammer, a fucking siege tank

stuck arrow
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RTS in a MOBA

queen laurel
dapper gyro
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Vikings, you control 3 heroes at once.

queen laurel
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yeah genuinely awesome characters

queen laurel
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bloody tasmanian devil from looney tunes

dapper gyro
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Rexxar and Misha

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Medivh, portals and invul in the air.

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Varian, can turn into 3 different classes.

stuck arrow
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Surprise Dehaka disables were pretty hype when a league was still around

dapper gyro
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The most recent patch nerfed him again...

queen laurel
dapper gyro
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Hots has so many unique things.

dapper gyro
queen laurel
tight stratus
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Can someone remind me. someone here the other day said were getting. Darktide tabletop game soon or DND or something soon that will go along with an update

dapper gyro
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Oh, the god damned Murky.

queen laurel
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it's already out

tight stratus
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Oh

stuck arrow
dapper gyro
queen laurel
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grabs, burrows, AOE damage

queen laurel
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and he's also hard to kill because of

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one of his ultimates

dapper gyro
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That one sucks

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You can get killed before it kicks in.

queen laurel
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that you need good timing to use

dapper gyro
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Oh yes, ChoGall's best support, Auriel, who have revive in a Moba game...

queen laurel
dapper gyro
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So if you revive ChoGall, you revive 2 players.

queen laurel
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Probably the other character I'm only interested to play

dapper gyro
queen laurel
dapper gyro
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Then he gets somewhat strong, but still not meta.

queen laurel
green loom
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I liked Varian when I played

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If I went back today I'd probably start becoming an Anduin/Morales main

dapper gyro
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Even if Butcher has full stack, still meh.

dapper gyro
green loom
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I shifted very heavily to playing support stuff in the last year

dapper gyro
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Tychus, anti tank specialist, has built in %damage, which ignores damage reductions.

dapper gyro
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Dota 2 and LoL don't have balls to make such things.

dapper gyro
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The issue is that the passive unstoppable also denies it from receiving healing and buff from teammates, so it cannot tank for long.

queen laurel
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yeah i like warriors how can you tell

dapper gyro
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Bruisers are better to learn the game.

queen laurel
dapper gyro
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Im a stealth annoyer...

queen laurel
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even if he looks like he's not good

dapper gyro
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Blaze is very strong

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Usually played like bruiser/side tank though.

queen laurel
dapper gyro
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Kind of in and out

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His cc on the enemy is also his healing, you have to decide what you want.

dapper gyro
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Bunker is quite broken

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Holy shit, I realized that I still remember the name of pretty much all of the abilities in the game and most talents.

queen laurel
dapper gyro
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Now it makes me even sadder that the game is gone.

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Well, gone as in no development, no care.

queen laurel
dapper gyro
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Fenix's planet cracker, which other moba where an ability like that is not broken.

queen laurel
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but the maps

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my god the maps

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Warhead junction and Braxis Holdout?

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peak

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throwing nukes into building your own zerg horde

dapper gyro
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Towers of Doom

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Insane map

queen laurel
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it seems genuinely good fun

dapper gyro
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I don't think that I can bring myself back to play it again.

celest dome
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What do you all think a Shiver Blade work like ? Simple Force weapons ?

storm jungle
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I think thats just a nickname?

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cant recall if it was a unique thing or not

queen laurel
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seems they are just you know blades

storm jungle
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yeah was gonna say lol

celest dome
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sadge

dapper gyro
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Night Hardened... buzz word marketing...

celest dome
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But it mean no Katana in DT, so that's an upside

raven stone
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Katana is not a bad concept, but it is out of place with the very England origins of 40k as a whole

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Maybe as a skin, labeled as a Chogrosian weapon, for duelling swords

celest dome
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Katana don't really seem out of place in a largely multicultural Imperium.

queen laurel
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yeah with how wide the warhammer universe is

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every weapon can exist in there

dapper gyro
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DT has the dual sabre, which is close enough.

celest dome
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You realise that a Katana isn't really like the Duel Swords that we have ?

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Like Catachan Swords if anything are closer

dapper gyro
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If not, another alternative would be the adding the Kriegsmesser.

dapper gyro
celest dome
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Shape, use, using similar guards, 1h but with the possibility to use 2h...

dapper gyro
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One of the thickest, widest and relatively short sword... Ok.

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Claw is closer to pioneer sword than anything, round guard is notJapanese only thing neither.

celest dome
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But Duel Swords aren't closer to a Katana...

dapper gyro
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If that's your consideration, then the heavy sword/falchion are the closest.

dusk patrol
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None of the weapons are anyways

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Animations are more what matters

dapper gyro
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Of course none of them are. For decades, they can add East Asian stuff any time, especially during the pop culture of the 80/90s with ninja and stuff, yet we don't really get anything.

dusk patrol
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Good

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Suffer weebs

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Suffer

vagrant fox
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and as we all know revolvers are the katanas of the west

humble shoal
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now why would they ever add katanas

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they don't make sense

dapper gyro
dusk patrol
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I don’t know what that is, and I’m not gonna google it to find out

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But yes

dapper gyro
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Wooden katana

nocturne crest
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I wonder if anyone would want matchlock/flintlock musket type weapons in darktide, seeing how they still exist somewhat in 40k.

vagrant fox
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Sure add a las-lock, it'd be fun

gloomy current
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How'd that even work? Just have a massive battery that contains 1 really large shot?

vagrant fox
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All I remember is they fire one rather powerful shot

dapper gyro
queen laurel
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yeah these things pack a punch

plush mason
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do the skitarii use las weapons or is it just the arc and rad guns?

celest dome
shadow plover
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keep an eye on that one

green loom
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Hold on, he isn't bald yet

queen laurel
nocturne crest
barren prawn
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its never too late

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do it

crystal forum
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cats are literally perfect creatures

plush mason
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random

sly ivy
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What in god’s name is going on in here lol

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I just read the last 3 messages without context

queen laurel
celest dome
raven stone
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2 ish hours till Saturday article…

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For Warhammer Community

winter vessel
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Summarizing the fate of a psyker being in service to the god emperor of mankind:

raven stone
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Looks Marvel ish but I recognise nothing

storm jungle
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"Sir you are about to get your soul sucked."

raven stone
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One of the better/more depressing bits of HH

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Is the bit where they do it for the first time…

arctic talon
median star
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so since they conceived melta grenades do plasma grenades exist

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and consequently could las? grenades exist

gray umbra
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does overheating your plasma gun/las gun battery count

median star
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perhaps

gray umbra
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thats from rogue trader

arctic talon
raven stone
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(Although IIRC Eldar just end up using them as fancier Anti Tank nades like Krak)

arctic talon
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yeah

crystal forum
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a las grenade would be like a bunch of laser pointers set to overdrive for a brief second attached to a las pack or something

crystal forum
arctic talon
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its like haywire grenades which (were) an eldar only thing

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until we got lore on admech using them

crystal forum
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maybe humanity prefers mass manufacturing krak grenades instead

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also idk how frag grenades are meant to hurt astartes

vagrant fox
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Why make difficult plasma grenades instead of easy frag and krak

crystal forum
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it's always admech that gets the good shit

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curse them

vagrant fox
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who could've seen this coming

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In the Deathwatch TTRPG I'd just sometimes drop a frag grenade at my feet because I'd be immune to it

arctic talon
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unless the marine gets absurdly unlucky with shrapnel

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kraks kill marines good though

crystal forum
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ye

median star
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also like how does a melta grenade even work

celest dome
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Well 1st off, which type of Melta is it

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It's probably the Plasmified matter ones, so basically proto Plasma bombs

arctic talon
median star
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and is a krak basically just a magnetized hedp type of thing or something else

crystal forum
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melta create heat. where that heat comes from is not a consistent lore thing as there's 2 main types that have the exact same effect

crystal forum
arctic talon
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Kraks also tend to not have as much shrapnel

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As frags

median star
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so i know dark angels are kind of major dickheads in the fact that they'll kill/disappear people sometimes for just know about the fallen is their a limit in power of the person theyre trying to get rid of to keep it hidden ie would they try and take out a custodes to keep the secret

vagrant fox
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They've done more or less just that

green loom
gray umbra
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That rogue trader page was the only reference to imperial plasma grenades i could find unless theres like a nugget in a book somewhere

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Iirc the table said it was rare

green loom
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It's also dictated by how desperate they are

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The dudes almost fired on Guilliman

gray umbra
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Dark angels have disappeared inquisitors right?

arctic talon
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yes

green loom
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Multiple times yes

arctic talon
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not very powerful ones

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but yes

median star
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so outside of the emperor himself p much anyones free game as long as they think itd work out in the end and blame could be shifted

green loom
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Yes

arctic talon
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yeah pretty much

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they were considering firing on guilliman

green loom
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They send a team into the imperial palace at one point

arctic talon
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when he showed up

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and all the Unforgiven were at the rock

green loom
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With plasma bombs hooked up inside them to remove any evidence should one die

median star
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did the dark angels and alpha legion ever see eye to eye in the fact they both perform dubious black ops tier shit non stop

green loom
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Nah

arctic talon
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the DA thought the AL weren't direct enough

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the AL thought the DA weren't secretive enough

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the one thing they both agreed on was terminator spearheads

green loom
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Although iirc the Alpha Legion still had trouble getting into the DA because of how crazy their internal paranoia was

gray umbra
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Dark angels are more cover up than operating procedure

median star
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i think slowley the da have become my second favorite chapter over throwing raven guard

gray umbra
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Fallen are(were?) a mark of shame.

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Not sure how it stands with the lion coming back and rallying the loyal ones

median star
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whos the current chapter master of da and has he been able to meet the lion yet

arctic talon
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Still a mark of shame

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azreal has met the lion

green loom
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Most of the DA don't actually know what the companions even are

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Shit most of the inner circle is told that the Lion being back is fake news

median star
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did he talk w him abt the fallen and what he was planning or was him bringing back in the fallen a spur of the moment kind of thing

arctic talon
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he did

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Lion basicially shows up when ever the DA captures fallen

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tests them

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if they pass they become risen

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otherwise the interrogator chaplains get to "make them repent"

arctic talon
median star
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think luther coul ever rise again

arctic talon
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for anyone who survived wyrmwood

arctic talon
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he's chaos corrupted

gray umbra
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Not every fallen was in on it

arctic talon
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but yeah the lion is still pretty secret

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the inner circle are also still a bunch of assholes

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not much has changed at all, Lion approves of what the DA have done lol

median star
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which do you think has a higher likelihood of reforming first alpha legion or nightlords

arctic talon
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night lords

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they have 2 centralized large warbands

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which is way more then the AL

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with a grand total of none

gray umbra
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Reforming as in becoming loyal or reforming as a whole legion

median star
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wasnt their that one book kind no to long ago about a group of them in a group

arctic talon
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still not a large warband

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well

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its large

median star
arctic talon
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but not nearly large enough

gray umbra
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Probably night lords

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I dont think alpha legion really knows what theyre doing anymore

median star
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its all according to plan

gray umbra
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But which one 😉

arctic talon
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A true command structure will prolly never reform

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But they’re more organized then the AL

median star
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isnt their also that one nightlord guy had the name like "enlightened"or something ominous

green loom
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A few AL warbands got together but they're like

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Just hanging out

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And divided like crazy stil

raven stone
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Yea AL kind of just self disintegrated during HH due to the way they work

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As a full legion, that is

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Dorn actually canonically 200% confirmed to have offed Alpharius couldn’t have helped matters either.

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(Kind of why Imperial Fist are my second fav Loyalist legion. I give them respect for that, where it’s due.)

spare osprey
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"alpharius" arriving out of nowhere during the xenocides and saying he'd back the lion as warmaster

iron mural
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Okay so I’ve heard space wolves have successer chapters but I’ve also heard they don’t I’m confused

spare osprey
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Wolf Brothers i think

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they had to be disbanded cause the wulfen curse was rampant

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but since primaris gene seed is more stable

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they have been able to create chapters with them

arctic talon
spare osprey
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Wolfspear is the one that comes to mind

arctic talon
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Ironically

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The issue was that SW geneseed thats been on Fenris

spare osprey
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ahhhh

arctic talon
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Gets irreversibly fucked up and can only be reimplanted on people from fenris

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And it only clicked for the space wolves

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Once the primaris sucessors showed up as to what was wrong

raven stone
iron mural
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Hmm I see because I’ve been thinking of homebrewing a space wolves chapter might even homebrew a dark angel chapter

arctic talon
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It’s something added

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To SW geneseed implementation

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But they were doing it pre fenris already

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Something about Fenris is messed up fundamentally

raven stone
plush mason
raven stone
iron mural
arctic talon
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Just a sucessor chapter

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Could make them ultima founding

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Tbh

raven stone
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yea, for DA, can be straightforward.

arctic talon
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Just make them part of Gullimans big wave of “more chapters now”

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DA geneseed is stable yeah

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So they get successors formed decently often

raven stone
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BA is literally Freeform - despite their instability, they do have successors…

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Only Wolves need a bit of wrangling if pre-Ultima founding.

arctic talon
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Yeah

iron mural
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Sweet thanks for the informationthumbsup_ogryn

arctic talon
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Tbh I do find it hilarious the SW are now absurdly paranoid

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Of letting any of their successors land on fenris

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Because they do not want a repeat of what happened before

iron mural
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It’s kind of refreshing that I can homebrew successer chapters just need a good explanation

raven stone
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Part of the fun of 40k (and, arguably, more fun than the actual playing the tabletop game nowadays)
Is the lore creation.

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I love how sandbox of a franchise 40k is.

raven stone
dusk patrol
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They already did tbh

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@arctic talon

green loom
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"Warhammer Concert Suite" composed by Jesper Kyd
Arrangement and orchestration by Benoît Grey
Performed by The Danish National Symphony Orchestra and The Danish National Concert Choir
Conducted by James Sherlock

This performance was a part of the video game live concert "Gaming X Symphony" broadcasted on The Danish Broadcast Corporation (DR)
...

▶ Play video
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Jesper Kyd is back to cooking

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Or not really back but

dusk patrol
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How dare you suggest he ever stopped

vagrant fox
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it's funny because he's danish and no one pronounces kyd right

sacred ginkgo
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I spectated a discussion on how to and actually know

vagrant fox
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Karma has its kiss for me once again

dusk patrol
vagrant fox
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god forbid

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Low germans are the only acceptable germans clearly

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Man, arguing with Tau fans that the Tau have never been good while I wait for GTA to download is exhausting

dusk patrol
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Mfw I’m in a didn’t read the lore contest and my competition is a Tau fan who thinks GW made them more evil after their release

vagrant fox
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Some random tau wouldn't kill themselves because an ethereal commands it, somehow it has to be clone trooper brain chips

crystal forum
vagrant fox
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Naur not really, I like complaining

dusk patrol
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No just always some fans who get weird about the Tau being evil

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Somehow the Tau used to be good

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Even though their first rulebook has basically all the bad stuff we know about them right off the rip

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It’s the same as people who want Salamanders to be good

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Just people who need some good guy to like cause they’re weak and pathetic

crystal forum
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oh i thought you meant some recent release made them look worse or smth

vagrant fox
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The question posed of what's the point of the tau if they aren't the good guys is weird to me

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Sir or ma'am this is warhammmers fourtythousands

dusk patrol
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They can be better than the alternatives

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While still being evil

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It’s so silly to me

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But whatever

vagrant fox
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I prefer that niche for them, manifest destiny is a good thing to them and all that. But whatever indeed

dusk patrol
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They’re Grimdark NATO

arctic talon
arctic talon
opaque coyote
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All of these fucking faces can be used as a god damn reaction image istg

dusk patrol
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Those aren’t even the worst ones

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I love those comics

arctic talon
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I love how absurdly cursed those faces get tbh

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its peak

dusk patrol
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One of the last Bastions actually good comics posted on Reddit

opaque coyote
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real

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Also the classic one

dusk patrol
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I love that the human’s face is always the exact same too

opaque coyote
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No thoughts in those eyes

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perfect

vagrant fox
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I've already used this three times today

opaque coyote
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The wolf's face in the last panel shows no remorse for her action.

noble salmon
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What did the Tyranids tell the Blood Angels?
Fuck it we Baal

rose thorn
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@queen laurel hey is there any new Kruleboy clans / clan lore updates in the battletome

dapper gyro
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Autist time

rose thorn
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My partner is getting hit on in space marine 2

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whatthefuck_heresy what is this 2012?

dapper gyro
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I like that DarkTide call it Tactical Axe and not Tomahawk. Tac axe are more like hatchet and does more serious damage than the typical tiny and light tomahawk axe.

outer wave
rose thorn
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“Hey babe, I hope I can devour your biomass”

dapper gyro
rose thorn
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Lmao

outer wave
rose thorn
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“Hey babe, wanan see you what else has precision auto fire?”

dapper gyro
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Use his bolter and spray it all over the heretics

outer wave
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Im surprised people will hit on others still in video games like that

dapper gyro
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Do you play MP games often?

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Especially those with comm

outer wave
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Nope

dapper gyro
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Here you go

outer wave
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And Im a dude so

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Im not privy to get hit on

dapper gyro
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Most of the time it is just for the meme of it.

outer wave
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Ive played MWO which surprisingly has women playing

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Im surprised people dont hit on them, or at least no hitting on from whenever I was in game with them

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Good overall

vagrant fox
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only hit on them when you've established a friendship so you can ruin everything

outer wave
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God Ive seen that

dapper gyro
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Maybe because I played too much videogames that seeing/hearing women doesn't surprise me anymore, doesn't matter the game.

outer wave
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Im surprised there are women playing a 10+ year old PVP mech game that has a pretty male dominated fan base

dusk patrol
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Hearing a women talking to them surprises a lot of gamers tbf

dapper gyro
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I see them in Warcraft 3, an old ass game.

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Also Halo MCC

storm jungle
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I had many awkward encounters before i stopped using mics in online games 💀

green loom
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Granted I don't talk to anyone but hey comedic effect

dapper gyro
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I'm really indifferent about women in video games, I see another person, that's it. Though, we have different lives.

storm jungle
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I mean yes because you are a relatively a normal person

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most people turn into baboons lol

grim bolt
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man the more I learn about the dark angels, the more I am just like 'is everyone in the dark angels fucking stupid???'

sacred bluff
outer wave
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Yes

grim bolt
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I just do not get why people like em based on what I have learned about em from the books and such

storm jungle
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their schtick is just braindead af

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like its an extremely rare case where ironically the memes about them are all very much correct lol

grim bolt
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'guys, we need to kill guilliman, he might known about the fallen!'

proceeds to try and KILL HIM

'oh wait, he just wanted to give us primaris marines'

storm jungle
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peak comedy

sacred bluff
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Space wolves (Leman) just got all the good stuff

green loom
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Okay they didn't go through with it TBF

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But they DID consider

storm jungle
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the fact that they even did is even funnier

grim bolt
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and when they murdered a custodes and were like

'is it our fault for murdering a shadowkeeper?'

'no it must be the fallens fault!'

storm jungle
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they are so fucking goofy

storm jungle
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like-

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their entire palace incursion is fucking stupid dont get me wrong

grim bolt
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yeah the custodes had cypher and stuff in custody

storm jungle
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and they take no pleasure in fighting a custodian thats alone and by itself

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but like

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attacking him with ZERO hesitation is fucking hilarious

grim bolt
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and some deathwings fired at a shadow keeper who killed 6 of em before being killed with warp powers and they were like 'I know we opened fire first, but this isn't our fault, its actually the fallen guys I swear'

storm jungle
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He at least kills like 6 out of 10 of them lol

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ey jinx

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but yeah its stupid as shit but its kinda whatever

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it unfortunately has become their entire identity but its hopefully gonna slowly go away

dusk patrol
grim bolt
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the only thing I like about the dark angels is their little friends

dusk patrol
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Most people don't read the books also

storm jungle
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Thats the issue

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You read the books

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and its still the same thing

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lol

dusk patrol
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People like the Salamanders based off vibes

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And nothing else

grim bolt
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like I know the chapters often get exaugurated and stuff

storm jungle
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Yeah because Salamanders dont have a gimmick that is distruptive and annoying

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(mostly)

dusk patrol
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They do

grim bolt
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but I thought 'oh they just made the dark angels to the extreme for the memes'

grim bolt
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and then I started actually reading about them and went 'Wait, they weren't fucking around, these guys are actually stupid'

dusk patrol
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But people are just dumb and ignore it cause they like it when marines pet dogs and are nice to kids to the detriment of the mission.

storm jungle
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Yeah but id still take that over the Fallen

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its an absolute cancer of a "faction identity" gimmick

storm jungle
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DA are cool as fuck until they get to doing anything regarding the Fallen

grim bolt
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I like when we get moments of like, space marines actually being humans

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Crimson fists are great

storm jungle
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Yeah but them bombing orphanages is funnier

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imo at least

dusk patrol
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Pandorax is a very cool Dark Angel book for example.

storm jungle
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Yeah but thats an outlier

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tho Pandorax is also its own can of worms

dusk patrol
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Anything Fallen is boring but theres at least a few which aren't

storm jungle
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The damage is done tbh

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im glad the Lion's return actually had him go like

dusk patrol
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If the damage was done nobody would like Eldar

storm jungle
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"Yeah uh stop that"

grim bolt
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like when the uhhh

storm jungle
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The Eldar have nothing to do with this conversation

dusk patrol
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There's no lack of factions which are cooler than their books despite their books being meh

storm jungle
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Anyway

dusk patrol
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I like Sallies for examples still despite their dogshit books

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And they have literally no good books.

storm jungle
#

the Fallen gimmick is bad and has almost ruined the DA as a faction, this is very much a general consensus a lot of people agree with and are annoyed by extremely

grim bolt
#

crimson fist helped the women by carrying her and was like 'you have you carried your burden, now it is your turn to be carried'

storm jungle
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so like, again

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it being slightly changed with the Lion's return is a good thing

storm jungle
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but hey

grim bolt
dusk patrol
#

Everyone dies

dusk patrol
#

You wish

spare osprey
storm jungle
spare osprey
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they're way cooler

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so i've heard

storm jungle
#

Hmmm

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not biased at all

spare osprey
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0%

storm jungle
#

but also 30k DA scheme is cooler so i must agree

grim bolt
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I would do

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so many crimes

grim bolt
#

for the chance of a like, magnus redemption book

spare osprey
#

30k DA is nice, plus you still have some of the green

grim bolt
#

the noble shard of magnus exists.

storm jungle
#

Magnus is a cunt

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and hes better that way

grim bolt
#

I know its stupid, but PLEASE, I BEG YOU GW

spare osprey
green loom
#

Like

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To death

grim bolt
#

Magnus was like shattered and stuff into a bunch of bits by big mcfurry

green loom
#

Are you reading the HH

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Important

grim bolt
#

If I didn't have really nasty dyslexia, I would be reading them, but I know about it

green loom
#

Okay yeah Khan goes and kills that shard on Prospero I think

spare osprey
grim bolt
#

with the grey knights or smth

green loom
#

If you're thinking of the one that merges with Revuel

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To stop him from dying

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I think

grim bolt
#

Ahriman has gathered like, 4 shards of magnus, with the noble shard being on terra from what I am reading?

green loom
#

Then he's currently I believe in Abaddon's throneroom

grim bolt
#

granted, I can't read good

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the shard of prospero was destroyed by jaggi

#

'The Shard of Terra, representing Magnus' noblest virtues, was created when Magnus sought to breach the psychic wards of the Imperial Webway extension to warn the Emperor of Horus' betrayal, was kept by Malcador the Sigillite on Terra, and the corrupted Magnus declared that the Thousand Sons Legion would aid Horus' assault on Terra to recover it. Meanwhile this shard stalked the Imperial Dungeons and was eventually sealed into the body of Revuel Arvida by Malcador. The ritual did not go as planned and a new being emerged, neither Arvida or Magnus, known as Ianius, later Janus, the first Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights'

#

I do like magnus, I know he has a lot of faults, but I do honestly think that if russ hadn't basically went to kill magnus when being tricked by horus? or erabus?, I think he would have stayed loyal

green loom
#

I mean it was already too late

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Magnus' main thing is he's too smart for his own good

grim bolt
#

We should trade our russ for magnus

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trust

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it would be so awesome

arctic talon
#

Magnus would have fallen to chaos one way or another

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He was literally working with daemons

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Pre Nikea lol

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Tzeentch had its claws in him forever

grim bolt
#

nuh uh

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I am lying

#

to myself

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😔

arctic talon
#

I hope the Tutelary claws your eyes out like they did to that one random tsons librarian at Nikea/j

grim bolt
#

the Khan jsut has to return too.

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and the kahn would make magnus nice again

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trust

dusk patrol
#

Magnus would have fucked it up for the loyalists if he stayed loyal anyways

arctic talon
grim bolt
dusk patrol
#

Magnus's primarch power is despite all odds, always making the worst possible choice.

grim bolt
#

I just need more copium guys I swear

green loom
#

I wonder how we'd port the Ubersreik 5 to AoS

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Knowing the freaky magic shenanigans we get up to I think we could handwave a super future portal

dusk patrol
green loom
#

Otherwise though I'm thinking

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Stormcast Saltz
Ossiarch Kruber

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Sylvaneth Kerillian

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Dunno about Bardin doe

grim bolt
#

I feel bad for some of the primarchs honestly

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mainly what happened between dorn and perty

rose thorn
#

Update the guy who was hitting on my partner was a raging transphobe

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Hitting on her in space marine 2

grim bolt
#

I know there was a friendship between a fist and a Iron warrior which was stated to be what could have been between dorn and perty if they both weren't too autistic 😔

arctic talon
green loom
#

Becomes Fyreslayer

arctic talon
#

I hate fyreslayers

green loom
#

Or actually couldn't he also get yoinked out of the soul pile and restored

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I wonder if it'd be neat to make a new team that's mentored by Stormcast Saltz

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He remembers, vaguely, fighting Skaven a long time ago

grim bolt
#

I almsot just straight up said 'we should have a darktide version of warhammer fantasy'

while having played vermintide 2

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guys, I am an actual ogryn irl without the benefits

green loom
#

But someone higher up knows a bit more, and Sigmar is known to do weird experiments with specific Stormcast heroes(See: Ms Blacktalon)

prime flicker
arctic talon
#

Tbh the person with the shittiest time post revival assuming all the humans get turned to storm cast is Kerellian lol

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Since her soul would end up in Slaanesh’s stomach

prime flicker
arctic talon
#

Tbf slaanesh had that

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Already from eating so many tasty elf souls

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Which is why they got jumped

prime flicker
#

I feel like that was more like a food coma.

grim bolt
#

honestly, I think slaneesh is the least interesting of the chaos gods, but that is just me

glossy sonnet
#

Slaanesh has the coolest lore but the most boring theme

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and daemons

prime flicker
#

I'll probably get crucified for it, but I think all of the big four are pretty dull. I'd rather hear about the Great Horned Rat, Hashut or even Vashtorr (yes I know Vashtorr is not ascended)

glossy sonnet
#

I like vashtorr much more than the chaos gods

grim bolt
#

Who is Hashut?

#

and I adore Vashtorr, he is my favorite minor warp god

dapper gyro
outer wave
prime flicker
#

If you like Vashtorr you'd probably like Hashut. He's the minor chaos god worshipped by the chaos dwarves. God of tyranny and industry. Taught them how to turn daemons into batteries and other fun stuff.

arctic talon
grim bolt
#

ah

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I don't know warhammer fantasy well

arctic talon
#

He might be in 40K

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But we have no knowledge of it

outer wave
#

^

grim bolt
#

mainly because I have other fantasy settings I prefer

arctic talon
#

For minor chaos gods/demi gods in 40K we have The Raptor God, Malice(barely) and Vashtor

grim bolt
#

the raptor god??

arctic talon
prime flicker
#

Don't forget the greater good now technically haha, god that's so weird to say now.

arctic talon
#

Oh yeah

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That thing

#

Which might be a lord of change

grim bolt
#

no idea who the raptor cult is tbh

arctic talon
grim bolt
#

Ah

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I was thinking dinosaurs tbh

glossy sonnet
#

dinosaur chaos god

grim bolt
#

ye

#

velociraptor type shit

glossy sonnet
#

chaos space marines riding on dinosaurs would be hard

grim bolt
#

it would

arctic talon
#

They’re referred to as raptors because

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They start growing claws/talons and shit

#

The chosen of the raptor god become warp talons

outer wave
#

I know little of them but they apparently known as Exodites?

arctic talon
#

Exodites yeah

outer wave
#

Beaut

crystal forum
storm jungle
green loom
crystal forum
sly ivy
#

It’s true when u catch The Gay ur butt becomes this

#

It’s basic biology

opaque coyote
#

elven wall

dapper gyro
#

What degenerate thing is this?

opaque coyote
#

elf

stuck arrow
#

Isn't that the dude from The Mummy

opaque coyote
#

yes

stuck arrow
#

Imhotep. Not to be confused with Imhotekh

glossy sonnet
#

The stormlord?

stuck arrow
#

The one and only

remote widget
#

"Millennia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra. Its mission was to reach the utmost limits of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that one day it would arrive back to its place of origin having circumnavigated the universe, or in other words, skirted the edge of reality. This probe is still sending back signals after fourteen thousand years adrift. The signals are faint and the probe is not yet on its way back, if it ever will come back. To the utter despair of the Imperial Techpriests who constantly monitor the incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for mankind can only be this: that wherever they go, the Orks will always be with them."

is this where the krorks went?

plush mason
#

the krorks devolved into orks due to lack of challenging fights afaik

queen laurel
#

yeah that

#

the lack of challenge and Eldar systematically culling them in ways that lack proper fights basically made them devolve

dusky scroll
#

I recently tried learning more about what'd happen if emperor dies or what if he resurrects. And I came across a bunch weird stuff that is normally never mentioned in 40k videos or conversations. Things like Star child, Dark King, Sensei, Illuminati.

Are these old/irrelevant lore? Are they retconned out of existence now?

dusk patrol
#

Most of it is mentioned but it’s very old lore or people kinda

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Speculate a lot

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Sensei I don’t think have come up for over a decade

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Or maybe 2

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Dark King is the chaos god he would have become during the siege

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But didn’t end up happening

dusky scroll
#

"Sensei" was a dumb name for what they're supposed to be.

dusk patrol
#

Yeah it’s

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It’s good it’s not a thing much anymore

#

Star Child is sorta just a name for the Emperor in the warp

dusky scroll
#

Does it (star child) do anything now in the current lore?

#

Or is it also something GW wants to forget about?

dusk patrol
#

It’s more just his name in the warp tbh

#

The Sensei connection and all that was mostly very early Ian Watson stuff

#

They still use the name but it’s more just a generic description of how he is in the warp

dusky scroll
#

What does warp emperor do now?

#

like does give any blessing to anyone or something?

dusk patrol
#

Yeah but it’s inconsistent

remote widget
#

there is the seperate idea of the star child though

#

but thats old lore too

dusk patrol
#

The issue is the star child lore is mixed up with the old and new stuff

#

And Lexicanum and other sites don’t really differentiate that

dusky scroll
#

I assumed what's mentioned in lexicanum is super old stuff

dusk patrol
#

Some is some isn’t

#

Its best imo to try to find where they’re getting the information from

#

And read the more recent appearances

#

Ignore the Ian Watson and old stuff largely.

#

The idea though seems to be of the emperor getting more power in the warp and of an “awakening” happening for it, but what exactly it’ll do who knows

dusky scroll
dusk patrol
#

I’ll say, a lot of this stuff is

#

Super easy to find online for free

#

PDFs for older stuff exists aplenty if you just google free pdf of whatever

#

Not always but yeah

#

But yeah I get that you can’t always

dusky scroll
#

Are you talking about the 'P' word?

#

xD I'll check 'em out. I've gotten a bit too lazy for books tbh

rose thorn
#

Someone please explain this, someone posted it at my LGS discord and I’m so so confused

dusky scroll
#

Short form internet content has been rotting my brain slowly.

queen laurel
#

that is basically spelled out as blood

rose thorn
#

OHHHHHHHHHHH

crystal forum
#

it's a gang sign you doofus

crisp heath
queen laurel
crisp heath
#

B POSITIVE

rose thorn
#

I saw the first one back in like, 2018

queen laurel
#

but it became more popular in warhammer after you know

#

space king

crystal forum
#

sweaty nerds need to stop this

rose thorn
#

I didnt like it bank then but my sense of humor is pretty trash

queen laurel
crystal forum
#

i dont particularly find this funny

queen laurel
crystal forum
#

are you annoyed?

queen laurel
crystal forum
#

oh im sorry i forgot that gang signs are meant to be funny

#

go do one in los angeles

queen laurel
crisp heath
#

It's funny cause it's ridiculous I think that's the point of space king

crystal forum
#

if the first thing that passes through your mind when seeing that is space king you need to go out more

#

or you're a moron

#

both can also be true

queen laurel
#

what are you gonna do about it that's literally what happened

crystal forum
#

what are you trying to prove

queen laurel
#

Like yes it's a gang sign but it's a gang sign popularized by a YouTube video which in turn became popular to a setting

grim bolt
#

I don't think thinking going outside more will help you not think of space king?

crystal forum
#

just because it was your personal first exposure to a fucking gang sign does not mean it popularized it lmao

queen laurel
crystal forum
#

dont replicate it and post pics of yourself doing it. really not that complicated what im trying to say

#

you're a moron if you do

queen laurel
crystal forum
#

i dont care

#

dont do it

queen laurel
#

That's just like asking to get shot

crystal forum
#

dont do gang signs in public

#

can we just keep it at that

queen laurel
crystal forum
#

literally nothing is a given this is the internet you know this

queen laurel
crisp heath
#

You can be smart as hell and still have the awareness of a potatoe I think common sense is iq

hallow basin
#

it's intelligence vs wisdom argument all over again

crisp heath
#

My bad

queen laurel
plush mason
#

the brain rot is real and comes for all of us

crisp heath
#

What about that insta glitch that was showing everyone covered videos of hard out gore a week or so ago

#

That was messed up

dusky scroll
#

It was like social media censorship is like God Emperor holding back chaos and an eye of terror was opened up in Instagram.

opaque coyote
#

probably wouldn't be good to put something irl in 40k tho

#

also would be weird considering it's like

38000 years later

queen laurel
#

like at all

opaque coyote
#

yeah

opaque coyote
#

请帮帮我

dapper gyro
sour hornet
#

the type to care about ish like this don't live in the same tax bracket

#

I can promise you

raven stone
#

And re: earlier conversations…

#

Flash Gitz (guy who made space king) is a Brit

#

Brits who, you know, are adamantly stubborn headed about making fun of…everything.

#

Even dangerous or inappropriate things at times.

#

(Then again I suppose that’s just Brits being Brits)

iron mural
#

I really wish successes chapters were a thing in 30k because I want to make a world eater successer chapter in 40k where they are loyalist and didn’t turn on the emperor is there a way I could do that?

raven stone
#

Your successors could be from a World Eaters Loyalist splinter faction

#

Also, look up a dude called Endryd Haar if you need

#

His case is slightly different (due to some HH era specific politics about a legion’s identity before/after meeting Primarch) but the core idea or a loyalist World Eater is there.

dusk patrol
#

^

#

just make a smaller company or whatever who did things different

#

Give them some name

#

A lot of chapters came from those and already had their name in fact

dapper gyro
#

Most chapters are just former companies of the parent legion, you can put your take on them a little bit.

#

Even some groups like terran RG had different companies and mindset.

arctic talon
#

Later foundings def not

iron mural
#

So it could work?

arctic talon
#

Wdym

dapper gyro
arctic talon
#

Oh

iron mural
#

I mean because I love world eaters and I want to play them in space marine 2 but I’d have to play the pvp and I’m not a big fan so if I can make a world eaters successer without being hung by jumper cables I’ll just do that

arctic talon
#

If you’re doing something for heresy then nvm lol

#

World eaters have a lot of traitor war bands that make up the legion

dapper gyro
#

Like other traitors, half of their legions are loyal and they have to eliminate those.

arctic talon
#

Well

#

Not really true regarding half of them staying loyal

dapper gyro
#

So having loyal from traitor lagions is fine.

arctic talon
#

Yeah

iron mural
#

Okay then cheersthumbsup_ogryn

iron mural
#

Idk I just came up with that on the spot

arctic talon
iron mural
arctic talon
#

Well they can

#

Also is this 30k era

#

Because in that case they wouldn’t have to worry about khorne at all really

iron mural
#

Well I wanted to see if I can make a we successer chapter in 40k since that’s when space marine 2 takes place of course

shadow plover
#

If y'all haven't seen this, you definitely should

arctic talon
#

What about turnip28

arctic talon
#

Well are you going with the whole

#

Displaced by time thing

#

Or just geneseed lol

#

Or they’ve somehow survived since the heresy

iron mural
#

I guess geeneseed?

#

Idk

arctic talon
#

Geneseed is seperate from culture largely

iron mural
#

Because somehow surviving the heresy sounds like a cool idea but imo doesn’t make sense plus if they did I’m sure they’d be killed by the inquisition

celest dome
#

Could they have a WE Chapter that was mainly composed of Librairian, so they managed to still have Loyalist even if they had Nails

iron mural
dapper gyro
#

World Eaters gene stock, as with all other legion including the traitors, are always available from Terra, so they can always create new chapters from traitor gene seed, but of course sanctioned and classified.

#

Hence the numerous "unknown founding" and "unknown predecessor".

celest dome
#

Isn't the Cursed Founding made from Traitor Legions ?

dapper gyro
#

It is the only one well recorded. In reality, they got books written about them.

dusk patrol
#

Some implied but none were cursed founding that I can recall.

#

Minotaurs are one that the only lore is from a playtester whose original idea was that, with no actual real lore showing it.

#

Space Sharks are confirmed Raven Guard.

dapper gyro
#

Because of the Classified info 😉

dusk patrol
#

We do know they tampered with their geneseed

#

Theres no examples we have of it being traitor geneseed.

celest dome
#

Wait the Space Shark are from he Cursed Founding ?

dusk patrol
#

No

#

I'm just bringing up the examples people bring up of "traitor geneseed" chapters

#

Which aren't actually.

#

Blood Ravens have been outright denied by GW.

iron mural
dusk patrol
#

WE didn't have a planet

#

And the ones they recruited from got blasted

#

Or their primary training worlds

#

Nuceria also

#

And if you want a World Eater culture, just do that tbh.

#

It doesn't need to be a successor to them.

#

Geneseed largely doesn't affect chapters much outside of ones like Space Wolves and Blood Angels.

green loom
#

Yeah they don't have a particularly unique style of doing things

#

Just like

dusk patrol
#

And even they vary alot.

green loom
#

Chains on hands(Which the BT Also have so just, take that)

#

Duels

#

And that's more or less it

#

Before Nuceria they were pretty much super stock too

dusk patrol
#

You don’t need to limit yourself or enslave yourself by the chapter geneseed

#

And also, you don’t even need to pick one

#

Lots of chapters don’t know

dusky scroll
#

From my understanding. Blanks suppress warp in a small area, making psychers weaker or powerless. Sisters of Silence are made of blanks. Do their presence impact Emperors powers somehow? Or are there some sort of anti-blank thing going on there?

iron mural
#

Could you mix geeneseeds?

iron mural
dusk patrol
#

You can make them how you want, I’m just letting you know it’s an overplayed idea and it doesn’t really change anything about them

#

The culture does

#

Some geneseeds have more effects, WE isn’t one

median star
# iron mural Could you mix geeneseeds?

most traitor marines made these days are made from loyalist seed if i recall their a fairly high rank iron warrior rn thats half iron warrior half imperial fist if im remembering correctly

dusk patrol
#

All that yeah

#

Most marines are Ultramarines

#

Goes for both sides

median star
#

i wonder if theirs any warbands that try and look for specific seeds trying to make their idea of a perfect splice i reckon bile probably has already done it tho

#

also bile is able to make basically primaris tier marines now right was that a shared knowledge or only select groups or only he is able to replicate it

celest dome
queen laurel
#

to further add to this point

celest dome
#

Yes, the Assignment

queen laurel
#

blanks are more effective on weaker psykers

#

Compared to someone like the almighty God emperor which is on the top of the psychic scale

celest dome
#

Some people don't really agree on the inverted scale for Blank, it's still somewhat nebulous

crystal forum
green loom
crystal forum
green loom
#

Don't forget their hit video

#

"Racist Mario"

#

It's just gooner slop with a bit of prejudice

shadow plover
#

Flashgitz are trash, more news at 11

#

When they teased the space king shit it seemed like they'd finally put some thought into the parody they're doing and it would be funny thing about 40k but it turned out only the teaser was well thought out and the rest was just the usual uninteresting, unfun trash

crystal forum
#

the argument was about the gang sign in the video i already know they're morons with a quick twitter search

queen laurel
#

It's like not even that special really

#

It's literally just all dumb down versions of marines

crystal forum
queen laurel
crystal forum
#

defending the joke

queen laurel
crystal forum
#

then say that when you're explaining where it comes from

#

that's all im asking

queen laurel
#

and you already told mag that it was a gang sign

#

I understand where you're coming from but you already told the info to mags

#

At that point i would just be repeating what you said

sly ivy
#

Well @storm jungle I finally stumbled across the plagued battle sister fanfic and read it and now I need to take another shower

||a cold shower bc I’m so turned on||

sharp pollen
#

Live.

paper haven
#

I see Lore chat is in top form today.

sour hornet
#

it's not a big deal at all

vagrant fox
#

you should take cold showers regardless because it's better than hot showers

crystal forum
# sour hornet fortnite literally added the crip walk as an emote and was fine

crip walking is no longer only associated with the crips because it spun off as its own dance style. it's actually called "clown walking" if it's done without the connotations of gang activity. this is very different from a straight up gang sign.
https://youtu.be/kM9dwpXQM8A?si=BvGjWoj6sOWY2upk

In this video I'll present my perspective on the two "Walk Dance Styles" Crip walk & Clown Walk and showing differences and similarities.

*Disclaimer:
Don't do the Moves just regardless everywhere and keep in mind that people suffered, because of this dance as being gang affiliated at some places in the world.

For all who already learned my Y...

▶ Play video
storm jungle
#

Alright guys can we move on from this please

#

Weirdest argument ive peeked into this week lol

crystal forum
#

it's cool knowledge at least. i think it's a cool dance style

raven stone
#

We live in a low Wisdom society...nowadays there will always be people who insist on making light of / jokes about inappropriate things just because they can...

#

Because "my freedoms"

storm jungle
#

Not wrong. But still.

raven stone
#

Overall rule of thumb that is very difficult to get right and define well on a socio-political level:

"Just because you could doesn't mean you should."

sly ivy
sly ivy
paper haven
#

"If I can, then I shall."
-me, 2025.

rose thorn
#

a tournament at my lgs is using ai

#

its a 40k tournament 2s, so id probably not play it

#

but still

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

A picture of a csm lmao

#

Like my guy there is thousands of pictures of csm

queen laurel
#

that's just

#

blegh

rose thorn
#

“Man i really want a picture for my tournament. Specifically a RED CHAOS space marine that is standing ontop of skulls,possibly holding some kind of weapon facing the viewer.”

#

“If only there was some kind of art of that…”

spare osprey
rose thorn
#

LMAO

queen laurel
#

like

#

i'm sure they can commission an artist to make them one as well

#

like it's not that hard

queen laurel
median star
#

so say a blood angel aspirant falls out right after the geneseed and is taken in as a chapter surf would they still have the redthirst etc because they were on the path to becoming a blood angel and were nearly there

dusk patrol
#

They wouldn’t get that far

#

BA aspirants go from aspirant to almost full marine over a year

vagrant fox
#

The ones who're chosen to receive the geneseed get to drink from the big sippy cup and put into a coma and put in the blood coffin for a year

dusk patrol
#

Yeah

#

Some fall to the rage or thirst in the coffin and fail but it’s a pass fail

vagrant fox
#

the big sippy cup is a chalice with blood in it

dusk patrol
#

Most become scouts

#

By that stage

vagrant fox
#

I don't recall what happens to the ones who fail the coffin part, it's probably death

dusk patrol
#

They’ve also tested to see if they’re compatible from
the start

dusk patrol
#

Or killed if they can’t

green loom
vagrant fox
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he's got a freakin doohickey

spare osprey
green loom
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I think he's my fav by far

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Barring Miguel

median star
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iv just learned of one of my new favorite things the immaterial college has members from all my favorite legions minus thounsad sons

dusk patrol
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It’s a very fun wacky out of left field Abnett thing

storm jungle
median star
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also are sons of malice and malal and that nonsense still real

storm jungle
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Yes.

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They’ve just been rebranded

spring cairn
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sons of m-halal

storm jungle
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Sons of Molagballs

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But yeah they still a thing

arctic talon
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Also it was never Malal

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In 40K

queen laurel
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yeah malice is his own thing

sacred bluff
arctic talon
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Well malice just replaced Malal

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Since Malal is owned by someone else

queen laurel
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but honestly they may as well have just not even made malice

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Like he is so much of a background prop he may as well not be Canon

arctic talon
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Well

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He’s canon since he shows up

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He’s fine for worldbuilding and background stuff

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Imo

queen laurel
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like if they're gonna make this so called minor god of anarchy they may as well show him around once in a while

arctic talon
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The sons of malice show up

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So he shows up with them

queen laurel
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Better than nothing i suppose

arctic talon
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Tbh

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It’s not like the chaos gods directly show up a ton