#40k-lore-chat

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grim bolt
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The Inquisiton works with but also has black mail on the verdant guard.

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So how they do it is.

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They exploit the verdant guards humanity and care for people, particularly the people of Khorvusia

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they will overlook the strange anomolies of the chapter and of the planet, in exchange, the verdant guard will be requested to take on some of the harshest conditions

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hence, exploiting the chapters high tolerance for disease and toxins and their partial regeneration.

raven stone
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And before you panic about the tithe issue: Marine homeworld are generally speaking exempt from any levy of human tithes (which should include psykers due to, well, librarians)

grim bolt
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its largely a massive forest that does have huge oceans.

crystal forum
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that's only if they contribute to the imperium in some other way. if your chapter is forced to be an inquisitor's pawn then they could get some tithing made smaller

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inquisitors have a lot of sway if you want

grim bolt
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the planrt is about 55% ocean, 45% forest.

green loom
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If yes to both, it's a marine homeworld

grim bolt
raven stone
grim bolt
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OHHH

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Marine

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space marine

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not

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water marine

raven stone
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All good lol

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Dinner time brb

crystal forum
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would be funny if your chapter has some random tiny planet listed as their home world in the administratum books so their main planet isn't fucked with

grim bolt
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Okay so

Verdant guard are still in the imperium, with Khorvusia as their marine world.
They largely work under the inquisition under threat but still work with other legions (still hate iron hands, love them salamanders and raven guard)
Khorvusia doesn't send human tithes to black ships due to marine world (the citizens still willingly have guard regiments they send to the imperium to help out)
Khorvusia still pays tithes in food and medicine
Inquisition ignores their past, the strange changes in their chapter, and the strange nature of the planet itself (the native xenos species as well) due to the continued work of the verdant guard

crystal forum
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you have to make sure they're very obedient and useful to some inquisitors for all their secrets to be kept that way

grim bolt
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yeah, they will accept basically any missions the inquisition demands of them without complaints (even if they do wanna whinge)

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and also, having basically the best medics around on instant call is useful you know

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probably the verdant guard basically need to send inquisitors apothecaries, as like a personal battle medic.

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Can blow the head off an enemy while tending to your wounds.

crystal forum
grim bolt
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Yeah, the verdant guard are like

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the top 0.01% of apothocaries.

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so the inquistion demanding like personal medics makes a lot of sense

crystal forum
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i meant sending bodyguards for inquisitors. that's a small thing for a chapter to do but you rarely see it done out of honor and such

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it shows your chapter's allegiance

grim bolt
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yeah then it change it

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the verdant guard basically willingly offer apothocaries to the inquistion

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as a show of 'We do trust you and thank you for working with us and keeping out secrets'

green loom
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Personal med support for a conclave would be pretty on brand

grim bolt
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also, I should explain how the verdant guard regenerate, because I call it the half system

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so if a marine gets their hand and forearm like blown off, they could restore those over a recovery time.

but if his entire arm gets blow off, only the upper arm is coming back

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and it is NOT instant, major injuries can take time to recover

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Axolotl shit but you know, not instant because thats some bullshit

crystal forum
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is there a purpose to this mutation, story wise

grim bolt
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Reduction in the need for dreadnoughts.

the chapter is relatively small, so they want to ensure that their marines can survive longer

crystal forum
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right so your chapter is small and very elite, that works

grim bolt
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and being able to recover like missing limbs and organs slowly at least ensures you don't need to put you in the forever box or just recover it entirely.

crystal forum
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how do you explain the small size of the chapter

grim bolt
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Well, they were basically originally made up of just a small group of loyalist death guard

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so they didn't have much gene seed to work with, they have been able to recreate some extra ones, but it is a long process that isn't guaranteed work out

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its like

'oh yeah we can get more geneseed for a single marine, but it will take a few decades at minimum and it might just..not work'

crystal forum
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alright that's all kosher

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do you have any particular engagements you thought of so far

grim bolt
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I have had someee

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lemme find them

grim bolt
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but these are kinda old now so might be weird

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Battle of 3 sieges.

the Verdant guard had taken up a fortified position on a forest planet being besieged by forces of deathguard, world eaters and iron warriors. for 3 years, the 4th Arbour legion was bound to the mountains, using their fortified position and numerous passage ways to strike back against the chaos legions. Eventually, the supplies had run dry however. In a final bid, Arbor Scout Eldiner used himself as bait for the chaos forces, leading them away from the mountain. On his person he carried an explosive payload with enough power to level the area. Giving time for his squad to flee, he was eventually cornered before activating the payload, takin himself with the chaos forces. His bravery was never forgotten as a statue built in his honor and placed within the fortress monestary of Khorvusia

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the 10 day march

The 10 day march followed a battle gone poorly on a death world. A human settlement was being attacked by Orcs, and with the verdant guard being the only chapter there, and already in few numbers, they decided it was best to evacuate the civilians. The nearest way to leave the planet was the Verdant Guard Arbor Fortress, which for an astartes, was a 10 day walk, but having a group of 20+ civilians would cause the journey to be significantly more difficult. to keep time short, the verdant guard began to carry the civilians, true to their gentle giant nature. through night and day, and with all the harsh terrain of the death world, the verdant guard made it to the arbor fortress, resupplying and beginning to fly the civilians of the death world, staying behind to ensure that the arbor fortress would not be unmanned

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final one will absolutely need updates though, very heresy and stuff

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Battle of the Genesis Ultimatum

Upon a tau world besieged by Tyrannids, the Verdant Guard came to the aid of the Tau to deal with a mutual threat. In the beginning, the verdant guard set up in orbit, sending squadrons of Hedgemages and Armsguard. Upon learning the planet had suffered extreme loses, apothecaries and keepers were sent down to tend to the wounded Verdant Guard, Human and Tau upon the planets surface. After 6 weeks of being seiged by tyrannids, the Verdant guard called in a final stand. Using their Orbit shuttles to carry as many tau and human lives as they could before retreating the astartes. Once the planet had been as evacutated as it could, the verdant guard flagship, known 'Khorvusias Vengance' readied its genesis cannons and began to fire upon the planet, eradicated all known life on the surface in the matter of hours before beginning to reseed the surface after intensive orbital bombardment. After the events of the battle, the verdant guard travelled to the nearest tau planet, leaving those they had evacuated were dropped off at the personal request of the Chapter Master.

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Genesis cannons are basically Orbital cannons meant to firstly eradicate anything that lives to wipe out mainly nids and orks before an internal seal releases plant seeds and such.

raven stone
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Back from dinner.
Aside from the “Apothecary for Inquisitors” deal, you could also borrow from Exorcist lore by saying the Verdant Guard allows the Radical Xenos Inquisition faction to operate facilities on their planet (if not outright share facilities in the Fortress Monastery.)

This is a “Pretty Big Deal of Allegiance” as well, due to (A) Astartes homeworlds normally being free from Inquisitorial businesses and (B) Astartes protection on their own homeworld is nothing to be scoffed at, even compared to any Inquisition fortresses.

grim bolt
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thoughts on the fact that a passive xenos species exist on khorvusia?

raven stone
grim bolt
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they xenos species are basically treefolk that have shown 0 signs of aggression to any vistors

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the Khrovusians claim that the Sentinels were created by the Emperor when life first grew on Khorvusia, as defenders of his children, to ensure that no threats could hurt them from real space or the warp.

raven stone
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Maybe low intelligence tribal ones then, with both the Inquisitors and Marines monitoring them for rapid evolution like Tau did.
If low intelligence Xenos, Impeirum has been known to overlook, which is exactly how T’au came to be…
…heck, fuck it.
They all set up base there to prevent another sudden Tau rising incident

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Monitor until killing is absolutely necessary, per se.

grim bolt
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My original idea for why the imperium doesn't eradicate them is

  1. they show an understanding of gothic, and are willing to listen to the inquistion, though you need to kinda treat them like ogryns, they aren't exactly smart.
  2. They emit an aura around them that calms the warp, without shutting it down, so you don't have the blank issue of everyone feeling weird, though you aren't immune to like, warp lightning bolts, but they hurt way less just for having a tree around.
  3. They are an asset, similar to the Jokaero
raven stone
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That could work then, yes

green loom
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Unresearched wildlife

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"Wildlife"

grim bolt
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'oh noo, I have to tolerate a like, tree person who is willing to listen to my commands while both protecting me from the warp AND providing food naturally grown from it? what ever shall i do'

crystal forum
green loom
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This vibe

grim bolt
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yeppp

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Unfallen my beloved.

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I prefer the choir though

crystal forum
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oh i didn't resd

grim bolt
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yeah they are a passive, and friendly plant based xenos species with a rudimentary understanding of gothic

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like you can't have philisophical debates with it, but you can tell it to like carry things and it will understand you and likely do so

crystal forum
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the imperium doesn't really care about xenos species that aren't actively harming the imperium or holding a significant portion of space as their own empire

vagrant fox
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cravers my beloved

grim bolt
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just gotta like water it sometimes, give it plenty of sunlight

spring cairn
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what if i smoke one like a blunt

raven stone
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And if anyone complains, reverse the causality.
Say the Radical Ordo Xenos Inquisitors asked the Marines to not kill them.

grim bolt
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plus hey, if you are an inquisitor, and get like stranded, you have both shelter and food constantly with you

raven stone
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It’s not like they are in a position to refuse, given our lore so far :p

grim bolt
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probably good for morale too or smth

crystal forum
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we are approaching acceptable levels of grimdark

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somebody has to get fucked by somebody somewhere

raven stone
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Here the Radical Ordo Xenos Inquisitors are fucking the Astartes Chapter. A very gentle fuck, mind you, but said Astartes are still getting fucked. Theoretically XD.

vagrant fox
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I think you just have to keep in mind that kindness has a price in warhammer 40ks

grim bolt
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I even have the imperial regiments for Khrovusia

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they have three of them!

raven stone
grim bolt
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Khorvusia Druid Corp
The druid corp is a psyker based regiment, with the most stable and trained psykers of khorvusia joining to lend medical magics and more organic warp attacks in aid to other regiments of imperial guardsman

Khorvusia Arbor Scouts
A highly trained regiment, the men and women of the Arbor Scouts are trained to travel across all different forms of terrain, remain unseen and gather as much intel as possible. Many prefer the usage of high powered bows rather then standard arms making members of the Arbor Scouts stand out among other regiments

Khorvusia Sky rippers
Trained pilots, these soliders train to fly through thick jungles and forest, using this training to rapidly go through dense areas and high fire skies to deliver supplies or provide aerial fire power.

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I was thinking the Arbor scouts having a form of Power Bow but that was really fucking stupid even if it was funny

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and it would make 0 sense due to power weapons taking ages to make

crystal forum
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you could make their lasgun look primitive

vagrant fox
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give 'em Leviathans Breath from Destiny 2

grim bolt
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I still wanna go with the bow and arrow theme for 2 reasons

  1. Less noise
  2. recoverable ammo
grim bolt
raven stone
crystal forum
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so kind of like a tanith regiment

grim bolt
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I didn't know what that was till now

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but yeah

grim bolt
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Arbor scouts tend to be away from places to resupply for long spans of time, so being able to recover your ammo is just, incredibly useful.

crystal forum
grim bolt
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yeah I would say Khrovusia for its regiments prefer quality over quantity

crystal forum
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that's ok as long as you acknowledge that they're weird lol

grim bolt
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yeah absolutely

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imagine being a regular guardsman and you are firing your lasgun, you turn your head and see another guardman using a fucking bow and arrow

raven stone
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My only hesitation would be the Druid Corps, since psykers must be given to black ships and trained by Scholastica Psykana. That and - in our lore so far - the psykers are more than likely to have been taken by the Inquisition instead.

Instead of a full Druid Psyker regiment, I would advice instead yet another bit of Inquisition squeezing every bit of value they get is “Project Druid”, where psychic natives not recruited by your Astartes Chaps are taken by training for the Inquisition, then either stay in Inquisitorial service, or released back to your other 2 regiments as specialists.

(They can keep the name Druid ofc)

crystal forum
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you can do a lot just by saying "inquisitor said so"

grim bolt
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Your Average Imperial guardsman fighting on the front lines with his lasgun before turning and seeing a an arbor scout using a bow and arrow (they might not even know what a bow and arrow is)

crystal forum
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what a weird looking lasgun

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would be weird for your guys to fight on regular front lines in that context

grim bolt
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absolutely, I was just makin a joke

crystal forum
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also you could add another detachment that fill the regular guard role

grim bolt
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yeah I can replace the druid corp with that

crystal forum
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you dont have to replace it

grim bolt
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lever action lasguns your honor

crystal forum
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that's entirely doable

grim bolt
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thats actually terrible, I am not doing that

crystal forum
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and cool

grim bolt
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'hold on, lemme crank my lever for my lasgun'

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thats such a funny image

crystal forum
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there's dumber lasguns out there

grim bolt
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yeah true true

green loom
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I mean

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I mean

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Laslocks

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Are a thing

crystal forum
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they could also just use autoguns

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which arent auto in this case i guess

grim bolt
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Khrovusian Rangers
The simplest of the Khrovusian regiments, the Rangers are known for their usage of lever action rifles. While not as specalized as the other regiments, they are still known for their accuracy, bravery, and willingness to risk themselves should it mean victory.
The rangers are noted to work incredibly well with the Valhallan ice warriors

crystal forum
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would be a cool trend for the planet's regiments to be equipped with such archaic gear

grim bolt
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honestly, yeah I agree, it makes sense

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one silly idea I had was you know how eldar used to like make wrathbone and 'forge' it and stuff

Trained Khorvusian psykers could do that with wood, so lots of wood stocks with a more natural build and shit

crystal forum
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make the regiments friends with vallahans for no reason at all, but it would make me personally happy

crystal forum
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it's a bit sad that regiments arent known for having "friend" regiments

grim bolt
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added it

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the Khorvusian rangers are like, best friends with the Valhallan Ice warriors

crystal forum
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hell yeah

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luv me valhallans

grim bolt
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'me lad over here! he may be from an icy planet, but by the emperor, he got a fire in his heart raging hotter then Nocturne!'

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oh lemme get the Verdant Guard librarian groupsss

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I have em written down somewhere

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Within the order of the Hedge mage, there are 3 primary 'schools' that librarians go into outside of being a keeper

Terramancer
Hedge mages who travel this study are masters of psychic arts that manipulate the ground. Able to create jagged rocks from the very earth to jut out at their enemies, or to create barriers that would make an imperial fist blush, the Terramancers of the Verdant guard are powerful allies for any space marines. Some members are known to creating stony creatures to fight and protect
The current leader of the Terramancers is Stone lord Veltix

Druids
Hedge mages who travel this study are masters of psychic arts that manipulate the plant life around them. They create deadly vines from the earth, call down deadly clouds of spores, and even animate trees to fight for them. The Druids of the verdant guards are masters of the plant life across all planets.
The current leaders of the druids is Archdruid Drivia

Hydromancer
Hedge mages who travel this study are masters of the psychic art that manipulates water and ice. Calling upon massive floods to drown their foes, or creating harsh ice storms to rip apart those who stand before them. The hydromancers of the Verdant guard stand with their allies as a force of the raging oceans.
The current leaders of the Hydromancers is Depth strider Ringil

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The current leader of all three factions is a human women by the name of Emeria, a psycher who joined the verdant guard when her twin brother made a simple demand to the chapter master 'I will only only join you if my sister comes with me'. As women are unable to become space marines, she was trained within the chapter and the many hedge mages of the verdant guard.

In terms of psychic might, she rivals the likes of Ahriman, though even her psychic might pales in comparison of those of magnus the red, Eldrad and Malcador.

As the leader of the hedge mages, she often speaks with High Keeper Tyvin and High Keeper Winstil on matters that involve psychers and other magical effects. In the absence of the chapter master, she is counted in the members to speak with his authority, along with other notable leaders in the chapter.

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this was some older stuff, so might need to update it all

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honeslty, I gotta put all this stuff in a doc at some point

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also a funny note, Khorvusian guardsmen aren't in shock when they see space marines, they are used to them so they don't stand in awe and are more likely to speak rather bluntly with other marines

raven stone
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You could have a unique Rough Rider regiment, if there is a fast, ride-able (yea not wording well lol) animal native to your planet.

grim bolt
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that could be fun

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maybe a type of giant gliding lizard

raven stone
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Also your regiment has a unique tool.
Yes, those motherfucking grappling hooks from Monster Hunter.

arctic talon
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LOL

grim bolt
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I can image some ranger members like fighting space marines and using the hooks and lines to trap them before disposing of them (probably with a few dying on the way)

crystal forum
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alright that's a bit above tempestus scion level

grim bolt
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I mean we have things of guardsmen killing space marines, but it was absoilutely a like

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bee vs hornet situation

grim bolt
crystal forum
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alright yeah if a bunch die that's fine

opaque coyote
grim bolt
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'yeah like 80 of died! HOWEVER we cooked em alive!'

crystal forum
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kind of goes against the elite nature no?

grim bolt
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oh real yeah

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as funny as it is,. scratch that

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I will keep the aspect of using their grappling hooks are a tool to trap enemies

opaque coyote
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It would make more sense if all of them happen to have

grim bolt
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just

opaque coyote
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Idk

grim bolt
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not space marines

opaque coyote
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Melta bombs activated and attached to them

crystal forum
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kasrkin and scions can kill space marines that's not an issue, just that they can't 1v1 them

grim bolt
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yeah, they would never win a 1v1

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it would also be not easy, it would be a whole lotta bull shit and sent up to take one down

crystal forum
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except that kasrkin guy in fall of cadia who murders khorne marines with his melta gun

opaque coyote
crystal forum
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based individual

opaque coyote
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It doesn't matter how super you are

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A beam of melta will melt you

raven stone
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On a very different note.
I think Attack on Titan doesn’t take place on Earth…?
Like, imagine those guys as a Guard regiment…

arctic talon
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well

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a fucked up version of Earth

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itsl ike all the continets irl upside down lol

celest dome
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Like just inverting north/south

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?

arctic talon
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yes

celest dome
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The 3 wall place is Eldia ?

raven stone
# arctic talon

I mean, if this is the official world, could be terraforming gone wrong instead.
Imagine Attack on Titan existing in 40k verse…

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Lots of factions will have a field day…

arctic talon
celest dome
vagrant fox
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I don't really watch anime so I'm unsure, but don't they have the Spiderman problem where they're useless on flat ground

rose thorn
shadow plover
celest dome
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Still would make them really useful on many theater of War, like if there is a Hive to conquer for example

dusk patrol
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It’s just very unlikely

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“As Scourgemaster of the Black Fleet and leader of the Hounds, he had always known that in a stand-up fight he would lose one Berzerker for every fifty Guardsmen slain – a hundred, if the thing was done right.
But these Kasrkin, they were themselves warriors of the blood. He had never seen their like outside the hated, unenlightened Chapters of the Adeptus Astartes. As his daemon-sight flew, he saw a wounded Kasrkin discharging a hellgun point-blank into a Berzerker’s lower abdomen – his bayonet broken on the power armour. A sergeant with a power sword counter-charged against a whole file of Lazcare’s pack, taking down one with his plasma pistol before a chainaxe split him shoulder to hip.
Several streets over, a line of bunker habs four blocks long lifted into the air in a curtain of flame, tearing apart forty warriors from Pergaza’s contingent. The mortals had contested the buildings until the Khornates stormed it, then triggered pre-rigged explosives. The Cadians had baited his warriors inside then sacrificed their own lives to annihilate them.
Count our dead to theirs,’ he said to Artesia, and she flashed off his shoulders and circled. ‘How steep is the butcher’s bill?’
‘One Hound for every thirty mortal dead, master! They are standing unto death, bringing your warriors with them into the blood-sleep.’
‘And they say the Adeptus Astartes know no fear. Even the Corpse-Emperor’s sons do not throw away their lives with such wantonness. One Hound for every thirty. It is unthinkable. Perverse."

vagrant fox
storm jungle
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Banned.

dusk patrol
# storm jungle I hate being reminded of this.

The virgin “Oh I gotta make sure this world and geography are distinct and make sense and also aren’t too much like the other worlds in fiction while looking nice and easy to see” world builder

vs

The Chad Isayama “I took map and flipped it upside down lol”

dusk patrol
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(Most of the map is irrelevant, the vast majority of the story takes place on one stupid small island and a single city on the mainland)

vagrant fox
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I don't know why I'm disappointed in a space marine name, but here I am

storm jungle
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Corvidae was taken sorry

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best we can do

opaque coyote
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Like if AOT took place ~20 years later, Eren's giant Colossal Titan Wall would've been nuked

dusk patrol
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Possibly, AoT tech isn't totally consistent with ours.

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It still would have killed a lot of people though, at best.

storm jungle
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Literally budget AOT Titans which is funny

outer wave
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Worm like xenos
Big giant humanoid man

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Oh its a possessed victim interesting

storm jungle
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Yeeeee

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tho not much to it beyond that, its like one random alien mention in the xenology book

outer wave
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Wait does it just make random humans giant?

opaque coyote
outer wave
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Or did it possess a giant?

storm jungle
outer wave
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Thats so cool

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Why dont we see more of those?

storm jungle
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Because they are basically a throwaway alien race because the xenology book needed material.

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Also uncreative writers which is kinda the norm

outer wave
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Fair

storm jungle
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Its why only hear of like Hrud for the 13506th instead of something else lol

opaque coyote
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no figures about

dapper gyro
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AoT army has WW1 tech with 1/10 of the number of WW1.

storm jungle
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Again though throwaway line, its to mostly help with homebrew if fans/writers wanna include them in stuff.

dusk patrol
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But they never get mentioned so who knows, but they had a huge empire on an older map.

storm jungle
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Its very much not a main one.

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Again its a throwaway mention.

dusk patrol
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It was the largest empire besides the IoM

storm jungle
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Yeah and we hear of them once

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so lol

raven stone
dusk patrol
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Yes I said that

storm jungle
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Yes I know, catch up.

storm jungle
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which... well makes sense because it also formed from said IPs so lol

raven stone
opaque coyote
dusk patrol
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Devastation of Baal I'm fairly certain has a Erwin reference as a character.

dapper gyro
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Celestine is a magical girl

storm jungle
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All the fanart definitely helps

dusk patrol
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Ephrael Stern is the 40k magical girl

dusk patrol
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Celestine, less so. Stern is just straight up anime.

storm jungle
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Celestine is definitely on the same tier

dapper gyro
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I forgot about Stern.

storm jungle
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her book is about as anime

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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Nah Stern is way beyond her in what she does

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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Stern kinda breaks the setting.

storm jungle
arctic talon
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Stern is much more anime then Celestine and its hilarious

storm jungle
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also like magic in 40k has no cap

dusk patrol
storm jungle
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so theres not exactly a limit for it

dusk patrol
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Celestine mostly just hits people with her sword and dies a lot, shes powerful but shes very standard Living Saint. Stern is just, absolutely bonkers.

storm jungle
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Stern does the same she just uses a bolt pistol and sword.

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like

dapper gyro
storm jungle
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I read her entire comic series and have it saved

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its pretty much more or less the same

dusk patrol
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Stern blasts whole armies in the fucking pariah nexus with her powers still.

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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And Celestine does the same, we got literal art of it

forest orbit
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Faith Powers or whatever are literal anime magic to begin with tbh

dusk patrol
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I disagreed but whatever, the point is 40k has magical girls

storm jungle
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And I didnt care the first time but whatever

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anyway

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basically anime magic shit is anime magic shit

raven stone
dusk patrol
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Well you obviously did cause you kept arguing it

storm jungle
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I mean

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arent you doing the same thing

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as ever

dusk patrol
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I didn't say I didn't care

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Now kith

arctic talon
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I don't really qualify celestine as it

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tbh

storm jungle
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Id rather shoot myself than do that 💀

arctic talon
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I do classify stern though

dusk patrol
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Kiss the pigeon you bigot

forest orbit
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Its kinda the same thing

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like

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its basically "not-faith power"

arctic talon
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I mean yeah but the presentation

opaque coyote
# forest orbit Faith Powers or whatever are literal anime magic to begin with tbh

"Buried, she was revived by the gift given to her by her fallen sisters, a light of the warp but not of the warp. Ephrael finally embraced her power and defeated a Culexus Assassin, overwhelming its abilities with her own. Ephrael Stern was last seen traveling with an Eldar known as the Pariah to the Black Library, using her abilities to access the webway. Though the Ordo believes she presents an extreme danger to the Imperium, and has issued orders for her destruction, some members of the Ordo think she might be Mankind's greatest hope since the Primarchs."

arctic talon
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is what matters more imo

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also Celestine gets fucked by Nulls

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unlike Stern who uh

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idk

storm jungle
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Golden glowing light vs blue glowing light is uh

arctic talon
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Sterns funny

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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Celestine dies a lot

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Its kinda her thing

forest orbit
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Suffering builds character

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Same with Stern

storm jungle
arctic talon
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lol

storm jungle
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too true

arctic talon
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The torture sphere

opaque coyote
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Imagine her basically speaking like Female Duke Nukem

storm jungle
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Her weakness is nobody likes her because shes a female

dusk patrol
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Stern uses her power to overwhelm a Culexus and blast it with psychic power.

forest orbit
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She also has a Harlequin boyfriend which is nice

dusk patrol
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Fuck I actually forgot how goofy those comics get.

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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The Pariah Nexus stuff is just the cherry on top

storm jungle
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dont forget they also hold arms and go to the Black Library together lol

opaque coyote
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I'm an equal opportunity ass kicker

forest orbit
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Man that part lol

storm jungle
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Yeah and it was actually left as a cliffhanger for awhile

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because uhhh

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Warhammer Monthly got canned

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so we didnt get an answer as to what the fuck happened for years

raven stone
opaque coyote
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I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna KICK YOUR ASS.

storm jungle
forest orbit
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They mde out later.

storm jungle
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so yep

dusk patrol
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Hence the Culexus assassin coming after her.

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And a lot of other stuff.

storm jungle
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Her entire series is a big can of worms

forest orbit
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She does a lot that much i do remember

storm jungle
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Yeah thats one way to put it lol

dusk patrol
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She gets hunted by Malleus Inquisitors and Ahriman and other chaos forces.

forest orbit
storm jungle
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Well "went"

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but yeah lol

dusk patrol
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Currently shes tangling with Szeras whose very annoyed by the fact that her powers work in the Nexus and wants to study her, but can't get her.

storm jungle
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its a nutty series but probably one of my favs

forest orbit
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Yeah I remember following it after finding random pictures of it online

opaque coyote
forest orbit
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I was curious about the source at first then fell down a rabbit hole

storm jungle
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Yeah thats usually how uh

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most people find her comics lol

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at least pre-pariah nexus

dapper gyro
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I will check the stuff out tonight

vagrant fox
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I should read more about mrs Stern, it seems

forest orbit
arctic talon
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I found out about her comic

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after I saw the mini

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LOL

dusk patrol
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Its a fairly short comic series

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And then theres the Nexus stuff.

forest orbit
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I wouldnt say fairly

storm jungle
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Yeah its not that short

dusk patrol
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So not a ton to read.

storm jungle
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it definitely would take a bit

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but also it was a part of warhammer monthly so lol

forest orbit
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Pouring one out 🥃

storm jungle
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It wont be missed it was CRINGE

forest orbit
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Rude

storm jungle
dapper gyro
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As a former manga consumer, it sounds short.

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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It wasnt mainline so yeah

dusk patrol
storm jungle
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They were far away during the "recent" lore events

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Stern's entire deal was the Nexus

dusk patrol
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Stern has only been active in recent events in the Nexus

storm jungle
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Celestine was fucked off somewhere else dealing with the plot of that dumb Alpha Legion book

dusk patrol
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And it was a brieft bit

storm jungle
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Well its AL

dusk patrol
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Might come up again as the story moves to Nexus

storm jungle
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you either get gold or you get crap

forest orbit
storm jungle
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It wasnt bad but yeah lol

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her appearance in it was still funny

forest orbit
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Im sure people werent upset by it

storm jungle
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Uhhh unless you're a hardcore sororitas fan no not really

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(trust me I know)

forest orbit
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That bad huh

storm jungle
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Yes thumbsup_ogryn

forest orbit
storm jungle
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Its fine uhh

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sororitas fans are usually on the better side of the spectrum

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but theres definitely a lot of bad ones

forest orbit
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I have met a few in the past

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I used to interact in their main server a lot once KEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
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Same but i mostly left because bad mods

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also the bonk spam was annoying

dusk patrol
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Also Daemonifuge has 80 pages, thats a short series unless you have some kinda reading disability.

storm jungle
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among uhhh other stuff

forest orbit
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Yeaaaah

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I have seen some of it myself tho i wonder if they are still there

storm jungle
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Id check but i cant be arsed

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but ill assume its the case lol

forest orbit
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Yeet

storm jungle
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I had my fun while in there especially during their revamp though

forest orbit
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THAT period was good

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Especially after how long the faction was ignored

storm jungle
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Man dont get me started

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those old minis eurgh

forest orbit
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I dont think they are that bad

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but

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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They are extremely aged

opaque coyote
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all of them

forest orbit
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Yeah lmao

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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Thats why its a spectrum

forest orbit
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Yeah and its why 40k fans are the worst part of it

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I know because I am one

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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Extra apologies to you @forest orbit for this one

forest orbit
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Lemme watch

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LMFAO THE FUCKING CHART

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Also extra points for using atun shei, hes great love his civil war videos

storm jungle
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Happy to help lol

forest orbit
#

Yeah im saving this

vagrant fox
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He's a weird fellow, fun to watch though

storm jungle
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Im glad he atleast acknowledges hes weird

forest orbit
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to quote the man himself

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"let me watch my puppet porn in peace"

storm jungle
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But yeah swell guy otherwise.

forest orbit
#

I should give his stuff a rewatch sometime, the Checkmate Linconites stuff is soooo good

storm jungle
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Im not a huge history gal myself but its one of the few pieces of american lore media i can watch funnily enough

opaque coyote
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and it is funny

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and slightly unsettling

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but mostly funny

forest orbit
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Its definitely a comedy video with a good message

vagrant fox
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History is good for your brain, and philosophy. You gotta balance out the warhammer brainrot

forest orbit
# opaque coyote 100%

I mostly say it because this fandom has very much made me hate people a lot at certain points

opaque coyote
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Although tbh it is funny purely because of the guy trying to take over the room like it's a fucking country.

forest orbit
opaque coyote
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I want a sequel with a communist/soviet roommate now

forest orbit
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Same. I do wonder what hes gonna do now

storm jungle
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This is his latest video

forest orbit
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Yoooooo

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Nosferatu centric huh ill give it a watch, the movie was awesome so this could be neat.

storm jungle
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It helps that the director is a huge history nut

vagrant fox
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Maybe I should watch that movie, but I've fulfilled by yearly 3 movie quota

forest orbit
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HIGHLY recommend it

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its not high art but its really good

storm jungle
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Also it has Willem Dafoe

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if that isnt a selling point idk what is

forest orbit
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👆

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Do it for the memes.

outer wave
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As a pussy ass dude that doesnt do well with scary movies, is it a recommended watch?

vagrant fox
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I watched the 3 Sonic movies for Jim Carrey, I can watch another for mr Dafoe

forest orbit
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You say it like thats a bad thing

forest orbit
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It is as much of a history piece as much as a vampire one

vagrant fox
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It's a lot of bother to watch movies, I've entirely dropped television years ago

forest orbit
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Yeah preach

forest orbit
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You can kinda tell when the scares are also gonna come so you can prepare accordingly

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it has like 3-4 and thats it really, id super recommend it

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it also just has Nosferatu as the monster so a mustachio vampire is probably not gonna give you nightmares lol

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Hes definitely creepy but like yeah

dusk patrol
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It’s more gross than scary

forest orbit
#

Its definitely scary.

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It just depends on how much you can take it tbh

vagrant fox
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The monsterfucker women were enamoured, this I know

forest orbit
#

^

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This is a positive btw

dusk patrol
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They’re always enamored

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It’s disturbing and uncomfortable

storm jungle
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Yeah its peak.

outer wave
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Monster fucker women when they see a vaguely humanoid monster with a mustache

dusk patrol
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It does its job there

storm jungle
vagrant fox
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You should've said it was uncomfortable, I love uncomfortable movies

spare osprey
dusk patrol
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If you’ve seen the Light House or VVitch its similar to that

vagrant fox
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I watched the Lobster like twice, a movie record for the last ten years

storm jungle
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or homoeroticism

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but close enough i guess

outer wave
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Light House was great

late osprey
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what type of 40k fan is the most aristocratic? i would say unaligned ones, but nid fans have got to be pretty up there as well

forest orbit
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I liked it when Dafoe asked about his lobsters

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HAAAAARK

dusk patrol
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Norseman was very off brand for Eggers in terms of the disturbing stuff, still good but yeah

spare osprey
forest orbit
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theres a lot

dusk patrol
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Looking forward to his stuff as always

dusk patrol
vagrant fox
dusk patrol
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Aristocrats being generally wealthy

late osprey
# forest orbit In what way?

like if we consider BT and DKoK fans to be of the lowest quality, that implies there is a top caste of 40k fans

forest orbit
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theres a medium point then theres the low levels tbh

vagrant fox
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top caste is whoever has my tastes

forest orbit
#

Like...

spare osprey
dusk patrol
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If you wanna put people into boxes sure

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I personally don’t so

forest orbit
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if I had to pick its probably Ork fans

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also Nids

late osprey
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Ork fans thats right

forest orbit
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Because their factions are largely hordes of monsters

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and they arent elitist pricks

vagrant fox
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Nah it's that World Eaters guy who was shadowboxing at that one tournament

forest orbit
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LOL

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Good one

spare osprey
forest orbit
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"I dont put people into boxes"

late osprey
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I was thinking chaos but too many of them regurgitate that weird magnus take of chaos like it's gospel

dusk patrol
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I’m gonna put you in a real box

forest orbit
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people still seperate themselves into boxes

forest orbit
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like

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ive met A LOT of cool chaos fans

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but theres about as many annoying ones

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the Imperium spectrum is very much the worst and the most 50/50 though

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Because human factions in sci-fi settings are uhh yeah lol

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But this is if you ask me the rank them

dusk patrol
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I personally think the most annoying Warhammer fans are the ones who obsess over whose worst or best, those guys tend to be pretty toxic

forest orbit
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I usually try not to but people make it difficult

vagrant fox
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I just want to be violently xenophobic and treat everyone like shit, why do the racists flock to my faction

forest orbit
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lol

late osprey
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idk, eternal reward 82915655 is pretty far gone if you ask me

storm jungle
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Well

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he is an iron hands fan

forest orbit
#

could be worse

vagrant fox
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I stand with Eternal 🫡

forest orbit
#

it could be Black Templars

storm jungle
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Truuuuue

late osprey
forest orbit
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🫡

dusk patrol
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Somehow I’ve done fine by just not liking people based off how they act and not what their favorite plastic fake faction is

green loom
dusk patrol
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But hey

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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That’s a tall order I guess

forest orbit
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its about being a normal person

dusk patrol
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It is

forest orbit
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Its really not

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You're doing it again

dusk patrol
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That’s literally what y’all are saying

forest orbit
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Ugh

dusk patrol
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I’m saying just treat people well enough until they’re assholes

forest orbit
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I mean I tr yto

dusk patrol
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Uh huh

forest orbit
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then they turn out to be bad people lol

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who for some reason like, you know

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always are either imperial guard or space marine fans for some reason

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very weird huh

storm jungle
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I feel like you are just being delusional

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obviously

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also /s

dusk patrol
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I’m sure you do

forest orbit
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Yeah I got a lot of imaginary friends believe me.

late osprey
forest orbit
dusk patrol
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No it makes me generally right though

forest orbit
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acting like these people dont exist

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and always generalises

dusk patrol
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Damn where did I say that

forest orbit
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Idk why

dusk patrol
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Oh yeah I’m generalizing

storm jungle
#

I mean you are.

late osprey
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for one, obviously the very nature of the conversation is tongue-in-cheek by its very nature, nobody actually believes in a literal IRL fan caste system. it's rather telling that you take even the most absurd subjects at face value

dusk patrol
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Ok lol

late osprey
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second, even if you disagree, there's not really any reason to constantly reiterate how enlightened you are

dusk patrol
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When it’s super easy to not

forest orbit
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I mea

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then why are imperium fans so weird

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and why is it always them on the frontlines of being toxic

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or you know, chuds

dusk patrol
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I’m the one generalizing btw

forest orbit
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...

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You literally are.

dusk patrol
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Ok

forest orbit
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Your stance is "Its not a specific faction's group faults, it can be anyone"

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thats generalising lol

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like seriously, what is the matter with you

dusk patrol
#

I think the point is proven for itself

forest orbit
#

Yeah it definitely has

late osprey
forest orbit
#

^

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This conversation can always be civil, we are mostly joking around. You are the one taking it so seriously.

dusk patrol
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It’s not joking around when people actually apply it here and always get toxic or bash people for it

late osprey
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in the arena of obtusity i dont think there is a greater champion than you

dusk patrol
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It’s “joking around”

forest orbit
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Yet it remains somewhat correct.

late osprey
#

eli LITERALLY has a BT pfp

dusk patrol
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Yes like I said lol

late osprey
#

and i dont see him getting crucified

forest orbit
dusk patrol
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You want it both ways

forest orbit
#

I literally have people question me on this

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assuming im a chud

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I wonder why thats the case

dusk patrol
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“It’s a joke but also it’s true and I believe it”

forest orbit
#

totally not BT fans always being fucking nutjobs

dusk patrol
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It’s so dishonest, at least own it

forest orbit
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You really dont

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You just make strawmans, be semantic and be argumentative.

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Its always what you do.

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Its the same song and dance, I dont mind it but at least own to it.

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🤷‍♂️

dusk patrol
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You never have an substance so you throw out some buzzwords to try to distract from the fact you’re just being a toxic prick judging people ahead of time for their favorite plastic soldier army

forest orbit
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Whats a buzzword.

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What am I throwing out.

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Also calm down lol

dusk patrol
#

“Oh semantics, strawman!” Where?

forest orbit
#

...

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Whats the matter with you lol

late osprey
#

in reality, eternal reward 82915655 is enjoying 40k as it was always meant: the tagline is "Only War" after all

forest orbit
#

Sounds about right.

dusk patrol
#

I don’t like people being toxic pricks

forest orbit
#

Yet you are being one right now.

late osprey
#

truly a defender of the meek

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get off your high horse and just chill out lmao

forest orbit
#

^

late osprey
#

not everything is a battle for the soul of mankind

forest orbit
#

Just to be clear

dusk patrol
#

Anyways my points been proven well enough, keep discussing how you’re joking about making fun of a pre judging people for faction preferences but also not actually

forest orbit
#

Im not saying like

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"All BT fans are toxic so all of them are bad"

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Im just saying some faction fans are very much worse than others.

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If you dont want to accept this I dont know what to tell you.

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🤷‍♂️

opaque coyote
forest orbit
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Definitely.

late osprey
#

its sorta like a venom situation

forest orbit
late osprey
#

the faction becomes a symbiote

dusk patrol
#

Whatever you need to do to prejudge people my guy, you’re allowed to do that

forest orbit
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I mean yes, I am.

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Im literally a black templar fan lol

dusk patrol
#

Yes I know

forest orbit
#

contary to you always assuming im not for some reason

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which itself is kinda dickish but okay

dusk patrol
#

Because you just use it as a shield from criticism for being toxic

forest orbit
#

....

late osprey
#

didnt you just say your points were proven and that we were allowed to go back to having fun again?

forest orbit
#

When have I been toxic?

opaque coyote
forest orbit
#

After making like... 4-5 "final" statements.

late osprey
#

"AND ANOTHER THING..."

glossy sonnet
forest orbit
#

Eternal is the real John Grammaticus.

late osprey
#

anti-fun police rolling up

opaque coyote
#

My favorite faction is probably the T'au. Which is probably why I'm brain damage-

forest orbit
#

Nah Tau are cool.

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Im just not a fan of them

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but thats allowed isnt it

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just making sure

opaque coyote
#

Yeah dw mate

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It's either the T'au or Chaos. Kinda flip flop between the two.

green loom
#

I'm hemaphobic

forest orbit
#

Tau is the only faction I never really got into but thats mostly because their lore is kinda whatever for me.

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I have some nice people in a group im in that sells me on them sometimes which is neat.

opaque coyote
#

As for what Chaos faction specifically? Idk, call me undivided because I think all of them are cool

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Although I fuck with Khorne the most. Blood.

forest orbit
#

Also fair lol

glossy sonnet
#

call me iron warriors cause I think all of them suck

opaque coyote
#

how do I say this

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I hate talking to people

forest orbit
#

Yeah I can understand that

opaque coyote
#

Also I'd probably fuck up painting

glossy sonnet
#

they dont really have depth

forest orbit
#

Hey

glossy sonnet
#

just corrupted or mustache twirling evil

forest orbit
#

Thats what CSM are best at

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They are grimdark decepticons

glossy sonnet
#

fabius bile is the only cool one

crystal forum
#

just a few years away from GW releasing a tabletop app to play against bots

forest orbit
#

I hope not...

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Actually maybe I do

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I hate playing against people

crystal forum
#

sales go up 500%

opaque coyote
late osprey
#

chaos is my favorite, but specifically only undivided chaos aspects

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i never really got into the whole costumed power rangers aspect

opaque coyote
#

It's just up to you whether you want them to be like modern Decepticons

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or

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G1 Decepticons

late osprey
#

He's the Red Ranger, he likes Khorne and Anger and stuff!

opaque coyote
#

"You're either lying, or you're stupid."

"I'm stupid! I'm stupid!"

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Who would be Starscream for Abaddon btw

late osprey
#

if i had to pick a canon legion to champion, it'd probably be word bearers

glossy sonnet
forest orbit
#

Liking all of them is usually easier unless one REALLY rings for you

green loom
forest orbit
#

Erebus also is up there

glossy sonnet
crystal forum
#

i just dislike all chaos chadgryn

late osprey
#

sorry, but khorne fans are the lowest caste of the chaos fans

glossy sonnet
#

Haarken?

forest orbit
#

Harken is like whatever

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Hes too new

late osprey
#

but only because i find their whole "Khorne would NEVER use guns" shtick super annoying

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

Haarken is loyal

forest orbit
#

well "new"

arctic talon
#

Tbh

opaque coyote
#

VIOLENCE

arctic talon
#

He’s existed in lore

glossy sonnet
#

true

arctic talon
#

Since like 5e lol

forest orbit
arctic talon
#

But he’s just been irrelevant

glossy sonnet
#

falkus is loyal too

#

idk then

arctic talon
#

Until he got a mini

late osprey
opaque coyote
#

And like the swell guy he is

#

He constantly overcharges it

crystal forum
#

there's no reason for them to not use guns

glossy sonnet
#

In abaddons case, everyone is kinda a starscream

arctic talon
#

Lol

forest orbit
#

Well

#

Ok not that incorrect

arctic talon
#

Most chaos champions

#

Are the opposite of trustworthy

late osprey
#

What It's Like is my 40k-gospel piece

arctic talon
#

Tbh

late osprey
#

even if its not even strictly canon

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it just creates such an awesome setting for chaos

arctic talon
#

No one has the balls to actually try and betray abbadon lol

opaque coyote
forest orbit
#

Even if they do they get bodied.

arctic talon
#

Yeah

forest orbit
#

but thats on them for being stupid

late osprey
#

in SM2 the marines really do be sounding like autobots and decepticons

forest orbit
#

"YOU WONT GET AWAY WITH THIS IMURAH"

#

"DIE ULTRAMARIIIINES"

#

ahhh dialogue

#

Instead of a gun he turns into a disc in this case

arctic talon
#

LOL

#

Who was the chaos lord from SM1

forest orbit
#

Nemeroth

glossy sonnet
#

If we're talking heresy, horus is basically megatron, erebus is starscream, and ig abaddon is soundwave

dapper gyro
#

SM2 is a cheesy game

arctic talon
#

Bring him back in SM2 dlc or whatever

#

Lol

opaque coyote
forest orbit
#

he had like barely some lore pre-SM1

forest orbit
arctic talon
#

Since he does try to betray Horus

#

He just loses the fight

#

Because Horus was omega juiced

glossy sonnet
#

Fabulous Bill is Shockwave

dapper gyro
#

SM1 was half canon until SM2.

opaque coyote
forest orbit
#

mostly to excuse Titus' existence

arctic talon
#

I’m of the opinion archaea is actually a daemon

late osprey
#

something something everything is canon, not everything is true

arctic talon
#

And is wearing the real dudes skin

#

There’s 0 shot he lived vigilus

crystal forum
#

im building my deredeo and i still can't figure out where tf the sarcophagus fits

arctic talon
#

He was missing an Arm

#
  • surrounded by daemons and daemon engines and csm and possesed
#

Bro absolutely died

arctic talon
#

The head isn’t actually a marine head

forest orbit
#

^

arctic talon
#

It’s a sensor array

crystal forum
#

i KNOW

forest orbit
#

DO YOU

arctic talon
#

Unless it’s murderfang

#

Which is

crystal forum
#

but even if laying down there's no room

forest orbit
#

There is

arctic talon
#

Yeah there is

#

Cut off more parts

forest orbit
#

remember the guy in there is a torso

#

^

crystal forum
#

i have the model right here go fuck yaself

arctic talon
#

Also vehicles are proportioned differently

#

From infantry minis

forest orbit
#

Fuck you Jay

#

STOP BEING LIKE THIS

crystal forum
#

nah fack you

arctic talon
#

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

crystal forum
forest orbit
#

Damn i got no gun emotes

dapper gyro
#

Just 2 dudes trying to fuck each other.

crystal forum
forest orbit
#

Astartes fan ritual

crystal forum
#

this server literally has one

forest orbit
green loom
arctic talon
#

I like the comically one sided turf wars in monster hunter

opaque coyote
forest orbit
#

STOP

arctic talon
#

Mostly because it’s hilarious watching the weaker monster get absolutely bodied and tossed around

glossy sonnet
dusk patrol
#

So it’s less than just a torso and head often

crystal forum
dapper gyro
opaque coyote
forest orbit
#

Bruh you are a space marine

dusk patrol
#

It’s almost like robocop
level

opaque coyote
#

my favorite

vagrant fox
#

You don't need more than a sack of organs, a spine, and a brain

crystal forum
forest orbit
arctic talon
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SM2 has like

forest orbit
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but also its 40k, inconsistency is the name of the game

arctic talon
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Really bad scaling issues

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Lol

forest orbit
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^

arctic talon
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Don’t look at the background

crystal forum
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that's what i said

forest orbit
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a baneblade has a crew of like 12 people lol

arctic talon
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The Russ’s are bigger then the baneblades

dusk patrol
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It’s a lot smaller than it should be in that yeah

crystal forum
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like my penis

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Well

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It being bigger would be cooler

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The baneblade never actually physically moves

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It’s a prop

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They could have made it bigger

crystal forum
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in a soul drinker book a militarum general has a personal office in his baneblade

dusk patrol
crystal forum
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the one on top is a bit too big

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on bottom is just right

arctic talon
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Yeah

dusk patrol
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They’re not all the same size

arctic talon
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But it’s cool

vagrant fox
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The top one would fit a small office though

dusk patrol
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Is one aspect of it

late osprey
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ah the baneblade, everyone's favorite light scouting vehicle

dusk patrol
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It was never a scout tank

arctic talon
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Oh yeah my favorite lore is knock off version of vehicles

crystal forum
arctic talon
late osprey
dusk patrol
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The worst variety of meme lore behind Orks thinking anything into existence

late osprey
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knight titans were garden implements

arctic talon
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Tbf

dusk patrol
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They were sorta

arctic talon
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The titan chainswords were for logging

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Lol

dusk patrol
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They were multi tools

late osprey
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also who's getting put into the scribing box?

dusk patrol
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But primarily they were there for defense yes

arctic talon
late osprey
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what do you think he's writing about in there?

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his novel?

dusk patrol
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Battle logs

crystal forum
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at least the terminator armour coming from dark age human sized colony suits is still cool

arctic talon
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Unironically Prolly ammo expenditure

vagrant fox
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Someone has to record kill tallies for posterity

arctic talon
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And yeah battle logs

dusk patrol
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The EOD aspect did

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But the armor itself was made as it is

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They weren’t running around in armor like that

arctic talon
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Terminator armor was heavily based on DAOT stuff

dapper gyro
dusk patrol
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Just their suits had the same environmental protection

crystal forum
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still it was usable by regular humans

arctic talon
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Well yeah

dusk patrol
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It was but it wasn’t terminator armor

crystal forum
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which is kinda weird since i have never seen one found from that era

arctic talon
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They make human terminator armor as well

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It’s just like

dusk patrol
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It was suits which had very good radiation protection

arctic talon
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For really rich people

dusk patrol
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They weren’t the same thing

crystal forum
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doesn't the land raider come from the same concept

dusk patrol
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The environmental armor was made into a combat suit which uses its environmental resilience

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Land Raider was made wholesale I think

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I can’t recall if it’s mentioned it used anything

arctic talon
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Land raider was designed by Land from an STC he found

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The original Land Raider could fly

crystal forum
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it was a vehicle made to survive hostile environments which it still does to this day

arctic talon
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It was an actual grav vehicle

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Land couldn’t reproduce that

crystal forum
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where does the land tractor lore factor in

dusk patrol
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Yeah, Leman Russ was developed from something less tank like too iirc

arctic talon
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The only “original” land raider

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Was uh

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Lands own

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Which was the STC/archeotech

arctic talon
crystal forum
vagrant fox
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malcadore came before

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and some HH rulebooks act like the imperium developped the leman russ

vagrant fox
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again, newer lore twists it around

late osprey
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does the scout titan really scout?

crystal forum
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the warhound?

arctic talon
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I mean

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I guess it’s a scout in titan on titan warfare

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Lol

crystal forum
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i think leman russ coming from an STC is retar lord so i'm still going to ignore it

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what's the community's fascination with scout vehicles

arctic talon
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Idk

late osprey
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in the grim darkness, there's only collecting data

arctic talon
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Because GW’s made like

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No actual minis

crystal forum
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yeah there's no light or medium tanks

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currently at least

late osprey
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also whose idea was it to create a power armor pattern that doesnt have a neck

dusk patrol