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So how they do it is.
They exploit the verdant guards humanity and care for people, particularly the people of Khorvusia
they will overlook the strange anomolies of the chapter and of the planet, in exchange, the verdant guard will be requested to take on some of the harshest conditions
hence, exploiting the chapters high tolerance for disease and toxins and their partial regeneration.
And before you panic about the tithe issue: Marine homeworld are generally speaking exempt from any levy of human tithes (which should include psykers due to, well, librarians)
Khorvusia isn't a marine worl
its largely a massive forest that does have huge oceans.
that's only if they contribute to the imperium in some other way. if your chapter is forced to be an inquisitor's pawn then they could get some tithing made smaller
inquisitors have a lot of sway if you want
the planrt is about 55% ocean, 45% forest.
Is their fortress monastery there and do they recruit from it
If yes to both, it's a marine homeworld
they do recruit from Khorvusia primarily and they have a place for themselves on khorvusia yeah
I mean, any world that a Marine decides to base their Base of Ops from could be a Marine homeworld.
The Exorcists, for example, have a Feral world…
And yea, all you need is a Fortress Monastery and recruit from it. Planet itself can be anything.
would be funny if your chapter has some random tiny planet listed as their home world in the administratum books so their main planet isn't fucked with
Okay so
Verdant guard are still in the imperium, with Khorvusia as their marine world.
They largely work under the inquisition under threat but still work with other legions (still hate iron hands, love them salamanders and raven guard)
Khorvusia doesn't send human tithes to black ships due to marine world (the citizens still willingly have guard regiments they send to the imperium to help out)
Khorvusia still pays tithes in food and medicine
Inquisition ignores their past, the strange changes in their chapter, and the strange nature of the planet itself (the native xenos species as well) due to the continued work of the verdant guard
you have to make sure they're very obedient and useful to some inquisitors for all their secrets to be kept that way
yeah, they will accept basically any missions the inquisition demands of them without complaints (even if they do wanna whinge)
and also, having basically the best medics around on instant call is useful you know
probably the verdant guard basically need to send inquisitors apothecaries, as like a personal battle medic.
Can blow the head off an enemy while tending to your wounds.
alright now that's some cool lore
Yeah, the verdant guard are like
the top 0.01% of apothocaries.
so the inquistion demanding like personal medics makes a lot of sense
i meant sending bodyguards for inquisitors. that's a small thing for a chapter to do but you rarely see it done out of honor and such
it shows your chapter's allegiance
yeah then it change it
the verdant guard basically willingly offer apothocaries to the inquistion
as a show of 'We do trust you and thank you for working with us and keeping out secrets'
Personal med support for a conclave would be pretty on brand
also, I should explain how the verdant guard regenerate, because I call it the half system
so if a marine gets their hand and forearm like blown off, they could restore those over a recovery time.
but if his entire arm gets blow off, only the upper arm is coming back
and it is NOT instant, major injuries can take time to recover
Axolotl shit but you know, not instant because thats some bullshit
is there a purpose to this mutation, story wise
Reduction in the need for dreadnoughts.
the chapter is relatively small, so they want to ensure that their marines can survive longer
right so your chapter is small and very elite, that works
and being able to recover like missing limbs and organs slowly at least ensures you don't need to put you in the forever box or just recover it entirely.
how do you explain the small size of the chapter
Well, they were basically originally made up of just a small group of loyalist death guard
so they didn't have much gene seed to work with, they have been able to recreate some extra ones, but it is a long process that isn't guaranteed work out
its like
'oh yeah we can get more geneseed for a single marine, but it will take a few decades at minimum and it might just..not work'
alright that's all kosher
do you have any particular engagements you thought of so far
I have two of them rn I think, I might have another
but these are kinda old now so might be weird
Battle of 3 sieges.
the Verdant guard had taken up a fortified position on a forest planet being besieged by forces of deathguard, world eaters and iron warriors. for 3 years, the 4th Arbour legion was bound to the mountains, using their fortified position and numerous passage ways to strike back against the chaos legions. Eventually, the supplies had run dry however. In a final bid, Arbor Scout Eldiner used himself as bait for the chaos forces, leading them away from the mountain. On his person he carried an explosive payload with enough power to level the area. Giving time for his squad to flee, he was eventually cornered before activating the payload, takin himself with the chaos forces. His bravery was never forgotten as a statue built in his honor and placed within the fortress monestary of Khorvusia
the 10 day march
The 10 day march followed a battle gone poorly on a death world. A human settlement was being attacked by Orcs, and with the verdant guard being the only chapter there, and already in few numbers, they decided it was best to evacuate the civilians. The nearest way to leave the planet was the Verdant Guard Arbor Fortress, which for an astartes, was a 10 day walk, but having a group of 20+ civilians would cause the journey to be significantly more difficult. to keep time short, the verdant guard began to carry the civilians, true to their gentle giant nature. through night and day, and with all the harsh terrain of the death world, the verdant guard made it to the arbor fortress, resupplying and beginning to fly the civilians of the death world, staying behind to ensure that the arbor fortress would not be unmanned
final one will absolutely need updates though, very heresy and stuff
Battle of the Genesis Ultimatum
Upon a tau world besieged by Tyrannids, the Verdant Guard came to the aid of the Tau to deal with a mutual threat. In the beginning, the verdant guard set up in orbit, sending squadrons of Hedgemages and Armsguard. Upon learning the planet had suffered extreme loses, apothecaries and keepers were sent down to tend to the wounded Verdant Guard, Human and Tau upon the planets surface. After 6 weeks of being seiged by tyrannids, the Verdant guard called in a final stand. Using their Orbit shuttles to carry as many tau and human lives as they could before retreating the astartes. Once the planet had been as evacutated as it could, the verdant guard flagship, known 'Khorvusias Vengance' readied its genesis cannons and began to fire upon the planet, eradicated all known life on the surface in the matter of hours before beginning to reseed the surface after intensive orbital bombardment. After the events of the battle, the verdant guard travelled to the nearest tau planet, leaving those they had evacuated were dropped off at the personal request of the Chapter Master.
Genesis cannons are basically Orbital cannons meant to firstly eradicate anything that lives to wipe out mainly nids and orks before an internal seal releases plant seeds and such.
Back from dinner.
Aside from the “Apothecary for Inquisitors” deal, you could also borrow from Exorcist lore by saying the Verdant Guard allows the Radical Xenos Inquisition faction to operate facilities on their planet (if not outright share facilities in the Fortress Monastery.)
This is a “Pretty Big Deal of Allegiance” as well, due to (A) Astartes homeworlds normally being free from Inquisitorial businesses and (B) Astartes protection on their own homeworld is nothing to be scoffed at, even compared to any Inquisition fortresses.
that could work yeah
thoughts on the fact that a passive xenos species exist on khorvusia?
That might be borderline too hot - but you could say ancient Xenos ruins exists on the planet and are surprisingly not too defiled or disturbed (beyond the Radical Inquisitors studying the ruins under protection from your Marines)
they xenos species are basically treefolk that have shown 0 signs of aggression to any vistors
the Khrovusians claim that the Sentinels were created by the Emperor when life first grew on Khorvusia, as defenders of his children, to ensure that no threats could hurt them from real space or the warp.
Maybe low intelligence tribal ones then, with both the Inquisitors and Marines monitoring them for rapid evolution like Tau did.
If low intelligence Xenos, Impeirum has been known to overlook, which is exactly how T’au came to be…
…heck, fuck it.
They all set up base there to prevent another sudden Tau rising incident
Monitor until killing is absolutely necessary, per se.
My original idea for why the imperium doesn't eradicate them is
- they show an understanding of gothic, and are willing to listen to the inquistion, though you need to kinda treat them like ogryns, they aren't exactly smart.
- They emit an aura around them that calms the warp, without shutting it down, so you don't have the blank issue of everyone feeling weird, though you aren't immune to like, warp lightning bolts, but they hurt way less just for having a tree around.
- They are an asset, similar to the Jokaero
That could work then, yes
'oh noo, I have to tolerate a like, tree person who is willing to listen to my commands while both protecting me from the warp AND providing food naturally grown from it? what ever shall i do'
is it just some dumb species?
oh i didn't resd
yeah they are a passive, and friendly plant based xenos species with a rudimentary understanding of gothic
like you can't have philisophical debates with it, but you can tell it to like carry things and it will understand you and likely do so
the imperium doesn't really care about xenos species that aren't actively harming the imperium or holding a significant portion of space as their own empire
cravers my beloved
just gotta like water it sometimes, give it plenty of sunlight
sweettt
what if i smoke one like a blunt
And if anyone complains, reverse the causality.
Say the Radical Ordo Xenos Inquisitors asked the Marines to not kill them.
plus hey, if you are an inquisitor, and get like stranded, you have both shelter and food constantly with you
It’s not like they are in a position to refuse, given our lore so far :p
probably good for morale too or smth
we are approaching acceptable levels of grimdark
somebody has to get fucked by somebody somewhere
Here the Radical Ordo Xenos Inquisitors are fucking the Astartes Chapter. A very gentle fuck, mind you, but said Astartes are still getting fucked. Theoretically XD.
I think you just have to keep in mind that kindness has a price in warhammer 40ks
Much like the Exorcists, the price here would be “the entire Imperium suddenly turning against them.”
Khorvusia Druid Corp
The druid corp is a psyker based regiment, with the most stable and trained psykers of khorvusia joining to lend medical magics and more organic warp attacks in aid to other regiments of imperial guardsman
Khorvusia Arbor Scouts
A highly trained regiment, the men and women of the Arbor Scouts are trained to travel across all different forms of terrain, remain unseen and gather as much intel as possible. Many prefer the usage of high powered bows rather then standard arms making members of the Arbor Scouts stand out among other regiments
Khorvusia Sky rippers
Trained pilots, these soliders train to fly through thick jungles and forest, using this training to rapidly go through dense areas and high fire skies to deliver supplies or provide aerial fire power.
I was thinking the Arbor scouts having a form of Power Bow but that was really fucking stupid even if it was funny
and it would make 0 sense due to power weapons taking ages to make
you could make their lasgun look primitive
give 'em Leviathans Breath from Destiny 2
I still wanna go with the bow and arrow theme for 2 reasons
- Less noise
- recoverable ammo
SO TRUE
Compound bows and arrows, modern yet still traditional and forest like.
so kind of like a tanith regiment
yeah
I didn't know what that was till now
but yeah
ye ye
Arbor scouts tend to be away from places to resupply for long spans of time, so being able to recover your ammo is just, incredibly useful.
they're the dan abnet poster child of elite militarum. they do stealth a lot and dont fit the mould of typical guardsmen
Ahh I see
yeah I would say Khrovusia for its regiments prefer quality over quantity
that's ok as long as you acknowledge that they're weird lol
yeah absolutely
imagine being a regular guardsman and you are firing your lasgun, you turn your head and see another guardman using a fucking bow and arrow
My only hesitation would be the Druid Corps, since psykers must be given to black ships and trained by Scholastica Psykana. That and - in our lore so far - the psykers are more than likely to have been taken by the Inquisition instead.
Instead of a full Druid Psyker regiment, I would advice instead yet another bit of Inquisition squeezing every bit of value they get is “Project Druid”, where psychic natives not recruited by your Astartes Chaps are taken by training for the Inquisition, then either stay in Inquisitorial service, or released back to your other 2 regiments as specialists.
(They can keep the name Druid ofc)
peak honestly
I do like that
you can do a lot just by saying "inquisitor said so"
Your Average Imperial guardsman fighting on the front lines with his lasgun before turning and seeing a an arbor scout using a bow and arrow (they might not even know what a bow and arrow is)
what a weird looking lasgun
would be weird for your guys to fight on regular front lines in that context
absolutely, I was just makin a joke
also you could add another detachment that fill the regular guard role
yeah I can replace the druid corp with that
you dont have to replace it
lever action lasguns your honor
that's entirely doable
thats actually terrible, I am not doing that
and cool
there's dumber lasguns out there
yeah true true
Khrovusian Rangers
The simplest of the Khrovusian regiments, the Rangers are known for their usage of lever action rifles. While not as specalized as the other regiments, they are still known for their accuracy, bravery, and willingness to risk themselves should it mean victory.
The rangers are noted to work incredibly well with the Valhallan ice warriors
would be a cool trend for the planet's regiments to be equipped with such archaic gear
honestly, yeah I agree, it makes sense
one silly idea I had was you know how eldar used to like make wrathbone and 'forge' it and stuff
Trained Khorvusian psykers could do that with wood, so lots of wood stocks with a more natural build and shit
make the regiments friends with vallahans for no reason at all, but it would make me personally happy
based. hell yeah
it's a bit sad that regiments arent known for having "friend" regiments
added it
the Khorvusian rangers are like, best friends with the Valhallan Ice warriors
'me lad over here! he may be from an icy planet, but by the emperor, he got a fire in his heart raging hotter then Nocturne!'
oh lemme get the Verdant Guard librarian groupsss
I have em written down somewhere
Within the order of the Hedge mage, there are 3 primary 'schools' that librarians go into outside of being a keeper
Terramancer
Hedge mages who travel this study are masters of psychic arts that manipulate the ground. Able to create jagged rocks from the very earth to jut out at their enemies, or to create barriers that would make an imperial fist blush, the Terramancers of the Verdant guard are powerful allies for any space marines. Some members are known to creating stony creatures to fight and protect
The current leader of the Terramancers is Stone lord Veltix
Druids
Hedge mages who travel this study are masters of psychic arts that manipulate the plant life around them. They create deadly vines from the earth, call down deadly clouds of spores, and even animate trees to fight for them. The Druids of the verdant guards are masters of the plant life across all planets.
The current leaders of the druids is Archdruid Drivia
Hydromancer
Hedge mages who travel this study are masters of the psychic art that manipulates water and ice. Calling upon massive floods to drown their foes, or creating harsh ice storms to rip apart those who stand before them. The hydromancers of the Verdant guard stand with their allies as a force of the raging oceans.
The current leaders of the Hydromancers is Depth strider Ringil
The current leader of all three factions is a human women by the name of Emeria, a psycher who joined the verdant guard when her twin brother made a simple demand to the chapter master 'I will only only join you if my sister comes with me'. As women are unable to become space marines, she was trained within the chapter and the many hedge mages of the verdant guard.
In terms of psychic might, she rivals the likes of Ahriman, though even her psychic might pales in comparison of those of magnus the red, Eldrad and Malcador.
As the leader of the hedge mages, she often speaks with High Keeper Tyvin and High Keeper Winstil on matters that involve psychers and other magical effects. In the absence of the chapter master, she is counted in the members to speak with his authority, along with other notable leaders in the chapter.
this was some older stuff, so might need to update it all
honeslty, I gotta put all this stuff in a doc at some point
also a funny note, Khorvusian guardsmen aren't in shock when they see space marines, they are used to them so they don't stand in awe and are more likely to speak rather bluntly with other marines
You could have a unique Rough Rider regiment, if there is a fast, ride-able (yea not wording well lol) animal native to your planet.
Also your regiment has a unique tool.
Yes, those motherfucking grappling hooks from Monster Hunter.
LOL
SO FUCKING TRUE
I can image some ranger members like fighting space marines and using the hooks and lines to trap them before disposing of them (probably with a few dying on the way)
alright that's a bit above tempestus scion level
I mean we have things of guardsmen killing space marines, but it was absoilutely a like
bee vs hornet situation
this sorta shit LMAO
alright yeah if a bunch die that's fine
'yeah like 80 of died! HOWEVER we cooked em alive!'
kind of goes against the elite nature no?
oh real yeah
as funny as it is,. scratch that
I will keep the aspect of using their grappling hooks are a tool to trap enemies
It would make more sense if all of them happen to have
just
Idk
not space marines
Melta bombs activated and attached to them
kasrkin and scions can kill space marines that's not an issue, just that they can't 1v1 them
yeah, they would never win a 1v1
it would also be not easy, it would be a whole lotta bull shit and sent up to take one down
except that kasrkin guy in fall of cadia who murders khorne marines with his melta gun
Unless if they have a plasma gun
based individual
On a very different note.
I think Attack on Titan doesn’t take place on Earth…?
Like, imagine those guys as a Guard regiment…
Its Earth
well
a fucked up version of Earth
itsl ike all the continets irl upside down lol
The 3 wall place is Eldia ?
I mean, if this is the official world, could be terraforming gone wrong instead.
Imagine Attack on Titan existing in 40k verse…
Lots of factions will have a field day…
Yeah

I don't really watch anime so I'm unsure, but don't they have the Spiderman problem where they're useless on flat ground
why is the wrold upsidedown
Lmao that's hilarious
Still would make them really useful on many theater of War, like if there is a Hive to conquer for example
They can
It’s just very unlikely
“As Scourgemaster of the Black Fleet and leader of the Hounds, he had always known that in a stand-up fight he would lose one Berzerker for every fifty Guardsmen slain – a hundred, if the thing was done right.
But these Kasrkin, they were themselves warriors of the blood. He had never seen their like outside the hated, unenlightened Chapters of the Adeptus Astartes. As his daemon-sight flew, he saw a wounded Kasrkin discharging a hellgun point-blank into a Berzerker’s lower abdomen – his bayonet broken on the power armour. A sergeant with a power sword counter-charged against a whole file of Lazcare’s pack, taking down one with his plasma pistol before a chainaxe split him shoulder to hip.
Several streets over, a line of bunker habs four blocks long lifted into the air in a curtain of flame, tearing apart forty warriors from Pergaza’s contingent. The mortals had contested the buildings until the Khornates stormed it, then triggered pre-rigged explosives. The Cadians had baited his warriors inside then sacrificed their own lives to annihilate them.
Count our dead to theirs,’ he said to Artesia, and she flashed off his shoulders and circled. ‘How steep is the butcher’s bill?’
‘One Hound for every thirty mortal dead, master! They are standing unto death, bringing your warriors with them into the blood-sleep.’
‘And they say the Adeptus Astartes know no fear. Even the Corpse-Emperor’s sons do not throw away their lives with such wantonness. One Hound for every thirty. It is unthinkable. Perverse."
another Imperial W, for cool moments
The virgin “Oh I gotta make sure this world and geography are distinct and make sense and also aren’t too much like the other worlds in fiction while looking nice and easy to see” world builder
vs
The Chad Isayama “I took map and flipped it upside down lol”
AAUAGGH-
(Most of the map is irrelevant, the vast majority of the story takes place on one stupid small island and a single city on the mainland)
I don't know why I'm disappointed in a space marine name, but here I am
Eh
Like if AOT took place ~20 years later, Eren's giant Colossal Titan Wall would've been nuked
Possibly, AoT tech isn't totally consistent with ours.
It still would have killed a lot of people though, at best.
The Sepolcrali are a race of worm-like Xenos encountered by the Imperium on the planet of Thermia V.[1]
Literally budget AOT Titans which is funny
Yeeeee
tho not much to it beyond that, its like one random alien mention in the xenology book
Wait does it just make random humans giant?
True. Although I think that maybe carpet bombing would probably be the way to take them out
Or did it possess a giant?
They basically infest a person and make them giant.
Because they are basically a throwaway alien race because the xenology book needed material.
Also uncreative writers which is kinda the norm
Fair
Its why only hear of like Hrud for the 13506th instead of something else lol
Isn't there like an entire Xenos empire in 40k that we just have
no figures about
AoT army has WW1 tech with 1/10 of the number of WW1.
Tons.
Again though throwaway line, its to mostly help with homebrew if fans/writers wanna include them in stuff.
The Q'Orl is the main one
But they never get mentioned so who knows, but they had a huge empire on an older map.
It was the largest empire besides the IoM
BL novels do tend to make weird references to anime, ranging anywhere from a subtle nod to…well, near damn full copying.
Yes I said that
Yes I know, catch up.
To be fair its mostly because 40k is always affected by pop culture here and there
which... well makes sense because it also formed from said IPs so lol
Also true!
…
But none of the BL writers have the guts to do a 40k take on Magical Girls XD
Yeah those. Those actually look cool as shit
Devastation of Baal I'm fairly certain has a Erwin reference as a character.
Well

Bro doesn't know about her
Celestine is a magical girl
Celestine, less so. Stern is just straight up anime.
Celestine is definitely on the same tier
I forgot about Stern.
her book is about as anime
You and most of the fandom
Nah Stern is way beyond her in what she does

Stern kinda breaks the setting.
Nah, they are pretty much the same
Stern is much more anime then Celestine and its hilarious
also like magic in 40k has no cap
so theres not exactly a limit for it
Celestine mostly just hits people with her sword and dies a lot, shes powerful but shes very standard Living Saint. Stern is just, absolutely bonkers.
The last time I read about her from anywhere is from TTS...
I read her entire comic series and have it saved
its pretty much more or less the same
Awful
Stern blasts whole armies in the fucking pariah nexus with her powers still.
"Your meager Xenos food your presented me with couldn't sate starvation in a rodent, much less a human at PEAK PERFORMANCE!"
And Celestine does the same, we got literal art of it
Faith Powers or whatever are literal anime magic to begin with tbh
I disagreed but whatever, the point is 40k has magical girls
And I didnt care the first time but whatever
anyway
basically anime magic shit is anime magic shit
…ok I did not know 40k fans already consider Celestine as qualifying for one lol
Id rather shoot myself than do that 💀
I do classify stern though
Kiss the pigeon you bigot
I mean yeah but the presentation
"Buried, she was revived by the gift given to her by her fallen sisters, a light of the warp but not of the warp. Ephrael finally embraced her power and defeated a Culexus Assassin, overwhelming its abilities with her own. Ephrael Stern was last seen traveling with an Eldar known as the Pariah to the Black Library, using her abilities to access the webway. Though the Ordo believes she presents an extreme danger to the Imperium, and has issued orders for her destruction, some members of the Ordo think she might be Mankind's greatest hope since the Primarchs."
is what matters more imo
also Celestine gets fucked by Nulls
unlike Stern who uh
idk
Golden glowing light vs blue glowing light is uh
Sterns funny


lol
too true
The torture sphere
This is about as close to weakness as I'll get.
Imagine her basically speaking like Female Duke Nukem
Her weakness is nobody likes her because shes a female
Stern uses her power to overwhelm a Culexus and blast it with psychic power.
She also has a Harlequin boyfriend which is nice
Fuck I actually forgot how goofy those comics get.
Kynagil my beloved
The Pariah Nexus stuff is just the cherry on top
dont forget they also hold arms and go to the Black Library together lol
I'm an equal opportunity ass kicker
Man that part lol
Yeah and it was actually left as a cliffhanger for awhile
because uhhh
Warhammer Monthly got canned
so we didnt get an answer as to what the fuck happened for years
Well that is an intellectual date for sure…lol
I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna KICK YOUR ASS.
He basically saved her so thats as close as you can get

So, she is a heretic.
They mde out later.
Thats a big part of her series
Hence the Culexus assassin coming after her.
And a lot of other stuff.
Her entire series is a big can of worms
She does a lot that much i do remember
Yeah thats one way to put it lol
She gets hunted by Malleus Inquisitors and Ahriman and other chaos forces.
Currently shes tangling with Szeras whose very annoyed by the fact that her powers work in the Nexus and wants to study her, but can't get her.
its a nutty series but probably one of my favs
Yeah I remember following it after finding random pictures of it online
She is one of the craziest parts of the setting. Which says a lot considering it's 40k
I was curious about the source at first then fell down a rabbit hole
Yeah thats usually how uh
most people find her comics lol
at least pre-pariah nexus
I will check the stuff out tonight
Very much so
Its a fun series
I should read more about mrs Stern, it seems
It should be on comic online i think
I wouldnt say fairly
Yeah its not that short
So not a ton to read.
Pouring one out 🥃
It wont be missed it was CRINGE

As a former manga consumer, it sounds short.
I do wonder if Stern and Celestine have met
It wasnt mainline so yeah
Not yet as far as I recall
Nope.
They were far away during the "recent" lore events
Stern's entire deal was the Nexus
Stern has only been active in recent events in the Nexus
Celestine was fucked off somewhere else dealing with the plot of that dumb Alpha Legion book
And it was a brieft bit
That book was weird.
Well its AL
Might come up again as the story moves to Nexus
you either get gold or you get crap

Im sure people werent upset by it
That bad huh
Yes 

Its fine uhh
sororitas fans are usually on the better side of the spectrum
but theres definitely a lot of bad ones
Also Daemonifuge has 80 pages, thats a short series unless you have some kinda reading disability.
among uhhh other stuff
Yeet
I had my fun while in there especially during their revamp though
all 40k fans are on the spectrum
They are extremely aged
all of them
Yeah lmao
Hold on i got a meme for this
Everyone is on the spectrum Laati
Thats why its a spectrum

Extra apologies to you @forest orbit for this one

Lemme watch
LMFAO THE FUCKING CHART
Also extra points for using atun shei, hes great love his civil war videos
Happy to help lol
Yeah im saving this
He's a weird fellow, fun to watch though
Im glad he atleast acknowledges hes weird
I should give his stuff a rewatch sometime, the Checkmate Linconites stuff is soooo good
Im not a huge history gal myself but its one of the few pieces of american lore media i can watch funnily enough
He also made a Nazi Roommate video
and it is funny
and slightly unsettling
but mostly funny
That ending.
Its definitely a comedy video with a good message
History is good for your brain, and philosophy. You gotta balance out the warhammer brainrot
100%
^
I mostly say it because this fandom has very much made me hate people a lot at certain points
Although tbh it is funny purely because of the guy trying to take over the room like it's a fucking country.

Lore accurate german roommate
I want a sequel with a communist/soviet roommate now
Same. I do wonder what hes gonna do now
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This is his latest video
Yoooooo
Nosferatu centric huh ill give it a watch, the movie was awesome so this could be neat.
It helps that the director is a huge history nut
Maybe I should watch that movie, but I've fulfilled by yearly 3 movie quota
As a pussy ass dude that doesnt do well with scary movies, is it a recommended watch?
I watched the 3 Sonic movies for Jim Carrey, I can watch another for mr Dafoe
It has jumpscares but like its mainly a "oh god hell no thats scary" visuals movie.
It is as much of a history piece as much as a vampire one
It's a lot of bother to watch movies, I've entirely dropped television years ago
Yeah preach
Ah I see I see
You can kinda tell when the scares are also gonna come so you can prepare accordingly
it has like 3-4 and thats it really, id super recommend it
it also just has Nosferatu as the monster so a mustachio vampire is probably not gonna give you nightmares lol
Hes definitely creepy but like yeah
It’s more gross than scary
The monsterfucker women were enamoured, this I know
Yeah its peak.
Monster fucker women when they see a vaguely humanoid monster with a mustache
It does its job there
Also seconded, even if not a Nossie fan lol
You should've said it was uncomfortable, I love uncomfortable movies
"CHECKMATE XENO!"
If you’ve seen the Light House or VVitch its similar to that
I watched the Lobster like twice, a movie record for the last ten years
Not enough farts
or homoeroticism
but close enough i guess
Light House was great
what type of 40k fan is the most aristocratic? i would say unaligned ones, but nid fans have got to be pretty up there as well
Norseman was very off brand for Eggers in terms of the disturbing stuff, still good but yeah
In what way?
i bought the lobster cause some friends wanted to watch a movie together. that was fun
theres a lot
Looking forward to his stuff as always
Probably Titan fans since they can afford it
I'm not sure I even like it much, but yet I do
Aristocrats being generally wealthy
like if we consider BT and DKoK fans to be of the lowest quality, that implies there is a top caste of 40k fans
There really isnt
theres a medium point then theres the low levels tbh
top caste is whoever has my tastes
Like...
lolol
Ork fans thats right
Because their factions are largely hordes of monsters
and they arent elitist pricks
Nah it's that World Eaters guy who was shadowboxing at that one tournament
sounds awfully like someone who puts people into boxes
"I dont put people into boxes"
I was thinking chaos but too many of them regurgitate that weird magnus take of chaos like it's gospel
I’m gonna put you in a real box
people still seperate themselves into boxes
Chaos is 3rd place
like
ive met A LOT of cool chaos fans
but theres about as many annoying ones
the Imperium spectrum is very much the worst and the most 50/50 though
Because human factions in sci-fi settings are uhh yeah lol
But this is if you ask me the rank them
I personally think the most annoying Warhammer fans are the ones who obsess over whose worst or best, those guys tend to be pretty toxic
I usually try not to but people make it difficult
I just want to be violently xenophobic and treat everyone like shit, why do the racists flock to my faction
lol
idk, eternal reward 82915655 is pretty far gone if you ask me
could be worse
I stand with Eternal 🫡
it could be Black Templars
Truuuuue
hero of the people
Somehow I’ve done fine by just not liking people based off how they act and not what their favorite plastic fake faction is
normal Imperium fan?
But hey
Never enough of them.
That’s a tall order I guess
Its not really about favorite plastic factions
its about being a normal person
It is
That’s literally what y’all are saying
Ugh
I’m saying just treat people well enough until they’re assholes
I mean I tr yto
Uh huh
then they turn out to be bad people lol
who for some reason like, you know
always are either imperial guard or space marine fans for some reason
very weird huh
I’m sure you do
Yeah I got a lot of imaginary friends believe me.
does saying stuff like this make you feel dignified?
Hes always like this.
No it makes me generally right though
Damn where did I say that
Idk why
Oh yeah I’m generalizing
I mean you are.
for one, obviously the very nature of the conversation is tongue-in-cheek by its very nature, nobody actually believes in a literal IRL fan caste system. it's rather telling that you take even the most absurd subjects at face value
Ok lol
second, even if you disagree, there's not really any reason to constantly reiterate how enlightened you are
Because people have made it clear hey do take it at face value and are toxic based off what people like in a fictional universe
When it’s super easy to not
I mea
then why are imperium fans so weird
and why is it always them on the frontlines of being toxic
or you know, chuds
I’m the one generalizing btw
Your stance is "Its not a specific faction's group faults, it can be anyone"
thats generalising lol
like seriously, what is the matter with you
I think the point is proven for itself
Yeah it definitely has
i think you're the only one who took it absolutely literally
^
This conversation can always be civil, we are mostly joking around. You are the one taking it so seriously.
You’re not actually this obtuse, and I don’t believe you can’t get what the point was
It’s not joking around when people actually apply it here and always get toxic or bash people for it
in the arena of obtusity i dont think there is a greater champion than you
It’s “joking around”
Yet it remains somewhat correct.
eli LITERALLY has a BT pfp
Yes like I said lol
and i dont see him getting crucified
And to expand on that
You want it both ways
I literally have people question me on this
assuming im a chud
I wonder why thats the case
“It’s a joke but also it’s true and I believe it”
totally not BT fans always being fucking nutjobs
It’s so dishonest, at least own it
You really dont
You just make strawmans, be semantic and be argumentative.
Its always what you do.
Its the same song and dance, I dont mind it but at least own to it.
🤷♂️
You never have an substance so you throw out some buzzwords to try to distract from the fact you’re just being a toxic prick judging people ahead of time for their favorite plastic soldier army
“Oh semantics, strawman!” Where?
in reality, eternal reward 82915655 is enjoying 40k as it was always meant: the tagline is "Only War" after all
Sounds about right.
I don’t like people being toxic pricks
Yet you are being one right now.
^
not everything is a battle for the soul of mankind
Just to be clear
Anyways my points been proven well enough, keep discussing how you’re joking about making fun of a pre judging people for faction preferences but also not actually
Im not saying like
"All BT fans are toxic so all of them are bad"
Im just saying some faction fans are very much worse than others.
If you dont want to accept this I dont know what to tell you.
🤷♂️
They embody their faction

Definitely.
its sorta like a venom situation

the faction becomes a symbiote
Whatever you need to do to prejudge people my guy, you’re allowed to do that
Yes I know
contary to you always assuming im not for some reason
which itself is kinda dickish but okay
Because you just use it as a shield from criticism for being toxic
....
didnt you just say your points were proven and that we were allowed to go back to having fun again?
When have I been toxic?
Eli deals with the voices that want him to be racist, homophobic, transphobic, homephobic, xenophobic, did I mention racist?
And he says "you are keeping the argument going" btw.
After making like... 4-5 "final" statements.

"AND ANOTHER THING..."
Eternal is the real John Grammaticus.
anti-fun police rolling up
My favorite faction is probably the T'au. Which is probably why I'm brain damage-
Nah Tau are cool.
Im just not a fan of them
but thats allowed isnt it

just making sure
I'm hemaphobic
Tau is the only faction I never really got into but thats mostly because their lore is kinda whatever for me.
I have some nice people in a group im in that sells me on them sometimes which is neat.
As for what Chaos faction specifically? Idk, call me undivided because I think all of them are cool
Although I fuck with Khorne the most. Blood.
Also fair lol
call me iron warriors cause I think all of them suck
I do want to get into the Tabletop but uh
how do I say this
I hate talking to people
Rude.
Also I'd probably fuck up painting
they're just all boring bad guys since heresy tbh
they dont really have depth
Hey
just corrupted or mustache twirling evil
fabius bile is the only cool one
just a few years away from GW releasing a tabletop app to play against bots
sales go up 500%
Even betray and sabotage each other like Decepticons
chaos is my favorite, but specifically only undivided chaos aspects
i never really got into the whole costumed power rangers aspect
It's just up to you whether you want them to be like modern Decepticons
or
G1 Decepticons
He's the Red Ranger, he likes Khorne and Anger and stuff!
"You're either lying, or you're stupid."
"I'm stupid! I'm stupid!"
Who would be Starscream for Abaddon btw
if i had to pick a canon legion to champion, it'd probably be word bearers
I think its cool but im too indecisive to pick a favorite
Liking all of them is usually easier unless one REALLY rings for you
Eliphas
Erebus also is up there
Falkus?
i just dislike all chaos 
sorry, but khorne fans are the lowest caste of the chaos fans
Haarken?
but only because i find their whole "Khorne would NEVER use guns" shtick super annoying
Tbf. They don't mind probably bc
Haarken is loyal
well "new"
Tbh
VIOLENCE
He’s existed in lore
true
Well they DO.
Since like 5e lol

Kharn uses a plasma pistol
But he’s just been irrelevant
Until he got a mini
yeah which is why the fans there are silly
there's no reason for them to not use guns
In abaddons case, everyone is kinda a starscream
Lol
What It's Like is my 40k-gospel piece
Tbh
even if its not even strictly canon
it just creates such an awesome setting for chaos
No one has the balls to actually try and betray abbadon lol
Basically, the black legion are literally decepticons
Even if they do they get bodied.
Yeah
but thats on them for being stupid
in SM2 the marines really do be sounding like autobots and decepticons
"YOU WONT GET AWAY WITH THIS IMURAH"
"DIE ULTRAMARIIIINES"
ahhh dialogue
Instead of a gun he turns into a disc in this case
Nemeroth
If we're talking heresy, horus is basically megatron, erebus is starscream, and ig abaddon is soundwave
SM2 is a cheesy game
Memeroth
he had like barely some lore pre-SM1
I ALMOST replied with that
Lorgar is starscream
Since he does try to betray Horus
He just loses the fight
Because Horus was omega juiced
Fabulous Bill is Shockwave
SM1 was half canon until SM2.
HORUS HAS FALLEN! I, LORGAR AM NOW YOUR LEADER! CHAOS, FOLLOW ME!
They basically explained every thing pre-SM2 yeah
mostly to excuse Titus' existence
I’m of the opinion archaea is actually a daemon
something something everything is canon, not everything is true
im building my deredeo and i still can't figure out where tf the sarcophagus fits
He was missing an Arm
- surrounded by daemons and daemon engines and csm and possesed
Bro absolutely died
It’s laying down
the canoe segment
The head isn’t actually a marine head
^
It’s a sensor array
i KNOW
DO YOU
but even if laying down there's no room
There is
i have the model right here go fuck yaself
nah fack you
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

Damn i got no gun emotes
Just 2 dudes trying to fuck each other.

Astartes fan ritual
this server literally has one
fuck i forgot about those

I like the comically one sided turf wars in monster hunter
azur lane == 40k???
STOP
Mostly because it’s hilarious watching the weaker monster get absolutely bodied and tossed around
They look a little different
It helps to remember too when they put marines in dreads they remove unnecessary parts of their body too
So it’s less than just a torso and head often
what i find fucked is that SM2 used the tabletop scale vehicles. the baneblade is so small
Someone needs to banish you to zealot chat.
Small?
yeah ik
Bruh you are a space marine
It’s almost like robocop
level
You don't need more than a sack of organs, a spine, and a brain
in books the baneblade is huge
well yeah it is
SM2 has like
but also its 40k, inconsistency is the name of the game
^
Don’t look at the background
that's what i said
a baneblade has a crew of like 12 people lol
The Russ’s are bigger then the baneblades
It’s a lot smaller than it should be in that yeah
like my penis
Size works off of the rule of cool
Well
It being bigger would be cooler
The baneblade never actually physically moves
It’s a prop
They could have made it bigger
in a soul drinker book a militarum general has a personal office in his baneblade
Yeah
They’re not all the same size
But it’s cool
The top one would fit a small office though
Is one aspect of it
ah the baneblade, everyone's favorite light scouting vehicle
It was never a scout tank
Oh yeah my favorite lore is knock off version of vehicles
the demolisher cannon being bigger than a space marine shouldn't be that way
Meme lore detected
yeah lmfao
The worst variety of meme lore behind Orks thinking anything into existence
knight titans were garden implements
Tbf
They were sorta
They were multi tools
also who's getting put into the scribing box?
But primarily they were there for defense yes
The dude who swore he could have been an administratum clerk
Battle logs
at least the terminator armour coming from dark age human sized colony suits is still cool
Unironically Prolly ammo expenditure
Someone has to record kill tallies for posterity
And yeah battle logs
So it’s not really accurate how people say that either
The EOD aspect did
But the armor itself was made as it is
They weren’t running around in armor like that
Terminator armor was heavily based on DAOT stuff
Huge, but the gun bore is only a 155mm
Just their suits had the same environmental protection
still it was usable by regular humans
Well yeah
It was but it wasn’t terminator armor
which is kinda weird since i have never seen one found from that era
It was suits which had very good radiation protection
For really rich people
They weren’t the same thing
doesn't the land raider come from the same concept
The environmental armor was made into a combat suit which uses its environmental resilience
Land Raider was made wholesale I think
I can’t recall if it’s mentioned it used anything
Land raider was designed by Land from an STC he found
The original Land Raider could fly
it was a vehicle made to survive hostile environments which it still does to this day
where does the land tractor lore factor in
Yeah, Leman Russ was developed from something less tank like too iirc
It seems to have just been an exploration vehicle
i dont remember if leman russ lore even mentions STC but it's been so twisted around with HH
I vaguely remember something about a tractor engine, but it's been so long I'm not sure about anything
malcadore came before
and some HH rulebooks act like the imperium developped the leman russ
well
again, newer lore twists it around
does the scout titan really scout?
the warhound?
Not really
I mean
I guess it’s a scout in titan on titan warfare
Lol
i think leman russ coming from an STC is retar lord so i'm still going to ignore it
what's the community's fascination with scout vehicles
Idk
in the grim darkness, there's only collecting data
also whose idea was it to create a power armor pattern that doesnt have a neck
They’re good at moving fast and dipping in and out by Titan standards


