40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-gif-15687325833433865178

[queen laurel]

so saying that i trust the forged guy doesn't seem that crazy now

[shadow plover]

Space Marines and Stormcast are both just the 'easy to paint' faction, nothing more, noting less

[dusk patrol]

People like the aesthetic.

[storm jungle]

Extremely based take.

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-daring-today-spongebob-spongebob-meme-daring-today-arent-we-gif-23808696

Rare reddit argument where the person asked me where they could find better sources after I corrected them, truly a blessed day.

[storm jungle]

I still cannot ever get over how nobody even here can read the lexi

[storm jungle]

I think my favorite posts are though these ones

"Theres no way the Imperium is this terrible right guys? I just imagined this passage 🥴 "

[dusk patrol]

Imagine not being able to function on 4 hours of sleep

Pathetic

[storm jungle]

Yeah imagine that

[raven stone]

I mean to be fair, from a technical point of view they are asking HTF it even functions.

[queen laurel]

bro if GW follows their suggestions the setting would immediately be fixed with how much common sense the imperium developed

[raven stone]

But they worded it poorly

looking like they cannot read instead.

[storm jungle]

like I said before the Imperium is the actual summary of that one Arkham subreddit meme

"Are they stupid?"

[queen laurel]

yes

yes they are

[raven stone]

A better way to put it is…
“How the fuck has the Macragge’s Honour not crashed from catastrophic fault due to crew onyl sleeping for 4 hours!?”

Which is a much more reasonable ask than saying “did I read this right” lol

[storm jungle]

Its that and I read this book

the people in here do the menial work

its not exactly the important core functions of the ship lol

[median star]

so did the iron hands and iron warriors ever come to blow on the fact they both had iron in the name of were they chill

[shadow plover]

My fucking floor scrubber fell asleep, the ship's gonna crash and burn

[raven stone]

Funni how we actually do go back to “so Reddit people can’t read”…

[raven stone]

They were…surprisingly chill about that fact, oddly enough.
Mind you they still hate each other like Traitors and Loyalists would.

[storm jungle]

They were too lazy to make a copyright claim so they just resorted to artillery instead.

[storm jungle]

its unfortunately a very common running joke for a reason

like a SINGLE lexi skim read can answer most questions people have

[shadow plover]

there should be a successor chapter called Dark Blood Angels and no-one knows who's successor they are

[dusk patrol]

https://old.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1izzcd3/excerpt_iron_soul_a_wolf_priest_retrieves_the/mf8ew1w/?context=3

We did get a good post today though.

Even if people are being dumb in it.

[storm jungle]

is it because it has Iron Hands in it

[dusk patrol]

That makes most posts better so

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

It doesn't hurt

[queen laurel]

i wonder what types food the imperium have

smooth brained redditor goes reddit

normal people use google

[storm jungle]

Hold on

i got an image for this

Mmmm

[queen laurel]

ork juice

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/charles-robinson-penis-thats-a-penis-himym-how-i-met-your-mother-gif-4703463

[raven stone]

Both legions know getting artillery shells through the bureaucracy is far easier compared to filing a lawsuit and getting that to go through…

[storm jungle]

Why bother with legality when you can just shoot the person you dislike?

[queen laurel]

i used that reasoning when i shot that kid for taking the PS5 on Black Friday court did not side with me

[raven stone]

But actually come to think of it…
If one does run an Iron Hands/Iron Warriors joint HH army, it makes a very weird kind of brutal thematic sense.

IW are “pelt legionnaires at wall”, and IH are “absolute logic calculations” types

Regardless of whether this joint force is loyalist or traitor, their approach is bound to be fucking brutal

[dusk patrol]

I had a homebrew idea for a Blackshield Iron Hands/Iron Warriors warband called the Reforged or Iron Forged or something.

Its been a minute.

Ironborn would have been better but

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-euron-greyjoy-neverdie-drowning-gif-13536004

[raven stone]

Heh

[dusk patrol]

Some fat fuck took that

[raven stone]

Yes sadly there will also be lost of GoT jokes

[dusk patrol]

Yeah just wasn't worth it

ZOMG JUST LIKE GOT HUHUHUHU

[raven stone]

I would prefer to just run 2 detachments, but then again, I don’t think their alliance matrix works out well, so low synergy lol

[dusk patrol]

Iirc the idea was an Iron Father and Warsmith dual leaders, with them working to churn out inductii and press ganging IA into their little crusade.

[raven stone]

Nice

[storm jungle]

Inductii are still one of the funniest things in HH and im glad they are a thing

[raven stone]

Alpha Legion Inductii…

lol

[storm jungle]

its also another great example of like

its an idea if you said and it wasnt official people would go "nah thats dumb as hell and doesnt make sense"

but when GW does it its "ah yes, this makes perfect sense"

Warhammer Moment

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[storm jungle]

No

[dusk patrol]

I love the Exorcists

[raven stone]

I mean, to be fair, lorewise I feel it makes sense.

[storm jungle]

Nah it does

[dusk patrol]

Theyd be the dumbest fucking homebrew ever

[storm jungle]

i mean more from like

the hypocritical POV of the fanbase

lol

[raven stone]

Oh right

[storm jungle]

40k is built on dumb goofy stuff

people just never wanna embrace it

[raven stone]

Same. They are like Grey Knights who don’t murder their allies afterwards!

[dusk patrol]

People are free to homebrew stupid stuff.

[storm jungle]

Well

[dusk patrol]

I will just mock it

[storm jungle]

lets say "free"

but yes

as long as you dont do IDF marines i wont judge you too much

[raven stone]

…yea ok THAT is just asking for trouble…

[dusk patrol]

Not touching that one

[raven stone]

My cousin had suggested Ferrari Marines (he is into cars) 😅

[storm jungle]

To be fair

[dusk patrol]

Beat him

[storm jungle]

ferrari DOES have a great scheme

[dusk patrol]

And tell him to just do Red Talons

[raven stone]

Also when Forgeworld quietly implied Red Scorpions were Wehrmacht Marines way back when…

[dusk patrol]

Idk what you mean

They just want Astartes Purity

[storm jungle]

the genetic purity stuff is great ngl

makes the readings of their lore funny as fuck

[dusk patrol]

They have an insanely kickass scheme so

I forgive everything

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

Would you fuck me? I’d fuck me

[storm jungle]

Big W of having the honor of being drawn by Kopinski

[shadow plover]

fat fuck

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[raven stone]

Ah yes the last great thing out of Forgeworld before it got killed off.
A Leviathan Dreadnought Chapter Master…

[storm jungle]

hey ive seen worse

[raven stone]

No I genuinely think the concept is cool

As in its over the top cool

lol

[storm jungle]

Lol yeah

rare Forgeworld W tbh

man i miss Imperial Armor

[raven stone]

We all do

Especially when GW put updated Necron lore in there instead

[dusk patrol]

I dunno most of these schmucks never read it

[storm jungle]

they basically only know vraks

[dusk patrol]

Maybe Badab

Never read either also

[raven stone]

instead of, oh I don’t know, the actual fucking Necron codex.

[dusk patrol]

Just cliff notes, badly done ones

[storm jungle]

i remember when i told people vraks is like 3 encyclopedias long

and they were like "what"

common Alan Bligh W

[raven stone]

No they only know “huurrr Nazi Trenchcoat boys”

[storm jungle]

LOL

I mean

okay yeah not too far from the truth

the funny part is you can also ACTUALLY read these online too

its all copy pasted to the fucking wiki

so theres no "oh i cant get the books anymore" excuse

[raven stone]

“Well I CAN’T READ”
-average Reddit fan

[storm jungle]

[raven stone]

Ah crap no gif of the Russian Badger take on “I can’t read”

[storm jungle]

lmfao

[shadow plover]

I will not stand for illiterate hate, the favourite person you know (me) might be illiterate

[storm jungle]

BUT YOU READ BOOKS

[vagrant fox]

i wasn't taught independent thinking in school 😦

[shadow plover]

barely!

[storm jungle]

bro has the B1 Droid mentality

[shadow plover]

dyslectic gang rise up

[queen laurel]

that's an insult to B1 Droids

[storm jungle]

they say so themselves!

"We're independant thinkers."

"Roger."
"Roger."
"Roger."

[shadow plover]

they're just vocal stimming..

[raven stone]

Good grief it’s like those right wing NPC memes…

[storm jungle]

its one of the best gags in the show

lol

[queen laurel]

you want no independent thought?

pick a B2

[storm jungle]

Okay B2's are based

[vagrant fox]

I get almost a vague second of secondhand embarrassment when someone whines about not getting taught something simple in school
you're an adult, you jezebel of a woman, look it up

[shadow plover]

but you should watch those wrist rockets

[storm jungle]

SHUT UP

[shadow plover]

we've captured the enemy command post

[queen laurel]

jerk, shove yourself in a Shrine Anchorite

[vagrant fox]

remember when star war was cool

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-attack-of-the-clones-geonosis-droid-battle-gif-15588682

I do

good times

[shadow plover]

andor season 2 is coming, soon it'll be cool again

[storm jungle]

anyway Andor S2 is coming out so lets-

man i hope so lol

[storm jungle]

if Luthen is a jedi im fucking done

[vagrant fox]

Andor was good in spite of star war, wild

[storm jungle]

my favorite thing with that is like

we got shows of all the main characters

[queen laurel]

if i can run an army with unlimited budget i would definitely run the seperatist droid army

[storm jungle]

they all sucked

and the show about like

CASSIAN

WHO

ANDOR

someone ends up being THE peak

[shadow plover]

I very much doubt he would be one

but who knows

[queen laurel]

that's a nice planet you got there it would be a shame if i throw enough droids at it

[storm jungle]

its that

"but who knows"

that scares me

[queen laurel]

it drowns in metal

[storm jungle]

i dont want jedis in my SW shows man

i hate this crap lmao

[vagrant fox]

Tired of cuckass jedi

Tired of dumbass sith

[storm jungle]

i think the last sith character i ever liked was that old due in ahsoka

and his actor fucking died straight after

says a lot honestly

[hallow plover]

I miss george lucas

Simpler times

[vagrant fox]

kreia was right about the force, kill the stupid thing

[storm jungle]

dont wory about him

[shadow plover]

no you don't

[raven stone]

KK: “instructions unclear, more OP girl sues and lightsabers!”

[storm jungle]

hes sitting at home counting money

he won

we all lost

[vagrant fox]

George Lucas was dumb as fuck but he had funny ideas

[shadow plover]

you speak like he died

[hallow plover]

The man knew how to marketize toys for kids

[vagrant fox]

He's dead to me

[storm jungle]

I meant "won" as in laughing making money lol

[queen laurel]

this is my personal favorite SW Character

[shadow plover]

fair enough

[shadow plover]

meant Sigsen

[storm jungle]

damn it

[raven stone]

That cannot be Droidpool…

[queen laurel]

it's not it's mr bones

[shadow plover]

Dilara always making everything about herself...

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-2-death-space-marine-2-gif-12976716491498684396

[hallow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-fish-spognebob-phone-gif-3064144843174203984

[storm jungle]

aughhh-

[queen laurel]

a highly modified illegal battle droid

Comes with illegal combat data from people like general grievous

don't worry he's a good guy

[vagrant fox]

my favourite star war character is my old ttrpg mandalorian who became a discount general grievous, followed by general grievous

[hallow plover]

That sounds like a kid's fanfic OC

[storm jungle]

to be fair

most official characters in fiction sound like fanfic OCs

[green loom]

Pretty low caliber for star wars chars

[vagrant fox]

You can't say that about Mister Bones

[queen laurel]

Yeah that's a pretty low thing for Star Wars characters

[hallow plover]

I guess star wars is for kids

[shadow plover]

deep down every character is an OC

lots to think about

some just more stolen than others

[dusk patrol]

Did you know all words are made up

[shadow plover]

yeah by Dan Abnett

[storm jungle]

yeah by you, the reader

(whos gay)

[storm jungle]

"My commissar has an ork arm he cut off and implanted into himself from a nob"

[shadow plover]

and a big hat

[storm jungle]

and his own baneblade

called the Fortress of Arrogance

[shadow plover]

does old man yaoi with the nob he stole the hand

[storm jungle]

AAAUGH-

[queen laurel]

i love ork books by Brooks but i don't need to say anything really

[storm jungle]

LOL

Yeah Ufthak is definitely a chapter master tier uhhh "character"

[shadow plover]

maybe he was born with it, maybe it was makebelieve*

*drukharii inflation drug

[queen laurel]

And apparently by GW's word he's in the top three ork Characters

[storm jungle]

Top 3?

god warcom i hate you

[queen laurel]

yeah the way they worded esteemed likes of Ghazghkull Thraka, Ufthak Blackhawk, and – soon – Mad Dok Grotsnik.

means that they acknowledge that he's popular enough to be mention next to Ghazghkull Thraka

Which is unfortunately not a high bar to meet because not a lot of ork book characters are around

[dusk patrol]

I wish

[storm jungle]

you're a marine space fan, that automatically makes you gay

[storm jungle]

Its mostly just empty marketing talk, dont worry

warcom does it a lot

[dusk patrol]

If I’m gay, then how am I able to bang your mom?

https://tenor.com/view/chess-checkmate-its-it-over-gif-17459417336418427755

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

You're bisexual

[queen laurel]

yeah I think that but like really now i love brooks but putting Ulfthak next Ghazghkull is like putting eternal next to Guiliman

[storm jungle]

I was gonna make a joke

but i legit do not know the names of any IH characters

hold on

Anatolia Godolkin sounds good

FUCK

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-2-death-space-marine-2-gif-12976716491498684396

guh

[vagrant fox]

you assplode too much

[storm jungle]

I love this gif im sorry

one of the goofiest scenes in the game imo

[queen laurel]

13 years of warhammer

[storm jungle]

real

[vagrant fox]

you know what they say in the warhammers
unforgiven

[storm jungle]

Never.

[barren prawn]

if the emperor was so smart why did he never make a blank primarch

[storm jungle]

Uhhhhh

[crystal forum]

40k https://youtu.be/qgoGen5xG7Y?si=QJfjGDsXRBuOm-hQ

[storm jungle]

something-something he'd see it as (convenient plot reason here]

[barren prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-gif-26325993

[dusk patrol]

Can’t even spell it right when it’s in the image smh

[storm jungle]

I know I was making a joke shut up

also the name "godolkin" has been absolutely ruined by Ennis for me so 💀

[dusk patrol]

Well that book came first so he stole it

But then again everything about the Boys is kinda ripped off

[queen laurel]

Kinda?

[shadow plover]

I could buy the explanation that a blank primarch would've been impossible to produce given how warp stuff was used to create them

[queen laurel]

yeah that works

In the 1st place you would probably need to alter the formula so much in order to accommodate blank powers

[hallow saddle]

It's oldhammer but actually a pretty kickass book tbh
Someone converted a Gdolkin to look like the old book cover, it's really sick.

Also one of the earliest references that actually has the complete phrase "the flesh is week, but deeds endure", iirc

mfw

[shadow plover]

dude's facing away from the fighting to pose for the picture

[storm jungle]

"oldhammer" imo is always rogue trader era

mid 2000's 40k books are still based af and largely never conflict with anything since they are always self-contained stories

[shadow plover]

Id count 2nd ed as well

[storm jungle]

yeah but nobody was alive back then its fine

[shadow plover]

[storm jungle]

am I wrong

[queen laurel]

for the first time in forever Jerk has no retort to Dilara

[shadow plover]

aren't you old enough to contradict that

[storm jungle]

Well im 31 so i guess

but still maybe i came into existance later

[dusk patrol]

Damn look at this old hag

How was it growing up with the dinosaurs?

[shadow plover]

my favourite gifs aren't loading and I can't react anything appropriate

I'm ruined

[queen laurel]

@arctic talon question how are Wrecka krews in killteam

[dusk patrol]

https://pathtoglorypodcast.com/wrecka-crew-kill-team-review/

Here’s a review if you want some detailed thoughts

The main consensus seems to be it’s best to buy two so you can keep the selection flexible

And that it’s very solid

[dapper gyro]

I didn't know that I was chatting to a bot using a dead person's likeness.

[storm jungle]

The more things change...

[queen laurel]

hmm i see

[rose thorn]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/f07zlb44/warhammer-relics-brilliant-new-gear-from-the-warhammer-merch-store/

[shadow plover]

it's so ugly, I love it

[rose thorn]

“Wear your nice clothes hun “

[rose thorn]

Ikr

[shadow plover]

and hell yeah more Weta stuff

[storm jungle]

No way

warhammer hawaii shirt???

[queen laurel]

finally something to distract eternal for longer

[shadow plover]

they released these a couple years back as well, I wore it to my sisters wedding

[queen laurel]

this is cool though

[dusk patrol]

Eh, I don’t care for Wrath and Glory

But maybe it’ll be cool

[storm jungle]

I was interested

ugh

[celest dome]

That's a SM things ?

[shadow plover]

Consul is a catchall term for many specialized character ranks

but yes marine stuff

[storm jungle]

Yeah that, well i hope people like it i guess

anyway onto more important matters

[queen laurel]

lovely

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

They've turned them into the marketable plushies

[shadow plover]

true, but it's still first and fore most a space marine brawl setting

[storm jungle]

The ultimate tragedy.

[queen laurel]

now they have Youtooz too?

sheesh GW sure is willing to spend some more money for these things

[shadow plover]

wonder when they'll release twomad's ghost youtooz

[green loom]

Isn't he dead

Or is that a different dude

[shadow plover]

ghost

[queen laurel]

oh yeah the displate thing

[green loom]

The fucking football shirts omg

Kill me

[queen laurel]

say less

[vagrant fox]

Noice

[storm jungle]

Merchandising!

[vagrant fox]

I'd wear it to the gym

[shadow plover]

I mean it was a good bit, you can give me that

[storm jungle]

I cant wait for all the uh

"warhammer 40k is dead" statements

because god forbid

[queen laurel]

OK so these ones are recognizable characters

[vagrant fox]

https://youtu.be/2-Hp3d7lV_s

Character encyclopedia pog

[queen laurel]

who is this

[storm jungle]

A british football team

oh wait its white scars

[queen laurel]

yeah so who is the character they decided to stick the name for

i recognize the four i have no idea who this one is

[rose thorn]

I love the gaint realistic replica of the loon king

[vagrant fox]

3rd company captain for white scars

[queen laurel]

Bloody Green Grots always getting the good stuff

[storm jungle]

Are you gonna wear this during sex

[rose thorn]

I think it would look great in my post modern living room

[queen laurel]

i swear you people are poisoning GW with magical mushrooms

[vagrant fox]

Yes and I will be throat singing while plowing somebody full blown adult style

[green loom]

Oh shit I didn't know the cover art had a wideshot

[queen laurel]

@shadow plover genuine question for someone who paints are you planning to get the wicked brick display case for minis?

[storm jungle]

yo what the hell

what is this new discord image displays

I CAN ZOOM IN

[shadow plover]

I did plan on getting the original wicked brick releases or some of them but the price was way too high and I presume these will be too expensive as well

because I'd have to pay customs + vat as well

[queen laurel]

yeah GW premium quality

[green loom]

Wuhh how

[queen laurel]

on pc how

[shadow plover]

I mean the price would be fine if I were to live in the UK

but with the added tax it's ass

[green loom]

Guess it's slow content rolllout

[storm jungle]

Technology....

[green loom]

Agaim

Ugh

[storm jungle]

stop whining!

[queen laurel]

Mobile only?

[storm jungle]

im on PC

[raven stone]

Wait wait wait
A Horus Heresy Roleplay

Like OK not exactly great to RP edgy teenaged boys with massive daddy and grandaddy issues

But still

[storm jungle]

Nah 40k fans love that stuff

NO REMORSE

NO FEAR

NO (HORUS) HERESY

[raven stone]

[spare osprey]

The description is neat

[storm jungle]

Can we roleplaydate?

as we choke on nuclear fumes on Istvaan

👉👈

[raven stone]

OK there ARE human side characters

[shadow plover]

anything's possible

[spare osprey]

See in curious if like

[raven stone]

But still primarily players being a Consul

[spare osprey]

There’s a limited pool of the marines you can pick

Like only the shattered lads

[storm jungle]

I already got people on servers im in also saying they'll modify their games to have human players with marine players as well

so its not that surprising

[raven stone]

Nice

[storm jungle]

kinda surprised theres like 3 different spots im in saying this lol

then again like

HH very much turns into a normal RPG where you treat any random enemy marine you come across as a non-threat/henchman to kill

so its essentially just playing humans-but-bigger

[queen laurel]

yeah cubicle 7 to be fair is pretty good at making their systems

but sometimes you just need a bit of modification to make them more tolerable

[spare osprey]

True, there’s hundreds of thousands of marines you can kill as many as you want

[storm jungle]

^

like

to the point that Inductii are a thing

literally just Marinetide

[raven stone]

Good grief imagine, how immature it would be if some people start doing "no gurlz allowed signs" for their HH RP groups...

Wait.

[spare osprey]

[storm jungle]

https://imgur.com/gDfhCzt

[queen laurel]

i am gonna kill you for reminding me they do that

[storm jungle]

HH definitely does a "good" job of simplying the Marine/Marine conflict to like a generic fight of Good Guys vs Bad Guys Hordes lol

lol

[raven stone]

Y you killing the messenger 😦

[spare osprey]

I was reading this HH anthology. and the like last story was just a group of marines going down into a hive world and all of them just dying in waves

[storm jungle]

Yeah its legit hilarious

like I said it just turns into Marinetide

[spare osprey]

Mhm

[storm jungle]

the enemy traitor astartes may as well be just mindless goons

[raven stone]

Also also, the HH RP needs a Traitor aligned expansion

Lol

[storm jungle]

If its successful which it will 100% be it'll happen

[spare osprey]

Definitely

[raven stone]

Maybe actually show GC Imperium is not as spazzed up as it was, which is sorely needed actually

[shadow plover]

it should have a primarch expansion

[spare osprey]

I will play as the 2nd primarch

[shadow plover]

[spare osprey]

My name

[storm jungle]

Primarch expansion is peak DM going "No you are not playing as a Primarch."

[spare osprey]

Darius

[raven stone]

Primarch RP won't work

Because everyone will just off Erebus as soon as the session starts...

[storm jungle]

Haters gonna hate

Eresus is gonna keep getting Ws

[shadow plover]

he'll manage to slink away with his funky little blade

[storm jungle]

god i love him so much

[shadow plover]

truly the greatest marine character

[raven stone]

You thought you killed Erebus. But s it turns out, he is in a different cruiser.

[storm jungle]

Hes not even a character

hes just a plot device

and hes perfect

"Hi guys im here int his random HH novel to be a slimey asshole and ruin everything"

"Wow gee thanks Erebus!"

lierally all his apppearances

[shadow plover]

there should be more erebus in 40k

[storm jungle]

Ikr, hes sorely needed

i also appreciated how childishly mad the fandom gets at him

[shadow plover]

all we get is the old fart Kor Farton

[raven stone]

Should have 40k era rules.
He is canonically still alive and active.

[storm jungle]

Word Bearers are not devoted to a single chaos god

so on tabletop they kinda dont matter

minus like having rules i guess lol

[raven stone]

Some unholy Dark Apostle/Master of Posession fusion

Ruleswise

[storm jungle]

yeeee

[spare osprey]

My favorite depiction of Kor

Ever

[storm jungle]

hes SOYYINGGGGG

[green loom]

Are you prepare d

[storm jungle]

Yes

[dusk patrol]

Good so all the important options

Can just stop there

[storm jungle]

Awful

[celest dome]

I'll allow it

I'll support it even

[spare osprey]

Dweeb

[rose thorn]

I think some people should have less money, someone do my lgs has 600 dollars of stormcast dragons and he’s just, gonna get rid of it

Like, the dragon unit 13 times

[storm jungle]

Lmao

average lgs L tbh

[dusk patrol]

Well he does sound dumb

[celest dome]

Spending money is how you get less money though

[rose thorn]

I suggested he picks up crypt born so he can play the dragon army of renown and he was like ‘I should do that but I’m just gonna get rid of them’

If he sells some for a good price I might pick up a unit

[queen laurel]

guy has alot of money it seems

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[queen laurel]

Like unless you are very rich you will never hear someone say I'm just gonna throw away these expensive plastic crack

[rose thorn]

I hope he’s at least selling it

So he can buy an army he likes

[spare osprey]

Getting teeth

[storm jungle]

Ooooh this comic

I got a PDF of it online

Roberts' art is so good but im not surprised they did this only once lol

god knows how long this shit took to draw

[spare osprey]

Mhmmmm

I really do wish they did a DA one tho

I would’ve LOVED all the helmet designs it would’ve given me

[storm jungle]

Alas, close but no fallen

[spare osprey]

There’s so many good ones in this

[raven stone]

Yep I could hear him screaming like a pirate alright…

[hallow saddle]

i mean yeah fair

its an old book

But poggers

its set in like the old version of the 13th back crusade

2004 was end of 3rd/start of 4th edition wewww

[crystal forum]

yesterday i met some very nice lads in SM2

that game is less toxic than darktide

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/ena-ena-move-question-gay-gay-people-gif-21780636

[celest dome]

Why do you have a Mag gif

[crystal forum]

mag infection

highly contagious

[hallow saddle]

god DAMN i love gay people

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/car-seat-headrest-csh-will-toledo-ena-gif-26160915

Salutations

[crystal forum]

i dont understand these memes but i respect their right to exist

[half gazelle]

Very confusing

[vagrant fox]

The gays seem to like it, whatever it is

[outer wave]

https://tenor.com/view/ena-joel-g-vomit-tohei-animations-multiply-gif-20638731

[rose thorn]

She is SO ME

[outer wave]

Im excited for that game to come out

[rose thorn]

How is my fellow plastic buyers at this fine unit of time

[rose thorn]

Next month I’m so excited

[arctic talon]

Not bad

Pretty good

[outer wave]

Its been how long since it was first announced?

3 years?

[crystal forum]

trying to understand femtanyl and currently realizing how this is literally just bottom music which is why i dont get it

[rose thorn]

Barely 3 years

[outer wave]

Christ

[rose thorn]

It was revealed ENA day 3 years ago

Which was also the first ENA day

I think

[crystal forum]

there's an ena holiday?

[rose thorn]

Yes

[outer wave]

I didnt even know there was an ENA day

[rose thorn]

It was 5 days ago

[crystal forum]

i just know ena from once in a lifetime references

[rose thorn]

It’s every February 23rd

That’s why the release date was revealed that day

https://tenor.com/view/ena-temptation-stairway-joel-g-gif-20389460

Need… need… need

[raven stone]

Kinda waiting for Friday to end so I can just forget all things work related for 2 days

[rose thorn]

Aw

I am about to turn in 3 projects and cry in bed for a few hours out of joy

[vagrant fox]

I'm thinking about my old job in archaeology and I miss it

[crystal forum]

what are the projects about mag

[crystal forum]

sigsen lore

[rose thorn]

Jewish Antisemetism, and 2 chem projects

[crystal forum]

that's quite a list

[vagrant fox]

chemistry is the actual devil manifest

[rose thorn]

I was lucky the teacher gave me an extension

[rose thorn]

Imagine is math didn’t make sense

That’s chem

[crystal forum]

the worst part is how fun it is outside school

chemistry teachers have negative charisma

[vagrant fox]

mole is the dumbest unit of measurement

[crystal forum]

isn't it mol

[rose thorn]

I have to do my chem hw on this stupid AI homework thing

[vagrant fox]

whatever I hates chemistry

[rose thorn]

Tahts different

I don’t remember the difference

[crystal forum]

all i remember from highschool chemistry is doing decimals and unit precisions

for like half the class

[vagrant fox]

I've had one good chemistry teacher and he was a former artilleryman in the army, every class he'd just be drinking out of the coffee thermos

[crystal forum]

i failed that class and never had to take chemistry again in college

and hopefully never will again

material sciences is where it's at

[vagrant fox]

I hate physics

[crystal forum]

you disappoint me

[vagrant fox]

although introductory nuclear physics was fun but regardless

[hallow plover]

All I remember from uni physics classes is the endless maths

[crystal forum]

that's probably because university physics is so far away from actually doing experiments

which is the entire point of physics

[hallow plover]

You spend your whole studies doing the math by hand and in the end it's all done by the computer

And check data

[vagrant fox]

I think it occurs to me that I can't stand maths or physics because my math teacher sucked rancid ass. He'd walk around class asking people if they were stupid if they got things wrong

[crystal forum]

analyzing data is what you'll be doing the most outside school with physics

[hallow plover]

Did he threw chalk at you?

[vagrant fox]

No, he'd just berate you for sucking shit and make you present your wrong math in front of everyone

[crystal forum]

"i don't know, are you?"

[hallow plover]

What a shitty teacher

[vagrant fox]

At least he had funny stories about hemorrhoids I suppose

[crystal forum]

university professors have a chip on their shoulder a lot of the time

academia is a circlejerk

[vagrant fox]

I was also busy manifesting a mental illness so I was not doing well to begin with
At least I got through the whole ordeal

[crystal forum]

not neurotypical or slightly autistic? skill issue clearly

[vagrant fox]

Nay, the bot will censor it but it begins with s and ends with chizotypical

It was a huge blunder and skill issue on my part

[crystal forum]

just study harder

[vagrant fox]

I should redo classes and get some archaeology related classes you're right

[crystal forum]

jokes aside i love archeologists they usually seem to enjoy what they do

also it's such a cool job title

[vagrant fox]

We'd just sit in a coldass field looking at old long dead people while eating pastries, it was pleasant

[near wasp]

So I'm doing some research into Knight pilots becoming inquisitors and the community seems to think it wouldnt be possible. They claim a knight wouldn't be a good fit because all they could do is heavy assaults but that's just simply not true. Knights would be very good at navigating high society given the amount of court culture in knight worlds.

Being an Inquisitor isn't all knives in the shadows or heavy assaults. There's a lot more that goes into rooting out the enemies of mankind. Besides nobody would even have to know the knight is an Inquisitor. A free blade would be perfect cover for a more concealed Inquisitor. Who's gonna really question when a knight complement shows up. Besides anything said Inquisitor wouldn't be able to do directly, that's what the retinue is for

[vagrant fox]

Theoretically possible, but we've yet to see an instance of it as far as I know and it'd be unlikely to happen. But hey, if you want it in a story just come up with a good enough explanation

I can see a freeblade ending up with inquisitorial ties though

[near wasp]

100 percent

I just don't see why most the community thinks a knight would lack the skills or cunning to be an Inquisitor. Do they not know what goes on in high courts. Theres plenty of intrigue and backstabbing and rooting ot enemies

[dusk patrol]

It’s not impossible, just unlikely

[crystal forum]

those reasons are bullshit. an inquisitor can have any type of approach and there's many different personalities. those people should read eisenhorn.

An issue i would see with a knight inquisitor is usually inquisitors are brought into training very young and knight houses would have a conflict of interest there since pilots are valued.

[dusk patrol]

What’s much more likely is they’d have the knight in their retinue

[near wasp]

Yeah but free blades exist

[rose thorn]

Just so you know knights have manual controls

[dusk patrol]

Freeblades still grow up in the system

[crystal forum]

would the knight become an inquisitor and then become a knight or the other way around? you can't have both extreme trainings at the same time

[rose thorn]

In addition to their mind link shit

[near wasp]

Knight becomes an Inquisitor

[rose thorn]

I’d say the other way around

[dusk patrol]

It’s extremely unlikely, imo it’s a much better fit to have them be part of a retinue

[rose thorn]

But yeah

I agree with eternal

[crystal forum]

so they'd have to voluntarily want to become an inquisitor, something that is not common

[dusk patrol]

But it’s homebrew, it’s up to you

[vagrant fox]

This kind of career crossing doesn't happen a lot, but you just need what three other inquisitors to sign off on it. If you really want it, go for it

[rose thorn]

They trained an assassin for months just to be ready to control the knight

[crystal forum]

everything is possible in 40k but you'll need to have some extra explanations for the knight inquisitor backstory for it to make sense

[dusk patrol]

Also like, imo

[vagrant fox]

The question to me, outside of being able to pilot a knight, what can they do any other noble can't

[dusk patrol]

Being an inquisitor is interesting enough

[crystal forum]

also you will inevitably have 's trying to tell you you're wrong

[dusk patrol]

Same as being an RT

You dont need to stack more on

[near wasp]

Id write a backstory to make it make sense and there would be difficultlys in doing so for me and the character

[crystal forum]

a thing inquisitors tend to do is adopt habits and customs of people they have in their retinue. there's a random inquisitor in eisenhorn who dresses exactly like a cadian officer because they're stationed on cadia. you could have an inquisitor who works with knights a lot and then end up looking like one

and who knows, maybe your inquisitor was born super lucky and has the biology to be able to use knights. you could find a way for them to gain so much trust of a knight house that they end up training them in using a knight, inquisitors can have access to ridiculous amounts of gear if you want them

i see that being more likely than a knight randomly wanting to be an inquisitor

[near wasp]

Well it wouldn't be random

It would be there path took them into the inquisition and after doing work for them for so long they worked there way up the organization into becoming an Inquisitor

Wouldn't be a spur of the moment choicr

[crystal forum]

that would take a huge amount of time

[celest dome]

What could a Knight Pilot be able to give to a future Inquisitor.
What could a Noble be able to give to a future Inquisitor.

[crystal forum]

that would work but it feels contrived to me. your character will inevitably be like 200 years old

[raven stone]

The moment you have to keep reminding yourself lots of IoM high ranking members are actually geriatrics.

[half gazelle]

What if they adopt the habit of the salamanders?

[crystal forum]

the time it takes to become a knight, then become freelance, then work your way up to becoming an inquisitor instead of using rich connections... so much time for a backstory

[storm jungle]

@near wasp This is basically what you should keep in mind.

Ive seen way goofier stuff in the lore compared to something like this too tbh, just have a good enough explanation and it really is not that weird.

[raven stone]

I mean, I imagine there will be Inquisitors who prefer Marine philosophy/ideology over Ecclesiarchal ones.
But then they would be labelled Radicals. Probably.

[near wasp]

Given revue treatments and augments exist being 200 years old isn't that much of a stretch

[storm jungle]

Or any other bullshit FYI

[half gazelle]

From salamander to inquisitor?

[storm jungle]

No the original proposal he made lol

[crystal forum]

to me it would be much more fun to have an inquisitor become able to pilot a knight and work alongside knights. you can write about so many adventures they had. an inquisitor's peon is kind of just boring imo

[half gazelle]

Nono it was just a goofy idea I had

[dusk patrol]

That being said just because you can doesn’t mean you should

Hector Rex is canon

Hector Rex is also a stupid ass character

[crystal forum]

oh no don't take this as me saying they'll be too old, i'm just saying your character will have most of their backstory being a knight who tries to be an inquisitor. it's a big career change

[half gazelle]

That one guy that doesn't die because the Orks believes he doesn't

[dusk patrol]

No

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

Not how it work

[half gazelle]

Shhh

[dusk patrol]

Now go beat yourself severely

No

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

Bad meme, bad lore, bad old joke

[half gazelle]

Hah

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/we-gotta-do-better-be-better-do-better-exceed-excel-gif-13922848

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/falcon-do-better-senator-winter-soldier-marvel-gif-3005626786422545068

anyway now have your OC having met a primarch.

[half gazelle]

Im just saying what if they give him a flamethrower and put him in the heaviest populated ork planet no reinforcement just him

[crystal forum]

the great thing about an inquisitor character is how flexible you can make their career. you can do whatever the hell you want with them.

[outer wave]

He dies

[celest dome]

If we want to really consider how to roleplay a Knight who became an Inquisitor:

• Superior tactical abilities
• Hand to hand combat
• Good relations to certain Knight families (being able to field some Knights)
• Good relations to the IG (Past involvement with it)
• Good relations to the Admech
• Bad relation to the Ecclesiarchy
• Bad relation to the Astra Telepatica

[storm jungle]

^ good examples

"mary sue" seeming OC ideas work better when you apply a lot of negatives to it as well

[half gazelle]

Well yeah

[crystal forum]

will a knight really be good at combat outside their mech?

[raven stone]

I mean, the acolyte in Rogue Trader…

[near wasp]

Yeah

[half gazelle]

Isn't that what you're supposed to do?

[raven stone]

Was a Knight World dude who became an Inquisitor

[celest dome]

The Knight family train outside of the Knight combat

[storm jungle]

Well yeah they'd be trained for it

[near wasp]

They have been trained in melee combat since basically birth

[storm jungle]

^

nobles got choices

[crystal forum]

they'd be trained but they won't have a lot of experience right

[storm jungle]

I mean no

theres also no standard template for a pilot

some will have no experience

others can be trained just incase

[near wasp]

Peasant revolts

[half gazelle]

Put the nobles on the front lines and scream "F you"

[storm jungle]

they are rich people, its up to them lol

[raven stone]

Maybe the guy knew a key family secret to solving an Inquisitor’s case

[half gazelle]

Im sorry I meme too much

[crystal forum]

still that's just training. a crusty old cadian sergeant will have the experience even if very little training

[raven stone]

The point being, for any normal human being.
If you have a particular skill set OR a particularly unique knowledge that can help an Inquisitor.
They will conscript you.

[storm jungle]

I mean

what if the knight pilot is also gene-enhanced

[crystal forum]

alright fine i'll shut up

[storm jungle]

and can crack your neck with a punch

lol

[near wasp]

Yeah but getting a golden ticket would kind of ruin the hard work it'd take imo

[celest dome]

They can, you do realise that many Inquisitor come from background where many people like them aren't suited for being Inquisitors

[crystal forum]

we're talking about a knight who spent most of their life working their way up to becoming an inquisitor

[half gazelle]

"oh no the entire planet is getting overrun what do I do? Artillery fire? No no just blow up the planet"

[celest dome]

So who would seek special trainings

[hallow plover]

You just have to be spotted by the inquisitor groomer

A la eisenhorn/wheelchairman

[crystal forum]

as far as im aware a knight doesnt truly pilot until they're an adult

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-gif-10559980082154008380

[raven stone]

I find it a bit more likely said Knight is already from a Household with close ties with the Inquisition, and then one day a random Inquisitor X was like “yo hey dude I noticed you might actually be better served as an Inquisitor, would you like to try?”

The guy says yes.

[near wasp]

That feels Mary Sue tho

[crystal forum]

then how will they be trained as a knight

[hallow plover]

If you know you know

[raven stone]

Or maybe they unexpectedly developed psychic powers as a seasoned adult Knight pilot in which case they WILL be dragged away from their Knight life, become a sanctioned psyker, THEN join the Inquisition.

[crystal forum]

also as joseph said they want the knight to be a freelancer first and then join a retinue

not become an inquisitor the standard child indoctrination way

[raven stone]

Edited my suggestion :p

[half gazelle]

Talk about grabbing em when they're a kid then exposing them to leading when they dunno shi about it? YES

[crystal forum]

psyker knight inquisitor, now they're really collecting all the perks

[raven stone]

But it’s oddly possible, weirdly enough. People developing psychic powers is a thing, and Rogue Trader game outright confirms it can happen to Knight Pilots via the Acolyte’s backstory.

[half gazelle]

Might aswell say they've had close encounters with the chaos gods 🥳🥳

[near wasp]

Yeah no reason to add psyker stuff in

[half gazelle]

im just spitting what sounds cool

[near wasp]

That's even more Mary sue

[median star]

so like i know the imperial navy exist but does an actual like water navy branch still exist

do they still be boating and shit

[crystal forum]

everything is possible but when your character has that many rare cases people will just laugh at you

[raven stone]

Well the point being a seasoned adult Knight pilot CAN be made to be dragged away from that life into the Inquisition instead. I just used psyker as the most extreme example.

[half gazelle]

There is water planets so the probability is there

Can I 100% guarantee? Hell no but gotta guard em somehow

[raven stone]

Maybe the guy saw the Grey Knights and the Ordo Malleus Inquisitor doesn’t want to off him.

[crystal forum]

grey knights dont do that anymore

they'd already never do that to a knight

[celest dome]

Iirc those usually belong to the Pdf, but the IG have some Naval specialized regiments (Moebian 21st are amphibious regiments iirc)

[crystal forum]

boats are mentioned here and there in books

armageddon has some boat stuff

[raven stone]

Again: just…find a detail that works, there are perfectly reasonable reasons for a Knight pilot to be forced out of a life of Knight piloting and into the Inquisition’s service.
Even if I made bad examples, the point is it can be done.

[half gazelle]

Boat!? BOAT!? SHES A SHIP LAD!

[crystal forum]

orks had a submarine even, i think it had a model

[half gazelle]

Yeah its expensive on my last research

[crystal forum]

i keep repeating that everything is possible, that's not the point here

[median star]

do space marines have amphibious capabilities i know they can walk ocean beds etc but is their a way for them to be able to fight in water unless its at the very bottom

would power weapons be able to function under water effectively

[crystal forum]

in soul drinkers they immediately sink to the bottom of the ocean with their armour on. same happens in fulgrim when they attack the sex snake planet

[celest dome]

Their hover tanks should be able to do so

[half gazelle]

Sex snake planet hah

[crystal forum]

best way to describe that shithole

also land raider is noted to be able to function underwater

[raven stone]

so they fought avy lmaos

[crystal forum]

makes sense for a vehicle able to function in space

[median star]

is their a guard regiment known specifically for specifically defensive fighting

[crystal forum]

is this a water related question

or just defending

[median star]

defending

[half gazelle]

That will depend based on water or land

[crystal forum]

all of them

[celest dome]

The ones from Terra maybe ?

[median star]

the water related questions are on hold for now

[celest dome]

Krieg are entrenching minded too

[crystal forum]

all guard regiments are defenders first and foremost

[half gazelle]

Already too many to name off

[crystal forum]

except maybe weirdos like elysians

[half gazelle]

Yes but they do attack just in a defense style

[median star]

well obviously any of them can defend and attack but i was meaning are any extra reputable to the likes of how imperial fist are seen as the guys youd rlly want if youre defending something

[crystal forum]

go on any regiment lexi page and check out how many time defending is mentioned

it's their main thing

[near wasp]

But thanks for the help fellas I've got a pretty good idea what to do for a backstory.

Def gonna avoid them being a Mary sue

[crystal forum]

all of this is based on what others will think of your character btw, you can write whatever you want

[median star]

how long do servitors usually last

[crystal forum]

cadia lost their planet while defending idk

i can't think of any regiment that is particularly known for defending more than others

[crystal forum]

krieg are siegers, they attack a lot too

[half gazelle]

Just saying if I'm defending I want a salamander on my side.. totally don't wanna watch enemy burn

[crystal forum]

if you want a military force that pretty much only defends then make up a PDF unit

defending is part of the name

a horus heresy era militia works too and that actually has rules for it

my valhallan army is very defensive because i made them that way. i love soviet defense tactics so much

[raven stone]

Mind you, you can make a PDF with a Guard Codex even if dumbass GW shot themselves in the foot with only 3 famous regiments

[crystal forum]

still no conscripts, literally unplayable

[raven stone]

Just only have commissars and techpriests, no auxiliaries or stromtrooper equivalents

And boom, PDF

[raven stone]

GW sour about conscript tarpits slowing the likes of Guilliman and Angron

[crystal forum]

the famous 1000 dice rolls per turn army, the friendship killer

[raven stone]

“I don’t need to win or kill you, I just need to keep you tied down and committed to this close combat against 100+ conscripts until the game ends.”

[crystal forum]

"the quantity over quality army cannot have quantity or else the 100 competitive players will stop buying models every day"

[raven stone]

Again, sad that GW decided to bend the knee to the WAAC crowd

[crystal forum]

it's them who will buy models every time rules are changed

just wait for the 40 year old comp players to die of diabetes so GW can focus on something else

[raven stone]

lol

I have already decided to just collect Imperial Agents to tickle my inner desires.
I have kind of given up on the concept of being able to build a good army in a reasonable amount of time before GW tosses everything out the windows again for a new edition.

Near end of 10th I will get the Agents Codex, Boarding action book, and the points index at that time and just use that as a collection guide.

[crystal forum]

if it's not primaris space marines you should expect it to be temporarily not legends

would be nice of GW to publish their model lifetime charts but then people won't buy them 2 months before they're retired

[raven stone]

And that is the the reason why Imperial Agents did win me over.
Navis Breachers are relatively fresh enough that I can pace out my purchases without fearing it being obsoleted by production

Also Solar Aux for Voidsmen at Arms means they are likely around for a long time too

[crystal forum]

arent those just rebranded killteam units

[raven stone]

As much as it is, the models will be consistently around is what I am saying

No getting hammered like the Firstborn range

[crystal forum]

people were pissed at primaris refresh because it was like the first time astartes players had to deal with what non astartes players deal with all the time, is my theory

[raven stone]

I would say it is worse. The utter size difference and the actual rules difference just exacerbates the matter

Your comparison is a wee bit off because before that, even if the models changed, they were still mostly the same scale

And only had minor rules changes

No “ha ha firstborn squads all completely suck now”

[crystal forum]

can't you just field firstborn as primaris

i refuse to listen to anybody who complains about primaris being slightly bigger, that's pure nostalgia cope

old space marine models are inferior to primaris in design, quality, detailing and even usage on the board

[raven stone]

I mean, okay, fair, some people do in fact do that.
But my slightly OCD self likes them at the same bloody height and style.

[raven stone]

Might as well just re-instate the legion structure instead…

Like, look, if they did Primaris one squad at a time,I guess people would take it better.

[crystal forum]

the funny thing is HH tactical marines are almost the same height as primaris now but you didn't see people complain about it because muh primaris

[raven stone]

I doubt they are the same size…

The lady I checked, they are same as Deathwatch minis

And those are smaller than Primaris.

[crystal forum]

i have them right next to eachother they're nearly identical in height

you might be thinking of the older mark 4

those models are firstborns in design clearly

but newer models got shadow primaris'd

and imo they look much better

[raven stone]

Ok see if it was just a scale up like that? Annoying but fine.
I guess I am still sour because I had been waiting to start my hobby for almost a decade in HK but then when I did start it Primaris just changed evyethting.

So yea, sorry, no buenos for Primaris from me, I know I am probably perosnallu biased but I don’t care

So long as I live and breathe I will never buy a Primaris miniature :p

[crystal forum]

dont get me wrong primaris is still bullshit since it was clearly meant to force people to buy more boxes for stuff that tactical squads already did

[raven stone]

Pretty much

[vagrant fox]

It was a very interesting way of introducing them

[crystal forum]

but getting rid of firstborn rules makes sense if they were dead set on primaris. it would be too much

they didn't want firstborn to have more stuff to play with, they just wanted to get rid of how flexible tactical marines are

[median star]

i dont mind primaris except phonos armor fuck phobos armor

[crystal forum]

and model wise i'm happy. it's like the entire discussion about primaris was focused on the models which is such a dumb thing to be mad about when there's actually good reasons

arguing about nostalgia is ridiculous when people like me have only known about the setting post-primaris. non of that matters to me

[arctic talon]

Gw killed conscripts because they didn't have a mini

or rather that was their explanation

which whatever I guess

lol

[crystal forum]

the mini was regular trooper

[arctic talon]

yeah

it was

idk ask GW what their logic was lol

[arctic talon]

also regarding this firstborn squads are good rules wise often, so like thats not even true rules wise

like arguing that Primaris were better rules wise is just false

lol

because firstborn squads have been and are good

if you think their introduction sucked sure, I get that

but like meh

[crystal forum]

i just genuinely dont get how somebody who started playing post primaris would buy the firstborn models

[arctic talon]

they like them

also some of them are really good for bits

imo

[crystal forum]

i dont know anybody who does who hasn't been playing since the 2000's

[arctic talon]

I am prehistoric(I started in 7e)

Its like

a vast majority of people

did not get into 40k until post primaris lol

like, not throwing shade, not saying its bad they got in post primaris

its just true statistically, 40k was way smaller pre 8e

[crystal forum]

yes i know i missed the period when things were better

[arctic talon]

well

I don't

lol

things are better now more then ever

regarding support from GW

and them actually giving a shit

[crystal forum]

but going in without nostalgia, primaris models just look better

[arctic talon]

6e and 7e were like

grim

for the hobby

and the game as a whole lol

[crystal forum]

hell no man i hear of the time you could afford armies as this mythical era

[dusk patrol]

This is that period

[arctic talon]

there's some stuff on firstborn I like more, but I do like primaris things

[vagrant fox]

It's been a while but I don't remember a lot of good

[dusk patrol]

You’re in the good times

[arctic talon]

You can afford armies rn

wdym

GW prices are way lower then inflation

lol

[dusk patrol]

It’s hard to stress how bad it was

[arctic talon]

Its

absurd how bad it was lol

the only good part was how cheap stuff was

but that was because of like

[dusk patrol]

People have the rosiest fucking glasses ever

[arctic talon]

not inflation

[storm jungle]

People also got like

no idea how fucking bad mid/early 2000's warhammer was

40k almost died like what

[arctic talon]

yeah

[storm jungle]

4 times?

[arctic talon]

LOL

[storm jungle]

LOL

[arctic talon]

Thrice

5e

6e

7e

[storm jungle]

like, to give you an idea

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

they literally ousted their CEO

thats how bad it was

[arctic talon]

they literally took their CEO out back

and uh

disapeared him

[dusk patrol]

Kids these days don’t know how good they have it

[storm jungle]

deserved honestly

[arctic talon]

also the infamous "we are a toy company not a model company"

[crystal forum]

i'll be honest im so glad i got into HH after everything was expensive shitty resin

[dusk patrol]

The updates we’re receiving now

[arctic talon]

like

yeah they're toys

[dusk patrol]

There’s a fuckin KROOT army

[storm jungle]

To be fair, that is not wrong.

But like, dont say this to your fanbase

LMAO

[arctic talon]

but you arren't going to be putting warhammer

[dusk patrol]

Squats are back

[arctic talon]

in like

toysrus

in like

the same section as Lego

is more so my point

[storm jungle]

Yeah it has its own toy section

[dusk patrol]

Fucking genestealers got a huge line

[arctic talon]

I love my plastic toy soldiers lol

[storm jungle]

lmfao

[arctic talon]

also yeah

If you had told someone

back in 7e

that they were going to make genestealers an army

and Sisters of battle would be all plastic

[dusk patrol]

It’d be really weird if you did that now

[arctic talon]

they would literally just

laugh

like

[dusk patrol]

Since Toys R Us doesn’t exist

[crystal forum]

dont forget custodes

[arctic talon]

Custodes were

marginally more beliveable

[median star]

now all we need is an iron hand revitalization

[arctic talon]

since back then their lore was just

they were mariens but bettereer

and like that was it

But updating SoB? who needs Genestealers, just proxy with a guard army, ect.

like idk

[crystal forum]

i agree the selection is better but i look at old rules and i wish some were still available

[arctic talon]

well

yeah and nah

some old stuff was good

but I would also toss like

[storm jungle]

That is understandable but like

[arctic talon]

a solid chunk into a volcano never to be seen again

lol

[crystal forum]

and also when i got in things were shitty, things have gotten good in the last 3 years

[storm jungle]

its gone because its simply not viable

its very much a waste

[arctic talon]

no

things have been good

since you've gotten in I feel

[crystal forum]

for a guard player i mean

[arctic talon]

I mean

no

you do not

want to be a guard player in 7e