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winter vessel
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Marines Malevolent

dusk patrol
late osprey
crystal forum
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they're already part of ordo malleus

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Killteam “Acceptable Casualties”

Marine Malevolent squad lead, Red Talon Techmarine, Flesh Tearer Librarian, Star Phantom Devastator, Mortifactor Sniper, Executioner Assault marine, Minotaur Apothecary.

late osprey
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send their shittiest member

dusk patrol
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And yes they do

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Exorcists also do

vagrant fox
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I'm fairly sure you can pick them as a chapter in the Deathwatch ttrpg, along with the Minotaurs

dusk patrol
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Although they’re often specially requested

crystal forum
winter vessel
dusk patrol
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Killteam “There’s nothing friendly about my fire”

arctic talon
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Dante did not do that smh

late osprey
arctic talon
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Dante’s childhood is kind of hilarious

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He was a salt farmer and farmed salt

crystal forum
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also a lamenter gets tacked on to the team at the last minute and he gets his arm chopped off during the first engagement

dusk patrol
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We have a short of a Marine Malevolent and Salamander on the same team

late osprey
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troll watch captains

dusk patrol
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And others

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People like the stories of the friction

crystal forum
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you know it's also fully possible for a traitor legion guy to be in DW

late osprey
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"it'd be REALLY funny to put a crimson fist, imperial fist, and a black templar on the same team..."

dusk patrol
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It’s half the point

crystal forum
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so you can straight up put an iron warrior with a imperial fist

winter vessel
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Be funny if there’s a kill team where it’s a Blood Angel and the rest are from its own successor chapters that’s like being with relatives who are awkward around each other

late osprey
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aka the most boring

dusk patrol
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This Forgemaster

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dusk patrol
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And this Watch Captain

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Are on the same watch station

arctic talon
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💀

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Oh no

winter vessel
arctic talon
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At least it isn’t a red talon

late osprey
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watch captain after a gigantic jar of amasec: "Dude. I got it. An Exorcist and a Black Templar on the same team."

crystal forum
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the worst part of iron hands is they'll expect you to be as strong as their fully enhanced super duper bionics

arctic talon
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Killteam killing each other

crystal forum
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skill issue on your part

late osprey
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tech marines are fucking bullshit in DW

dusk patrol
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The Forgemaster too is such an expert on Necrons that they ignore that he sends all his findings back to the chapter

arctic talon
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Tech marines just

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Don’t fucking die

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Lol

winter vessel
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Got a cool axe though

arctic talon
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Bionics are insane in FFG

dusk patrol
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Techmarines can eventually realistically tank titans in the game

late osprey
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their goddamn servo arm is like the strongest melee weapon in the game somehow??

dusk patrol
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Not strongest but

dusk patrol
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It’s very good

arctic talon
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It’s up there

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Lol

dusk patrol
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Especially starting out

crystal forum
late osprey
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so they just one-round the boss with their bullshit gear and go "hmm. I guess flesh really IS weak innit"

arctic talon
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Based

late osprey
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and u have nothing u can say to them

crystal forum
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biblically accurate iron hand

arctic talon
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I’m sad imperium maledictum bionics aren’t as insane

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As FFG’s

winter vessel
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Any Iron Hands being in charge of a Killteam is a typical 9 to 5 ass manager

arctic talon
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You can’t literally become the consumer of las cannons

dusk patrol
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I had one game where I was at like, 16 toughness, +2 from bionics, and 21 armor with a storm shield which had a 55% chance to negate all damage

arctic talon
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And survive everything

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Honestly the lasgun quote coming from black crusade

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Of all the FFG ttrpg’s

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Is really fun

late osprey
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whats hte lasgun quote?

dusk patrol
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It’s very amusing because

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You very easily become immune to them

arctic talon
dusk patrol
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In game

arctic talon
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When in black crusade

crystal forum
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gay

arctic talon
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Smh

dusk patrol
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"The Legionnaire that scoffs at a lasgun has not charged across an open field against a hundred of them."

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i thought it was more than a hundred

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100 lasguns is still nothing

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  • Maor the Scarred, Siege-Champion of the Scargivers
arctic talon
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I mean across an open field as one dude

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You’re gona die lol

dusk patrol
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Maybe if you’re a pussy

crystal forum
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they'll all miss and shit their pants

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they're guard

dusk patrol
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Observe

arctic talon
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Anything with bionics doesn’t count

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Smh

dusk patrol
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Techmarines do create some problems though

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You become immune to a lot of types of enemy attacks fast

late osprey
crystal forum
late osprey
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its why they do old school volley fire

arctic talon
crystal forum
dusk patrol
late osprey
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"No time for aiming, just fire!" - Lord General of the Imperial Guard

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Kind of wish there was a 2e or updated Deathwatch ttrpg lads

arctic talon
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Maybe cubicle 7 will do deathwatch 2e lol

vagrant fox
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Hordes can get spooky, ish

arctic talon
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Imperium maledictum might as well be dark heresy 3e but broader

dusk patrol
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There’s some very good homebrew things

crystal forum
late osprey
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WanG is apparently the main space marine simulator these days

vagrant fox
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I tried the Only Astartes homebrew, man it was busted but I had fun

late osprey
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actually one thing i was debating with my friends was if a marine can SURVIVE (not tank) a direct hit of a melta

crystal forum
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hit where

late osprey
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like can they still be recovered and treated

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like

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Sure, depends on where

late osprey
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chest

arctic talon
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Lol

crystal forum
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where on the chest

arctic talon
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That dude is fucked

crystal forum
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they can survive losing a heart

arctic talon
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I’d say the fact there’s a massive hole in them is the bigger issue

late osprey
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cuz i know the marine's capacity to survive being a casualty is comically strong

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i think they could survive getting hit by a plasma gun even if they're taken out of action for instance

arctic talon
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I would say melta center mass to the chest kills them

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Personally at least

crystal forum
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melta wont instantly vaporize a hole through them it's not a multi melta, it'll take a decently sized chunk off them since the armour helps a bit

arctic talon
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Like it can kill tanks

crystal forum
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multi melta they're dead

arctic talon
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I’d say a marine isn’t shit

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Multi melta is 100% dead because the eat super heavies

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Melta is high chance dead because they eat tanks

crystal forum
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literally two meltas

winter vessel
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Multi Melta is what happens when you strap three microwaves together at full power and let it run for 30 secs

arctic talon
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Lol

crystal forum
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i like melta technology

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it's so simple

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you have one melta, two meltas

winter vessel
crystal forum
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not the multi melta?

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come on man

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have standards

winter vessel
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For me

crystal forum
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multi melta is just meta

late osprey
crystal forum
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nothing wrong with it

winter vessel
late osprey
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mym ain use of it is just making assaults and vanguards hate playing the game

crystal forum
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do all my work for me idc

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i'll just neo volkite

median star
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dont the blood angels have melta pistols but theyre not called melta

winter vessel
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Was not expecting the neo volkite to perform the way it does

crystal forum
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something like inferno pistol

dusk patrol
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Idk why they’re not called melta pistols

median star
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what if power fist but inferno pistols at end of fingers loregryn

crystal forum
arctic talon
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all melta pistols in 40k are called inferno pistols

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don't ask why

crystal forum
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but it's flamers

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also hand flamer is such a funny name

arctic talon
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we have a melta powerfist

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one moment

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its deathwatch only but

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you know

crystal forum
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i was gonna say the salamanders DW guy

arctic talon
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violence

winter vessel
median star
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that reminds me when power fist have like guns and shit attached does the barrel extending past the fist not ever result in complications

crystal forum
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they just slap with it

dusk patrol
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Other art of him too

crystal forum
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i dont even fully understand how power fists work

arctic talon
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Its a powerweapon

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but hand

crystal forum
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since they rely on blunt force

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but they're power so they cut stuff

median star
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thunder hammer but fist shaped me thinks

arctic talon
opaque coyote
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Its just an extension of the power weapon

opaque coyote
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It doesn't matter how the field is applied

opaque coyote
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Well it kinda does

crystal forum
opaque coyote
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But it'll apply no matter what

arctic talon
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No

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thunderhammers are different

crystal forum
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yes

arctic talon
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from a normal power hammer

winter vessel
arctic talon
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they "discharge" the powerfield

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all at once

dusk patrol
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Thunder hammers are quite a bit beyond a power hammer

storm jungle
arctic talon
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while a powerfist/power hammer

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keeps on going

storm jungle
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Like for example how do terminators reload? In novels they magnetize mags to their armor

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but on art/minis this isnt hte case

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because it looks clunky and crowded

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etc etc

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just roll with it

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Thunder hammers are actually hard for marines to control and withstand the concussion without training and even then

opaque coyote
# arctic talon they "discharge" the powerfield

So the difference is

Thunder Hammer charges up one powerful swing that will do massive damage.

... provided that you don't miss like a dumbass (me when zealot)

Power Maul and fists keep it consistent

arctic talon
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actually I just realized

median star
arctic talon
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thunderhammers(seem to be) a human invention

winter vessel
arctic talon
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a power maul/fist is like a power sword

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but blunt force trauma

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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a thunderhammer is uh

opaque coyote
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And it's fucking hilarious

arctic talon
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BIG DISCHARGE

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its why its called a thunder hammer

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because its LOUD

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See another example of a powerfield discharging wildly in the vaults of terra stuff

opaque coyote
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Like it's not even a hexagon. It's literally fucking square holes

dusk patrol
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And then there’s heavy thunder hammers the DW use

arctic talon
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where the interrogater uses the damaged croazius

dusk patrol
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Which have even more umph

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and it explodes in her hand

dusk patrol
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Shattered every bone in his body

arctic talon
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because the powerfield is damaged and it "discharges"

opaque coyote
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...

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Actually probably not

arctic talon
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when uh its not designed to contain that

arctic talon
opaque coyote
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That would probably just cause your arm to explode

arctic talon
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Daemon hammers exist which are like thunderhammers but a force weapon

dusk patrol
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Marine concussive weapons are very dangerous for normies to use

median star
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so how the custodians have the spear gun hybrid thing does that also exist for hammers

arctic talon
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No

crystal forum
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and a storm shield is a power shield

arctic talon
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but there's a sword gun hybrid

winter vessel
opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Well

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its called a daemonhammer

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because its used to smash greaterdaemon heads

dusk patrol
opaque coyote
dusk patrol
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Also, Dark Angel, Salamander, Imperial Fist.

Least amount of first founding chapters on a GW art Deathwatch squad

opaque coyote
median star
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also with power claws do they work the same way as fist ie if they back handed with it itd do the same dmg as a power fist or are the actual blades the only powered part

storm jungle
opaque coyote
winter vessel
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Power toilet

storm jungle
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and its always the "weapon" part of the weapon that does the killing/field yeah

dusk patrol
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Hotshot can also mean a normal lasgun given the amped ammo

storm jungle
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its why the rods on the weapon are always attached to that section

dusk patrol
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While hellguns are specifically made for that kind of firepower always

arctic talon
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tbh its always funny to be Eldar have power swords

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like

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And basically always have power packs

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so keep that in mind

arctic talon
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why not just force swords

storm jungle
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some literally say

arctic talon
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"hellguns and hotshot are the same thing"

arctic talon
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idk

storm jungle
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so its not worth getting into

arctic talon
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actually

opaque coyote
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I guess power swords don't need you to think

opaque coyote
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Lore accurate fr

arctic talon
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about using them

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just press the fucking button and its on

storm jungle
winter vessel
storm jungle
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you can half-ass the explanation as mistakes

arctic talon
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while a force sword does need you to like

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actively think

storm jungle
opaque coyote
winter vessel
median star
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do force fist exist or is it limited to only swords loregryn

dusk patrol
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Yeah but

winter vessel
dusk patrol
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Only on the GK Dreadknights

arctic talon
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Force swords/hammers/glaives exist

dusk patrol
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And I think their Dreads

arctic talon
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their dreads have normal power fists

arctic talon
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the dude inside is just a wizard

dusk patrol
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There’s no real reason they can’t exist tbh

arctic talon
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and can do wizard shit

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Just no one’s made them

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Cause idk why would you

storm jungle
opaque coyote
storm jungle
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like uh

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in Rites of Passage

dusk patrol
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Hammers are cooler

arctic talon
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forcestaff

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the chaos cultist uses a power-knife

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power shiv

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which is never seen anywhere else minus van saar minis

arctic talon
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well

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also the alpha legion minis

dusk patrol
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Power knives we see a fair amount

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in heresy

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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I mean

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those are space marines

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so they dont matter

arctic talon
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are wych weapons power weapons

winter vessel
arctic talon
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they can clash with power weapons

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so like

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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Discord mod, talking about people that don’t matter

median star
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okay so its just

storm jungle
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they are just alien sharp-thingies

arctic talon
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some super material

dusk patrol
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What did they mean by this?

dusk patrol
winter vessel
arctic talon
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well klaives are power weapons

arctic talon
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so I just thought I'd ask

opaque coyote
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Anyways so.

Do Thunder Swords exist

storm jungle
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No thats power-swords

arctic talon
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besides I don't care about wych cults as much as Kabalites

storm jungle
arctic talon
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Kabalites are cooler

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the coolest in fact

sharp pollen
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guys im scab fr fr

winter vessel
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Got quite the name for their arsenal

opaque coyote
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ngl

sharp pollen
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skin on my fingertips is going off

arctic talon
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Lightning claws is funny

sharp pollen
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im scaaaab

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since they're literally just

median star
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idea number seven chain weapon but the chains of the blade are powered so power chain weapon loregryn

arctic talon
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powerclaws

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but they get their own special name

arctic talon
opaque coyote
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which is why power fields usually just

opaque coyote
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But chain

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surround the entire wepaon

opaque coyote
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if its a chain weapon

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with a power field

winter vessel
median star
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so chain power weapons do exist

opaque coyote
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That is cursed

arctic talon
opaque coyote
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It’s got a power field

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In lore

median star
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huh

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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A low grade one

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Also some fancy chain weapons get power fields

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kharns axe for example

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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And corbulo’s chainsword

median star
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also why don't bolters usually have bayonets

arctic talon
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Both have power fields

arctic talon
opaque coyote
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Meanwhile the random naked woman with a giant sword

arctic talon
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Marine fist does job

opaque coyote
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"Oh cool a power field"

arctic talon
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I mean

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They’re part of the Sororitas

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They get nicer stuff

late osprey
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ladies and gentleman

winter vessel
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And mascara

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the chainfist

storm jungle
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god i hate that

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Yes

storm jungle
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lmao

arctic talon
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Also my lord

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That’s an ugly chain fist

storm jungle
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some of the new minis have it too

late osprey
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the biggest scam of the 41st millennium, that the individual fingers are not all little finger-sized chainswords

storm jungle
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like the Breachers

arctic talon
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I like the breacher chainfist

opaque coyote
winter vessel
late osprey
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imagine getting into a fight with some guy on the street and he has a knife, but hes not holding the knife like a normal human being

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he just has it taped to his fucking wrist

opaque coyote
late osprey
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"haha, didnt see this coming, did you!?"

median star
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also is their a difference that some power claws are just power fist with claws ontop of them while others the actual fingers are the claws or just artistic choice

arctic talon
opaque coyote
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That actually makes sense

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Shit

arctic talon
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They just look different

late osprey
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i mean in the arena of ridiculous weapons

sharp pollen
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what happens to children or pregnant women when they happen to appear in imperial guard? throwing away like a waste or what?

late osprey
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the power fist is BY FAR already ridiculous

winter vessel
arctic talon
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if their parents die

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LAME

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LAME CRINGE LAME

late osprey
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argenta distinctly remembers growing up in the imperial guard

sharp pollen
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presumably only going to the schola when her parents get blasted

arctic talon
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Yeah that

opaque coyote
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Pregnant woman are usually just

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Not sent to the front line

winter vessel
arctic talon
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Based on Reactor maintenance armor

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I’d rather the mega sized Tyberos art

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Then stupid ass shark parts Tyberos

keen nova
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Do other factions have anything similar to astartes? I keep hearing how T'au Battlesuits are as armored as them. Both being equivalent to light armored vehicles. (Battlesuits being better armed of course.)

This is probably worded rather poorly, I think the term is Super heavy infantry?

opaque coyote
sharp pollen
arctic talon
late osprey
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tau have battlesuits, orks have nobz

sharp pollen
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or a child gets born

dusk patrol
late osprey
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necrons have immortals (i think?)

opaque coyote
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Yeah immortals

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tyranids have hive guard

winter vessel
sharp pollen
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ah fuck my questions, this channel is a shitshow

opaque coyote
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How fucking bad were DAoT era reactors back then

dusk patrol
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Most factions have some equivalent

late osprey
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technically warriors also work but hive guard iirc were explicitly made from space marine jeans

keen nova
arctic talon
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I’m ngl

median star
arctic talon
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Void armor is

opaque coyote
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A weird inbetween power armor and carapace

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Lore wise

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Similar to skitarii warplate

storm jungle
late osprey
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there's always plenty of non-shooting work to do

viral halo
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1300 new messages since 3:30pm

viral halo
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holy moly

winter vessel
arctic talon
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Nobs™️

late osprey
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NOBZ

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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Digganobz

opaque coyote
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Bwcause

arctic talon
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Nobz are def the closest to space marines

opaque coyote
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Imperium

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In terms of like

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Big scary shocktroop with good armor and guns

opaque coyote
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Likely if somebody's pregnant, they'll just do logistics or whatever for a bit

late osprey
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you can field a Nob Mob and they're well and capable of giving a standard squad some trouble

opaque coyote
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Except probably not carrying really heavy boxes. Just list checking

storm jungle
opaque coyote
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Like

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its the problem with 40k

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anyone can kill anyone

median star
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is their like a human sized equivalent to dreadnaughts or not worth

opaque coyote
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"Yeah this is in the right order"

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lmao

keen nova
storm jungle
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go get em

opaque coyote
winter vessel
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Actually wait, wasn’t there like a female guardsman who was pregnant in one of the war of the beast(cluster fluck of a series) books? Like a brief excerpt of them wishing about their life outside of the Militarum before they died.

arctic talon
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Hearthguard are the sorta marine equivalents

sharp pollen
arctic talon
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For LoV

dusk patrol
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Yes anything can happen

storm jungle
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i remember something like that

sharp pollen
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in a fight i mean

storm jungle
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oh

opaque coyote
dusk patrol
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I’d like to watch them stick their peeners inside their butts

storm jungle
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Stick your cock into a space marine's powerpa-

vagrant fox
sharp pollen
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you said "anyone can fight anyone"

dusk patrol
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Metaphorically of course

storm jungle
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like

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Green taurox cans

storm jungle
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necrons relaistically can wipe out an entire marine company with scarabs

arctic talon
storm jungle
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because they are broken as shit

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meanwhile space marines can murder an entire horde of orks

opaque coyote
sharp pollen
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i want to see 20 million crack hobos kill CSM with a rock

storm jungle
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its comic book logic mostly

median star
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do you think we could just turns the necrons off if we brought out a big enough magnet

late osprey
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strangely enough, in 40k, it really comes down to context and individual commanders

dusk patrol
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Sentry always gets worfed as usual

dusk patrol
opaque coyote
late osprey
opaque coyote
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Like would the Imperium just be like

sharp pollen
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counter strike book? what?

dusk patrol
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I got called a prude for thinking a naked pregnant lady straddling the main character shooting people and being showered in blood is kinda weird earlier

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So hey

opaque coyote
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"Continue fighting."

winter vessel
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Most likely

late osprey
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"yeah a bunch of hobos jumped on the grav tank and threw rocks in the engines so that destroyed it and killed all the eldar LAWL!"

arctic talon
storm jungle
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when the author himself gets fired

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that kinda tells you enough

opaque coyote
dusk patrol
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Someone was getting off to that in the offices

opaque coyote
dusk patrol
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I just know it

arctic talon
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CS Goto literally had a tank pilot get sodimized with a stick

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So

late osprey
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Yeah I’d say there was something going on

keen nova
opaque coyote
vagrant fox
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goto was too good for black library

winter vessel
storm jungle
dusk patrol
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It’s for building character

storm jungle
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bad

dusk patrol
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Your character

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For having to read that shit

storm jungle
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real

late osprey
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CS Goto was what we call avant-garde, he was pushing the setting to its limits, going where nobody else would go

storm jungle
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I forgot who it was here

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who read like the books just to see how they were

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and barely managed it

late osprey
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Sorry, you DONT like CS Goto? Go back to your bolter-porn, normie.

storm jungle
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even tho i warned him

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stupid bastard

opaque coyote
# storm jungle **bad**

Yeah no shit. How the fuck did that even happen? Did some daemonette do a prank by sticking a metal bar on the seat or something?

median star
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iv not read a single book to date chadgryn

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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How to tell if pergarante?

storm jungle
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STOP TALKING ABOUT PREGNANCY

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YOU FUCKING IDIOTS

keen nova
vagrant fox
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get pargnant

late osprey
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how is 40k babby formed?

dusk patrol
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Can you get pomegranate if on top?

keen nova
opaque coyote
sharp pollen
storm jungle
vagrant fox
winter vessel
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That emoji

median star
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you think an iron hand could make it work with a servitor

opaque coyote
dusk patrol
late osprey
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Maybe Horus had a point.

dusk patrol
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I think my foot can make it work with your ass

opaque coyote
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prangnet

winter vessel
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Haha

late osprey
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Society ruled by his war-crazy psychos is bound to be better than this.

sharp pollen
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fuck

winter vessel
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Haven’t see that in a while

sharp pollen
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the army got killed

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immediatly

winter vessel
median star
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you think the iron hands get freaky when its just them and an ancient dreadnaught battle brother in the room

vagrant fox
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space marines, fundamentally, are gachi. so yes

winter vessel
late osprey
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honestly if i was Horse i'd probably have let Lorgar take over so we could actually win the war

winter vessel
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Honse

late osprey
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i'd probably have let Logger take over

winter vessel
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Leroy.

late osprey
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why do you think an imperial-aligned agent thwarted the coup?

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would lorgar really have been a better leader?

vagrant fox
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who would listen to lorgar

gray umbra
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Lorgar was always a massive crybaby

late osprey
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you'd think nobody, so letting the coup go through would be better for the Imperium

gray umbra
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Hes the lil bro everyone picked on

late osprey
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except they intervened

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so maybe Lorgar really was the most powerful of them all

crystal forum
winter vessel
sharp pollen
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at the moment, is Gooli-man 24/7 monitoring and commanding? or he has some free time?

crystal forum
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i respect lorgar's dedication to fucking up the imperium slowly

gray umbra
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Yeah he stepped up during the heresy and grew some balls

late osprey
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ok unironically my theory is that Lorgar would've probably won the Horus Heresy if he was able to take it over from Horus

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which is why an argonaut stepped in

gray umbra
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Angron is the mentally ill kid who everyone knows is gonna shoot up the school one day

crystal forum
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the heresy relied too much on horus by the end

late osprey
sharp pollen
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i dont get the joke...

late osprey
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He's filing taxes.

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He can't do anything.

sharp pollen
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im not american or european to laugh at jokes about taxes

gray umbra
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Speaking of which..

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I should file soon..

raven stone
late osprey
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well horus did make some troll moves by the end there

crystal forum
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it's also pretty funny how terra only won because horus died. the heretics were still winning until they had the psykic backlash

late osprey
#

like pulling perturabo off the siege

winter vessel
gray umbra
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I thought everything was falling apart because horus was progressively losing his shit

raven stone
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Pert just got pissed off by that.

late osprey
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hes literally like "argghhhh this siege on the most fortified planet ever is taking too long!!!! best siege master in the galaxy, you're fired!!!"

sharp pollen
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horus' periods just kicked in

late osprey
#

like ???

raven stone
late osprey
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look

raven stone
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Which is still a low bar

late osprey
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all im saying is

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if LORGAR was the leader of the heresy

opaque coyote
late osprey
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things wouldve gone a lot different

opaque coyote
#

Huh sweet

late osprey
#

it'd probably be a Chaos Imperium

crystal forum
opaque coyote
sharp pollen
raven stone
dusk patrol
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Chaos rejected him

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Which is why he took most his legion and left

winter vessel
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Guiliman had the worst experience throughout the siege of Terra. Him and his Legion were the equivalent of being stuck on a highway traffic jam while screaming “WERE ON OUR WAY JUST A LITTLE LONGER”

raven stone
storm jungle
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and saw like

gray umbra
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Lol

storm jungle
#

10000000 Vengeful Spirits

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that part was so fucking funny

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"You sure you got that right?"

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"Yes sir its all vengeful spirits"

winter vessel
#

The best

late osprey
gray umbra
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Guy is about to close a deal but ran into a 20 car pileup on his way to the meeting

dusk patrol
crystal forum
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zerking yourself

raven stone
winter vessel
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Very short

crystal forum
#

do they have human ear as well

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or is their head smooth on the sides

opaque coyote
late osprey
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thats always the million dollar question inni

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t

crystal forum
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us furries just accept it

winter vessel
opaque coyote
#

nuclear bomb

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exterminatus

crystal forum
#

nuclear bomb shield

late osprey
#

i gotta say i love the phrase Dramatis Personae

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warhammer introduced it to me

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very cool

crystal forum
median star
#

how long did it take from istvan massacre to siege of terra

late osprey
crystal forum
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9 years

late osprey
#

or isstvaan time

crystal forum
#

you dont even know istvan time

winter vessel
median star
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do you think emp knew terra was the end goal for them

opaque coyote
#

it's like

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the center of his empire

late osprey
#

you dont have to be an oracle to guess that's where they were headed

crystal forum
median star
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idk he mightve thought theyd just fuck off and do their own thing

crystal forum
#

the fuck do you think

opaque coyote
late osprey
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"Okay, theey probably just want to be left alone so they'll leave the galaxy and we can rebuild from there."

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'erm... empror sir, they're coming to terra'

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"Oh, fuck."

opaque coyote
#

like that was one of their main goals

crystal forum
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just ignore my son until he leaves

opaque coyote
#

literally to murder their dad

opaque coyote
late osprey
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"If we just pretend we're not here, they'll get bored."

crystal forum
median star
#

you think curze or sanguinis might e at one point mayhaps hinted that wouldve all happened intentionally or not

opaque coyote
#

with huge differences

crystal forum
#

curze was too busy being a drama bitch

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i love how in the NL trilogy he straight up has dementia

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he forgets his first company captain died centuries ago

opaque coyote
#

Russ and Mortarion fucking hated psykers.

Magnus was like the exact opposite

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in fact a little too into it to the point where he was stupi

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d

median star
late osprey
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man imagine being in a legion that ends up getting a shitty primarch

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id be so frustrated

crystal forum
#

finger painting magic

late osprey
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especially when i look out the window and see another legion getting Guilliman or something

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i look back and we're stuck having to take care of angron

crystal forum
crystal forum
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but they're also pissed because butcher's nails

median star
#

im surprised iron hands and iron warriors werent big psyker haters

opaque coyote
late osprey
vagrant fox
opaque coyote
#

Magnus makes fun of it though because it's obviously psyker shit.

gray umbra
#

I would too

crystal forum
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entitled much

vagrant fox
#

thus, they should've killed him

late osprey
#

"oh boy big E says we're finally getting our primarch to lead us in a glorious multi-millennia campaign"

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perturabo walks in

opaque coyote
gray umbra
#

They probably would have if he kept beating his legion members to death

opaque coyote
#

having all of his friends and adoptive family basically die for nothing

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while he's left a broken mess

crystal forum
vagrant fox
#

Angron should simply not have been a failure, sheer skill issue on his behalf

opaque coyote
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not at all

crystal forum
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the emperor killed my troops so i'll kill my next ones myself

opaque coyote
#

but i don't think he even thought about it. He was quite literally insane

median star
#

i still find it funny curze came back to his home planet to go "damn so thats how it is" and just blow it up no questions asked

gray umbra
#

He wasnt insane. He was angron

crystal forum
#

he should have found coping mechanisms that didn't include killing his soms

gray umbra
#

Nostramo was a giant fuck you to curze's entire philosophy

crystal forum
#

instead he went to khorne which literally only makes him even more ADHD

opaque coyote
crystal forum
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you can be blamed for not fixing your own issues, angron isn't a victim of circumstances he's a fucking demigod

opaque coyote
#

he caused his own downfall

median star
opaque coyote
#

but part of his downfall was caused by factors out of his control

gray umbra
#

Literally all justification for the things he does is contradicted and he just becomes another deranged murderer

opaque coyote
#

it doesn't excuse him

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like at all

vagrant fox
#

Well Angron did have parts of his brain replaced by a computer telling him to kill or it'd leave him in agony, because Angron was a little failure

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It's hard to control yourself with that thing in

opaque coyote
#

but he literally has something that was damaging his brian

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his capacity for thought was literally being melted

crystal forum
gray umbra
#

Yeah its really just the emperor was a bad dad

crystal forum
#

make a giant arena for killing robots or something

opaque coyote
crystal forum
#

my ADHD isn't removable

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i still find coping mechanisms

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he tried NOTHING

gray umbra
#

He probably wouldnt be so deranged if they liberated the planet

opaque coyote
gray umbra
#

Like still aggro as fuck but at least he would be compliant

opaque coyote
#

also his brain was literally being melted

median star
#

maybe im simplifying it but i think adhd and metal murder brain worms maybe a bit different

crystal forum
#

use an entire planet as a killing ground

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he's a PRIMARCH

opaque coyote
#

like i think you're forgetting that the butchers nails that angron and the gladiators got literally melts their brains until they can think nothing but violence

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to the point where some had to be put down like rabid dogs because they could no longer think. just kill.

vagrant fox
opaque coyote
crystal forum
#

the nails weren't removable but he didn't turn insane without chaos

opaque coyote
#

His brain was still melting but at a slower rate.

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Also it kinda wasn't his choice to turn to Khorne. Lorgar literally forced him against his will

median star
#

if i recall he was on the brink of death from the nails when lorgar basically gave him to khorne

opaque coyote
#

Because he was fucking dead at the time

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He literally couldn't say shit

opaque coyote
crystal forum
#

his path was leading to it

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he did that to himself

opaque coyote
#

Again, the Butchers nails

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literally melts your brain

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even a primarch's

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I don't think you can control actual fucking brain damage Jay

dusk patrol
#

Maybe you can’t

crystal forum
#

i hate how tragic every writer tries to make angron

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at least curze and perturabo are clearly just pieces of shit

opaque coyote
#

I do concede on the fact that Angron definitely caused his own downfall. Especially to his sons.

But the violence thing was literally just... uncontrollable.

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His main sin ironically was apathy.

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He didn't stop his sons from nailing themselves

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Or continue fighting

median star
#

pert was always going to be a dickhead curze became a dickhead because of his surroundings i think

opaque coyote
#

He just gave up

winter vessel
#

Three books, I have enough loose change to get one.

crystal forum
#

acting like they'll never be good enough for him

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he's the embodiment of the cycle of familial abuse

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a dirtbag

median star
dusk patrol
#

Like, yeah they had a rough start

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Well, Angron did

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Curze and Perturabo had some of the easiest worlds

opaque coyote
crystal forum
#

it's like talking about hitler's abusive father like who gives a fuck

dusk patrol
#

They make bad choices

arctic talon
#

Perturabo’s biggest issue

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Was himself

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Lol

dusk patrol
#

Always

opaque coyote
# dusk patrol They make bad choices

I think I like Angron the most in being a dickhead. Because part of the reason why people are dickheads is because of uncontrollable factors.

But they make it worse through their own choices.

storm jungle
winter vessel
median star
#

pert literally had gmans upbringing almost identically and still came out a dickhead granted he did have that thing were i think its said he could always subconsciously see the eye of terror

arctic talon
#

Not Leviathan

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Imo

winter vessel
#

At least worthwhile

arctic talon
#

Was also like

vagrant fox
#

Dark Imperium was at least decent in many parts

arctic talon
#

His own fault

opaque coyote
#

It literally just makes you kill uncontrollably btw. Like it activates at random times.

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Like you can just be reading and suddenly the nails activate

crystal forum
#

i hate the fact that he's depicted as the nicest primarch before the nails it's such pointless information to make him look more tragic

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it serves 0 purpose other than make him look more tragic

median star
#

like ferrus,corax,vulkan,russ all definitely didnt have great child hoods but turned out relatively well

storm jungle
# winter vessel Three books, I have enough loose change to get one.
  • Leviathan is not great, if you want a mindless space marine book where Nids win at the end get it but otherwise its not much. The Marines got no idea how tyranids operate even tho they are ultramarines and have fought two fucking wars against them and the novel largely explores nothing about the 4th Tyrannic War aside from introducing some of the new units.

  • Dark Imperium is Ok but its kinda whatever and also one in a series but it again doesnt really explore much and is just a bolterporn novel.

  • Saints and Martyrs is hit/miss unless you are a big Sororitas fan.

vagrant fox
#

The nails also just kind of make you feel pain from doing anything that isn't tearing a mans ass wide open with your hands, it's wacky stuff. The Imperium should use it more

crystal forum
#

archeotech

opaque coyote
crystal forum
#

the butchers nails used by regular world eaters are alibaba versions

vagrant fox
#

Good enough innit

opaque coyote
#

the alibaba ahh versions

arctic talon
#

Tbh

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The mechanicus has alternatives

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Lol

vagrant fox
#

Put the discount nails into a bunch of fanatics and watch them go

arctic talon
#

Arcoflagellants

crystal forum
arctic talon
#

Chrono gladiators

opaque coyote
vagrant fox
#

Yeah true, but they're too mindwiped for my likes

arctic talon
#

Thallax

opaque coyote
winter vessel
crystal forum
#

dont those skull assassins also jave that

arctic talon
#

Aside from the heart

vagrant fox
#

mechanicus sucks dookie ass

arctic talon
#

Eversor’s are just high off their ass

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On juice

#

They’re still lucid

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

They’re just murderous psychopathic assholes

storm jungle
#

those are like some REALLY mid books

median star
#

in an alternate timeline angron prob falls to slaneesh to be able to feel anything other then rage

crystal forum
#

which primarchs would sell models for khorne then

median star
#

sanguinis

opaque coyote
median star
#

dorn

crystal forum
#

dorn?????

vagrant fox
#

Guilliman has a temper sometimes, he just needs to be convinced to go over the edge

median star
opaque coyote
#

"I have to wear gloves because I'm afraid I'll get a skin contact high while opening their chests."

storm jungle
#

Khorne literally tries to ensare the Blood Angels constantly

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because they wear red

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🧠

arctic talon
vagrant fox
#

jamie post that fanart of big titty khorne using magic on dorn

crystal forum
#

khorne really takes anybody with a pulse who's angry

opaque coyote
winter vessel
opaque coyote
#

"No. That is stupid."

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"Come on pleasseee. We got blood!"

crystal forum
#

a skull throne is not structurally sound

opaque coyote
median star
arctic talon
crystal forum
#

the voice actors are good and i dont go on reddit so i like TTS memes

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fuck you all

storm jungle
#

Like

#

TTS

#

Kill this bastard

vagrant fox
#

I should kill whoever made TTS

winter vessel
#

Abelard smack his nuts

crystal forum
#

let me friend you dilara you fuck

half gazelle
opaque coyote
#

the most generic voice ever

#

so

#

yeah

storm jungle
#

okay so starting off

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in the novels its established and SAID CONSTANTLY

winter vessel
storm jungle
#

that the throne is impractical

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and it literally damages/wounds the owner

#

its made to be purposefuly uncomfortable as well so the ruler actually feels the pressure of their role

arctic talon
#

Not 100%

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But yeah it uses actual metal for the prop

crystal forum
#

you should see the approved throne art

arctic talon
#

Lol

crystal forum
#

it's massive

storm jungle
#

^

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in the novels its gigantic

arctic talon
#

Iirc it’s like

storm jungle
#

its like made fro ma continent amount ofs words

arctic talon
#

Wood + metal

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And plastic

hallow plover
#

The mad king kept cutting himself on the throne ||what a loser||

dusk patrol
#

It’s much bigger in the novels yeah

storm jungle
#

this fanart is the one George approved of iirc

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like "this is how i see it"

half gazelle
#

Its an insane amount of stuff.

arctic talon
storm jungle
crystal forum
#

unironically that amount of swords to weld together would have costed so much for the show

winter vessel
storm jungle
half gazelle
storm jungle
#

Yep.

dusk patrol
storm jungle
#

I just posted that

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fucking snail

dusk patrol
#

Nu uh

storm jungle
winter vessel
# dusk patrol

This be the thing Sandy tells SpongeBob to “find the hay in the needle stack”

crystal forum
#

how to flex on your enemies with style

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use their swords as a throne

dusk patrol
#

They did make it a little more like the novel one for HotD

half gazelle
#

"the fuk you mean nu uh" (insert that one star wars nuh uh not my dad skit)

dusk patrol
#

But I get why they didn’t want to do that

storm jungle
#

yeah it literally costs too much lol

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its VERY difficult

dusk patrol
#

Also, in GoT it kinda has a nice symbolism of the legend being more than the actual thing

storm jungle
#

that too yeah

dusk patrol
storm jungle
#

YEP

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which is ironic

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but you get the point lmao

crystal forum
#

even if they made the swords out of simple pieces of aluminum it would cost so much to CNC or god forbid forge

dusk patrol
#

They roped it off during HotD

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And I think someone still got hurt

hallow plover
#

You don't have to forge it when dragons can melt it

winter vessel
#

Hah

storm jungle
#

Yeah the ones they placed around the throne are like impaling hazards lol

crystal forum
#

they should have used foam

#

foam swords can look very sharp

storm jungle
#

even that would take time

half gazelle
#

Its dangerous, really shows what youll be doing all your life, and youll hate the ruling. It also seems to symbolize "heavy is the head that wears the crown" only well more tetanus and HIV.

median star
#

couldve even used cgi

crystal forum
storm jungle
crystal forum