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well marines can be malevolent to xenos and thats less of a big deal
there's no way they contribute to DW
they're already part of ordo malleus
Killteam “Acceptable Casualties”
Marine Malevolent squad lead, Red Talon Techmarine, Flesh Tearer Librarian, Star Phantom Devastator, Mortifactor Sniper, Executioner Assault marine, Minotaur Apothecary.
they do it malevolently
send their shittiest member
Not exorcists
And yes they do
Exorcists also do
I'm fairly sure you can pick them as a chapter in the Deathwatch ttrpg, along with the Minotaurs
Although they’re often specially requested
Yeah
"we genuinely dont care how good you guys are we are sending you in the eye of terror and expect you to die"
Hah, I call that Kill Team “It was Collateral”
Killteam “There’s nothing friendly about my fire”
Dante did not do that smh
it'd be a shitty watch captain that DOESN'T put compatible chapter cultures together
also a lamenter gets tacked on to the team at the last minute and he gets his arm chopped off during the first engagement
Tbh it’s mostly it makes for a fun story
We have a short of a Marine Malevolent and Salamander on the same team
troll watch captains
you know it's also fully possible for a traitor legion guy to be in DW
"it'd be REALLY funny to put a crimson fist, imperial fist, and a black templar on the same team..."
It’s half the point
so you can straight up put an iron warrior with a imperial fist
Be funny if there’s a kill team where it’s a Blood Angel and the rest are from its own successor chapters that’s like being with relatives who are awkward around each other
i believe the door is slightly ajar for that yeah, but they're all blackshields
aka the most boring
This Forgemaster
you are not surviving his leadership
It’s like I’m seeing two different ends of a spectrum
At least it isn’t a red talon
watch captain after a gigantic jar of amasec: "Dude. I got it. An Exorcist and a Black Templar on the same team."
the worst part of iron hands is they'll expect you to be as strong as their fully enhanced super duper bionics
Killteam killing each other
skill issue on your part
the worst part is this is mechanically impossible too
tech marines are fucking bullshit in DW
The Forgemaster too is such an expert on Necrons that they ignore that he sends all his findings back to the chapter
Got a cool axe though
Bionics are insane in FFG
Techmarines can eventually realistically tank titans in the game
their goddamn servo arm is like the strongest melee weapon in the game somehow??
Not strongest but
It just works
It’s very good
Especially starting out
"do i look like an apothecary? just make sure your armour and bolter stay in one piece when you die"
so they just one-round the boss with their bullshit gear and go "hmm. I guess flesh really IS weak innit"
Based
and u have nothing u can say to them
biblically accurate iron hand
Any Iron Hands being in charge of a Killteam is a typical 9 to 5 ass manager
You can’t literally become the consumer of las cannons
I had one game where I was at like, 16 toughness, +2 from bionics, and 21 armor with a storm shield which had a 55% chance to negate all damage
And survive everything
Honestly the lasgun quote coming from black crusade
Of all the FFG ttrpg’s
Is really fun
whats hte lasgun quote?
The legionary who does not fear the lasgun quote
In game
When in black crusade
that comes from a game?
gay
"The Legionnaire that scoffs at a lasgun has not charged across an open field against a hundred of them."
- Maor the Scarred, Siege-Champion of the Scargivers
Maybe if you’re a pussy
Observe
Techmarines do create some problems though
You become immune to a lot of types of enemy attacks fast
guard tactics keep their shitty aim in mind
that's why you're not invited to the iron hand barbeque
its why they do old school volley fire
Nah that’s why im part of it, because I face tanked a multi melta
that literally is done because 60% of the shots are going to miss

"No time for aiming, just fire!" - Lord General of the Imperial Guard
Kind of wish there was a 2e or updated Deathwatch ttrpg lads
Maybe cubicle 7 will do deathwatch 2e lol
Hordes can get spooky, ish
Imperium maledictum might as well be dark heresy 3e but broader
There’s some very good homebrew things
iron hands dont respect you just for surviving stuff, do they look like blood angels?
WanG is apparently the main space marine simulator these days
I tried the Only Astartes homebrew, man it was busted but I had fun
actually one thing i was debating with my friends was if a marine can SURVIVE (not tank) a direct hit of a melta
hit where
Sure, depends on where
chest
Lore wise to the main torso no
Lol
where on the chest
That dude is fucked
they can survive losing a heart
I’d say the fact there’s a massive hole in them is the bigger issue
cuz i know the marine's capacity to survive being a casualty is comically strong
i think they could survive getting hit by a plasma gun even if they're taken out of action for instance
melta wont instantly vaporize a hole through them it's not a multi melta, it'll take a decently sized chunk off them since the armour helps a bit
Like it can kill tanks
multi melta they're dead
I’d say a marine isn’t shit
Multi melta is 100% dead because the eat super heavies
Melta is high chance dead because they eat tanks
literally two meltas
Multi Melta is what happens when you strap three microwaves together at full power and let it run for 30 secs
Lol
I’m ashamed to say it’s become the #1 weapon for me to use in SM2
multi melta is just meta
its great but the fall-off for it is nuts
nothing wrong with it
Fair. Like you gotta be really in the thick of it to clean house
mym ain use of it is just making assaults and vanguards hate playing the game
dont the blood angels have melta pistols but theyre not called melta
Was not expecting the neo volkite to perform the way it does
something like inferno pistol
Infernus pistols
Idk why they’re not called melta pistols
what if power fist but inferno pistols at end of fingers 
it sucks so much against heavy nids but it's so good against little shitters and it murders flying bombs
Inferno pistols are melta pistols yeah
all melta pistols in 40k are called inferno pistols
don't ask why
aggressors almost have that
but it's flamers
also hand flamer is such a funny name
i was gonna say the salamanders DW guy
violence
😂 the little stub at the end of it
that reminds me when power fist have like guns and shit attached does the barrel extending past the fist not ever result in complications
they just slap with it
Other art of him too
i dont even fully understand how power fists work
thunder hammer but fist shaped me thinks
its contained in the power field so it doesn't matter once you're swinging
Power fields are a field that destabilize molecules
Its just an extension of the power weapon
It doesn't matter how the field is applied
yeah that gif
Well it kinda does
so it should be called a thunder fist
But it'll apply no matter what
yes
from a normal power hammer
The grimdark version of doing dental work
Thunder hammers are quite a bit beyond a power hammer
The reality with warhammer equipment is you should not question it.
It is here to first look cool and nothing else.
Like for example how do terminators reload? In novels they magnetize mags to their armor
but on art/minis this isnt hte case
because it looks clunky and crowded
etc etc
just roll with it
Thunder hammers are actually hard for marines to control and withstand the concussion without training and even then
So the difference is
Thunder Hammer charges up one powerful swing that will do massive damage.
... provided that you don't miss like a dumbass (me when zealot)
Power Maul and fists keep it consistent
actually I just realized
they all secretly have the destroyer plague 
thunderhammers(seem to be) a human invention
Star field manages to suck at both on that with their weapons
Yes
a power maul/fist is like a power sword
but blunt force trauma
The Starfield shotgun is literally them fitting a round peg in square holes
a thunderhammer is uh
And it's fucking hilarious
BIG DISCHARGE
its why its called a thunder hammer
because its LOUD
See another example of a powerfield discharging wildly in the vaults of terra stuff
Like it's not even a hexagon. It's literally fucking square holes
And then there’s heavy thunder hammers the DW use
where the interrogater uses the damaged croazius
Which have even more umph
and it explodes in her hand
Shattered every bone in his body
because the powerfield is damaged and it "discharges"
Do Thunder Fists exist
...
Actually probably not
when uh its not designed to contain that
as far as we know no
That would probably just cause your arm to explode
Daemon hammers exist which are like thunderhammers but a force weapon
Marine concussive weapons are very dangerous for normies to use
so how the custodians have the spear gun hybrid thing does that also exist for hammers
No
and a storm shield is a power shield
but there's a sword gun hybrid
Buddy in the back was not even worth getting stabbed by lightning claws
Instead of Thunder-like discharge, it's Joe the Daemon!
I appreciate they manage to give the battle shit “faces” a look of surprise
Oh like
How the Hellguns are named... Hellguns. Wtf is the other name for them again I genuinely forgot
Also, Dark Angel, Salamander, Imperial Fist.
Least amount of first founding chapters on a GW art Deathwatch squad

also with power claws do they work the same way as fist ie if they back handed with it itd do the same dmg as a power fist or are the actual blades the only powered part
Hotshot
if it has "power" in it they all work the same way
Yeah.
...damn that's a stupid alternative name
Power toilet
and its always the "weapon" part of the weapon that does the killing/field yeah
Hotshot can also mean a normal lasgun given the amped ammo
its why the rods on the weapon are always attached to that section
While hellguns are specifically made for that kind of firepower always
Makes sense yeah
And basically always have power packs
Yeah but no author remembers this
so keep that in mind
why not just force swords
some literally say

"hellguns and hotshot are the same thing"
idk
actually
Tbf I doubt imperials in universe also remember either
I guess power swords don't need you to think
Lore accurate fr
best part of 4 0k
Inconsistency is what is consistent in 40k
you can half-ass the explanation as mistakes
Too true
I mean soldiers would probably make the same mistake irl tbh
thinks of brain aneurysm meme
do force fist exist or is it limited to only swords 
Yeah but
Thank goodness he kept the helmet on
Only on the GK Dreadknights
Force swords/hammers/glaives exist
And I think their Dreads
their dreads have normal power fists

the dude inside is just a wizard
There’s no real reason they can’t exist tbh
and can do wizard shit
any force/power weapon can exist
"Give me a clip"
"You mean a magazine you degenerate."
"Bro I am literally being suppressed by enemy fire, just give me ammo before I shoot you then me."
Hammers are cooler
forcestaff
the chaos cultist uses a power-knife
which is never seen anywhere else minus van saar minis
Power knives we see a fair amount
in heresy
I'm more concerned about why that's even a thing
are wych weapons power weapons
I die on that hill. “Say it right, you Hollywood degenerate!”
Nah
Discord mod, talking about people that don’t matter
when are we getting a force chain axe 
okay so its just
they are just alien sharp-thingies
some super material
What did they mean by this?
🫵

well klaives are power weapons
so I just thought I'd ask
Anyways so.
Do Thunder Swords exist
No thats power-swords
besides I don't care about wych cults as much as Kabalites

guys im scab fr fr
Got quite the name for their arsenal
Yeah but I thought like.
If thunder and power hammers are separate things.
Thunder Swords should be a thing
ngl
skin on my fingertips is going off
Lightning claws is funny
im scaaaab
since they're literally just
idea number seven chain weapon but the chains of the blade are powered so power chain weapon 
Powering each individual tooth is a nightmare
Chain knife is just one of those weird plastic knives
which is why power fields usually just
But chain
surround the entire wepaon

Feel like that would explode when you try to activate it
so chain power weapons do exist
I mean that’s what the evicerator is

huh
Just a very tiny one
A low grade one
Also some fancy chain weapons get power fields
kharns axe for example
"bro trust me power fields are rare"
And corbulo’s chainsword
also why don't bolters usually have bayonets
Both have power fields
Not needed
Meanwhile the random naked woman with a giant sword
Marine fist does job
"Oh cool a power field"
ladies and gentleman
And mascara
the chainfist
god i hate that
Although ig it's more like
Powerful power fields are rare
Yes
lmao
some of the new minis have it too
the biggest scam of the 41st millennium, that the individual fingers are not all little finger-sized chainswords
like the Breachers
I like the breacher chainfist
Since it doesn't make sense to give like an expensive power fields to forces that are literally expected to die
It’s as if they weaponized the McDonald’s playplace
They’re l reusable
imagine getting into a fight with some guy on the street and he has a knife, but hes not holding the knife like a normal human being
he just has it taped to his fucking wrist
I still have no idea why that's a thing. But 40k so fuck it
"haha, didnt see this coming, did you!?"
also is their a difference that some power claws are just power fist with claws ontop of them while others the actual fingers are the claws or just artistic choice
It’s for cutting open bulkheads
They function the same effectively
They just look different
i mean in the arena of ridiculous weapons
what happens to children or pregnant women when they happen to appear in imperial guard? throwing away like a waste or what?
the power fist is BY FAR already ridiculous
Then you got tyberos and his choice of weapon placement
Children get sent to the Schola often
if their parents die
Fanart giving him shark teeth
LAME
LAME CRINGE LAME
argenta distinctly remembers growing up in the imperial guard
pretty far from planets where a war is going on, no?
presumably only going to the schola when her parents get blasted
Yeah that
So it's the classic Imperial method of "Using DAoT era tools as weapons".
Similar to how Terminator armor was originally used as construction equipment.
I just can’t believe he got the chain teeth at the palm of where his hand is
Not true, it’s
Based on Reactor maintenance armor
I’d rather the mega sized Tyberos art
Then stupid ass shark parts Tyberos
Do other factions have anything similar to astartes? I keep hearing how T'au Battlesuits are as armored as them. Both being equivalent to light armored vehicles. (Battlesuits being better armed of course.)
This is probably worded rather poorly, I think the term is Super heavy infantry?
Ah.
Still fucking wild though
i mean, what if there is a pregnant woman and then commisar says "1 week before big confrontation, get ready"
most factions do actually
For elite shock troop infantry yeah there’s usually something similar
tau have battlesuits, orks have nobz
Chaos Space Marines
or a child gets born

necrons have immortals (i think?)
It's like the equivalent of using a hazmat suit as a fucking suit of armor.
Yeah immortals
tyranids have hive guard
You are this close to making me post sgt_lonely’s artwork of this
ah fuck my questions, this channel is a shitshow
How fucking bad were DAoT era reactors back then
Most factions have some equivalent
technically warriors also work but hive guard iirc were explicitly made from space marine jeans
Probably get sent to die
Ain't no way
I’m ngl
i think pretty much all votann are already in powersuits and use bolters/plasma weapons if im not mistaken
Void armor is
Better hope the water doesn't break while you're shooting down tyranids
A weird inbetween power armor and carapace
Lore wise
Similar to skitarii warplate
i mean its still a military
- Nids got Warriors
- Eldar got Aspect Warriors
- Dark Eldar got Wyches/Incubi etc
- Tau got Battlesuits
- Necrons got anything that hits a space marine with a gauss/eraser gun so basically all their units, even scarabs
- Orks got anything that can also just swarm them I guess, fucking yolo
- Chaos got CSM
- Votann got uhhh idk cock and stone
there's always plenty of non-shooting work to do
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Oh shit, I didn't know that
holy moly
In that situation she’s dying in both ways with the stressful environment
Nobs™️
NOBZ
Although they probably don't care about chemical exposure.
Digganobz
Bwcause
Nobz are def the closest to space marines
Imperium
Likely if somebody's pregnant, they'll just do logistics or whatever for a bit
you can field a Nob Mob and they're well and capable of giving a standard squad some trouble
Except probably not carrying really heavy boxes. Just list checking
orks are hard to gauge because you average boy can kill a space marine too
Like
is their like a human sized equivalent to dreadnaughts or not worth
"Yeah this is in the right order"
lmao
I will be stealing cock n' stone btw
👍
Not worth
go get em
COCK AND STONE BROTHERS! WE'RE RICH. WE'RE RICH!
Actually wait, wasn’t there like a female guardsman who was pregnant in one of the war of the beast(cluster fluck of a series) books? Like a brief excerpt of them wishing about their life outside of the Militarum before they died.
Hearthguard are the sorta marine equivalents
id watch penal legion fuck some chaos SM
For LoV
Lmao i think so
Yes anything can happen
i remember something like that
in a fight i mean
"Penal legion gets RAVAGED by big metal men"
I’d like to watch them stick their peeners inside their butts
Stick your cock into a space marine's powerpa-
same brother hh
you said "anyone can fight anyone"
Metaphorically of course
Green taurox cans
necrons relaistically can wipe out an entire marine company with scarabs

because they are broken as shit
meanwhile space marines can murder an entire horde of orks
"FOR THE GOON EMPEROR! BLESSED BE HIS HOLY COCK!"
i want to see 20 million crack hobos kill CSM with a rock
its comic book logic mostly
do you think we could just turns the necrons off if we brought out a big enough magnet
Whats with all this preggo talk?
strangely enough, in 40k, it really comes down to context and individual commanders
Sentry always gets worfed as usual
Don’t kink shame people
5Head
genius
Mainly just talking about what a pregnant soldier would even do
replace CSM with eldar and you've got a CS Goto book
Like would the Imperium just be like
counter strike book? what?
I got called a prude for thinking a naked pregnant lady straddling the main character shooting people and being showered in blood is kinda weird earlier
So hey
"Continue fighting."
Most likely
Its pretty hot
"yeah a bunch of hobos jumped on the grav tank and threw rocks in the engines so that destroyed it and killed all the eldar LAWL!"
CS Goto’s books are non canon
to be fair
when the author himself gets fired
that kinda tells you enough
wolfenstein 2 moment
mfw the fucking Eldar throw away their Shruiken launchers for a fucking lasgun
Someone was getting off to that in the offices

I just know it
"You have to understand, this scene composition is critical for the storytelling.
Yeah I’d say there was something going on
Half of all cadians rn
I'm sorry what

goto was too good for black library
Maybe that’s why we don’t see to much of pregnancy in video games outside of like, Sims and stuff
The Dawn of War books are uh
It’s for building character
bad
real
CS Goto was what we call avant-garde, he was pushing the setting to its limits, going where nobody else would go
I forgot who it was here
who read like the books just to see how they were
and barely managed it
Sorry, you DONT like CS Goto? Go back to your bolter-porn, normie.
Obviously we’re just prudes
Yeah no shit. How the fuck did that even happen? Did some daemonette do a prank by sticking a metal bar on the seat or something?
iv not read a single book to date 
No they just gang up on a tank and destroy it
How to tell if pergarante?
He gave space marines multilasers. But then again, he have everyone those.
get pargnant
how is 40k babby formed?
Can you get pomegranate if on top?
Plap
gregante
envious?

typical bionicles fan
Someone’s got their finger on the emoji I’m telling you
That emoji
you think an iron hand could make it work with a servitor
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Maybe Horus had a point.
I think my foot can make it work with your ass
prangnet
Haha
Society ruled by his war-crazy psychos is bound to be better than this.
fuck
Haven’t see that in a while
Along with the reserves
you think the iron hands get freaky when its just them and an ancient dreadnaught battle brother in the room
space marines, fundamentally, are gachi. so yes
Like “how can I augment this” freaky or
honestly if i was Horse i'd probably have let Lorgar take over so we could actually win the war
Honse
i'd probably have let Logger take over
Leroy.
why do you think an imperial-aligned agent thwarted the coup?
would lorgar really have been a better leader?
who would listen to lorgar
Lorgar was always a massive crybaby
you'd think nobody, so letting the coup go through would be better for the Imperium
Hes the lil bro everyone picked on
that's angron
And ended being the true winner of all is brothers during the biggest sibling brawl in the galaxy
at the moment, is Gooli-man 24/7 monitoring and commanding? or he has some free time?
i respect lorgar's dedication to fucking up the imperium slowly
Yeah he stepped up during the heresy and grew some balls
ok unironically my theory is that Lorgar would've probably won the Horus Heresy if he was able to take it over from Horus
which is why an argonaut stepped in
Angron is the mentally ill kid who everyone knows is gonna shoot up the school one day
the heresy relied too much on horus by the end
Gill Man is stuck in tax season
i dont get the joke...
im not american or european to laugh at jokes about taxes
It’s not so much that and more Horus was one of the handful of sane ones left
Not helped by Perturabo being too pissed to care.
well horus did make some troll moves by the end there
it's also pretty funny how terra only won because horus died. the heretics were still winning until they had the psykic backlash
like pulling perturabo off the siege
buh, its just for the drama
Then you got Fulgrim at the siege of Terra doing whatever tf he wanted while listening to “Die Young” by Kesha
I thought everything was falling apart because horus was progressively losing his shit
Worse, Horus asked Perturabo to break up his legion to support the assault.
Pert just got pissed off by that.
hes literally like "argghhhh this siege on the most fortified planet ever is taking too long!!!! best siege master in the galaxy, you're fired!!!"
horus' periods just kicked in
like ???
Horus lost it far slower compared to the other traitor Primarchs at Terra
look
Which is still a low bar
i'm pretty sure this wasn't in the patch notes but I may have read wrong
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things wouldve gone a lot different
Huh sweet
it'd probably be a Chaos Imperium
the horus heresy was so quick that the chaos chapters weren't fully corrupted yet. it's inevitable that they'd become a rag tag bunch of morons like the black legion if the war lasted too long
this is a nice detail
NOW WE GOOOON BOOOOOYS YEAAAAHHHH
He did try. Literally tried to assassinate Horus before arriving at Terra.
Guiliman had the worst experience throughout the siege of Terra. Him and his Legion were the equivalent of being stuck on a highway traffic jam while screaming “WERE ON OUR WAY JUST A LITTLE LONGER”
🤣
I loved when they showed up
and saw like
Lionel Johnson as well.
Lol
10000000 Vengeful Spirits
that part was so fucking funny
"You sure you got that right?"
"Yes sir its all vengeful spirits"
The best
yeah, actaea (who was now opposed to chaos) saved horus there
Guy is about to close a deal but ran into a 20 car pileup on his way to the meeting

zerking yourself
Miyabi of all people no less…
(Don’t ZZZ but know her by reputation)
Very short
hair hides it so that we don't know
us furries just accept it
Same response I give when it came to the Faunus in RWBY “don’t know”
nuclear bomb shield
i gotta say i love the phrase Dramatis Personae
warhammer introduced it to me
very cool
where's the joke
how long did it take from istvan massacre to siege of terra
earth time or warp time
9 years
or isstvaan time
you dont even know istvan time
🪞
do you think emp knew terra was the end goal for them
yeah
it's like
the center of his empire
you dont have to be an oracle to guess that's where they were headed
nah it was cadia obviously
idk he mightve thought theyd just fuck off and do their own thing
the fuck do you think
nah they wanted to kill him
"Okay, theey probably just want to be left alone so they'll leave the galaxy and we can rebuild from there."
'erm... empror sir, they're coming to terra'
"Oh, fuck."
like that was one of their main goals
just ignore my son until he leaves
literally to murder their dad
- The emperor after getting a message from perturabo
"If we just pretend we're not here, they'll get bored."
this message cannot be delivered as the emperor has blocked you
you think curze or sanguinis might e at one point mayhaps hinted that wouldve all happened intentionally or not
Honestly this is probably due to the fact that all of them are from different backgrounds
with huge differences
curze was too busy being a drama bitch
i love how in the NL trilogy he straight up has dementia
he forgets his first company captain died centuries ago
Russ and Mortarion fucking hated psykers.
Magnus was like the exact opposite
in fact a little too into it to the point where he was stupi
d
well call it rune magic definitely not psyhic powers 
man imagine being in a legion that ends up getting a shitty primarch
id be so frustrated
finger painting magic
especially when i look out the window and see another legion getting Guilliman or something
i look back and we're stuck having to take care of angron
world eaters didn't ask for it
but they're also pissed because butcher's nails
im surprised iron hands and iron warriors werent big psyker haters
To be honest, Russ knows. The rune thing is mainly to ritualize it to make it safer to use.
its like christmas but half the kids get rusty nails
they should've just killed angron, the morans
Magnus makes fun of it though because it's obviously psyker shit.
I would too
he was mistreated by the emperor so he will kill all his children
entitled much
thus, they should've killed him
"oh boy big E says we're finally getting our primarch to lead us in a glorious multi-millennia campaign"
perturabo walks in
...ignoring the fact that the Emperor didn't even bother helping the rebellion at least and basically left his home planet a hellhole
They probably would have if he kept beating his legion members to death
having all of his friends and adoptive family basically die for nothing
while he's left a broken mess
so that gives him the right to kill his actual sons who are 100% loyal to him
nnnnope
Angron should simply not have been a failure, sheer skill issue on his behalf
not at all
the emperor killed my troops so i'll kill my next ones myself
but i don't think he even thought about it. He was quite literally insane
i still find it funny curze came back to his home planet to go "damn so thats how it is" and just blow it up no questions asked
He wasnt insane. He was angron
he should have found coping mechanisms that didn't include killing his soms
Nostramo was a giant fuck you to curze's entire philosophy
instead he went to khorne which literally only makes him even more ADHD
Surprise, violence only stops crime for a bit
you can be blamed for not fixing your own issues, angron isn't a victim of circumstances he's a fucking demigod
he's both.
he caused his own downfall
i dont think he went more was given to by lorgar
but part of his downfall was caused by factors out of his control
Literally all justification for the things he does is contradicted and he just becomes another deranged murderer
Well Angron did have parts of his brain replaced by a computer telling him to kill or it'd leave him in agony, because Angron was a little failure
It's hard to control yourself with that thing in
but he literally has something that was damaging his brian
his capacity for thought was literally being melted
he could have found ways to cope, he had the entire imperium at his disposal
Yeah its really just the emperor was a bad dad
make a giant arena for killing robots or something
the emperor himself said it was unremovable.
He probably wouldnt be so deranged if they liberated the planet
your adhd also doesn't tell you to murder people constantly and at sudden intervals
Like still aggro as fuck but at least he would be compliant
also his brain was literally being melted
maybe im simplifying it but i think adhd and metal murder brain worms maybe a bit different
again, coping mechanisms. he could have done so many things
use an entire planet as a killing ground
he's a PRIMARCH
like i think you're forgetting that the butchers nails that angron and the gladiators got literally melts their brains until they can think nothing but violence
to the point where some had to be put down like rabid dogs because they could no longer think. just kill.
I doubt it, somehow. Emperor would probably still be too much like a highrider to him
that's non primarchs
Angron's butchers nails still affected him. Just slower.
the nails weren't removable but he didn't turn insane without chaos
His brain was still melting but at a slower rate.
Also it kinda wasn't his choice to turn to Khorne. Lorgar literally forced him against his will
if i recall he was on the brink of death from the nails when lorgar basically gave him to khorne
Yeah the man was basically on borrowed time
Again, the Butchers nails
literally melts your brain
even a primarch's
I don't think you can control actual fucking brain damage Jay
Maybe you can’t
i hate how tragic every writer tries to make angron
at least curze and perturabo are clearly just pieces of shit
I do concede on the fact that Angron definitely caused his own downfall. Especially to his sons.
But the violence thing was literally just... uncontrollable.
His main sin ironically was apathy.
He didn't stop his sons from nailing themselves
Or continue fighting
pert was always going to be a dickhead curze became a dickhead because of his surroundings i think
He just gave up
Three books, I have enough loose change to get one.
and he killed them too
acting like they'll never be good enough for him
he's the embodiment of the cycle of familial abuse
a dirtbag
tbh they did do it while he was unconscious after they used psyker to super coma him but then again he didn't exactly stop them from continuing after he woke up
The community is really weird and annoying with how much to tries to make them sympathetic and victims
Like, yeah they had a rough start
Well, Angron did
Curze and Perturabo had some of the easiest worlds
His intent was to basically just get them to leave him alone.
To just let him die. But ironically lead to the opposite effect.
it's like talking about hitler's abusive father like who gives a fuck
They make bad choices
Always
I think I like Angron the most in being a dickhead. Because part of the reason why people are dickheads is because of uncontrollable factors.
But they make it worse through their own choices.
Shit, uhhh
that's called neglect
It’s in my free time
pert literally had gmans upbringing almost identically and still came out a dickhead granted he did have that thing were i think its said he could always subconsciously see the eye of terror
At least worthwhile
Well his inferiority complex and refusal to accept praise
Was also like
Dark Imperium was at least decent in many parts
His own fault
Yup. That was the beginning of his downfall for me.
Not the literal brain melting nails.
It literally just makes you kill uncontrollably btw. Like it activates at random times.
Like you can just be reading and suddenly the nails activate
i hate the fact that he's depicted as the nicest primarch before the nails it's such pointless information to make him look more tragic
it serves 0 purpose other than make him look more tragic
like ferrus,corax,vulkan,russ all definitely didnt have great child hoods but turned out relatively well
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Leviathan is not great, if you want a mindless space marine book where Nids win at the end get it but otherwise its not much. The Marines got no idea how tyranids operate even tho they are ultramarines and have fought two fucking wars against them and the novel largely explores nothing about the 4th Tyrannic War aside from introducing some of the new units.
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Dark Imperium is Ok but its kinda whatever and also one in a series but it again doesnt really explore much and is just a bolterporn novel.
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Saints and Martyrs is hit/miss unless you are a big Sororitas fan.
The nails also just kind of make you feel pain from doing anything that isn't tearing a mans ass wide open with your hands, it's wacky stuff. The Imperium should use it more
archeotech
...because some people are nice before they become piece of shit? Like that's a thing.
the butchers nails used by regular world eaters are alibaba versions
Good enough innit
I think also it actually doesn't melt their brains
the alibaba ahh versions
Put the discount nails into a bunch of fanatics and watch them go
Arcoflagellants
i was about to say
Chrono gladiators
why make angry when you can just lobotomize them
Yeah true, but they're too mindwiped for my likes
Thallax

Well that narrows it down to the Sororitas then…these were the only ones left in my neighborhood bookstore. Some lucky bastard got the only copy of The Founding omnibus within a 30 mile radius yesterday when I asked the store keeper
dont those skull assassins also jave that
Aside from the heart
mechanicus sucks dookie ass
Yeah just get what you want either way, im just not sugarcoating to help you out 
They’re just murderous psychopathic assholes
those are like some REALLY mid books
in an alternate timeline angron prob falls to slaneesh to be able to feel anything other then rage
which primarchs would sell models for khorne then
sanguinis
Imagine a T'au scientist like
doing an autopsy on a Eversor and they're like
"...I can't find any blood. Their bloodstream is literally just mostly drugs."
dorn
Guilliman has a temper sometimes, he just needs to be convinced to go over the edge
khorne did try and entrap him during the siege
"I have to wear gloves because I'm afraid I'll get a skin contact high while opening their chests."
^
Khorne literally tries to ensare the Blood Angels constantly
because they wear red
🧠
“Did you disarm the bloodstream nuke”
jamie post that fanart of big titty khorne using magic on dorn
khorne really takes anybody with a pulse who's angry
"Come on... say it. Say 'Skulls for the Skull Throne'."
If camping out in front until the bookstore gets another shipment of 40k books next week, where they guarantee a copy of “The Founding” is available, so be it
Yeee it is what it is
a skull throne is not structurally sound
TTS Dorn and TTS Magnus are like the canon voices for me permanently.
dorn probably would say some shit like that " what kind of throne is one made of skulls femurs would obviously be more structurally sound"
Could ask them if they can hold it
the voice actors are good and i dont go on reddit so i like TTS memes
fuck you all
I should kill whoever made TTS
Abelard smack his nuts
let me friend you dilara you fuck
Neither is a throne of swords but lo behold GOT is a thing.
To be honest, the only other voiced depiction of Magnus has like
the most generic voice ever
so
yeah

I mean
okay so starting off
in the novels its established and SAID CONSTANTLY
Did they use actual metal for that thing?
that the throne is impractical
and it literally damages/wounds the owner
its made to be purposefuly uncomfortable as well so the ruler actually feels the pressure of their role
Yes
Not 100%
But yeah it uses actual metal for the prop
you should see the approved throne art
Lol
it's massive
Iirc it’s like
its like made fro ma continent amount ofs words
The mad king kept cutting himself on the throne ||what a loser||
It’s much bigger in the novels yeah
Its an insane amount of stuff.
Goes hard
Well yeah you gotta dab on your enemies somehow
unironically that amount of swords to weld together would have costed so much for the show
That is just a stationary weapon at that point holy shit
genuinely
And seems most factual
Yep.
Nu uh

This be the thing Sandy tells SpongeBob to “find the hay in the needle stack”
They did make it a little more like the novel one for HotD
"the fuk you mean nu uh" (insert that one star wars nuh uh not my dad skit)
But I get why they didn’t want to do that
Also, in GoT it kinda has a nice symbolism of the legend being more than the actual thing
that too yeah
It’s also super dangerous
even if they made the swords out of simple pieces of aluminum it would cost so much to CNC or god forbid forge
You don't have to forge it when dragons can melt it
Hah
Yeah the ones they placed around the throne are like impaling hazards lol
even that would take time
Its dangerous, really shows what youll be doing all your life, and youll hate the ruling. It also seems to symbolize "heavy is the head that wears the crown" only well more tetanus and HIV.
couldve even used cgi
just for the outter ones that can poke your eyes out, as a safety thing
Yeah Aegon the Original says as much
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