#40k-lore-chat
viral halo
winter vessel
This too. chuds went "but they're executing civllians" Me: "who may or may not be harboring cartel assets, what? think they're gonna roll over and play nice?"
crystal forum
maybe you were a dumb kid
storm jungle
Stop killing foreigners!!!
arctic talon
Not a war crime
storm jungle
arctic talon
It’s not a war
storm jungle
OH YEAH SPEAKING OF
arctic talon
storm jungle
I love how in MW2
YOU LEVEL AN ENTIRE MEXICAN TOWN
WITH AN AC130
THEN LET HASSAN GO
viral halo
Foreigners? Foreign countries? You mean a target rich environment?
dusk patrol
opaque coyote
Stop killing foreigners!!!
Nah. It's an American tradition as old as America itself.
...just ignore the fact that most of our population is immigrants-
dusk patrol
Nah. It's an American tradition as old as America itself.
...just ignore the fa...
Well yeah, once you immigrate you’re not a foreigner
crystal forum
Humans aren’t native to the north or South American continent
what about bigfoot
winter vessel
I would've done a betrayal with Alejandro's 2IC, have him and some of the Vaqueros be double agents for the Cartel. I would've been surprised. Hell, even Laswell, make her do something evil. CIA are shady as shit
arctic talon
what about bigfoot
Bigfoot showed up after the ice bridge melted silly
dusk patrol
Now hop on this Apache and let’s go blow up a wedding
opaque coyote
Humans aren’t native to the north or South American continent
Yeah. I can't believe Native Americans didn't exist.
There were just some weird dark skinned creatures there-
Okay I'll stop.
arctic talon
Yeah. I can't believe Native Americans didn't exist.
There were just some weird...
I mean they crossed the ice bridge is what I’m saying
crystal forum
the plot of black ops 1 is very simple:
REZNOOOOV
sympathy for the devil
chevchenko, steiner
nova 6
SECURE THE KEYS
opaque coyote
Not our fault, they didnt invest in disease immunity stats
Should've speedran the tech tree SMH
storm jungle
the plot of black ops 1 is very simple:
REZNOOOOV
sympathy for the devil
chevche...
Lmfao
arctic talon
I do wonder what would have happened
dusk patrol
They stopped at fucking horse archers?
arctic talon
If like
dusk patrol
Really?
arctic talon
💀
dusk patrol
No humans every crossed the ice bridge
Columbus shows up and does less Warcrimes
storm jungle
KEK
dusk patrol
Hailed as a good guy
arctic talon
Columbus shows up and does less Warcrimes
*crimes against humanity
Also didn’t Spain consider him a monster lol
crystal forum
the prison mission of black ops 1 is literally the best the franchise will ever be
dusk patrol
Lewis and Clark just kinda cruise down the river
winter vessel
doubtful of a MW4, but do something right with these guys. K my SC rant is done.
vagrant fox
Also didn’t Spain consider him a monster lol
yea they were pretty weirded out, then did some more of the same
storm jungle
doubtful of a MW4, but do something right with these guys. K my SC rant is done.
I prefer their MW2 OG. look more but still pretty good
arctic talon
doubtful of a MW4, but do something right with these guys. K my SC rant is done.
Where is left dudes helmet
dusk patrol
Also didn’t Spain consider him a monster lol
Yeah
arctic talon
yea they were pretty weirded out, then did some more of the same
Incredible
opaque coyote
They stopped at fucking horse archers?
The funniest part is that the Native Americans actually had a collection of tribes that were democratic. Ben Franklin actually took inspiration from them.
I forgot the name of their collective
winter vessel
Where is left dudes helmet
he played Assassins Creed and we'll leave it at that
opaque coyote
But it's actually pretty interesting
dusk patrol
The funniest part is that the Native Americans actually had a collection of trib...
They had a a lot of different civilizations
crystal forum
democracy is some weird thing the greeks thought would work
thankfully we are returning to good old god emperors
dusk patrol
They basically got hit by an apocalyptic events and most larger tribes got mostly wiped out
opaque coyote
democracy is some weird thing the greeks thought would work
Every man was free.
..except the slaves, non-citizens, and-
winter vessel
I prefer their MW2 OG. look more but still pretty good
i like the variety of Reboots. but fair
storm jungle
i like the variety of Reboots. but fair
pretty good
dusk patrol
My biggest annoyance with the NA is everyone groups them to together as one thing
opaque coyote
They basically got hit by an apocalyptic events and most larger tribes got mostl...
Like Native American history is actually pretty interesting and I'm deeply sad that it isn't taught more
crystal forum
My biggest annoyance with the NA is everyone groups them to together as one thin...
most people can't even name more than 3 tribes
dusk patrol
When like, there was some tribes which we made pacts with and completely fucked over, and there was some outright evil as fuck tribes who had it coming.
storm jungle
When like, there was some tribes which we made pacts with and completely fucked ...
Ehhh
arctic talon
most people can't even name more than 3 tribes
I can name like 5
dusk patrol
There's a reason the Spanish had no trouble finding people to take on the Mayans for example.
storm jungle
id say "some had it coming some didnt" is a bad perspective
winter vessel
my biggest annoyance with the NA is in the film industry. a catastrophe strikes and the world building goes as far as Manhattan for the movie to play it out
crystal forum
it took me a while to learn that iroquois were't even a tribe they were an alliance
dusk patrol
id say "some had it coming some didnt" is a bad perspective
As much as anyone ever does
arctic talon
There's a reason the Spanish had no trouble finding people to take on the Mayans...
the comically evil Mayans dying to the other very angry groups
dusk patrol
Apaches were a monstrous brutal group who terroized everyone else
storm jungle
As much as anyone ever does
Yeah and its still deeper than that is the thing lol
arctic talon
Apaches were a monstrous brutal group who terroized everyone else
Is that why the US named a gunship after them
storm jungle
at the end of the day you dont see people saying most of this shit to other natives around the world either
winter vessel
Apaches were a monstrous brutal group who terroized everyone else
apache chief
arctic talon
at the end of the day you dont see people saying most of this shit to other nati...
They def do
Lmao
dusk patrol
I don't think its any different than like, us taking on the Nazis in WWII or whatever
storm jungle
apache chief
Bro is whiter than my cousins
storm jungle
I don't think its any different than like, us taking on the Nazis in WWII or wha...
I mean
arctic talon
dusk patrol
And those were the ones which its fucked what we did
storm jungle
Its kinda the same shit as like
opaque coyote
My biggest annoyance with the NA is everyone groups them to together as one thin...
They are a nation of peoples with their own history, cultures, and moralities. They weren't uniformly good or bad. They just were.
And the saddest thing is that we basically murdered them all lmao.
opaque coyote
Well a good chunk of them anyways
arctic talon
They are a nation of peoples with their own history, cultures, and moralities. T...
I mean I’d say some of them were what I’d define as evil
winter vessel
https://tenor.com/view/chud-circle-chudcircle-pharaoh-slots-pharoahs-fire-gif-20...
i went to a casino for the first time in eight years last november. the slot machine screens are even more obnoxious and disorienting for me
dusk patrol
They are a nation of peoples with their own history, cultures, and moralities. T...
So were lots of fucked up civilizations
opaque coyote
I mean I’d say some of them were what I’d define as evil
Yeah but that goes for like every continent.
arctic talon
It’s too late now
dusk patrol
Like the Mongols, Nazis, whoever.
crystal forum
the thing with native americans is because liberals romanticized them so much for decades (instead of doing reparations) you have people like eternal who show up saying things like "no they were not living in a perfect peaceful harmony" as if it's breaking new grounds
dusk patrol
I don't care much about what happened to the fucked up tribes
storm jungle
the thing with native americans is because liberals romanticized them so much fo...
Yeah I was gonna say lol
dusk patrol
I care about the ones which weren't and allied with us even
dusk patrol
And tried to get along and we fucked them over.
opaque coyote
It’s too late now
Unfortunately true.
...
We could at least make their reservations actually not shit tho
winter vessel
Samoset was a good cookie to those Pilgrims
arctic talon
at the end of the day tho white guys gotta do what white guys do
Humans in general
Lol
viral halo
Most native American indians sided with the confederacy in the civil war
storm jungle
Humans in general
Let me be racist damn it
viral halo
down with the rebels
dusk patrol
Oh yeah Slavery in the tribes was
arctic talon
Let me be racist damn it
dusk patrol
rampant
storm jungle
down with the rebels
opaque coyote
Humans in general
People living in the Balkans when they see somebody with the same language, skin color, and culture:
viral halo
the thing with native americans is because liberals romanticized them so much fo...
so true!
dusk patrol
the thing with native americans is because liberals romanticized them so much fo...
People don't like nuance.
opaque coyote
dusk patrol
We always overcorrect
First it was "all natives are savages" now they were all noble people who maybe sometimes scalped a bit
opaque coyote
First it was "all natives are savages" now they were all noble people who maybe ...
Pocahontas would've been a good movie if it was
Not based on real historic individuals
shadow plover
See this is what happens when people talk about cod
arctic talon
gray umbra
Be like Japan and refuse to talk about what you did to the native population
Civilwarcivilwarcivilwar
crystal forum
Yeah I was gonna say lol
telling Canadians basic facts about our historic treatment of native people is legit like trying to talk to a brick wall. both sides of the aisle suck so much at doing anything good for them, the only thing that gets shit done is when natives organize and fight for their rights. White people are too busy with a culture war to care 
gray umbra
Hey more civil war
dusk patrol
The point is, SOAP is an overrated character and he has a yee yee ass haircut
arctic talon
The point is, SOAP is an overrated character and he has a yee yee ass haircut
His haircut is dumb
Real
dusk patrol
Ghost is still cool though, even if his new mask if overly edgy and his old balaclava was cooler.
storm jungle
I cannot believe this all started from wanting to bomb a mexican town with an AC130
shadow plover
Jack Frost can fuck off!
dusk patrol
opaque coyote
I cannot believe this all started from wanting to bomb a mexican town with an AC...
AC 130 ABOVE
winter vessel
opaque coyote
TACTICAL NUKE. INCOMING!!
vagrant fox
yoo a good game series
dusk patrol
Come on
shadow plover
Yes talk Helghast instead
gray umbra
Old ghost rocked the fleece jacket ngl
dusk patrol
Dude he always had a great fit
shadow plover
No he doesn't
storm jungle
jerk your cod takes do not matter here
shadow plover
Cod takes don't matter to begin with
dusk patrol
crystal forum
i have not enjoyed any modern warfare campaign
shadow plover
Edgy military gear is cringe!
gray umbra
Last outfit always baller
storm jungle
i have not enjoyed any modern warfare campaign
which modern warfare
gray umbra
Also speaking of cod
arctic talon
Let’s talk about project wingman and how they nuked California
dusk patrol
My mom did not like this when she walked in
arctic talon
Twice
crystal forum
which modern warfare
any
vagrant fox
Dude looks like an overeager airsofter
arctic talon
My mom did not like this when she walked in
LOL
storm jungle
L take
gray umbra
A
dusk patrol
When are we gonna get Oakley Scouts in 40k?
opaque coyote
I think the most depressing part about the COD series is that COD WW2 just...
Did not acknowledge the Holocaust at all.
They explored a POW camp. Which tbf are also inhumane as shit, and I like that. But there's not even mention of the Holocaust itself.
crystal forum
world at war still peak world war 2 game
winter vessel
My mom did not like this when she walked in
I thought Of Pink Panther when i saw this https://youtu.be/PkgntZqYDHU?si=uM9CFbI2YCl1JV_J
storm jungle
world at war still peak world war 2 game
at least you can have some good takes
crystal forum
it had tanks in a call of duty game
dusk patrol
Oakleys improved your BBQ skills by +50%
storm jungle
it had 1 mission with them in it
vagrant fox
Reckon Red Orchestra was the best WW2 game
crystal forum
i never played the plane mission though because it's not on the wii version
storm jungle
.....
crystal forum
yes i had it on wii
shadow plover
Reckon Red Orchestra was the best WW2 game
Better take
crystal forum
you never played Black Cats
zombies is not on wii either
storm jungle
zombies is not on wii either
GET OUT
dusk patrol
I think the most depressing part about the COD series is that COD WW2 just...
D...
I mean....thats acknowledging it
winter vessel
you never played Black Cats
https://youtu.be/qqA46bO4VDI?si=ylNLnjZ4g3-8gmwU when this played on speakers it is the most "its go time, baby!" moment i ever had on the 360
dusk patrol
I feel like they maybe thought it would be a bit much to have you
Play a fucking video game in a camp
storm jungle
https://youtu.be/qqA46bO4VDI?si=ylNLnjZ4g3-8gmwU when this played on speakers it...
HELL yes
dusk patrol
Wolfenstein got away with it cause its so over the top
storm jungle
this mission's soundtrack is nuts
crystal forum
kino der toten still best zombies map
dusk patrol
And tbh even that one was a bit idk
storm jungle
Wolfenstein got away with it cause its so over the top
it didnt tbh
dusk patrol
It feels weird
storm jungle
Nah its good
winter vessel
Wolfenstein is a weird spot for me
storm jungle
its a game about nazis winning it kinda needed to be shown
crystal forum
most jews are dead by the period of wolfenstein new order
dusk patrol
I agreed and don't, idk its kinda a weird thing
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much
dusk patrol
They definitely lean into the over the top aspect a bit to make it less
opaque coyote
it didnt tbh
I hate the fact that Wolfenstein is kind of the only game that shows the horror of the Nazi Regime.
...and that's purely because it's so over the top
dusk patrol
uncomfortable
arctic talon
Relevant
dusk patrol
I hate the fact that Wolfenstein is kind of the only game that shows the horror ...
I mean, yeah Laati
Its a fucking videogame
storm jungle
"its a videogame"
Me watching one of our members be a suicide bomber
dusk patrol
Its also not the only one lol
winter vessel
https://tenor.com/view/wolfenstein-ss-ss-march-wolfenstein-ss-gif-19326165 hot damn did they have a sick ass march though
storm jungle
the internet memed that scene to death
also average 40k fans on their way to a convention
crystal forum
https://tenor.com/view/wolfenstein-ss-ss-march-wolfenstein-ss-gif-19326165 hot d...
you'd be surprised how easy that is to animate
arctic talon
Average civilized world parade
gray umbra
Wolfenstein is a massive meme
winter vessel
the internet memed that scene to death
i remember seeing "going to weinerschnitzel be like"
arctic talon
Wolfenstein is a massive meme
I mean yeah fucking Mecha Hitler
storm jungle
"Who is your contact in the village?"
"Klaus."
"Who is this Klaus?"
"Santa Klaus"
💀
gets electrocuted
gray umbra
Still remember that qte sequence where you have that nazi soldier constantly stabbing you
storm jungle
LMAO
gray umbra
And youre just like 
storm jungle
Old Blood
arctic talon
Fun fact
storm jungle
I mean
arctic talon
You can just shoot him
storm jungle
did you see how BJ is built
arctic talon
LOL
storm jungle
also that yeah
crystal forum
old blood is even more cartoony
storm jungle
thats the point of it yeah
crystal forum
you literally fight a zombie king
crystal forum
with a mech
arctic talon
arctic talon
Youngblood was Ironicially fine with everything except the gameplay
Lol
Which is unfortunately
You know
arctic talon
What people play video games for
crystal forum
Youngblood was Ironicially fine with everything except the gameplay
that's like entire game
winter vessel
i like how this thing is considered a "submachine gun" but it chambers .30 carbine round
arctic talon
You’re so squishy
storm jungle
America Moment
arctic talon
In new colossus
dusk patrol
Its not terrible but its not nearly as good
winter vessel
and this thing is huge
crystal forum
i like how this thing is considered a "submachine gun" but it chambers .30 carbi...
what would the m2 carbine be
storm jungle
The original 2 of the reboot are the best
100%
arctic talon
They strike the balance well
dusk patrol
New Blood is terrible
arctic talon
New colossus is way too squishy
dusk patrol
Fuck me I hated it
arctic talon
New blood is uh
storm jungle
New Blood is a crime against humanity
dusk patrol
Its not even a good game or coherent story
storm jungle
"mechanics"
dusk patrol
Its so bland
arctic talon
The story is like
dusk patrol
Even if you ignore the levels
arctic talon
So mid
arctic talon
It’s acceptable
arctic talon
it also has women in it
I like the new executions
dusk patrol
All I got from it was BJ and Ana were terrible parents
dusk patrol
Who the fuck lets their teens go fight on the frontline
gray umbra
About to dab on this nazi general
winter vessel
it also has women in it
the 2009 one?
dusk patrol
Its not like they had no other choice
crystal forum
i will die on the hill that the america wolfenstein was great
dusk patrol
The war is in the allies favor now
Anyways whatever
Hopefully the next one will be better
(It wont)
arctic talon
We can pray
crystal forum
people who hated that one were chuds i can't believe i used to listen to that stuff
arctic talon
Lol
I don’t care about the story
Just have the gameplay be good
Just copy fucking old blood one for one
dusk patrol
Gameplay was bad and the story was just
arctic talon
Or new order one for one
dusk patrol
I dunno, not as good
dusk patrol
I didn't like the cast
arctic talon
You really didn’t need to fuck with the formula
dusk patrol
Yeah
arctic talon
Of the gameplay lol
dusk patrol
It was dumb
crystal forum
then they did a vr game
dusk patrol
They made it Doom except you couldn't dodge enemy fire
So you just got fucked
Idk how I was even supposed to playu
crystal forum
it's some exec who thinks he can freshen up the formula
crystal forum
and i bet he got a raise too
crystal forum
WHICH IS ALL A DREAM
new colossus?
dusk patrol
Yeah
crystal forum
that dream scene is fucking great
winter vessel
that dream scene is fucking great
Going through that on my first run I went “imagine if this was a dream”. I ate my words
storm jungle
that dream scene is fucking great
^
I hated the dream cliche until i saw the scene with his mom afterwards
crystal forum
no it was done to hammer the point that the guy had no way out
arctic talon
The scene with the mom is fine
storm jungle
"I cant go on anymore mom"
arctic talon
Fuck
crystal forum
i genuinely thought he would die during the beheading
crystal forum
and i pogged so hard
gray umbra
Nah
arctic talon
That’s the point
gray umbra
Jewish science prevails again
I think that was probably my favorite thing about the reboot
winter vessel
Jewish science prevails again
I had a hard time to try and and even say their name for it. “Da’at Yichud”
crystal forum
when the lawyer gets killed that's like a big tonal shift of the series
storm jungle
I had a hard time to try and and even say their name for it. “Da’at Yichud”
Dat Yishud
its pretty easy
winter vessel
Dat shit
storm jungle
when the lawyer gets killed that's like a big tonal shift of the series
thats ironically one of my fav scenes
crystal forum
yingele (slur)
gray umbra
Just the concept that jews had secret alientech
gray umbra
Was hilariously amazing
arctic talon
💀
arctic talon
Lore accurate
arctic talon
Also the Nazis aren’t totally incompetent in Wolfenstien
gray umbra
My client has rights dontcha know
crystal forum
the ku klux klan guy trying to say thank you in german
arctic talon
Which is good
gray umbra
Poor superspesh
arctic talon
the ku klux klan guy trying to say thank you in german
Danky shoo
winter vessel
the ku klux klan guy trying to say thank you in german
Hearing them say danke schein badly threw me to the damn roof as someone who took a class for a year in speaking Deutsch
arctic talon
arctic talon
It’s story is good
It’s gameplay sucks
Compared to the first two
You cannot convince me the gameplay is an improvement
crystal forum
i liked the gameplay
arctic talon
i liked the gameplay
More then New Order?
winter vessel
come on admit colossus was a good game
Not as good as new order. But miles better than freaking Youngblood I don’t know what my eyeballs were witnessing in that gameplay
dusk patrol
The first one felt like a very somber story with some over the top elements
arctic talon
New Order got it right
crystal forum
More then New Order?
it added more stuff to it
crystal forum
i liked the combat abilities of the mech body
arctic talon
Adding more isn’t a good thing always
The body stuff is fine
The fact you’re made out of paper
And meant to dodge bullets is not
Lol
crystal forum
that's chud talk right there
winter vessel
The antagonist for Colossus didn’t really hit as hard like Deathshead
crystal forum
"the black lady was too loud i hate this game"
crystal forum
im sure it is
gray umbra
New order was definitely better
arctic talon
Deathshed is like genuinely monstrous
dusk patrol
I didn’t hate NC but it wasn’t as good and was a downgrade across the board
arctic talon
Incredibly good villain
dusk patrol
The one Frau Engel lady was just
crystal forum
the game starts you in a wheelchair
winter vessel
Deathshed is like genuinely monstrous
I had a hard time watching that surgery scene without turning away
median star
so how big is the offico assasionorum like would you be more likely to see one of them then a space marine
dusk patrol
Goofy
crystal forum
how is that not awesome
arctic talon
so how big is the offico assasionorum like would you be more likely to see one o...
Less likely
crystal forum
new order was also goofy
gray umbra
All i remember from new colossus is all the memes
arctic talon
New colossus is objectively worse for the core gameplay tbh
dusk patrol
Felt like a lot of fetish stuff was coming through at parts ngl
arctic talon
Like
crystal forum
also i liked how new colossus did more to the side characters
crystal forum
the side characters just appear and disappear in new order
winter vessel
Like Anya straddling you, covered in blood while pregnant
Yeah. And her physically doing the things she’s doing had me like “are…are we sure this is safe?”
dusk patrol
Yeah
crystal forum
Because you’re supposed to “dodge”
i didn't have difficulty at max difficulty and im not a sweaty
arctic talon
When you get more HP later in the game they literally boost enemy damage
For 0 reason
dusk patrol
It plays like Doom 2016 but you can’t dodge
arctic talon
i didn't have difficulty at max difficulty and im not a sweaty
Mein leben????
dusk patrol
Just let me “die” and skip it jfc
arctic talon
What
arctic talon
You didn’t struggle on Mein Leben
I find that hard to believe personally but maybe you are The New Colossus god
crystal forum
Mein leben????
ok not mein leiben but i did try that one and got to midway through
winter vessel
Makes you wanna cry almost
arctic talon
The additional difficulty modifiers are already rough
dusk patrol
Anyways, I didn’t hate it but I didn’t love it and it was a disappointment largely with how good the original was
crystal forum
but i gave up out of boredom i didn't even die
arctic talon
And then the fact it’s Ironman
Is uh
Idk I think new colossus is worse gameplay wise
It doesn’t play as well as New order
crystal forum
i liked it more
arctic talon
Meh
winter vessel
Fair point
arctic talon
Of the loud and quiet stuff
crystal forum
i preferred new colossus stealth probably because the environments looked cooler
median star
so force swords exist right does force axe/hammers/ other melees exist and if so do they have normal human size versions aswell
dusk patrol
Old Blood was fun
opaque coyote
Idk I think new colossus is worse gameplay wise
I heard that the New Order is better story wise but New Colossus is better gameplay wise.
New Colossus has some weird ass moments though.
arctic talon
so force swords exist right does force axe/hammers/ other melees exist and if so...
Force weapons exist in all sizes
crystal forum
old blood was cartoonish fun
dusk patrol
Yeah
crystal forum
i think old blood had the best gameplay
outer wave
I heard that the New Order is better story wise but New Colossus is better gamep...
I just recall a fat woman getting railed being a cutscene
arctic talon
Stealth is less in-depth
dusk patrol
These people are what we call “morons”
dusk patrol
I just recall a fat woman getting railed being a cutscene
There was a lot of
median star
Force weapons exist in all sizes
are chain weapons able to be turned into force weapons 
winter vessel
I just recall a fat woman getting railed being a cutscene
I like how that’s the only thing you remember of Sigrun Engel
opaque coyote
New colossus is not better gameplay wise
My first exposure to the Wolfenstein reboot was the cutscene where a pregnant woman was dual wielding rifles while topless with blood splattering on her naked body
dusk patrol
Weird shit which felt fetishy in that game ngl
arctic talon
are chain weapons able to be turned into force weapons <:loregryn:10365806747417...
In theory yes but in practice no
Not worth it
Force weapons are expensive
dusk patrol
My first exposure to the Wolfenstein reboot was the cutscene where a pregnant wo...
Also this part
outer wave
I like how that’s the only thing you remember of Sigrun Engel
Well that and she had fan fiction of wanting to fuck some dudes
dusk patrol
Idk it was just weird
winter vessel
Idk it was just weird
What I hated most was the birthday celebration scene
dusk patrol
I don’t even remember that part
arctic talon
i do think new order had better laser weapons
I’m ngl I like the laser beam in Wolfenstien 2
opaque coyote
Also this part
And I had to legitimately pause the video for a second.
opaque coyote
And just
arctic talon
crystal forum
Lasergwher
the tool you get to upgrade?
arctic talon
Nazi obliterator 10,000
opaque coyote
Stared at the wall thinking what the fuck did I just watch
crystal forum
i love wolfenstein's upgrade system
dusk patrol
They also make it like a sexual thing
arctic talon
Oh also new order and old blood
crystal forum
you're all prudes
dusk patrol
She’s straddling you and she’s making this borderline orgasms face
arctic talon
Imo had way more diverse weapon selection
Well
Not even an imo
It just did have more diverse weapon selection
dusk patrol
Yeah Jay I’m a prude for thinking it’s weird they have a pregnant lady straddling you covered in blood while she’s borderline orgasming
I’m the weird one
crystal forum
It just did have more diverse weapon selection
a bunch were useless
winter vessel
Yeah Jay I’m a prude for thinking it’s weird they have a pregnant lady straddlin...
I really did not like that scene. Partly in the fact that for a time while playing NC , I had an aunt who was expecting and she stayed at my family’s house for a bit. Like, one room down the hall from me
opaque coyote
https://youtu.be/DRaShgVyz5U?si=CiOVd3bUvaV0tuRJ
bwwWWAAAAAAAAAA
arctic talon
a bunch were useless
Not really?
I mean I guess the moon guns were op as shit
But I wouldn’t call the AP marksmen useless
crystal forum
Yeah Jay I’m a prude for thinking it’s weird they have a pregnant lady straddlin...
how dare my media have stuff that's slightly weird
crystal forum
Not really?
the shotgun
opaque coyote
how dare my media have stuff that's slightly weird
Dude she was literally naked
crystal forum
the scene where you cut the barrel off
dusk patrol
how dare my media have stuff that's slightly weird
Slightly is doing a lot of heavy lifting there
opaque coyote
Her tits was showing
arctic talon
No the auto shotty was insane what
opaque coyote
It was really fucking weird
arctic talon
How could you say it’s useless smh
crystal forum
Slightly is doing a lot of heavy lifting there
you havent seen weird if that's more than slightly
winter vessel
No the auto shotty was insane what
Dual welding those was fun
dusk patrol
It’s supposed to be sexualized and that’s kinda weird
arctic talon
Thing shredded large targets
crystal forum
No the auto shotty was insane what
it was boring
arctic talon
That doesn’t make it useless
dusk patrol
you havent seen weird if that's more than slightly
I don’t think this is the flex you think it is Jay
I’m aware it could be weirder
That isn’t a good argument lol
arctic talon
Boring weapon sure
crystal forum
I don’t think this is the flex you think it is Jay
i'm not flexing im calling you a prude
arctic talon
Useless absolutely not
It has a usage
And a niche in the weapon sandbox
Actually if anything the weird Nazi moon guns are overpowered
And invalidate stuff
The uh
opaque coyote
you havent seen weird if that's more than slightly
I mean I have to but like
There's a different mindset in terms of intentionally going out to find weird shit and
Literally just encountering something weird and out of pocket when playing a fucking video game
arctic talon
Laser/AR one
crystal forum
i do like the laser sniper
also recharging guns in all the games is so satisfying
you get fire guns in colossus too
opaque coyote
I just wanted to watch people kill Nazis man
arctic talon
Is fun
opaque coyote
opaque coyote
https://youtu.be/DRaShgVyz5U?si=CiOVd3bUvaV0tuRJ
Honestly if we ever get access to Volkite in Darktide somehow
I really want it to be exactly like this
Just
bwwwAAAAA
crystal forum
I mean I have to but like
There's a different mindset in terms of intentionally...
it's just a bit weird idk what the issue is. i barely remember that scene
arctic talon
The lasergrwehr is great
Thing obliterates the basic Nazi soldier
And the mechs
And the super soldiers
crystal forum
The lasergrwehr is great
the upgrade that lets you kill multiple people when you aim
arctic talon
Mmmmmm
opaque coyote
Thing obliterates the basic Nazi soldier
"Ah I see you like living."
"Too bad I don't like you."
BWAAAAA-
crystal forum
when you find a recharging station and you stay next to it to kill all nazis quickly
winter vessel
And the super soldiers
Which super soldier design did you like most? The 1946 or 1960s?
crystal forum
the rotary mg 42 is peak
winter vessel
It’s cool
crystal forum
such a ridiculous weapon idea i love it
opaque coyote
Which super soldier design did you like most? The 1946 or 1960s?
I like the 1946 one more due to how fucking gross it looks
arctic talon
Which super soldier design did you like most? The 1946 or 1960s?
46, 61, 60
60 is just lame
The death mask is boring
opaque coyote
Like this looks straight out of 40k let's be fair here
crystal forum
i prefer the prologue super soldiers from new order
opaque coyote
Mf got the Horus lighting
arctic talon
And the face isn’t as fucked up
crystal forum
yes
arctic talon
Which is fun
opaque coyote
The 60 one is probably the most boring to me
crystal forum
nazis gone woke, hiding the super soldier face
opaque coyote
🗿
arctic talon
nazis gone woke, hiding the super soldier face
Tbf thr 46 ones had helmets
They were just metal as fuck
opaque coyote
Tbf thr 46 ones had helmets
Also
Horus ahh lighting
arctic talon
Ngl the next Wolfenstien game
I want to see more allied weapons
Or I guess non Nazi guns
opaque coyote
Ngl the next Wolfenstien game
...Young blood shouldn't be canon
Like genuinely I think it should be fucking decanonized
arctic talon
Meh
opaque coyote
I do like the set up. The Nazi's basically becoming more desperate to the point where they're basically taking the world with them
But like
arctic talon
It exists
opaque coyote
The story is dogwater
gray umbra
Two sisters just having a girls night out tbh
opaque coyote
BJ giving up is kinda uncharacteristic to me.
The man literally got out of a comatose state as soon as he saw a Nazi soldier.
And even though he heard that "Nazis have taken over the world, there is no resistance" he was like
"Let's fucking create one then."
opaque coyote
Two sisters just having a girls night out tbh
Bro their dialogue sounds so robotic
I have never heard any sibling
Let alone a fucking person talk like that
They sound like Oblivion NPCs half the time
dusk patrol
They had a chance to do more of a Cold War alt history thing
With the Nazi’s controlling half of Europe still
But they made it just
Lame
opaque coyote
They had a chance to do more of a Cold War alt history thing
Actually that would be interesting.
Like the Nazis still being in control of Europe while America came back
I wonder what happened to Japan in the Wolfenstein universe tbh
Did they just get vaporized?
The idea of a fucking Nazi Samurai is entertaining as shit though
arctic talon
I wonder what happened to Japan in the Wolfenstein universe tbh
Taken over by Germany
arctic talon
https://tenor.com/view/wtf-wtf-is-going-on-huh-what-shocked-gif-17203129
Wolfenstien
arctic talon
Do you ever kill the KKK in Wolfenstien
I forgor
They’re enemies at one point right
dusk patrol
I feel like Wolfenstein writers didn’t really think the “actually there is a secret cabal of Jews” thing through lol
It’s kinda
arctic talon
I feel like Wolfenstein writers didn’t really think the “actually there is a sec...
They did not
dusk patrol
Weird
dusk patrol
“They have super Jewish tech but don’t worry they were good I guess.”
“Except they didn’t use any of it for no fucking reason as the Holocaust was happening.”
dusk patrol
Yeah its so central to the plot too
It’s so goofy that I kinda don’t care but also man it’s weird
opaque coyote
Taken over by Germany
I read through what could be considered the Nazi Racism Hierarchy.
Essentially how "pure" each race is. Which one is the best, etc.
It was utterly stupid btw. I think I actively gave myself brain damage trying to understand it.
But due to their alliance with Japan, they actually put Japanese people as "Honorary Aryans".
Although he also hated Chinese people. Like he literally ranted about it in his fucking book.
dusk patrol
Hitler was really ahead of his time there
arctic talon
💀
near wasp
dusk patrol
Then again East Asia kinda always hate everyone else
arctic talon
What do you think this stuff tastes like
near wasp
Every time I look at this chat years of my life evaporate
opaque coyote
Hitler was really ahead of his time there
Specifically he hated how the Chinese dared to...
Try to make progress outside of European civilizations.
While praising Japan for adopting European customs earlier
outer wave
What do you think this stuff tastes like
Like taurox but lime-y
arctic talon
Like taurox but lime-y
So like lime flavored beef
dusk patrol
The writers aren’t even trying
outer wave
So like lime flavored beef
Yeah
arctic talon
Every time I look at this chat years of my life evaporate
I’d say the conversations today have been normalish
dusk patrol
Good edit
opaque coyote
> Discovered Gunpower way before everyone else, way behind on guns
Human Technological development is fucking bewildering at times.
The Aztecs actually had the idea for wheels before Europe but only used them for toys.
dusk patrol
People are very smart and dumb
opaque coyote
I guess due to them living in a forested/jungle area. Wheels were kinda useless to them
arctic talon
Steam powered doner kabab spinner
arctic talon
I guess due to them living in a forested/jungle area. Wheels were kinda useless ...
They had roads still
dusk patrol
We figured out how to get to the moon before we thought of putting wheels on suitcases
arctic talon
^
opaque coyote
Dirt outside of nicer places
Yeah makes sense.
arctic talon
opaque coyote
We figured out how to get to the moon before we thought of putting wheels on sui...
Space exploration actually helped us develop the technology needed for our modern machines now
Although it was definitely a side effect
Still pretty cool though
It's also why I generally support Space Exploration. Especially since it could solve resource shortages
Asteroids are basically fucking loot boxes
opaque coyote
Then what they got to the moon with
It's wild at times
Like a regular high school student technically knows more than Isaac Newton
So if we like
Time traveled to the future
People would probably see you as fucking stupid
I remember a joke in Futurama where Fry had to go back to High School
Because despite having a college degree, the future progressed to the point where his education was considered to be like
Middle school tier
...
Those poor children 100 years later that have to learn calculus at age 10
keen nova
If the death watch specializes in killing xenos, how do they change to fight dark eldar? Everytime I look into them it's always talking about what they are and not how they adjust.
dusk patrol
They’re aware of their strengths and weaknesses, and their abilities
They also get better equipment and have veterans as a baseline for marines generally
Often exceptional marines from chapters
Knowledge is power basically, they know their enemy
And have access to lots of records and footage of them
Often the exact target they’re after
One example I guess is there’s a short with an veteran Iron Hand who uses an augmetic in his head to dilate time so he sees a second as lasting a minute, allowing him to much more easily track them and shoot in combat
They can often send marines who have experience and an affinity with a certain enemy after them
keen nova
They can often send marines who have experience and an affinity with a certain e...
Oh, okay that's makes sense
pine wedge
If the death watch specializes in killing xenos, how do they change to fight dar...
this is often the case with 40k stuff, where things are described moreso than shown
especially on wikis or whatever. need to read stories to get into the meat and bones of how
dusk patrol
A lot of Deathwatchs benefit too is just that it’s basically a dream team squad, chapters tend to send some of their best
late osprey
i can also imagine their weaponry is adjusted, specifically. eldar generally have very fast reflexes, so weapons that don't have (relatively) slow projectiles would be ideal
especially weapons described as beam weapons
winter vessel
Funny if it happens to the dark angels with how paranoid and secretive they are
late osprey
veteran dark angels know to keep their mouths shut
dusk patrol
First rule of DW is you don’t talk about what you saw
You can share the knowledge you got but you can’t tell how you got it
winter vessel
Be funny if Azraael sees them off grabs hand and leans to ear “you say a fucking thing we are burying you alive on a cemetery world”
late osprey
i can also imagine their weaponry is adjusted, specifically. eldar generally hav...
alternatively rapid fire weapons. so they probably know to leave the plasma guns at home and bring storm bolters, or whatever
dusk patrol
Safe to say a fair number of DW marines from other chapters have seen SW become Wulfen or Angels fall to the Rage for example
winter vessel
Makes me curious about Astartes 2. From what I’ve seen of the chapters, they’re all engaging with different Xenos. And at the end where it shows the terminator helm. You see the symbol of the deathwatch. Maybe like prequel to a Killteam formation?
dusk patrol
The clips we saw aren’t in the short apparently
They’re just showing the characters
The short itself will be them all in Deathwatch
Apparently
winter vessel
Hmm maybe they do an anthology of the separate chapters for each episode?
dusk patrol
It’s not a mark of shame often
late osprey
i dont know where you get that from, yeah
its a great honor more often than not
space marines will brag about their time in deathwatch when they come back
dusk patrol
It’s a way to get troublesome marines to figure themselves out or die for a cause
Away from the chapter
Sometimes
crystal forum
space marines will brag about their time in deathwatch when they come back
yeah because they survived
dusk patrol
It’s mostly a honor
crystal forum
the reason they get sent there though
dusk patrol
It’s not a mark of shame to go or die there
They send troublesome marines there because it forces them to straighten out
winter vessel
Boarding school
dusk patrol
And hopefully come back better or die in service
crystal forum
a chapter isn't sending their most valuable troops by definition
crystal forum
expendable vererans
late osprey
no such thing in a Chapter of 1000 space marines
dusk patrol
You’re misunderstanding how they see it
dusk patrol
In the Steve Parker books
They send a dude whose literally being groomed to become Chapter Master next
It’s a way to prove yourself and learn a lot
crystal forum
it's a trial by fire i know
late osprey
it reflects REALLY badly on the chapter if they send someone who sucks
to that whole aforementioned honor thing
dusk patrol
They send troublesome marines but they’re not sending bad marines
They’re sending good marines who are out of line
crystal forum
i didn't say they send bad
late osprey
i dont even know if its that common that they use deathwatch as a secondary training school like that
like im sure some chapter leadership would use it for that purpose
dusk patrol
Anyone who returns from the Long Vigil is marked out as almost certainly becoming a captain at least
late osprey
but just as often its just like "we gotta send someone who's the biggest badass we got?"
crystal forum
you wont see cato sicarius in death watch is what im saying
winter vessel
I like to think of it as taking an extra class in college outside of the prerequisite for your major
dusk patrol
you wont see cato sicarius in death watch is what im saying
They do send people like that
late osprey
well ACTUAL leadership never goes because they're needed in the chapter still, to my knowledge
its like
dusk patrol
Like they literally send Sanguinary Priests and Iron Fathers
crystal forum
why would the chapter send somebody crucial to their functioning
late osprey
Sternguard Veteran Squadmate #4 that gets chosen
dusk patrol
why would the chapter send somebody crucial to their functioning
Because they’re needed, and they can be replaced in the meantime
DW often requests specific people
Especially if they previously served
crystal forum
well ACTUAL leadership never goes because they're needed in the chapter still, t...
that makes no sense i dont believe they'd send officers who serve their function correctly
dusk patrol
Specialists
winter vessel
If given the choice, can they wish to stay in the Dw longer than required?
late osprey
well specialists like apothecaries and techmarines are not singular officers
dusk patrol
This guy is an Iron Father who is Ana expert on Necrons for example they requested
dusk patrol
If given the choice, can they wish to stay in the Dw longer than required?
Yes
Some find it to be their calling
late osprey
i dont think ive ever heard of an instance of a captain being sent
crystal forum
iron fathers are lieutenants or captains no?
late osprey
as that decapitates an entire company
dusk patrol
That’s how Watchmasters often become a thing
late osprey
iron fathers are techmarine/chaplain hybrids
so they aren't necessarily critical if you only send one
dusk patrol
iron fathers are lieutenants or captains no?
All Captains hold the rank
crystal forum
damn i thought they were captains
dusk patrol
iron fathers are techmarine/chaplain hybrids
They’re not
Not anymore really
It’s complicated but
They’re all roles
crystal forum
but they still lead large groups
dusk patrol
It’s anyone on the council
The Iron Council, so some are dreads
Some are Librarians, Chaplains
late osprey
point being:
"Every Clan Company must always have at least one Iron Father amongst its numbers, while most have more."
they aren't as indispensable as the traditional captain
where there's only 10 of them
crystal forum
sending a captain to deathwatch is stupid
dusk patrol
Cato isn’t leading a company anymore anyways
late osprey
yes which is why i believe it never happens
dusk patrol
He’s Guillimans honor guard
crystal forum
i, cato sicarius
dusk patrol
And it happens with Uriel Ventris
late osprey
probably the best gig has got to be being in vet company
just rolling around with the chapter master blasting everything you see
id hate to be asked to go back to some shithole reserve company to be their sergeant
crystal forum
chapter ancient is a pretty cool job, you just carry a banner into battle and yell
all you have to do is survive long enough
dusk patrol
This guy for example is a Red Scorpion apothecary who was requested for his expertise in Tyranids
late osprey
1st company is like new york city, its where all the cool shit is at
reserve company as like
Wichitau, Arkansas
id hate that so much
crystal forum
i wish we had more stories about the shit companies
late osprey
"congrats, you get a promotion!"
'fuck'
crystal forum
it's like that one ultramarine scout who served for centuries
millenia even i think
dusk patrol
Tellion
late osprey
is he a sgt at least?
crystal forum
that's such dumb lore
late osprey
sgts tend to come from the vet companies so most of them went through the whole course to my knowledge
late osprey
its just some go "I really like dying in one hit."
dusk patrol
He is a space marine
late osprey
he must have had to
dusk patrol
He just wears scout gear
crystal forum
i thought he was partially
crystal forum
ah
late osprey
he went through the whole dev->assault->tac->vet pipeline
scout sergeants come from vet company
like most sergeants
crystal forum
why does he look so old then
dusk patrol
Full marines often wear the scout gear when working with them
late osprey
bcuz hes old as shit
crystal forum
shit he must be truly ancient
dusk patrol
why does he look so old then
Cause he’s old
He’s one of the oldest UMs
Only Calgar is older
crystal forum
old looking marines are crazy old
late osprey
Full marines often wear the scout gear when working with them
yeah its hard to be a scout sergeant if you're not in scout gear
crystal forum
i kinda find it weird that the first HH books had that ancient guy even though he was only a space marine for like centuries
guy had dementia even
late osprey
also i do believe how reserve companies work is that they're towed along with the battle companies, and reserve marines just get immediately transferred into battle companies as losses are sustained
sometimes they do get actually deployed though
dusk patrol
Sometimes they wear full armor when working with scouts if it’s needed too
It depends
crystal forum
The sniper at the bottom right, is a full marine
he looks identical bruh
dusk patrol
Yeah scouts are big guys
dusk patrol
A lot of them are basically full marines and just need the carapace
crystal forum
why even wear scout armour now that phobos exists
dusk patrol
Because you need the carapace
late osprey
cheaper, chapters are on a budget you know
dusk patrol
It’s not that
late osprey
they dont get to be as wealthy as they are by spending frivolously
behind all that gilding? it's all from the lowest bidders
crystal forum
"we're worse than chaos, we're businessmen!"
late osprey
calgar WAS an accountant before getting drafted into the ultramarines, you know
vagrant fox
a ten year old accountant?
crystal forum
calgar WAS an accountant before getting drafted into the ultramarines, you know
i dont even know if you're making that up and it still makes sense
late osprey
a ten year old accountant?
average 40k lore
"by age 5, dante had destroyed an entire village of enemy tribesmen"
winter vessel
Would not be good to kiss
late osprey
who do you think the most OBNOXIOUS chapter's marines would be to work with in Deathwatch
my money is on BTs or Space Wolves
crystal forum
flesh tearers