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TRUUUU
i like montreal but fuck me sideways i am not living there
But yeah Cheta being so ironically "human" helps boost it a lot
Gurnee is about 2 hours from me I think
Yep also again adds depth compared to her being just a generic noble
Toronto was pretty nice
I get enough of those in most 40k shit I read so i agree
its nice to have a difference
toronto sucks
even if the book still had a lot of asshole generic nobles
inferior montreal
hey you know how it is with rich people
Uh huh
dilara stop posting images of his twin brother
that scene in the nightclub was sad bro
whos
Quebec was ok if it wasnāt for all the French, ugh
Only part of the novel where I felt anything tbh
Imagine being cucked by France still after like
americans when not english
200 years
Its all they got when its not ruining other countries tbh
england cucked new france you got it the other way around
I did hate when they were also calling for help from the bargirl and she got clapped š
Either way
did you know how new france fell to the british
But it was nice
Paris actually, Iāll say, I had largely only positive experiences there
Well if he got blasted by that shotgun we'd have no novel dingus
the english general climbed a hill and attacked from behind and boom now the entire colony is controlled by the uk
fuck you, you said it yourself hes a PRICK
I mostly didnāt meet anyone who was actually rude or mean
Yeah but hes a well writtne prick
actually you reminded me
i think my favorite thing was how throughout the entire novel hes like
"man i cant wait to leave this planet by the time they start the ritual, hehehe fucking idiots"
Maybe Iām just a ray of sunshine but yeah, people were nice
that's because you're a tourist and american
hey its either being an imperial nazi or a spikey brainwashed cthulu cultist
I somehow doubt theyāre being nice to me because of that
homie really thought he was gonna distrupt terra itself 
I wasnāt giving any of them money
such it is with chaos characters tho again
guy thinks hes more important than he actually is
they're not being nice they just dont insult you in english
Jay Iām capable of reading vibes
Thats every ethnicity lol
Paris is worse
not the worst edgelord chaos character i read
looks at Night Lords trilogy
but agreed i liked him still
HEY
it's a good trilogy i will fight you

Yep tho it does make me wish we got more books with chaos cult centric content
Saaaaaame
I do wish we got more chaos cultist stuff in general for novels
something like day of ascension but chaos would be great

It is popular
Anyway
I mean people seem to love it
I hope it happens at some point
So itās the best obviously
Yeah your day of ascension comparison is what i hope for
it was a novel i also liked
even if uh
it kinda dragged near the end
Yeaaaah but theres not exactly much you can do with a GSC plot
its always getting eaten lol
minus uh you know that one
"It was me, i was a genestealer all along"
Austria was nice too
based
did you like the mention of alpacas lol
Lmfao that did take me out instantly
also again like i said shows its age
nowadays it would be some madeup animal
what did you think of the novel overall though
I think its good but the ironic anti-climactic ending leaves a bit a lot to be desired
I felt a bit the same but i get why the author did it
In general I kinda think people who go on about so and so country or whatever being mean are probably assholes themselves a bit, sure some people are rude or whatever but most places Iāve been if you act respectful and friendly people are friendly enough.
the protagonist who i also forgot GOD DAMN IT also just doesnt do much
yeah that did also take me out
because it makes it feel like days pass between chapters
Damn
15 hours
Takes places
Over 15 hours?!
I just do the midtown manhattan thing of not being nosy
If im interacting with someone im nice
Yeah it just didnt have much for me
but like this novel is older than some people in this server so i dont lay blame on it too much
Wait
Ye me neither
Is the show 24 called that cause
it definitely leaves a lot to be desired
It takes place over 24 hours?!
but its kinda the life in the guard
yeeeep
its miserable
I think my favorite part was the uh
his squadmates making fun of his dad's grandpa's story
God that fucking part
i kinda felt bad laughing at it
but they are right honestly
I mean yeah
the kid is naive as shit
he doesnt wanna accept hes gonna die in a ditch forgotten
true dat
Nah hes gonna make his grandad proud

Nah blud is cooked š
those kinds of books are interesting. it's like under the dome which has 1000 pages taking place in like 4 days
a lot of details for every minute of the day
Yeah when it works it works.
15 hours is also a classic so to say
so i didnt mind it like i said
Yeah it serves the novel
That guys entire bloodline
Or Bio-dome which is technically 1 hour and 28 minutes but feels like days
The best part is he says his grandad got out by winning a lottery
Wind and Truth being like 500,000 words or so and 10 days long
KEK
War and Peace is 28 days of reading long
what a dumbass
That is very 40k
It very much is ye
the entire novel is just hopeless
its also like, a VERY basic warzone
its just WW1 staring-across-trenches thing
Yeah i appreciated the basic vibe of that as well
"Those crates just fell on their heads. Who else will use their ration tickets?"

I just had to read the book though because I read a lot of early 40k books but its always been marine centric since its kinda what i shaped up to be when i got into the hobby lol
so i skipped 15 Hours as just guard slop at first
Now do you know how bad guard slop actually gets
Marine slop is marine slop but its a good entry point
Kind of
And then you get older and develop taste
Ragnar and Ventris series are amazing
Space Marine fans i ngeneral have a very bad coping mechanism of not accepting most of their books suck
Rafen trilogy sucks
the good books thankfully are still there
you just need a good recommendation for it
But Ventris Id say is a good entry point
Im tryng to remember the first good i read...
I THINK it was Path of the Dark Eldar and then Ragnar straight after
explains a lot
I did the horus heresy thing
oof
Boo
Someone stone this man
Thought the first 3 were good but then it fell off
My first was Titanicus I think
And then Gauntās Ghosts
at this point this is a cliche (even if its true)
"first 3 HH books are great, then I hated it"
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Then Ventris/Eisenhorn
Well it IS true kinda
Yeah basically. Theres like a handful afterwards that are decent
my first book was gaunt's ghost second omnibus
My controversial take is the first three books are actually super mid
Hard to square up to Dan Abnett
And it only starts getting good after
they really suffer from "this was originally gonna be 10 books"
But then its like i read ciaphas, gaunts ghosts
i think they are good but uh
I REALLY
REALLY
can do without the MCU lines
"They walked like a legion, A BLACK LEGION"
fuck off
Theyāre not badly written just

I donāt enjoy them
^
I donāt blame the authors but
i dont enjoy eisenhorn as much as you dilara
I wouldnt praise them highly but they are good
Itās just rough
so thats correct
Space marines fighting space marines?
Such an idea was laughable!
yes I get it

Eisenhorn is alright it just suffers from a lot of meme potential
Horus turning traitor? Such an idea was ABSURD
AAA-
Itās something that I probably would have liked better if I read it as it was coming out
i read the first 3 HH books not knowing much 40k lore so i thought it was cool
Jay you still donāt know much 40k lore
"I am perpetually stoic because some guy tortured me so much my face doesnt have nerves anymore"

i know about valhallans
Gross
Yeah its your pfp dingus!
500 references to eisenhorns carthaen swordsmanship skills
i can name every leman russ variant
The very idea that a space marine would kill another space marine? Laughable.
Meanwhile World eaters are regularly killing each other, they even had a fight with the Space Wolves.
i was there when the emperor died
Alpha legion are loyal!!
all of you SHUT UP
his IMPERIAL FIST
also the two missing legions probably were killed by space marines

No way
not "probably"
they literally were
allegedly
All because of Horus, because of the brightest bastard son, the bringer of new strife.
Dorn heard stone splinter. He looked down, he had punched his fist, his Imperial fist, through a block of stone in the parapet. He had barely registered the impact. The block was pulverised.
"My lord, is everything all right?ā
God damn it
I hate this.
you cna picture like
Abnett writing this
stopping
looking at the sentence
and being like
I hate it so much that I circle around to loving it
"Yeaaaah thats some good shit."
Nah like its peak for the wrong reasons
Abnett 100% wrote this as a serious line
hes like that
i like to think he planned that phrase since the beginning of the book

he needed an excuse
100%
That makes it better
Thats as about on the nose as ferrus manus and his iron hands
he has a logbook full of one liners in his desk
No doubt
I had to put the book down for a minute
same tier vibe
At the imperial fist line
Real, me too
peak 40k
Ngl I love that stupid shit
"No no no he COULDNT have done this"
Itās dumb but memorable
like i said
it works BECAUSE its suppose to be taken seriously
but like, no its not
its great
Me too but it was a different homelander moment
entirely understandable
that's the thing with HH the dumb shit gets old after the first books
but it's fun for the first ones
Chaos spawn from the first book
"fuck erebu-"
Shut the fuck up
I canāt wait for them to try to top the last four seasons with the boys for a gross out weird sex thing
am i not allowed to hate him
It has teeth LOTS AND LOTS OF TEETH

Same, its gonna be great
Hey, did you know Erebus is hated?
Im so glad he kills Loken
i legit clapped when it happened
they will show straight up scat porn at this point
its SO fucking funny
Still tame compared to the source material
No matter how weird the show gets it's still better than the comics LMAO
i did not enjoy the last season
Ennis is a racist, sexist, homophobic piece of shit
The show is legit better than the comics
Hey what if a guy duplicated himself and ate his own ass out?
Isnāt that great? Wait why are you looking at me weird
Itās why I like invincible
I just want the boys to conclude at this point
Remember he got so mad he made a response comic
and its like
hughie with his awfully written trans friend
They use their powers, mostly, pretty uniquely
Except Eve cause
Sheās so broken as fuck
Honestly thats the thing
like
people would legit do this shit with their powers
The very idea that Eve can even be beaten in a fight is laughable to me
eternal they made ass gross to me of all people
Rewatching season 1 is wild
As long as they bash american politics im happy
The bitch can straight up rewrite reality, there's no beating that
With how much higher quality it is
Great value green lantern
My favorite char was soldier boy
Yeah and she still cant make buildings
She can be so much more lol
she weak
"No FUCK YOU"
stupid fucking bitch-
"You made those words up."
that's because jensen ackles
he's so hot
This is true
They even have a mental block to nerf her and sheās still insane
Turns your gun into an active bomb
Soldier boy is my favorite character

Theres also people asking like
"Why doesnt Eve just spawn gold bars and make themselves rich"
Because she wants to be normal
have you seen her dad
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Well they should have said that tbh
she literally tries this
Her dad is a prick
Yeah that i agree with
Tbf
Just make their clothes lead. You've done it before, Eve
Thats afterwards with her breakdown tho
She very much dials herself back
bro is one bad day away from creating a slur for heroes
Realistic dad tbh
also making new gold will just reduce the global price of gold by increasing supply
Thats some Mauler twins type of plot
Realistic maybe but itās not interesting, same as uh
"We will be worse than supervillains."
Marks girlfriend in the comics
I like how laughably pathetic her dad is though
Same
her dad suxks
Itās just boring to me
Maulers get into health insurange
Hes an average white american dad
He is a boring 1 note character
so it works
Best moment so far
They will be back thankfully
It was telecom services actually
The real villians.
can't eve manipulate organic matter if it wasnt for a limiter
Yeah.
I donāt like when I can predict exactly how a character will act always
reshape someones atoms?
i feel like you'd make a flesh monster if oyu dont know what you are doing
no like
a person
She canāt reshape biological matter
Well
improvement for the dad
im sorry jay
She could
She can
But she has a mental block
But she has a mental block
LMAO
Yeah
Mental block, yeah yeah
mental block
dementia
Anyways eve turn them into uranium
Based
joe biden
so shes basically the Emperor
She also loses this at certain points
but no plot restriction
Also doc seismic is better
sounds about right
Your guns are now made of Uranium
Sheās basically scarlet witch when she does
Id say even more above ngl
Whoops, now its acid
I like how they made him like
tho im a massive Scarlet hater so
your lungs are now full of plutonium dust
have fun
gay wad
Funniest change ever
HEY
That oxygen you're breathing? It's now too much oxygen
HE HAS A NAME
Doc seismic
im 90% sure she literally kills the clones with concrete because they have no window
I LOVE HYPEROXIA
Machine Head is the best character
In the show heās insane + heās politically correct
šµ I kNoW WhEre YoUr FaMiLy LiVeSšµ
I love machine head
Lmfao
But itās funny to see him yap about stuff
his voice is so nice
i love giving machine head
I love him losing his cool last ep
Bro chill
That being said
bro is hella racist
im surprised black rock guy didn't punch him for that
You ever get so mad that you become a cannibal?
Couldn't be me.
āI WILL DROWN YOU IN YOUR DAUGHTERS BLOOD, SKIN YOUR WIFE AND EAT YOUR WIFEāS FUCKING HEART AND THATS SAYING A LOT BECAUSE I DONāT EVEN EAT MEATā
He cant
Why would he
hes a in room filled with supervillains under his employ
Holy fuck I wish they had let the dragon dude die last episode
LMFAO
same
hes such a prick
what would machine head do
fucking old asshole
The other members of the order prolly wouldnāt let him
The idea with machine head is basically heās always playing the long game
I gotta actually watch the most recent episode
His chip lets him see quantum probabilities
All I've seen so far are the memes
Also lore wise he canāt die or else the dragon goes on a rampage
you just become the next leader
Which is probably how he could even contact Battle Beast
His chip told him to somehow do it and what to say
That makes a lot of sense
Not sure if theyāve changed that in the show
huh
So how did Battle beast get imprisoned?
But thatās why they canāt kill mr liu in the comics
He didnāt
is machine head just a robot with a human body
Uhhh
is there even a brain
Does that ever get explained?
He let them
He wanted to fight Viltrumites
Lol
^
Heās a robot head on a human body
That was an easy way to get to them
Ah ok
Bro was lying in wait
he was doing a Know No Fear cover at the end of the episode for a reason
Also machine head apparently needs to eat still
so there's no humanity in him
Which is funny lol
also
he has a fembot gooner poster in his cell
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so like
Also heās a vegetarian apparently
hes definitely human
Which is hilarious
Human in all the bad ways
Since he mentions he doesnāt eat meat
also there only being 50 viltrumites explains why furry bait hasn't ever found any yet
He just got rid of the good stuff
"furrybait"
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NAHHH
What, is she a robot body with a human head?
No
He literally gets off while fighting
i'm already sold with battle beast dude
hot
Battle Beast gets like SO good later
I imagine she looks like
he came
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Like heās legit a combat sexual
He just destroyed a minor's ribcage
Bro gets off to violence

18 year olds
where does he come from anyways
A planet
Luckily the biggest enemies he has to fight are mostly bad guys
Itās shown later
is he from a species
Yeah
all strong
Heās a eugenics experiment iirc
ah
Battle beast is just the apex of his species
Battle Beast was once the planetary Guardian of his home planet. However due to the constant fighting, he would grow addicted to it and eventually leave to seek worthy combatants [2]
this is his entire non-spoiler origin
As is his daughter when she eventually shows up
eugenics for the win yet again
Battle beast, go to therapy
As you can predict itās leading to them putting together a team to kill the remaining Viltrumites
Invincible has a weird thing with eugenics lol
We havenāt seen the most dangerous Viltrumite yet
Hope nothing goes wrong with that!
Mhm

kregg?
God i cannot wait for him even if hes next season
Dude
The anti-Viltrumite squad. Consisting mostly of Viltrimites.
^
invincible is power level: the comic
I need to get that panel
And Nolan is one of their best
hold on
emperor of 50 people
Emperor of half the galaxy
i thought it was multiple galaxies
So why are there onlhy 50 viltrimites? Don't they have kids?
Probably I canāt recall
Itās explained
Theyāre racist
that's pure blooded
you figure the moment that they realized that Invincible was a strong subject, they'd immediately go to earth to have more kids
They want to maintain the āpurityā of viltrumite blood
Basically imagine if space marines had the abilities of superman
now make them even more racist
there's prob tons of non pure blooded
well they're now convinced earth is poisonous
FEAR MAGNETO
"BREEDING WITH LESSER SPECIES"
literally cannot wrap their head around the concept of love
Steve Harvey viltrumite
KIIIIILLLL
So racist that they would rather look like the Hapsburgs.
watch the video of uh
lol that was my same reaction
"is that steve harvey holy fuck"
why you need 4 suits as a viltrumite
its literally space marine training regimen THE MOMENT YOU ARE BORN
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Iām not even joking
Baby comes out of the womb and there's like four monsters waiting to tear it apart. If it survives, it gets to eat that night.
also speaking of viltrumites and love
one of the best fucking out of context panels ever
"RAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHH"
Angy
when we go off topic
Which makes it even more fun
Itās also why Earth was of value to them
^
SHE HAS NO MOUSTACHE
They explain why too yeah
They could produce almost entirely pure Viltrumites there
Also why they donāt kill Mark
Yeah its one thing that annoys me
"why dont they kill nolan right away"
"why do they spare mark"
like
Iirc Mark gets raped by the one lady at one point
Anissa
its like one of the most infamous parts of the comic
She crazy
Right. If they consider Mark "good enough" then why is earth not immediately invaded by all 50 viltrimites
They literally have a reference to that panel in the show

With the fucking crater
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This is what we in the industry like to call foreshadowing
No
Mark is traumatized by it
it will make good f material
Itās way later and itās a āminorā plot point
Nah, we gotta have mark get struggle snuggled. It's critical to his character
The fact Anissa ||names the kid Marcus goes fucking crazy||
a cuddle with a struggle
Suffering builds character
My previous message got auto-blocked
Good
Never had that happened before
duplikate is actually still alive
Sheās written better in the show then the comics tbh
somehow everyone survived that part
In fact Iād say every character but like Amber ig lol
i want immortal to be more than tragic
But she isnāt a character in the comics
he's too sad
also is it explained why the wine sucks
Pick your poison
Immortal needs to just git gud
Itās soured lol
is it because it became vinegar or are they young
Itās not wine anymore
Wine has a specific "aging point"
if its like THAT old it will taste like shit
Rex just steals the wine in the comics and drinks it
And he says it tastes sour
Lol
ah so ye
Also i was gonna say with Immortal
man his past lovers shit and the voice acting legit almost ruiend me
Itās good
He had a rough time
him not even remembering kate is oof

come on. abrham lincoln do something
He made the mistake of falling in love with people who will die
Immortal is cool imo
Guess what happens when they die?
Heās just constantly punching above his weight class
im a big cecil stan
Cecil is literally Malcador
does anything stop immortal from just going to space
and im here for it
Morality.
and finding hot alien babe
Cecil gets shit done
He needs to hold his breath
LMAO
While everyone else is whining about "probable cause" and "Civil liberties"
where did cecil's teleporter go this season
what
HE LITERALLY USES IT
what episode are you at
Why he doesnāt teleport when heās being choked
he doesnt use it as much
Bro
Or
so he can reveal he installed a fucking sonic weapon in mark's head lol
The growth economic of lichestan but more
he teleported right before omni man crushed his neck
Is the shows given cost lol
Cecil got hit with the power bill
Too expensive. Cheaper to just hope Mark doesn't kill me.
But yeah someone did the math
And his talk with Omniman is like
100 million dollars
^
Spoiler to why he doesnāt do it with Mark
Unless you just want the answer
that's like a drop in the bucket
Itās not a big spoiler
for an end of the world threat it's not bad
I feel like the destroyed space station is a bigger cost
He has a ace in the hole with Mark
Cecil is fine with Mark choking him ||because it lets Mark feel like he has power in the relationship||
No
Cecil is capable of playing a fucking teenager
^
Heās dealt with way worse
i think he sucks at that part
the ace in the hole being something other than the wierd sound attacl
Lol
Wait
to be fair
It turns out
not the biggest feat
no there isn't the episodes havent come out yet
Always had like five contingencies
yeah they hinted like 8 of them
Personally I found the Asian American on Asian violence problematic
"i like to do long panning shots so i can save the budget"
Like
There's a scene where he's flying with Eve in his old super hero costume and it confused the hell out of me
why does he look fat
its true the animation isnt great sure but also its such a "who gives a shit" problem
He just looks that way in the comics
you mean invinciboy?
still better than berserk remake š
SHUT.
"vaguely offensive"
his bodyguard is named the "great wall"
i choked reading that in the subtitles
He should have been wearing that. He wasn't. I suspect it was an animation error
LMAO
woke
real
also true
He can have a racist accent, he can be white, or he can have a fu manchu. Pick one
No chance they're dead for real
Yeah and? Itās peak
Not after that "We're businessmen" line.
they had too many arcs for side characters
I also liked the bit where Doc Seismic kicked everyone's ass.
ill say
he's asian american he's allowed to be racist
Itās goofier in the comics
yeah they state there's still heros outside the country
They had to limit his power levels to give them a chance
I'm sort of surprised nobody has thrown him into space yet
he must exist to make social commentary
It's the natural hard counter to his abilities
"rock good"
Remove him from the earth. Done.
Humans may use trees to build houses.
Nothing more
he never taught
average college loser
Imagine never teaching
waste entire life in school, blame society
pathetic
Nah he just hates society lol
Heās literally a return to monkey sort of dude
Not even that, since monkeys use rocks
nobody tell him trees have carbon
im pretty sure planning to kidnap every super hero is thinking it through
He's great at tactical thinking, just not strategic thinking
Heās insane and a genius
he should become a dark angel
His best friends are lava people and giant centipedes
i respect it
i like how earth has creatures capable of killing super heros casually living in the inner crusts
better hope they dont do a gears of war
Basically the entire show^
It is funny how Mark finds so many things that can kick his unkickable ass
https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/sidearmenergy.php
so apparently there's some credence to the idea of the lasgun, at least according to atomic rockets
where's the part that mentions lasguns
i am not reading all that
oh it doesnt talk abt lasguns specifically
just like
laser weapons
says theyre plausible
specifically a lot of the stuff he describes fits the lasguns description
this was really just an excuse to link atomic rockets cause I like them
the conclusion outright says the point of that page is to determine the optimal settings of a laser if it was possible to achieve that level of power to begin with. i don't believe it shows evidence for hand held laser weaponry being feasible in any real world scientific way
lasguns are not meant to be realistic
Very rude
it only takes simple calculations to realize a lasgun magazine would be an unreasonably powerful energy source which makes you question even further why the imperium doesn't use electric engines for their tanks
dont mind me i just work with optical-electrical transceivers
not as many chargers as there are gas stations
Weāve had the tech for years itās just not feasible for personal small arms
you'd just have to replace a lascannon magazine sized box
what do you mean siggy
also Big Promethium
Laser weaponry was figured out a while ago
what is it used on siggy
Itās just not economical to make personal laser weaponry
what uses laser weaponry
Anti air and anti missile
SAMS
Yea so canāt have tiny lasers
What if I have big strong arms?
that is what i was talking about siggy
I didnāt read any messages prior to mine
based
Boolets are more fun
Thats why we dont use that pussy laser shit
Also u cant rack a lasgun
support small autogun makers
dont rely on shady photons for your hits
those fuckers can't even decide if they're a wave or a particle
i guess? but it talks about stuff like how they could be shaped, historical examples, and pulses and stuff
yes pulsed lasers. that's how they're designed in real life for a variety of reasons
but none of this is lasgun territory
lasguns don't even pulse themselves, they shoot single shots
sometimes they even have recoil
it also mentions wavelength choice which i do find interesting. it makes me think, would a lasgun shot go through a window or smash into it like a physical projectile?
I dont think we would have a good cooling solution if we had a real lasgun
Thing must get hot as fuck
that could be handwaved with the lasgun's internals having cooling components which i believe is mentioned occasionally
Yeah i was thinking about if we handwaved past the ability to actually generate that much energy in real life
How would we cool it
well the barrel could be thick steel, which would absorb and dissipate a large amount of the heat

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