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oh wait this reminds me eternal is the iron hands necrotechnica really powerful
But in general the chapter is happy to take the new tech and the primaris organs
you literally heal your vehicle by killing
so et can i have an iron hand that's basically just
The Ironstone is a relic of the Iron Hands.[1]
This device must be mag-clamped to the gorget of the bearer, where it gathers energy from their Power Armour, gradually awakening the cluster of Machine Spirits within. When a vehicle nearby suffers damage, the machine spirits will surge out and swiftly repair the wounded machine.[1]
Stuff like this
An iron hand that has like a heavily modified power armor
Nothing quite like that but some do their assault marine veterans get pretty wild with augmetics
shame
oh well to the garbage draft board
my plan is
ram tank into enemy horde
kill enemy horde and heal tank at the same time
profit
Not the worst idea
Ferrus is hilarious cause he can repair the shit out of nearby vehicles too
Which is a hilarious image
here take this medkit
Just lifting up a tank and doing some quick repairs
i was surprised to learn that iron warriors have their own iron fathers
they literally repair vehicles too
like what
but why
They have similar legion focus
why are iron warriors the sworn rivals of imperial fists instead of iron hands
ok so if i get this right,
-iron hands praise brutal simplistic efficiency
-salamanders praise craftmanship
-iron warriors praise independence
im definitely not getting something
then what are iron warriors
Siege, more brutal, ruled with an iron fist
Ferrus was beloved by his legion and he let them actively argue with him an disagreed
Perturabo killed people for giving him bad news
Yeah, more so than a lot of legions
Iron Hands are more mobile mechanized warfare too
Massive attacks orchestrated at once
Iron Warriors are more artillery focused and digging in and slowing whittling the enemy down
Like all legions there’s crossover though
so do we know why ferrus manus really wanted to remain loyal if he was so open to independent thought
isn't that not what the emperor was about
He still at the end of the day enforced his choices
He just was open to disagreement
When it came to the actual fight everyone obeys orders and whatever
He was also pretty simple in test he knew his role
Same with the legion
They were made for war and that was what he was good at
Most all his inventions were to fuel the war machine
He made a lot of vehicles and weapons and stuff which could be mass produced
Upgrades to existing patterns
He had plans for after but during the GC he was very focused on just being a weapon.
so why did he not join horus on his war
Which is part of his disgust with Lorgar and Perturabo
He hated the whining about their purpose beyond that
Because he was loyal
did he not also realize the emperor would get rid of them if he succeeded with the great crusade
or so horus thought
There’s no proof he would
yes but the sentiment was there initially
wouldn't ferrus be swayed by that notion
so ferrus was just blindly loyal?
No one ever showed him a good enough argument to turn
Fulgrim tried to convince him but he mostly appealed to their friendship
he tried to kill fulgrim the moment he even entertained the idea of rebelling
Horus never thought he would turn
He was stubborn and also
You’re asking him to turn against his entire purpose for like 200 years of fighting
He was the fourth primarch found
He had led a whole prong of the crusade for over a century
And for him it’s just Fulgrim asking him to turn because they’re close friends
superhero soap opera
There’s no reason for him to
thats the heresy
fulgrim's arguments were shit yeah
Basically
Horus never had good arguments either tbh
He saw visions which he couldn’t confirm
The fall of a lot of the primarchs is
they had no use outside war
horus was vain
There was tons they could do
he mostly wanted the power and glory for himself
And it’s not like the marines would stop being needed
it's the fact that he thought the emperor would get all the statues that pissed him off
seems like self-induced paranoia was somewhat of a factor
he was very vain
He also literally got corrupted by chaos
Like I said I don’t care for his fall but a lot of it’s hurt by how they had to rush the early stuff
It’s how it goes
i think of all primarchs, horus's fall is the most done out of real reasons instead of magical chaos energy
I wish they could re do the early books and expand on the GC parts
fulgrim's fall is just magic sword
looks at the word bearers kneeling
i dont like fulgrim's story
actually no yeah lorgar had the most reasons to rebel
he did exactly what the emperor was setting up by wiping all religions and putting himself as commander in chief of a fucking galaxy
worship!
like what else was there going to be
if I ever had a more face palming moment in my life, is me reading Big E's approach of "getting the message across" to his pious son
he certainly wasn't father of the year
all the things he did to his sons yet he starts showing real kindness while fighting horus
the worst possible time
Anyways, let’s list favorite primarchs
- Guilliman
- Perturabo
- The others
And then we can do a “favorite Avatar of Khaine deaths” tier list
2 and 11. Because like my sense of self-respect, they’re gone
We should instead do a "least memorable Founding Chapters" list

Horus is #1 because he stars in the 30k cinematic trailer which is still the best thing to come out of 30k
get owned
Said no 40k fan that is sane ever
because women are cool
Here’s one. What’s worse, being pulled into hell and tortured by Cenobites or…Condemned to Slaanesh’s domain?
Yeah as i expected you are not sane
Thats basically the same thing
Lets just go to imaginarywarhammer, surely it won't be full of shitty the joke is porn memes
especially since Slaanesh "pleasures" are just cenobite stuff
Okay jokes aside
its been awhile since i visited that subreddit
lemme take a look

Maybe not worse, I’d say who does it better
Oh you zog
Cenobites.
Do not post what you see there
https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1irr0cl/in_which_ways_iron_handss_bionics_are_superior_to/
Its their entire gimmick
The one that jerks you of-
I don't know maybe the fact that
IT'S FUCKING METAL
Which is stronger than flesh
Everyone just lists the one stupid line from Wrath of Iron and acts like one Magos’s theory is in universe factual
But Thulsa Doom told me flesh is stronger
I assure you, the necessity of replacing my augmented natural flesh arm with a hand mixer, was absolute
Which, btw, is from an outdated book
Bro the top result.
Eldar dressed like whores
Where her own theory is directly contradicted
at the bottom
Oh yeah
(inhales
Dilara do i have permission to skin someone alive
“Iron Hands have no reason to replace their bodies with metal, Astartes bodies are already perfect.”
Same book
“Iron Hands survives getting a fucking poisoned Dameon Prince blade rammed into his stomach because his augmetics.”
I'm on the ttrpg server where that commissioner is active, they own a bunch of factories in China and just commission slutty eldar nonstop
How curious
What about the slyth that's built like a porn star on the right
I also hate like
"Why do they do this-"
And we’re just parroting shit online
because they fucking want to
holy shit, shut up
"Why do Thousand Sons use magic"
idfk because its their gimmick

Dude i'm not the smartest guy in the planet but like
There's a good reason why augmentics are a good thing
My idea for a heretic unit in Trench Crusade:
It's literally built to be better than your physical organs
What's so hard to grasp
Like, this isn’t some obscure lore, literally every single appearance they have an IH survives some crazy shit cause his augmetics
It’s their entire identity in their rules too is their toughness
People get so weird about like, any idea that the augmetics are actually an objective improvement
Yeah also, is it one of the things literally said about them is that they're augmentics are so high quality and so well built that they straight up can physically be the most powerful astartes, able to match chapters that can grow to abnormal size like the black dragons
I dont really care if its "mean" or not shit like this is why you should always tell people upfront when their ideas are terrible.
Kill me
makign your rogue trader use a dark angels heavenfall blade?
oh right that also is a thing

Dont ask lol
HORRIDNESS
I hate him.
Damn it web looks like i'm going to be playing shotgun roulette tonight
I so deeply hate all warhammer home brewers
Shes a rogue trader whos also an Inquisitor of two ordos that is also a mechanicus knight pilot.
???????????????

Bros see this dope ass setting
All right i'm going to stop you right there before i have a brain aneurysm
me when I'm very special
tau bottom
And their first idea is to ship themselves with Celestine
^
And there goes my good mood from finishing my new antioch war band
in my 40k fanfics the Tau have no ass
Literally stronger, sometimes faster, tougher, and stuff like actual insane time dilation with some.
There’s an excerpt of one dude slowing down his perception of time so 1 second is a minute long for him, so he can watch Drukhari in slow motion.
We’re outright told their chapter has much older marines on average than any other chapter because this, they’re hard to kill and as they get older they only get harder to kill.
Yeah i wouldn't be surprised if they're augmentics can allow them to match the strength of like a black dragon marine
There’s like three or four dudes we know of who are almost certainly at or close to 1000 years old in the chapter, and probably more we don’t
I have a genuine iron hands inquiry
I remember reading lore YEARS ago
about how they have some type of like immortal terminators or something
Helfathers
That people don't talk about cause it's heretek shit or something
Wait what how ? 
Like the most Xenophobic regime and that
The most extreme mutations also cause rampant growth in the rest of the Marine's skeleton; some Dragon Claws stand more than three metres tall and must wear custom power armour to fit their gargantuan frames.[3b]
He just adds what he thinks cool to his rogue trader
But yeah i wouldn't be surprised if these guys would probably find their match on a heavily augmented iron hand
It’s just so annoying, especially when you’re in homebrew servers
You see it first hand
But yeah they do
The worst part is NOBODY mostly calls them out on this shit
Has space marine organs but doesn't look like a deformed abomination?
Basically the uh
NOBODY
I'm guessing
Keys of Hel is a bunch of fake age tech that Ferrus hid away on Medusa
wtf is wrong wit you
yeah like going back to that image as an example
every single fmeale character
has their tits out
or is dressed like some slut
Bros barking to the most basic attractive woman in a sci fi setting
Can you send me what this thing looks like
I'm already having a brain aneurysm may as well make my brain bleed
Me when generic white bimbo
Maybe if people had done that we wouldn't see this
Or maybe because they did
The rogue trader is its own whole thing
I want to believe that his name is just “Him”, because he’s so self absorbed into his way of thinking that when he introduces himself, he’s just going to say “I am Him”
dude
I remember when he posted that on the subreddit
Except mine of course, it's awesome and very well written
half the comments were bullying him
It doesn’t look bad at first, but if you read the shit
It’s impossible
And @storm jungle this one apparently has what space marine organs?
Yeah theres an entire second page
where it explains the lore of all her equipment
During the Heresy the Iron Hands basically ignored Ferrus’s restriction on using that tech and opens the vaults, the tech which let them resurrect the dead was one of those.
@viral halo
There was also a lot of fucked up Dark Age super weapons and viruses and shit.
Yea my character is actually a mandalorian jedi master who is also a sith dark lord and was trained by darth revan actually
Yeah it’s in the implant list and shit
All right then i'm offing myself hold on
the dark angels heavenfall blade stuff made me lose my mind
The Bitter War[1a] was a campaign that began in 010.M31 during the Horus Heresy,[1a] pitting various Loyalist forces of the Imperium against the Word Bearers defending Colchis. The conflict was concluded in 032.M31 when Colchis was destroyed in the Great Scouring.[2]
theres like a dozen of those in fucking existence
Which they used to destroy Colchis
What in the Winx club looking ass
how the fuck do you have one
The KEYS OF HEL
I haven’t seen their explanation for it tbh
There is none
I asked him in inkary's server
Before the Ultramarines showed up to finish it off
Is this meant to be a Gauntlet or something ?
😀
I thought the weird Dark Age wacky science stuff was supposed to belong just to the Dark Angels, the more you know
its a "shield"
All the legions had at least something
Dude most of my things are hey this looks cool but, how the f*** do i have the decency of asking does this make sense for this look cool
The DA could just “publicly” use it
Theres nothing wrong with adding something because "it looks cool"
but like-
come on lmao
Ferrus kept stuff which he didn’t think should be used at all in vaults on Medusa
FOR FUCK SAKE MY ORK IS RIDING A BLOODY MAW-KRUSHA
I’ve got a space marine that’s almost entirely augments because it looks cool
The DA stuff was things the Emperor gave them
But don’t go breaking fuckin lore
Why dont you like
Iron hands do have the coolest terminator unit ever
BUT IT STILL MAKES SENSE
My chaplains all have jars of the emperors sperm
YEET
my warhammer oc is the natural son of the emperor from back when he had sex with thine mother
Man i really wish i told baron his OC sucks back when this was posted
There’s a great upgrade someone made to resize them to the new terminator size
I share a server with this bitch btw
Read that as SPAM
I dont even know them
and I already hate them
lol
like... ugh
I cant even post any closeups of that shit because its just slutty female characters
😭
Unfortunately by the way they make ocs i can tell that they will react violently like a khorne berzerker if you tell them it sucks
In that Ordo Discordia, for 40k ttrpgs, there was a woman telling him to maybe make the breasts smaller nonstop. It was genuinely chuckle worthy
The fucking “warframe” character
Is a man of iron
Yeah I saw that like months ago
Working for eldar corsairs
bruh
wtf is this dude
UR-15 is having a heart attack
And people be “🔥”
Sounds very cool, I hope a majority is kept secret forever
also who the fuck is that fantasy girl in the background
This shit is a gas leak
Sounds like the average child in kindergarten who plays with dolls and does pretend fights but is that guy who says “invincible to everything power”
Random Corsair
He likes eldar cause he can make them hot
It's a neat idea, totally shit on in execution
I mean that one space marine up top
I guess hes doing something
THAT idea i can get
but like, again shit execution
Bro thinks he's doty from vox machina
ALSO
this is one of the 2 guys who does art for the fuckin
Tau guy
With the red heads
I think I know who you mean
is that the dumbass that did a Tau abrahms?
because hes like some ex-army dipshit 💀
He is definitely not ex army lol
LOL
My favorite tau tank fanart
Damit silence it's happening again
Is the “somebody shoot that guy”
We're talking about dumb ocs
Meme
My brain is killing itself again
Why not
wheres my massive tits
Hah
Idk
you are suppose to say "kill yourself"
more
And if he is a male tau, where is his sensei wu mustache
and his cone hat
I couldn’t find the Tau one
All male tau OC’s must have the sensei wu mustache
Honestly
true true
at this point tau have been ruined for me by the fanbase so i just dont care ngl
Me with any Xenos OC in 40k:
Lol
There’s a marine one too
change "xenos" to "any OC"
except mine of course
son of a-
My home brew is relatively speaking a bit over the top but it's still within the bounds of reason
I could post the homebrew I’ve written and not get crucified
I’m just a normal human with a human bias in 40k
The biggest issue with my fallen
Is the way they got to the present is kinda convoluted
Same completely i will admit over the top and have some questionable but it's not that too bad
Where my oc is just a Tempestus scion and a sister from the order of the Sacred Rose
ı dont get it
Also
wheres the big tits
Almost forgot
That’s a lot of fallen
Uhhh
Hard a lot of fallen
do we count semi-bump as tits
I FUCKING HATE THAT SHIT
No
My ork oc rides a large monster that can stop a bane blade and he can teleport to his location with a specialized grenade and made an unstable dimension for storage of weapons and has his own personal ship and his both a pain boy and a mekboy
omg
All of this is held together with the fact that he is an ork
That’s actually the most annoying thing for me
No but I’m certain you will get this
It doesn’t make much sense when they’re like huge
But like
Why tf does your tech priest have exposed tits
Lol
How the hell is that
I don’t think there’s problems with like
And why are they so BIG
Less ridiculous than the things you have described
No
I’ve got like
I want to live smh
5 tech priests
With a head that looks like a hairdryer
One is the fuckers from the transformers movie
What
Look i would but there's nothing in there
I think the most "sexy" techpriest I ever did was this
but thats kinda the point of her character lol
Smash next question
LMAO
Lol
A vex goblin
Bros pelvis is going to get obliterated
idk what a vex goblin is 💀
Destiny enemy
We've played these games before
I think I have their names on a chart
People in this chat have the propensity to fall in love with pelvis breakers
garden gnome looking ass
Lol
I’m trying to write in a word bearer oc being brought through to the 42nd millennium through warp travel time fuckery
Conglomerate is the multi brained lad/lass
Anyways who’s cringe OC caused this entire convo to start
What's her entire sctick why does she bother would like a beautiful enhancements and stuff
Anyway
One dudes bunch of em actually
Do I even want to know
You don’t but you will
They fit the category of “never interacted with a woman face to face”
I didnt think much beyond her wanting to look beautiful through the use of steel while still keeping a "human" shape.
My female techpriest spectrum is like
hot lady
or this:
this is way better than hot lady
Based
wtf is that a child
I should get art commissioned for my tech priests
LMAO
That’s just a child
in eldar uniform too
i can't i eated it all
They’re all horrific amalgamations
wtf is he doing here
Except like
uhh
hes probably adoptd
Who’s normal looking, because they’re stuck with a guard regiment

I somehow find this more appealing also wtf it’s like a BB from Death stranding in that artificial womb
Yeah right
Still would though
Breedable Techpriestess?
Uhhh opposite
its like reverse-breeding
he takes your blood
and grows out a clone to cut up to replace your limbs
And grows a clone
But i'm going to be honest this is actually a pretty good idea if executed well
How thoughtful
I remember this one, it’s a very cool idea
Ty ty
Sounds like I’m inseminating still
Well thats okay, she has a fucking glass pregnancy stomach
Madness
This sounds like a cool idea for a vendor in a dark MMO game
so it works out lol
It is cool though
ty ty
And definitely someone’s fetish
Yeah i was right everyone in this chat has the propensity to fall in love with the pelvis breaker type romance
Like they’re very nice, but when you request a limb to be replaced, there’s a gruesome cutscene of the PROCESS
Stormcast, assassins, sisters of silence
I like all factions equally (minus tau im lazy) so i tend to try and get art of em all
Next cyberpunk game
Yeah more or less lmao

I like every faction in 40k

I know everyone likes breaking their pelvis but damn wolf i didn't know you roll like that
I don’t dislike any I just can’t get into some
I wasn't familiar with your game
New operator pack
I mean this in all ways
real...
Looks cool
He actually looks pretty cool with a helmet
The chapter my veteran uncle likes
His special ability is Warcrimes
Tau is the only one i never can get into
No no
its warcrimes and helping local populaces do warcrimes
Fuckin phat beak

anyway
i hate you all and especially Sigsen for triggering this OC chat
and making me see that horrific artwork
Tau, dark eldar and votaan
im gonna go end it all brb
Dark Eldar i got like one OC
Me when I hear people justify their pelvis breaking tendencies:
and its an archon for me and my friend
I already posted this, but basically my iron jaw ork mercenary in 40k with his axe scrap rippa, Ard'Gob
Idk I just gotta read their books I reckon.
I have a Dracon with an inferiority complex 
Hold on let me get the image
I only wrote one thing with votaan and it was killing them lol
Ngl LoV still don’t have a ton
They got that gav book
nice cabinet
that's a cupboard
So might as well be negative
Yeah i'm a dumbass
do you want to see my comissar oc ?
Why not
My first instance of oc creation was in halo, for myself and my sister
selfie time
AUGH-
Lol
Anybody good with geoguesser?
Snag his shit
I’m the best with it in my friend group
That does not mean I’m good
i cropped her out manually from the poster
Everyone is just worse
I dub thee rainbolt
That genuinely sounds like agony
Why
Dukane sounds like someone I knew in high school but they had braces
i wanted to
ORK ORK ORK
for my ironman cemetery
based
I do like orks
did you draw that
Nah one of the artists here made it
ah
I think I had one for my zealot
Bulgur since it’s this time of the year
Neat
Iron jawz gaming
I’m curious
Basically going to shorten it,
He was both a pain boy and a mek boy
Make some a lot of money
But you see his old war boss was a dumbass
And after a series of failures he decided to make a new ship and dip
a mekain boy, if you will
He killed the grots that helped him build the ship by the way
And so now he travels the galaxy as a mercenary
Sounds like a politicians last name
Smart dude
Also he modified his squigosaur and basically make it into a age of sigmar Maw-krusha
Fuck yeah
And thanks to a teleporter beacon he attached to his pet, he can throw teleportation grenades to teleport this giant thing that can stop a bane blade to his location or to the enemy position
And yeah he also by the way modified his own ship as time went on upgrading it to be basically his own little base with multiple facilities and even grows fungus meatshrooms
For food
Yeah he's basically just a mercenary that goes around like system to system doing jobs and stuff
And he keeps his word most of the time unless he feels like he got cheated out of the deal
In which then he will basically kill his contractor in the most brutal way he knows
Oh he also saves people because he thinks that there's more of them he can kill more of them in the future even though most of them end up dead anyway
There you go silence that's basically it
I appreciate the agricultural lore
Well you need to reliable food in space and what more reliable than meat mushrooms that can basically grow anywhere
Fair enough tbh
if hadron is a techno archaeologist how come she hasnt went planet side and actually looked for shit
who says she hasn't
Yeah one of my most proud creations this guy is Ard'Gob the Mad shoota, which is literally an iron jaw mega boss in 40k
me
she has all her underlings do shit for her anyways
she's too high profile to give a shit about collecting lasguns
🙄 sounds like you're on the payroll
i wish
going around grabbing guns seems like a fun job
plus you just know her underlings have access to her special stuff
She has in a short story
She went to go check out the old Moebian steel foundry
That was probably her original job was
But with unfortunate unfortunate timing
You know what happens next
She basically got force into the position of being our mechanical handler
Who are you
her boss?

she's a glorified armorer now
something i realzied is like, a space marine probably wouldnt survive aos
the mortal realms is stupid dangerous
maybe a quartermaster actually
but i dont think she's in charge of that level of logistics
what does morrow do anyways
Yeah shes not
other than be lovable
shes just the head techpriest
He hits us
of the whole operation?
that's not bad of a role
No lmao
ah then just of the reject department lol
so she does just disassemble and reassemble guns all day
no wonder she's cranky
Primus, basically oversee us peons
he's pretty chill for a steel legion veteran
if ogryn can teach her blessings i might as well be her boss
wdym teach
i thought we earned the right to have better weapons from her which is what masteries are
Yeah
the cycle of being trusted to not then back to being trusted
ah the true 40k cycle
no varlet you don't get the good shovels until you earn it
as she tries to block your line of sight from her mountain of discarded shovels behind her
i never forgot the pre crafting update hadron smh
YES METAL LADY THIS IS HOW YOU PUT THRUST ON A SHOVEL
just hit harder lmao - Hadron
Apparently there's a Terminator Anime
And from what it looks like it seems to be good
Honestly having a fucking change in location to teleport into is already interesting
I watched it, its pretty fun
Essentially, a Terminator being in Japan, a country without many guns is actually pretty interesting
Mf literally made a hand crossbow
Really wish we got to see a Terminator use like a Katana or something
I wanna see more stuff like terminator salvation from the franchise tbh
You played out the past, that story is done. Show off the actual war
Also the arcade game is extremely fun
Salvation was interesting
It still kinda sucked but it did try something new and it was genuinely interesting for that
Although at this point I think Skynet just loves throwing people
Like the fucking Terminator Resistance game has a DLC where you play as a T-800
And there is a mechanic where you pick up people and throw them
Like I genuinely think that Skynet just loves throwing people
T4 has it a lot.
T5 and Dark Fate too
Along with the anime.
I genuinely think that it's now an inside joke among those that fucking work on the franchise
What does a Ranger long rifle being fired look like?
short brief laser beam
usually some obnoxiously hard to see color
similar to a long-las
Except much more powerful
and probably some obnoxiously hard to see color
either that or purple
For no reason other than purple looks nice
What I am wondering is where the fuck is the trigger
seriously how the fuck do you actually fire it
is it the long ass handle, does it work like a lever?
No trigger
you're a fuckin psyker
tell the gun to shoot
A lot of craftworld eldar guns lack triggers
oh it literally works by using your fuckign mind
just tell the gun to shoot
same with reloading ammo
sometimes it just grows the ammo in the fucking magazine
honestly an eldar video game would be cool due to how fucking wacky the weapons are
also would intrusive thoughts make the gun fire
like you think about shooting somebody for a sec for no reason
and then it actually fires
or do you have to focus and deliberately think it
yeah that makes sense
although how tf would non-psykers do it
you don't
non psykers can't use eldar guns designed like this
some CWE guns have conventional triggers
some don't
i checked the deldar guns
and yuo
*yup
they all have triggers
so basically psykers can only use some eldar guns
Yeah
do the shrukien weapons at least have a trigger
and its not an issue for the eldar because they're all psykers
it depends
Eldar guns are pretty non standard
idk why eldar stuff is considered peak tech when it's just psyker stuff
it depends on the person making them
its Psyker tech
Its also not always psyker stuff
you can't convince me they got their stuff through science
stuff like the Prism cannon isn't a psyker
basically, different branches of the tech tree.
The Necrons are the top of like actual material sciences
its a fucking las cannon on meth that can fire from any other prism
its like the wet dream
The Eldar are the top of like the psyker stuff
humanity's tech wasn't inferior it was just physical focused
shurikens are physical right
tbf there are some psyker shit that daot humanity had so it wasn't territory untouched.
Shurikens are physical yes
also Craftworld eldar tech
isn't the pinacle of eldar tech
but yeah humanity was mostly focused on physical shit
they have the scraps lol
same with Drukhari tech
though there's is more advanced sometimes
they also lack the best tech
also they're made to last not necessarily to be the most powerful.
all the best eldar stuff is only usable by psykers and is either in the eye of terror, comorragh or black library
The drukhari and clowns sure as shit aren't sharing
it's like how the best gun for self defense probably isn't a fucking Anti-Tank gun
and the Eye of Terror is uh

not a good place to be
but why is it considered tech when i have not seen an eldar scientist
yeah and they divine shit through their minds
they just look like this
that's artisan stuff not tech
Haemonculi actually do develop technology.
and sing to grow a fucking gun
also yeah Haemonculi are Drukhari scientists lol
though their science is more so fucking around
Its all from the Empire yes
A bonesinger fills all those roles.
and we have no idea how the empire operated right
well we do
We do yeah
sorta
we have some idea
and generally it was uhhh
very very degenerate
when it wasn't fucked
and also very advanced
like beyond DAOT Humanity
Including the pedophilia 
Lmao
"implied" is crazy
i havent seen eldar invent AI
well
"Bro he told me that he was 100 years old."
they do have AI
is AI a purely human creation
no
Not relaly
except tau
why would it be
Tau did it, humans did it, eldar did it, crons did it
a lot of eldar farms are run by AI drones
No but we happened to go forward with it enough to backfire.
well relatively basic
Drones and shit mostly.
Usually just used for stuff like famring
thats not artificial
wraith constructs are like putting your dead ancestor in a mech suit
Also the drukhari use AI
its literally just robots but psychic
soooo a soul
no
its an AI controlled with psychic powers
damn
why would it have a soul
like the Castellax Achea
so somebody is controlling it?
No
Basically, it's similar to the Daleks.
Both have the capability to literally just disintegrate you instantly
bruh its just a robot
because they get off of it
the goal is to maximize agony
"wraith-drones" and "psychomatons" are the only two names we get
they were so advanced they did all the fighting and colonizing at that point in the Empire
i prefer votaan AI
Basically just think of them as robots made out of different material.
just your bro
That's it.
Who are quite literally senile
theres no lore saying Ironkin are 100% loyal
^
just like any other person
they can think for themselves
but because they're treated like actual people, they usually don't.
that's why you make a friend
beign friends doesnt stop anything
also the Ironkin are still vulnerable to chaos corruption unfortunately
who hurt you dilara
as was evidenced when the LoV squared up against Vashtorr
that was not a good time
Hey did you know that daemons can posses sapient AI

friends can betray you though
like
that's what betrayal is

the ancestors couldn't have predicted this
probably not but daemons can possess ai
so
yeah
OH MAN I FORGOT ABOUT THAT EXCERPT

Honestly, I 100% think the Men of Iron betraying humanity was just a mix of different reasons
I mean we dont know anything about what happened

