40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

the bodies are infinitely replenishable

the minds are not

enough damage to a body can irreversibly destroy an engram

or transfers can destroy the engram

[hasty coral]

Ok but do they not know how to make ai?

[arctic talon]

They do

but those are for Canopteks

[hasty coral]

Make em

For like

More stuff

[arctic talon]

well

they do

Canopteks can fight, build, ect.

they just require specialists to make and maintain

Crypteks who specialize in canoptek stuff are the only ones who can keep on making them and keep them operational

[hasty coral]

Operational?

They are made of necrodermis

[arctic talon]

canopteks need repairs to their AI

but yes they are necrodermis(mostly)

[hasty coral]

I’m sorry fucking what?

[arctic talon]

canoptek AI suffers from degredation due to damage

to the canoptek itself

[hasty coral]

That’s

Not how that works

[arctic talon]

well

ask GW

lol

[hasty coral]

That doesn’t make any sense

Why would they build them like that

They made a fucking automatic star nuker

[arctic talon]

because canopteks are semi disposable

they're not expected to survive battles

[hasty coral]

But can’t make self sustaining robots?

[arctic talon]

just build a new one

They can

other canopteks can help fix them

but canopteks also suffer from programing degredation over time

don't ask how

[vagrant fox]

Precious little makes sense in warhammer it's fine

[arctic talon]

they have plasmacytes for fixing code

and scarabs for repairs

Scarabs and plasmacytes can be made by Spiders

ect.

[hasty coral]

The lack of giant mechs for Necrons make me sad

[arctic talon]

the issue is that for some reason the AI degrades overtime

[arctic talon]

I mean

[hasty coral]

When was the last time that was canon?

Be honest

[arctic talon]

Thye show up In Crusade Pariah Nexus

so uh

2024

lol

Shut up hadron

[hasty coral]

Shit up Hadron

[arctic talon]

same with the tomb stalker

Its pretty fuckin big

[hasty coral]

What is with Necrons and bugs man

I mean

[arctic talon]

they like em

[hasty coral]

I love it

But

[arctic talon]

ig

[hasty coral]

Ok also

[arctic talon]

The real reason is because egyptian mummies

[hasty coral]

Ever a lore explanation for the Egypt shit?

[arctic talon]

no

tomb stalkers are bigger in art then the mini

funnily enough

[hasty coral]

I just

What is the point of the Necrons right now?

I love them to bits but

What do they like DO right now?

[arctic talon]

Their goal depends on the Dynasty

the Silent King is trying to stitch the galaxy back together and reverse bio transference

[hasty coral]

Like yeah they want land back

And wanna be flesh again

[arctic talon]

Sautekh doesn't give a shit about being flesh

[hasty coral]

Why do they wanna be flesh again?

[arctic talon]

and just wants to conquor the galaxy

[hasty coral]

No seriously what’s the obsession with the flesh?

[arctic talon]

The Silent King wants to make 99% of his population not brainless zombies

also body disphorea

[hasty coral]

Oh well

[arctic talon]

is a huge thing for Necrons

[hasty coral]

I guess

Too late for that though

You can’t bring back dead people without warp shit

And well

[arctic talon]

everything is just wrong for Necrons randomly sometimes

[hasty coral]

The C’tan ate that possibility

[arctic talon]

they can't breathe, their flesh is gone, their eyes don't move

ect.

but for some Necrons they don't care

[hasty coral]

Your invincible terminators with Wolverine regen

[arctic talon]

they see being Necrodermis as being good and they just want to conquor the galaxy

[hasty coral]

Literally just build in a breathing simulation

[arctic talon]

not how that works

unfortunately

the engram doesn't identify it that way

and they can't fuck with engrams

[hasty coral]

That’s

[arctic talon]

The engrams are C’tan tech

Not necron stuff

[hasty coral]

?????????

Weren’t they just gas clouds????

Or something?

I don’t remember the C’tan being scientists

[arctic talon]

The C’tan gave Necrons the tech for bio transference after being put in bodies

As for how they came up or learned to do this

We dunno

[hasty coral]

Yeah swirling gases

Energy masses

Tf you mean they know how to make human to ai tech

[arctic talon]

Idfk

[hasty coral]

From WHERE?!

[arctic talon]

In any case the biggest engram nerd doesn’t know how to mess with them

The only thing they know how to do is shackle down and make existing engrams more idiotic

[hasty coral]

You know this is ruining Necrons for me

They are all about insane high tech shit and then

Can’t figure out half of their shit

[arctic talon]

How so

They know most of it

[hasty coral]

And like the other half randomly breaks down

[arctic talon]

What

[hasty coral]

Or decays

[arctic talon]

It’s literally just engram tech

They don’t know

As for how canopteks work Idfk ask GW

They’re self sustaining

[hasty coral]

Except when they aren’t?

[arctic talon]

The tomb complex can run itself with canoptejs forever

[arctic talon]

Battlefield conditions

Is when we see canopteks start suffering issues

Since they can’t get back to tomb complexes for full repairs and such

It’s always spiders/scarabs/plasmacytes doing field repairs

[hasty coral]

Does Necrodermis not fully repair?

[arctic talon]

It can be lost

If that makes sense

[hasty coral]

Oh ok

[arctic talon]

But it’s not an issue since they can make more

[hasty coral]

That makes sense

[arctic talon]

Spiders and scarabs can process raw material to necrodermis

And so can some other things

[hasty coral]

I guess just because it will always return to the old shape doesn’t mean all parts of the old shape will always be together

[arctic talon]

Yeah

The issue is if they like blast off half of some poor Necron wraiths body and then the wraith couldn’t get the necrodermis bits slightly stuck back on

Now you’re missing a ton of necrodermis

[hasty coral]

A big thing though

Can they transfer engrams?

[arctic talon]

Yes

Transferring engrams is no problem

[hasty coral]

Couldn’t you just put a engram casing in a flesh body then?

Or is it like

You still can’t feel it

[arctic talon]

They can’t figure out how to make the engram stuff compatible with flesh bodies fully

It’s like not really being “alive”

If that makes sense

[hasty coral]

It’ll work but it won’t be pretty

Like I can technically have a different blood type then my own in my body for like five seconds

But it won’t work well

[arctic talon]

Yeah

They also need to like

Remove the brain and replace it with storage for engram stuff

[hasty coral]

I mean personally I would just like ADD stuff to my engram if I was missing breathing when it was understood

[arctic talon]

So it’s just like a total mess and it doesn’t really work so it’s a wash

[hasty coral]

I don’t know why I would want pain body again

[arctic talon]

Yeah that’s what szeras is trying

He’s trying to figure out the secrets of engram tech

[hasty coral]

Based psycho

[arctic talon]

And also humans

[hasty coral]

Well he is also

[arctic talon]

Because he hates faith

[hasty coral]

Fucking crazy

[arctic talon]

And the warp

Oh totally

[hasty coral]

Well

About as crazy as

Most racist people

In 40k

[hasty coral]

How much of the warp do the Necrons understand?

I assume

Quite a bit

Because of their anti warp tech

Or is that also C’tan?

[arctic talon]

They’re pretty smart about the warp

Not knowledgeable on the exact mechanics of like psykers and how they work

But they know how to seal it up and such or deal with real space daemon incursions, Ect.

[hasty coral]

Like the warp is literally just the age old question of “what if consciousness had actual power”

Although I guess that’s the perspective from a reader

They don’t have the benefit of omnipresence

[arctic talon]

They don’t really understand how psychic powers and such work exactly since they could never study it properly

But they get the concepts and such behind it

[hasty coral]

Oh

So Szeras

Could do some insane shit

Once he gets it

[arctic talon]

Like they know psyker draws on warp to shoot lightning

[hasty coral]

Oh

Oh no

That bodes very fucking ill

[arctic talon]

But they don’t get the exact science behind how psyker tap into warp and control warp to shoot lightning

Szeras is necron mengle

Except competent

[hasty coral]

I realize how bad that is

Warp nullifying Necrons learning how to weaponize the warp

Ok holy shit then they would actually be unstoppable

[vagrant fox]

That's not fun for a c'tan to watch, they'd probably rather have necrons panic over nonexistent biological receptors screaming they need air and their brains are dying. Rest assured, the reality warping sentient energy gods have made understanding the whole thing very difficult

[arctic talon]

But yeah altaioc has a very big interest

In not letting the Necrons get their shit together

[hasty coral]

Hey I mean Szarekh isn’t like COMPLETELY insane

Just also racist

His uh colleagues are just

All psychopaths/megalomaniacs

[vagrant fox]

Stupid Necrons should have stolen an Eldar reality engine while they still existed

[arctic talon]

There might be one in comorroagh

Tbf

However that would require going to comorroagh

Which fucking sucks

[vagrant fox]

Yeah I wouldn't even for one of those

[hasty coral]

Idk Rogue Trader portrays it as an awful place that is thankfully full of insanely incompetent people

Sorry

Less incompetent

And more

“Egomaniacs to a three stooges level degree”

[arctic talon]

You’re dealing with a shitty backwater of comorroagh in that game

[hasty coral]

It’s insane not a single Dark Elder there could work together

[arctic talon]

It gets cut off by vect when the disjunction hits if you do one without a second thought

[hasty coral]

I killed Marazhai and I have NO regrets

What a douche canoe

[arctic talon]

But yeah the drukhari in rogue trader are like

[vagrant fox]

It was basically comorragh hicksville

[arctic talon]

In a shithole

Yeah that lol

[hasty coral]

Fuck you take this 400 damage crit to your skull dipshit

Oh

[arctic talon]

It’s comorroagh bumfuck nowhere

[hasty coral]

I didn’t realize it was a backwater part

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[hasty coral]

That makes more sense

[arctic talon]

It’s hard to tell

Without knowing comorroagh + drukahri lore well

But the wych arena is a total mess

[hasty coral]

Well it also doesn’t help how braindead overpowered I have gotten in Rogue Trader currently

[arctic talon]

The haemonculi coven is also a total mess and very subservient

And the reaving tempest is uh

[hasty coral]

Idk I’ve just always found Dark Eldar to be

Super meh

[arctic talon]

Maharazi and his Sister being dumb and dumber

Lol

[hasty coral]

Like Eldar are white bread

But Dark Eldar are just chaos but

Less fun

Like

Slaanesh lite

[vagrant fox]

I've used marzipan to get out and then handed him over to the Inquisition three times and it's likely to be a fourth

[hasty coral]

Which they are supposed to be but

[hasty coral]

Why EVER recruit him?

[arctic talon]

Because he’s useful

[hasty coral]

He is the fucking worst

[arctic talon]

He knows his way around the shithole + webway

For better or for worse

[hasty coral]

I almost let Yrliet be executed but didn’t because all the dialogue choices for it sucked

And were totally out of character

For my guy

Like Yrliet DID at least fix the problem

But holy fuck that was really bad

[arctic talon]

Ngl the whole Yirlet thing sucked

[hasty coral]

And had me legit staring at that screen going “ohhhh but she REALLY deserves to die for that”

[arctic talon]

They should have just kept the whole Achilles betraying you thing

That happens if you don’t have Yirlet with you

[hasty coral]

Yeah that

Is weird

[arctic talon]

Yirlet is

[hasty coral]

Out of nowhere

[arctic talon]

Really out of nowhere with that

And it makes her look like a naive idiot

Now tbf we have no clue how young she is

[hasty coral]

But you know she is probably telling the truth since well

[arctic talon]

She might be fresh off the path of awakening 💀

But yeah

[hasty coral]

Achilleas was MAJOR sus

The game doesn’t try to hide it either

[arctic talon]

Achilleas is insanely sussy yeah

I really wish they kept him as the traitor regardless

Tbh

[hasty coral]

What did you do with Yrilet after that?

[arctic talon]

All that build up gets tossed away

[arctic talon]

Me? I had her whipped because she deserves some level of punishment tbh

[hasty coral]

Yeah but that just feels like being a Dark Eldar

Wouldn’t really phase her

[arctic talon]

Well

It’s still a punishment

And it satisfies the other companions

[hasty coral]

I let her live only because the dialogue options weren’t in character for my guy but DAMN

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[hasty coral]

What a fucking dick move

Like Yrilet WTF

[arctic talon]

She’s dumb

[hasty coral]

SERIOUSLY?!

[arctic talon]

💀

Like

[hasty coral]

Dumb aside

BRO

I HELPED YOU

[arctic talon]

Well that wasn’t the deal lol

She made with maharazi

But maharazi is a liar lol

[hasty coral]

With the DARK ELDAR

“DEALS”

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Like I said

[hasty coral]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

Dumb

And pretty OOC lol

But whatever

Curse of act 3 be upon ye

[hasty coral]

It’s a great game but yeah that, the random encounters, and the ship combat are big pain points

[vagrant fox]

It seemed like a desperate trade written somewhat poorly to me

[arctic talon]

Yeah

But still

[hasty coral]

Ship combat isn’t terrible

It’s just

[arctic talon]

Achilles was a better traitor

Imo

[hasty coral]

Poorly scaled

[arctic talon]

It’s built up better

[vagrant fox]

Ship combat was a chore and I wanted a grand cruiser

[hasty coral]

The main combat is great

If really trivial

Like it’s fun but MAN are some to the classes just DUMB

Vanguard with the certain cape from the dlc

Fucking LMAO

What even

[arctic talon]

I love breaking the game

[hasty coral]

I’m going 300 damage because I got to 400 wounds in 3 actions

Truly

One of the classes of all time

Cassia best girl and it’s not even CLOSE

Absolute cinnamon roll

And I love her

And like 80% of her skills are braindead overpowered

[arctic talon]

Navigator brain blast

[hasty coral]

Ulfar is so much fun

God his voice actor KILLS it

[arctic talon]

The ever lost goat

[hasty coral]

Literally every enemy: Oh boy I sure hope I don’t get -40 to all my stats while the player gets +40 to all his on turn one!

Cassia in question:

https://tenor.com/view/transitions-kinemaster-black-guy-suit-tiktok-gif-25279479

One battle zone making enemies take 25% more damage and giving 20% armor to allies

Takes no action point

Fucking lmao

-10% chance to hit and dodge for just being in VISION

Pasqal as well just

Hitting 400 damage with a enemy dropped plasma pistol

[tough haven]

Rogue trader is just rocket tag

[arctic talon]

Well yeah

[tough haven]

Can you or the enemy do the broken combo first

[arctic talon]

It’s a FFG system

[tough haven]

And I love it

[arctic talon]

Those are all rocket tag lol

Imperium maledictum is like one of the most lethal TTRPGs I’ve ever played

[tough haven]

40K in general is supposed to be rocket tag

[arctic talon]

Mfw I get shot by a lasgun

I fucking die

New character time

[tough haven]

Accurate, it would kill you

[arctic talon]

Maledictum really makes you appreciate flak armor

And armor in general

[tough haven]

I do wrath and glory, cause I think it can be a nice mix between lethality and heroic vibe

[arctic talon]

Like carapace can make you live a bolter round

[hasty coral]

Why is my clergyman aristocrat hitting a C’tan shard like it owes him money

[arctic talon]

Flak you’ll just fucking die

Early on

[tough haven]

Because fuck you, the emperor is on my side

[arctic talon]

Maledictum becomes more heroic the higher level you go

Which I like

You start off as some random no name character

You end the campaign as someone who would absolutely be a named character in a book lol

Or dead

[tough haven]

I think I’d like maledictum but I don’t want to learn a new system

[arctic talon]

In a ditch bleeding out from a gut wound lol

[arctic talon]

It’s very similar to dark heresy

[tough haven]

I’m already GM deep in W&G

[arctic talon]

Fair enough lol

But maledictum is fun

And it finally lets some people realize oh that’s why

[hasty coral]

Nomos is

A fucking crazy reveal

[arctic talon]

Nomos is Nomos

[tough haven]

I love writing a campaign for 3 months only for all my friends to decide to ghost me when I ask to play it

[arctic talon]

My beloved child

[tough haven]

I love it

My favorite reveal

[hasty coral]

Theodora where tf were you finding this shit what the FUCK

[tough haven]

I guessed the wrong thing 4 times pre reveal

[arctic talon]

I want Nomos to live a long and fulfilling life

I assumed Nomos was a DAOT AI

and I stuck with that theory lol

[tough haven]

Least odd rogue trader adventure

[arctic talon]

Up until the ||tomb world||

[hasty coral]

If you get the best ending basically the Expanse will live Imperium and Chaos free until the end of 40k

[arctic talon]

And then I thought he was a necron AI

And that was wrong

Baby star god be upon ye

[tough haven]

It’s very well written

[hasty coral]

Basically a C’tan tumor

That grew sentience

[tough haven]

And now I don’t want to ask them again cause I’m scared of bothering them lol

[arctic talon]

Poke them again

[tough haven]

Friend

Friend shaped god

[hasty coral]

He is son

“Go my child”

Parenting saves the day again

Truly a 40k moment of all time

[arctic talon]

Go my child save the Koronus Expanse

(Actually does it with no strings attached)

[tough haven]

Go my child, kill everyone

Nomos of woe be upon ye

[hasty coral]

Separates the expanse from every other threat
Expanse isn’t important enough so neither Chaos or Xenos will care
Did we just win 40k?

[tough haven]

I should

[arctic talon]

The only thing unsevered is the webway but you can get the craftworlders to chill

Unclear about drukhari

[hasty coral]

Uhhh

Vect wouldn’t care

We kill 99% of the ones interested

[arctic talon]

Yeah

But there’s other kabals

Who might notice the reaving tempests hunting grounds are empty now

Then again the reaving tempest is also like a small kabal

[hasty coral]

Yeah until the rest get erased from existence by Nomos

[arctic talon]

Lol

I do like the reaving tempests color scheme a lot

Tbh

[hasty coral]

It’s insane how good the game is

Insanely deep builds

Choices that ACTUALLY matter

[arctic talon]

The really dark turquoise, and bronze work well

[arctic talon]

Mfw a choice I make in act 1 matters in 4

[hasty coral]

So uhhhh haha GW where mechanicus 2 release date?

Haha

GW PLEASE I’M TWEAKING

[arctic talon]

I’m expecting late 2025 early 2026

Tbh

[hasty coral]

BY THE SILENT KING I AM TWEAKNIG

[tough haven]

My favorite 40K game

[arctic talon]

I do hope the ending isn’t entire other side gets slaughtered

For Necrons or mechanicus

[tough haven]

Secret peace ending

[hasty coral]

Assuming we group together against a C’tan shard

[tough haven]

Robot friends forever

[hasty coral]

Or chaos

[arctic talon]

I like how they’re representing multiple forgeworlds

In mechanicus 2

[tough haven]

We all fight eldar because fuck those guys

[arctic talon]

They did it with the first game as well but it was less like

Relevant to playable characters

[hasty coral]

Very early build

Likely

[arctic talon]

Ryza, unknown, Metalica, Stygies VIII and Mars

[arctic talon]

Well yeah, but the core idea is still cool

Mechanicus 1 already had a multi forgeworld roster

I’m glad they’re embracing it further

[hasty coral]

I mean the Necrons find the Mechanicus annoying but a few Necrons have actually mentioned that they have achieved some (relatively) impressive feats

Like they hate to admit it but they have a LOT in common

They LOVE knowledge

[arctic talon]

Tbh if they make the final boss of the game a unleashed C’tan

That would be cool

[hasty coral]

I could see it

[arctic talon]

Tbh the secret boss in 1 was a C’tan

Maybe they’ll bring the sufferer back

[hasty coral]

Oh yeah I forgot about that

[tough haven]

I’m a Stygies or Agripinaa fan for forge worlds

[arctic talon]

It’s cool they got to invent a C’tan

For the game

[arctic talon]

I like Mars the most

[tough haven]

It’s classic

[arctic talon]

The Martian parliament is a total clusterfuck

And it’s great

[tough haven]

I just like the more fringe-y worlds cause that’s where unique and interesting characters come from

[arctic talon]

Tbf stygies isn’t that fringe

They’re one of the major forgeworlds

[tough haven]

I mean like beliefs wise

Cause stygies is the main headquarters of xenarites

[arctic talon]

Fair

[late osprey]

whats the premise of maledictum?

[rose thorn]

Forgot marvel crisis patrol was a thing

[arctic talon]

Lower level members of some organization in the macharian sector, can be telepathica, mechanicus, inqusition, administratum, ministorum, a rogue trader, or a literal criminal syndicate

Oh also

Technically the talons of the emperor LOL

Since one of the options for a Patron/handler is a sister of silence

[late osprey]

so its more of a Generic Universal 40k

as opposed to a specialized one like the other FFGs

[arctic talon]

It has specialized rules for each faction

And they’re working on broadening out the specialized rules

The inqusition expansion was first and I think it’s better then dark heresy

It also deals with the classic “just flash the badge” issue

[late osprey]

is this a new system? i havent heard of it before

i might suggest it instead of DH to my group

[arctic talon]

It’s very new

It came out like late 2023

The inqusition expansion came out very early 2024

[opaque coyote]

So if you were a guardsman and had to kill a standard Necron Warrior

How effective would these small arms be

[tough haven]

worthless

unless you have like 10-20 all on the same warrior

even then they'll just get back up

[opaque coyote]

Sorry kinda got sidetracked.

But yeah true.

Just wonder how effective/ineffective would a:

• Lasgun (lmao)

• Plasma Gun

• Autogun (guy will fucking die)

• Heavy Bolter

• Heavy Stubber

be

basically assume there's like 10 guys with them and it's one warrior

[tough haven]

Plasma gun can melt them after like 3-4 shots, but make sure to double and triple tap

melta guns can vaporize them, and usually makes it tough for them to come back

Bolters work fairly well

just doesnt stop them from coming back

[opaque coyote]

Okay so theortically a single person can "kill" a single necron warrior with a plasma gun

[tough haven]

Yeah, just dont get hit

or else

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-cope-warhammer-meme-shut-up-gif-24598622

[opaque coyote]

I thought of a horror scenario that's basically just

Terminator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYc2jQaM8gM&t=14s

Just a bunch of Guardsmen trying to shoot a Necron Warrior in a building

The Lasguns don't do shit while they get gauss flayed

and only somebody with a plasma gun managed to finally take it down

[arctic talon]

Plasma and melta best, heavy stubber can take them down, lasgun sucks but can do the job with enough time, autogun would literally be worthless due to how necrodermis works

[opaque coyote]

Imagine if a Necron Warrior decided to walk around an underhive

A bunch of gangers find it wandering around

Bumping into shit because the C'Tan couldn't be bothered to give the common Necron more intelligence than a Roomba

Some Gangers think it's a good idea to scrap it for parts

As soon as they get near, it turns around and starts murdering them

I guess if I had to make up an excuse.

The hive world was actually a Necron tomb world and the underhive managed to reach just above their tombs.

[dapper gyro]

Hotshot lasgun can do some damage.

Most heavy stubbers wouldn't work because they usually share ammo with auto guns.

[arctic talon]

heavy stubbers tend to use a bigger caliber

[queen laurel]

yeah if you want ballistic weapons to work you're going to need big calibers

like Bolters or Shootas

[sly ivy]

Damn not even past the opening quote of Scars and it goes so hard

Also they got a fucking Japanese guy to narrate it in dramatic Wise Asian voice

Kinda soyjak looking dude tbh but that’s fine he’ll always be Yesugei 2 me

Soysaucejak

Damn it @arctic talon this is all bait 4 u and ur not biting

[arctic talon]

I'm immune

[queen laurel]

hey wolf DD2 question

what's the deal in Foetor

[arctic talon]

The food became corrupted by the harvest child but no one knew what it was yet, the people had to eat it or they’d starve, first they ate the meat crops, then the mutant animals and then themselves

[queen laurel]

ok so the entire place is just growing cursed meat plants that they eat

and they also raise mutated animals for food

[arctic talon]

Yes

And there’s an eldritch baby creature

Causing it all

[queen laurel]

that has the stupid meat smell attack which i send to the void

[arctic talon]

Voracious and decadent, the landowners and peasants alike descended into an orgy of consumption."
"They emptied their larders, gorging themselves as the world began to crumble."
"First, they ate the rotten flesh of their animals. Then, still hungry, they turned upon themselves."
"They thrill to the succulent flavour that grows up from some nightmare pit far beneath the earth."

This is what the academic has to say about it

[queen laurel]

yeah ugh the place is discusting

[arctic talon]

https://darkestdungeon.wiki.gg/images/2/22/Harvest_wiki_darker.png

Disgusting creature

[queen laurel]

ugh

bloody disgusting this thing

[misty vector]

Wasnt the harvest child the effect and not the cause?

[arctic talon]

It was born after yeah

But imo it’s some evil being

That already existed

And it gained a physical form after the whole flesh plague thing

[queen laurel]

Thank goodness the corruption has seem to have been delegated on just that area

I do not want to meet more plague eaters

[late osprey]

an infantry squad has weapons that can fairly reliably breach even power armor

the problem with space marines is they don't just stand still and let themselves get shot at

necron warriors, meanwhile, do

the necron warriors themselves are kinda shitty in a battlefield context, it's the OTHER necron units that are actually terrifying

there's a reason necron warriors can be run as a swarm (20 dudes instead of 10)

[queen laurel]

yeah the main reason they are so dangerous is that they come in those said swarms and are tough bastards that carry anti material guns

and they are the least dangerous

[late osprey]

they're not intelligent at all, they're slow

they have the worst qualities in an individual soldier

they just refuse to die and their guns are better than everyone else's

[queen laurel]

yeah which is a good thing because Can you imagine having those traits and giving them toughness and having big guns

you'd have yourself a entire new problem

[late osprey]

which means 10v10 that poor infantry squad still isn't gonna do too well, if the infantry squad loses their weapon specialists they're just fucked

[late osprey]

yeah those are the necron elites

the deathmarks, the destroyers

those are the real nightmares

individual warriors have scary guns but that's about it

[queen laurel]

Yeah but it already speaks at the dangers of necrons because their basic infantry is incredibly tough and carries around guns that would tear apart an entire tank on a few shots

yes they are slow and dumb but they aren't alone

[late osprey]

im thinking like a firefight situation right

warriors are going to be quite useless except for clogging up the entire hallway with a swarm of them

far from one-man armies like deathmarks are

[queen laurel]

yeah but to be fair they are also sometimes grouped up with other heavy hitters to take up the hits for them

You just blink and suddenly those warriors are opening up a path for their immortals or other shit

[late osprey]

yes thats exactly how a necron lord wants to use them

make sure the real necron units can do their thing without worry

especially since most 40k factions are unfamiliar with necron tactics and would no doubt get distracted by the warriors immediately because "omg scary gun"

[queen laurel]

yeah hordes of incredibly durable skeletons that have guns that turn you into atoms would definitely make anyone panic

[late osprey]

warriors ARE very good shots, apparently

so they have that going for them

[queen laurel]

well these are necrons

they are more robot than human

so they probably have like basic targeting systems

[late osprey]

right i just mean that even though they're about as intelligent as cattle on vodka, they're very precise in their shots

[queen laurel]

hey if you have a gun that can atomize a wall you would want to hit your target

[late osprey]

what im more interested in is the extent of immortals' intelligence

[queen laurel]

but yeah a smart squad with the weapons can definitely take down a group of of warriors

but one wrong mishap and it can immediately back fire

[late osprey]

cuz it says they they actually do stuff and fight like soldiers, but they're also "incapable of adapting to new modes of warfare" which implies they're not truly human-level yet

[late osprey]

essentially the issue is that in an infantry squad, only like 1 or 2 guardsmen have weapons that can kill warriors, while all 10 warriors can kill guardsmen

so the guardsmen have a much lower tolerance for making mistakes before they're just fucked

[queen laurel]

The problem is they have basically seen a lot of battle and probably has a memory for the event they are currently dealing with

[late osprey]

sustained fire as aforementioned by a lasgun can bring them down but, with the crazy aiming skills of the warriors, that's pragmatically speaking very unlikely

[queen laurel]

They might not be able to find new tactics but there's also a good chance that they have a tactic that's already in that metal dome which is perfect for the situation

[late osprey]

it almost reads like immortals approach warfare like a bunch of If-Then statements

also does make sense in the matter that necron warriors were all civilians before they were necronified

[queen laurel]

seems to be but these guys put necron warriors to shame when it comes to durability

[late osprey]

while the immortals were their actual basic infantry

[queen laurel]

better weapons too

[late osprey]

well i dont know if it says that their armor is necessarily better, or if they just have more aggressive regeneration

on the tabletop they all have a 3+ armor save and there isn't anything in the lore that specifies exactly how each frame is built

[queen laurel]

Yeah but we were going by lore they are significantly tougher than the necron warrior

also i don't really use tabletop stuff for lore

[late osprey]

but it doesnt say that they're significantly tougher

the quality of bodies seems to reflect moreso their mental abilities and details like regen and motor skills

not the toughness of the frame

[queen laurel]

that's what i'm getting from what they are saying with the tougher armor of surviving heavy bolter fire and assault cannons

because i'm sure those things would put down a warrior easier

[late osprey]

the specific line is that the armor makes up for them not being super clever

[late osprey]

do they?

because my reading is that warriors would be resilient to those some weapons also

i could be wrong though and there could be details neglected in the lexicanum that are in books somewhere

but it seems like if an immortal can weather those things there is reason to believe so can necron warriors

which doesn't change the nature of what we were talking about TOO much as guard regiments can still field surprising amounts of plasma and melta firepower when they want to

[queen laurel]

yeah it says that the higher ranking one received better bodies

while the lower ranking ones receive only adequate ones

[late osprey]

"At the time of biotransference, there were not enough resources to allow every member of the Necrontyr species to inhabit strong, intelligent bodies.[1a] As such, the leaders and nobles of Necron society received highly-advanced bodies, physically powerful and capable of retaining every nuance of their personalities.[1d] Their most trusted servants (Such as the Lychguards[1e]), received new bodies of similar quality."

[queen laurel]

So that explains the immortals relatively speaking better regeneration and tougher frame

[late osprey]

i guess toughness would be a reasonable aspect of "strong" and "physically powerful" yeah

[queen laurel]

not more advanced but more advanced enough

After all as we can see an immortal is like capable of speaking and actually thinking

not by much though

while a warrior is completely mute is basically just a robot

[late osprey]

i might imagine its like immortals are mentally stunted and handicapped by their suits, but they're still clearly capable of thought

just very limited

while the poor warriors are hardly people at all anymore

[queen laurel]

yeah if they have better quality bodies they might have retained more of their personality

[late osprey]

now the other main question is if necron warriors are susceptible to the necron mental illnesses

like Destroyer Syndrome or Flayer Syndrome

because both destroyers and flayed ones are clearly more intelligent than warriors

but its said that nerons believe those illnesses are contagious

so are necron warriors like just Carriers in that case?

or does it unlock their minds somehow

[queen laurel]

The Flayer Virus can also infect Canoptek Spyders[7a] and False Necrons.[7b]

it can even apparently take over a construct

[late osprey]

yeah but false necrons are basically AI

the construct bit is interesting though

[queen laurel]

so if it can take over to those thing i'm sure it can take over a necron warrior easy

[late osprey]

yeah but the question is moreso where does the hightened intelligence that flayed ones have actually come from

"That being said, they are not stupid: Flayed Ones have been known to stalk prey and wait for long periods for an exposed weakness, giving them the perfect opportunity to attack."

this is ordinarily far beyond the ability of necron warriors

maybe its not really intelligence so much as instinctual

like we wouldnt consider a tiger to be "smart" in the way a human is even if they're clever with ambushing prey

[queen laurel]

probably has to do with the whole body thing

The virus after all changes their body to be better accommodated with speed and ferocity

probably made it smarter a little bit

[late osprey]

oh if it does then that would explain it

i thought they just crudely swapped out their hands for scissors out of some psychosis

like how destroyers modify themselves out of an urge to be a better killer

"Members of the Destroyer Cult can be found on every tomb world and have been seen among every social class in Necron society.[1b] Destroyer Cultists are outcasts in their own society, with most Necrons believing their madness to be infectious." but where do DESTROYERS get the extra wit?

[queen laurel]

i don't like using the wiki but

The Necron's living metal shape warps into what is recognisable as the corrupt and grotesque form of a Flayed One.

as the virus gets worse it literally morphs them into these things

sharp claws for tearing apart things and more streamlined legs for running down prey

[late osprey]

as long as there's a citation its usually okay, and that answer is better than no answer for sure

pretty hardcore

"They ruthlessly adapt, augment, or expunge any facet of their physical form in order to better their combat capacity. Even the Destroyer's senses are reconfigured to better serve target lock and prediction capability, its neural circuitry repathed to improve response times at the cost of emotions."

hahaha so warriors with Destroyer Syndrome literally just upgrade their own brains

thats gotta piss off the nobles so much

[queen laurel]

seems that high ranking necrons

oh there is one

[late osprey]

normal destroyers are specifically said to be warriors, and its also said that destroyers emerge from every social class

[queen laurel]

the ones that carry giant blades

[late osprey]

well specifically melee destroyers yeah

"Essentially modified Immortals, Deathmarks, or Lychguard who have given up their physical forms in pursuit of destruction, these deranged agents of annihilation see their sole existence as quenching the flames of life.", apparently the hover ones are immortals+

[queen laurel]

yeah it seems that the warriors become Skorpekhs

[late osprey]

crazy how your only choice for a bigger brain as a necron warrior is to become criminally insane one way or the other

[queen laurel]

citizen issue

[late osprey]

simply don't be poor

• necron lord El'on Muskh about to implant his brain chips

[rose thorn]

JESUS CHRIST

. They will be playable as a Regiment of Renown for the Flesh-eater Courts, Nighthaunt and Ossiarch Bonereapers.

[queen laurel]

they look sick

[rose thorn]

Someone really really likes soulblight GL

I unironically liked the hollow king

It’s a bad book but it’s my bad book

[queen laurel]

yeah them skeletons are fun

especially the undead draconith

[rose thorn]

Its sk good

I wanan start soulblight so bad

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah the ghost boys and the fishys are going to be next

[rose thorn]

We’re pretty sure we know night haunt is getting a single character

But we’ve seen nothing for idoneth

[queen laurel]

and khorne and Khadron

i recognise the symbol and the blimp shape but i don't know the third one

[rose thorn]

Flesh eaters

[queen laurel]

those wings are flesh eaters ?

[rose thorn]

They are all the art from battletome covers

[rose thorn]

Yup

[queen laurel]

i see

[rose thorn]

Khrone will either get something huge or will get a single hero

Also ogors refresh is probs gonna be thsi summer

[queen laurel]

khadron will be sick

[rose thorn]

I think it’s a single melee hero

Based off what we’ve seen

Neferata’s vampire wizards dress similarly

I have no clue what it is based off of

[queen laurel]

bloody zoggers have a thing for snakes

[rose thorn]

I have no clue why

Now destruction is the only alliance without one of these super friends regiments of renown

[queen laurel]

imagine an Ironjaw Brute, Kruleboy bolt boy and an ogre butcher, and a Boingrot Bounder in a group

[rose thorn]

that would be pretty funny

How good can a ogor book be,

?

[queen laurel]

I know one thing, if you're good enough you can even make something like an iron jaw brute the compelling character

So pretty good i say

[rocky gale]

A fine Archon

Or Succubus

[rose thorn]

Also I’m glad this model shows us that not all ghosts look like night haunts

Also this is the second time AOS had 2 models with different rules for the same person

And it’s in the same army

Well, never mind stormcasts did it too

Okay third time

2 of them are in soulblight

[rocky gale]

Same person?

Oh didn’t even realise the first guy was another model for the Hollow King

[celest dome]

Necromunda has 2 too iirc

Merneda from the Orlok
And Haera Helmawr

[dusky timber]

fuck erebus

and lorgar (mostly erebus)

CHAT, if you were forced to serve a chaos god (you can not choose chaos undivided), Who would you pick? Disease but granted pain immunity and basic immortality? Strength but blinded by rage? Pleasures beyond your comprehension in exchange for pain? or an endless pit of knowledge only to be tripping on tzeentch's hallucinations and the possiblity to become a bird

[late osprey]

i mean as a Meta Andy tzeentch is the optimal choice

[storm jungle]

Nurgle because im lazy and its probably the "easiest" chaos god to get into recruitment wise lol

[vagrant fox]

I already lift for Khorne, ez pez

honestly if Khorne would get rid of this tennis elbow for me I'd kill a dozen people in return

[queen laurel]

khorne

i die, i will die

if i live i live as a bloody minded berzerker

[outer wave]

Toss up to Nurgle or Tzeentch; the former because he probably doesn't give much of a shit what you do so as long as you're stagnating, and the latter so I can power trip hard

[storm jungle]

Entire reason why I picked Nurgle ngl lol

the only downside is you look ugly as shit but you at least grow to not care about it

[outer wave]

Yeah you're absolutely apathetic to what's happening around and to yourself

If anything you could become like a lil gardener for Nurgle's plants on a Daemon world

[storm jungle]

its not much different from real life

you just got a maggot clogging your brain

[queen laurel]

What do you mean, they looks as handsome as I am

( i am ugly as shit

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

well it also comes with the positives that they are basically the most all rounder of the chaos gods

you have magic

rotting behemoth strength

and making people suffer with diseases

so honestly i might just pick them

[outer wave]

That's pretty true

[celest dome]

If i'm allowed to pick I'm choosing Tzeentch

[odd lotus]

monkey paw moment inbound.

If you were at nurgle's gardens during siege of ultramar.... pretty sure you will not exist anymore

[hallow plover]

Nurgle cares about you ||until he doesn't||

[sharp pollen]

do nurgle cultists care about their dick falling off

[outer wave]

Probably not

[storm jungle]

do you care about your dick falling off when i smash it with a sledgehammer

[storm jungle]

I mean no

the garden just heals back

loyalist wank

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/scared-futurama-snu-snu-fry-gif-16206454

[queen laurel]

to the Kar_Tavi toll these words go

[odd lotus]

but do you heal?

[outer wave]

Yes

We always heal down here.

[storm jungle]

Depends on what kind of follower you are

Chaos is literally bullshit half the time

[odd lotus]

-# GUILLIMAN! GRAB YOUR SWORD HERE!

[storm jungle]

I also dont feel like being a follower has much to do with one convenient event in the entire lore

its like saying "You are Cadian but the Blackstone Fortress is about to crash planetside"

[odd lotus]

eh, sheer comedic effect of you being granted thy wish but in the inconvenient moment

[sharp pollen]

Cadia's over, like and follow

[odd lotus]

otherwise Warhammer is basically d&d but entire world is far more open

[storm jungle]

Yeah but again doesnt have much to do with it.

[storm jungle]

I mean it kinda is.

especially considering the amount and options of homebrew stuff on offer lol

[queen laurel]

side eyes multiple warhammer rpg games

[late osprey]

nurgle's definitely got the lowest membership dues

[sharp pollen]

smash subscribe and ring that Bell of lost souls

[late osprey]

iirc they literally do prefer to recruit from the downtrodden

want to get into a slaanesh cult? $500k donation upfront

nurgle? its ok bro haha you can be a full member lifetime for $3

[queen laurel]

want to get into Khorne?

give yourself a brain concussion and enter a frothing rage

[storm jungle]

Thats very hard to gauge, because aside from khorne every god's followers wax and wane

[outer wave]

I mean, it's not hard to generally join any of the chaos cults, it's just Nurgle's standards are lower

[storm jungle]

we are talking about the entire milky way galaxy as well

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah

his policies are more appealing

[late osprey]

i was mostly just referring to the specific recruiting tactics that IIRC are mentioned

[sharp pollen]

dont shower for 2 days and his whispers will follow you

[storm jungle]

I mean

[late osprey]

nurglite cults most commonly arising among the hopeless, the factory dregs and such

[storm jungle]

theres no "tactic"

its basically absolutely anything

chaos cults are too diverse to really pinpoint towards one method

[queen laurel]

shit slannesh cultists would probably give you a red carpet entrance if you wanted to join

[queen laurel]

yeah perks of having an entire galaxy be shit

[late osprey]

there's always exceptions but there are nevertheless mentioned tendencies, for example how khornate cults have a tendency of arising in butchery worlds

[keen nova]

How strong is the armor on a T'au stealth suit?

[late osprey]

and i could've sworn there was something about a similar trend of pleasure worlds giving rise to slaanesh cults

but as i look back on it it seems like i hallucinated that

[sharp pollen]

is actually makes sence

[queen laurel]

which one?

[storm jungle]

That feels like a weird claim since the other chaos codexes say "it can be from anywhere"

its too inconsistent

(name of the game with 40k tbh)

[late osprey]

they can absolutely be from anywhere

[sharp pollen]

ONE TRILLIOIN LITRES OF GROX BLOOD TO THE BLOOD GOD

[late osprey]

its just that theres still generalities and trends

[keen nova]

The one that gets bonked with a mace at the end here.
https://youtu.be/HD0EoPoBIbQ?si=Bt7-dTvbsBG58THl

[crystal forum]

i dont get why storm bolters are post heresy inventions, what necessitated this in the lore?

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats a super dumb bit

lol

[crystal forum]

is it because storm bolters are associated with the modern terminator armour

[storm jungle]

Yes.

GW does this a lot to differentiate sub-settings/settings

its why they got bolters that literally are stormbolters but look different barrel, magazine or design-wise and shit

[crystal forum]

it's just weird since HH terminators use combi bolters which is just the same effect as a storm bolter

[storm jungle]

Its just what it is tbh

[keen nova]

I know maces are meant to defeat armor, and I don't know if it's a power mace or not.

I don't they are as tough as crisis suits, which are the t'au equivalent to astartes. (In terms of defense lore wise)

[storm jungle]

its just a normal mace

also a trench club ontop of that

[crystal forum]

like why not just say they had storm bolters it's a weird "cannon" stance

[sharp pollen]

kombee booltir)))

[storm jungle]

its not really meant to cave in a battlesuit armor thats like 5-10 times thicker than a normal flak helmet

[late osprey]

combi bolters are said to be more primitive, but there doesnt seem to be any mention of a pressing reason for their upgrade

[storm jungle]

"primitive" is crazy

mfer they are just bolters with bigger mags and two barrels

😭

GW I swear

[crystal forum]

like how chimera didn't exist during HH so they pull leman russ basilisks out of their ass

[sharp pollen]

bolter situation is insane

[storm jungle]

Pretty much

its like uh

Cities of Sigmar / Empire of Man Statetroops

literally the same shit

but cosmetically different because different settings

[queen laurel]

that would be the XV25 Stealth Battlesuit they are pretty much tougher and should have not went down with that

[keen nova]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[late osprey]

ok TO BE FAIR considering the combi bolter is essentially just two boltguns duct-taped together i could see an engineer calling that primitive

compared to the pure elegance of the storm bolter (/s)

[storm jungle]

Yeah but its just the same thing still, i dont trust GW as far as I can throw em with any weapons lore 💀

[crystal forum]

i guess if anything GW at least tries to keep settings consistent for better or worse

[outer wave]

I love that the one tau says "Humans die easily to the killing blow."

Yeah that's called a killing blow, lmao

[queen laurel]

i feel like sticking 2 guns together and somehow making it work is less primitive than making one gun

[late osprey]

yeah it was mentioned the other day how apparently combi bolters jam more which is just patently absurd lmao

[keen nova]

The one that got hit didnhave that upper dome part, would that have made a difference? Weak spot hit? Or is this just a guard wank moment?

[crystal forum]

maybe they mean the combi bolters that have integrated weapons instead of the two duct tapped guns on HH vehicles

[storm jungle]

As with all Tau Battlesuits, XV25 Stealthsuits are constructed out of a lightweight yet strong nano-crystalline alloy called Fio'tak in the Tau Lexicon, which is light, malleable, impact resistant and corrosive resistant, reducing the weight of the Battlesuit whilst also providing excellent protection. Even the armour's shape helps deflect solid projectiles, while a reflective liquid metal coating can reflect medium-grade laser fire. A full medical suite and nutrient reservoirs are also built into XV25 Stealthsuits to help aid them in the field.

its just guard wank moment

[crystal forum]

i can see a plasma combi bolter being more prone to overheating

[storm jungle]

we know this because some behind the scenes leakers from Lost Legion studios made a lot of clear-up comments on reddit

one was GW assigned a "military expert" to them who just kept adding weird wank moments to krieg when this was suppose to be originaly an exodite/tau focus animation

[queen laurel]

yeah these things are built for solo operations so they need to be tougher than your average suit

[celest dome]

You know those pods for the Psyker to feed the golden Throne, what would happen if a Blank was put instead

Nothing ?

[storm jungle]

He'd get overwritten and still burn out

theres way too many psykers at the nexus of the Emperor's power against 1 blank

[crystal forum]

i think my favorite combi bolter is flamer bolter

very fun combo

the one on the leviathan box phobos lieutenant

[late osprey]

some of the combi bolters just look so goofy

a gun stacked on top of another gun

[crystal forum]

https://www.picclickimg.com/wxMAAOSwWaBnc2A0/Warhammer-40k-LEVIATHAN-Space-Marine-Lieutenant.webp

[queen laurel]

^ @keen nova

[late osprey]

the most unwieldy shit you've ever seen

[crystal forum]

just look at that underbarrel flamer

[queen laurel]

these things would have no problem surviving a variety of things

[crystal forum]

so cool

shame that 10th removed unique combi bolter rules

[late osprey]

that particular battlesuit had the flu

thats why it got killed by a shovel

[keen nova]

Okay, so rewatching the clip, (don't know if that unit died or not) they she was probably just knocked out at most

[storm jungle]

They died.

[crystal forum]

tau experienced the star wars episode 6 effect

[storm jungle]

somehow

[queen laurel]

they died

[storm jungle]

I guess they had 1hp left

Baldurs Gate rules

https://tenor.com/view/gmod-ragdoll-video-game-video-game-gif-20573521

[crystal forum]

getting killed by small bears using rocks

[storm jungle]

god

💀

[crystal forum]

empire L

[queen laurel]

my barbarian absolutely body slamming a demon

[keen nova]

That one krieger was just built different I guess.

Which is why I thought it was a power mull

[queen laurel]

yeah built to be guard wank

[storm jungle]

Its just a club

[crystal forum]

that krieg guy is actually alpharius/sly marbo/kaldor draigo/saint celestine

your choice

[outer wave]

Nah he was Kreengo the Krieger

He's the main Krieg head honcho. The one that runs the entire world of Krieg

[crystal forum]

john krieg

[tough haven]

“Aliens die easily from being stabbed in the heart 47 times”

It’s a equally redundant statement

[late osprey]

look the producer's kid REALLY likes death korps ok

[outer wave]

It's not good dialogue in that scene

[crystal forum]

how many people do you think believe kriegers come from the planet vraks

[outer wave]

Many

[keen nova]

Never heard that

[keen nova]

Need more of it

[tough haven]

Hot

[late osprey]

they should've kept it untranslated

iirc thats only a literal translation anyway so it doesn't make any sense to translate it in dialogue

[outer wave]

I dunno if that would affect the meaning though

If it means the same thing, it'd at least be a scene with a cooler conlang being used

[late osprey]

Mont'Ka is a strategy

the specific idea was "gee Mont'Ka is really effective against these guys"

but the way they did it

it'd be like if you translated Que Pasa to "What happens?" in a movie

[outer wave]

I see I see

That's fair and probably would've just been better overall

Actually the whole project from what I remember would've been better without GW meddling

[late osprey]

generally going half-and-half is trite and silly in dialogue but its OK if the literal translation doesn't make sense

like in that case

[outer wave]

Anyway I wish that Krieg exploded when he attempted to whallop the stealth suit

[crystal forum]

would have been even cooler tbh

[outer wave]

Oh absolutely cooler

Like he attempts the hit, it bounces off with such force that his arms rip off and he dies

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/kingdom-come-deliverance-kcd-kcd-2-angry-discord-gif-3991301312257303779

[crystal forum]

nooo, arm rips off then he takes out a krak grenade and blows himself up to kill the tau

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-treasure-island-gif-24900357

[outer wave]

He uses his feet to pull the pin

[crystal forum]

he has his other arm

use thumb to pull pin

[outer wave]

No both his arms got blown off

[crystal forum]

aw

[outer wave]

He has to use his feet

His massive yet dexterious toes

[crystal forum]

if only he could use his teeth

[outer wave]

Nah he has no teeth

[crystal forum]

he has a gas mask

[outer wave]

That too

He grew up without any teeth on Krieg

[crystal forum]

you know, it would be pretty cool if under the mask kriegers are all fucked up like that

like they cut off their noses to have a better fit with their gas mask

[outer wave]

That'd be pretty rad

[keen nova]

There did do that in another book where they fought each other

"Lesser than human" Is the source

[keen nova]

Ehhh, woupd be kinda Grimdrep without an explanation

[storm jungle]

It really wouldnt tbh

these people literally get sent to the shittiest battlefields

none of them are gonna look any kind of pretty under those masks

[keen nova]

Teeth probably because they aren't being used too much but nose would make no sense

[queen laurel]

there's also the whole vat cloning thing

[storm jungle]

I mean the entire face included lol

[keen nova]

Made sense in pirah nexus

Pale, sunken eyes. Like a miner

[outer wave]

Im sure they wouldnt have teeth because they have to eat their way out of the ground to get to the surface of Krieg

They're kinda like orks tbh

[keen nova]

Would have great teeth if I did that

[storm jungle]

What made sense, their noses?

[keen nova]

The following message

[storm jungle]

What message

them looking pale?

[keen nova]

This one

[storm jungle]

I mean again, they arent gonna look pretty either way

[outer wave]

I dunno Dilara, Im sure they all look like gumless K-pop stars

[keen nova]

And they didn't, but that one makes more sense that no noses

[crystal forum]

i just gave you a reason

[keen nova]

That's a very silly explanation, hence, grimderp

[crystal forum]

why

they have no use for their noses

they can't smell anything anyways

[keen nova]

And I have no use for you, I sentence you to...uh....death by communist genestealers!

[crystal forum]

cutting off somebody's nose is like the most cost effective grimdark thing the guard would do instead of making a better gas mask

it's like a munitorum guy saw that some kriegers couldn't use their gas mask because of their large noses and decided that it was better to just get rid of that part of the equation

[keen nova]

Would be more cost effective to not do it at all because it's not necessary, hence grimderp

And Unsanitary

They are already gross sweaty trench dudes as it is.

It's bad enough that that one guy didn’t have eyebrows in PN. ( Your eyes main defense against sweat getting into it btw)

[crystal forum]

these guys wear gas masks literally at all times

that by itself is not necessary and grimdark

[keen nova]

Yeah, they also die on mass with no value to any individual, even more so than other regiments. Sacrifice in horrible meat grinders. Just like ww1, you Don't have to really add anything to that, It's a massive tragedy as it is

They're pretty dehumanized in that way

[crystal forum]

you said it was unsanitary

wearing a gas mask 24/7 is pretty unsanitary

[keen nova]

Having your nose chopped off would certainly make that worse lol

Imagine choking on your own sweat Through your internal nostiles because of some munitorum guy needed to meet the grimderp quota

[crystal forum]

this is not a fun way to do storytelling

[keen nova]

I disagree. Form and function can coexist

[storm jungle]

Average 40k youtube commenter not understanding the setting moment

[keen nova]

I was about to post this against to get a reaction lol

[rigid dune]

Powerlevel wise, where would a sister of battle place in comparison to the current rejects?

[keen nova]

For those who missed it

[storm jungle]

About around a Veteran and a Zealot mixed together