40k-lore-chat

[late osprey]

which is the fun part

[opaque coyote]

I love media that has like

Gods from multiple religions in the same setting

[languid meadow]

They get SMGs

[dusk patrol]

Also relevant TC meme

[late osprey]

Anointed i swear can buy machineguns

[dusk patrol]

Heretic Legion's aesthetic is peak.

[opaque coyote]

Like a part I love about the God of War series is how the Greek Gods, Norse Gods, etc. all exist at the same time

[arctic talon]

yeah Anointed can buy it

[opaque coyote]

So having more than just Hell and Heaven would be interesting

[arctic talon]

I mean

we got trench ghosts

[languid meadow]

I don't even think it's like other myths but like straight up lovecraft shit

[arctic talon]

thats our first "neutral" faction

[dusk patrol]

Its still heaven and hell sorta but you know.

[opaque coyote]

Gaming

Let's go time to play the incomprehensible

[arctic talon]

Church of the metamorphsis is freaky even by hel standards

[opaque coyote]

[languid meadow]

like beings who want to stay away from the shit are now pissed they got disturbed by gods bastards

[opaque coyote]

Lmaooo

[late osprey]

"You know, 40k is all about perspective. Every side is really just the same as each other, nobody's really worse" - Brother Blood-Strangle, of the Orphan-Eaters Legion M.41

[opaque coyote]

I can't fucking imagine it

Like

[arctic talon]

this was a Nun

and this was a priest

[opaque coyote]

...bro how the fuck does it even work.

How does it even eat??

[stuck arrow]

Are those beelzebubs faction or something. I know there is an insecty looking faction

[arctic talon]

nah

[late osprey]

it probably eats babies or something horrific

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that is...

Ew

I love it but also ew

[arctic talon]

Church of the Metamorphsis

[languid meadow]

I can't wait for the Varangian Guards to be added

[arctic talon]

oh this is my favorite

[opaque coyote]

Bride themed?

[arctic talon]

Sister of the Transcendent Chrysalid. This order of metamorphic nuns watches over the gestating gods.

[plush mason]

its a demon, i dont think it needs to eat normal food anymore

[dusk patrol]

mfw

[arctic talon]

Real

[stuck arrow]

These artists are carrying Trench Crusade so hard

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but like

Even if it eats babies how tf does it insert it into itself

[opaque coyote]

These artists are fire

[dusk patrol]

He's literally one of the core owners and creators

[arctic talon]

the rules are good tbh

[stuck arrow]

The lore is no slouch but gatdamn

[arctic talon]

Hopefully it'll grow as big as Infinity

at least

[languid meadow]

Can't wait until they add the rest of the layers of hell (long time from now) since I wanna see sloth and wrath as models/art

[dusk patrol]

They're very experienced in the field so I expect they'll carve out their niche.

[opaque coyote]

Maybe I should consider DMing a game.

Ignore the fact that I have barely even played DnD

And all the campaigns I've been in have fallen apart

[plush mason]

i wonder what it will be like in 10 years

[stuck arrow]

I just want the art books

[arctic talon]

la creatura

[opaque coyote]

Doctor?

[languid meadow]

PRAWN

[late osprey]

on one-hand, squad-combat games have consistently been better than mass-combat games on tabletop

on the other

[opaque coyote]

It gives me like medical vibes

[dusk patrol]

Beginning of the metamorphis.

[late osprey]

WW1 seems to be the weirdest possible setup for a small-unit tactical game

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-its-as-shrimple-as-that-not-so-shrimple-elden-ring-elden-ring-meme-gif-26027466

[arctic talon]

Yeah its odd

[arctic talon]

the sniper shrimp

[opaque coyote]

...yeah

Yeah no

How tf is the bitch still alive

[late osprey]

the lore: trillions of soldiers died overnight in the offensive due to heretic mega-tank monsters
the game: twelve angry hobos shank three angry hobos and their pet mutant over a single gun

[opaque coyote]

Scalping usually kills people for a reason

[stuck arrow]

But trenches were awful and claustrophobic

[late osprey]

actually the lore does explain that

but still

[languid meadow]

Infernal magic

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it makes sense considering a lot of soldiers were separated into small squads.

And trenches are severely

Severely

[dusk patrol]

Such is the power of our Mysterious Lord!

[opaque coyote]

Limiting in terms of mass spread invadion

[late osprey]

well the lore is specifically that the game is set in a weird twilight-era of the fighting where nobody's doing anything because everyone's so wounded and depleted

[opaque coyote]

I think the worst part is that she's literally smiling in the pic

[arctic talon]

Allah wills me to use these explosives on the infidels

[dusk patrol]

Now if you behave well you may spend time with a temple prostitute.

[late osprey]

so its now up to just random lieutenants and their teams of psychotics to do random crap in the wastelands

[stuck arrow]

What does "no man's land" even look like in trench Crusade

[arctic talon]

not good

There's uh

ghosts

[dusk patrol]

Lives up to its name.

[opaque coyote]

And it isn't like an analog horror ahh type smile but she's 100% smiling which is

[dusk patrol]

Thats for sure.

[arctic talon]

The trench ghosts are the main occupant of No Mans Land

and they just fucking

kill people

[plush mason]

yeah the mass waves they did in ww1 irl where just large numbers of small squads attack specific areas of the trench line at the same time

[opaque coyote]

Infinitely terrifying because she seems like she's in pleasure

[languid meadow]

Holy shit I remembered a funny lore tidbit, where there are tablets in hell that sorcerers find and if they aren't worth they get melted or something, but even if you are worthy reading from it could cause a nuclear level explosion

[opaque coyote]

"oooh what's this rock?"

"...haha gottem you'll all die now. What does that mean-"

[arctic talon]

I like the artillery shells that are god speaking backwards

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

[arctic talon]

and fuck up reality

[arctic talon]

are

are those night haunt minis???

LOL

thats a smart kitbash

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I love it.

[stuck arrow]

It's just God's version of "Ligma"

[languid meadow]

Dw guys he's totally not a demon

[opaque coyote]

Bro looks more like he accidentally fumbled the demon core

[languid meadow]

powered by green

[late osprey]

the heretics are a very musical faction

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-core-demon-core-incident-plutonium-gif-9056977038245353091

[stuck arrow]

And wtf exact is that things classification? Also, chaos marine in the back

[dusk patrol]

I think this is official art?

[late osprey]

also artillery witches being mercenaries is funny

what do they even pay the artillery witches?

[arctic talon]

This is

[arctic talon]

Glory™️

Jokes aside I have 0 fucking clue

why they Chose "Glory" as the meta currency

[dusk patrol]

Love of the game.

[arctic talon]

like I'm buying mercenaries with this LOL

[languid meadow]

Auxiliary Sorcerer, all units on earth can't be demonic so they these guys have mortal blood

[late osprey]

ok that kinda makes sense in the idea that your warband's gotten some reputation to bring some real heavy-hitters over

but still like

artillery witches are mute LOL

[arctic talon]

Yeah

I'm really not sure wtf they're doing with it LOL

[languid meadow]

also that's a hell knight in the background which are Praetors shoved into suits of armor as punishment

[arctic talon]

The thing is Glory is "spent"

like an actual currency

so is Glory like

an actual physical fucking piece of money????

[stuck arrow]

"There's a human....-vaguely gestures- somewhere in there"

[plush mason]

the fact the artillery witches are literally just war mages that throw actual bombs is just great

[stuck arrow]

The ultimate "woe be upon ye"

[languid meadow]

These guys

[dusk patrol]

I really like all the different takes on Trench Ghosts.

[stuck arrow]

Still not a demon I guess btw

[late osprey]

what do you guys think this guy spends his ducats on?

[plush mason]

"woe 500 megaton bomb be upon ye" because fuck you and every one near your general location

[arctic talon]

He buys blood bags? idfk

[dusky scroll]

The fact that Bobby G got revived with help of Eldar/s, did it not cause any frowned eye brows in the imperium?

[late osprey]

LOL

[arctic talon]

it did but WTF were they gona do about it

it also isn't wildly known

[late osprey]

inflation's so high, even the mosquitos gotta work

[arctic talon]

that an Eldar did it

[dusky scroll]

Or are the people familiar with the idea of diplomacy with Xenos?

[stuck arrow]

What are they gonna do? Tell him to go back to sleep?

[plush mason]

him just being back made like half the leadership of the imperium shit a brick

[arctic talon]

Mammons stealing too much fuckin gold, did you see how much a fresh corpse costs at hereticmart

[languid meadow]

yeah they are offspring of demons and predator animals like hyenas or jackals so they technically have mortal blood

Mammon's whole lore is hilarious bro is living it up in Africa trying to loot gold and artifacts

[dusky scroll]

Other than that incident, do Imperium conduct any form of diplomacy with others?

[stuck arrow]

Relatable

[late osprey]

the golgathan financial markets have been in a downturn ever since they stopped bombing new antioch i tell you

at this rate, corpse derivatives will be completely unprofitable

[arctic talon]

when necessary yeah

[languid meadow]

System governors do, like with craftworlds or tau, Inquisitors do as well.

[stuck arrow]

"Somebody get me the trades section - rips the entire flesh of some random follower to scry the market in blood -"

[plush mason]

imperium diplomacy is normally "if you are human we own you by divine right, if you arent then we kill for the sin of existing at our earliest convenance"

[late osprey]

infernal daytrading has gotta be INSANE with all the prophecy going on

[languid meadow]

A faction I really wanna see get expanded upon is the Order of the Dragon

[opaque coyote]

PoV, you went on twitter

[plush mason]

X, let the blue bird rest

its been dead

[arctic talon]

HERETIC LEGION AMMO STOCKS UP 14%

[dusky scroll]

Those system governors don't get chucked in Penal legion afterwards?

[arctic talon]

I mean

who's gona tell on them

[late osprey]

Mammon & Midas just fired 666 of their gore-analysts after that

[languid meadow]

In reality it's usually just

https://tenor.com/view/dennis-nedry-jurassic-park-wayne-knight-gif-24822846

[plush mason]

yeah the imperium normally leaves worlds to their own devises unless they miss a tithe

and even then it could take a few missed shipments for them to notice/care enough to go looking

[dusk patrol]

Even then it can take awhile to notice

Damn

I thought of it first

[plush mason]

lmao

[arctic talon]

it is what it is

[plush mason]

the utter scale of the imperium is insane to try and think about, when you are dealing with an empire literally spanning most of the galaxy trillions of trillions of tons of goods going missing isnt even a rounding error

[late osprey]

its also horrifically corrupt

[stuck arrow]

It's just several abominations in front of flesh monitors like

https://tenor.com/view/ponke-ponkesol-solana-memecoin-crypto-gif-15209153178416243960

[late osprey]

you think just ANYONE can read the entrails of the sacrificed?

it requires well-trained professionals from Lucifer University

[languid meadow]

Oh yeah forgot about the church space program

[late osprey]

yeah, i'd be the pope's top astronaut

[languid meadow]

and the moving fortress of Britannia

[late osprey]

small step for christ, one giant leap for christendom

[stuck arrow]

"We gotta beat Satan to the moon"

[late osprey]

people were NOT happy when Gehenna-1 was sent up there

[late osprey]

apparently heretic piracy is a BIG deal in trench crusade

which makes me imagine Blackbeard was probably a satanist in TC's timeline

[arctic talon]

they have submarines

[languid meadow]

yeah they rushed the naval focus tree

basically all but the mediterranean sea is dominated by them

Also I think the fortress of Britannia is just a massive floating fortress that protects England

[late osprey]

this looks metal as fuck

[languid meadow]

Mortal engines type shit

[arctic talon]

I want this on the tabletop now

[late osprey]

there's more naval/marine mentions than i would have expected honestly

[languid meadow]

I think they have rules in 1.6?

but all the models I've seen are like fan made sculpts

[late osprey]

actually

you know what NA is especially missing

artillery

[languid meadow]

They do

[late osprey]

the irony that they dont have any is quite astounding

like obviously the guns themselves wouldn't work for obvious reasons

but they dont have like radio-guys to call them in or anything

[stuck arrow]

The libs took'em /s

[languid meadow]

I mean the most popular art for NA has some

[late osprey]

the damn artillery witches took all the bombs

[late osprey]

yeah for sure, i just mean on the tabletop

you'd think they'd have a specific Radioguy who can call in a bombardment or something

maybe next patch

[stuck arrow]

Thanks again, Obama

[stuck arrow]

I just noticed the huge fuck off tank in the background

[late osprey]

a french/english subfaction that's even MORE shooty than baseline NA would be awesome

french artillery focus

"God is on the side with the most artillery" type

not allowed to take stormtroopers or something as their restriction

[stuck arrow]

"In ammunition we trust"

[late osprey]

"Praise the Lord and pass the ammo."

[stuck arrow]

Pretty sure someone has said that at the Thanksgiving that just passed.

[late osprey]

if the U.S. is actually a thing in TC, having them as a marine subfaction to play against heretic pirates would be cool too

[languid meadow]

I mean colonization never happened and I don't think we know what's going on in the new world

some people think that there's a hybrid culture of Norse and First Nations but in reality it's all just fan speculation

[opaque coyote]

Native American Hell Vikings with guns...

Actually Wendigos would be sick

[languid meadow]

Also I don't think we know anything about Scandinavia as well and since the Swedish empire was formed in the 17th century it prob didn't form here

So I wonder what it looks like now

[late osprey]

well if the TC writers have the same axe to grind against the poor scandinavians as GW's

they're probably a heretic arch-bastion of pure evil

[stuck arrow]

I hope they get some great writers if they expand into books

[late osprey]

when i first started reading into it i thought it was an entirely localized war

so like life was perfectly normal in china

[languid meadow]

I think the farthest we know is like northern Russia with Novgorod and the weird things going on up there

also Ethiopia

[dusk patrol]

I think there’s vampires and shit in Eastern Europe cause of course there are

[languid meadow]

oh yeah Finland was mentioned to be fighting ice demons iirc

[languid meadow]

1573: Sacred Order of the Dragon halts the heretic advance after the destruction of Byzantium. A million heretics impaled in the hills of Wallachia.

Vlad was doing something but idk if they'll turn him into a vampire or his myth into real units

Oh yeah and the artist Mike Franchina did a sketch for the Polish-Lithuania Commonwealth in which he drew vampire Hussars

[dusk patrol]

Vlad as a even more crazy version of himself as a communicant or something would be sick

[languid meadow]

Wait I think Vlad is actually a vampire hold on

[dusk patrol]

I swear there was something like that

[languid meadow]

From their discord

[dusk patrol]

That’s exactly what I was thinking, would be so sick

[languid meadow]

If Eastern Europe and the PL Commonwealth are controlled by Vlad I might fuck with them more than New Antioch

[green loom]

Halo device Vlad

[languid meadow]

Because vampire winged hussars is cool asf

[green loom]

??? What's Vlad got to do with the poles lol

[languid meadow]

Considering kings of the polish Lithuania commonwealth are elected and usually outsiders, and they have vampire hussars it could be assumed Vlad has influence there in some capacity.

[green loom]

He'd likely have influence on the border he's fighting at

I'd expect at most a Romanian/Wallachian faction based on his stuff

[languid meadow]

We have a sub-faction just don't know a whole lot about it

[crystal forum]

doctor who is not scratching my itch

does anybody have any good shows

just name literally anything

[languid meadow]

What we do in the shadows is pretty nice

[dusk patrol]

Severance

[crystal forum]

i ALREADY watched

all the episodes

[crystal forum]

already watched

come on dont recommend me another show im waiting on

[dusk patrol]

Heels

[languid meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277023294108864619/1340154519270592512/Ckk9HBBTY9tkSAz3.mp4?ex=67b153a8&is=67b00228&hm=e9f263579442c37445ccc02d6ba76bbe62b1a990c23c77fc4d969aa8f7363251& well idk then

[crystal forum]

this seems interesting

[dusk patrol]

It starts a little slow but it gets better

[lofty mason]

Do human in the Imperium speak English, or it just that they don't want to invent a whole new language so they just use English to make modern audiences to feel "relatable"?

I reckon that 38,000 years in the future will have languages incomprehensable to us.

Like, English a thousand years ago sounded very different from modern English.

[dusk patrol]

Low Gothic is apparently a weird mix of Chinese and English, High Gothic is close to Latin

But there’s a ton of dialects of low gothic

So, basically

[arctic talon]

Low gothic is a total clusterfuck, High Gothic is weird

[sly ivy]

watching return 2 cadia why is the environment quality worse than darktide in game lmao

[sacred ginkgo]

Because Darktide environments are really good

[sly ivy]

... ok this isn't actually so bad even if the character animation is jank

[spare osprey]

vice principals?

[opaque coyote]

Does the Imperium have like

auto translators?

Like there are so many variations of low gothic probably

Or even other languages

That there should be sci-fi auto translators

[dusk patrol]

I can’t recall examples

Generally low gothic seems to remain “pure” enough

But there’s still local languages

[coarse pumice]

High gothic isn't similar to Latin, but latin is used for our sake to show how people in universe understand it

[arctic talon]

The new high gothic stuff GW released is Latin esque

For uh

The SoB thing

[coarse pumice]

It's a translation

[arctic talon]

It’s apparently in universe

No

Not with how they worded it

Which I find a bit disappointing personally

[coarse pumice]

Oh a retcon then?

[arctic talon]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/s48clzhx/praise-the-emperor-with-the-first-ever-official-imperial-hymn/

[coarse pumice]

[arctic talon]

Seems like it

It’s not exactly Latin

But it does steal some stuff from it

It’s weird

It’s still a weird semi colang thing

But it’s got chunks of identifiable Latin in it

[queen laurel]

i was meaning to ask

[coarse pumice]

Originally it was meant to be kind of like this https://youtu.be/JkcbeMnLc40?si=QyOWnrZA2GmIsbOR

[queen laurel]

is the faith powers of the sisters the most apparent belief power in the imperium

[coarse pumice]

Though high was from more technical manuals than alpha slang

[arctic talon]

Tbh we haven’t had an official definition for high gothic in ages

It is intresting what GW came up with

[arctic talon]

Yes

It’s also tied the warp

Sort of not really

GW is weird about it

[queen laurel]

yeah in think basically if a race has a sufficient enough soul power if enough believe it can become real

in 40k

is literally it

[dusk patrol]

As Elite said it is and it always seemed to be some sorta bastardized space Latin.

That’s the first case I can recall of them actually portraying it entirely but the bastardized Latin element was always there, while low gothic was meant to be more standard English and other things mixed in

[coarse pumice]

It used to be done that way for our benefit (so we get the gravitas of it) rather than being what they would actually have

Based on the language used in tech manuals

Language would also shift quite a bit, especially if they had separating events and lower literacy considering how much English has changed in the past 1000 years, albeit it's been more stuck for the last 400 or so

So maybe it could remain, though I think the age of strife and other catastrophic events may cause some more drift

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I always thought that some Guardsmen would switch back to their local language while in a panic

Like some planets would obviously keep their local language

Or at least try to

While also putting an importance in learning low Gothic

Although some planets like Krieg probably lost their original language because of the

The nukes

Wouldn't be surprised if Catachan developed their own local language though due to how long they were isolated

Like I think it's implied that they were there since before the Age of Strife

[late osprey]

there's something of the sort in the rogue trader RPG that the inquisition apparently has

[storm jungle]

its because all the environment is based on scenery miniatures

the walls, the props, the ground etc, its why everything looks weirdly like toys/not properly sized lol

[dusk patrol]

Also it’s a video game with a much longer development time and budget vs a short probably made by a fairly small group for much less.

[storm jungle]

ıt was probably asked to look like that tbh

but also yeah GW penny pinches budget a lot so theres that too lol

[dusk patrol]

I don’t think it looks terrible but they’re not really comparable things, with Darktide’s budget and team behind it I’d expect it would look as good as it does, especially since the levels are meant to be replayed for hours and hours vs a short animation

[storm jungle]

It still looks pretty bad, theres not really an argument to be made considering the episode itself is also just not good so everything kinda sticks out.

[dusk patrol]

You don’t like anything anyways smh

[storm jungle]

LITERALLY NOBODY LIKED THAT EPISODE BRUH

I think what annoyed me the most is why waste a CGI team's time with something like this instead of sticking to the 2D method of Hammer & Bolter too, its so weird

i guess it was a GW demand for who knows why

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-buck-ah-well-well-oh-well-what-are-you-gonna-do-gif-16202450108114007566

[queen laurel]

weren't they improving the 2d animation

back in the day

[storm jungle]

I mean I dunno, they never share any news on this stuff unless its scripted news posts.

[queen laurel]

still though on having the 2d artstyle for the show

so it was a bit weird they used the 3d for the cadia episode

[storm jungle]

it does look like shit when its animated but the heavy shaded style is super cool.

[storm jungle]

Yeah beats me honestly

[queen laurel]

bro they already committed an entire season on the 2D style why switch up now

i will never get GW

[dusk patrol]

I think they’re just trying it out, it’s been good for tithes and Pariah Nexus

[storm jungle]

Yeah i just wish it was for a better episode.

[dusk patrol]

I’d agreed the newer episode wasn’t as good as those but it wasn’t awful, they’re just trying to do more 3D stuff

[storm jungle]

it was "fine"

it kinda feels like

[dusk patrol]

I personally hate the former hammer and bolter style

[storm jungle]

they came up with the kasr asteroid idea and just kinda didnt do really anything with it

[dusk patrol]

Some episodes worked better don’t get me wrong

But the CGI animated stuff ugh

Doesn’t do it for me

[storm jungle]

you can tell they basically got no budget

which sucks lmao

PNG moving across the screen ahh

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-dive-money-rich-spongebob-gif-10015747

Syama meanwhile

[queen laurel]

how much money does games workshop make anyway

[dusk patrol]

A lot, but these animations aren’t a primary focus for them

[queen laurel]

classic

[dusk patrol]

Black Library for example is, a none factor for their annual revenue

[storm jungle]

A lot, they just dont really wanna focus on animations

[dusk patrol]

But they get that the more feeds a lot into the model business and they’ve been branching out

[storm jungle]

they only pour money into them when its the CGI stuff

[queen laurel]

yeah to be fair their money is on those cocaine plastic

[storm jungle]

which they do rarely

[dusk patrol]

Obviously with the Amazon deal and stuff

[storm jungle]

(because CGI animations cost A LOT)

[dusk patrol]

I would be curious how much these shorts cost, they’ve definitely upped the budget it seems

I think the early stuff was testing

[queen laurel]

Honestly I just hope that they put in more effort than their other departments but well that's the thing they are a miniature war game company first an entertainment fictional setting second

[dusk patrol]

I know the investor call they said WH+ has been a big success in paying for it self

And the factor of how much it draws people in to buy other things which isn’t as easy to gauge

But yeah, the books and shorts and even the games are there to get people into the universe, and they don’t even need that many to get invested to benefit hugely from it. Plus they’re obviously making money off the licensing

It’s kind wild they’re putting as much effort as they are into these animations tbh

[storm jungle]

GW only puts effort into stuff when they know its gonna be great/people will love it ala Astartes, New Edition cinematics etc.

Otherwise theres a reason most of their animations 80% just suck.

[dusk patrol]

They’re still in the early stages of this even panning out, and they’re testing stuff a lot.

They proved there was enough of an interest these past years and it ended up being a success

[queen laurel]

welp at least the main media consume about them being the written lore is interesting enough

even though sometimes it can be a bit funny

[dusk patrol]

Now they’re seeing how much they’re willing to spend as more people are drawn in from outside sources

[queen laurel]

eldar needing mining companies to get magical magic bone

[dusk patrol]

Space Marien 2 was massive for getting people into the hobby

[queen laurel]

but it's coherent enough most of the time that it doesn't really matter

[dusk patrol]

The Amazon deal is almost certainly gonna be bigger if the shows are even halfway decent.

I’m really curious if Amazon is gonna be doing animated stuff for 40k itself, and how that would work.

[queen laurel]

Considering that a good chunk of their animated shows or animated adaptations pan out at least good enough or pretty good

i'm cautiously optimistic

hell throw in a loophole oh on amazon show set in a warhammer tabletop game

rogue trader, soulbound

funky options you got

[dusk patrol]

It feels like it’ll be at least fun, they got a pretty decent track record and it seems they’re making sure to get a team who care about the universe

[queen laurel]

a death watch show an only war show

bro they can get a lot of stories off of just the tabletop role playing games

soulbound party traveling the mortal realms and doing good stuff or whatever

a rogue trader dealing with a dilemma with responsibility resting on his shoulder worth multiple worlds or something

there are so many possibilities

[dusk patrol]

Very open ended

I’m curious how much dialogue Astartes 2 will have, part of what worked so well with the first is how much it told a story without dialogue

[sacred ginkgo]

Late, but yes, an example is the Elucidator given to Rogue Trader Von Valancius by Heinrix

[opaque coyote]

Probably will try to keep it as silent as possible

But I wouldn't be surprised if there's a couple of sentences or so

Either that or have the enemies give dialogue while the SMs are completely silent

I mean the fact that they fight Orks means that there will be a bit

[dusk patrol]

None of the stuff in the trailer is gonna be the main focus, so we’ll see what the main antagonist is

[opaque coyote]

True. Apparently the weird orbs are from a Xenos race or something

Although I forgot whether they're original

[celest dome]

They were original, but based on older minor Xenos iirc

So might be either now

[dusk patrol]

Not clear if they're connected to something else now but yeah they were original to the creator.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah according to the creator in an AMA, the tentacles are actually the Xenos

And the orbs were for their own protection

Apparently it attempted warp travel but then got attacked by warp entities

Causing the Marine to be stranded because it "let go"

Although I wonder whether the traitors in the ship were Chaos trying to also break into the orbs

Or being manipulated by the Xenos themselves

[storm jungle]

Manipulated pretty sure

chaos doesnt look that orderly or clean

[sharp pollen]

all chaos guys are LoL players

[celest dome]

hey

I do not

[sharp pollen]

i mean chaos cultists and marines dont look orderly or clean

not talking about actual ppl who like chaos

[celest dome]

Doesn't mean we play LoL

[sharp pollen]

my Blackstone Fortress of a joke did not hit your Cadia head

[queen laurel]

damn bro out here insulting nurgle's disgustingness comparing it to a lol player

[tough haven]

Now this is the dialogue I’m looking for

https://youtube.com/shorts/gTUdMkdlwqc?si=aviQfow0RsXEK1Vu

I genuinely went when I heard my brawler say “pie rats”

[rose thorn]

Oh fr? I’d thought there would have been more

[sly ivy]

Yeah I figured… recognized some of the scenery lol

Personally seems like a really stupid choice given that their other animations are stylized

And so is the art in the codices!!!

Like come on

[winter vessel]

Trench Crusade. learning about this Heretic unit called the "Chorister". these crackheads perform heavy ritualistic self mutilation if it means pleasing the Devil. Most of them die in the process, but some are brought back from the dead, and carry their severed heads singing hymns of praise to Luci.

but all i can think of Smitty Werbenjägermanjensen from Spongebob

[outer wave]

Considering that they attempt to do self termination, which is a sin in the eyes of God, I would imagine that there are very few that are rejected for going through the act.

[winter vessel]

yeah, though most are sent to the Eternal Lake of Fire, there is still a good number of them who come back from the dead after 9 days.

these guys are meant to break morale of the Faithful's soldiers, trudging across the battlefield as they sing

those who hear it and lack a strong will are forever binded on their beds, their sanity lost to the unholy choir ringing in their ears

so its most likely another Taylor Swift song that revolves around her next boyfriend

[outer wave]

I do like that they expanded the method of death for Choristers because now you could have someone that died by drowning or self-immolation

I think it used to be implied that it was only those that did self decapitation

[winter vessel]

yeah. it'd suck if after they come back from the dead, they accidentally grabbed someone else's head

[outer wave]

Lmao, Im sure they can tell which is their head

[winter vessel]

Or it fell in one of those runoff artillery shell holes and now they got to find which one specifically it’s in

[outer wave]

That'd be a fun way to fuck a Chorister over

Taking the head and throwing it away

Drop kicking it into a faraway ditch

[winter vessel]

Heretic Priest: "alright, so Jimmy is on track to resurrect tomorrow, be sure to place his head next to the body"
Death Commando: "yeah sure." waives goodbye "
okay Artillery Witch, show me where the cesspool is"
Artillery Witch: (＾▽＾)

[outer wave]

I wouldnt be surprised if this was commonplace in Hell

[outer wave]

You know, I sort of wish 40k leaned more into the fungal aspect of orks at times

It could show off some genuinely cool and interesting stuff about how the stuff works and could make for some rad models too (even if they're not the traditionally diesel punk theme that we know and love)

[raven stone]

You want to know the real fungal nightmare?

Do you know that under appropriate circumstances

Spores can grow in human ears or lungs

I will leave it at that.

[gray umbra]

And yasuo players

[outer wave]

EXACTLY! That shit would be rad to see as a model! Though I dont think those spores can grow in a human's lungs, I asked this chat before about that

[arctic talon]

Dominion Genesis

Also they can

they just uh

get weird

[outer wave]

Oh?

[raven stone]

Ah ok, and yea, I think the exact circumstance is if (for whatever weird reason) the lungs were excessively dry (from, say, antibiotics or something)
But again, truly niche situation

[arctic talon]

The survivors on board a ship are cultivating Ork Spores/mushrooms to eat

they're heavily mutated

due to the spore exposure

and their bodies basicially have Orkoid stuff growing in them

[raven stone]

Human-OrkSpore hybrid. Now that’s something.

[outer wave]

That is cool

[arctic talon]

they are peacful + rational initally

but eventually the Mechanicus characters do some stuff and have to kill their way out of the situation

but we now know that enough exposure/consumption of Orkoid stuff can cause mutation

[raven stone]

(I mean, not that the bog standard Imperials would have treated them any differently)

[arctic talon]

and also that ork spores can grow in people but like

they don't split into orks

[outer wave]

They split into smaller squig-esque organisms I assume

[arctic talon]

The original plan was to just leave them alone since they're doing literally nothing and they don't want to waste time

Whatever was going on with them biologically is neat

[raven stone]

Well at least it’s good to know there won’t be Ork ear-busters

[arctic talon]

its unclear if the Ork spores adapted to be symbiotic

or if its natural that ork spores can just

[raven stone]

Ok THAT is definitely Ad Mech being different from bog standard Imperials lol

[arctic talon]

do that

[arctic talon]

one of the more dogmatic tech priests keeps on talking about how they need to get samples then burn it all

but the rest just ignore him because they're more concered with the data on the ship + archeotech

[raven stone]

That is actually very on point for Ad Mech characterisation.

[queen laurel]

yeah the old ones made them eat fellow fungus

once they plopped down on the planet they can basically grow their own food source

and of course they also photosynthesize

[arctic talon]

I mean symbiotic with human biology

lol

[raven stone]

I would imagine, then, it is remotely feasible any non-Orks or non-Tyranids that ingests Ork Spores are “recruited” into the Ork Latent psyche even if actual Orks will, in fact, off them.

[arctic talon]

or I guess whatever the fuck they had mutated into due to radiation exposure and ork spore exposure

the clear thing is that the mutants don't act like Orks

they act like Imperials

[outer wave]

Fungus cannot photosynthesize though; thats likely from algae that is possibly part of the orkoid fungus due to the green color

[arctic talon]

or rather

really really really regressed imperials

[raven stone]

fascinating

So Ork Spores alone do not have a “Waaghfield” warp effect (but well, obviously, eating bad food is bad for brains overall, so the regression can be said to be a natural side effect of eating bad stuff)

Do said mutants give off spores or no?

I would imagine it does.

But still.

[queen laurel]

yeah they are part animal fungus and plant

[arctic talon]

The mutants did when dying

[queen laurel]

The old ones basically biologically stitch them together

[outer wave]

Do they act similarly to crypt ghouls where they're just devolved humans rummaging around eating whatever?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

they do still have order and such

[outer wave]

Ooh very neat

[arctic talon]

the descedents of the task masters were still in charge

they were also using void suits + other armor + weapons

once they started fighting

[outer wave]

Interesting

[queen laurel]

yeah it's why they are so efficient at surviving it's because they are made to be that way with multiple life combinations

[raven stone]

Orkoid Fungus infestation “zombie” variant unlocked.
With an additional side effect of tainting a world with actual Orks if not controlled carefully.
lol.

[queen laurel]

they grow their own food

they have all they need to know to learn

they are very

[arctic talon]

tbh they aren't zombies

[queen laurel]

very tough

[arctic talon]

they're just mutants

[raven stone]

Yea fair

[arctic talon]

they speak fucked up low gothic

[queen laurel]

it's the perfect army

[outer wave]

I would unironically love a landscape piece being some land thats been leveled, with portions of the ground revealing developing orks and gretchin

[arctic talon]

The tech priests originally

were going to classify them as abhumans when they first ran into them

Until they found out about the uh

Ork stuff

[raven stone]

🤣

But I would imagine some Radical Inquisitors backing that sort of project in all honesty

For a unique Guard regiment, ofc

[outer wave]

Now I got a question: if these tech priests were to leave that place with samples of ork spores, and some ork spores managed to grow on Mars, would those orks take on some fucked up culture based on the Tech Priests?

[raven stone]

I actually somewhat doubt that

They don’t exactly copy by imitation, and given the implied setting, they would have continued with the culture form their original vessel.

[gray umbra]

it would prolly just become an infestation and they would have to clear it

[raven stone]

Albeit a severely degraded one ofc

[outer wave]

I see I see

[arctic talon]

unlikely

Also presumably there are Orks on Mars

they probably just get killed by the worse things in the Rustwastes

or catacombs

[outer wave]

Right right

[queen laurel]

my god all it takes is a handful of them to start popping out of everywhere

[gray umbra]

when an imperial citizen forgets to clean out his 2 year old expired bread from his fridge

https://tenor.com/view/orks-ork-waaaagh-slugga-boy-dawn-of-war-gif-15592891

[raven stone]

Only if said mould is specifically Ork spores lol

Normal spores shouldn’t be like that 🤣

Otherwise Imperium would be in much, much more trouble.

[outer wave]

Honestly, it could possibly act like that

I mean, shit is full of glucose and starch and other good treats, but I doubt it'd grow any sentient orkoid species on its own

[arctic talon]

tbh

all it takes is some smaller stuff first

[outer wave]

It would be funny if an Imperial world was taken over because one imperial civvie bought some ork spore-contaminated food and didnt get to eat it in time

[queen laurel]

to be honest that can work

but

they need to stick to the ground to grow

[outer wave]

😔

[outer wave]

Damn it couldnt just grow in the fridge then divert its embryo into the walls

[worldly gull]

like the crystal gems!

[queen laurel]

well i guess

both do come from the ground

[barren prawn]

do you think the ork shrooms are edible?

[queen laurel]

well no

the squigs are

shrooms no

only orks can safely digest them

[arctic talon]

Ork mushrooms are edible

they do seem to cause mutation though

over several generations

so don't

[queen laurel]

yeah if you wanna eat something ork related

go for the squigs

[arctic talon]

Eat the squigs or the orks themselves

The mushrooms seem to have something fucky with them

[barren prawn]

prolly just warp fuckry just keep a blank near you should be fine

[queen laurel]

Trust me you do not want to eat a Rutted Gob-Buster

Eating this thing is already considered a endurance test

What what do you think this thing will do to a human

[barren prawn]

british food

[queen laurel]

i love the guide on how to butcher one properly

[opaque coyote]

Balatro

[winter vessel]

Oh wow, didn’t know they come from the bodily waste of green skin

Talk about reuse, reduce, recycle

[opaque coyote]

Shit goes in

Shit goes out

[opaque coyote]

Love how Zapdakka became so excited about talking about Squigs

[queen laurel]

nah the creatures only eat their waste

they are born like squigs

These guys are literally put in the drops which is the toilets

to fatten up

then be eaten

[tulip sand]

Hows the 40k fanfic scene? I feel like theres the goldilocks zone of autism here so there can actually be good fan-made content that isnt all funny meme or hornyposting while not being a drag

[opaque coyote]

There's a couple that are good.

The All Guardsman Party is a good one

Combination of actual 40k content and memes.

[winter vessel]

Been reading Marsh Silas Bloody Platoon, Guardsman focused fic, pretty neat

[storm jungle]

Theres a few good ones but as ever as you said they are amidst a sea of shitty, unfunny, horny and primarch-slop.

Also depends on your perception of what you consider a "good" fanfic.

[arctic talon]

tbf that one isn't even literal fanfic necessarily lol

its a TTRPG campaign

lol

[winter vessel]

I’ve seen so many titles for Primarch on Primarch action or Primarch x First Legion Captain. I gotta filter that every time when I look to read something

[opaque coyote]

Kinda doubt it's a real one at some points tbh

But it does have some pretty interesting shit and it's fun to read so I'll let it slide

[storm jungle]

Its literally everywhere yeah I hate it.

like, let me see-

LITERALLY the 2nd fucking recent post

also this right below it

aughhh kill me

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-2-death-space-marine-2-gif-12976716491498684396

[opaque coyote]

Personally I like Messages for Dad

But I might have a higher chao-

I mean slop tolerance

Annals of St. Ciaphas is genuinely good

Tho

The writer actually copies the style of the books fairly well

[tulip sand]

Why bro

[tulip sand]

Is that the one where he accidentally becomes a chaos cult leader

[opaque coyote]

Nah he becomes a Saint instead

It is both funny and sad

https://archiveofourown.org/series/2997159

[tulip sand]

I found one that was like tom clancy but 40k

Why sad?

I liked how the cain books you had a sense of things slowly going to shit as the novels progressed

[opaque coyote]

You'll see

[tulip sand]

Like foreboding and while cain is initially insulated with layers of defenses etc eventually it gets bad

[opaque coyote]

Let's just say that even as a saint he still has his good old fashioned

Self hatred and severe impostor syndrome

Also no jurgen

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/real-bad-ashe-ashe-incest-wow-wincest-smile-gif-15989501

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/curb-your-enthusiasm-larry-david-pretty-good-good-great-gif-4731991

[dapper gyro]

Bloody hell

[dusk patrol]

Honestly the funniest shit is they’re literally just making them roommates in like college or whatever?

[storm jungle]

I mean yeah

[dusk patrol]

Like, are they still the exact same?

[storm jungle]

Considering its primarchs im gonna assume yes

they are basically warlord teenagers

[dusk patrol]

I wanna read the comments

[storm jungle]

Fulgrim focusing on cosmetic aesthetics while Ferrus is just trying to mentally plan where hes gonna dump his workshop shit is really funny ngl

[dusk patrol]

3D printers

Why are we even using primarchs for this

[opaque coyote]

For fun mainly

[dusk patrol]

Shut up Laati

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

I bet you write this shit

[opaque coyote]

There is a certain entertainment value to having fantastical characters in modern settings

[dusk patrol]

Uh huh

“Entertainment”

[opaque coyote]

Nah.

I recently wrote one of my favorite characters getting torn in half

[storm jungle]

If this is your reaction to something this basic AU wise i dread you looking at the rest of the 40k AO3 posts ngl

[opaque coyote]

Different fandom though

[dusk patrol]

Immediate smut makes more sense to me tbh

At least people are just whackin off

[opaque coyote]

I guess it's the build up that makes people more likely to whack off?

Idk I don't read that shit

[dusk patrol]

Mmmhmm

[opaque coyote]

I'm more of a

"Suffering builds character"

[dusk patrol]

Idk I can’t think of the last time I read a fanfic which could be considered good

[storm jungle]

Theres a lot of good ones tbh

the problem is with a fanfic anyone can write one

[opaque coyote]

Fanfic is basically trash diving

[storm jungle]

so theres a ton of shitshow ones that make up the majority lol

[opaque coyote]

You get gold

[storm jungle]

^

[opaque coyote]

Or you get shit

Or something in-between

Either way, cherish the good ones and ignore the ones you don't like

[storm jungle]

Pretty much yeah. Its not that deep, you just search self indulgently for any you might like or just move on lol

[opaque coyote]

And also one man's trash is another man's treasure

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/war-games-joshua-woppr-strange-game-doctor-only-winning-move-is-not-to-play-gif-16198386

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

There are some good ones that I like. Although they're scattered around different media

So

Speen

[storm jungle]

More or less yeah lol

I only read ones my professional writer friend usually writes so I largely ignore everything else.

I dont have the time to really trashdive as I once used to

[outer wave]

Trashdive at work

[tulip sand]

Deadass

Not even tangentially warhammer related theyre just in a 21st century north american university

I guess the horus heresy series made that much of an impression on people, i only started reading the solar war

[storm jungle]

HH has literally made almost every talking point within 40k nothing but primarchs so you arent too wrong on that one lol

they are basically marvel characters at this point

OH MY FUCKING GOD

THE MOMENT I GO TO R40KLORE

FIRST top result

[arctic talon]

GW pls

Announace a new Vulkan mini

show off a silouette of a spear

then reveal Vulkan He'stan in plastic

[storm jungle]

Also right below that post

Slopdiver grindset never stops

[spring cairn]

when you know nothing about helldiver's lore nor 40k's

[storm jungle]

Its either this or "who would win super urf or 40gay" i know which topic im picking tbh

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1053823148048527440/1196921765868343307/SPOILER_I_dunno.gif?ex=65b96342&is=65a6ee42&hm=ed754853149503a484b88d31fa09818ce69ab6465356b56c9036fa16c501ca14&

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/mitsuru-kirijo-persona5-evoker-persona-gif-26878877

[storm jungle]

Real.

[spring cairn]

would goku survive in fourtyK

[opaque coyote]

40gay

Using that from now on

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah @queen laurel the cav iron jaws army of renown did good in comp

I forgot to say

[opaque coyote]

I genuinely wonder if Omni Man can actually like

Destroy the Imperium

[spring cairn]

no

[opaque coyote]

Considering they do have black hole guns probably not

But I can imagine Omni Man destroying a good amount of planets at least

Like two systems?

[spring cairn]

Viltrumites can get punched very hard and die so no

but then again, it's always up to the author

[opaque coyote]

Real

Powerscaling is fun at times but the author can literally just write

[storm jungle]

Largely probably.

[opaque coyote]

"Omni Man took cocaine and destroyed terra"

[storm jungle]

He only needs to fly fast

and 90% of Terra is like gone

lol

remember 50 Viltrumites essentially keep an empire running while going towards regression and extinction

[arctic talon]

Spoilers

smh

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I was thinking that he probably would destroy Terra if he was nearby.

But I think shit like the black hole guns might kill him.

[opaque coyote]

I still think that is utterly insane, and I fucking love that detail honestly

[storm jungle]

Yeah same, its pretty funny too.

[opaque coyote]

Although it also helps because there's less bullshit needed to write.

If there was like a million Viltrumites, it'd get even more ridiculous than comics usually are

[storm jungle]

Nolan decimating that entire Flaxxan planet kinda solves most of the 40k VS arguments imo, guy literally gets hit by a titan-tier satellite weapon and it does nothing to stop him too.

The ultimate irony behind him is the thing that defeated him at the end rn was his son/emotions lol

At the end of the day hes an equally if not more OP superman satire character, so hes essentially a primarch tier threat by himself.

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-destruction-planets-gif-22974289

[arctic talon]

Relevant big comic spoilers

[storm jungle]

REAL.

[arctic talon]

This shits gona go hard when its animated

[storm jungle]

Also god that panel goes so fucking goofy and so hard at the same time.

[arctic talon]

Its so fucking silly

and goes insanely hard

[storm jungle]

I can literally hear the "RAARGHHHHHHHH"

[arctic talon]

tbh the lead up pannel is arguably better

[opaque coyote]

Mark won the battle despite being beaten to shit lmao

[arctic talon]

Mark "Nah I'd win" Greyson

[storm jungle]

Yeah like I said, its not even a debate lmao

[arctic talon]

I love how absurdly broken Invincible's cape shit is

[storm jungle]

Invincible benefits from like, almost none of its characters really having plot armor of any kind minus a few exceptions.

[outer wave]

The C.diff crashing into my system to give me poo poo diarrhea

[storm jungle]

40k meanwhile runs on G1 Transformers rules

[arctic talon]

Mark absolutely has plot armor

but he doesn't count

because he's

https://tenor.com/view/the-guy-from-fortnite-invincible-fortnite-title-screen-mark-grayson-gif-1317667857519902031

[storm jungle]

Yeah like i said "few exceptions"

[arctic talon]

wait no

https://tenor.com/view/invulnerable-gif-22484955

[storm jungle]

hes the main character but he actually struggles at least

thats kinda how you dael with plot armor

aka

[arctic talon]

Tbf he literally gets beat to shit

99% of the time lol

[storm jungle]

have your protagonist beaten to shit

[arctic talon]

Dominion Genesis reference

[storm jungle]

REAL.

But yeah thats how you deal with protag plot armor

well that and having them actually relatively usually fail

[arctic talon]

I like it when protaganists suffer

a reasonable ammount

or sometimes a lot

[storm jungle]

but yeah I do love how half of Invincible's viltrumite stuff is like

"Can they beat this thing?"

"Yes."

"How tho?"

"Fly fast lol"

[arctic talon]

EUGENICS AND PHYSICS

THE ANSWER TO ALL OF VILTRUMS PROBLEMS

[storm jungle]

VILTRUMENSCH

[arctic talon]

I do find it hilarious the great purge

realistically did nothing

to improve their genepool

[storm jungle]

yeah it was them being fucking stupid

[arctic talon]

it just killed half their fucking population

[storm jungle]

also their planet's solar rings being made from the corpses of their population

[arctic talon]

IT GOES HARD

[storm jungle]

THAT is some 40k tier shit

its so fucking dumb i love it

[opaque coyote]

"IT'S THE MONKEEE- THE MONKEEEIII-"

"TOO BAD, IT LOOKS LIKE VECT HAS A SORE THROAT! I GUESS THAT MAKES ME THE NEW LEADER!"

[storm jungle]

Also true

tho i meant more like uh

how in the O.G cartoon NO ONE ever dies

then the movie rolls around

AND THE FIRST OPENING MINUTES

[storm jungle]

IS YOUR FAVORITE CHARACTERS BEING EXECUTED

[opaque coyote]

DIE AUTOBOTS

[storm jungle]

YES

LMAO

NO MERCY

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/prowls-reaction-to-that-info-my-reaction-to-that-information-my-reaction-to-that-information-meme-my-reaction-to-that-information-gif-my-honest-reaction-gif-26282255

[storm jungle]

^

Megatron fucking executes one of them too

[arctic talon]

Traumatizing children

[storm jungle]

holy fuck it goes hard

[opaque coyote]

Always wonder what's the in universe excuse to having the lasers suddenly being effective

[spring cairn]

that's brilliantly stupid

[arctic talon]

There isn't

[storm jungle]

No reason, it was just to traumatize kids

(based)

[arctic talon]

don't worry about it

Tbf

the goal wasn't to traumatize kids

they literally told the Scriptwriter

hey these characters arne't safe anymore

because we don't sell their toys anymore

[storm jungle]

yeah i watched that video too elite, you aint special

[arctic talon]

die

[opaque coyote]

Pog.

I also like in that scene, Starscream literally scanned around with Megatron Gun being like

"ANYBODY WANT A PIECE OF ME?"

[arctic talon]

We can be nerds together

[storm jungle]

also Starscream's rule as the new lord of the decepticons lasted like

[arctic talon]

I burnt myself making chocolate yesterday for valentines day

[storm jungle]

28 seconds iirc

[arctic talon]

It sucked

[storm jungle]

this is why i dont celebrate anything

[arctic talon]

I wanted to make something cute

I can't even eat chocolate

I'm fucking allergic to it

[storm jungle]

[outer wave]

Who were you making it for, a partner?

[arctic talon]

yeah my GF

it was worth it

lol

[outer wave]

Oh cute

[opaque coyote]

Apparently it's canon that he won the fight by hiding in the corner

And then sneak attacking the last guy

[storm jungle]

ah yes

the cod multiplayer tactic

[arctic talon]

Soon this will be animated(probably)

Season 4

[arctic talon]

I love ratting

[spring cairn]

I feel like you could feed a small country with just Allen

[arctic talon]

ngl its kind of funny

how he got smaller this season with 0 explanation

[storm jungle]

Seth Rogan moment

[arctic talon]

So sad we didn't get very

why do the homeless people in Metaphor look like zombies lol

[spring cairn]

because they look like zombies in real life

https://tenor.com/view/picklejuicelover69-gif-2151952551172175484

[arctic talon]

💀

[sacred ginkgo]

Just realized they never followed up on that one

I initially thought that was going to be like Apathy syndrome or something and get called up at the end of the game

[arctic talon]

I honestly just think they're suffering from Melencholia and going to turn into Humans eventually

or the igniter experiment stuff

[sacred ginkgo]

Wasn’t that purple though

[arctic talon]

The crystals are

We dunno what it looks like naturally

We’ve only seen it done via magic artificially

[sacred ginkgo]

I just don’t remember

It’s been a few months since I beat the game

[arctic talon]

The black floating magla we see with dragons and stuff

And ||Will||

[spare osprey]

no ||Tech Jacket|| tho

boooooo

[arctic talon]

They might add him in

During the ||invincible war stuff||

[spare osprey]

it's possible, ik they're adding two folks this season who would've been in the last one

||Brit and wolfman||

which is cool

there's zero chance they have ||spawn|| tho

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

Also after it was pointed out in the knowledgehub video. I actually watched back and realized that a lot of the times

Starscream was actually right in terms of how a plan would fail

"I have a machine that's going to blow up the Earth!"

"Megatron we're literally fucking on it."

"Shut the fuck up Starscream!"

Like unironically Starscream would be the better leader for the Decepticons

And it kinda changed my perspective of G1 Starscream

He's basically the one somewhat intelligent person seeing his leader and members basically fail over and over despite him trying to give advice

No wonder he went insane lmao

Also the fact that he's a literal scientist probably makes the stupidity short circuit him even more

[ashen yoke]

anybody know anything about a 31st regiment

[opaque coyote]

"SCIENTIFIC GOBBLEDYEGOOK"

[tough haven]

Anyone got that story about a 12 year old girl playing a zealot in a ttrpg and being terrifying?

[opaque coyote]

Damn that sounds funny

Lemme try

[tough haven]

I need it to send to a friend

[opaque coyote]

I did not find it

I did find this

https://youtu.be/faPg4BfCa3w?si=oNR0Xef5gNItiS8V

[green loom]

I'm pleased that KCD2 is the best kind of medieval content

Aka slightly more serious Monty Python

[languid meadow]

"I FEEL QUITE HUNGRY"

[green loom]

It always rolls a 3 so it's pretty broken too

[rocky gale]

So turns out GW uploaded an interactive map for Old World, but had to take it down and edit it because they didn't realise the original version they released had been based off maps made by a fan for his own personal RP use and included many non-canon locations

So they had to edit out all the non-canon stuff and then reupload it

[opaque coyote]

Dismas: I killed a loving woman once...

Antiquarian: Was she rich though? Did she drop any good loot?

[green loom]

That's pretty funny

The showcase faction for empire rn is Middenland right

[rocky gale]

I think

Either Middenland or Nordland

Although there's mentions of Margritta in the Westerland

[green loom]

It's white and blue so i'm pretty sure it's Middenland

[languid meadow]

Yeah

But idk who placed the coat of arms but if it is Middenland it's right next to the capital of Ostland

It's Osterlund

[green loom]

The Claimant of which is the ruler of Middenland

Hence the Middenland colours

The coat of arms encompases the multiple provinces under it

Since this is the Age of 3 Emperors where the Empire is divided mainly into 3 blocs + Marienburg

[languid meadow]

oooohggg I should not be reading things rn then, my brain actually just skipped half of it mid read

[tulip sand]

Yeah i wonder what it was like before that

[arctic talon]

Marine stuff mostly

Tbh

[tulip sand]

Up until like mid 2023 i had a lore accurate knowledge of HH and the primarchs and that was kinda cool

[arctic talon]

Primarch obsession has worsened overtime

Somehow

[tulip sand]

Directly related with coomerism run rampant

I still mostly like guard focused stuff tho

[arctic talon]

Tbh I don’t mind primarch stuff

I just think people are really weird about them

Like

[tulip sand]

Like even talking about fanfics this is one I like despite it not being finished and hard to follow https://m.fanfiction.net/s/14159585/1/Silver-Spear

[arctic talon]

They’re not that important to 99.9999999% of lore lol

[tulip sand]

Like what ppl were talking about before

'Heres what angron would be like at Harvard!' What causes someone to think this?

Maybe its band kids who saw TTS emperor and are trying to emulate it

[arctic talon]

I resent that as someone who did marching band in high school smh

[timid lodge]

Could a Daemon feel fear?
Like actual “oh shit I’m fucked” fear or they don’t abide by natural emotions like humans do?

[tulip sand]

Yeah i mean when they get actually killed it happens

[green loom]

They experience the full range of emotions as far as I know

[arctic talon]

Yes, but they generally don’t feel it unless they’re in danger of a final death

[sly ivy]

Yeah Dorn put the fear of turbo autism in Khorne when he refused to break in the warp desert and instead recited military history for 8000 years

It’s said pappy K still has nightmares consisting entirely of excerpts from de Bello Gallico

[late osprey]

yeah i could write a book of just me ranting about the primarchization of 40k

back in the good ol' days, it was all about Your Dudes

the 35th WhoCaresian Blasters regiment, the Pwnerz Chapter of space marines

now everyone and their grandma has to bring in a named character

of course, named characters always existed, but now it's just insane

[late osprey]

a named character that is, of course, always a primarch

almost, if not all, of the most beloved books in 40k feature characters that are completely irrelevant in the wider setting, now it increasingly just becomes more and more like Marvel as aforementioned

huge fan of darktide's setup for much of this reason, in fact

[sour hornet]

I do