40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I'm aware of that. It's basically a military thing.

[humble shoal]

Brother I am pinned here.

[storm jungle]

Primarchs count more as siblings since they came from the same coom-pod

[opaque coyote]

Just wondering about if the Geneseed technically counts

[humble shoal]

[opaque coyote]

Don't they technically have the same surrogate mom and dad as well

[storm jungle]

Yeah more or less.

[humble shoal]

Erdogan

And erdagone

[outer wave]

So why do space marines always refer to their primarchs as father? Even with the geneseed, which are just organs, they could've been more normal about it

[humble shoal]

Because they arent normal

[outer wave]

That's true!!!

[storm jungle]

Because genetic nonsense

[humble shoal]

Like who wouldnt want to call russ daddy that hurt to write

[outer wave]

Daddy Russy.....

Daddy Perty.....

Daddy Fulgy.....

[opaque coyote]

Perturabo isn't mature enough to be a good dad

[outer wave]

No, but he can still be a daddy

[opaque coyote]

Pert along with Dorn is so autistic that I am at least 95% sure that they would just both explain in depth how they aren't a dad

And how they aren't looking to adopt and how you're too old anyways

[opaque coyote]

...with how he treats his Gene-Sons I'm pretty sure he'd be a terrible one regardless of which definition

"To make my legion more efficient, I will kill 1/10th of them randomly."

"To make my legion accept the Codex, I will charge into a well guarded fortress and cause massive casualties in both sides."

[outer wave]

He's clearly trying

[dusk patrol]

Why do people call close friends brother or sister when they often aren't related

[paper haven]

Aside from the powerful psychic link, geneseed are how they reproduce now. Father seems an appropriate term for the genetic blueprint you're made from.

[outer wave]

Yeah but you don't get those same folks calling others cousin when they're just friends of those friends (taking this one out from SM2)

[opaque coyote]

Imagine getting an organ transplant from somebody and you immediately call them daddy

[outer wave]

Imagine having a son this way

[humble shoal]

Hes just like his daddy

[humble shoal]

Also all of you need stamps

[opaque coyote]

Mpreg

[outer wave]

40k Mpreg fan fic

[opaque coyote]

I want to do this meme but with Genestealer cultists

Actually can Genestealers impregnate men or only infect

[arctic talon]

only infect

you don't have sex with a genestealer

well you can have sex with a hybrid

but not an actual purestrain

they lack sex organs

[opaque coyote]

Yeah IK but I thought it'd be some type of like

Alien Xenomorph type of shit

[outer wave]

But could one have sex with a genestealer

[arctic talon]

nah

most you get is a kiss

well

"kiss"

getting a giant fucking needled tongue shoved down your throat

[opaque coyote]

Probably not pure ones since the kiss is how they reproduce.

Hybrids though? Yeah probably

[storm jungle]

its not the throat tbh

it can be injected anywhere

theres an old artwork where a genestealer tongue-stabs a catachan's stomach

its basically a thin ovipositor for gene-coom

[opaque coyote]

Do animal Genestealer hybrids exist

[green loom]

Why are certain priests referred to as "father"

[arctic talon]

its described as throat in the newer codexes tbf

[storm jungle]

Genestealers can infect any organic being.

[opaque coyote]

IK Orks can be infected

Not sure about Eldar though

[arctic talon]

but yeah that makes sense

Eldar can be infected

[storm jungle]

Im gonna shove someone down your throat in a minute

[arctic talon]

do your worst

[opaque coyote]

I just assume they go for the most intelligent because it's easier to take over

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

Ever watched Alien?

🗞️

yeah

[outer wave]

Oh oh, me me! Pick me!

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

its not even intelligent

its the most numerous/easy to corrupt

humans are prime for that material

[opaque coyote]

So say

If a Patriarch landed on a dinosaur planet

Would Dinosaur Genestealers be a thing if it managed to infect some

[storm jungle]

Tau are too strict/careful, Eldar are too tight-knit and their birth cycle is long, Orks just notice the guys who vent, etc

[storm jungle]

Yes

again we just get GSC humans because tabletop

realistically speaking Genestealers' can infect anything

their job is

land on planet

infect race

make them breed like rabbits

weaken planetary infrastructure for invasion

[opaque coyote]

Now I'm imagining like

An Eldar Exodite fighting against a Genestealer Hybrid T-Rex

Actually

Actually

Genestealer Raptors

Kinda similar to that Primal episode with the zombie Brachiosaurus.

Actually due to Genestealers kinda having a lack of hair, they'd probably look closer to the typical toy dinosaurs

Yk the ones

[storm jungle]

Tyranids got dinosaurs in one of their inspirational animal motifs so thats not too wrong

[arctic talon]

the Tau eugenics program stops them from easily fucking lol

[celest dome]

We really should have beasts genestealers tbh

Would be fun, even if only from Imperial stock

Maybe Genestealer Grox

[dusk patrol]

Important reading to understand humans:

[storm jungle]

again tabletop laziness

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-cat-shoo-biscuit-gif-8024642674144447563

[storm jungle]

pretty hot

[dusk patrol]

She uh

She has a particular type of story she likes

That’s for sure

[storm jungle]

😭

[humble shoal]

Looks like a less original female chuck tingle

[spring cairn]

I'm glad to be illiterate

[raven stone]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-flamer-heresy-purge-warhammer40k-lightning-claws-gif-16488791

[storm jungle]

my friend is watching Captain America: Brave New Slop and over the last hour all the messages ive been getting are is how bad the movie is from the theatre

at least he got his ticket for free i guess

[spring cairn]

who could've guessed this result

[storm jungle]

ikr

my friend also said uh

this movie had 3-4 reshoots

and over 6 credited writers

off to the bin of movies it goes

[spring cairn]

if you know all of this before going

and you still go watch it

idk

[storm jungle]

I mean

its a free ticket

id go too, he went in mostly because he was bored apparently

i dont blame him too much

[spring cairn]

I think I'd rather do the plank for 3 hours than go for free

[storm jungle]

[viral halo]

Heard the movie is quite bad

Anthony Mackie just is not leading man potential

[raven stone]

Man, I thought it was only the macho crowd crowing about it not manly enough but if even your friend is saying it’s bad…

Probably a slop of a plot

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much.

It has a bad director, bad ideas, and about every other thing that is the core to the slopness of MCU movies lately.

[storm jungle]

I legit cannot believe

they advertised it as: "THE MAN BEHIND CLOVERFIELD PARADOX"

like bitch who?

[viral halo]

the movie was made for the WOKE crowd as usual but it just sucks

[viral halo]

there's a movie where he plays tupac and he has to repeadetly say he's tupac bc he's the least convincing tupac on earth

[dapper gyro]

It is not that, it is just bad.

[storm jungle]

also that yeah

its just a bad movie

[viral halo]

(I have not seen it and am just saying this for no reason)

[raven stone]

It’s a shame how so much bad writing is just being overlooked by claims of (non) Wokeness.
Bad writing is bad writing, regardless of which message it conveys…

And having spoiled myself a wee bit already?
It’s a bloody shame they messed it up.

[storm jungle]

the only "woke" tier shit ive seen so far is saying Sam is just not Steve and will never be because hes BLACK

[storm jungle]

Also yeah that is the sort of shit i hate the most

[raven stone]

Like yes expecting references from movies 17 years ago work is a bit of a stretch, but if done well this really could have given us a nice snapshot of a post original Avengers world.

[storm jungle]

pandering is only bad when its done like Veilguard imo and i say this as a very pro-queer person

[viral halo]

The 4channers have been calling him captain bad word

[storm jungle]

LMAO

GOD SAKES

[viral halo]

Very bad

very very bad

[viral halo]

Yea, agreed

That shit is tough to stomach for queer folks as well

[storm jungle]

^

it just makes them even easier targets which sucks

[viral halo]

Any time a dev self inserts into a game they should be shot in the head in a public forum

[raven stone]

Oh Lord the DIALOGUE.
I have seen snippets x.x
It’s almost like the script writers are Alpha Legionnaires out to troll all sides…

[viral halo]

Alo dragon age had such a tone shift from the first two games to the next two that it just sucks

went from grimdark

to bright color palette

[storm jungle]

^^^^^^^^^^

[viral halo]

and bad gameplay

and marvel dialogue

I don't want marvel dialogue

I don't need my characters to be quippy

I need them to be interesting

Darkspawn eating babies and being gore covered monsters and Qunari being basically minotaur wahhabists to everything is bright colored and qunari are not scary anymore

get the fuck outta here

[raven stone]

Gaming design becoming corporate and shareholder driven is an actual issue, even without commenting on the content.
If the execs are, for example, somehow convinced gamers liked rice pudding…
…every other game’s dialogue created by triple A gaming companies will have their characters parrot “rice pudding” every. Other. Line.

[viral halo]

Game devs choose milennial esque memes over riveting gameplay and dialogue because they think it appeals to all audiences

mother fuckers the 14 year olds in the US are vaping and watching gore all day they don't want "he's right behind me isn't he?" they want gun and ball

[raven stone]

The other reason why Asian games are making it bigger nowadays.
Like yes ok sure some Asian games still have the dreaded “Gatcha” attached and I get that will turn some people off

But the writing is…actually solid.

Like, give us gamers a reason to care about what we doing.

[opaque coyote]

JJ Abrams?

Didn't he basically kinda fuck up Cloverfield

[raven stone]

Do you.
Do you want to start a joint Star Wars New Trilogy dunking session lol.

[opaque coyote]

By making a bunch of disconnected movies

[opaque coyote]

Tired of that, but I am up for a dunking session on how he kinda mishandled Cloverfield

Like the first movie was pretty good

And then for some reason he decided to just make a bunch of disconnected movies

And then just slapped a cameo and the name on jt

[raven stone]

Given his work and what you say, he does sound like the sort of guy who suffers from project sprawl.

[arctic talon]

Sometimes the writing is ass

I'm going to be honest here

lol

in fact the level of dogshit

can be much higher imo

[opaque coyote]

I think it was written by two people. JJ and a director who's name I forgot because I cannot remember celebrities for shit

And most of the other movies like Paradox were directed by just JJ I think

[raven stone]

Yea ok, fair, Asian games can suffer, but that is still barely better than the “hammer in the face” approach AAA games take…

[opaque coyote]

Also it's Gacha

[dapper gyro]

Talk about bad games, the Saint Row reboot...

[raven stone]

Thanks for correcting lol

[arctic talon]

I sentence you to rolling the Gachapon at a conveyer belt sushi restraunt

[dapper gyro]

That shit is unbearable.

[opaque coyote]

As a fan of Genshin Impact and HSR. The writing varies between peak and dogshit 99% of the time

[raven stone]

Well also sounds like JJ doesn’t do delegations well lol

[arctic talon]

control freak

lol

[opaque coyote]

Yes I haven't seen the sun in 40000 years due to me liking GI and HSR

[arctic talon]

Genshin story is mid 99% of the time

[raven stone]

Only play Genshin myself, I think the dog shit parts is actually when they rely on the really traditional and over worn anime tropes.

When they do lore and original shit it’s actually better.

[arctic talon]

but its inoffensive

[opaque coyote]

One of my friends plays like 10+ Gacha games and it's

Uh

Concerning

[opaque coyote]

Agreed

[arctic talon]

Genshin Impact/hj

[raven stone]

Are they broke? Gambling addict? :/

[dapper gyro]

I can't play gacha at all.

[opaque coyote]

Genshin Lore and World Quests is better than the Main Story Quests most of the time

[opaque coyote]

Real

[raven stone]

We are still waiting for Raiden Shogun to suffer….Consequences…lol

[opaque coyote]

I'd say in terms of ranking of AQ stories personally

Good: Fontaine, Sumeru

Okay: Liyue, Mondstadt, Natlan.

Dogshit: Inazuma

[arctic talon]

she won't

She is based and warlord pilled

and can therfore do no wrong

[opaque coyote]

She's a variant of Mei, she probably won't

[raven stone]

They definitely learned Inazuma lessons for how to portray war for Natlan.

[opaque coyote]

[raven stone]

Fair on points about Riaden Shogun not suffering anything lol

[opaque coyote]

That is true. I'm surprised that a civil war didn't show any Death

Like the only people that died in Inazuma AQs is

• An NPC that was a complete dumbass

• Signora

[raven stone]

I suspect the devs (perhaps out of timidity/cowardness/CCP censorship) had to hold back on showing deaths back then.

By the time Natlan rolled around, they moved HQ to Singapore, and can get away with -relatively- more.

[opaque coyote]

To be honest, judging by some of the character designs, they probably were originally dark skinned

But the execs probably were like

"Make them whiter"

[raven stone]

It’s also the ancient anime genre debate.

Recalling how original Japanese anime doesn’t give two shits about realistic colours at all, and most if not all characters are just biased towards lighter tones.

[opaque coyote]

Tbh it's probably because

Most Japanese are tan at most

[arctic talon]

beauty standards

as well

being paler = pretty

[opaque coyote]

So of course they just unconsciously made them whiter

[raven stone]

Fuck I’d say Lala Sun (Gundam) is, well, groundbreaking back then, possibly.

[opaque coyote]

Also this.

Also why GI doesn't have muscular women...

Or muscular men

[arctic talon]

its also just a beauty standards thing for being paler/whiter

[opaque coyote]

For some reason

[raven stone]

Makes me wonder why we don’t get her out more often to break the mould.

[arctic talon]

Dark colored skin is considered not as pretty

[opaque coyote]

Although the Muscular Men part confuses me because uh

HSR has them

[arctic talon]

Thats just a model thing

they're lazy

[opaque coyote]

ZZZ also have them

[arctic talon]

GI has a lazy model system

all male characters use one template

[opaque coyote]

Yeah pretty much

[arctic talon]

all female characters use one template

[raven stone]

Varessa is FINALLY going to have a thicc(er) build as a competitive eater.

[arctic talon]

all children use one template

so like

[opaque coyote]

Ehhh

Official design btw

[arctic talon]

nah she's thin lol

[raven stone]

Line her up against Mualani…

[arctic talon]

okay yeah

[raven stone]

You will see what I mean :p

[arctic talon]

but they're both thin is my point lol

[raven stone]

Ok fair

[arctic talon]

her being less thin does not make her not thin

[opaque coyote]

Asian beauty standards moment

[arctic talon]

something something hag something

[raven stone]

But yes it took them THIS LONG to have variation.

[opaque coyote]

Unrelated

"lemme hit the Maya Fey"

[raven stone]

….what

[arctic talon]

anyways point being everyone being so pale in genshin is genuinely a product of like Asian beauty standards + prolly some racism from somewhere in the chain lol

[opaque coyote]

Probably a combination of unconscious bias, beauty standards, and probably a bit of racism

[raven stone]

And the unwritten laws of anime.
Remember when Japanese people complained about a DanDaDan character being coloured black…

[opaque coyote]

Since again, 99% sure that due to the amount of highlights and shit some characters have that they were originally darker skinned

[arctic talon]

prolly

[arctic talon]

let me let you in on a secret

well

not a secret

but East Asia

are the true Ranked competitive Racists

[raven stone]

I kind of expected that, I am from East Asia XD

[arctic talon]

my grandparents

really do just say shit sometimes

💀

its crazy

[opaque coyote]

Bro Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese barely look different.

There are minor differences but like

It's similar to trying to find the difference between an alligator and a crocodile

[raven stone]

East Asians can be absolutely unhinged when we are not careful lol.

[arctic talon]

My Grandma no longer thinks of my father as subhuman for being ethnically Chinese

great improvement

[opaque coyote]

Yippee?

[arctic talon]

but he's from Taiwan so he's less bad then if my Mother married someone from Mainland china

I would like to mention

this took over 20 years

[opaque coyote]

My Filipino friend's mom cursed out Chinese people for like an hour straight. Luckily I wasn't there

[raven stone]

Sad thing is the three can tell the difference between each other XD
And there is a lot of bad blood between the three.
only traditionally designed anime women can unite them and even then.

[opaque coyote]

[raven stone]

Older generation Japanese really drank too much of that Imperial Japan propaganda juice…

[arctic talon]

I'm gona be honest its really easy for me to see the difference

but like

I'm half Chinese/half japanese

maybe its a familiarity thing lol

[arctic talon]

my grandpa is fine, aside from the fact he's probably a war criminal whos done horrific things

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/kingdom-come-deliverance-kcd-kcd-2-angry-discord-gif-3991301312257303779

[raven stone]

Bottom of my heart, actually cool mix, even for all the trouble you see.

[opaque coyote]

Korean old people having a seizure rn

[arctic talon]

my Grandpa on my mothers side is also dead now

[opaque coyote]

American Chinese. Born in America with two Chinese parents

[arctic talon]

so I can't ask him what he did in WW2 even if I wanted to

[arctic talon]

Nope He's Laotian, aintya Mr.Khan

[raven stone]

Anyone who participated in a war probably did something this would be considered immoral (nevermind war crimes), so eh…not mad. It be how wars are.

[arctic talon]

I mean it was more where he was in China

during WW2

so like I'm like 99% sure

[opaque coyote]

Oh noh

[arctic talon]

he was a really nice grandfather though

so I can't complain about that

[opaque coyote]

I wonder if people living in Argentina feel the same

[arctic talon]

💀

[raven stone]

…ah. Well. Still.
Thankfully my family has no link to that place, so no gripe from me.
(From HK so I am not hooked up too badly on the Japanese war crimes juice. Not too badly.)

(My grandparents on both sides were already in HK during WW2 as well)

[opaque coyote]

Luckily my paternal grandma was adopted (one child policy moment) so I don't know shit about my family history

[raven stone]

(So they didn’t get it TOO bad.)

[opaque coyote]

Same with my maternal, although she probably wasn't adopted

[arctic talon]

my family on my Fathers side were part of the Chinese Nationalists

and thats why I'm taiwanese lol

[arctic talon]

neat

[opaque coyote]

My mom actually went to Japan to go to work. She still knows Japanese and tells me tales of her experience there.

[raven stone]

China and Taiwan, the never ending song…
For the record, I don’t care if Beijing or Taipei is the actual capital of China or even HK.
(Yes I am one of those “would like to see China whole but cannot give a shit about parties” kind of guy)

[opaque coyote]

I mean the worst part is that

[arctic talon]

ngl at this point Chinese reunification is considered a dead idea in Taiwan

aside from old people

and people who really really really really like the KMT

[opaque coyote]

You're gonna need to download a VPN

Before going to the mainland

Because uh

Everything is fucking blocked

Even tiktok itself is technically blocked there.

[raven stone]

Yea, fair, it would be nice but I see why it is a dead idea.

[arctic talon]

I'm aware

I've visited mainland china before

tbh cultural osmosis already exists between Taiwan/China

[raven stone]

Yea they have a local version that is Brainrot free…

[opaque coyote]

I was kinda bored when visiting my grandparents back then because uhhhh

YouTube wasn't allowed. So I couldn't watch fucking Minecraft videos

[arctic talon]

xiao hong shu is its own brainrot

lol

[opaque coyote]

...if you've seen Chinese memes I can successfully say

No

[raven stone]

Ok fair XD

[opaque coyote]

They also have their own version of Twitter

[raven stone]

On both counts

[opaque coyote]

It is somehow even more viltrolic than ours

[raven stone]

lol

[opaque coyote]

I don't know how.

[arctic talon]

I am near illiterate in Japanese

I can read chinese though

[raven stone]

Imagine the world’s surprise when they learn CCP is doing the world Internet a favour by containing shit

lol

[arctic talon]

the great firewall doesn't even work

lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I heard. I don't really care either

[arctic talon]

well it does work, just not well at all

[raven stone]

Yea, people find ways around it 24/7

[opaque coyote]

Like just keep em separate at this point

Who fucking cares, it's been over 50 years

[raven stone]

And in all honesty a lot of Chinese law is like…well.
It’s there to be used if needed.
But they only really do anything if you actually start actively challenging shit.

[opaque coyote]

They contained the shit

And then made their own

And it's equally if not as bad

China even has their own wojaks

Pandajaks

[raven stone]

Lol

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-face-funny-face-meme-biao-panda-biaoqing-gif-12796342772249187433

Mostly based off of celebrity faces apparently

[raven stone]

“Not chatting anymore, typing is tiring”
🤣

[opaque coyote]

This one is still fucking funny

[raven stone]

Ok this one I actually haven’t seen.

[opaque coyote]

I think it's the face

[opaque coyote]

It goes to show

That even with a cultural separation along with a high physical distance.

We still have the capability to make funny faces

Why did that send 15 minutes later

[storm jungle]

discord moment

[rose thorn]

hey hows warhammer 40k this afternoon

IS THERE GREYKNIGHTS IN HH?!?!

wha

[dusk patrol]

Google Knights Errant

[rose thorn]

i swore there was 2 knight errant characters

where did he go

and, theres no army rules?

reads lex

oh they are like, more like deathwatch

than grey knights

damn

[storm jungle]

They are kinda the gay predecessor

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/Xlv0SK-vpow?si=pcKWrk-7wrOeZaia

How big are Bolter Rounds again?

Lemme search it up

.75 for standard

(although they're technically not even bullets)

I think the funniest part about this is that this rifle has a sporting exemption

So if you really wanted to, you can use it for hunting

Hunting Bears ig

[dusk patrol]

@arctic talon you seen the latest invincible episode?

[rose thorn]

i didnt realize wolverine is kinda a freakazoid

[arctic talon]

Yeah I’ve seen it

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-battle-beast-blood-fight-licking-lips-gif-27655460

[arctic talon]

Knights errant are a thing but they’re terrible and play nothing like grey knights

[rose thorn]

Damn

[arctic talon]

Cat moment

[dusk patrol]

Bros just loving his best life

[arctic talon]

He’s having a good time

[dusk patrol]

I wonder if he got captured just so he could fight some Viltrumites

Makes sense why he had a hard time finding some

[arctic talon]

they uh, they're not a functional army lol

💀

[rose thorn]

Ah

[arctic talon]

you use them as allies

Though maybe that might change eventually

[rose thorn]

Is their lore good?

[arctic talon]

uhhhh

its fine?

This is hilarious

considering no, they are not a full fucking faction(yet)

[queen laurel]

are they good allies?

[rose thorn]

BAUSVSBUABDUD

[arctic talon]

Meh

They’re not bad

[queen laurel]

aye better than nothing

[arctic talon]

genuinely feels like they got kicked to the curb

[rose thorn]

Magneto is amaizng

[rose thorn]

I LOVE MAGNETO

[rose thorn]

Watching X-men 97 is like

‘Oh this episode is okay but it has a cool cliff hanger, I wonder what the next episode will do-‘

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/xmen-children-of-the-atom-sentinel-win-xmen-children-of-the-atom-gif-23028611

[rose thorn]

LMAO EXACTLY

[opaque coyote]

Why the fuck is Magneto hot btw

He is like 60 years old but he has the body of a fucking 20something year old

Also his hair

His fucking hair is so glorious. That helmet not only blocks telepathic manipulation but also blocks his beautiful locks of hair from being unleashed onto this Earth

What kinda fucking shampoo and conditioner does he use Jesus christ

[paper haven]

Marvel Rivals understood the assignment.

[spare osprey]

ngl

he and Charles rock their shit

like look at those eyebrows

who does bros eyeliner too

[opaque coyote]

I don't usually say this

But

Fruity

[spare osprey]

EXTREMELY

[opaque coyote]

I just wish X-Men 97 didn't adapt the arc where Rogue cheats on Gambit with Magneto

Also it's depressing that

Dark Wing apparently went to Mark's 12th birthday party

Which implies that he was a family friend

Kinda paralleling Superman and Batman's genuine friendship

Which makes Omni-Man murdering all of the Guardians even more fucked

[spare osprey]

I was actually reading one of the comics just now

And he specifically says

The reason he killed them all so fast, was cause he knew if he actually had time to think about what he was doing

He couldn’t do it

Cause they were his genuine friends

[sharp pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/416253732498702357/1339891362304098304/GjmEGezWsAAxU3r.jpg?ex=67b05e92&is=67af0d12&hm=52048a0adb9e2d1bc024ad7feb0fdbcf26b4dd35c127ab2978d72997ebaa509e&

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[pine wedge]

Oh awesome that black women have one of these girlies authors now

That's what you call successful cultural pollination

[distant marsh]

Hey fellas what would be more on theme for a larper krieg armor user? A shovel or a dueling sword with skulls?

[dusk patrol]

True equality is when everyone has dogshit smut novels.

[dusk patrol]

Sword, shovel is a meme.

[distant marsh]

Got it

Thanks

Also what would be a proper weapon for a comissar? I got a shovel rn but I guess it is off theme

[shadow plover]

Power Sword

[distant marsh]

And only power sword?

[shadow plover]

well a bolt pistol

[distant marsh]

Oh I mean with the melee department

I'm well off theme in here then

[shadow plover]

Power Sword or a Chain Sword, almost all depictions have one or the other

sure they can use anything they want but that's what we see the most

[distant marsh]

Got it got it

[tough haven]

They’re probably entertaining at least, I mean come on, with titles like that you know it’s not taking itself seriously and that can be fun

Sometimes you just want dumb shit for a laugh

[late osprey]

depends on rank

shovels, knives, IIRC axes too, are all standard issue weapons to guardsman so basic infantry would be using them

knives probably most commonly though for obvious reasons

officers would get swords

[sharp pollen]

knife obvious reason - to run faster while stabbing air, to get closer to the enemy faster 🙄

[late osprey]

an NCO MAYBE could use a dueling sword, they do get all sorts of melee weapons on tabletop but it definitely would seem off given the pose imo

[late osprey]

https://tenor.com/fcDl4nlvCmo.gif

average guardsman first-person

[hallow saddle]

Hellbore with bayonet
And either shovel or sword, take your pick

Bayonets were the meme for ages, I don't actually know why it switched to shovel

[rose thorn]

I was about to say this is the worst warhammer model ever

But then there’s also

[shadow plover]

They fucking done did it

Truly the angriest 'Gron

[storm jungle]

Oh wow

[shadow plover]

Very good

[storm jungle]

ngl

he looks a bit skinny to me?

uhhh

Maybe its the angle

[shadow plover]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/uu8prgos/angron-ascends-and-the-conqueror-gets-its-captain-in-warhammer-the-horus-heresy/

[storm jungle]

Yeah idk

I kinda prefer the 40k one

the sculpt is badass but the proportions of the humanoid segments is really weird

[storm jungle]

also Lotara skipped leg day

[shadow plover]

I like that he had more human like features back then compared to the current one

[storm jungle]

It just makes it a bit goofy to me idk

[spring cairn]

you can tell he is angry because he is red

[storm jungle]

awful 💀

[rocky gale]

There’s no way that’s a real GW model, looks like someone made it themselves on HeroForge

[storm jungle]

Its weird because like

the "look" of th model is great

the actual person wearing the armor meanwhile lol

[shadow plover]

Angron's got a bit too much gribblies on him though

too much 'stuff'

[dusk patrol]

Idk I love

But god help those trying to store it for travel

[storm jungle]

Again too skinny.

hope this model breaks for a lot of people

[rose thorn]

I WANTED TO SAY

[rose thorn]

THIS LOOKS SO FAKE

[shadow plover]

I believe it's fine, the painter just put way too much focus on the lips

[rose thorn]

It’s the hands and face that make it look that way tbh

[shadow plover]

hands are fine imo

[storm jungle]

the face is deffo too human

but like its a primarch so not much to exactly say tbh

generic ahh dark souls boss

[shadow plover]

Mag was talking Lotara

[storm jungle]

same thing tbh

she has peg legs

Next

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-cat-shoo-biscuit-gif-8024642674144447563

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/bimbo-pouty-lips-weird-gif-17944011

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma985-funny-gif-26796051

[hallow plover]

He's transitioning

[storm jungle]

[hallow plover]

You don't go from human to typical devilman in a day

There's somethibg about the legs on that model

[storm jungle]

Which one

Lotara? lol

[storm jungle]

Zesty ahh

[hallow plover]

I didnt scroll up enough, i missed lotara

Them angry kneepads

[spare osprey]

I GOT MY WISH

Lotarra mini

Dope

[median star]

so is their a specific reason angron turned red or just "erm warp magic"

[storm jungle]

Magic.

also red = khorne

[queen laurel]

blood god divine blessing

[median star]

they shouldve turned magnus blue to spite him or something

[glossy sonnet]

angry

[barren prawn]

how do we know the emperor is even real? what if it was all malcador brainwashing everyone

[rocky gale]

How do we know I won’t explode you with my mind

[barren prawn]

because i will keep posting god awful takes

[queen laurel]

You're takes are so god awful they are an insult to god awful

[barren prawn]

my takes are simply too based

[gray umbra]

What if the emperor was actually alpharius

[humble shoal]

Hes omegon

[queen laurel]

If yours is the definition of based then a car crash killing five people is the definition of a birthday party

[humble shoal]

Horus was alpharius

Mortifactor as requested

[raven stone]

So it was Angron that broke the Warhammer Community page lol

[rose thorn]

Hey does anyone have pictures of deathwatch scouts

[arctic talon]

Power sword, chainsword, power fists

but power fists aren't in Darktide

[arctic talon]

Deathwatch in like Scout armor? no art depictions but there's some minis people have done

[rose thorn]

Gotcha

[arctic talon]

off of google

wait thats a full marine

lol

https://www.instagram.com/erik_swinson/p/C9C0W7ou7O-/?img_index=1

Tihis one

[hallow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/hokutonoken-fist-of-the-north-star-北斗の拳-kenilguerriero-raoh-gif-13922608

[arctic talon]

point being they're just scouts but older

with the DW shoulder pad

[rose thorn]

I wasn’t sure if DW even had scouts

[raven stone]

Not officially in the rules

But by lore they CAN deploy in scout armour if they feel it

[gray umbra]

Is there any benefit to scout armor with phobos being a thing

Outside of 1st gens not crossing the rubicon yet

[humble shoal]

Wasnt aware dw had scouts

Since they get already veteran marines

[rose thorn]

I guess space wolves can wear scout armor so I guess DW can too

[celest dome]

Why wouldn't SW have Scouts ?

[spring cairn]

@arctic talon for all the whining i read online i wasn't expecting to first try denial in dd2, i thought you were stronger big brain thing

[rose thorn]

In SW, they are veteran marines who ‘retire’ into being something similar to scouts

They also have scouts but they ahve the unique retire thimy

[arctic talon]

Ngl Denial really fucks people up who don’t think lol

But imo it’s pretty reasonable as an intro boss

[arctic talon]

Scout armor is more silent then Phobos armor

Scout armor has no servos

It’s not power armor despite being “powered”

[gray umbra]

Makes sense, i was curious if the benefits of power armor phobos just heavily outweighed scout armor carapace on protection alone

[arctic talon]

Yeah that’s fair

But scout armor is pretty much as sneaky as a marine can get while wearing armor

[gray umbra]

Yeah thats fair

[arctic talon]

Phobos is sneaky for a brick shithouse

[spring cairn]

ppl made it seem like first run was impossible without the upgrades

my diagnosis : major skill issue

[arctic talon]

Yeah no people are just bad lol

The starting party is kind of fucking nuts

You can beat the entire game with them

[gray umbra]

Its plague doctor, graverobber, highwayman and man at arms right?

All are pretty goated

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Grobber and MAA both have self sustain, damage and utility

PD has decent heals, DOTs and good damage

HWM makes shit die and has utility

[gray umbra]

I guess with denial you dont really need a stress heal

Or does maa have one?

[misty vector]

he does yeah

[arctic talon]

MAA has one yeah

Also you don’t need stress healing imo

It’s fun to go without it

Grobber also has a self stress heal later on

Assuming you hit the shrines you should unlock it early

[tough haven]

I usually play characters that generate stress so it’s kinda needed for me

[arctic talon]

Well that’s another story

Lol

[tough haven]

Also denial is kinda the tutorial confession

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

But people still find it hard for some reason

[tough haven]

Half distance, fights are toned down, and other changes

[arctic talon]

Act 2’s boss is also much more interesting mechanically imo

[arctic talon]

Fights are normal

You just get ordainment less

And no exemplar pre mountain

[tough haven]

DD2 is tough for people who aren’t used to the genes

[arctic talon]

I’m talking about people who’ve played 1

[tough haven]

I meant the scripted fights such as exemplar

[arctic talon]

And for some reason find 2 hard

2 is like much easier to pull apart due to tokens while being less solved imo

[tough haven]

Like for example, shrines provide weaker buffs

[tough haven]

I love 2’s combat way more

[arctic talon]

It’s way better

Lol

1’s combat is ass

Not even lowkey

[tough haven]

It’s not solved, and it’s easier to read due to tokens instead of just fucking math

[arctic talon]

Well

1 is solved as a game

[tough haven]

I really liked it at the time, until I got 2

[arctic talon]

Go fast, hit hard, stun

Everything boils down to those 3 core tenets

In 1 for better or worse

[tough haven]

If I could have 1s gameplay with two’s combat, it would be perfect

[arctic talon]

I do still enjoy 1

Tbh

[arctic talon]

Project iron crown

[tough haven]

OH WAIT KINGDOMS EXISTS!!!

[arctic talon]

Soon™️

If you want a long term campaign

[tough haven]

Kingdoms is pretty much that

[arctic talon]

With dd2 mechanics

Project iron crown is coming out someday

[tough haven]

Sure buddy

[arctic talon]

I need it

[tough haven]

Same, it’s better with mods

[tough haven]

I need mechanicus 2

NOW

[arctic talon]

Black reliquary is the other total overhaul I enjoy

[tough haven]

there has been NO news

[arctic talon]

I mean why would there be

I think it’s fine for devs to just not say anything tbh

[tough haven]

Because I want it

When they announced it, I kinda figured it was coming soon or was near completion

[arctic talon]

Well

It’s release date is still TBA

So I’m not sure what gave that impression personally

[tough haven]

Hope 😦

[opaque coyote]

So I have had the idea of like a retired custodes/Emperor's Eye disguising himself as like

A gigantic mutant

Kinda thought of him sorta hiding his armor underneath like

Rags or whatever

And adding a bunch of fake limbs (maybe as disguised mechadendrites?) to sell the disguise

Also thought about him being essentially the RE4 weapons merchant.

Because you gotta do something in your free time

"Got a selection of good things on sale stranger!"

[proven needle]

Retirement in 40k, is that a thing?

Only in death does duty end or something?

[gray umbra]

You can retire

[arctic talon]

It’s a thing, it’s just rare

People usually die before they get to the age where’s they’re allowed to retire

Some things are for life and you can’t really “retire” though

I.E marines

[storm jungle]

Also you kinda need to be in a prestigious position

and 99.9% of the time a noble lol

[gray umbra]

Or a pure icon of propaganda

[late osprey]

i dont remember where i heard this from, but some regiments are disbanded when their campaigns are finished and their people "retire" by settling on whatever world they just conquered/defended

i think by and large, people retire by going higher and higher up the foodchain where they essentially do less and less that matters

like i dont think the Lord Commander Militant actually DOES anything

[late osprey]

oh here we are

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Right_of_Settlement

[arctic talon]

The High Lords are mostly just

paper pushers

yeah

[late osprey]

at that point it's de-facto retirement if not literal, since you have next to 0 oversight

[arctic talon]

yeah

[opaque coyote]

Yes but you need to be prestigious

Although even with that Caveat 99% of the time

They die before they can

Custodes can also retire, but only if they feel like they can't guard the Emperor as effectively as they can.

And it's usually for pointless shit like

"My reaction time is 0.01 Ms slower. I must retire!"

Although tbf, they don't stop working for the Imperium.

Essentially, the become Eyes of the Emperor

Spying on planets, collecting Intel on it's state

And of course... Clearing out any Heresy

Usually Solo

[misty vector]

10 foot tall demi-god spying.... trying to blend into the crowd

[storm jungle]

Its also important to remember this Right of Settlement is also usually treated as a fishhook/bait.

[opaque coyote]

Tbf they usually do this by disguising themselves as mutants or abhumans.

Who are usually that tall

[storm jungle]

Most regiments will never see their promised settlement planets again unless they are lucky and their services are really needed.

[opaque coyote]

Height variance is surprisingly common in the Imperium

Also

Would you really want to fuck with somebody who's 10 foot tall?

[misty vector]

oh def not

just a funny thought

[opaque coyote]

If you want an even funnier thought

Imagine a Custodes trying to imitate an Ogryn

Since that's what one actually fucking did during the blood games

Imagine this eloquent warrior philosopher trying to talk as dumb as possible

[gray umbra]

"Zug zug" he says as he goes on his way to blow up the golden throne

[late osprey]

yeah i'd believe it, hell even the line "extreme demand for Imperial troops in the sector" basically implies that it's never happening

it's 40k, there's ALWAYS an extreme demand

"sure you can retire, just as soon as we're at peace :^)"

[storm jungle]

Yeah basically.

Most people like legit forget a regiment will get re-deployed and re-deployed until basically everyone in its is dead and has already been replaced by fresh troops.

Theres essentially no end to it which is pretty depressing and fits the bill lol

[late osprey]

"requiring a decade of successful service" the criteria is filled with caveats for a bureaucrat to totally fuck over a regiment with

"erm actually the 20-year campaign you fought failed to achieve all objectives so it doesnt count sorry off to the next warfront :^)"

[dusk patrol]

It mostly depends on the circumstances

[late osprey]

well im sure if the officer corps is really well-connected they can pull some strings

[dusk patrol]

Tanith didn’t get to use theirs cause they had the unfortunate time of being in the Sabbat Crusades and also were at odds with other regiments

[late osprey]

but it seems like the circumstances are designed so High Command can string a regiment along for as long as it wants

[storm jungle]

Pretty much.

90% of the time its very much probably never gonna happen

unless like the regiment is in high demand

otherwise its "who cares"

[dusk patrol]

Generally speaking during a major crusade it doesn’t seem likely that anyone is gonna be invoking it until it’s done

[storm jungle]

Then you gotta deal with if it will even get accepted.

(which it probably wont lets be honest)

[late osprey]

well lmao

if you're TOO good they wouldn't want you to retire anyway

[arctic talon]

tbh

[late osprey]

so they'd bullshit some reason to keep you in

[arctic talon]

most people did just fucking die in the Macharian crusade

as an example of the whole

"settle what you conquor" thing

[dusk patrol]

The point is to recolonize worlds which got mostly killed

[storm jungle]

Also that yep lmao

[late osprey]

right but there's 1001 ways to resettle a world in 40k, there's never a deficit of people

[storm jungle]

like theres very much mostly no happy ending for it

unless the regiment dudes are so old

[arctic talon]

Sometimes its useful

tbh

if a regiment is just very meh

[dusk patrol]

It only ever comes up in the Abnett books anyways mostly

[arctic talon]

Abnett moment

[late osprey]

it DOES happen, there's two actual examples

just the chances of it happening seem incredibly small and almost entirely arbitrary

rather than a guaranteed systemic thing

[dusk patrol]

The rules for it are pretty clear but it’s just hard to meet those rules and survive as a regiment, most active duty regiments conquering worlds aren’t living that long

And if they are they’re probably in a major crusade, plus it depends on who gets the credit

[late osprey]

i guarantee you the Departmento Munitorum considers a regiment of soldiers to be significantly more valuable than 2 million bumkins from Cornfieldius V that they can just force to move

[dusk patrol]

It’s not terribly common they’re conquering new worlds

[late osprey]

and the moments when there's actually suddenly no longer a demand in veteran regiments are going to be a matter of lottery-esque luck

considering the setting of 40k

funny thought is that Munitorum clerks probably have absolutely absurd performance measures like "How much ammo did you save in arranging this warfront" or "How many regiments did you assign in a day?"

[storm jungle]

as per the Tithes show yeah that checks out lol

[late osprey]

the clerk really wants his sanguinala bonus, so no retirement for you

[late osprey]

the rules can be interpreted in whichever way High Command desires, is the main thing here

[arctic talon]

I like the civil war thing

in Only War lol

Where the Administratum is like

keeping a civil war going because they get 2x as many tithes

[late osprey]

"successful service" can mean anything from not running away to having to complete all assigned objectives; likewise, "extreme demand" can mean anything from a Black Crusade to 'hey we REALLY need this planet trust me'

[storm jungle]

Im glad such circumstances dont exist IRL

[late osprey]

all it takes is one clerk to go "Hm you actually missed assigned objective 25.3c when you failed you remain at fighting capacity after the fact, so it WASN'T a successful service."

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/glowie-penguin-green-glowing-gif-21079513

[dusk patrol]

It’s political like everything else but the point is the circumstances for it to happen are pretty rare, it’s not treated as something which most will achieve, and a lot of regiments arguably wouldn’t want to even, Tanith is a special case where they want to because they don’t have a home to return to so it’s a particular goal for them.

Which is why it comes up a lot with them

The way it’s brought up it’s more something that happens at the end of a major crusade like the Macharian Crusade or Sabbat to reward the regiments, which are very rare events.

[late osprey]

right

you really just have to hope your regiment's commander wants to retire as much or more than you do

because he'll definitely start bribing if he wants a right of settlement

[dusk patrol]

Half the idea seems to be you’re recolonizing a world with a pretty badass regiment, which will ideally start a tradition leading to a similarly effective regiment raising from the world eventually, and the new governor and leaders of the world made up of the staff have shown some level of competence.

I think Gaunt mentions when they potentially have a shot at getting the rights to a world that they wouldn’t be setting up shop until after the Sabbat Crusade was over anyways.

[opaque coyote]

"I threw a rock at him!"

[late osprey]

no doubt the idea is sound

just like most things in the imperium, the implementation is assuredly fraught with injustice and corruption

[opaque coyote]

I am half convinced that Cain is still alive.

He just faked his death so that he can actually retire in peace

[dusk patrol]

He might be, but I doubt they’ll ever answer it

He’d be extremely old by now if he was

[opaque coyote]

Man would probably be running off of Rejuv and Tanna

[late osprey]

at a certain point i cant help but wonder to what extent age even matters, at least to High Command

eventually the bionics to keep a guardsman alive are going to be much too expensive, but like an officer?

"you've still got a brain innit, get back to work"

[dusk patrol]

300 is roughly the stated age where the rejuv can stop working and it’s inconsistent who survives from then

Ad Mech and augmetics tend to last longer but not many people are willing to go that extreme.

[opaque coyote]

Basically until the Rejuvenat stops working

Unless if you're part of the Mechanicus

[late osprey]

to a certain extent it would be less what you want and more how much High Command can squeeze usefulness out of you, i'd figure

if your in a position that requires a lot of physical activity sure they might just let you expire

but if you're a tactician or another general staff member, why would they let you?

[dusk patrol]

Not really how it works

Not to mention augmetics which let you survive that long aren’t exactly easy to get

[late osprey]

right, all the more reason your average guardsman isn't getting anything

[dusk patrol]

I’m saying for anyone not in the ad mech

[late osprey]

but again the aforementioned non-physical jobs are usually quite high-ranking in the Guard as well

[opaque coyote]

Probably but Rejuvenat has a limit of up to 300 like Eternal says.

Also Mechanicus shit is usually considered disturbing even for the wider Imperium

So they probably won't stick your brain into a jar or something

[late osprey]

i mean art shows that people are geared to the 9 in random bionic shit all the time

[dusk patrol]

Rejuv treatment is quite expensive already

[dusk patrol]

I didn’t say no one else got bionics

[late osprey]

i dont mean in the sense of like

they turn you into the horrific tech-priest freakazoids

but more like failing rejuv treatment doesnt seem like an excuse for getting permission to die if they can still get another few centuries out of you with conventional bionics

[dusk patrol]

There’s attempts to keep people alive but at a certain point Rejuv just fails and without extensive augmentations you’re not lasting typically

It’s a luck thing

[late osprey]

this is more what i mean

[dusk patrol]

And extensive augmentations mean basically being a tech priest

[late osprey]

if you're a naval officer or something, for instance, surely they'd just keep you on augmentations for as long as feasible

there's still that point for non-tech priests, yeah

[opaque coyote]

Extensive augmentations are usually only for the Mechanicus.

They're greedy as shit so they usually don't let many meat bags to get closer to the Omnissiah

[dusk patrol]

Even amongst the ad mech living that long isn’t common

[late osprey]

are non-mechanicus augmentations really not that effective vs rejuv?

[dusk patrol]

It’s hard to stress how people continuing to live becomes a crap shoot after a certain point regardless

[opaque coyote]

I think it also depends on your brain.

Like you can just

Outright go senile even with the augments

[dusk patrol]

We see Ad Mech living much longer with extensive augmentations

[opaque coyote]

And also dementia and all that shit

[late osprey]

my point is more just that it surely isn't up to the individuals themselves

[dusk patrol]

But that’s basically only what they get

[dusk patrol]

Yes and as I said it’s not really how it works

[opaque coyote]

There's a reason why many admechs are considered insane even by Imperials.

[late osprey]

more if your Imperial organization thinks they can get more value out of you

how does it work then?

[opaque coyote]

And that's because a lot of them are essentially Senile Old Men

[dusk patrol]

They give them rejuv until they die typically

[opaque coyote]

Combined with extreme faith and xenophobia (in both definitions)

[dusk patrol]

Maybe some augmentation but it’s basically never to the scale that the ad mech have

People also generally don’t want to die

Rejuv treatment is a privilege

[opaque coyote]

Shocking

Also isn't the main source of Rejuv literally just sucking the life force off of young ppl essentially

[late osprey]

oh we already have that IRL

[dusk patrol]

If you’re living that long and serving your whole life shockingly you’re typically not interested in dying

[storm jungle]

thats Warhammer Crime

Rejuv treatment is basically any nonsense the author makes up

[dusk patrol]

There’s a lot of different rejuv types

[storm jungle]

tech, bio-matter, some special plant, etc

so whatever you fancy tbh

its sci-fi mumbo jumbo

[dusk patrol]

Some like that are used for cheaper sales and black market purposes

[storm jungle]

so it doesnt really matter

[opaque coyote]

I think it usually lasts until your veins literally stop fucking working

[late osprey]

ironic, i'd have figured that in 40k, the higher-ups want to die far before they're allowed to with their bodies getting so fucked up from age/battle or whatever

[dusk patrol]

I mean I’m sure some do but we don’t really see that, these people already dedicate their lives to this

If you’re living 300 years already people tend to not suddenly decide they’re done. And you can just kill yourself

[late osprey]

i guess if you're the sort to want to tap out early, they wouldn't give you rejuv anyway

[opaque coyote]

People generally fear death. Even suicidal people do

[dusk patrol]

If you wanted to die it’s not a hard thing to arrange

[opaque coyote]

They just fear something else far more

[storm jungle]

getting Immortal from EP4 flashbacks

"thats the cowards way out"

[dusk patrol]

Well he was literally insane

[storm jungle]

Same thing

hes Lincoln so

[opaque coyote]

Also like

Bro just fucking crush your skull it's not that hard

[late osprey]

im sure there's plenty of cases where some bureaucrat is literally paralyzed and all he does is write his signature

[dusk patrol]

I blame Mark, dork never called

[storm jungle]

he was coping because he was nuts

[opaque coyote]

[dusk patrol]

Never visited with grandpa smh

[storm jungle]

"Just throw yourself at the sun or something" is CRAZY

[late osprey]

too much effort to re-notarize everything by letting him die so they just keep him on forced life support

[opaque coyote]

Tbf

Yeah

Like he literally shouted about wanting to die

So like

[storm jungle]

It would largely depend, a big running gag of the Imperium is if someone outlives their position they just get replaced.

[dusk patrol]

The thing is that at the end of the day nothing is cheaper in the Imperium than human life

[storm jungle]

jinx

The ultimate black comedy of it is that

[dusk patrol]

Mine is better

[storm jungle]

no

[dusk patrol]

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-yakuza-can-you-shut-up-shut-your-mouth-gif-9966065835841311517

[opaque coyote]

It might be the only resource that the Imperium have an abundance of

[dusk patrol]

It’s not the only but it has no value

Or very little

It’s like China but worse

[late osprey]

in a bureaucracy specific there's still some specific people who are way more important than they have any reason to be, for completely arbitrary reasons

"yeah this guy is the ONLY guy in 500 parsecs that can sign for this form sorry bud"

[opaque coyote]

"Shao Ling takes power. 300 million people die."

[dusk patrol]

Maybe, but as said, people tend to want to not die

[late osprey]

i think thats actually a side quest in rogue trader lmao

[dusk patrol]

Like I said it’s possible but the imperium it’s rare they’re keeping people alive already

[storm jungle]

the one where you gotta get Jae's stupid fucking signature

and wait in line for 10 hours

[late osprey]

yeah

[storm jungle]

stupid fucking office clerks

[late osprey]

"yeah we keep our SPECIFIC notarizers on opposite sides of the sector. good luck, asshole"

[sacred ginkgo]

I waited the entire time for that in iconoclast

[dusk patrol]

(This is still only the fifth largest loss of human life in Chinese history)

[late osprey]

those are the sorts of people i could see being forcibly kept alive

[storm jungle]

the worst part is its very realistic lol

[opaque coyote]

If this is what normal bureaucracy is like in the Imperium

Imagine the DMV

[storm jungle]

"Im here for this thing"

"Go sign that over there first

"Hey im here to sign the thing"

"Yeah but get it from there first"

"Im here to get the thing-"

"Go up there first"

[opaque coyote]

Imagine trying to get something serious like a spaceship

[late osprey]

i like how you miss the deadline if you do it

and have to try all over again

[sacred ginkgo]

I just paid the guy

[storm jungle]

why would you ever wait in line

fuck those cunts

[late osprey]

i waited a second time like a good imperial citizen

[storm jungle]

[sacred ginkgo]

The achievement

[late osprey]

the achievement

[storm jungle]

Gay.

[late osprey]

though i DID order my army of serfs to drag out the luxury couches

[sacred ginkgo]

And I thought it was really funny

[dusk patrol]

This is why we leave Jae to die

[late osprey]

are you really an Imperial official if you don't wait for 93 days for a stamp?

[dusk patrol]

Not a high enough ranking one obviously

I’m a rogue trader not a peasant

[opaque coyote]

The worst part is that even if I removed like two digits from every battle. China still consistently had many more deaths than Europe.

[dusk patrol]

No one kills the Chinese like the Chinese

[late osprey]

roboute guilliman coming back must've been a bureaucratic nightmare

imagine having to create a whole new designation purely for roboute

people probably got shot

[dusk patrol]

Tbh it sped things up a lot

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the guy quickly uh

Cleaned up some of the corruption

[dusk patrol]

The bigger issue was the 13th BC and Indomitus

[late osprey]

no i mean the simple process of having to accommodate for a guy who is essentially Emperor 2

[opaque coyote]

With murder

[dusk patrol]

But he cut a lot of red tape fast

[late osprey]

after 10,000 years of not having that

[dusk patrol]

Yes it made things faster unironically

[late osprey]

people DEFINITELY got shot and killed

[dusk patrol]

He just ignored a lot of protocol and rules and cut to the chase

[opaque coyote]

It made things faster.

It probably helps that he's like

THE best at managing Bureaucracy compared to the rest of the Imperium

[opaque coyote]

"Sir you need to-"

"shut the fuck up I am the Emperor's son"

"...yes sir"

[storm jungle]

"YOU WILL BE SILENT."

[opaque coyote]

"Now then, produce this STC fragment before I pass out from the amount of alcohol I have consumed."

"...how much..?"

[late osprey]

imagine having to explain that to your manager

hence the shooting-and-killing

[opaque coyote]

points to the literal pile of bottles

[dusk patrol]

That’s not so hard, Russ figured out how to get sloshed with only tribal level tech very fast