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aren't all the original super heroes hinted at still being sorta alive in season 1
Kate and Immortal
immortal is a bit of a wasted character rn imo
Unless they change it from the comics
Kate wasn't part of the Guardians
I'm assuming Jay is talking about ominimans
original killing spree
when did she "die"
he doesn't seem to have much wisdom for somebody who literally freed the slaves of america
i forgot
yeah S2 with the lizard league
Against the Lizard league
So unlike the comics no one died lol
since Rae didn't fucking die
speaking of which doesn't rexplode kill the guy with the gun
tbh, with her powers
after being shot
you'd have to try to die
that was such a cool scene man
and he's not treated as morally wrong lol
Tbf rex got fucking shot in the head and watched two of his friends "die"
still the show just glosses over that fact
he's also much weaker then someone like Black Samson/Robot
well yeah because that wasn't the focal point
of that season
that's what i mean by season 3 hammering the morals more
also idk anything about the comics but
mark is gonna have to fight the purple guy
100%
bug
omni man fucked a bug
and since viltrumite DNA is so strong he looks mostly human
Viltrumite DNA moment
yeah
Viltrumites are a eugenics program gone crazy
pretty much
viltrumites dont even know the concept of recessive genes
yeah they killed everyone who had those
which is not how evolution works but it makes a good story
it sets them up as completely evil
Yeah
literally eugenicist totalitarians
Gene pool moment
they killed him because he could only throw a car 100 meters instead of 103
Skill issue
at 8
i love how mark keeps getting stronger every season but the villains do too
if he had strong viltrum genes then he would have been able to do it smh
Mark is called Invincible because he gets beat to shit and comes back
He couldnt spot some bum in a theatre blowing out the back of his head so beats me honestly.

what if he let it happen to ditch that persona
LOL
Yeah he's smiling and looking back at him iirc
Immortal is basically Big E which helps
Immortal is more moral then Big E
(personality wise especially)
that means
He also has a pretty big inferiority complex
he's just so strict for somebody who lived for the entirety of humanity's existence
immortal is turkish
No hes not
he has no mustache
you can tell that he doesn't feel comfortable when he isn't the strongest person in the room
exactly my point
Also no yeah
and he often isn't lol
hes talking shit when no viltrumite is around to fucking rip him in half 
Mark would never
he's pretty weak this season tbf
he was capable of denting omni man
its been 3eps
mainly this lol
like that alone puts you way above others
They're smart
they realised even viltrumites have nervous systems
also i do like that the excuse for why it worked is mostly because they were under strength since members left
Battle Beast showing up season 1 is still hilarious
Battle Beast is fucking hilarious
who?
Mfw Kingpin hired Thanos to beat the shit out of Spiderman
the furry
Basically the Thanos of that universe
Hes really important later on
guy is like this shit is beneath me and leaves
Battle Beast is like
mistah beast
He’s way stronger than any Viltrumite
the strongest fucking person in the setting lol
speaking of ripping things in half I still love the scene in the ||guardians HQ and the Reanimen and mark||
"i have this really strong guy, wanna fight?"
^^^^
mfw when im about to gut a underhive mastermind criminal
battlebeast is an Alien
he has a custodian
It’s honestly the most bizarre thing in the series
idk but machine head's autotune is awesome
Machine Heads voice is so good lol
I love how its like
never explained
its so funny
it makes it even funnier
also he sort of fits with the lineup
of like
Goofy C-list looking villains and heros
I kNoW where your fAmİlY LiVeS
he found battle beast's contact card on the ground
It’s literally like if Black Mask called in Darkseid to tussle with a young justice league or whatever
Or like some underhive criminal mastermind has a Eye of the Emperor as one of his goons
its like "wait who is this person-"
gets demolished
that's what it means when ur parents tell you you need to build connections
Mfw I get my fucking spine imploded
ribcage smashed
so i dont want to be spoiled but does he even know how strong viltrumites are
It’s more like, some underhive ganger has the Lion teleport in and fight a rival gang
Battle beast? yes
battle-beast is like a primarch-tier threat
not a huge spoiler but he's from a eugenics program
ah a common thing in this setting
even allen the alien
After the Viltrumites did it everyone else caught on
Yeah hes literally fucking around
the true moral of the story is that eugenics creates demi gods if done on aliens
i think the moral of the show is eugenics are awesome
💀
i'll bet you the mauler twins are a result of some kind of lab shit too
the moral of the show is get a mustache
well yeah
not mutts
but still
anyways point being Invincible is weird about Eugenics lol
it treats it like a monstrous thing but also
like
it works
you know
Bang a bug
the fact that it works in the setting is weird
Purple human baby
since irl eugenics just doesnt
this is an awful thing but everyone does it and it works everytime
the ability to fly
also I can't believe they got Peter Cullen for Thaedus
he hatched from Omniman's left ball
This shit is going to go hard as hell
next question
Nice
I don't have a woman version of this
STOP THIS
Is it like that one anime
shapesmith's voice actor is still the funniest pick for me
With the high schoolers and the giant bugs
world's first gooner shooter
also I can't fucking belive kregg is pronounced Krieg
fucking goons
extra spicy greg
Glad im not the only one picking that up
i legit had instant 40k PTSD
i cant wait for allen to kill a viltrumite
genuinely why lol
its so weird
I liked when that guy revealed to Allen he's a viltrumite by just showing him he had a mustache and not a beard I liked it a lot
like what is wrong with Kregg
the council dude
I keep forgetting Allen is voiced by Seth
forgot his name
it made me wheeze
this show has the weirdest cast
which is crazy to me
i do like how convincing a beard disguise is for a viltrumite too
Like what happens if Allen goes to earth and finds some slightly ripped guy with a mustache
the show will never explain why viltrumites look identical to humans
it does explain this later
lol
like waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay later in the comics
Viltrumites are the results of a eugenic program done on earth 100 years ago
close yeah
they then eugenized their eugene again
Eugene Krabs
Interesting lore excerpt for the Iron Hands.
iirc its like something about a lost colony + common ancestor or something
Its like so minor and doesnt' even matter
I'm not sure why its even mentioned lol
alright yeah
all that because the author was too scared to make Omniman look like a freaky alien
i wonder if they have weird quirks like they piss from a different hole
‘‘Well, I reckon that depends on the manner of your death,’ said Jathrac. ‘You’ve a progenoid tucked away in there too, friend. If I get it back to your brothers, that’s you passing on the torch. You can dine at the All-Father’s table with your head held high.’
‘Negative. My flesh was found wanting.’
‘That’s not the way it works, old timer. Now open up.’
‘Status of sarcophagus clasp unit: disabled.’
‘Disabled, eh?’ said the Wolf Priest with a sigh. ‘Well, I’ve seen this done more than once.’ Jathrac pulled out his plasma pistol from its holster of walrus hide, pressing the maxis-node on the gun’s underside whilst intoning the chant of unbinding.
‘Do not open the sarcophagus, brother Wolf,’ said the Dreadnought sombrely.
‘Why not?’ growled Jathrac impatiently.
‘I am not worthy of the rite.’
‘For Russ’s sake. There are billions of voydwyrms out there, Radamarr. I have no time to play confessor. Let’s get you flasked.’
‘No!’ shouted the Dreadnought, its vox so loud that dust shook from the vaulted ceiling above.
Jathrac tucked the fat barrel of the plasma pistol under the lip of the sarcophagus. He shielded his face to avoid the blast of energy and the subsequent burst of amniotic steam that would leave the Dreadnought’s crippled pilot naked inside. Gritting his teeth, he pulled the trigger. The sarcophagus flew open with a deafening bang.
Nothing came out but a blast of warm, stale air.
Jathrac sniffed once, nose and forehead wrinkled in confusion. His horror mounted as he turned back to the yawning sarcophagus that had swung open before him. The Dreadnought’s interior contained a mass of wires, a few pitted bone cogs… and nothing else.
‘What in the name of Russ?’
Expediency,’ said the Dreadnought, its vox-tone flat.
‘Abomination!’ shouted the Wolf Priest, his plasma pistol whipping round with a whine of recharging power cells.
Suddenly the vault went pitch black. There was a whirr, a crunch of ceramite, and then silence. "
-from Iron Soul.
i want to see the immortal showing off his strength at some point
i think his powers are cool
oh yeah the dreadnoguht one
I love it
doesn't he have the most mundane powers ever
yes and i like that
based on the pacing of the comics you'll see it soonish
unless
they slow down really hard
in which that case yeah idfk
you dont see a lot of super heros who just have regular stuff
Breaking news
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Also Helfathers exist which also have zero biological material
bulletproof maybe
i'd be happy with just super strength
it's like the most generic power
Although, it does make me wonder whether the Dreadnought was transferred into being completely metal
Or simply an AI masquerading as the person who was meant to be placed there.
Bullet proof is generic mc genericman
the iron hands turned one of their bothers into Silica Animus
is the implication
isn't he just hard to kill
i like not batman's powers
not batman's power of the SHADOW REALM
darkwing 2 is fun
it's like that guy in hxh
Bulletproof is just really durable and has super strength yeah
the show does reference batman at some point too is the funny thing
- flight
Tbf, it's like Vanilla.
Vanilla isn't Vanilla because it's just boring. It's because a majority can agree it tastes good
Same thing with super strength, bullet invulnerability
All that junk
what else do you need man
did they show bulletproof fly ?
also his big thing is absorbing kinetic energy
hence the name
bulletproof
get it
yeah
how can he do that
fly?
So basically a copy of their mind rather than a transfer
we dunno lol
Similar to how Cawl made a simulation of Gulliman
he uses it as energy for his body
its never really explained how in the comics
but he doesn't need to eat
oh interesting
as long as he gets the shit beaten out of him
he can sustain himself on kinetic energy lol
Also if you think about it flying is a fucking annoying power.
guy never shits
flying in the show is treated as being able to push yourself on space itself
like there's actual kinetic impact
True but there is the possibility that if you go fast enough it just
Does not work.
Like if you're going Superman type fast.
Then again, if you're going that fast, you probably have some type of invulnerability
and they sometimes "step" in the air
don't worry
become an ace combat protaganist
become the first bloodless human
able to resist infinite Gs and never suffer from G loc
the show does address that humans can't be carried too fast or their skin would rip
I mean that's how viltrumites do it which we can assume is biological? But the immortals stuff is like space magic or something idk I'm pulling shit out of my ass
from the air drag
will we learn what gave him power
he got stuff from a weird ass burning plant
that blue orb thing
Good version of vandal savage
the orb got his ass
Tbf the reason why is because Omni Man kinda killed his girlfriend
Killed all of his friends
that's a good point
Kinda makes you pissed off no matter what tbh
Also living for 1000s of years isn't good on the old mental health
but he's lived for thousands of years this can't be his first loss
Also apparently the dude was fucking Lincoln
The Flaxans was about to conquer Earth but failed to do so. Omni-Man teaches them how to properly do it.
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just look at how depressed wolverine gets
Ominiman gaming
Faked his death
Unfortunately the pain of losing a loved one literally never gets old.
Mf also has only been around for 200
Wolverine just needs to get over it and try out jerkmate
The only one who he was matched with was Deadpool

i'd take immortality without the shitty fucking gotchas like not having invincibility
Seriously that fight scene in the car was basically a hatefucking innuendo
immortality sucks cause one day the sun will explode
or you can be trapped on the sea floor
wahwahwah
just build a rocket ship
immortality is awesome
Vandal savage and that one storyline
you can literally just wait out the interstellar travel
Where he is stuck on earth with big ants
if the sun explodes idc i'll just float in space like Kars
I would accept immortality if there was a way to like
End it easily.
Like I have a button or something that ends it if I wanna finally die.
deep pull
just download games on your phone and set off for the 4000 year journey to alpha centauri bro
I couldn't do that cause suicide sends you to hell you know
Sewerslide is funny though. God will forgive trust


Bro if you're immortal you'll probably end up committing so much sin your ass is going to hell regardless
viltrumite steve harvey
nah
i'm different
Can always repent
The Viltrumites are literally just bullshit incarnate
They can hold their breath for literal months
That's how they travel through space while maintaining oxygen.
Literally just take a deep breath
i'd go to congress and be older than everybody eventually

which means i become president or something i think that's how the US works
Your boy Justin Trudoodoo got caught on an open mic discussing how becoming a state is a real possibility today
Eugenics
I'll welcome you with open arms Jay
Nah if I was Vandal Savage/DBZ type immortal I'd probably just remove congress
Fuck em
you and what army
The US military could defeat any superhero
i'm immortal, they can't stop me
oh the US army. that's a pretty good army
||ignoring the fact that it's likely that the purge didn't give them any benefit||
i'll burn my maple syrup before submitting
Except it did lmao they show it in the comics and the show
Like seriously the cutscenes show that all the Viltrumites had their power set.
Flying and all that shit
yes but they got even better
You can turn maple syrup into improvised napalm
Invicible sucks, if he's invincible then why can I still see him?
does it act as the binder?
They basically killed half their population for fuck all. The smart atoms were already there.
In everybody
We should make NATO more like the Federation in Project Wingman, where they start wars and then escalate them 
No it really worked
sugar is very good for making effective sticky burning liquids
hot tip if you boil water and put some sugar into it you will have a weapon capable of giving third degree burns
his voice actor made this joke and i hate it seeing you make it here too
Like in the comics, ||Mark literally became the most powerful at the end of the series due to his experience.||
hot water already does this
GETOU-
it doesn't stick
LOL
yo
you can wipe it off
spoilers
It’s a world of Warcraft joke
chill tf
Sorry
idgaf
Series is 20 years old no such thing as spoilers
lmao don't spoiler it it was a joke
Dont apologize, kill him
ofc the protag wins
Okay
the hot sugary water will stick to the skin and keep burning the individual, solidifying and then ripping off the skin
Prospero burns in project Wingman as well 
What’s everyone’s favorite kind of toilet paper
it's still capeshit
This is the second time prospero has burned
Pretty good capeshit though
the orange
I like capeshit
like Kruber would say
better than average
Hopefully the show fixes some of it's flaws.
Because the comic is a bit ass at times
Generally I think the show actually improves on MOST of the comic
The only exception being Amber
But that's because she went from being a non-character to being a bitch
non flushable wipes
I honestly think the worst part was her knowing that Mark was a superhero all along
It would have made more sense if she thought he didn't care about the relationship
tbh
Because if Amber didn't know, then that makes most of her concerns excusable.
Raaaaah I love when viltrumites use their hands as blades
yeah
on god
i completely forgot when mark broke up with girl
but thank fuck
like that relationship was not going to work
I think my favorite part was Omni Man basically using physics to fucking destroy that planet. Like of course something going at over light speed would probably destroy a planet
I really like when mark and omni man stop holding back it's cool and tickles the lizard part of my brain
Mark actually gets his shit beaten LESS in the show which is funny
He suffers less
Honestly, I like when main characters have interesting romances and relationships more than anything
And people still tjhink its too much lol
he did not get bodied enough by Doc Seismic Round 3 lol
I've been reading red rising and when a certain character had sex with another character I almost stood up and cheered
Like when Mark fights the Viltrumites when Omni Man gets freaky with the bugs.
Originally he gets his shit kicked in.
But he actually wins against one of them in the show.
mark exploding the bots was very satisfying
i want him going ape shit more often
we don't get the iconic panel where he's getting punched in the face lol
since he's actually winning against Thula
LOL
I think it's better this way because it shows that it isn't just a complete crubstomp. That he is powerful. Also makes more sense for him to be left alive
Viltrumites respect strength after all
With girl
because he has thousands of them this time
They're expendable and have decent strength
https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdank/comments/1im9tlo/leandros_be_like/
I quite appreciate people 'defending' Leandros
She’s my favorite character
Bots got upgraded.
Mark is less powerful than Omni Man.
Also Omni Man did get distracted by 3 of them.
Girl
a show of force
Cecil doesn't understand de-escalation
or the way Mark sees their relationship
Cecil thinks Mark sees it as a boss coworker thing
When Mark sees Cecil as like an uncle lol
or a very close family friend
Again, poor fucking Mark man.
Yeah like I get Cecil in the situation, but saying “mark calm down bro” while your zombies are beating on him
Horrible plan
is this cross over real or a meme
they totally misunderstand each others relationship with eachother lol
i hope mark understand Cecil is completely reasonable at some point inshallah
Real
Real
WHAT
And canon
HIASFUBHJF
But yk what they say
"SUFFERING BUILDS CHARACTER."
Mark got sent to Fortnite
by Angstrom levy
in the show
he literally flies in with a fortnite gun
And he then beat him with a sniper rifle
LMAO
lol
Its a fun joke
fucking really?
its a sniper
And in the comics, Mark actually gets a pep talk by Spiderman.
Then he meets Batman, and spider man in the comics but they had to change it for legal stuff
Yeah it's on frame for like half a sec
Agent Spider
I think it's also in the show but replaced with LEGALLY DISTINCT INSECT MAN
i did not notice
multiverse excuse
this isn't spider man
its Agent Spider
i was gonna say 'its so funny when they put characters who dont kill/wouldnt even be involved in violance being in shooter games because it feels so fake'
I KNOW IM CRYING
He actually mentions the multiverse, little nod to the movies
i mean tbh, the "violence" in fortnite is as fake as it gets
i think batman pisses me off the most and i sitll complain about it
Kinda wish the original was kept but I get why it wasn't.
yeah i immediately thought of it when i saw him
It's literally as kid friendly as possible without replacing the guns with fucking
Nerf guns
also the iron giant being a playable character in smash bros with even worse copy right issues
hurts
RIP
it died, revived, and its dying agian
Fortnite is literally the most unserious thing ever, cause what do you mean I can have a squad consisting of Goku, Mariah Carrey, camera guy from skibidi toilet and fuckin anakin skywalker
no it literally is getting killed
lol
WB is taking it out back
lmao
and executing it
Admittedly was fun for having the PPG beat the shit out of people again
But yeah.
again
shame because it had shaggy blanco ultra instinct 1% real poder
It isn't a good game
got the concord special
Was fun though
Cringe
yet another W for fighting games that aren't always online
They were gonna introduce a bunch of other shit too, I honestly just want them to release the voice recordings they have stocked
no refunds i bet
Give me Johnny bravo talking to Batman
the best fighting games are the ones you don't play and just watch the cpu beat the shit out of each others instead
platform fighters need more competition lol
i quite like smack studio
Super smash didn’t add eggman it’s dead to me
peak
also i dont trust the life span of rivals of aether 2
i heard its good
but im taking a step back
but modding 10 billion characters in and hosting a cpu tournament is where it's at
rivals of Aether 2 isn't going to die like Multiversus since it has offline and peer to peer
so 
my favorite fighting game literally looks like this on Steam lol
they don't even have good cav until t4
Human torches team up is crazy
unironically one of the most boring ass factions
💀
I don't even hate them because of the usual stupid memes
they're just boring
they need stuff badly
it still shows they were not intended to be playable at the very beginning
minus the first episode the other two are very good
or well about as good as you can get i guess
I've been getting back into custodes and talons in general, and got reminded of the second episode of tithes and the awesome lictor fights
its very neat stuff
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This better not suck
rlly good me thinks
If only
the same guy had a really really good unofficial 2 part thunder warrior story a couple months ago
This is some 40k-ass shit
This shit goes hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXTR-QNGUt0 yeah it does
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Mustard does a lot of videos on these wacky and important vehicles in history
incredibly stupid idea
which is not surprising from the US military
it's like the 3rd time they've played with the concept/tried it
and they'll probably try out railguns again in a few years when they forget the amount of money they've wasted
don't have to be very smart to get government funding
Nah they skipped railguns lmao
I know of the testing raaaaaaaaaah
i hope powered exoskeletons dont end up being a funding scam as well
I'm talking how they just skipped over railguns and are committing to lasers fully it seems
Ace combat reference
railguns were a dumb concept in the modern age since a cruise missile will win against any projectile launcher lol
Yeah
those lasers are for those cruise missiles
Tbh the lasers are also like
Probably not bad at hitting another ship if the need ever arises
ships dont even shoot eachother in visible range
cruise missiles have that much range
this is the HELIOS system which is for drones and other aerial threats
plus a laser wont melt steel from kilometers away
certainly not a ship hull at least
we're not even close to that level
it's a cost effective solution to drone/plane/missile spam
lasers win yet again
did you know a laser can fuck up a tank
you can fry all the sensitive sensors the crew uses to see outside with a powerful laser
Neat
blind crew = useless tank
Jay ru in DOGE
So is Elon 💀
canadian
almost like...
cadian
Have u ever seen them in the same room
Both from a sad broken planet
i'm not a racist groyper so no
Are you not? Thought that was requirements of being a warhammer fan
Si
DOGEoJayneous
Either this or a trans furry there is no in between
jeep mounted nuclear rocket launcher
and as we see that was one of the tamer ideas
Kropp was shot in the gut by a sniper, as he bled out he pleaded for someone to help him. His cries were cut off by a high powered lasgun discharge to the forehead.
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Herker rounded a corner and encountered a patrol of heretics at least two dozen strong. She was caught in the open and failed to react to their fire. She was killed instantly.
Darktide mission description?
It’s a secret signal
Q needs us
Brothers take up arms
Or u will surely all b vaccinated
lmao
Havent seen this format in a long time
Gonna take a note from the folks that hate femstodes and just ignore the last couple retcons (yellow las and wraithbone)
Then go about my day
yellow las? it rings the bell of just one of my braincell, so its hard for me to decide, do i remember it or no
please tell where was the yellow las
According to Elite, in some of the older art
Ive just been hearing a bit about GW doing some retconning on stuff, and I thought the yellow las stuff was also relatively recent
It’s ok, well acted and all that, idk if the story makes a ton of sense but
It works
Personally I just like to think that it's based on the power of the Lasgun
Default settings is red
Higher power makes it piss yellow
Thats a fair way to interpret it
There's some yellow las bolts in some older art
thats about it
alright I think I've posted enough
point being it does exist its just like
weirdly absolutist lol
Can we retcon anyone that complains about retconning
Anyways war com is like
terrible at lore anyways
they've gotten a lot of stuff wrong before
so I just ignore it

No
I just know some people already saved this thing and getting ready to link it in an argument
ngl i thought they where firing bullets when i first saw that art
which is how i learned autoguns are a thing lol

Which Xenos race is the biggest threat to Humanity? Tyranid? Orcs?
also "Xenos" is High Gothic, so would the casual world/Low Gothic word used just be "Alien"?
that would make sense
at least you can outwit orcs, you can sow chaos, you could even trick them to start infighting
or you can kill key targets and wait for the waagh to cool down
but for Tyranids? what can you even do... are there any "queens" that you can kill for the horde to disperse or?
Think the largest node organism IoM encountered is the Norn queens or something and even then that is not the actual Hive Mind.
Also a complete side note, but do the Tau not care for cooperation with humanity?
Like they are fine with the human race existing (Unlike the other way around), BUT they still want to rule over humanity?
Like I am guessing the average Joe's quality of life under the Tau would be much better than under the Empire, but you would still be under the rule of the Tau as an inferrior species?
So there is some unknown organism somewhere out there that is the single "mind" that controls all Tyranids?
That is what has been theorised but never outright confirmed by lore
I wouldn’t say there’s one for sure, Necrons, Orks and Nids can and are huge threats for different reasons
Right now it’s probably Nids
But it fluctuates and it wouldn’t take much for Necrons to become it or Orks to build momentum and become it
So "individual" Tyranids are not really individuals? Theorised that they are all just controlled by a single mind?
Is Necrons only weakness really that they are fewer in numbers?
individual nids are often
Mutations or custom made by the hive mind
but they still obey the hive mind because well what's the use of having a tyranid that has independence
well that doesn't really matter because of their celestial orrery
and you know incredibly funky tech
Do they obey when commanded or do they completely lack a consciousness of their own and are more like "drones" directly controlled by the hive mind?
they obey the hive mind and they're basically more advanced
so some Tyranids do have a consciousness of their own
nope
oh
they are basically drones that can think for themselves
so all of them are just bodies controlled by the single hive mind
huh...
take Death leaper
this guy is smart enough to exploit the enemy's weaknesses
and can operate relatively speaking on his own no problem
he's more of an individual than your average lictor
but since it's still a tyranid it still obeys the hive mind
okay I am a bit confused
so this Death leaper has a mind of its own? Like its own thoughts that are separate from the Hive Mind, BUT at the end of the day it is always obedient to the Hive minds commands?
no
I am so confused haha
at most its own thoughts is basically just
fulfilling the hive minds command
in the 1st place a tyranid is incapable of having its own thoughts separate from the hive mind
even the swarm lord which is the most individualistic of the bio forms is still bound to the hive mind
but there is some type of mind in there that experiences all that, like its not just the Hive Minds consciousness experiencing everything through this guys eyes?
like he has a consciousness, but its like 99.9% just following the hive minds control?
yes
it most of the time it will think for itself
ooooh I understand now :D
on how to do it's job
think of it as basically as a perfect drone
Can follow orders and can think enough for itself to outsmart your enemies but not enough to the point that it's its own being
So the hive mind would give it commands to attack a certain place for example, but then this dude would usually think for itself on how to infiltrate said place
in combat if its going to swipe with its left or right claw
and dismantle it properly yes
thats up to him most of the time, right?
yes
It's basically just this remember they are smarter to fulfill the job given to them better
but not smart enough to be their own beings
Does the Tyranid hive mind work through telepathy or pheromones?
it's psychic
I am guessing from the individual Tyranid's point of view, it wouldn't feel like some mindcontrolling overlord trying to issue you unresistable commands, but more like just pure instinct that compels you to act and nothing feels better than to obey that instinct in whatever it calls you to do (obviously said instinct is so strong to these very undeveloped brains that there is no way to even resist it)
oh so like the Tyranids utilize the warp too?
well no
they have creatures that use the warp but
the hive mind is a complete byproduct of the tyranid race
so psychic powers can be used without the warp too?
Does it have any range limit? Have there been any ways to interrupt it?
The Hive Mind is the gestalt collective consciousness of the entire Tyranid race, a psychic embodiment of the Tyranid instincts and racial imperatives to devour and destroy.
Also do we know at all how intelligent the Hive Mind is? Like in its actions can we see any kind of "big picture"?
Does it just want to eat any meal big enough or does it have some grand strategy of conquer?
or does even the Hive Mind work purely off of an instinct for survival and reproduction?
it's incredibly intelligent
even seasoned commanders can struggle from it because it can adapt so much
"but instead it is a grand agglomeration created from the psychic presence of untold billions of Tyranid creatures. It is a nightmarish and unfathomable intelligence that allows Tyranids to coordinate and adapt as if every Tyranid creature is merely a part of a single massive organism, one which is utterly focused on consuming all other life"
oooh so wait... it's not some "overlord" being, like it's own physical creature somewhere, but just all Tyranids combined?
Yeah I like to think that it's probably just a power thing
Red in flames is the least "hot"
ooooh I see
basically
Then to goes to orange, then yellow, then white, and then finally blue which is the hottest
So I like to think that the yellow lasers are just the Lasguns switched to max
While red is just the default power setting
Yes, the Tau are on top
All of the tau’s client species are second class citizens
But in most cases being a second class citizen under Tau is a better life than living in the Empire, right?
Like do the Tau have some principle in not terminating/enslaving Humanity? Do they have some principles of treating other races fairly?
Tau don’t believe in slaves
And they don’t like genocide of sapient species as long as they don’t do some horrific thing and exclusively do it
like would they just oppress Humanity as hard as they could, IF they could? Or would they treat all of humanity better than the Empire even if they had unlimited power?
They wouldn’t oppress Humans worse then their other client species
so they would be fine with Ork genocide?
Tldr self governance(generally)
Yeah
Orks, Space marines, tyranids and dark eldar
Are on their genocide list
ohh I see, Humans don't really use Xeno slaves either, do they? It's kill on sight, right?
Yeah
Really? Space Marines? why is that?
The tau do have prisons and labor camps
Marines are designed for only war, they don’t do anything but war
They don’t have a place in a peaceful society
Which is the end goal of the tau’va
But is slavery of other humans (excluding prison camps) sanctioned in the Empire?
The Tau have prisons and labor camps for political dissidents
So yeah
I mean any society needs its protectors and warriors, right?
If you’re a dissident you’ll be re-educated
Not people who exclusively do it and are designed exclusively for it
no I mean with Humans, like does the Empire enslave Humans that haven't been convicted of any crime
or well
I mean I guess you could get servitorized for some minor work place mistake lmao
Worst case scenario you get resettled in the ass end of nowhere away from your family
If you haven’t done anything wrong
so what's the "catch" with the Tau? It's Grimdark afterall, sounds too good to be true
They’re still an authoritarian state
That practices eugenics
And are a heavy surveillance state
Have you’ve played helldivers 2? Or helldivers
The tau empire is like super earth
Except more evil
Do they allow for "free expression"?
So is social behaviour etc. super controlled or?
There’s barely any social mobility for people who aren’t in the Tau caste system
really?
Art and such is allowed as long as it doesn’t violate the tau’va
also the whole "greater good"; does that just mean "A universe with no wars, only peace and coexistence" ?
As far as we know super earth doesn’t brutally experiment with weapons on its own people
had a theory from some guy in other server, that all that ELDAR ORE retconning if for Votann to go and take it
or is it just a sham for "Tau rules all"
The votann wouldn’t be interested in wraithbone because they can’t use it. Also they get along with the craftworld eldar
One moment
Let me grab the tenets of the greater good
BRB
So better quality of life than you had back in the Empire (for the average Joe) but it's all you're ever gonna get
The greater good involves perfect harmony and the combining of each cultures strengths to counter the many weaknesses other cultures have
Though the greater good is essentially cultural genocide
The culture is subsumed and integrated and then everything that doesn’t fit in gets thrown out the window
Yep
"ate' the knife ears... ain't racist, just don't like em' "
That doesn’t even apply in 40k

But the Tau empire are pretty evil lol
Their evil is just more benign
It slowly creeps in hidden under a nice exterior
They’re also like
Still an expansionist empire who’s hungry for more land and have a dominant race who practice eugenics
Sorry but its gonna be the opposite
Hand over your ores stuntie

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Get better material
Dwarf users not be obnoxious challenge: impossible
I don’t even get why people say it in 40k
When it’s not even relevant
Like the CWE and LoV get along decently well
Lol
because elf-insult is elf-insult
its not that deep

so basically Ancient Rome? "Everyone can come... as long as they bow to Rome. Everyone gets treated under the law... as long as they are a Roman citizen. Your gods? Yoink, ours now"
Yeah to an extent lol
I mean no
But religion is banned
its literally just modern china
Also the Marines literally have a GENETIC hatred for Xenos
Like literally genetic
Zhong guo tecunology
well it is not really "genocide" more like ultimate cultural melting pot
Even Chaos Space Marines absolutely refuse to fucking work with Xenos
they kill off cultures that aren’t compatible though
sounds very idealistic and naive but beautiful
I mean that's what everyone does
They hate Xenos so much that even after becoming a fucker worshipper of Chaotic Gods.
They still refuse to even consider working for them for 0.01 seconds
Yeah comparing them to super-earth is actually very accurate
but they are less goofy fascist about it
its a lot more "orderly"
I mean I guess... but would you rather live under Tau or live under the Empire as an average Joe?
Empire for sure if I was higher on the ladder, but a commoner? bruh 💀
Tau deffo
The issue is that uh
It's partially due to how the 40k universe works. You kinda have to be an asshole on some point
The tau are a totalitarian state with an oligarchic caste
Tau even as an imperial noble
Lol
You can climb in human society
You just can’t climb into tau society
living in Tau society is basically just china/south korea rn on steroids but id still take it over the Imperium
mfw you can get assassinated at any point
Mfw my third cousin twice removed shot me 22 times
CWE? LoV?
Craftworld Eldar, leagues of votann
Craftworld Eldar (High Elves) - Leagues of Votann (Dwarves)
At least you get access to cool shit like power armored mechs if you're a high status noble.
so it might be worth it



