Lilith isn’t super hedonistic
#40k-lore-chat
forest orbit
yeah shes just a thrillseeker
forest orbit
KEK that
opaque coyote
Yeah tbh I think a lot of the lower ranked Drukhari.
Like the slaves and shit. Probably would stop being Drukhari if they had the chance
arctic talon
She’s a straight razor
opaque coyote
They don't
arctic talon
She doesn’t take drugs
forest orbit
Yeah tbh I think a lot of the lower ranked Drukhari.
Like the slaves and shit. ...
yeah they basically dont know any better
its like asking a criminal to stop doing what they do
they dont wanna
arctic talon
She doesn’t drink in her new book
Either
She’s boring and lame/hj
Aside from when she’s in the arena
opaque coyote
She just really likes killing people
"she's no fun at parties. She won't even take the human, T'au, and Ork mixed drug I made! Such a prude..."
opaque coyote
Still would be funny to imagine an ex-Drukhari trying to be
"Normal"
arctic talon
Ethereals when they catch 2 Tau dating who aren’t approved for reproduction
forest orbit
LMAO
opaque coyote
"Hello fellow Eldar."
"I like doing things like talking and NOT torturing people!"
forest orbit
"I like doing things like talking and NOT torturing people!"
when they defect they tend to purge their evil tendencies, so jokes aside they wouldnt care that much since they seek that kinda lifestyle
forest orbit
^
arctic talon
Yvraines literally turned to dust
The visarchs never did
So I guess the Incubi lifestyle isn’t evil enough
barren prawn
do they ever explain why the drukhari just refuse to use most of the eldari tech?
queen laurel
Soulstones don’t like drukhari
what are ways that dark eldar can try to avoid their souls getting slowly consumed if they don't want to do the lifestyle
i forgot
barren prawn
like soul stones weapons etc
arctic talon
like soul stones weapons etc
Not psykers
Drukhari are not psykers so they can’t use a lot of the good stuff
forest orbit
do they ever explain why the drukhari just refuse to use most of the eldari tech...
its psychic tech
they are stunted to use it
barren prawn
but arent all eldari psykers?
arctic talon
No
dapper gyro
Because they give up their psychic power.
opaque coyote
when they defect they tend to purge their evil tendencies, so jokes aside they w...
Yeah but it would kinda be hard to get used to.
Kinda also imagine it'd be similar to like...
Y'know how abused kids get confused when they get genuine love and care and they become paranoid as shit.
I think the same thing would happen to an ex-Drukhari that defected to a craftworld.
barren prawn
damn
forest orbit
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376> but arent all eldari psykers?
Yeah but their souls grow dim from not using their powers
arctic talon
The drukhari have pretty much lost their psychic powers entirely
arctic talon
It’s atrophied
forest orbit
its the quilavent of you knowing how to carve wood but not using it for literal years
arctic talon
Both biologically and like
forest orbit
then you'd just forget
arctic talon
Culturally
barren prawn
they just refuse to use it
queen laurel
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376> but arent all eldari psykers?
eldar are but Dark eldar is are basically an offshoot now in a completely different thing
dapper gyro
Giving it up kind of delay the corruption as well.
forest orbit
they just refuse to use it
The veil between the Warp and the Webway is thin, and as they dont police their psyker abilities unlike Craftworld as well its too volatile for someone to fuck up and let daemons into Commorragh
arctic talon
Just as tasty though
arctic talon
The veil between the Warp and the Webway is thin, and as they dont police their ...
I LOVE DISJUNCTIONS
barren prawn
The veil between the Warp and the Webway is thin, and as they dont police their ...
yeah
crisp heath
Eldar turn into drukhari If they indulge slaneesh don't they?
opaque coyote
The drukhari have pretty much lost their psychic powers entirely
Slaanesh when the Drukhari accidentally uses their atrophied Psyker powers by accident:
forest orbit
Eldar turn into drukhari If they indulge slaneesh don't they?
Kinda
They just grow more psychotic really
dark eldar are more a "lifestyle" than a condition
arctic talon
Eldar turn into drukhari If they indulge slaneesh don't they?
If you worship slaanesh as an eldar you just die
Drukhari hate slaanesh
crisp heath
Eldar confuse me tbh
arctic talon
How so
forest orbit
They arent that confusing
opaque coyote
dark eldar are more a "lifestyle" than a condition
There's two ways to stave off Slaanesh for Eldar.
Use protection (Soul Stone)
Or do as much torture, sex, etc. to stave her off.
forest orbit
you just need to read their lore tbh
arctic talon
There's two ways to stave off Slaanesh for Eldar.
Use protection (Soul Stone)
...
The second one isn’t staving off slaanesh
It’s just refilling your soul
crisp heath
I never read the lore tbh
arctic talon
Because that’s a biological component of eldar I guess?
They can feed on strong emotions
dapper gyro
There's two ways to stave off Slaanesh for Eldar.
Use protection (Soul Stone)
...
So either condom, or just being infertile?
arctic talon
Like some fucked up bampire
crisp heath
I'm into chaos imperium and orks
queen laurel
I never read the lore tbh
that statement is gonna get you killed here
forest orbit
well then you cant really say they are confusing if you know nothing about them 
arctic talon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1082483302671319191/1303581140682276895/minecraft_discord.gif
queen laurel
I'm into chaos imperium and orks
OK then let me ask you a question if you are truly a fan
can orks bend reality or no
forest orbit
crisp heath
If they beileve something it happens
forest orbit
NOOOO
arctic talon
forest orbit
HE FAILED THE TEST
queen laurel
If they beileve something it happens
DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING
WRONG
crisp heath
So kinda 🤷♂️
opaque coyote
If they beileve something it happens
LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER
forest orbit
Chat kill him
dapper gyro
Oh the bully...
queen laurel
So kinda 🤷♂️
It acts more like psychic duct tape
it won't turn a log into a gun
but it will allow them to fire a broken gun a few more times before it becomes unfirable
opaque coyote
It basically just skips a couple of steps rather than skipping the entire thing.
Shootas can still be shot in the hands of a humie.
It'll just be extremely dangerous
And also probably explode
queen laurel
yeah it's just a poorly built gun
that's why they have actual doctors and actual mechanics for building stuff and healing people
crisp heath
If There stuff doesn't work in the hands of another race then it kinda is warping reality 🤷♂️
opaque coyote
The Ork Gestalt effect makes it become more like a regular gun.
Although occasionally even that doesn't help since Ork Tech still randomly explodes.
dapper gyro
They can't generate ammo out of thin air, unlike out rejected Veteran.
forest orbit
If There stuff doesn't work in the hands of another race then it kinda is warpin...
I mean it does
it more just is rickety as fuck
crisp heath
Like they paint things red and they suddenly go faster so 🤷♂️
Idk why all the hate hahaha
queen laurel
If There stuff doesn't work in the hands of another race then it kinda is warpin...
it can work
just fill in the missing parts and make it stable and you have a ork weapon
crisp heath
Or paint things purple and they go invisible
opaque coyote
Like they paint things red and they suddenly go faster so 🤷♂️
It does.
But it's a minor boost. They can't make it into the speed of sound or anything
Psykers can do similar things
queen laurel
Or paint things purple and they go invisible
That's a meme
opaque coyote
It's just that Orks kinda just have a ritual behind it
crisp heath
They used to be the most advanced
queen laurel
damn you are on stage 3 ork misinformation
crisp heath
Also I said I liked there lore I never claimed to know everything 😆
dapper gyro
Or 50 Space Marines can over take current earth.
forest orbit
Lmao ye
queen laurel
Also I said I liked there lore I never claimed to know everything 😆
yeah just saying
forest orbit
Also I said I liked there lore I never claimed to know everything 😆
Your execution is tomorrow
queen laurel
make sure that you at least do research
because we have already heard this stuff too many times
opaque coyote
Example, lasgun is flashlight.
I think that's only due to the Tabletop
queen laurel
misinformation in warhammer lore is quite bad
queen laurel
Your execution is tomorrow
woah slow down black templar
crisp heath
misinformation in warhammer lore is quite bad
Lol I wonder why 😆
queen laurel
Lol I wonder why 😆
because on average warhammer fan has the intelligence of amoeba
dapper gyro
To be precise, Bulgur is saying that you are even below that.
opaque coyote
Also Orks canonically have their own language.
But like everything else it's wonderfully translated into English for our benefit.
So they just sound like the average British person
crisp heath
Or you could also say it's very hard to get into because there's years worth and you also have people that flame you and gatekeep 😆
queen laurel
To be precise, Bulgur is saying that you are even below that.
Hey your words not me
dapper gyro
Hey your words not me
What do you mean?
opaque coyote
Or you could also say it's very hard to get into because there's years worth and...
Yeah sorry about that man.
queen laurel
Or you could also say it's very hard to get into because there's years worth and...
Yes but The thing is with warhammer is as wide as a ocean as deep as a puddle
may as well help them out on the actual real thing
forest orbit
^
queen laurel
there are still people out there that genuinely believe that the alpha legion is both loyalist and chaos
forest orbit
Once you get the basics it really isnt too hard to get ahold of stuff
arctic talon
Core rule book is the best tbh
For a baseline
Rulebook lore in general is good
8e codexes
My beloved
opaque coyote
there are still people out there that genuinely believe that the alpha legion is...
And I'm Alpharius
queen laurel
And I'm Alpharius
of course you brainless servitor
opaque coyote
hue
raven stone
there are still people out there that genuinely believe that the alpha legion is...
I mean technically speaking during HH all the legions had loyalist/Traitor split divide...
And Alpha Legion mind games are Canon in all honesty, so...
Can't really use that as an example?
(Although yes, for the average run of the milk beginner it's good enough to know the legion went a 9/9 split on loyalist and traitor)
humble shoal
Tyberos is 600 feet tall and also my oc do not steal
queen laurel
I mean *technically speaking* during HH all the legions had loyalist/Traitor spl...
you wanna say that to DIlara?
raven stone
you wanna say that to DIlara?
@storm jungle so what's this I hear about the memes about the loyalties of the Alpha Legion 😅
humble shoal
Anyway even if the Sigma Legion were loyal, in theory they would be loyal to the imperial truth and not the imperium.
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> so what's this I hear about the memes about the loyalties...
Lmao theres not much to say
just the classic "AL are loyalists" copium people largely do for trolling
barren prawn
🚬 i mislike the alpha legion
throwing a random "I AM ALPHARIOUS" in the end of a story is such a cop out to having it effect the main plot
shadow plover
that's not really an issue with them, it's just like the Salamanders keep saying that Vulcan is alive
it's just something they say
barren prawn
😠
i mean not saying it as a battle cry
like saying it as a reveal
"I am not X i am alpharious"
im taking this ship!!!!
shadow plover
they all say that, it's never a 'reveal'
if you know alpha legion is there, there will be legionaries saying that
barren prawn
why are u so dense today 😭
im saying if theyre during an infiltration
they ruined a perfectly good ||raven guard story|| that way for me
towards they end they pulled the "reveal"
shadow plover
would you like it more if they'd say "I am alpha legion"
barren prawn
i dont like green eggs and ham
raven stone
just the classic "AL are loyalists" copium people largely do for trolling
Ah well lol by 40k era ant loyalist Alpha Legion is already deep covered as a loyalist chapter or a Deathwatch Blackshield...
pine wedge
What I really want to know is why Deathrow is working with Eisenhorn
He's a heretic by any Imperial standards but a loyalist by any rational one. Ride or die for the Throne.
raven stone
Individual Marines could be afflicted with regret under appropriate circumstances
And given a lone Alpha Legionnaire the possibility increases tenfold.
Or he could still be a Traitor, just pulling Eisenhorn's strings
spare osprey
Hehehehe
shadow plover
Not funny! Balls are serious business
barren prawn
🤔 what if the big reveal at the end is that morrow is a preptual
green loom
Morrow is the Colonel that went missing
rose thorn
Average blood bowl W
queen laurel
Average blood bowl W
most reasonable warhammer fan
raven stone
Average blood bowl W
When bloodbowl gives you better Khorne cultists than Necromunda, 40k, 30k, AoS and Old World added together…
queen laurel
When bloodbowl gives you better Khorne cultists than Necromunda, 40k, 30k, AoS a...
nah aos are basically the same thing as these guys
shadow plover
Excuse you Corpse Grinder Cultists are peak
queen laurel
that too
rose thorn
Excuse you Corpse Grinder Cultists are peak
Yeha lmao
raven stone
Excuse you Corpse Grinder Cultists are peak
Ah yes crap forgot those guys
rose thorn
AOS khorne is generic in terms of AOS but still good
queen laurel
When bloodbowl gives you better Khorne cultists than Necromunda, 40k, 30k, AoS a...
a khorne footballer
a bloodwarrior
Practically the same thing the other one just wears more armor and looks like he went through 5 orphanages in a single afternoon
shadow plover
and I do think the current World Eaters are pretty neat too
vagrant fox
Once again, khornechads win
raven stone
and I do think the current World Eaters are pretty neat too
Well was comparing non-Marine things, but yes, Khorne Berserker Marines be good.
shadow plover
fair enough
rose thorn
a bloodwarrior
Lmao yeah wow they are the exact same
queen laurel
Ah yes crap forgot those guys
also one of my favorite blades of khorne unit
A Skullgrinder
rose thorn
Btw this guy is a black smith
queen laurel
Btw this guy is a black smith
yep they chain up the anvil and use it like a flail
celest dome
Khorne has been eating good in all the setting tbh
queen laurel
Khorne has been eating good in all the setting tbh
let me tell you as much as i am not a fan of the primarchs, Angron the red angel does go hard
humble shoal
let me tell you as much as i am not a fan of the primarchs, Angron the red angel...
Angron is a lizard man
pine wedge
let me tell you as much as i am not a fan of the primarchs, Angron the red angel...
would've been a great design for a unique bloodthirster too
queen laurel
would've been a great design for a unique bloodthirster too
yeah it's great
static kettle
a lore question: why are melee more effective against demons?
celest dome
Symbology
sharp pollen
and force swords being stronger with psychic power i think
celest dome
Swords and other 'ancient' weapons came from a time where religion/faith was more prevalent, and thus it is more able to deal with 'Faith' based stuff
Guns and other post industrial stuff lack that link
sharp pollen
and demons really hate when something "faithful" starts ballin
but still some hand-crafted bullets and pellets can do harm
queen laurel
a lore question: why are melee more effective against demons?
because nothing beats clobbering your problems away the old fashioned way
sharp pollen
even basic small prayers can do stuff
queen laurel
yeah Faith is quite funky
humble shoal
but still some hand-crafted bullets and pellets can do harm
Or emperors used nose candy
For the cullexes
That causes true death
For demons
sharp pollen
its funny how Emprah never wanted religion to be a thing, yet with his mind (i guess) makes all these prayers and symbols work on demons
static kettle
So that's why hammer is more effective against demons
sharp pollen
Or emperors used nose candy
what?
static kettle
its funny how Emprah never wanted religion to be a thing, yet with his mind (i g...
Emp wouldn't have to deal with these religious things if he didn't walk around in gold armour with a bright aura on top
queen laurel
So that's why hammer is more effective against demons
has to be quite special though like a power weapon or blessed weapon as a normal run-of-the-mill giant hammer is not gonna do much against them unless wielded by someone that can strike with a force to crack open a tank like an ork
sharp pollen
well its "respect" aura, not "faith" aura
sharp pollen
They have golden throne dust grenades that permakill demons
are you joking right now?
humble shoal
No....
static kettle
well its "respect" aura, not "faith" aura
not to the mfs he met
sharp pollen
not to the mfs he met
i know right, he's a dumbass
humble shoal
Psyk-out grenade
winter vessel
well its "respect" aura, not "faith" aura
He apparently had his disrespect aura on whenever he was around his sons, lmao
sharp pollen
this is why i called him a dumbass
static kettle
if I were to meet a super tall man in full gold armour and shines like the sun, i would claim him as a God
static kettle
He apparently had his disrespect aura on whenever he was around his sons, lmao
cough Magnus cough
humble shoal
if I were to meet a super tall man in full gold armour and shines like the sun, ...
3meters
sharp pollen
isnt he like 10 metes
humble shoal
Think he was like 14 feet tall
static kettle
there
Fixed it
sharp pollen
american metrics ffs...
humble shoal
Giant man covered in gold who glows in the dark comes and says do not be afraid, and then is surprised when people think they are a god
winter vessel
Giant man covered in gold who glows in the dark comes and says do not be afraid,...
I don’t hate Lorgar for what he was doing, pre-heresy. It was just his upbringing. If Big E could’ve just counseled the poor lad and not go scorched earth YOU DICK on Monarchia, maybe it would’ve been a better outcome
static kettle
if he wore Iron instead
sharp pollen
emperor never even made a note - "religion is a no-no, idiots"
humble shoal
I don’t hate Lorgar for what he was doing, pre-heresy. It was just his upbringin...
Or if they just skinned erebus
winter vessel
Or if they just skinned erebus
Yeah, see him, he was the dastardly sonuvabitch.
barren prawn
erm i know looking at me burns your eyes and i can teleport fucking dragons but im technically not a god 🤓
winter vessel
Ik I just healed the wounds of who was going to become the last priest of the last church, but I am most definitely not a divine being
barren prawn
my theory is that the emperor knew he was becoming a god and hated it tbh
like you hear accounts of how oll and john spoke of him and others who knew him before and they dont seem that awe struck
sharp pollen
all his mistakes make me think he's an actual man, but really powerful
not some alien
barren prawn
but then later on it goes to people seeing a thousand faces when they look at him
like even before the god emperor stuff and even before siege of terra he was slowly becoming a god
sharp pollen
only when figurines stop getting bought
barren prawn
lorgar was spreading worship of the emperor long before he got yelled at
winter vessel
Interesting enough, Ollanius practiced the “Catheric” religion, which is like a distant (implied) connection with Roman Catholicism
barren prawn
Would be funny if in end times he gets off of the throne
think theyre gonna do something like that
gray umbra
Emperor projects a different image with his psyker abilities iirc
So some people see different things and blanks can see him normally
barren prawn
the emperor ||split a part of himself before the fight with horus|| so essentially the emperor on the golden throne ||is his analytical side and the part in the warp feeding on the worship is his human loving side||
sharp pollen
So some people see different things and blanks can see him normally
is this true? documented?
winter vessel
So some people see different things and blanks can see him normally
Some guy just sees him as a cardboard box
gray umbra
Might have misread speculation so fact check me
barren prawn
So some people see different things and blanks can see him normally
no
gray umbra
This is just from memory
barren prawn
blankness covers a part of psyker powers
winter vessel
blankets
barren prawn
youd have to get a lot of blanks to cover him up and maybe not even then
winter vessel
Comfy
sharp pollen
blacks
barren prawn
end times might be like the throne emperor trying to reunite with his warp self
one fed on death one fed on love
sounds comfy no?
it would make for a nice story
sharp pollen
i hope emperor put his shit together after i get some cool ogryn novels
barren prawn
no fuck you you get league of votan
sharp pollen
MMMM-MIDGETS AAAAHH
barren prawn
theyre mini ogryns but smarter
winter vessel
Mogryns
celest dome
the emperor ||split a part of himself before the fight with horus|| so essential...
Either the 2nd part never existed, or it had separated long before the duel
barren prawn
Either the 2nd part never existed, or it had separated long before the duel
you litearlly have heretic in your name
sharp pollen
theyre mini ogryns but smarter
ive heard there is only 1 book and its mid kinda
celest dome
youd have to get a lot of blanks to cover him up and maybe not even then
Sister of Silence saw him as he really was though
barren prawn
or thats what he wanted them to think
gray umbra
Emperor was really a 5'3 short king
sharp pollen
SOMEONE WAS OVERCOMPENSATING
barren prawn
his geneseed was actually geneseed from icelandic bodybuilders
storm jungle
stop talking about semen in chat!!!
outer wave
Looks like someone's milking the topic hahahaha
storm jungle
Aughhh die die
outer wave
Hahahahahaha
barren prawn
stop talking about semen in chat!!!
u mentioned it first
storm jungle
u mentioned it first
Ok mr geneseed
sharp pollen
if i want to insult any primarch, do i say "yo mama" or "yo papa"
winter vessel
Made the mistake of watching Emesis Blue at midnight while it was raining
humble shoal
Made the mistake of watching Emesis Blue at midnight while it was raining
Have you played the map?
winter vessel
Have you played the map?
No, but I’ve seen gameplay of it.
That animation is probably one of top fave of TF2 animations
Course. Nothing could hold a candle to Team Fabulous 2
humble shoal
Course. Nothing could hold a candle to Team Fabulous 2
Big engineer
green loom
I like Wrench in the Gears
winter vessel
I also saw serverblight recently, pretty eerie stuff in that one
dusk patrol
stop talking about semen in chat!!!
deep wharf
crystal forum
sometimes i start getting bored of 40k, then i pick up my land raider model and become a kid again
pew pew pew
i love tanks so much
opaque coyote
sometimes i start getting bored of 40k, then i pick up my land raider model and ...
I remember a story. It probably isn't true because it was on the internet and it's ridiculous
But fuck it, it's funny
Some guy was a cashier on Toys R Us and a kid put Barbies on the counter along with some other male adjacent toys
The cashier off handedly mentioned that the toys seem a little too girly for him
And the kid said "My soldiers need some hoes"
And so I wonder if I ever get guardsmen, that I should also just buy a Barbie or something
And put it next to them
humble shoal
Considering what my sister did with barbies thats tame....
(She held them hostage and mailed their severed digits back to ken when the random went unpaid)
jade holly
dapper gyro
Are you sure? Give me her number to do a check out.
queen laurel
Are you sure? Give me her number to do a check out.
Come on dude plenty of fish in the ocean don't fish in a volcano
humble shoal
Are you sure? Give me her number to do a check out.
5675309
rose thorn
its crazy that horus galaxy and alt right warhammer communities think that lbgtq community is causing rising prices
i was looking up stuff anf theres a bunch of reddit and twitter posts being like 'GW needs to pick between DEI and the raising prices...'
shadow plover
they are not the brightest bunch
arctic talon
The rising prices are literally just because of inflation
GW price increases are surprisingly lower then the inflation rate
Which is still ASS BECAUSE MY PAYCHECK HASN’T GOTTEN BIGGER
But whatever
dapper gyro
GW price increases are surprisingly lower then the inflation rate
When they are already more expensive than most other plastics, inflation barely makes a dent to them.
arctic talon
Yeah
GW sculpts are also just better though
Like I like battle tech but their mini quality is way lower lol
Same with infinity
arctic talon
dapper gyro
But their quality are way lower than the 1/35 and 1/32 military miniatures while still more expensive.
celest dome
they are not the brightest bunch
They might even be qualified as the dimest of the bunch
shadow plover
very true
arctic talon
But their quality are way lower than the 1/35 and 1/32 military miniatures while...
Are they lower quality then flames of war?
I can see GW’s stuff being worse then Bolt actions
But flames of war stuff seems not great
dapper gyro
Are they lower quality then flames of war?
Flames of war is 1/100.
dapper gyro
1/35 is military collector size.
arctic talon
Oh
rocky gale
Looks like a porcelain statue
rose thorn
Me using my gay witch powers to make GW raise prices
UHDSHUSUHHAFJS
queen laurel
https://tenor.com/view/scarlett-witch-wanda-maximoff-magic-woman-witch-gif-16277...
Damn daughters of khaine magic tricks
crystal forum
god i love guard tanks used as static defenses
baneblade is already a mobile bunker so why not
also shame that the stormlord can't be used as AA
the mega bolter should be usable against flying objects lets be real
arctic talon
the mega bolter should be usable against flying objects lets be real
New tau book has this
Btw
A baneblade gets its tracks wrecked and it’s turned into an AA emplacement/bunker
crystal forum
A baneblade gets its tracks wrecked and it’s turned into an AA emplacement/bunke...
FUCK YES
@arctic talon how do tau fire cast warriors address their officers
arctic talon
<@255478624851853312> how do tau fire cast warriors address their officers
Shas'ui, Shas'vre, Shas'el, Shas'o
or their "title" if they have one
I.E Farsight rather then being refered to as Shas'o or commander
could be called Farsight
They're usually just refered to with the rank
Or just Ui, vre, El, O
ect
crystal forum
A baneblade gets its tracks wrecked and it’s turned into an AA emplacement/bunke...
Shas'ui, we finally crippled the giant enemy land crawler suit
excellent, send in warriors to finish it of-
BRRRRRRRRRRRT
arctic talon
Ui also isn't necissarily an officer rank is the funny thing
Since its the "veteran" rank
so you could have an entire squad of Shas'ui
anyways the baneblade
gets blown up in the book by a tau kamakazing it with a Barracuda
viral halo
I wish for the wealth of the 1% to increase at the sake of the other 99%
humble shoal
I wish for the wealth of the 1% to increase at the sake of the other 99%
Heh 1%, you mean .1%
dusk patrol
I just want money for me, fuck all you nerds
Now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna gaze longingly at the Journeyman Electrician payscale for a little while.
crystal forum
i just want enough money to stop working and spend my miserable existence online
humble shoal
Im currently just trying to actually get to a hiring manager for a job
gray umbra
linkedin is okay, but just cut out the middleman and apply directly to the job posting
hasty coral
tight stratus
So the Psykhanium was purely a darktide thing huh I thought it may have had deep routes in warhammer lore
sly ivy
It does now
young pecan
I don't doubt that a psyker as (seemingly) powerful as Sefoni could actually make you hallucinate training procedures in actual lore
sly ivy
Two decades from now the surviving humans will be akshullying each other about the details of psykhanium construction
(The surviving humans will be AIs)
sly ivy
I don't doubt that a psyker as (seemingly) powerful as Sefoni could actually mak...
Sefoni could make me hallucinate without using the warp ❤️
Oh no dilara is typing
storm jungle
I don't doubt that a psyker as (seemingly) powerful as Sefoni could actually mak...
Stronger psykers have done more OP things so its not that weird tbh
sly ivy
Also you missed a real brawl in bookclub today
Damn it
storm jungle
haha owned
sly ivy
Stupid “work”
young pecan
I'm still kinda early in Eisenhorn and saw a part where somehow without using the will he just made two guards "get anxious" and walk away muttering
That felt like a "the writer needed it to work so it did" moment
And he's not even particularly powerful to scale I think
storm jungle
That felt like a "the writer needed it to work so it did" moment
Thats basically how magic works in 40k
young pecan
LMAO
storm jungle
psykers with appropriate grades/levels can kinda do anything the writer wants
like we got some LITERALLY STOPPING TIME
young pecan
It's funny to just take at face value and not think too hard about
storm jungle
yeah pretty much
young pecan
Which is actually very appropriate for the average 40k fan
storm jungle
because like even when GW lists abilities psykers can do extensively an author just goes
"Okay so he blows up his past-self with his mind ensuring the person hes fighting is never born"
and im like "neat"
young pecan
Okay so he blows his past-self
storm jungle
young pecan
YOU WROTE IT NOT ME
sly ivy
My people Voxcast episode 9 with Dan Abnett is so good
- He’s super smart and also super nice
- So much good info and so many good observations
Also do you guys know how the Eisenhorn books happened, really?
I always thought GW commissioned them to accompany Inquisitor
But actually Dan got so excited about the sourcebook he asked to write an inquisitor novel
And they told him ok but hurry it up so we can release it with the game and make it look like it was all planned lmao
green loom
That's on brand for Dan
And they definitely allowed that for him since he's easily the highest profile writer they have or probably will have
sly ivy
He wasn’t then!!
He was kind of new
He comes across as just so lovely
And he is so well spoken
Look at me letting the mask slip and being wholesome
Anyway back to annoying everyone and talking about genitals
green loom
He wasn’t then!!
Well uh
gray umbra
eisenhorn using his abilties is weirdly worded a few times
green loom
No he wasn't new
gray umbra
also his weird monologues about how good his katana skills are
i mean carthaen swordsmanship
green loom
He at the time was already a pretty well known comic book guy
sly ivy
I mean he was new-ish at GW.
His first BL book was First and Only in 1999
Eisenhorn was released 2001
Xenos
Sources: BL website & Amazon for release dates; Voxcast ep 9 re: First and Only as first BL book.
green loom
He's definitely dan abnett
arctic talon
Okay genuine question what’s with power suppression devices being collars
gray umbra
like in general?
sly ivy
Like in 40k or you know the rest of the world
gray umbra
I dont know, might just be the visibility of it
Its either a neck collar or scifi handcuffs usually
Also i guess it doubles as a bomb collar
sly ivy
It's because heresy is stored in the adam's apple
gray umbra
Depending on setting
sly ivy
Literally it's adam's apple god said don't fucking eat it
gray umbra
Wat
sly ivy
Heresy. Is. Stored. In. The. Adam's. Apple.
Source: Genesis 2:15-17, 3:1-24
And Gray, 1858, p. 641-648 (The Larynx)
dusk patrol
Okay genuine question what’s with power suppression devices being collars
Often associated with prisons, easy to see, has the obvious slave/submissive implications.
It’s the most visually striking place
arctic talon
Often associated with prisons, easy to see, has the obvious slave/submissive imp...
Fair enough
storm jungle
Okay genuine question what’s with power suppression devices being collars
Easier to signify.
Ironically explains it pretty well lmao
sly ivy
Ironically explains it pretty well lmao
That's fake that's not even a real photograph. It's subtle but u can tell it's not a real person. Or rather an expert like me can.
storm jungle
That's fake that's not even a real photograph. It's subtle but u can tell it's n...
Are you on drugs.
sly ivy
Are you on drugs.
The only drug I'm on is reality
You people are lucky 2 have me 2 tell u what's what
storm jungle
The only drug I'm on is reality
sly ivy
https://tenor.com/view/whoa-gif-20492375
That's right it's joever 4 u fools
Tf did @arctic talon go after that q anyhow
He got 2 terrible false answers and one amazing good one and nowhere 2 b found
We did unpaid labor 4 u
dusk patrol
I’m gonna put a collar on you called my arm
sly ivy
U have exploited the proletariat u bourgeoisie fuck
sly ivy
I’m gonna put a collar on you called my arm
My thyroid cartilage is without sin
sacred ginkgo
12018248th ogryn intelligence argument in general, kill me
arctic talon
Tf did <@255478624851853312> go after that q anyhow
sly ivy
12018248th ogryn intelligence argument in general, kill me
on it
sudden compass
storm jungle
12018248th ogryn intelligence argument in general, kill me
The moment I say Tareldar in there it clicked
sacred ginkgo
Do they have a history
storm jungle
But anyway yeah Ogryn intelligence lore is like
extremely badly outdated and kinda whatever at this point
late osprey
yeah theres no retcons other than darktide
late osprey
so the old lore still stands?
sacred ginkgo
No
storm jungle
No lol
late osprey
that's what a retcon is
sacred ginkgo
Darktide expanded on it, not retcon
storm jungle
^
late osprey
anyway
late osprey
the 91 source was specifically that imperium favored ogryns for already being stupid
storm jungle
Darktide *expanded* on it, not retcon
What I love is also like
late osprey
as opposed to what you said that the imperium makes them stupid via uneducation
storm jungle
people for some reason just always wanna believe an entire sub-species of humans spanning the galaxy somehow all hate cramped spaces
late osprey
which so far just doesn't seem to be true
storm jungle
and can never "learn"
sacred ginkgo
as opposed to what you said that the imperium makes them stupid via uneducation
They keep them stupid, they don't bother to nurture their intelligence past that of a child
storm jungle
^
Who said they make them stupid lol
the lore has always been that they literally manipulate them since they dont know anything else.
late osprey
carpets did, that was the whole point
arctic talon
Cassia also wasn’t that dumb before her powers
storm jungle
Yeah that too
arctic talon
She just got smarter after using biomancy on her own brain
arctic talon
But it’s not like she was like
storm jungle
late osprey
i dont think cassia is the best example, psykers already break the limitations of their species, and they always have their psyker abilities -- its just a question of when they awaken
rather, psychic potential
arctic talon
I mean before they were a Psyker
outer wave
I truly wish GW understood how to write mentally inept people
How would you write a genuinely mentally inept person?
storm jungle
Yeah that.
arctic talon
They weren’t that dumb is my point
After they were a Psyker they got smarter
Psychic awakening is weird
storm jungle
How would you write a genuinely mentally inept person?
Probably by first and foremost ignoring all the bad ogryn tropes, which Darktide mostly thankfully does.
arctic talon
It might relate to it but I like to think it doesn’t
storm jungle
unlike uhhh Brawler, thats kind of it
but it checks out since hes suppose to be what a "Default" ogryn is
outer wave
Brawler does have an excuse tbf
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much lol
outer wave
His brain is literally being fried so like okay that checks out
late osprey
Psychic awakening is weird
im pretty sure it's only dormant, and psykers are always like "boy strange shit was happening all my childhood"
the example i can think of is heinrix in RT
storm jungle
people also hype the intelligence of darktide ogryns WAY too much
they do about as many arguably smart *and *dumb stuff
the amount of people that declare it non-canon is pretty funny tho
arctic talon
im pretty sure it's only dormant, and psykers are always like "boy strange shit ...
Well psychic awakening as in the phenomena was weird
late osprey
they seem about what id imagine nork deddog or one with a bone'ead
tough haven
unlike uhhh Brawler, thats kind of it
Yeah but I would say he meets the tropes but still is his own person and character
arctic talon
No like
late osprey
i said OR one with a bone'ead
storm jungle
Yeah but I would say he meets the tropes but still is his own person and charact...
Yeah he is really well written even with the limitations
i used to kinda hate Brawler but warmed up to him
late osprey
nork deddogg was described as being capable to doing the basic functions we see in DT before he got the implant
storm jungle
im a Bodyguard main tho so im very biased
tough haven
I need more darktide tier ogryn content
storm jungle
Same
tough haven
i used to kinda hate Brawler but warmed up to him
He was always my favorite, I'm a sucker for his trope though
outer wave
I used to be a Brawler Bro but I moved onto Bully as my OTP
storm jungle
Bully is peak
tough haven
Bodyguard is my second fave
outer wave
His range is good!
tough haven
Seer is my favorite
storm jungle
amazing yeah
outer wave
Its mad good!
tough haven
over all
storm jungle
Seer is my favorite
inforsah
outer wave
Anyway Im one of those fellas that champion Ogryn intelliegence and truly believe that they're all secretly plotting to usurp the Imperium together as a unit
storm jungle
That we know of
arctic talon
Necromunda Ogryn Slave gang
storm jungle
arctic talon
my beloved
storm jungle
>Has never touched a Necromunda lore book
read Spark of Revolution, now!!!
outer wave
I would love to read more about the Slave Ogryns though!
outer wave
Oh fuck, really?
outer wave
They have a whole ass book for Ogryns, by Ogryns?
outer wave
Oh shit thats awesome
storm jungle
House Poopliath is here but its ignorable
outer wave
Is House Goliath that bad? Like I know they're basically a weird middle man between human and space marine and they're not even that poor man's space marine that are employed in Imperial Guard regiments
arctic talon
House Goliath are like
fine
I just don't find them interesting at all
playstyle or lore wise
also I think a lot of their weapons look ugly
outer wave
Thats pretty fair
tough haven
House Poopliath is here but its ignorable
Hold on, let me acquire this
storm jungle
Yeah like
theres a reason in most recent Necromunda story events they are used like how writers use nids or orks.
Aka just fodder to die since they're basic af and are not that interesting.
The other Houses are SO much better.
tough haven
Are there people who are like "I LOVE GOLIATH!!!"
tough haven
theres a reason in most recent Necromunda story events they are used like how wr...
Ok but orks are interesting, or at least can be if written well
nids are uh, kinda written into a box
storm jungle
You get what I mean lol
storm jungle
Are there people who are like "I LOVE GOLIATH!!!"
Yeah there is but surprisingly again its not a lot.
tough haven
I appreciate what they are and the vibe they sell, they sell it really well
but like theres not much I can do with them
and maybe thats the appeal?
you always get what you expect
storm jungle
Pretty much. They are what they are, not much else to comment otherwise.
tough haven
hold on I gotta draw a battlemap for another campaign i'm working on
Except I only have ms paint and suck ass
BEHOLD!
arctic talon
also yeah Goliath imo is like
tough haven
I cant write on paint lol
sly ivy
House Poopliath is here but its ignorable
Wat we call the farthest stall from the door in the work bathroom
arctic talon
late osprey
Except I only have ms paint and suck ass
can't recomment paint.net enough
arctic talon
I have very little intrest in trying to kitbash them
also yeah paint.net is like MS.paint but good
late osprey
or gimp is actually better strictly speaking but the hotkeys were designed by martians
tough haven
also yeah paint.net is like MS.paint but good
yeah but I kinda already used ms paint for all my maps
Idk if I want to do them again
late osprey
gimp has a lot of the photoshop tools that paint.net doesnt
you can import mspaint works into another program
late osprey
NO
lmao sorry
its not literally paint.net, look it up in google
i dont know why they named it like that
tough haven
Figured it wasnt correct
tough haven
Yeah I found it, thanks
spare osprey
can a dreadnought be a chaos lord? or would they be too insane
late osprey
iirc there is at least one case of a dreadnought being a chaos lord
storm jungle
can a dreadnought be a chaos lord? or would they be too insane
its possible just explain it as the writers always do
"idk his magic mojo warp is too strong"
spare osprey
he's a word bearer so i'll just say he prays eight times a day
storm jungle
Yeah that makes it even better on the magic excuse department lol
like we got chaos lords who are literally attached to their fucking flagships/control them
a dreadnaught is like so many tiers below that in being pretty possible
late osprey
considering the insanity iirc is inflicted by the rest of the warband and because of how shitty the vessel itself is
i would say apart from space magic, it also has to do with the warband deliberately WANTS to keep him sane
as there are cases of sane chaos dreadnoughts
dusk patrol
can a dreadnought be a chaos lord? or would they be too insane
There’s a Iron Warrior one in the Honsou books
late osprey
There’s a Iron Warrior one in the Honsou books
yeah thats who i was thinking of
storm jungle
had the idea since i was reading this chaos anthology
Remember the golden rule in 40k is basically anything is more or less possible, its just a case of the excuse for said thing being explained well/thoroughly
like
late osprey
i could see like
storm jungle
Exorcists are such a dumb idea for a Chapter on paper as one random example
but since its canon people just look at it and go"yeah thats cool"
so it works lol
late osprey
a chaos lord going down, and his most loyal screamers made sure that he was put into an actually decent dreadnought chassis
and then his own power forces people to keep him maintained
spare osprey
had the idea since i was reading this chaos anthology
dude's a fuckin
head in a spider dread thingy
storm jungle
Yeah see what I mean lol
spare osprey
ALRIGHT
spare osprey
now i just gotta write out my alpha legion led white scars
storm jungle
storm jungle
I think one of the funniest examples i remember having once was uh some dude saying chaos cannot use the webway properly or at all.
The genefather came out like a week later and it had the darkmech in it manipulating the energies of webway gates to quick-travel
late osprey
my friend's first army homebrew had them led by a Gal Vorbak survivor
late osprey
which i thought was badass
spare osprey
my friend's first army homebrew had them led by a Gal Vorbak survivor
yknow
i wonder what happened to the Luperci
hmmmmmmmm
late osprey
"Unaware that the entire plan had been foreseen by Rogal Dorn, Tormageddon was ambushed by a squad led by Garviel Loken. Loken was barely able to handle Tormageddon's superhuman strength but eventually was able to kill the creature. This time, the infernal power that powered Tormageddon had either extinguished or fled back to the Warp.[9]"
guess it depends on if tormageddon was with his luperci or not here
if he was then they probably got devastated, if not they could still be around and kicking, but probably as warband leaders themselves
getting beaten up by abaddon and press-ganged into the black legion if he ever found any of them
late osprey
like having a gal vorbak chaos lord, having a luperci chaos lord would be metal as fuck too
and theres even more room for a luperci one
plush mason
are the gal vorbak the daemon/marine hybrids?
late osprey
yeah they were the OG possessed
technically by lore sticklers they were all exterminated by custodians
spare osprey
relish hoarders
plush mason
technically by lore sticklers they were all exterminated by custodians
not like that stopped the thunder warriors :P
late osprey
i could easily see a case where a gal vorbak goes down in the fighting and his ridiculous implants keep him in a coma
arctic talon
technically by lore sticklers they were all exterminated by custodians
tbh they could always make another wave of them
Assuming they can find daemons willing to share control
so heavily
late osprey
tbh they could always make another wave of them
they actually did, but they were given a different name
late osprey
i actually wasnt either until i just checked up on Gal Vobrak lore again lmao
they're called Vakrah Jal
late osprey
i could easily see a case where a gal vorbak goes down in the fighting and his r...
they did make gal vorbak dreadnoughts too, so this definitely happened
tough haven
Can I just say how much I love rolling steel as a track
it perfectly keeps the feeling going for the situation, and really sets the scene
along with the wheezing built into the track, just chefs kiss
sly ivy
Can I just say how much I love rolling steel as a track
Do u just make an unambiguously positive post
& express ur appreciation 4 something
Banned.
soft thunder
Nobody expects the Inquisition of Love (my band name)
sly ivy
I’ll be banned with joy in my heart
sly ivy
it perfectly keeps the feeling going for the situation, and really sets the scen...
Everyone complains about it but I think Rolling Steel is a great experience.
I really enjoy it. Auric RS is insane and hilarious.
tough haven
Nobody expects the Inquisition of Love (my band name)
It’s mostly a ploy to lull you into a false sense of security
sly ivy
This is unrelated to 40k lore but people don't sleep on Path of Exile 2. Worth the early access cost tbh it's really gd good.
static kettle
This is unrelated to 40k lore but people don't sleep on Path of Exile 2. Worth t...
grind is too much
sly ivy
It's so fun tho
sly ivy
So tru king
dusk patrol
@arctic talon ngl, not sure if I like Arcane season 2 a ton.
It’s very pretty and all that but the story is kinda.
Idk
Not terrible just not nearly as good or coherent as season 1 imo.
sly ivy
i just wish the piltover goons weren't such jobbers
What… what language is this
dusk patrol
There’s always gonna be plot armor stuff but yeah some of that stuff was
A bit much by the end too
sly ivy
Is this proto-indo-European
dusk patrol
Like Ambessa not being riddled with bullets by the end
late osprey
What… what language is this
you know what a jobber is?
viral halo
Guys go to bed
umbral kraken
a jobber gets jobbed
late osprey
There’s always gonna be plot armor stuff but yeah some of that stuff was
it was more manageable in the first season but the second one was like
dusk patrol
It was too much over a short time
late osprey
the piltover goons jobbed even to the other goons
like they were just the show's punching bag
dusk patrol
Yeah, I think in general season 2 felt like they had two seasons planned
But condensed it into one
late osprey
even zaunite screamer #50 killed like 20 of them
as for the pacing yeah it was rough
dusk patrol
It’s a lot over a short period of time
It’s not bad at what it’s doing but man it’s just, a lot
late osprey
the Dictator Caitlyn arc began and ended like whiplash
dusk patrol
The music video thing was definitely overused too
Like the chem barons are dismantled in a montage
It feels like that all should have been built up slower over a season, with Ambessa being the antagonist, and then the third season would be Viktor as the bigger threat
sly ivy
Guys go to bed
Bro I have always wanted to meet a thawed proto indo euro and ur telling me 2 go 2 bed
late osprey
Bro I have always wanted to meet a thawed proto indo euro and ur telling me 2 go...
r u american?
sly ivy
The divine cow — is it more a god or like an adversary?
sly ivy
r u american?
Well of course I am on the internet
late osprey
It feels like that all should have been built up slower over a season, with Ambe...
i never really got exactly how viktor was even a problem
sly ivy
Other nations do not have technology
dusk patrol
His motivations were definitely kinda weird.
Like I said, it feels like something which was meant to be much more spaced out and expanded on
dusk patrol
I got the gist but
late osprey
Well of course I am on the internet
u seem like the internet is the only place ur on
late osprey
ok yeah that makes sense i guess
sly ivy
u seem like the internet is the only place ur on
No I went outside a month ago it was terrible I’ve still got rashes.
arctic talon
Tldr he’s deleting them from existance
dusk patrol
Stuff just happens and then you gotta kinda figure it out and the rules and reasons aren’t clear
arctic talon
Since the soul is a tangible thing in runeterra
late osprey
runeterra lore is actually kinda dope in places ngl
dusk patrol
Viktor it was kinda clear it was bad for those reasons but we’re not really told much and it all just escalates crazy fast
arctic talon
As for the mechanics behind how I don’t know
sly ivy
He’s assimilating their soul into a collective hivemind
Tf u talkin bout mf
arctic talon
Tf u talkin bout mf
Arcane
Also League of Legends lore ig
But the hexcore was magic going wild
dusk patrol
Also the stuff with Ambessa and her daughter was, idk.
arctic talon
Due to lack of proper control
sly ivy
legends categorically don’t exist how can they be in a league
sly ivy
Checkmate
dusk patrol
Yeah
arctic talon
Like
dusk patrol
It all felt like it was supposed to be explained way more
arctic talon
They absolutely should have had 3 seasons
dusk patrol
Ambessa should have been the season 2 villain who dies by the end
late osprey
probably a whole extra plot around the zaun/piltover stuff to finish it up
dusk patrol
And then Viktor becomes the season 3 villain
arctic talon
Of Zaun and piltover
late osprey
ambessa dies as they realize shes causing the war or whatever
arctic talon
They’re going to be separated into two separate city states
arctic talon
ambessa dies as they realize shes causing the war or whatever
Ambessa wanted war
sly ivy
@viral halo really dropped in here to say go to bed then split smdh
late osprey
Ambessa wanted war
i know im saying but the chars dont know that or whatever
arctic talon
Oh
dusk patrol
Zaun is completely ignored
arctic talon
Fair enough
dusk patrol
But it’s how it is
viral halo
I CANT FINISH
arctic talon
Zaun and piltover both having a tech boom after they divorce from each other
dusk patrol
I AM JACKING MY SHIT RN
Send pics
late osprey
theres no real reason why they'd even separate at that point though since iirc it was kumbaya
dusk patrol
😘
sly ivy
Think about me it’ll speed u up
late osprey
like by the end of the show
arctic talon
Cultural + ethical differences
arctic talon
Zaun and piltover are very similar but they’re two incredibly distinct cultures
dusk patrol
Also, I don’t hate show Viktor but I really prefer the idea behind the original one
late osprey
For any real readers in here I beg you to read the red rising series
nobody actually reads anymore
dusk patrol
The show Viktor is a lot less interesting in concept imo
arctic talon
Viktor isn’t that unique
sly ivy
Poor @arctic talon literally always trying to have a civilized conversation in the middle of our abject cesspool
arctic talon
Is the issue lol
late osprey
the idea is identical in either one
arctic talon
There’s like a lot of them
late osprey
its just one is a cyborg and the other is an eldritch mutant
arctic talon
Yeah but combine the magic stuff
dusk patrol
As opposed to a technomancer kinda dude
dusk patrol
Yeah
late osprey
i do like the tech one more as well
arctic talon
He’s very much just horrific magic mutations now
Which like
Is occupied by many things
dusk patrol
I feel like they could have done the exact same thing but make him more hextech steampunk looking
late osprey
i cant wait for the noxus show to go down and we get people going "umm actually the noxus are the good guys"
arctic talon
NOXUS ARE THE GOOD GUYS
dusk patrol
Also Singed’s whole deal is so random
late osprey
noxus: awesome
noxus: evil asf
late osprey
shrimple as
arctic talon
he just does horrific things to people because he wants to
his daughter is a secondary motivation to an extent
late osprey
iirc they made it so swains already in power
dusk patrol
He jsut shows up and kinda helps out and is sad about his daughter or whatever and then doesn’t matter
late osprey
which is such a missed opportunity
arctic talon
since concept art reveals the Child/teen that ambessa
decapitated
is uh
Ionian
In the Mel flashback
dusk patrol
He’s like chemical super weapon Mr. Freeze
late osprey
in the original lore, singed gets hired for the 1st generation
which is before swain does his coup
late osprey
missed opportunity since the setup of that plot is badass as hell
dusk patrol
Their motivation for him was pretty weak imo, very generic “we need him to be tragic” backstory
arctic talon
I think the timeline is Invasion of Ionia -> singed hired -> Singed does his warcrimes -> Arcane season 1 -> Ionian war ends sometime -> Swain rises to power -> Arcane Season 2
late osprey
He’s like chemical super weapon Mr. Freeze
mr freeze but instead of just freezing people and stealing money he actually gives people the most painful super cancer possible
dusk patrol
But I guess the other option was
arctic talon
I mean he still is Mengle
dusk patrol
“I’m evil lol”
late osprey
I think the timeline is Invasion of Ionia -> singed hired -> Singed does his war...
i could see that honestly
but surely ambessa would have recognized him
late osprey
true
arctic talon
by the noxian general who hired him
late osprey
actually thats solid
arctic talon
She didnt' want other people finding out wtf was going on
Especially since she fucking gassed her own troops lol
dusk patrol
Least based Noxian leader
sly ivy
What is this show why don’t people wear more clothes in it
dusk patrol
The whole bit with Ambessa and the wizards and wizards in general was so undercooked, it needed so much more to it
arctic talon
ngl
late osprey
i mean it IS set in a puritan colony in the 1700s
arctic talon
why even introduce the Black Rose lol
late osprey
they're as clothed as it gets
dusk patrol
Seriously
dusk patrol
It’s cool but goddamn they do nothing
Like she baits the wizard lady and then kills her?
Ok
Like
queen laurel
like the Mel subplot is like
what's your thoughts on viktor
arctic talon
Leblanc kills/does something to Ambessa
sly ivy
Oh it’s bc the French made it they’re degenerates
arctic talon
and then she gets her mirror image deleted