The man had balls.
#40k-lore-chat
winter vessel
only one man can wear that title. we got chief
dapper gyro
Oh, and plasma weapons in the lore of halo can absolutely shit on wh40k stuff, I dare say even SM.
winter vessel
https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-the-ladies-like-sgt-johnson-halo-ready-gif-12096052 but then there's HIM
opaque coyote
Oh, and plasma weapons in the lore of halo can absolutely shit on wh40k stuff, I...
40k has bigger plasma weapons and shit
so out of sheer scale, nah
But in terms of like
mass production?
Yeah definitely
crisp heath
40k has the coolest relic weapons but I reckon alot of the stuff we see in the lore and that would be very rare
sly ivy
Halo that dead franchise from the early 2000s?
opaque coyote
also less volatile.
I think 40k's plasma weapons in general are more powerful
But also would be more likely to
fucking explode
and kill you
dapper gyro
If 40k plasma pistol can go full auto is the halo plasma rifle in the lore.
opaque coyote
So pick your poison.
winter vessel
I think 40k's plasma weapons in general are more powerful
power scale yes, but in terms of accessibility i give it to Halo
opaque coyote
power scale yes, but in terms of accessibility i give it to Halo
Yeah I think that the T'au are similar
dapper gyro
Covenant weapons are quite insane.
opaque coyote
Their Pulse Rifles are "weaker" but are more accessible, still pack a fuck ton of a punch, and don't explode
crisp heath
Considering what they do to people they are insane
winter vessel
and i gotta stand by it, since 2010, the UNSC Army deserve just as much praise as the Marines
dapper gyro
Also, the Halo themselves are like Black fortresses level.
opaque coyote
Covenant weapons are quite insane.
Yea the Covenant weapons are definitely a huge gameplay vs lore dissonance
Since they are more powerful than UNSC weaponry lore wise
But we gotta have a balanced game
so
specialized instead
crisp heath
They melt flesh like 40k guns would but a whole army would have them even the scouts and shit would have these weapons
opaque coyote
I don't mind it or care. It's just an interesting thing
dapper gyro
Yea the Covenant weapons are definitely a huge gameplay vs lore dissonance
Sinc...
When I say plasma, I really mean covenant. Himan doesn't use plasma, but sheer volume of fire.
opaque coyote
Also, the Halo themselves are like Black fortresses level.
The Forerunners were fucking OP
And the flood decimated them
Apparently Chief's Mjonir armor was basically considered weak shit
crisp heath
The floods so cool
opaque coyote
Literally several magnitudes weaker than their REGULAR clothes
crisp heath
Left overs of a primeval being that created the universe
winter vessel
The floods so cool
the Mona Lisa? the one time Halo gave a dead space vibe
dapper gyro
and i gotta stand by it, since 2010, the UNSC Army deserve just as much praise a...
The Candians can call these dudes daddies.
opaque coyote
the Mona Lisa? the one time Halo gave a dead space vibe
Henry was the goat
Too bad there was only one escape pod
winter vessel
and it really gives a good perspective on normal humans. as spartans, the flood are formidable. but to the average jarhead? straight horror flick for the squad who boarded the ship
opaque coyote
and it really gives a good perspective on normal humans. as spartans, the flood ...
Master Chief canonically was terrified of the flood
crisp heath
Spartans are terrified of them too
winter vessel
yeah.
opaque coyote
Like that is legitmately one of the few times he genuinely felt fear
opaque coyote
but imagine
Yeah I think the introduction mission to the flood was great.
crisp heath
If they ever infected a spartan it would be over I think
winter vessel
no shielding, just you and your health bar
opaque coyote
I think the Marine undergoing PTSD was a nice touch
crisp heath
Cause I think they can produce replicas of forms they have infected?
dapper gyro
Chief also has serious ptsd.
winter vessel
If they ever infected a spartan it would be over I think
opaque coyote
Like he basically just starts shooting at you due to being so fucking panicked
crisp heath
Lore wise I don't think a spartans ever been infected tho
opaque coyote
I think the thing I hate the most about the Flood is the weird fucking
feather things
idk what to call it
crisp heath
Not to sure tho
dapper gyro
Cause I think they can produce replicas of forms they have infected?
Yes, they can absorb the experience and biomass of the spartan.
opaque coyote
Like that was a wonderful addition in Halo 3+ onwards when they redesigned the flood
and I fucking hate them
reminds me of sea coral though
dapper gyro
In the lore, Spartans can be infected and a few of them are.
crisp heath
The grave mind gow it started making prime flood was neat
opaque coyote
You think the Precursors were sea creatures?
winter vessel
Lore wise I don't think a spartans ever been infected tho
https://youtu.be/9H9Pj2YhpyQ?si=kKXCF_JUr7FMh46x listen to this. this was released along with a season launch for infinite
crisp heath
In the lore, Spartans can be infected and a few of them are.
Oh wow thats scary I didn't know that
opaque coyote
You think the Precursors were sea creatures?
Apparently this is what a precursor looked like
Although tbf this one is partially reanimated by the Flood
dapper gyro
Being a normal soldier in Halo is absolutely brutal.
winter vessel
and fighting them flood combat forms. my shotgun: my time to shine, assholes
opaque coyote
So maybe the reason why the flood forms have like
features exclusive to sea life
combined with the lore
maybe the Precursors were sea based
and that's why the flood has similar features to things like anemones
and coral
just fleshy and human colored
dapper gyro
Armored Core 6 is also an insane universe. An AC can destroy a 40k Titan easily imo.
winter vessel
a lot of the universe was altered once 343 took the reigns. before then, Forerunners really were ancient humanity and not a bunch of humanoids looking like Voldemort
opaque coyote
The flood after all are precursors
opaque coyote
a lot of the universe was altered once 343 took the reigns. before then, Forerun...
Honestly the Forerunners definitely changed from that in Halo 2
That definitely WAS the case in Halo 1 though
But Bungee changed from that in Halo 2 and 3
dapper gyro
12m tall mech moving at the speed of sound while still able to lock on other similar objects.
opaque coyote
Armored Core 6 is also an insane universe. An AC can destroy a 40k Titan easily ...
An EVA from Evangelion VS a regular Knight
winter vessel
Honestly the Forerunners definitely changed from that in Halo 2
i source it from the one line Guilty Spark gives Chief when he goes rampant "You are the child of my makers. Inheritor of all they left behind. You are Forerunner! But this ring... is mine!"
opaque coyote
Who do you think would win
dapper gyro
The Ice worm in Armored Core 6 is a crazy thing.
opaque coyote
i source it from the one line Guilty Spark gives Chief when he goes rampant "You...
Yeah, Halo 1 was written with humanity being forerunners in mind. That's why Guilty Spark mistaked Master Chief for a forerunner originally.
But Halo 3 retconned Guilty Spark's outbursts being him becoming insane
dapper gyro
Who do you think would win
EVA
shadow plover
Oh I see, it's time for the daily power scaling between universes discussion 
opaque coyote
Basically from the extra logs that you can find, Bungee definitely pivoted away from "forerunners being humanity" in 2
dapper gyro
EVA has crazy weaponry, speed and being biomechanical allows it to tank way more damage.
opaque coyote
EVA has crazy weaponry, speed and being biomechanical allows it to tank way more...
EVAs are also way more nimble as well
To be honest, always wanted to do something like
"Let's drop Godzilla into Terra and see how much damage he does before being defeated"
winter vessel
Yeah, Halo 1 was written with humanity being forerunners in mind. That's why Gui...
maybe so, the trilogy will always be Humanity being the true Forerunners of bungie's era before 343 took over to make some changes. i mean for goodness sake, they were auditioning roles for Chief's VA to be replaced in H4's production
dapper gyro
In Evangelion 3+1, you can see they have enough weapons to level metropolis cities.
opaque coyote
maybe so, the trilogy will always be Humanity being the true Forerunners of bung...
I definitely think that
Halo 4 was a good attempt
I'm not saying it's perfect
or even good
I'm just saying that I liked some of the shit it tried
Halo 5 definitely sucked ass
Halo Infinite's campaign was actually really fucking good. I still stand by that.
They dropped the ball with the multiplayer so bad though, that it permanently tarnished the game.
shadow plover
4 had excellent ideas going for it, 5 flushed them down the toilet, infinite made it all worthwhile
winter vessel
I liked it because it was a pivotal change In John's story, beneath the efficient warrior, is someone human. 5 made some setbacks. Infinite has made it...stable story wise
but didja have to go and fuck the Infinity over, 343?
dapper gyro
An EVA from Evangelion VS a regular Knight
Btw, EVA are way bigger than Imperial knight. They are 40k Titan level.
shadow plover
EVA are Eldar titans, next
opaque coyote
I liked it because it was a pivotal change In John's story, beneath the efficien...
I liked how Cortana and Chief's relationship was handled in 4
dapper gyro
Halo 4 story is good, but the gameplay is bad.
opaque coyote
Cortana was Chief's companion. She was there thick and thin. Through the Halo ring, through the invasion of Earth, through the covenant.
They did the impossible together.
...but there's something that both Chief and Cortana can't beat. Time.
dapper gyro
Halo 6 mp is actually decent, but MS doesn't want to focus on it.
winter vessel
as someone who's been a fan since before i could walk, I honestly fear for Halo's future. If Steven Downes were to go "missing in action" before Halo can make a very good lasting impact, the legacy will be disgraced. . (Exaggerating a lot, ik)
opaque coyote
Chief is getting older. His actions are weighing on him.
And then his best friend. His companion is dying.
shadow plover
Infinite mp is very good actually, among the best with 3 and Reach
opaque coyote
Infinite mp is very good actually, among the best with 3 and Reach
The issue is that 343 mismanaged it so badly it isn't funny
It's just garbage
Lack of content.
MTX up the ass.
Lack of support in general
shadow plover
Fair, also lots of the problems were caused by the troubles with the engine as well
and cycling workforce
winter vessel
Infinite took away what was precious to me since 2008
opaque coyote
Infinite took away what was precious to me since 2008
Real.
dapper gyro
H3 shotgun is shit.
winter vessel
Bulldog? more like BullSHIT
shadow plover
I personally don't mind the cosmetic MTX when the multiplayer and all the playable content is free
opaque coyote
Bulldog? more like BullSHIT
The Skewer is a nice consolation prize
dapper gyro
At least the mag feed makes it more versatile than the pocket sand in H3.
opaque coyote
Literally nailing your enemies in the wall is fun
dapper gyro
Reach has the worst mp imo.
opaque coyote
Heatwave is also fun as well
opaque coyote
Reach has the worst mp imo.
ARMOR LOCK!!!
winter vessel
shotguns have always been one of my favorite things to use in Halo (Spartan laser comes in second), i just like the power behind ever shot
shadow plover
4 was the forst mp by quite a large margin
winter vessel
Reach has the worst mp imo.
sorry to hear that, Reach was my golden years for MP
dapper gyro
**ARMOR LOCK!!!**
Not because of armour lock, but the weapon sandbox is just bad.
opaque coyote
sorry to hear that, Reach was my golden years for MP
Never really had golden years in Halo
In fact my first game was Halo 4
when Iwas 6
shadow plover
what are you 12
opaque coyote
I got stuck on like the second level
winter vessel
H2 when i was 4
shadow plover
no way H4 is that old...
winter vessel
2012
dapper gyro
Fuck I'm old...
shadow plover
yea, 6 years ago
opaque coyote
actually probably not 6
like
8-9 probably
idk all Ireally remember is jamming it in my 360
and then getting frustrated because the funny robot enemies killed me
then just playing minecraft
winter vessel
here's something that'll make ya feel old
shadow plover
I got a life time ban to Halo 4 (until the year 9999) before the game launched because I had access to the game prior to release and had to email 343 to let them know I had it through legit means...
dapper gyro
Oh, right, Gear universe is also brutal.
opaque coyote
Not because of armour lock, but the weapon sandbox is just bad.
As somebody who has played Reach.
Uhhhh
Yeah
Yeah I definitely agree it kinda sucked ass
A good chunk of the weapons were kinda useless even in singleplayer
winter vessel
Oh, right, Gear universe is also brutal.
some guy once told me "the logic behind attaching a chainsaw mechanism near the barrel, is ridiculous". I didn't care, i like using it because BRRRRR
shadow plover
tbf I think Infinite has the most complete weapon sandbox out of the halo games, it really doesn't have any useless weapons and every weapon fits a niche without too many overlaps
winter vessel
if only there were more...guns
dapper gyro
Yes, that's the reason I like H6.
winter vessel
Before Infinite i favored Covenant weapons a lot because of variety...this is just...
opaque coyote
tbf I think Infinite has the most complete weapon sandbox out of the halo games,...
Halo Reach's campaign is what I like the most overall. I guess it's just the hopeless feeling because ofi t.
shadow plover
Reach campaign is very good
opaque coyote
Everything is just going to shit. Your teammates die without much applause or fanfare. In fact, one literally dies without any.
winter vessel
think i spent more time using the Storm Rifle than i thought
opaque coyote
Even then most of them are quick. One moment they're there, and then next they're a corpse.
shadow plover
H2 campaign is probably the best of the mainline games
dapper gyro
Reach campaign is fine, but I don't like the level and mission design of it.
winter vessel
I admit, maneuvering the falcon in the campaign was tough
opaque coyote
H2 campaign is probably the best of the mainline games
I tried it on Legendary.
Do not try Halo 2 on legendary
shadow plover
yeah, do it on LASO instead
dapper gyro
Give you a sniper in close range map, who fail every shot. Then give you a cqb expert with shotgun in an open map...
opaque coyote
I admit, maneuvering the falcon in the campaign was tough
That falcon level can kiss my ass
shadow plover
Falcon level is fucking kino
opaque coyote
No wait I don't think it's the falcon
dapper gyro
It does make me feel helpless in legendary.
opaque coyote
I think it's the spaceship level
whatever
the one where you pilot the spacecraft
winter vessel
sabre
opaque coyote
I fucking hated that shit.
shadow plover
that one is very cool too
winter vessel
i actually had fun on that
dapper gyro
Tips of th Spear
opaque coyote
Apparently, in Legendary, the UNSC decided to give a Sabre made out of fucking paper mache and lint
winter vessel
think reach was the last time the Brute Spiker was used
opaque coyote
7 hours
7 fucking hours
just piloting the thing, and then seeing it vaporized by the covenant
Yeah fuck that level.
dapper gyro
I did all MCC legendary solo.
shadow plover
sounds like a skill issue...
winter vessel
Oh reach gauss hog, i miss you baby
opaque coyote
Weapon sandbox kinda sucks ass though. Like I said, a good chunk of the weapons are kinda useless.
Halo 2's campaign is actually pretty cool
The issue is the balancing
dapper gyro
Halo reach has the weakest AR of all Halo...
opaque coyote
Like I have never completed Halo 2 legendary.
Skill issue ik
But I genuinely had zero fun
dapper gyro
It is about as strong as the H2 SMG.
shadow plover
it used to be a yearly ritual with my pals to complete all halos on legendary in a single weekend
winter vessel
reach shotgun had my favorite design. looks more tactical
dapper gyro
Jackal sniper
winter vessel
but the biggest crime of gun design in Halo's history, this thing
opaque coyote
but the biggest crime of gun design in Halo's history, this thing
The Halo Infinite Pistol
Yeah
dapper gyro
Jackal sniper in H2 can make Vindicare assassin their bitch.
opaque coyote
You wanna know the worst part
The model for the pistol you know and love is on the marines
they just don't use it
because fuck you
winter vessel
yes.
least the marines themselves look better than 5
but i gotta say, the insurrectionist war era models were cooler
dapper gyro
H6 marines look the best.
crisp heath
Halo infinite had so much potential in the campaign to be way better than it was
dapper gyro
Not too heavily armoured.
winter vessel
this leans more into the sci fi aspect
crisp heath
It was good don't get me wrong but
dapper gyro
H2 and H3 marines make my knee hurt.
opaque coyote
least the marines themselves look better than 5
this is what it looked like pre redesign
winter vessel
H2 and H3 marines make my knee hurt.
h2's was rough
opaque coyote
I actually like this better
winter vessel
big boi
opaque coyote
also consider how big the thing must fucking be if it looks like this in a spartan's hands
literally a glock on steroids
crisp heath
It doesn't look as string as it shoots I reckon
Could have been beefier
More like a revolver
opaque coyote
The bottom is apparently supposed to be a flashlight
dapper gyro
this leans more into the sci fi aspect
Everything in Halo War looks heavier than the mainline.
crisp heath
Halo war did alot right I gotta say
winter vessel
The bottom is apparently supposed to be a flashlight
sidekick is just...so basic...its something i'd see a 1st grader doodle on the edge of his math quiz .M6 series was unique
winter vessel
fair nuff
dapper gyro
ODST it is barely a magnum.
dapper gyro
Reach it is a metal square.
winter vessel
it's there taunting me
you mean 5?
opaque coyote
Also there's this fucking thing but it's only a cosmetic
shadow plover
They also had the Halo Reach DMR but we can't use it
you can in multiplayer, if you mean Infinite
opaque coyote
Also there's this fucking thing but it's only a cosmetic
The M99A2S3 Stanchion.
dapper gyro
The DMR in H6 looks 95% the same as rhe reach one.
opaque coyote
"The Stanchion is built on a frame similar to that of the SRS99-AM sniper rifle. Unlike the SRS99, however, the Stanchion is a coilgun, and has more in common with Gauss cannons and larger naval guns in terms of operation than a regular firearm. The weapon is powered by an Asychronous Linear Induction Motor (ALIM), capable of accelerating its munitions to several thousand metres per second."
dapper gyro
The M99A2S3 Stanchion.
It is a rail gun in the lore.
opaque coyote
This thing sounds fucking awesome. It's basically a fucking RAILGUN.
But guess what how it was implemented in Infinite?
Cosmetic
winter vessel
fun fact, these three are still technically the youngest of their generation.
dapper gyro
it's a cosmetic
It should be. It really has no place in the weapon sandbox
shadow plover
eh I think it's fine having in lore things appear as cosmetics, even though having a new weapon would be cool
opaque coyote
It should be. It really has no place in the weapon sandbox
True.
shadow plover
this, there are enough long range killers already
winter vessel
opaque coyote
Maybe Halo 7 in 206532134
dapper gyro
H4 railgun is peak.
winter vessel
one gun i do like in both 4 and 5 was the SAW
shadow plover
well they are working on the UE5 Halo project, we'll see what it has in store for us
Never really like the SAW, doesn't feel like a halo weapon
winter vessel
well they are working on the UE5 Halo project, we'll see what it has in store fo...
keeping my expectations on a minimum for that one, first time i've done it for a Halo Project
dapper gyro
fun fact, these three are still technically the youngest of their generation.
I'm not sure that they are the youngest. They are the last to complete the S2 program because of their first augmentation failure.
shadow plover
I'm hopeful, Infinite is grasping at peak so don't think they'll return to the H5 lows at least
opaque coyote
Never really like the SAW, doesn't feel like a halo weapon
Always thought that you should be able to use a Chaingun as an actual weapon.
Like a weapon to can equip similar to a rocket launcher rather than ripping it off and using it as a limited
Why?
IDK I just think it'd be fun
winter vessel
I'm not sure that they are the youngest. They are the last to complete the S2 pr...
in the sense of like, normal aging, these guys were on ice for like 25 years after escaping Etran Harborage
then of course there was that brief flood oubreak
involving jerome and the
dapper gyro
If you count it like that.
opaque coyote
I'm hopeful, Infinite is grasping at peak so don't think they'll return to the H...
Infinite could've been peak if 343 knew how to manage content
Like
Why did Forge take so god damned long to come out my god
shadow plover
because the engine is shit
or shit to work with
and they keep using part time employees
winter vessel
then they also dropped the season stories involving our spartan and Agryna
dapper gyro
Outsourcing is the keyword.
shadow plover
so the skills to work with the engine keep having to be relearned every time a new person takes on the project
yes, it's a management issue but probably not the way you think it is
winter vessel
hehe
opaque coyote
Honestly Halo has two major problems
How 343 manages shit
And the fact that there are just as many grifters as fucking 40k
"IT'S THE WOKE MOB THAT'S RUINING HALO!!!!!"
winter vessel
laughs in SBI
opaque coyote
Also
“Now listen up! Back in my day, we didn’t have fancy tanks! We had two sticks and a rock for the entire platoon! And we had to share the rock! You should consider yourselves very lucky marines!”
shadow plover
if you don't notice it without dev tools is it really a problem? 
opaque coyote
if you don't notice it without dev tools is it really a problem? <:cool:90322341...
Yeah the guy that's talking is a Halo 3 modder
So
shadow plover
and I bet that map pushed the 360 to it's absolute limits so any resource saved is a save
winter vessel
Funny (and sad) how, the more my interest in Halo wanes, my interest in 40k continues to grow
opaque coyote
and I bet that map pushed the 360 to it's absolute limits so any resource saved ...
512 MB of VRAM moment
Yes that's how much the 360 had
shadow plover
it was enough at the time 
opaque coyote
Actually not VRAM
Shared RAM
How the fuck did Halo 4 look so good Jesus fucking christ
arctic talon
It was hard
Lmao
And they could still do split screen
Halo 4 is genuinely like
A technical marvel
shadow plover
yeah
worst issue about it was the awful jitter all the characters would get the further away they moved from the zero grid coordinates
arctic talon
I hope the next halo game has something like Warzone tbh
winter vessel
arctic talon
worst issue about it was the awful jitter all the characters would get the furth...
Yeah
opaque coyote
A technical marvel
Actual dark sorcery
arctic talon
But that’s a case of them literally pushing the 360 to it’s limits
shadow plover
iirc the jitter was a floating point error
arctic talon
But even bigger
opaque coyote
The gamemode in halo 5
Yeah I saw gameplay of that. Genuinely looks fun
arctic talon
iirc the jitter was a floating point error
Was it?
arctic talon
I thought it was due to culling
But man Warzone and Warzone firefight were good modes
It’s shocking to me warzone didn’t come back in infinite tbh
shadow plover
Not sure, I just remember reading something about it years ago, given how floats get less and less accurate the larger they become
arctic talon
Even if they removed all the req pack stuff
winter vessel
the maps were minted
arctic talon
Not sure, I just remember reading something about it years ago, given how floats...
Neat
opaque coyote
In general I'm just kinda frustrated that Halo 5 was such a fuck up
opaque coyote
Because of the concept of ONI going after Chief was fucking sick.
arctic talon
To dear god this is the most hideous thing ever
shadow plover
H5 had a pretty good 4v4 mp, but the other stuff wasn't as interesting
opaque coyote
The Campaign sucked ass
arctic talon
Idk Warzone was a lot of fun lol
And so was warzone firefight
I liked the giant bullet sponge bosses that 18 people shot at
winter vessel
To dear god this is the most hideous thing ever
don't get me started on the coffee machine
shadow plover
It was BTB on crack, reqs really didn't feel great
opaque coyote
Seriously whoever the fuck thought that shoving the same boss in like 50 fucking times was a good idea
Should've been thrown to the stratosohere
I would've preferred nothing
Or another room filled with enemies
winter vessel
Should've been thrown to the stratosohere
idk, doing assassination moves on Warden Eternal was pretty rewarding to do
arctic talon
It was BTB on crack, reqs really didn't feel great
Yes that’s why I liked it
It was BTB on meth
And I liked the little outpost things
shadow plover
Normal BTB is good fun for a few games but I always preferred 4v4 game modes
winter vessel
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
i like it because that was like the golden snitch of a warzone session when you're still neck and neck for points.
opaque coyote
I think that 343 needs just one game
shadow plover
Infinite has some fucking great designs
opaque coyote
One game without fucking up something massively
shadow plover
ass
opaque coyote
They got so close with Infinite
shadow plover
shadow plover
iirc 5 had a decent version of EOD
winter vessel
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/c/c5/MJOLNIR_Warrior.png/revision/...
this was my go to before getting the armor bundles for prefect, odst, and mark v
shadow plover
even more ass!
shadow plover
wide chin
arctic talon
I like it more then 3’s EOD lol
shadow plover
"we have EVA at home"
winter vessel
4's eva didn't sit right with me
winter vessel
air assault was the average joe for me
opaque coyote
I like Hermes.
opaque coyote
And also Copperhead
winter vessel
None of the halo 5 armor had cod pieces huh
the ones for noble team had em
besides carter since it was released base game
mark v for life
arctic talon
I like MKVII a lot tbh
It’s weird to me the MKVII helmet isn’t the default in infinite
winter vessel
i'm just an old dog, V has been my favorite since 3
arctic talon
Like why do you randomly have another helmet lol
I like MKVI more then V tbh
But nostalgia is prolly speaking
winter vessel
MK Vi is forever a staple in the Halo Franchise, but the mouth area makes me think of a dog, especially with the little black square
one thing i was glad in H5 was the models themselves. 4 was uh, something. their physique looked better when Halo 5 Guardians came around
arctic talon
All the Spartans in halo 5 have really nice asses lol
Or I guess both the male and female model
winter vessel
Or I guess both the male and female model
i remember looking at the goblin chest armor on the female model. i was like "wth are we even protecting at this point? its like 86 percent bodysuit at this point"
arctic talon
i remember looking at the goblin chest armor on the female model. i was like "wt...
It’s like that on the male model as well lol
celest dome
i remember looking at the goblin chest armor on the female model. i was like "wt...
Tramp stamp of Spartan armour
winter vessel
It’s like that on the male model as well lol
but yeah, H5 i think was probably the best in terms of a spartan's physique
crisp heath
Some of the infinite sets are gorgeous some look so bad
crisp heath
Yeah
shadow plover
never liked the bodysuit heavy look in 5
crisp heath
Some just don't work
arctic talon
never liked the bodysuit heavy look in 5
I don’t think anyone did
Tbh
It’s meant to be armor
crisp heath
Halo 3 Hayabusa was cool
arctic talon
It’s not a suit the same way like
crisp heath
V v hard to get
arctic talon
Some other sci-fi settings have it
shadow plover
the prestige of getting one was the only reason people thought it looked cool, thought it was one of the uglier sets in 3 
but Recon in the other hand
shadow plover
horrible
winter vessel
infinite's method is kinda strange. like, its not an outer layer and then inner layer appearance,
crisp heath
I never had it so i thought it was neat as
winter vessel
also the body types is just "weird"
crisp heath
I only really played reach multi-player onwards
crisp heath
Infinite had awesome multi-player just didn't have forge so ran out of content fast when I was playing
shadow plover
oh that's good
crisp heath
I hate that thing haha
winter vessel
Infinites proportions feel a little weird compared to 5
when you change types, the noticeable changes are the shoulders and waist, but even the waist is not that different. but the Shoulders? when you go to B type 1, the shoulders look smaller than the biceps
crisp heath
Manipulating ass bot
storm jungle
Naming your company after the piece of shit robot that tried to kill Chief and Co is crazy
arctic talon
Naming your company after the piece of shit robot that tried to kill Chief and C...
It’s based on god
storm jungle
no
arctic talon
I love 343 guilty spark lol
shadow plover
it is honestly pretty great
winter vessel
Naming your company after the piece of shit robot that tried to kill Chief and C...
i was 10, when i heard the name of the new company taking over Halo i was like PAUSE
storm jungle
jerk considering your Halo "takes" you are not allowed to speak
step into the incineration beam NOW
shadow plover
I will not accept slander from a CoD enjoyer
crisp heath
Guilty spark that's what he was called that's right
storm jungle
I LITERALLY ONLY LIKE THE FIRST GAMES
arctic talon
Yeah
winter vessel
Guilty spark that's what he was called that's right
es
storm jungle
WHO ARE UNIVERSALLY PRAISED
arctic talon
343 guilty spark is his full name
shadow plover
Nah
storm jungle
Yah
arctic talon
Also he lived halo 3 somehow
winter vessel
Exuberant Witness was sweet, i liked her in 5
arctic talon
Ask bungo
arctic talon
Exuberant Witness was sweet, i liked her in 5
Funny monitor
storm jungle
Hid in a fridge maybe?
arctic talon
I like the monitor in infinite as well
crisp heath
I remeber the library mission on halo 1 fkn infuriated me when I was a child kept getting lost
arctic talon
I forgot what his name is
winter vessel
Hid in a fridge maybe?
there's a whole ass story with him buddying up with Forge's daughter, Rian
storm jungle
yeee lmao
dapper gyro
Monitors are just servitors.
winter vessel
The soldier thingy
armigers
opaque coyote
I love 343 guilty spark lol
Honestly. His series of books was great
dapper gyro
Destiny is shit, but people have Stockholm syndrome.
opaque coyote
And done finished created storyline
Definitely. I think that's the most egregious flaw in the story
For Infinite
They literally handwaved it away
Like I get why tbh
storm jungle
nice coc-
shadow plover
warframe looking ass
opaque coyote
Cortana being revived was a shit choice
winter vessel
Infinite story, hands down, avenged the mess that happened in 5, my hope was rekindled.
crisp heath
343 should have gotten more into the flood ! Who cares about forerunners honestly
winter vessel
now its just, eh
storm jungle
Cortana being revived was a shit choice
Okay but she was thicc
opaque coyote
https://www.halopedia.org/File:Enc22_Spark.png
Honestly is it weird that I want to see him meet Chief again
crisp heath
The lore tho had the most potential
opaque coyote
If only because it would be funny
winter vessel
Okay but she was thicc
shadow plover
flood is a cool concept but it never was the highpoint of any halo game
opaque coyote
People really hated the halo 3 flood lol
I love the Halo 3 flood design.
Cortana (the level) is unfun though
storm jungle
they nerfed her GYATT
crisp heath
Honestly i hated fighting the forerunners
storm jungle
flood is a cool concept but it never was the highpoint of any halo game
it absolutely was
are you insane
lmao
shadow plover
fighting flood was never as fun as fighting the covenant, that is pretty universal take on them
opaque coyote
they nerfed her **GYATT**
Canonically Halo 5 Cortana is literally just a shard of Cortana Prime
storm jungle
"the flood werent the highpoint of any halo game" is like saying the titanic sinking wasnt the highlight of the entire journey
winter vessel
they nerfed her **GYATT**
that should've been the red flag for chief when he was trying to find her again
dapper gyro
Flood is the final boss of all halo games.
shadow plover
I didn't mean story wise
opaque coyote
"the flood werent the highpoint of any halo game" is like saying the titanic sin...
Highlight of the story for sure.
Gameplay not really.
shadow plover
but gameplay
opaque coyote
I doubt anybody had fun doing the Library in Halo 1
crisp heath
No there nor the highpoint but they could have done alot more with them
opaque coyote
arctic talon
Flood imo were extremely cool story wise
storm jungle
but gameplay
idk man every person i watch play Halo screams in fear when they see them
arctic talon
But my god pure forms in 3
storm jungle
arctic talon
Fucking kill me now
winter vessel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyUiu_2jjP8 you know the music, time to dance
storm jungle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyUiu_2jjP8 you know the music, time to dance
ah yes
fresh nightmares
arctic talon
opaque coyote
But my god pure forms in 3
Their introduction was definitely their best moment still
arctic talon
Yeah
opaque coyote
But gameplay wise they have some egregious moments.
The Library fucking sucks to play ngl.
arctic talon
The library is meant to be ass
crisp heath
I wish matercheif collection had better connection
shadow plover
you're willingly missing the point, flood are great. The concept of them is kino, execution is brilliant, but the mechanics of fighting flood in game has always been pretty middling
opaque coyote
Same with Cortana (the level) in Halo 3
storm jungle
you're willingly missing the point, flood are great. The concept of them is kino...
you are willingly missing the bullet im aiming for you rn so firstly hold still
crisp heath
So u could actually play the campaign w freinds
shadow plover
so are you saying you can't hit me
winter vessel
halo 3's flood was more traumatizing for me, because now i was able to SEE the transformation happen to my marines. My mother hen instincts were going overdrive to save them every time
storm jungle
So u could actually play the campaign w freinds
its possible
its just uh
you gotta deal with that 1 second input lag
arctic talon
Well
opaque coyote
The halo 3 flood were cool
I love the Halo 3 redesign of the flood.
storm jungle
your mom is a pureform
arctic talon
Pure form flood were ass
shadow plover
h3 flood are the best version of them yeah
arctic talon
your mom is a pureform
I’d hope not
winter vessel
Pure form flood were ass
wants to give you a hug
arctic talon
Literally the least annoying one tbh
Honestly if the pureforms had proper damage feedback I’d like them more
crisp heath
its possible
It kept dcing me 😭
opaque coyote
I’d hope not
Also the fact that one of Master Chief deaths is him getting taken over by the flood and walking around as a recently turned flood form
winter vessel
ranged one was a bit annoying for me
shadow plover
Honestly if the pureforms had proper damage feedback I’d like them more
that's pretty much the greatest issue with them
dapper gyro
wants to give you a hug
I didn't know that you are pure form, @storm jungle
shadow plover
only thing that looks like it's getting hurt is the ranged pure form
storm jungle
I didn't know that you are pure form, <@166943308231344128>
Nah im more like those big bloated things who still have a stretched tortured human face
winter vessel
I blame(thank) halo for my taste in women
arctic talon
Halo wars 2 flood were odd aesthetically
crisp heath
That mission where the flood help you to kill that prophet 👌
arctic talon
But also why do they glow
opaque coyote
Like on god this is terrifying
winter vessel
But like what’s with the glowy juice
PRIME
storm jungle
Me waking up to a friend invite and ping from a prick in Bookclub whos yapping about me "ruining" the ending of the night lords trilogy
arctic talon
winter vessel
the kids will go first
storm jungle
winter vessel
to become combat forms
shadow plover
fuck em kids
storm jungle
I like my Flood forms moldy bruh
winter vessel
arctic talon
opaque coyote
https://tenor.com/view/lunchly-mr-beast-logan-paul-ksi-thick-of-it-gif-263489434...
A kid immediately eats the moldy cheese
Halo 3 flood transformation
storm jungle
A kid immediately eats the moldy cheese
arctic talon
Oh also the banished in halo infinite were ass
They mostly look like shit
Why do they look like the covenant
winter vessel
"I hope she survived"
arctic talon
storm jungle
Why do they look like the covenant
I assume because they're ex-covenant
arctic talon
I’m killing whoever made that decision at 343 with a hammer
winter vessel
mercs
crisp heath
The banished was a really cool idea tho , the covenants over so had broken into a bunch of little factions
storm jungle
They aren’t
isnt that their entire lore
opaque coyote
They mostly look like shit
Honestly I think the worst part is that there is mention of humans being in the Banished
But they have no humans.
arctic talon
The fact they dress like the covenant is absurdly lame
Where’s the gunmetal steel, grey and red
storm jungle
you're absurdly lame
arctic talon
Shut
winter vessel
They don’t dress like the covenant
maybe it would've been confusing if all the enemy was RED, they had to do that color hierarchy thing
dapper gyro
So, would the flood be with Nurgle or with the Nids?
storm jungle
take your sextoy looking capital ships and be happy damn it
crisp heath
I HATED what the halo series did 🤦♂️
opaque coyote
Like it would've been interesting to see like
Banished humans shooting at us
storm jungle
So, would the flood be with Nurgle or with the Nids?
Nids probably
arctic talon
maybe it would've been confusing if all the enemy was RED, they had to do that c...
Make it go grey little red -> some red -> lots of red
storm jungle
they are a literal biological bioweapon
winter vessel
Make it go grey little red -> some red -> lots of red
yeah
arctic talon
One moment
celest dome
So, would the flood be with Nurgle or with the Nids?
They'd be their own factions, and they'd be threat to basically all the factions other than the Necron
arctic talon
Let me grab the concept art
opaque coyote
Nids probably
Tyraflood.
Floodnids?
crisp heath
So, would the flood be with Nurgle or with the Nids?
Neither I don't think
opaque coyote
Floodnids.
arctic talon
That makes me extremely angry
dapper gyro
They'd be their own factions, and they'd be threat to basically all the factions...
Flood can infect machines as well.
crisp heath
They would probably try to eat both
winter vessel
Let me grab the concept art
y'know damn well Jega'Rdomnai shopped at hot topic
arctic talon
celest dome
The moment the flood infect a Tyranid that has access to the Hive mind it's basically over for the Tyranids
crisp heath
Edge lord
crisp heath
The moment the flood infect a Tyranid that has access to the Hive mind it's basi...
True that actually
opaque coyote
y'know damn well Jega'Rdomnai shopped at hot topic
Escharum was genuinely a cool villain though
celest dome
Flood can infect machines as well.
Would they get the memory out of it too ?
opaque coyote
I like him
storm jungle
I thought that was an overweight ODST on the left for a second
winter vessel
yeah they did miss the mark with their aesthetic
dapper gyro
I think the Gravemind is strong enough to have psychic power against chaos.
storm jungle
yeah no
arctic talon
I thought that was an overweight ODST on the left for a second
LOL
dapper gyro
Would they get the memory out of it too ?
Yes
winter vessel
craig
storm jungle
the Flood if left unchecked would steamroll most shit in 40k
crisp heath
The grave mind can infect time and space
storm jungle
the problem is they barely have any weakpoints
storm jungle
The grave mind can infect time and space
^
arctic talon
crisp heath
Once it's string enough it can't be stopped
storm jungle
they arent a tabletop faction with written in "downsides"
winter vessel
https://halo.wiki.gallery/images/thumb/a/a7/PL_BondsOfBrotherhood.png/1280px-PL_...
Banished Drip
storm jungle
they are like Necrons if they didnt infight or have dementia lol
crisp heath
The only way to kill the flood is to kill everything in the universe so it has no food
storm jungle
^
opaque coyote
they arent a tabletop faction with written in "downsides"
I guess you could deal with them similarly to how Inquistor Kryptman did with the Nids
winter vessel
they are like Necrons if they didnt infight or have dementia lol
Flood in 40k, to them that's a whole ass buffet
arctic talon
opaque coyote
AKA
arctic talon
No banished scarab
storm jungle
theres a reason the games have you stopping singular infections, the moment a single infector form is loose in a Hive its literally game over lol
opaque coyote
BOMB THE PLANET INTO OBLIVION
arctic talon
winter vessel
theres a reason the games have you stopping singular infections, the moment a si...
much less the spores
crisp heath
I think even after the halo event there's still spores around
opaque coyote
No banished scarab
The scarabs were like the coolest things in Halo 3.
With multiple ways to take them down and everything
storm jungle
considering theres literally spores all around us rn yeah i dont doubt it lol
arctic talon
I like the sound effects the banished scarab makes in the RTS
crisp heath
Waiting for life or did they spread again after the halo event cause of the labs that were researching them on tbe forunner installations?
arctic talon
It sounds like it’s screaming
arctic talon
And also how the beam works
Tbh
I like how it drips plasma fucking everywhere when it walks
opaque coyote
Scarabs you can go on and destroy in different ways
winter vessel
arctic talon
And the beam takes a moment to like
Fully turn on
The banished in halo infinite are way too clean
They don’t feel rugged
opaque coyote
"Fun" fact.
The reason why Kat didn't have a shield blocking the shot was due to the Glassing EMP temporarily short circuiting it
crisp heath
They should feel like pirates
arctic talon
Yeah instead they just feel like covenant 2
opaque coyote
Also the Elite that did the shot was hunting us
crisp heath
Naw Kat would have died regardless I think
winter vessel
They don’t feel rugged
right? its like they lacked the gritty and hardened appearance
crisp heath
Took a shot to the back of the head
opaque coyote
Naw Kat would have died regardless I think
Maybe. But either way the shield being disabled didn't help
The energy shields specifically
winter vessel
"Fun" fact.
The reason why Kat didn't have a shield blocking the shot was due t...
i used to think it was a lame way to die. But a military veteran pointed out that "that's about as real as it gets. 1 minute your buddy is with you. the next second, they're gone"
dapper gyro
Flood Space Marines vs Nurgle Death guard.
arctic talon
right? its like they lacked the gritty and hardened appearance
Why are they so matte lol
Like the metal
storm jungle
you literally would have no idea when you get domed by a sniper in an open area like that lol
arctic talon
It’s also so weirdly smooth
winter vessel
you literally would have no idea when you get domed by a sniper in an open area ...
RIP...Gyatt-B320
crisp heath
I dont even think you hear the shot that kills you
opaque coyote
it being so random is what got me
Most of the deaths were sudden and had little fanfare.
Even Carter on some level
storm jungle
especially right through the brain like Kat
arctic talon
Like the halo wars 2 ones look like they welded extra shit on lol
winter vessel
Why are they so matte lol
its got that pastel look
opaque coyote
Because like. In the previous level he's fine
crisp heath
Maybe a split second of hot burning then black
opaque coyote
And then as soon as you start the next
He's literally fucking dying
Due to a stray bullet
He just made sure his life would be spent well
winter vessel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q5bxu7SGOU and then there's...
crisp heath
Who was your guys fav noble team member
Mine was Emile or George
If I had to pick george
dapper gyro
In the lore, the power shield is not that strong except for one time, in a book, it was able to tank 50mm auto cannon. However, I think that thing was firing 50mm potato.
storm jungle
Who was your guys fav noble team member
Gorge because im a sucker for the gentle-giant trope
crisp heath
The covenant had way better Sheilds than the unsc
celest dome
Kat, love people with augmentics
dapper gyro
50mm auto cannon would destroy pretty much everything, even tanks.
It was Chief's shield in that book btw.
crisp heath
Probably take a banshee down if you get the right spot
Those are rhe scorpion turret cannons hey?
dapper gyro
Chief was fighting human rebels.
winter vessel
Carter had that sass when he was speaking to Halsey
dapper gyro
Scorpion has 120mm gun.
crisp heath
That's a big barrel
dapper gyro
Though, in most books, spartan has a good chance to win against Elites, but by no mean easy for them.
They never really fight brutes head on either.
crisp heath
Halo had some pretty good books nearly as good as black library ones
storm jungle
it sucks because no one reads Halo books
crisp heath
I'm pretty sure I read one yeaaars ago
storm jungle
dapper gyro
Halo brutes is as strong as ogryn, but smarter.
celest dome
I think I've read 1 of the series, but didn't do any of the other
crisp heath
Brutes in the lore are the worst covenant to fight
winter vessel
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
First one I read was “The Flood” followed by Evolutions
storm jungle
Halo brutes is as strong as ogryn, but smarter.
Monke power
opaque coyote
Who was your guys fav noble team member
Oscillating between Jorge and Emilie.
celest dome
There are Starcraft books ?
I knew for Warcraft
winter vessel
I have StarCraft books.
Do you know the title of the book that focuses on Raynor and Findlay after they became fugitives, can’t remember
opaque coyote
Halo brutes is as strong as ogryn, but smarter.
Also more intelligent due to the fact that they actually did get to our technology level
...
Before nuking themselves back to the stone age
crisp heath
If the brutes could get along everyone's f'd 😆
opaque coyote
Yeah their home planet was basically the average 40k death world
dapper gyro
Do you know the title of the book that focuses on Raynor and Findlay after they ...
Heaven's Devil
crisp heath
I mean after halo 2 we saw what they were capable off 😆
Literally overthrew the sanghelli
winter vessel
Yeah their home planet was basically the average 40k death world
Can’t be as bad Balaho. Even before the grunts joined(conscripted) with the covenant their planet was already a shithole
crisp heath
The grunts story is really sad
When they tried to rebell against the covenant the forst time
opaque coyote
I kinda felt bad for Escharum.
Like his home planet was literally blown up by the Created.
His entire plan was literally to die in a blaze of glory.
Either Chief dies or he dies.
crisp heath
I also feel sorry for the engineers
opaque coyote
Emphasis on kinda though. 95% of brutes are assholes and Escharum is no exception
dapper gyro
Halo is brutal.
opaque coyote
But I can't help but feel a bit bad for him. The man basically had nothing left
dapper gyro
Planet destruction weapons are not that uncommon.
crisp heath
Brutes make really good villans too i reckon
Was cool how u had to hunt the banished down in infinite
opaque coyote
Was cool how u had to hunt the banished down in infinite
The unique weapon system was cool
crisp heath
I liked the grapple hook alot haha
dapper gyro
UNSC Nova bomb can destroy a planet and its moon.
opaque coyote
Planet destruction weapons are not that uncommon.
The Imperium could just nuke planets but they
Y'know
Need the planet not a wasteland
To produce shit
So
winter vessel
Despite the evident loss the UNSC forces took on zeta halo, I gotta give credit where it’s due. And my opinion of IVs shifted from what we could piece together from recordings and bodies we found. That and the Rubicon book of course
dapper gyro
Covenant mothership can glass a planet with a single beam.
crisp heath
It takes several ships to glass a planet doesn't it
opaque coyote
Despite the evident loss the UNSC forces took on zeta halo, I gotta give credit ...
Yeah the IVs canonically are war vets transformed into super humans.
It's just that their writing was kinda
Eeehhhhh
Until Infinite
crisp heath
Or they usually do it en mass
dapper gyro
Small ships, yes. But bigger ships, nah.
crisp heath
Ahhh
opaque coyote
Hell I think there were some good books about it
crisp heath
So that massive ship that won the space battle in reach probably could
The one they snuck there
dapper gyro
Nah, that's a small one.
opaque coyote
343 needs to actually show the Interlude instead of just shoving it into a book.
Like I would've loved to see the Banished and the Created duke it out
winter vessel
Until Infinite
Thorne was my only exception when he was introduced in 4 Spartan Ops. Humble, but using skills and abilities that have been given to him to become an efficient soldier. Not cocky like the others
dapper gyro
One of the smallest class btw.
opaque coyote
Actually my main problem is that the created are just
Defeated
winter vessel
Mhmm
crisp heath
Damn
opaque coyote
I don't mind Cortana's second death but it would've been interesting to see the Created still be ghere
winter vessel
Sloane I think has become the de facto leader of his remnants
opaque coyote
Like there are replacement leaders.
winter vessel
Outside of that, yeah the other Created AI have just become warlords
crisp heath
Cause that ship was wayyy bigger than anything the unsc had at that time by heaps
opaque coyote
Outside of that, yeah the other Created AI have just become warlords
Would've been interesting if we got a 3 way battle between
The UNSC, the created, and the Banished
winter vessel
Would've been interesting if we got a 3 way battle between
The UNSC, the create...
So then Big E’s empire outlived Cortana’s empire 🤣
opaque coyote
Bungee loved having Insane AI. Marathon is known to be
Extremely ambitious in it's story telling and extremely confusing
But that's also where shit like Rampancy came up
Durandal is still one of my favorite AIs.
Well next to Shodan
crisp heath
Havbt heard rhar game in along time
opaque coyote
Shodan is still top in terms of AI villains
Btw System Shock remake is peak
"WELCOME TO THE THRONE ROOM OF GOD, MORTAL."
crisp heath
Never played aystem shock
dapper gyro
Cause that ship was wayyy bigger than anything the unsc had at that time by heap...
The Pillar of autumn is about as big as that covenant ship.
crisp heath
I thought it was way bigger
My bad
I was picturing it like atleast a half of reachs size hahah
opaque coyote
Never played aystem shock
You should.
I think my favorite part about Shodan is that
Most AI are written to be as inhuman and machine like as possible
But Shodan has the opposite problem. On some level she is too human
She is narcissistic, petty, vindictive
She has a god complex bigger than the Emperor's affinity for gold
crisp heath
Sounds like a neat villain
I like story's that use ai like that
The idea is terrific
opaque coyote
Sounds like a neat villain
She also lobotomized most of the space station into being cyborgs.
Just enough emotion to praise her and worship her
But not enough to remember what they are
opaque coyote
Basically she turned all of the space station's population into servitors
That worship her
crisp heath
Have u had those rare dialog lines w the med stations in darktide?
crisp heath
Very grim
opaque coyote
Also love how the characters literally just say nothing
Out of the thousands of voice lines talking about different shit. There's no reaction to the servitor begging for death
Which shows that
"Yeah this is normal. My vending machine also does this"
forest orbit
to be fair thats kind of the thing
you get used to the presence of servitors
which itself is fucked up
crisp heath
LOADING SCREENS BE LIKE
"REMORSE IS WEAKNESS"
dapper gyro
Remorse is doubt, doubt is weakness.
crisp heath
Lobotomy has made a big comeback in the 41st millenia
opaque coyote
Lobotomy has made a big comeback in the 41st millenia
It never left
forest orbit
my favorite has to be "Beware the heretic's words. Equality, justice, tolerance. These are the seeds of damnation"
like jesus
forest orbit
I DIDNT MEAN IT LIKE THAT
crisp heath
I think to be fair they mean alien or heretic
opaque coyote
my favorite has to be "Beware the heretic's words. Equality, justice, tolerance....
Yeah I think the saddest part is that
People actually say this shit unironically irl
crisp heath
Oh wow
forest orbit
Yeah remember
its the heretics within and without
you cannot even trust your "fellow man"
"with us or against us" kind of thing
crisp heath
I guess it is a technological darkness shrouded in superstition
dapper gyro
Innocence proves nothing
crisp heath
Dark age*
celest dome
Yes, no heretics here, no need to look further
opaque coyote
I guess it is a technological darkness shrouded in superstition
Nah that already past. It's pretty much stagnant
forest orbit
Innocence proves nothing
School principal ahh quote
opaque coyote
School principal ahh quote
"But teacher. He literally hit me-"
++INNOCENCE PROVES NOTHING++
dapper gyro
Purging is equality.
opaque coyote
never the troublemaker, always the reciever
Zero tolerance ahh
"Oh you didn't even fight back? Too bad, you're both getting detention"
Fucking US schooling man
dapper gyro
Nah that already past. It's pretty much stagnant
Not even, it is a recession.
opaque coyote
Yeah 40k is less advanced than 30k.
At least in some minor sectors
I think generally it's the same
forest orbit
Kind of
30k itself mostly just had a ton more WMDs/legions
it was still about as regressed
dapper gyro
But it is way less than 20k, the peak of humanity.
opaque coyote
Yeah 30k could be considered them trying to climb out of the dark sges
Only to
Fail
dapper gyro
Custodes are 20k tech.
opaque coyote
Although even the Drukhari are also regressing tech wise
forest orbit
Custodes are 20k tech.
Not as much.
opaque coyote
And they're the most technically advanced
forest orbit
they are peak genetic science but like they arent infallible like most DAOT stuff
opaque coyote
Not as much.
I'd say the Emperor invented them.
arctic talon
Although even the Drukhari are also regressing tech wise
They’re not psykers
forest orbit
I'd say the Emperor invented them.
Well yeah he did
arctic talon
So they can’t use their best stuff lol
arctic talon
All the good shit needs you to be a Psyker
forest orbit
unlike the craftworlds who purposefully regressed to be not like the Empire
opaque coyote
So they can’t use their best stuff lol
Also I'm pretty sure they're also forgetting to make it in the first place
arctic talon
The craftworlds also never had the really good stuff
Since they’re a bunch of doomsday preppers
forest orbit
SOME do but like it isnt much, they are a post-scarcity society so they pretty much got all they need.
arctic talon
Yeah
forest orbit
theres a reason unless you are attacked living in a craftworld is literally the best life in 40k
opaque coyote
unlike the craftworlds who purposefully regressed to be not like the Empire
Although tbf that's kinda out of necessity.
They just got the shit that would last the most and give the least amount of chance to get Slaanesh'd
forest orbit
Although tbf that's kinda out of necessity.
They just got the shit that would l...
Well yeah they dont wanna become as hedonistic again
any successful civilization grows indulgent and rotten
history has plenty of examples of people doing horrific stuff out of "boredom"
opaque coyote
Although for Humanity, it kinda isn't their fault
opaque coyote
Yeah
arctic talon
Tbh craftworlders are pretty hedonistic by human standards
opaque coyote
We don't have enough detail but we can't blame humanity for fucking up that much because a lot of it seemed to be
Out of their control.
arctic talon
Fair
forest orbit
but it mostly boils down to like
arctic talon
But like no normal humans going to be downing that much alcohol or drugs lol
forest orbit
"they can do whatever they want whilst we cant"
forest orbit
But like no normal humans going to be downing that much alcohol or drugs lol
Lmao yeah they benefit from being advanced aliens
forest orbit
like an Eldar can literally study half the majors we got because they live long lives
we can only manage maybe a few
opaque coyote
"they can do whatever they want whilst we cant"
Also the fact that Eldar can just
Feel more.
Like they have more intense experiences
forest orbit
lol
forest orbit
arctic talon
All they do is chug alcohol and smoke super meth
dapper gyro
Bdsm time in lore chat again.
forest orbit
real lorechat hours
opaque coyote
Where’s the torture
Imagine a Ex-Drukhari going to a craftworlder party and being like
forest orbit
I could be productive and paint minis but
queen laurel
like an Eldar can literally study half the majors we got because they live long ...
They can literally just outskill us and be so perfect at the things we do
dapper gyro
I could be productive and paint minis but <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Now you will be reproductive.
queen laurel
it's funny
arctic talon
Let ADB write his Drukhari romance novel
arctic talon
Lol
opaque coyote
Let ADB write his Drukhari romance novel
Honestly I just think it'd be funny to see an Ex-Drukhari deciding to defect to a craftworld
And just
Trying to get used to everything
arctic talon
Imagine a Ex-Drukhari going to a craftworlder party and being like
Mfw a vast majority of the leaders of the ynnari are drukhari
dapper gyro
Is that the thing with Lilith?