"which tank was better" instead of which performed its role better
#40k-lore-chat
opaque coyote
Being cheap and quickly out of the field
While at the same time being effective enough
crystal forum
early T34's were meant to fight directly next to where they were manufactured lol
the design was improved over the war which people keep forgetting
opaque coyote
"which tank was better" instead of which performed its role better
USA with the Sherman.
Gets a bad rap for being a "death trap" but that's mainly survivorship bias.
The fact that they managed to live through the tank getting put through the wringer proves that it isn't a death trap
crystal forum
countries STILL use the t-34-85
opaque coyote
early T34's were meant to fight directly next to where they were manufactured lo...
The funniest and cruelest part is that they weren't even painted due to that
Usually that would cause issues, especially in Russia's cold environment
But due to the close proximity.
It didn't really matter since they were expected to
Be destroyed by the Germans
They often didn't live long enough to get effected
crystal forum
USA with the Sherman.
Gets a bad rap for being a "death trap" but that's mainly...
the issue is tank nerds barely care about actually learning the history they supposedly enjoy. people compare every tank to the tiger 1 which was meant to be a tank destroyer while shermans were in general meant for destroying bunkers and infantry suppression
people love watching tanks shoot eachother despite that being a minor part of their intended use
opaque coyote
the issue is tank nerds barely care about actually learning the history they sup...
Also the fact that the standardization helped America a lot during the war
Mainly because if there was an improvement that was needed
It would be applied to every new tank
Meanwhile the Germans kept changing things
crystal forum
america wasn't even capable of fielding heavy tanks at that point due to the fact that everything they made had to be shipped to europe
arctic talon
That applied to most war material on the western front tbf
crystal forum
soviets, germans and even the british had their heavy tanks
america was not capable due to weight limits
but history has literally shown that heavy tanks arent as good as they seem to be
yet people STILL obsess over them
crystal forum
which is why the same old stories of tanks surviving hundreds of shells are regurgitated
you know what's better than surviving getting shot? not getting shot at all
arctic talon
Yeah but that doesn't play into the mental thing of what some people percieve tanks as
ignoring the fact that most tanks eat like 2 shells at most before they're just done
crystal forum
you know what's the hardest thing to convince people of?
tanks can't win wars alone
i swear people think tanks can claim entire cities on their own
south gorge
People like the idea of the big brick that cannot die
This also applies to people lol
opaque coyote
People like the idea of the big brick that cannot die
It's why sword nerds like big ass swords
south gorge
Like the person as the big brick
opaque coyote
because even though big swords aren't practical in the slightest
and most of them were made for decorative purposes
at the same time
fuck they are so cool
south gorge
Some big swords were made for like shugoki type mfs though tbf.
arctic talon
I think its funny as shit that in Metaphor refantazio the description for the starting greatsword for a party member is that "its never seen a day of actual combat"
crystal forum
"oh no, whatever shall i do against this tanks right next to me"
south gorge
People see a tall person and think basketball player
arctic talon
Its a big ass ceremonial sword from their noble family they nabbed lol
south gorge
I think about how they could’ve been top warmongers in my raiding troope.
crystal forum
if only there was a way for infantry to easily kill tanks foolish enough to go into close quarters
if only there was a weapon made to kill tanks, used by infantry
opaque coyote
Some big swords were made for like shugoki type mfs though tbf.
Sawfish Blades are super fucking cool
crystal forum
i cant think of a single man portable anti tank device
arctic talon
if only there was a way for infantry to easily kill tanks foolish enough to go i...
(the shaped charge)
south gorge
if only there was a way for infantry to easily kill tanks foolish enough to go i...
The AA rifle next to me:
crystal forum
what?
opaque coyote
Sawfish Blades are super fucking cool
Looks straight out of monster hunter
opaque coyote
Impractical and would probably break against armor
However in Oceania, people did make weapons out of them
So
They might be useful in unarmored combat
crystal forum
wait guys im still trying to think of a single man portable anti tank device
opaque coyote
wait guys im still trying to think of a single man portable anti tank device
idk man i don't think such a thing exists....
give up
😦
crystal forum
btw did yall know the panzershreck had the shield because the missile would burn your face off
the missile launcher was originally made to be used stationary on a carriage
before they came up with the shield, soldiers had to use a gas mask to cover their face
opaque coyote
There's also the Grutte Pier Bearing Sword
crystal forum
super convenient
opaque coyote
fun fact, it's technically longer than Gut's Dragonslayer.
crystal forum
btw the saw shark sword was mostly ceremonial afaik
opaque coyote
btw the saw shark sword was mostly ceremonial afaik
ye i am aware
it also looks really fucking cool
crystal forum
it does
wait
ok if i cant think of a single infantry held anti tank device then maybe i can think of a easily portable anti tank weapon
but i cant find any
if only tanks had a single weakness
btw that's a pak 88
my favorite pak because it's absurd
you rarely see it depicted
it's absolutely humongous
this is just like 5 years of technological progress
WW2 was insane
opaque coyote
On another topic
Here's the Sword of Goujian
This sword is mainly made of bronze with blue crystals and turquoise decoration
Bronze is extremely resistant to corrosion, and tarnishes in a way which discolors the metal but wouldn't harm its edge. The surprising thing about this blade is that it's still vividly bronze-colored.
arctic talon
Feels cursed
opaque coyote
It’s sheath was so well made that it was hermetically sealed since it was buried. Hence the hilt being oxidized and the blade in perfect shape.
opaque coyote
Feels cursed
It was in an underground tomb
for over 2000 years.
And said underground tomb was basically soaked with underground water
The Blade is basically untarnished
and still sharp
crystal forum
medieval japanese putting all the effort in the world to work with shitty materials and still have good results
pretty admirable
the time investment must have been absurd though
opaque coyote
medieval japanese putting all the effort in the world to work with shitty materi...
Yeah folding was pretty much their way of making the metal work for them
opaque coyote
the time investment must have been absurd though
1000%
crystal forum
that's bronze so i assume it's early medieval japanese
or i guess ceremonial
i didnt even know japan had bronze
where did they get the tin
opaque coyote
also apparently here's what the ancient chinese wording on it means
crystal forum
why does it look like a gladius
i barely know chinese history
it doesnt have a crossguard so i assume it was intended for war
opaque coyote
why does it look like a gladius
These type of swords are specifically called Jian
Which specifically have straight blades
and the guards were often small to non-existent
crystal forum
so meant for cutting
i assume
or hacking / slashing
but looks really ornate for a war weapon
soooo could also be meant for officers
plush mason
so meant for cutting
for both judging by the shape of the tip but the length leands more to cutting yeah
opaque coyote
and Goujian himself was a rather interesting character tbh
"Whilst ruling his kingdom, Goujian never relished kingly riches, but instead ate food suited for peasants, as well as forcing himself to taste bile, in order to remember his humiliations while serving under the State of Wu. The second half of a Chinese idiom, wòxīn-chángdǎn (臥薪嚐膽, "sleeping on sticks and tasting gall"), refers to Goujian's perseverance.[2]
After ten years of economic and political reforms, the last phase of the war began, by which time the State of Yue had come a long way from its previous defeat; as described in the Shiji (in the biography of Fan Li), "Ten years of reforms; the state is rich, the warriors well-rewarded. The soldiers charge in the face of arrows like thirsty men heading for drink..." (修之十年，國富，厚賂戰士，士赴矢石，如渴得飲).[3]"
crystal forum
reward people for their work and suddenly they want to do everything you say
let's cut their salaries instead
opaque coyote
reward people for their work and suddenly they want to do everything you say
He was also ruthless. But tbf that goes for
most Chinese kings
"After his victory, Goujian ruthlessly killed Fuchai's scholars, even those who helped him (including Bo Pi), not allowing himself to make the same mistake Fuchai had made by sparing the lives of his enemies. However, Goujian would not stop there; he would later force Wen Zhong to commit suicide. Fan Li, knowing that Goujian was a man with whom one can share woe but not wealth together, left Goujian after the defeat of Wu."
crystal forum
not saying he was good since i know nothing of him
but it's a general rule that people will follow you if you give material rewards for their labour
opaque coyote
not saying he was good since i know nothing of him
IK dw. Kings are often not good people after all.
but yeah generally he knew that
"Pay people = loyalty"
opaque coyote
To add to the story, the smith who created the sword of Goujian actually made two blades. The second was a spear crafted for Goujian’s enemy, and that spearhead has also survived to the modern day (albeit in far worse condition). This means that the smith was playing both sides, making masterfully crafted weapons for two warring kings.
crystal forum
makes sense
to be clear it seems he was making ceremonial weapons
it's not like he was arming their troops
opaque coyote
And finally, despite being heavily decorated, the sword probably tasted blood.
Goujian was enslaved by Wu, made to kiss his ass for three years, including literally eating his shit.
It's also clearly a more practical design minus the decorative parts.
So...
I think he was specifically eyeing for a specific throat
In an unrelated note, Sword carrying is legal in Texas
opaque coyote
to be clear it seems he was making ceremonial weapons
And finally, the sword cut one of the archelogists that found the damned thing
It's probably the closest thing we can unironically get to like
"A legendary magical sword that's thousands of years old"
crystal forum
should have worn gloves
crystal forum
In an unrelated note, Sword carrying is legal in Texas
im pretty sure it's legal in most places
crystal forum
polish saber fighting is terrifying
it's all supposed to be meant for cutting people's arms
also fencing is gay as hell
it's so far away from actual dueling
you just have to hit the opponent first
no care for if the opponent kills you a millisecond afterwards
crystal forum
of course not
but it obviously has roots in dueling
and it's just stupid these days imo
it's people bum rushing eachother
you should have to like, hit somebody and not get hit for at least 2 seconds afterwards
i can't be the only one who finds it so utterly dumb that they sprint at eachother just to touch the electric sensor first
dusk patrol
Yeah its goofy.
arctic talon
this is why I do archery
I can just shoot arrows at a target 
and then be sad when my grouping is terrible
dusk patrol
crystal forum
this is why I do archery
i did archery for a bit as a teen
dusk patrol
Rogue Trader doing a survey for the next dlcs
crystal forum
didn't like putting that much effort to pull back the string
dusk patrol
And what the community wants
crystal forum
i wish i could have shot guns instead
crystal forum
i cant open the link
arctic talon
guh
dusk patrol
That cause it checks to see if you're a child molestor first
crystal forum
maybe my VPN
dusk patrol
maybe my VPN
probably
dusk patrol
I voted for all the weird ones
Hrud, Rak'gol, Sslyth
More stuff we haven't seen much of.
Its gonna be Tau and Orks but
I can try
storm jungle
Modern Fencing isn’t like an actual duel no?
We need more sword duels where the contestants will actually die.
I need blood for my entertainment not this careful swan feet tappy shit
crystal forum
yup it was my VPN
anyways
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
A ROGUELIKE MODE
I WILL KILL DILARA FOR IT
median star
crystal forum
also holy shit
half of these i dont even know
none of them have had any appearances for the past 20 years
i can specifically choose the guevesa
and i did
and finally
alright im done
storm jungle
half of these i dont even know
Read more lore you fuck
sly ivy
Read more lore you fuck
Will u or someone please finally teach me how to read
median star
time to put (other) "iron hands" under every option
i have the game but have still yet to even play it
sly ivy
Man landing owlcat was such a win
dusk patrol
time to put (other) "iron hands" under every option
No you gotta put Medusa under the locations one.
And put "Iron Hands romance" under the content suggestions.
median star
no i want the location to be a big iron hand 
shell mason
yk
storm jungle
no lol
arctic talon
originally rat people in space yeah
unsure if they were actually skaven since not enough lore
rose thorn
I saw the new combat patrol for WE
It’s probably the worst one I’ve ever seen
Genuine THE WORST
WE fans don’t look
It’s that bad
opaque coyote
WE fans don’t look
the pixel harvest seems low today
arctic talon
It’s probably the worst one I’ve ever seen
Its a fake
btw
its using the wrong Helbrute scheme
Its straight from the webstore
its literally the webstore helbrute
And the units are obviously photoshopped
Because of how fucked the lighting is
opaque coyote
its literally the webstore helbrute
Why the fuck does he have a bayonet on his Machine Gun
dusk patrol
The four pixels in the corner that are vaguely helbrute shaped give it away.
arctic talon
Why not
opaque coyote
Morei mportantly how the fuck does he even like
arctic talon
Stab the fucker
dusk patrol
Why the fuck does he have a bayonet on his Machine Gun
Why do you think
opaque coyote
Grab... stuff?
dusk patrol
He's a Khornate Helbrute
dusk patrol
He doesn't grab, he kills
opaque coyote
He kills shit
Fair enough but you still need to grab the skulls...
dusk patrol
Crimson slaughter aren’t khornate
Yeah and Tom Cruise isn't buried deep in the Thetan closet
opaque coyote
mechandrite tentacle hand
dusk patrol
That is funny though
They look more Khornate than a lot of Khornate factions lol.
opaque coyote
They look more Khornate than a lot of Khornate factions lol.
wait they aren't
arctic talon
Nah
dusk patrol
Nah
opaque coyote
dude they look so khornate
dusk patrol
Tbf its mostly the red
arctic talon
Yeah
dusk patrol
If you changed that, they look a bit more ambigueous.
opaque coyote
They’re Slaanesh/Nurgle/Khorne
Damn, they really hate Tzeentch.
dusk patrol
Even they have standards
opaque coyote
Also this looks fucking awesome
That big horned Chaos Marine looks like he's having fun
dusk patrol
opaque coyote
Like the Dark Angel looks angry and dignified while for the Chaos Guy I just get the vibe of
dusk patrol
I really like this piece.
opaque coyote
"YES! THIS IS IT! THIS IS THE BEST TIME OF MY FUCKING LIFE!"
opaque coyote
I really like this piece.
who's on the right
arctic talon
who's on the right
Metalica admech
Ngl crimson slaughter are so funny
They’re this random ass warband who gets a bunch of love from GW
opaque coyote
are the serfs just
casually grabbing shit from the dead CSMs
also this is Dark angels I assume?
dusk patrol
Trophies and shit
And yeah
DA are commonly depicted fighting Crimson Slaughter and have a few notable fights with them.
opaque coyote
Trophies and shit
I mean I can imagine some SM chapters grabbing CSM shit
And then after some purification
a new coat of paint
chopping some spikes off
and it's just like new!
opaque coyote
DA are commonly depicted fighting Crimson Slaughter and have a few notable fight...
i need to research the crimson slaughter
they look awesome
opaque coyote
Y'know how there are like
Channels where they derust and refurbish old knives, weapons, etc.
I'm now imagining just... a youtube channel where they do that but for chaos weapons
storm jungle
They look more Khornate than a lot of Khornate factions lol.
I love how much like
GW pushed Crimson Slaughter
then they just kinda disappeared
like they still appear in recent events but barely most of the larger newer fanbase knows about them now lol
opaque coyote
I'm now imagining just... a youtube channel where they do that but for chaos wea...
10,000 YEAR OLD CHAOS INFECTED ANGELUS BOLTER MACHINE SPIRIT - RESTORED!
arctic talon
Poster child for 2 editions before being kicked to the curb lol
storm jungle
The thing people love more than to see a hero succeed
is to watch a faction fail
die trying
opaque coyote
Poor crimson slaughter
Just as planned.
storm jungle
something-something idk i wanted to post goblin
opaque coyote
arctic talon
LOL
opaque coyote
Crimson armor but blue fists?
They found that their enemies are good enough to finish the paint job
plush mason
plush mason
the whole song is just "WAAAGH" over and over again lol
dusk patrol
The funniest comment I saw on one of these videos with the [NO AI] was "I would personally recommend you consider using AI."
dusk patrol
It was pretty bad iirc, but theres so many of these made that are trash mixed in with the AI ones.
Its like when random metal dudes on youtube cover Bury the Light or whatever, like...yeah you made a shittier version of a great song.
Wasn't terrible but, this adds nothing.
opaque coyote
Guardsman vs Space Marine circia 40M:
storm jungle
Its like when random metal dudes on youtube cover Bury the Light or whatever, li...
I cringe hard every time i hear a cover of an MGR song
like idk why anyone would try to beat the vocalist
i appreciate the attempt but come on
dusk patrol
I'm sure a good one exists somewhere but I've yet to see one.
storm jungle
Yeah there is a few but you know exactly what i mean lol
dusk patrol
Most of the time they're just so generic sounding.
storm jungle
Guardsman vs Space Marine circia 40M:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiik_hIAO...
also PEAK SCENE
opaque coyote
also PEAK SCENE
I think my favorite part was when The Russian bent Frank's gun
dusk patrol
Thomas Jane is my favorite punisher, and I fucking love Bernthal
dusk patrol
But man he manages to make Frank a compelling character in a movie which doesn't take itself seriously during a weird time for comic book movies.
opaque coyote
I also like how The Russian wasn't just like
A meathead. He had extremely quick thinking also.
storm jungle
as Eternal said this movie is slept on way too much
opaque coyote
Along with batting the FUCKING GRENADE
storm jungle
i went into it after seeing this scene expecting it to be a goof-fest (which it is in some parts) but he really carries it
opaque coyote
I did not expect that part tbh
storm jungle
I did not expect that part tbh
the best part with the fight with the russian is hes actually smart lol
dusk patrol
That "Both of them." line is so fucking cold.
opaque coyote
the best part with the fight with the russian is hes actually smart lol
Also the fact that the actor that played The Russian actually got stabbed.
Like jesus man
dusk patrol
Yeah
storm jungle
Yeah he didnt give a reaction since the reel was rolling but lmao
i was like "wow thats cool that blood looks very real!"
dusk patrol
I don't think they used the take where he got stabbed.
storm jungle
Yeah i guess we cant really know
some would definitely go "maybe lets NOT put that in"
dusk patrol
He and Jane have talked at length about it, it was obviously a pretty big deal on set lol.
storm jungle
compared to the opposite ala Leo in Django actually cutting his hand yeah lol
opaque coyote
some would definitely go "maybe lets NOT put that in"
Kevin Nash is still alright btw
dusk patrol
Well
Idk about that, his body is still fucked but it has nothing to do with that scene
storm jungle
Lmfao fuck sakes
dusk patrol
This is him tearing his quad, five seconds into his first match back after he had just been injuied for a long time.
Which sucks, but is also hilarious especially because he does it power walking across the ring.
sly ivy
I was just wondering how Emmahenrietta was doing and I guess she left the server 😦
opaque coyote
I don't think they used the take where he got stabbed.
I did some research
dusk patrol
Sounded like she has some stuff to go through rn in her life, so its probably for the best
opaque coyote
That was the actual take they used
sly ivy
Yeah
opaque coyote
the one where he unironically got stabbed
dusk patrol
Where is this research
dusk patrol
I feel like I've heard both
opaque coyote
opaque coyote
Where is this research
Apparently the real knife was blunted. So it would've hurt like a bitch.
According to Nash, the take actually was in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ujOpFn5PyA&t=2225s
storm jungle
I was just wondering how Emmahenrietta was doing and I guess she left the server...
She has left like 3 times already she'll come back
atm tho yeah some life issues as said above so gotta give her the space
dusk patrol
Apparently the real knife was blunted. So it would've hurt like a bitch.
Accord...
Bah, I've heard him in person say the opposite.
Old people
He was a lot nicer than I thought he'd be in person, I think I caught him on a good day or something.
@viral halo
opaque coyote
Bah, I've heard him in person say the opposite.
Looked it up
Yeah the sources are mixed on whether it was used or not used
dusk patrol
I'm almost positive I've heard him in interviews say both.
But idk, its more fun if it is but idk if they could do that lol.
crystal forum
"some interpret"
woah it's almost like these lawmakers just want to fuck children and decided that the quran says so
viral halo
woah it's almost like these lawmakers just want to fuck children and decided tha...
they're just doing what the prophet did
dusk patrol
Idk if I believe some of those names
crystal forum
goes from arabic to italian to british to american
i can trace my family directly back to normans 
the only good europeans
(they conquered the british)
viral halo
goes from arabic to italian to british to american
spanish not italian
crystal forum
same trash language
rose thorn
joan of acre lmao
arctic talon
joan of acre lmao
thats a real person
umbral kraken
many Joans of different places in this world i bet
rocky gale
Yeee the daughter of Edward Longshanks
median star
so is their an in lore reason as to why only dantioch gets the sick ass helmet he has
arctic talon
so is their an in lore reason as to why only dantioch gets the sick ass helmet h...
its custom made artificer armor
he prolly did it himself
arctic talon
so is their an in lore reason as to why only dantioch gets the sick ass helmet h...
Mask of Dantioch - After the incident on Gholghis, Dantioch chose to wear no helmet, for his face and skull were enclosed within an iron mask he had crafted. The faceplate was a work of brutal beauty, an interpretation of the IVth Legion's badge, the very same iron mask symbol that adorned his shoulder. It was rumored that Dantioch had worn the mask immediately after he pulled it glowing from the forge, the better to hammer it into shape around his shaven skull. It would be called as "the mask of the Warden of the Pharos" after the Battle of Miral by the Scythes of the Emperor Chapter.
median star
did anyone ever find it after he died
arctic talon
Yeah
rocky gale
Fear not Dantioch will return
arctic talon
its a relic for the Scythes of the Emperor
who were a chapter made in honor of Dantioch and the loyalist IW who were with the UM
Do not ask about the Ultramarines relations with loyalist IW in the heresy
the geneseed test came back inconclusive
but they claim they're second founding UM ferverently and the other UM sucessors back them up on it lol
median star
strangely iron colored marine definitely not of iron decent news at 7
arctic talon
strangely iron colored marine definitely not of iron decent news at 7
very intresting chapter symbol
Realistically they're using Guillimans Geneseed but they 100% had surviving IW members shoved in initially lol
rocky gale
That's not Scythes of the Emperor right?
median star
have they ever actually had to fight iron warriors
rocky gale
I thought they were black and yellow
arctic talon
That's not Scythes of the Emperor right?
Yeah thats not sycthes of the emperor
arctic talon
have they ever actually had to fight iron warriors
Sycthes of the emperor have and the IW were trying to steal Dantiochs mask
Silver Skulls uh
rocky gale
Okay, you just mentioned Scythes and then started posting this one so got confused
arctic talon
the answer is no
Silver skulls have never fought the Iron Warriors in any official content but they did fight the death guard
rocky gale
Silvers Skulls were written by Sarah Cawkwell iirc
crystal forum
Do not ask about the Ultramarines relations with loyalist IW in the heresy
looks utlramarine to me
if you squint hard enough you'll see blue
dusk patrol
She posts in book chat a bunch
crystal forum
captain kentucky??
green loom
Ye
dusk patrol
Coward
crystal forum
FUCK you eternal
she is awesome
and deserves respect
LIERALLY listening to quasimorph soundtrack and imagining killing you rn
summer mural
epic models
rose thorn
epic models
Very
These guys are chaos lords on horses
Basically
They are archeons chosen warriors
summer mural
the bonereaper models look so visibly better than the other death factions, or it could just be me
queen laurel
the bonereaper models look so visibly better than the other death factions, or i...
Well that's normal to be fair
They are a new faction after all
summer mural
i see
queen laurel
Relatively speaking anyway
summer mural
they do look a lil more updated
rose thorn
the bonereaper models look so visibly better than the other death factions, or i...
Yeah that’s the goal, you will see a few factions you like visually and will probably stick with them
My favorite is the flesh eater courts 
queen laurel
Another good example would be ironjaws
Back then they used to have black orcs
But now
Basically every single unit in the roster is new
rose thorn
Back then they used to have black orcs
God those models were old
queen laurel
Yeah they were
summer mural
like holy moly
queen laurel
like holy moly
The perfect war horse moment
rose thorn
Love the skeleton green Egyptian samurai’s
summer mural
the ironjawz color scheme might be my favourite greenskin aesthetic ever
queen laurel
the ironjawz color scheme might be my favourite greenskin aesthetic ever
Yeah they supposed to follow the stormcast because apparently
summer mural
queen laurel
They respect them and think of them as a good fight
But as always you can just color it the way you want
queen laurel
Well out of destruction currently they are the ones there are most out of date
The gitz, giants and orruks
Relatively have new things to take away from the old ones
Ogors have none
arctic talon
the bonereaper models look so visibly better than the other death factions, or i...
Bonereapers are imo by far the best faction visually for Death
summer mural
same
arctic talon
they have a very distinct look from pretty much any undead in any setting
Mostly due to the fact they really lean into the fact they aren't just individual skeletons risen from the dead
but amalgamations and bone golems given life
queen laurel
Yeah visually speaking they are cool and lore wise
arctic talon
I want to turn the Pilgrims from Frostpunk 2 into a guard regiment now 💀
summer mural
why do they take a tithe though, why not just kill everyone for the bones
arctic talon
the only mini I don't love is Katakros
arctic talon
why do they take a tithe though, why not just kill everyone for the bones
replenishing supply of bones
queen laurel
why do they take a tithe though, why not just kill everyone for the bones
Because farming bones
arctic talon
not all of them hate the living
Though some do intentionally make a tithe so bad they get to kill everyone because they hate the living
queen laurel
Farming is going to give more resources than just killing everything in front of you
And remember
arctic talon
Death in AoS is funny mostly because like
queen laurel
Nagash still wants to rule
arctic talon
2 of the big groups in Death get along fineish with living people
queen laurel
So having those empires would be fun
queen laurel
both can be decently diplomatic
Yeah but to be honest i would rather trust the vampires than the bone heads because
Some vampires actually want to live decent lives away from the big man
summer mural
are the flesh eaters originally strigoi
arctic talon
yeah they're Strigoi
summer mural
are the von carsteins over
blood dragons are not Im assuming
pretty sure they still get to be a unit
queen laurel
are the flesh eaters originally strigoi
Hell Ushoran was also from warhammer fantasyl
This is now him in aos
summer mural
oh the carrion king is ushoran?
queen laurel
I do not understand what nagash was thinking on bringing this guy again
summer mural
queen laurel
oh the carrion king is ushoran?
Yeah he's the mortarch of delusion
And the curse of the flesh eater courts come from him
summer mural
the death factions seem to be more united with each other than the order ones
arctic talon
are the von carsteins over
Von Carstiens have lived on lol
summer mural
Von Carstiens still around
queen laurel
the death factions seem to be more united with each other than the order ones
Well what do you expect on a faction that only has one god and wants order through fear
queen laurel
beating their asses black and blue and brutally torturing them
I do find it funny that the Ghouls are capable of kindness
arctic talon
they're really happy he's busy licking his wounds
queen laurel
If you can find the way to not fear them and let their illusions work with them
arctic talon
and they get somewhat free reign rn
most of the nighthaunt also hate nagash
for the whole eternal suffering thing
summer mural
I havent looked into the nighthaunt yet
queen laurel
they're really happy he's busy licking his wounds
Also wolf why the hell did NAGASH revive Ushoran
Didn't that guy literally make an empire that was free from nagash
In warhammer fantasy
arctic talon
Also wolf why the hell did NAGASH revive Ushoran
So he could torture Ushoran and make him his slave
queen laurel
So he could torture Ushoran and make him his slave
Yeah i believe that
arctic talon
same with him reviving Mannfred von Carstein he wanted a torture doll
and someone that he could use as a beat stick
sly ivy
There’s nothing more satisfying than compelling someone who hates you to do something
Case in point you all hate me and yet I sometimes compel you to respond
queen laurel
same with him reviving Mannfred von Carstein he wanted a torture doll
And neferata?
same stuff as well?
arctic talon
Same reason
Though he didn't torture her
since she agreed to fight for him
he was just an asshole to her instead 💀
queen laurel
I think arkhan and Katakros are the only people that don't mind being near the guy
arctic talon
Katakros is terrified of Nagash
Arkhan is the only one who likes being around
Katakros is also kept in line with how terrified he is of nagash
queen laurel
Katakros is also kept in line with how terrified he is of nagash
But he decided to join him
To improve his skills
Well you know what who wouldn't be scared of the god of death
queen laurel
but she's too busy being horribly depressed
I do love that excluding ossiarchs
In soulbound death factions
Can genuinely find some sort of respite as well
Fec get the illusions less
So they can make a choice if they accept who they are or stay in it
Nighthaunt don't have to go through pain so much
arctic talon
that one FEC who broke out of the delusion before she went insane from it and then fell back into it
💀
queen laurel
And vampires don't have to deal with the big bone man
arctic talon
Manfredd?! Nagash revived MANNFREDD?!
Yes
queen laurel
queen laurel
worst couple in warhammer history I'm ngl
I know the other one is lady Olynder
Who is the other one
arctic talon
Kurdoss Valentian is the other one
He was a king who in life was incredibly hungry for power and betrayed both his brothers(who worshiped Nagash)
summer mural
I wonder if nagash sits down and has a nostalgia trip for the old world
arctic talon
he becomes King finally
summer mural
yknow back in the good old days when he was poisoning the Nile and trying to invade germany
arctic talon
and then nagash kills hom for worshiping Sigmar
queen laurel
He was a king who in life was incredibly hungry for power and betrayed both his ...
Okay then what about lady Olynder
arctic talon
now he's forever bound to Olyander as her "husband"
queen laurel
How did she get reduced into the funny ghost
arctic talon
How did she get reduced into the funny ghost
She was a really pretty woman who plotted and schemed her way into power becoming queen of a nation, she always pretended to be stricken with grief whenever she killed someone or got someone killed ect. Once she became queen she ruled for a while and the nation was prosperous, Nurglite forces attacked and were fought off but a plague was spreading through the empire. She begged every god for salvation before she decided to ask chaos for help but right as that happened Nagash killed her and everyone still alive in her empire and turned them all into proto nighthaunt.
winter vessel
so...not a benevolent ruler?
queen laurel
She was a really pretty woman who plotted and schemed her way into power becomin...
Ah
arctic talon
She looks like a bride because Nagash is mocking her for when she made her husband mysteriously vanish
and then she broke down into tears about it
queen laurel
Yeah i think i understand why no god answered
arctic talon
so...not a benevolent ruler?
She was a good ruler as far as we know
is the ironic thing
summer mural
what faction does arkhan actually run
arctic talon
Arkhan runs with any group of death that require his personal attention
but he's generally lore wise found in Nagash's court
queen laurel
She was a good ruler as far as we know <a:TopKekSphere:536320221426745345>
You would think she would rule like a tyrant but surprisingly that surprising
arctic talon
Tbf she's still a total monster lol
Gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss
one might even say
queen laurel
Yeah a good ruler can still be a monster
arctic talon
"Do not resist - death is inevitable. The more quickly you succumb, the sooner your suffering will be over. Come to me and be mine for evermore...." Lady Olynder
outer wave
She was a really pretty woman who plotted and schemed her way into power becomin...
Also she only feels grief IIRC because Nagash is like that; every victory she mourns
arctic talon
Yep
summer mural
his bonereaper mount is nice
arctic talon
Also she got married to Kurdoss much to both his and her horror
because Nagash is an asshole
queen laurel
Also she got married to Kurdoss much to both his and her horror
to be honest, two backstabbing monsters
Put together in a marriage
It's funny in a nagash way
arctic talon
Olyander is the one with all the power in the relationship
which Kurdoss hates
also Kurdoss pretty much never gets to fight properly either because either Olyander kills the thing
or his guards do right before he gets to land the killing blow
queen laurel
also Kurdoss pretty much never gets to fight properly either because either Olya...
Hitting nighthaunt with normal weapons is harder right
arctic talon
in any case their marriage was made in hell and both of them hate it, Olyander doesn't want a husband or anyone sharing a bit of power with her
and Kurdoss hates being not the one in charge, unable to fight and being inferior
queen laurel
in any case their marriage was made in hell and both of them hate it, Olyander d...
Well to be honest i would rather have them be stuck in that place
arctic talon
he was much happier when he was off on his own
queen laurel
Their monsters both of them
arctic talon
oh also Kurdoss's heralds actively mock him
and mention everytime he's failed to kill something before his guards fill it with arrows
queen laurel
and mention everytime he's failed to kill something before his guards fill it wi...
Can't he command his guards to like
Can you please let me kill that thing
arctic talon
No they're Olyander/Nagash's
queen laurel
Oh
queen laurel
Damn
arctic talon
and its not like he's weak either
lore wise he cracked a gargants skull with a single swing of his
rod?
Staff?
staff seems more accurate
sacred ginkgo
Scepter
queen laurel
lore wise he cracked a gargants skull with a single swing of his
Was it a small one or a mega one
arctic talon
mega
he hit it very hard
and then the guards killed it
💀
he got to kill a hobgrot once
and a Stormcast another time
winter vessel
starting to sound like the equivalent of getting a participant trophy which amounts to nothing
queen laurel
he got to kill a hobgrot once
This feels like the worse
arctic talon
starting to sound like the equivalent of getting a participant trophy which amou...
His guards announce all his kills before a battle
especially the hobgrot one
queen laurel
**especially the hobgrot one**
Wow they really want to mock him huh
arctic talon
that is the point yes
queen laurel
I feel like if he kills a mega boss
They will just forget he did that
And just keep repeating the most embarrassing ones
winter vessel
"WOW, look everyone, he's doing something!"
plush mason
the processional of the damned was one of the locations you can pick so naturally i did just that lol
plush mason
so such potential
sharp pollen
is the game in general good?
plush mason
very
plush mason
its turn based combat so ouch
sharp pollen
i thought there is some ez mode
queen laurel
Yeah but even story offers a decent amount of challenge
That's the lowest difficulty by the way
feral relic
game's pretty easy unless you crank it way up, most classes are very strong and a few are game breaking strong even without some of the also crazy strong gear
once you clear the start of act 2 you're set
small grail
shud i get path of exile 2?
sharp pollen
is this some kind of a sequel so some book about 40k? path of exile?
celest dome
No, it's an unrelated game
celest dome
shud i get path of exile 2?
Depend, do you like Diablo and those sort of games ?
small grail
Depend, do you like Diablo and those sort of games ?
kinda
shadow plover
2 will be free after the early access period, too
summer mural
Worse than angron becoming khorne ig
although, lion as khorne is just like..more violent invasions
if lion became slaanesh we can have some fun
sharp pollen
No, it's an unrelated game
his ass does NOT understand sarcasm
small grail
if lion became slaanesh we can have some fun <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
real chad
small grail
his ass does NOT understand sarcasm
no ass can understand sarcasm whatre u sayin
small grail
although, lion as khorne is just like..more violent invasions
guiliman?
summer mural
what about him
if guilliman becomes corrupted I fully expect the first for him to do is get out of that ridiculous armor hes wearing rn
celest dome
his ass does NOT understand sarcasm
No my ass just don't care
small grail
No my ass just don't care
see he gets it
small grail
if guilliman becomes corrupted I fully expect the first for him to do is get out...
make blud wear the "by any means necessary" jacket
the xenos will approve even the tyranids
tough haven
rocky marten
shud i get path of exile 2?
It's good but a little half baked at the moment, some classes are way underpowered, and the economy was wrecked from a group duping and a few other exploits
vagrant fox
Warrior has been a real mix of bad times and okay times
rose thorn
Hey is Mr bones a good content creator?
shadow plover
he's alright I guess, used to watch his early stuff but the content veered to less interesting stuff so I've not watched him in a while
rose thorn
I blew him off as a complain tuber but he did a video with some content creators I like
storm jungle
Hes id say "okay"
i kinda find the constant marine centric stuff boring so i fell off for him
I prefer loretubers that mix-match tons of topics
ala Ian or Pancreas
storm jungle
Yeah it is lmao
theres some super über-fascist quotes for the loading screen, really funny stuff
tough haven
isn't this a loading screen?
It’s “Forgiveness is a crime, punishable by death”
shadow plover
I don't think I've seen it in-game but I did make this one
tough haven
theres some super über-fascist quotes for the loading screen, really funny stuff
As it should be
humble shoal
was thinking tolerance is the first step on the path to heresy
storm jungle
was thinking tolerance is the first step on the path to heresy
Ive seen people unironically spout this stuff
you gotta love it
queen laurel
Ive seen people unironically spout this stuff
Me when I tell them that if I stop tolerating my neighbor the event that will kick start from it will be worse than Horus heresy
rose thorn
ala Ian or Pancreas
Ala lan?
queen laurel
but for real some people are genuinely insane
rose thorn
OHH my bad
storm jungle
tough haven
was thinking tolerance is the first step on the path to heresy
That one is “Complaining of thy lot is the first step on the road to damnation”
I have them all written down cause I’m using them as hourly hive city announcements for a setting
tough haven
That’s where I got em from yeah
tough haven
i just found it last week
People reading the most overt over the top fascist shit, and being like “yeah, this sounds right”
storm jungle
Ive seen people legit say "tolerance is extinction" among other shit seriously so beats me at this point
queen laurel
Ive seen people legit say "tolerance is extinction" among other shit seriously s...
"You need understand nothing to do your duty"
and people think this is good advice?
sometimes i wonder what's wrong with people
storm jungle
😔
winter vessel
and people think this is good advice?
They get so immersed that it becomes all they know
cough Bronies
sly ivy
*cough* Bronies
Do those still exist are they like 60 now
green loom
and people think this is good advice?
Most people are pretty stupid
winter vessel
Do those still exist are they like 60 now
I have an inside informant that still goes to those “Ponyfest” gatherings. Not as large as the Bronycon gatherings back when the MLP FIM series was still hopping.
So, yeah, they still breathe
sly ivy
Incredible more power to em honestly
green loom
It's not even like they heed most of that advice they just like the aesthetic/vibe
sly ivy
Wish I loved something that much
Or something, anything at all, loved me
Ex… excuse me a moment
winter vessel
I just liked the show when I had to stay with my younger cousins for a bit. Saw it available on Netflix and kinda went from there. But never became obsessed with it
But man did it draw a much older spectrum
storm jungle
I think its fun but yeah i never really got into it.
vagrant fox
All I know is that people wanted to fuck those horses
storm jungle
LOL
Still do tbh
tho literally everyone in every fandom wants to fuck something
40k is probably one of the most degenerate ones out there
winter vessel
clears throat and taps the mic they call it “Clop”
And the amount of fanfics that were written is equivalent to SpongeBob’s book room…per each fan
queen laurel
Most people are pretty stupid
that is true
tough haven
that is true
I’m living proof lol
vagrant fox
My friend used to write a lot of fanfics for that, but I forgive him
winter vessel
Does it involve fucking?
tough haven
What good fanfic doesn’t?
vagrant fox
I genuinely don't see that much 40k smut, I browse in good places
winter vessel
Well I’m more disappointed in the AVP fandom considering people wanted to be dominated by Crab Faced Humanoids.
tough haven
Actually I lied, that one ogryn fanfic has slaneesh daemons and zero fucking and is pretty good, I gotta give it props
I can’t remember it’s name
barren prawn
yeah warhamer is less horny than the rest
sly ivy
40k is probably one of the most degenerate ones out there
I beg ur pardon we care only to bring increase unto Blessed Humanity under His golden light
tough haven
yeah warhamer is less horny than the rest
If it has a hole or can fit in a hole, game on
barren prawn
Its absolutely not
i am not going to calculate porn per capita for several fandoms
tough haven
That’s how the fandom is
storm jungle
Im a 13 year-long part of this fanbase and its one of THE most degenerate coomer fanbases out there.
yall just stick to safe spots
barren prawn
pokemon overwatch so much stuff is a lot worse
winter vessel
I just want another Xenomorph movie that Carries that deep space horror again. Hell even a game. That VR crap for rogue incursion don’t count
tough haven
pokemon overwatch so much stuff is a lot worse
They’re just more open with it
vagrant fox
I do just stuck to safe spots 
The worst I see is marines drawn as cocaine twinks with their cocks out but that's it
storm jungle
pokemon overwatch so much stuff is a lot worse
40k does this too
we literally got artists that draw loli-gore 💀
barren prawn
40k does this too
agree to disagree then because i am not willing and able to go to r34 and check the top fandoms
storm jungle
agree to disagree then because i am not willing and able to go to r34 and check ...
its.. not even r34 tho
its literally public social media sites
LMAO
it ranges from awful shit to usual slop porn,
no I dont want to see Kuntrad Curze's gaping ass tyvm 💀
winter vessel
no I **dont** want to see Kuntrad Curze's gaping ass tyvm 💀
any form of media that exists
Fandom:
tough haven
What would a hive worlder know about hive cities than others? Like useful general information, not necessarily specific stuff, as they don’t live in the hive city in question, just have lived in them before
green loom
40k is probably one of the most degenerate ones out there
I just wish it literally all wasn't so vanilla
Like damn dude
tough haven
it ranges from awful shit to usual slop porn,
So you’re saying there’s some good shit in there?
tough haven
I just wish it literally all wasn't so vanilla
Deldar porn
summer mural
What would a hive worlder know about hive cities than others? Like useful genera...
eh?
storm jungle
So you’re saying there’s some good shit in there?
As ever.
green loom
it ranges from awful shit to usual slop porn,
Don't forget the borderline nsfw memes and the one pedo artist lmao
outer wave
So you’re saying there’s some good shit in there?
An artist I know makes some good uh, content IMO
winter vessel
Gray-Skull?
outer wave
SomeRememberancer IIRC
winter vessel
DrunkRemembrancer
outer wave
Yes
summer mural
apparently ossiarch bonereapers are like 99% melee, I figured theyd be the death faction with the most ranged firepower
storm jungle
Drunkremembrancer is pretty Degenerate Coomer
shadow plover
his art is so ass
outer wave
I think his art is pretty good
barren prawn
🚬 if nintendo couldnt do anything against the coomertide what hope does GW have?
green loom
Nothing I just wish they weren't boring as shit
winter vessel
Drunkremembrancer is pretty Degenerate Coomer
Surprisingly this fella was my first introduction to 40k art. Man I had a funny start to the universe. TTS and then BTK
green loom
There's an argument to be made also that wanting to play a faction with a femme focus and only having Sisters of Battle is pretty bleak when they're the singularly most objectified faction in the game
storm jungle
Surprisingly this fella was my first introduction to 40k art. Man I had a funny ...
Bolterkokoro is not bad yeah
outer wave
Yeah they're cool
storm jungle
There's an argument to be made also that wanting to play a faction with a femme ...
Yeah to the point that GW had to tone them down with their re-release
the amount of times i had male players tell me to just go play sisters pisses me off lol
barren prawn
wellllllll GW were the ones that made repentia
summer mural
why are sisters of silence so..subdued
green loom
the amount of times i had male players tell me to just go play sisters pisses me...
Especially when they some pricks would make like off the cuff weird jokes about it
barren prawn
why are sisters of silence so..subdued
because GW writers dont know how to write silent people
green loom
why are sisters of silence so..subdued
They're a very, very minor sub faction of a sideline faction that's TINY
summer mural
ah of course
storm jungle
because GW writers dont know how to write silent people
Also women in general
summer mural
yeah but they do have a fairly important role
green loom
because GW writers dont know how to write silent people
Also in fairness they've made a modified version of UK Sign language for them
storm jungle
its a background element
vagrant fox
I think slavery is cool though 
barren prawn
nobody gives a shit about the black ships in the fandom
I DO 😭
summer mural
also wasnt their leader like the big e's other best friend
apart from malcador and valdor
storm jungle
No lmao
barren prawn
i want a good sisters of silence novel
storm jungle
she literally gets accidentally splashed by Kharn
winter vessel
also wasnt their leader like the big e's other best friend
Big E: “HAH WOMAN.” the end that is literally as far as it goes
barren prawn
imagine following around a SoS as she takes her vowes then the novel shifts to her inner monologue as she kills daemons
green loom
Did we get an SoS in one of the Dawn of Fire books
I forger
winter vessel
imagine following around a SoS as she takes her vowes then the novel shifts to h...
I imagine that it’s actually a TF2 Pyro scenario
storm jungle
imagine following around a SoS as she takes her vowes then the novel shifts to h...
thats literally Watchers of the Throne
summer mural
culexus are cooler blanks anyway
storm jungle
it has a POV Main character whos a SoS
summer mural
also theyve apparently allowed actual hoomie inquisitors into the black library
Im surprised they trusted em at all
storm jungle
Like
barren prawn
is it 30k or 40k?
storm jungle
2-3 of them
vagrant fox
https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-gif-10559980082154008380
I was 100% certain when I first got into 40k that it was a really hamfisted slavery metaphor and I've stuck to it
storm jungle
LMAO I mean its a metaphor for a lot of things
barren prawn
ok im doing that before outgunned
storm jungle
bastard
barren prawn
💅 sorry pilot sisters of silence get the priority
vagrant fox
But they barely exist
winter vessel
The word “bastard” is forever ruined to me by Easy Pete from FNV
barren prawn
yeah theyre rare
barren prawn
The word “bastard” is forever ruined to me by Easy Pete from FNV
angron ruined the word creature for me
CREATURE CREATURE
storm jungle
yeah theyre rare
Women? True
arctic talon
💀
storm jungle
The word “bastard” is forever ruined to me by Easy Pete from FNV
for me its GoT
Ser Alliser on god
"YE BASTED"
winter vessel
CREATURE CREATURE
That was Ghaul from D2 for me
barren prawn
outer wave
Fortnight.
storm jungle
LMAO
shadow plover
Fortnight.
I have that as a soundboard sound but can't post it here 😔
summer mural
storm jungle
I have that as a soundboard sound but can't post it here 😔
Banned 😔
outer wave
I have that as a soundboard sound but can't post it here 😔
Damn unfortunate 😔
summer mural
was neferata actually around in fantasy in the end times
queen laurel
was neferata actually around in fantasy in the end times
y4es
summer mural
kinda sucks to be her, brought back as nagash's stooge
arctic talon
She was around but she wasn’t relevant
queen laurel
well around fantasy but in end times i think no
summer mural
her of all people
queen laurel
She was around but she wasn’t relevant
she isn't even a legendary lord
winter vessel
https://tenor.com/view/damn-ye-robert-pattinson-the-lighthouse-willem-dafoe-gif-...
“Yer fond of me lobster.” The chef when I go to Red Lobster and I say shrugs
queen laurel
that is already on the low end of the podium
storm jungle
Very likely
arctic talon
nefarata might still be in wh3
She’s a random npc
summer mural
theres still time
arctic talon
Already
storm jungle
in our hearts