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that weird cranial situation turns me off
Coward
it will stay on during sex
There are times where when something is designed you just question if they went through with it or they didn't know better
have you seen one without their helmet
chat, melt this little furball
They gave all the assassins a ton lol
trust me it's all one giant skull in there
I tried to but the acid just bounce off of his fur
like the crystal skull
jokes aside the giant skull is to house all the anti-psyker shit
this isnt indiana jones!!!
i wish i had my whip
I thought it just focus their blank energy into a blast
They’re going turn the amp on to make you scream

blank BLAST
They do both
In horrific pain
The head piece can dampen and amplify their aura
And it lets them fire it in a blast
They don’t seem very pleasant no
Very much taking their condition out on the universe
I remember the panels of the one sent to kill Stern
and hes literally enjoying the shit out of it
lol
mfer says shit like "Mmmm delicious"

Not a high bar to clear
True
Tbh I like assasinorum kingmaker
I mean
you say that like thats a wrong opinion
Culexus temple gets the side eye from even the other temples
My favorite assasins are the nerds
They’re all unhinged in their own special way
Who kills from orbit
the only assassins i enjoy are vindicare
ok cod player
A Take so cold that it makes fenris look like it's in a desert summer
just guys with a nice gun
how about a nice guy with a gun
this is 40k
You know what just roll with it
not nice guys
The vanus having fun planning a lynching is great
The assassins insist upon themselves
but "nice guys"
CEO murder in my 40k?
that's sandy hook
Took the audio from Prosnorkulus 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiOM5ecFWW8
Thanks to "Vodkason" for making the tent background or me. Check out his art at: http://killakatana.deviantart.com/
Also check out http://masteralighieri.deviantart.com/ , he does good pictures.
This was fun to work with.
Not a ceo just some random nobles lol

LOL
not this again
If you love what you do you’ll never work a day in your life
god the eversor should be used much more
quickly bring up lucius
Assassins kinda usually need to be clean
as to not sew anarchy
you fuckhead

I mean yeah high status and society screams loudly when you rip off their arms, cries and begs you to let them live when you aim a gun to their head
vraks be like
chat send a eversor to jay's house
the target didnt die
Pretty much the same ye
thats the entire reason Vraks happened
They dude was a dumbass
LOL
sounds like a skill issue
ur a skill issue
Ordo hereticus gave bad info
How does one use the wrong bullet
he should have used the uh
turbo-penetrator
No they didn’t
they did
Did they say he had a force shield?
they didn't know he had a shield

Why
So it goes through the shield
He used a turbo penetrator on a soft target
you fucking-
Lol
he should have used APFSDS clearly
Which is fucking deranged
wait no this isn't war thunder
He was shooting through a slab of marble
“Why would you use the armor piercer round for the armored enemy”

But he wasnt armored....
the round went straight through
Or the hellfire
TO MAKE SURE HES FUCKING DEAD
He should have used hellfire or shellbresker
but still skill issue for not aiming for the heart
But no

Because there was a pillar in the way
he could have also just not shot
Well they do say most assassins don’t survive their first six missions or whatever
and waited for a better opportunity
it was literally
the best oppoturnity
it says as much
Was there?
him shooting and messing up literally caused vraks
fine
him doing nothing would have helped
im gonna get the excerpt
Vraks wasn’t even that big a deal smh
Fairly certain that was the reason for the penatrator, to go through the marble
the best opportunity after waiting a while yeah
It’s fucking Marble
but he could have had another
the best oppoturnity for me to stick some dynamite up your a-
Do you know how easy marble is to shoot through?
No I do not
i've never tried personally
Because I live in a place with almost unconstitutional gun laws
but i dont think rock is a good medium for bullet travel
I also thought it was a thicc boy
What the dead think of it has nothing to do with it
you sir need to be restrained
Anyway that vindicare sniper should have had a promotion considering he smuggles that sniper in his ass
he died
He was bad at his one job
He didn’t even have a hard job
Capping some bishop is like
this was a super minor event beforehand
Basic training
the assassin who killed curze should have had a reward
alright bitches here, read
No
or jerk each other off idk
we're talking about emperor powers
@crystal forum You especially fucker, read.
fine
maybe because
Because we needed a cool rule series
Also unironically
Im gonna give some bad info to you in a second
He could have been all they could get
Assassins aren’t easy to get for anyone
Fair
Eversors take 2 years minimum
We got a brand new vindicare
Tbf vraks was all politics
And the senate passing it
He’s your only option
Still not sure what the cardinal was saying that was so disturbing
He was trying to reach everyone about their cars extended warranty
He probably had some craft nearby
he just took a bad direction because an entire palace was after him
lol
^
The fact they knew where he shot from alone
The fact it failed made it much worse lol
can you imagine the shame whoever was in charge of vindicare felt
I’d assume if the cardinal had died they would have been much less coordinated
Just rousing up his braindead followers for a needless bloody crusade and devoting more power to himself he obiviously was aiming to permanently keep.
He’s probably the poster boy for “DONT BE THIS GUY” for Vindicare training
But like thats normal ecclesiarchy shit
the cardinal was the sole reason people took arms against the imperium initially. without him chaos wouldn't have had a mouth piece
Its not when its aiming to personally increase your power
he was literally doing what Vandire did on a much smaller scale
thus making him a threat
the cardinal eventually gets killed off but that way after the whole vraks population becomes chaos tainted
Yeah after the CSM arrive he has no power
he was necessary at first
hes just a puppet/figurehead
And becomes a mutated mess
Uhh like a few years in
Who then fucks off before things get hot
Nah they dont
A lot of stuff gets wacky
Some do but the main AL force stays
The AL guy is there at the end
right to the finale of the war
where the Dork Angels capture their leader
Cuntvar the Faithless or some shit
also sisters of battle are there for some reason and serve no plot relevance
Dark Angels, big help they were
they serve to sit naked in cells for 17 years
Best dark angels book
nearly lost their precious banner doing it
what a bunch of bozos
that was the first attack
they leave and come back a few years after that
which is hilarious
They were the escort of the Cardinal you, numpty. After which they tried a futile attempt in taking down Xaphan with the assistance of the Arbites. But when you have a populace of zealous crackheads, then they got plenty of bodies for fewer ammunition
Also that ye
we will do the exact same plan a second time, they'll never see it coming
to be fair
by the time they arrived
the war was literally over

they just demanded to have Cuntvar the Faithless
or whatever his name was
should have killed him beforehand and again, didn't accomplish anything
i wanna hear about the brave arbites
not the sisters of cope
I forgot about this
Dark Angels: “We heard there was a war”
Literally everyone else on the planet : ಠ_ಠ
but as usual they're the badasses who are meant to die and they do it willingly
The dark angels helped
They did
arbites are just meant to slow down the loss of a planet
Arbites do what they can but they’re not equip to do full scale military things by themselves
It depends.
DA were the equivalent of showing up to a party they were not invited to, steal some food and drink on the tables, and then f’s off without saying hello to anybody
i believe they also locked away multiple storage depots before being killed off
it's a world full of old tanks and guns
Just not against a large armory world populace
you never see it depicted in 40k elsewhere
Armory world. Basically if you funded the US’s defense budget on a global scale
armory world, thats it
Yeah thought a large population of the planet were prisoners
it's like a fortress world but only a garrison
Just like krieg
Yeah and like theres 1 single proper settlement on the planet
Except krieg was specialized in nukes
Nah I call that Michigan
Krieg was a hive world
worlds can have seperate/combo-designations
hives are also on almost every imperial world too
Yeah but paradise and hive dont mix
Paradise world. One of the top 3 planets I do not want to be on
guerrilla wars yeah but not real wars. they can't fight a chaos invasion but they'll mess up their logistics long enough to prevent them from cementing themselves on the world

No like literal wars
Giant pollution machines
their kill-team book says as much
Pretty place
Sentenced to imperial nobles [REDACTED] slave
arbites are there to hold off until the imperium arrives (it rarely does)
I love stand and die protocol
same
but yeah most of their precincts are small/medium sized
some are absolutely massive
most we get are usually always small because drmaa
some have massive fortress precincts yeah but still not to the level of being able to fight a war of attrition
The big arbite precincts are usually the last to fall
We just don’t see the successful defenses cause that’s boring
Mordian iron guard are still better cops
When a uprising occurs
^ again drama
Same as we don’t see the time the PDF just repels the enemy
It again outright says "some can fight entire wars by themselves"
so again
Cause that’s not a very good story
Hey we get it in munda
lame
What are we mad about today, lads?
True
Where the PDF completely stomps the gsc
Also kinda Mordian but
When the gangs were getting their asses beaten
That’s the “PDF”
Yeaj
Yeah it does smh
Smh
They function like RTS units you tell ‘em one thing, they’ll stick to it. “Right so I want you to be in the field of artillery fire and stay there for my amusement”
Mordias story was before they were guardsman
i think a story about an arbites cell causing mayhem on a chaos invaded planet would be nice
The second one as well
Nah they were guard then
?
They’ve been a thing for a long time
It basically said "hey these pdf troopers survived we should make them guardsman"
I don’t think that’s how it goes
Cadian whiteshields 
That's how it went on Valhalla
Like they were on the cusp of being out of imperial compliance
Whiteshields are fucking hilarious tbh
If a PDF does well enough, they get promoted
Actual child soldiers
For lack of tithing
So is krieg
Promoted is probably the wrong word
I know how PDF work my point is the Mordian Iron Guard are described in the story as they are now
No like whiteshields are actual Children
Theyre like 14 arent they?
We conveniently wont talk/explore them at all because we gotta keep it PG13.
The first relief of Mordian that is
Whiteshields encompass anyone from 10 to 18 lol
the main difference between a PDF and a guard regiment is quality
Robert rath having a 12 year old get their legs blown off

But. You're doing it right now.
Krieg is like 16 year olds I guess at least
some regiments get stationed so long on planets they become PDF's
and some PDF's are so effective and well trained they become their own regiments
But yeah white shields are some crazy lore lol
I need a glorious victory of the dragoons
Good
Builds character
that's more of a fan thing
It's the PDF to imperial guard regiment back to PDF life cycle.
Anyways the fall of Cadia book is great
kriegers are mostly adults
Because they have white shields die horribly
Maintain a proper fucking firing line... jeremy
I definitely read a book where a Krieg grenadier was barely pushing 18
If you can hold a gun you can defend your planet!
you can just have 16 year old work in the manufactorums while you already have a stable population of adults to send off
But they’re def not 18 lol
I mean kriegers are test tube babies anyways
CHAT
Krieg doesn’t have manufacotrums
it's just dumb to send kids to war when you're not desperate
TF ONE moment
White shields are the pdf arent they?
Well damn, I wanted to discuss the Voltan
Just on..... cadia
whiteshields are new recruit cadians
Yeah
Whiteshields refer to fresh recruit Cadians including children
Cadia has an actual pdf
Who aren’t whiteshields
Whiteshields are generally not sent into combat
White shields are basically regiments in training, yeah?
Except when they are
🪨 
For Cadia it’s a mix of children and young adults
And some 18 year olds who are lame and never joined up smh
whiteshields are like army cadets, they're more meant to be learning to fight than actual fighters
Yeah
we just see whiteshields used in cadia because the whole planet was about to die
Like commissar cadets
If little Timmy wanted to live to be 10 he should have paid better attention during the serpentine movement course.
Hitler Youth rules in flames of war 
kids can also just work in the factories but they're treated as second class citizens
You can upgrade them with bikes
Also krieg has factories doesnt it?
As in literal bikes
No
To make military equipment
it does have some factories
I don't know why. Their small frames make them ideal for crawling into machinery while it is still in operation
it's straight up said in lore that they have factory workers
But teach the childblabor young
every guard world has them
During their peak years
why rely entirely on an outside source
I imagine every planet has a few factories
at least have some domestic production in case of war
But yeah assumed they were producing the whole 300 years of the civil war
Some planets are just mostly factory
im sure if krieg wanted to they could make autoguns for all its soldiers locally
Some are all factory
but factory worlds make the better shit
You mean lasguns
It's a sliding scale

im saying they could do shittier guns
with more quantity
Personally I think the autogun is a better weapon
krieg isn't always trench raiding
For say grenadiers
I mean they have calvalries
But the lasgun is a better choice for the imperial guard
they do have shotguns for engineers
Which are from lucius
who are meant to fight in close quarters
Yee and grenadiers no?
idk actually
They have grenades
i think they can have bolters even lol
And plasma
you can equip them with bolters no?
Refer to the pictures of WW1 soldiers going into battle with nothing but a sack full of grenades
oh i thought it was the entire grenadiers
No
couldn't you once do that
Krieg grenadier squad
hot shots are good
Prolly for engineers
much more fire rate
Engineers had swap outs for the whole squad
And one dude could take a Mole launcher
Or flamer
Fire rate > damage
Though now it’s been changed to flamer only
engineers are a step beyond trench fighting, they fight UNDERGROUND
Mole launcher got replaced with a drilling mine
they're so trenched they fight under the trench
Pickaxe at strength 5
Aren't all trenches underground?
hot shots have good damage cannonically
they can penetrate a space marine's armour iirc
I swore the dude from vraks who did the walking barrage had a shotty
tunnels are underunderground
I mean, if you can get both them go for it
(The one that did the first line breakthrough)
Tbh he can
Tabletop loadouts dif from lore ones
Especially for veteran squads
Like grenadiers and engineers
In lore, it's whatever the author wants
Yeah I have no guard codexes so no idea on the rules
is it still cannon that their lasguns only fire semi auto
Lucius pattern?
The lucius pattern, I think so
yeah
Yeah
Unless you fuck with it
Which is not allowed by the mechanicus
But I mean

i remember the krieg lasgun having more power but less fire rate
Yep
and less ammo
Yup
Ammo same
Assuming lasguns have no recoil, why not have them always be full auto?
Manufacturing
i wont say lucius because i dont remember the krieg lasgun name
Less punch per shot
And manufacturing
Overheating
Imperium doesnr make stuff
and i dont trust darktide
They just discover patterns
Lame
Lucius pattern is accurate
I mean they do make stuff
It’s just
A political and religious nightmare
Always
Yeah
most are select fire
^
It’s got burst, auto and semi
Kriegs are semi because assumedly its cheaper, its accurate, and it packs a bit more punch
Also Krieg already gets most of its stuff from Lucius
Why not add some lasguns on the list
lol
They have stc bayonetd thoughright
it's because krieg have good trigger discipline or something?
There’s an stc bayonet
i remember there being a real reason
Yes
The DKOK are pretty good marksmen
or was it because kriegers weren't expected to go full auto unless ordered
Also because ww1
No
which was a pain
Like the hellguns are just maxims
yeah because they need it
No volley gun though
also the grenadier hot shot is its own pattern
Yeah
Hotshot Hellgun same thing
no i mean krieg specific helguns
What scab gunners have
WHICH WE CANT USE
We have no backpack
we dont even have a long las
Id like a needler though
and fuck the lucius's sights
The callidus thing
The neural shredder?
At least the vraks skin gave it front sights
Yup
Yes
that's what i call my phone
we could get a whole scion skin themed shop
i hope
scions being asked to do the hardest mission a human being could accomplish 
penal worlds do not have much drip i'll be honest
Tbf that's because 95% of them do NOT last long enough to warrant it
I like it
Generally
But I kind of miss the colored visors
Being dif colors
And having like the longer lens
cant you just paint it
I had the entertaining idea of a Krieger Medic basically being tired of the martyrdom complex the whole regiment has
They have the grenadier mask
Like they're just like
"Can we not try suicidal tactics for 5 minutes?"
krieger medic is just a glorified euthanizer
Thing is kriegers arent actually that suicidal
They just put the objective above themselves
And if dying makes the objective happen, good
they just find whoever can still fight with a few bandages and kill off the ones who lost a leg
Nvm it is the quartermaster
nah that comes way after
And medical servitors
The vet krieg medic
Still not an officer of the line
you see it in the "veteran guardsman" killteam
medicae bag
literally the same as in darktide
so imagine they just throw it on the ground
dispenser comin up
i imagine the grenadier medic actually bothers to heal the soldiers he's with
since they'll be worth keeping alive even if they need to go back to a medic tent
do the last chancers have special uniforms?
Yeah I think so
Thought schaeffer had an iron arm now
Chem dogs have the more sewer look
i always mistake chemdogs with last chancers
Get an outfit like scopes
Pretty much
each with their own skillset
is Ox an Ogryn?
Just a chadecan
brains is straight up a GSC look at him
I know.
But sometimes being overly pragmatic is worse than just being a coward.
he's a caricature of a native american lol

I mean yeah
But tell me you wouldnt rock that as a zealot
Yeah I was thinking of him hating the martyrdom complex not because of the actual lives lost
But because
A) All the stupid ways he sees his comrades die
i'd probably feel a little gross irl
B) The fact that their deaths break their equipment sometimes
Maybe wearing one irl, because it symbolizes shit
But in a video game 
"What did you think you would accomplish by fucking shooting a tank with a Lasgun?"
Tbh might as well
"dying cough It's the last thing they'll expect..."
You might get lucky with some tanks
It won’t work on like
the crew will notice being pinged
Any xenos vehicle but the Tau or Orks
it's loud
And prolly votann
But traitor guard
But it’ll def annoy the shit out of the crew

orks cant hear the shots hitting their tanks lmao
And maybe get through
"YOU HAVE GRENADES IN YOUR BAG."
"oh... death cough"
definitely not for a leman russ or heavier
sigghhh
or actually a malcador which is what vraks had
Russ’s bottom armor can be penetrated if you get
Really really really really really lucky
if they're that close might as well melta them
or krak
anyways if you're lucky you might hit a viewport
or even better you might make them waste a shell on you
In any case firing a lasgun at most vehicles doesn’t do shit
Rock grinder
sure you die
Yeha true
It’s just the cults strapped a fucking Las cannon to it
And are going to ram it through your barricade
To be honest I wonder how many like
People with lasguns will it take
To damage a Leman Russ to just
Stopping
Many
actually if they swarm the tank
and rip off the hatches
then shoot the crew with lasguns
does that count
Yes
I mean
well not anymore
They do on tabletop
They used to be way worse at it
didn't it lock your tank into melee even?
it obviously shouldn't
Now they need to eat up their movement
the easiest thing is to charge the tank with a swarm of melee
good thing the tanks can ignore the shitty swarmers now
Not really
well i mean they can still shoot more important targets
like i dont want my executioner wasting plasma shots on rabble
maybe if you find a lighter tank
Chimera
but the entry bar for tanks in the imperium starts at heavy
this just in: small arms ineffective against armored vehicles
isnt the Russ classified as a medium tank by the imperium?
Tbh the definition of Light Tanks probably changed throughout the millennium
Yeah
But that things built like a brick shithouse
hell it changes country to country today lol
Tbf today, we kinda abandoned light, medium, heavy
true
We just go for
"TANK."
Shocking I know
The Aeldari wisdom
"Have armored vehicles... have armor"
Mashallah
ngl i bet its got a similar combat weight to like an Abrams/Leopard 2
Tbh I can imagine an Aeldari version of the Art of War.
People forget that Sun Tzu's art of war was basically just made as like
Basic advice
It’s for dumbasses
For dumbass rich people
“Feed your troops”
“Pay your soldiers”
True
Specifically back then it was for new generals
I can imagine an Aeldari version of that tbh
Clean your chainsword
elysians i guess
wait no that's just a car
Yeah
Oh yeah the Pegasus
super old lore
it's called a heavy
are all the light vehicles of the guard named after Greek monsters?
By 40k standards no
Seems like it yeah
also some sort of land vehicle
Except the sentinel
and i mean land the guy
And salamander
Which land vehicle
Bro what the fuck is this
i'll check
THIS IS LITERALLY JUST A TANK ON WHEELS
tank? i think you mean box lol
That’s fanmade
i hate the tank nerd idea that tracks alone define a tank
The Pegasus has no actual art or mini
Like the porsche tank
Ah.
...
So wheeled light tank when

wanna see something awesome
Hes gonna post the prische tank isnt he
well the drop troops are known for their especially stupid commanders afaik so i could see the tank looking like that lol
Unclear
Going off a ramp
It doesn’t say if it had wheels
Tech Priests be like
"We cannot deviate from the holy STC"
Nvm
It has a four wheel drive system
Oh my good god this is an admech invention
Oh no
The Holy STC
“Thus the Pegasus Armoured Scout Car was born. The powerful Leman Russ engine was fitted into a shortened Chimera chassis while a four-wheel drive system gave the stability and maneuverability required. The Pegasus was easily capable of outrunning most vehicles and has had many variants produced, including the Pegasus Command.”
check this out
OH MY FUCKING GOD IT IS A TANK WITH WHEELS
wheeled chimera baby
Goes hard
Is it from white dwarf?
I think that regiment is fucked
Actually looks cooler
WD499 apparently
There is a hive tyrant behind them
It is armed with turret-mounted Multi-Laser, Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter, or Autocannon with a 360 degree of fire and a hull-mounted Heavy Bolter or Heavy Flamer with a 90 degree field of fire.
Additionally, the primary and secondary armaments can be equipped with targeters, Auto-launchers carrying Frag Grenades, Blind Grenades, or Frag Defender rounds.
Not bad lol
Of course used on mostly civilians
and a nurotyrant
ah yes, armoured car
LOL
THEY CANNOT DEVIATE FROM THE HOLY STC. ANYTHING ELSE IS HERESY.
it's used in the exact same way as a tank but no it's an amoured car
It is
it sounds like the 40k version of the striker IFV
according to these fucking bozos, these two vehicles are of the same class
Oh god I found an imperial light tank
CALLING THE PEGASUS MODEL A TANK IS GROUNDS FOR SERVITORIZATION.
All hail the Scylla
there's a whole list of weird imperial vehicles on the lexi
its a defective land raiders lmao
It’s the Scylla light tank
can somebody please agree with me
PLEASE
You’re correct
It's like an Ogyrn.
Adorably ugly
an armoured car is a CAR MEANT FOR ROAD USE
god damn it
wheeled tanks are meant for offroad literally
that's their main purpose
an armored car is a civilian car that has armor plating welded into it's panels
this is an armorued car
because it's meant for roads
I can’t even tell what kits were used for it
thats just a KV1
Why does it have eyes on the side of the gun
Yes
yeah i remember that KV2 ass
It’s prolly based on a KV2 kit lol
HA WRONG MEME TANK
I’m not a tank nerd smh
like the KV1 and 2 looks near identical to me so
The Samaritan medical vehicle
and the turret iirc
Is just a Chimera with no guns p
Is it the shorter but thicker one
it looks cool and tank nerds love it but the KV2 sucked
true for many ww2 Russian tanks afaik
Imperium Tankettes when

Prolly some shitty regiment has it
it was so big it would roll over if it tried rolling on a hill
if it didn't shoot on completely flat ground it woulld roll over
1 leman russ
I mean I can definitely imagine Tankettes existing purely because the Imperium is backwards as shit
Like they found an STC fragment when in reality it's just
wdym
russian tanks were great for what they were designed for
Good
Some random DAoT person who was a nerd and decided to make a Tankette design for shits and giggles
Because why not
And then thousands of years later, Tech Priests found it
the other thing with tank nerds is they love to compare in a black and white sense
And then began producing it



