40k-lore-chat

[plush mason]

how did a convo about fungi get to this?

[crystal forum]

fun fact this weird thing is in fact in the same family as the dog dick

that being the phallaceae family

the penis family

[celest dome]

@queen laurel quick question Soulbound can get Undead right ?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[dusk patrol]

Yes

https://cubicle7games.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-soulbound-champions-of-death

Iirc it’s a little more complicated

I remember Nagash not being a fan or something

For some reason

[crystal forum]

is nagash ever a fan of something

[dusk patrol]

He likes black licorice

[celest dome]

Probably lied to gain support to some wretched faction

[dusk patrol]

That doesn’t sound like him

[storm jungle]

Himself

does that count

[languid meadow]

gotta love yourself from time to time

[plush mason]

sounds overated to me

[outer wave]

Damn I missed Mushroom talk

[storm jungle]

jerk was having bad takes again

hopefully some spores grow in his ear

[plush mason]

lmao

[storm jungle]

^ said spore

[dusk patrol]

Unironically he does seem to hate himself based off the Mortarch’s

[plush mason]

fungi loves rot to eat so

[dusk patrol]

Needs a Mythical Therapist

[storm jungle]

He'd do the Aku thing

aka pose himself as the therapist

💀

[plush mason]

i love Aku

[storm jungle]

Same, its how i always picture Nagash

it helps that Aku is like an actual grimdark piece of shit when its needed which makes it even funnier

https://tenor.com/view/aku-contemplating-no-samurai-jack-gif-14733995589190710128

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/samurai-jack-aku-ayee-yes-gif-13587597

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-miserable-tony-gif-19233136

[storm jungle]

"no"

[storm jungle]

Im so much like Tony fr

[dusk patrol]

I just wish I had that body

[storm jungle]

cost the man his life

[plush mason]

it is peak dad body

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-jamesgandolfini-gif-5055312

Look at that specimen

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/one-shot-mushroom-mushroom-oneshot-darksouls-gif-19520559

[storm jungle]

also man

i gotta use sopranos gifs more in arguments

https://tenor.com/view/i-can't-have-this-conversation-again-tony-soprano-the-sopranos-gif-16274142811887245291

[dusk patrol]

A lot of problems wouldn’t exist in AoS if Sigmar and Nagash went to couples counseling

[storm jungle]

To be fair they tried

its just uhhh you know

[languid meadow]

sigmar talking to nagash

[celest dome]

You can try all you want

[dusk patrol]

You gotta do

[celest dome]

Sometime you're ina toxic relationship and nothing will get better

[plush mason]

like why did he make him a god

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-paulie-gualtieri-walnuts-you-wouldnt-believe-gif-17690034

[plush mason]

espeically given the stuff with the crown

[dusk patrol]

No one ever accused Sigmar of having great judge of character

[storm jungle]

I dont wanna hear that shit again

in this chat Sigmar Heldenhammer is a hero

https://tenor.com/view/tony-sopranos-what-cant-hear-you-gif-14266809

[dusk patrol]

Typical Sigmarite propaganda

[celest dome]

He is though

[storm jungle]

im a warrior priest main i gotta do it

[dapper gyro]

Who?

[plush mason]

the dude has been like the king of El Dorado more than once afaik

[storm jungle]

Sigmar Heldenhammer

hes a lost primarch

look it up

[plush mason]

kekw

[celest dome]

You take that back

[storm jungle]

ksdlkfkldsfs

[dusk patrol]

Some dork with a hammer who bumbled fucked his way into being a god

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-arthur-arthur-nightingale-warframe-1999-1999-gif-4632106320046100632

[dusk patrol]

Not like Nagash, who was based and earned it

[dapper gyro]

They say ignorant is a bless... you people are ruining it for me.

[plush mason]

and i am a witch hunter main so i guess i should be even crazier with my pro-sigmar stuff

[celest dome]

Sigmar is twice the man the Emperor wish he was

[dusk patrol]

It’s not fair Saltz has all the best lines

[storm jungle]

I remember some fascist twat on twitter saying the Emperor is better than Sigmar and it was such a funny thread, like it was so delusional i quit after like the first 3 reply-posts

[plush mason]

oh i was talking about age of reckoning lol

[storm jungle]

to be fair

age of reckoning gave us like

[dapper gyro]

Of course I know of Sigmar, but I don't want to be bought by Sigmarite propaganda.

[storm jungle]

all avaliable witch hunter art

all 4 of them

[plush mason]

ye

[celest dome]

Every few month theres one such thread on reddit somewhere

[storm jungle]

well yeah because social media was a mistake

somethin-gsomething

[celest dome]

People were a mistake

[storm jungle]

true

[plush mason]

the fact they made them look like badass vanhelsing clones is great lol

[dapper gyro]

Just ask r34 and they will spawn tons of arts without AI.

[plush mason]

the templars of sigmar had mad drip

i also loved their playstyle, just a rat being annoying during the big pushes in the rvr lakes

[rose thorn]

Every warhammer 40K take

[rose thorn]

The stormhost or the old world thing

[plush mason]

old world

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/_pcuAai62kY?si=SeHb25ZAFYui50VN

Me after someone said that the Orks keep the Emperor alive

[storm jungle]

Okay watched the new WH+ episode

its pretty ok

feels like it should just have been done in the normal H+B animation style instead of CGI but eh whatever

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/nic-cage-thats-high-praise-high-praise-andy-samberg-gif-5966364081332555504

[storm jungle]

Yeah i feel like its just too basic?

the entire plot is just a possessed marine hunting a generic squad of cadians

and its 18m so eh its fine, i liked it enough

[crystal forum]

they're not generic dilara they're just cadians

[storm jungle]

Woooow rude

[arctic talon]

it would be generic

no matter what like

guardsmen you used tbh

[storm jungle]

Yeah the plot itself is just eh

like again i love the premise

but it just doesnt do anything interesting

[arctic talon]

its like a bag of chips

its tasty

[storm jungle]

yeah pretty much

[dusk patrol]

If it was Mordians they would have killed him without any losses

[storm jungle]

LOL

[dusk patrol]

(I haven’t watched it yet)

[storm jungle]

Its a good enough watch for 18m

[crystal forum]

if it was krieg they would have uh

AFFIX BAYONETS

[storm jungle]

Lol true

[crystal forum]

oh i have an exception

[celest dome]

||Take out shovel and suicide charge 💀 ||

[crystal forum]

catachans would all have individual names and kick ass

starts wrestling the space marine

ooooh yeah brother

[arctic talon]

you don't want smoke with a possesed

on god

you know what on the upside the fact they aren't wearing flak is fine

Its not like it would have done much to funny daemon claws

[crystal forum]

flak is a joke

carapace is a funny joke

you know it's weird how we never really see the downsides of carapace depicted

it's literally just heavier flak

my headcannon is scions use it because they dont need to move much distance in their type of missions

except aquilons

god i want to kiss an aquilon on the mouth

so hot

[arctic talon]

Its downsides aren't super huge in lore tbf

its literally just heavier + marginally bulkier

[crystal forum]

that's a pretty big downside

[arctic talon]

I mean

to an extent yeah

but it also helps you catch bullets without dying much better

[crystal forum]

like terminator armour's weight is shown as a pretty important downside

lore just glances over the carapace situation

it's treated as better flak

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah because it generally is

if its just one or two pieces

full body carapace starts actually causing issues

[celest dome]

Game implication about the fact that it's also magnetic, while flak isn't ?

[arctic talon]

Left side is protection right side is encumberance

heavy only really is a peanlty if you're weak

[celest dome]

The implication that the Carapace gauntlets' stat are for each individual hand does make it much heavier than Flak

[arctic talon]

its a pair of them because of how arm injuries work in Maledictum

idfk why they wrote it that way 💀

I'd assume leftover from some earlier iteration

In any case maledictum made me appreciate flak armor much more

It stops stubpistol wounds from being fatal lol

[rose thorn]

oh is this the new rpg?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[rose thorn]

why is it called return to cadia then??

[arctic talon]

flak will genuinely save your life lol

against normal weaponry

[storm jungle]

idfk

[rose thorn]

"return to cadia"

https://tenor.com/view/nowhere-desert-highway-gif-13971394

[dusk patrol]

Cause it’s on Cadia

One of the Kasr which floats around with its void shield

[raven stone]

Wait is this, could this be, Dark Heresy resurrected?

[arctic talon]

It’s like dark heresy 1e but even lower level

[raven stone]

Fan work, I take it? Or an official product I missed?

[arctic talon]

Official product, imperium maledictum

[crystal forum]

wait like the kasr is just floating in space intact?

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

that's fucking hilarious

[dusk patrol]

It’s been a thing for awhile, Kasrkin were still fighting on them for a long time

Maybe still are

The void shields saved a few bases and Kasr

[crystal forum]

that's so dumb

why does chaos even bother

at least cadia had pylons as an excuse for why chaos was wasting so much time with it

and like, the planet blew up

[arctic talon]

It’s honestly more lethal then Dark heresy 1e due to its nature tbh

Which is hilarious

[storm jungle]

everyone i showed this episode to said the same thing

its super funny

also in this case its one Possessed marine thats trapped on the station, he wants to leave but the daemon just wants to do nothing but torment anyone that approaches the kasr, its so fucking dumb

[viral halo]

sounds pretty lore accurate to me

[crystal forum]

im talking about the "kasrkin still fighting in them" thing eternal was talking about

[viral halo]

Makes sense to me also, unironically

[crystal forum]

like im pretty sure kasrkin have better things to do than defend a floating rock

[arctic talon]

Tbf

Who the fuck is going to come for them

[crystal forum]

that forge world

[viral halo]

If a bureaucrat gets 1 digit wrong in a number the entire imperium collapses I think it's fair to say some mfs gonna be dying on a floating rock

[arctic talon]

They’re literally under constant attack by chaos

[crystal forum]

who isnt

skill issue

[arctic talon]

No like

24/7

[crystal forum]

free skitarii practise

[arctic talon]

Since the great rift has opened

[crystal forum]

i love how that forge world is the new cadia

but nobody talks about it

[arctic talon]

I mean

Don’t ask about the refugees

[crystal forum]

more skitarii

[arctic talon]

In terms of absorbing chaos attention

To an extent yeah it is a new Cadia

[crystal forum]

honestly an upgrade from being guard

they dont have pylons but it's a juicy target for chaos

[arctic talon]

But it’s hilarious that you have vehicles rolling off the assembly line -> a battle -> being blown up

[crystal forum]

chaos loves forge worlds

[crystal forum]

stalingrad situation

[arctic talon]

Yeah but a lot of people also get servitorized

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

i love how some weapon factories in stalingrad were still working while being bombed

[arctic talon]

They had rules in 8e to represent it

[crystal forum]

JUST MAKE MORE GUNS

[arctic talon]

“Fresh forged”

Was fucking hilarious

[crystal forum]

wasnt that for poorly painted models lol

[arctic talon]

No

But it worked on servitors and vehicles

Made them worse but you could ignore force org

In any case Agripinaa is fucking hilarious

[storm jungle]

Im gonna fight inside you after I shrink myself and rupture your innards in a second

https://tenor.com/view/smol-smolcat-smolcatcoin-smol-cat-coin-roswell-gif-17955566503905584826

[crystal forum]

idk if i should be scared or turned on

[storm jungle]

you're a furry so probably both tbh

[sly ivy]

Jesus

[plush mason]

i want to take offence but it is kinda true lol

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/metaphor-metaphor-re-fantazio-will-metaphor-protagonist-protagonist-gif-4360373816898240160

[sly ivy]

I know which one I am

[sly ivy]

Which way are u goin in

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-2-death-space-marine-2-gif-12976716491498684396

[winter vessel]

she's gonna make an orifice to enter, not use any existing ones

[sly ivy]

Right behind u; knife zealot build

[crystal forum]

i doubt it

knowing dilara she'll try to find the most painful orifice

probably the one you're currently thinking about

[winter vessel]

no

to busy doing a havoc run to think of one

[crystal forum]

girlboss be like: "mmmh i think i'll murder somebody with a kitchen knife today :3"

[sly ivy]

Dilara is every woman

Oprah move over

[sly ivy]

I’m usually thinking about at least 3 orifices @ any given time

Can I just say I randomly thought about this absolute banger in the middle of my real life today and started laughing

[rose thorn]

Do you think the gold on the armor is real gold, gold paint, or the gold you apply with a brush and glue

[winter vessel]

what if it’s just tinfoil gold

[arctic talon]

In universe its paint for most chapters

[rose thorn]

Valid

[crystal forum]

nah fuck that it's gold plated ceramite

in my head

[opaque coyote]

I like to think that the paint is made out of

Actual fucking gold

[arctic talon]

maybe lol

In any case they paint over the trims

as you go up companies

[opaque coyote]

Y'know with how much gold the Imperium uses. I genuinely wonder if there's just an entire industry dedicated to gold mining.

And just gold mining

Actually how much of the Imperium's resources are taken from gold mining and manufacturing skulls

I assume they manufacture most of the skulls anyways

Like the ones on buildings

[sharp pollen]

minecraft farm but you collect skulls

[opaque coyote]

The Emperor plays Minecraft.

Speedruns into the Nether

[arctic talon]

the skulls?

no

those are actual dead people skulls

[opaque coyote]

Makes a wither skeleton farm

[arctic talon]

"I helped conquer a thousand worlds. Did anyone ever call me Skaros the Worldtaker? No."

"I killed dozens of loyalists captains. Did anyone ever call me Skaros the Champion? No!"

“But you skin a few babies”

Quote from Skaros the Infantflayer

[opaque coyote]

Still thinking it would be a funny idea to have a planet/system dedicated to farming/making skulls

[arctic talon]

tbf

do you see how much wax is used

there has to be a bee planet

[opaque coyote]

And the bees are probably like

Offshoot tyranids

That evolved into producing honey and hives for some reason

"Ah Tyranids? They look a lot like the bees back in Stinger-IV. When I fought, it almost felt like I was back home."

[dapper gyro]

But wax doesn't need to be made by bee though.

Most candle wax are made of fat.

[sharp pollen]

fat bees

https://tenor.com/view/khaby-lame-tiktok-black-guy-who-has-a-point-pointing-to-make-fun-of-life-hacks-gif-21880198

[dapper gyro]

Are you shaming those hard working bees?

Monster

[languid meadow]

Smh

[rose thorn]

Bees wax is just superior

[dapper gyro]

My wax is made of the fat from the psychic mutant that sacrificed themselves daily to the Big E, Hence their warp repelling property. Bee wax is inferior.

[rose thorn]

Would you rather become a tank decoration or the emperor’s sexy lighting….

[dapper gyro]

You have bones and a skull, also a lot of fat there. You can do both.

(just joking, I don't know if you are fat or not.)

[crystal forum]

tank decoration is pretty tempting

i wanna be a skull adorning a leman russ

maybe a servitor if i'm lucky

[rose thorn]

Ye I knew what you meant lol

[rose thorn]

Remember, the more complex the task the more sentient the servitor

Would you rather be a door servitor or a librarian servitor

I think in spears of the emperor the repairmen servators could speak and hold conversation and opinions and shit

Actually being a Wikipedia servators must be pretty great

You spend 99% of your time eating grey flavorless food and memorizing all human information

For like, a life sentence there could be worse

[crystal forum]

door servitor

i dont want to think

i just want to open a door all day and be happy doing it

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/blood-gif-20829713

The door servators trying to leave it cracked open

[crystal forum]

hey dont mess with the door servitor, you never know when you might need it to kill somebody

have you seen 40k doors?? they're massive

shut that pneumatic on somebody and they'll get cut in half

[rare ivy]

Some of the best “would you rather’s” I’ve ever seen

[sly ivy]

This didn’t go so well 4 Durandal in Marathon

[queen laurel]

I'd rather be dead

[rose thorn]

Remember hired gun

[dapper gyro]

I have to put disclaimer on everything nowadays.

[rose thorn]

Necromunda hacking be like

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-gif-21644488

[opaque coyote]

The Imperium doesn't want you to know this

But Servitors are free

I have 20 in my basement

[dapper gyro]

Where ate you from?

[crystal forum]

NOT GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT

[opaque coyote]

I ate a beef and lamb gyro

[dapper gyro]

Correction, where are you from?

[crystal forum]

wait this mfer blocked me

i will kill him

i was going to check mark the correct grammar

well i guess you get NO GRADE

[spare osprey]

who

[crystal forum]

idk this guy

the guy above

[tough haven]

So I’m doing a 40K campaign where some of the players are unsanctioned psykers, any tips on descriptions or things to really make them feel like people that have had powers thrust unto them that are barely under their control? Also y’know, the constant literal daemons trying to breach their defenses and all that

I don’t want to make them feel too powerless or take away player agency though

I’m trying to recall books or examples of this done well in 40K media but I can’t think of any atm

To be clear none of them are chaos aligned…yet

Just trying to survive and hide their identities

[winter vessel]

I kinda imagine something like from X Men origins with Wolverine and Sabertooth. Their abilities manifest from some sort of trauma(well Logan). They spend time in a guard regiment to conceal it.

[tough haven]

No no like I have their backstories and stuff, I just mean like world building details or like things to add as they use powers and what it’s like living as a psyker with no safeguards

Like day to day survival in a hive city where you can’t trust anyone, even yourself

[crystal forum]

i think you can trust yourself

[winter vessel]

Welp, I’m tapped out for ten ideas then

[tough haven]

You’re in the nihilus which means psychic phenomena and daemons are more common, and there’s no black ships to worry about, but uh every imperial citizen could just take things into their own hands

[crystal forum]

if you're in nihilous i bet the planet has gone into full martial law already

[tough haven]

I appreciate the input though, but the players have in various ways obtained either paperwork or disguises to pose as sanctioned psykers

[summer mural]

maybe one of the them has a bad temper and he really sort of restrains himself with great deals of anxiety and stress because hes afraid his psyker powers will get loose if he starts malding

[crystal forum]

can't let any sign of chaos pass through

[summer mural]

like the hulk or something i dunno

[tough haven]

100% but it’s the lower levels so things are mostly dealt with by the gangs, and occasionally enforcers

[tough haven]

I mean like your decaying sanity

And the thoughts you aren’t entirely sure are your own

[summer mural]

also maybe one of them tries to help some dude out whos getting mugged and the dude runs away from him after seeing a bit of psyker power

calls him a freak and all that sorta thing

[tough haven]

It’s all new and terrifying and you have no one to guide you except for the voices who promise to teach you everything

[tough haven]

Classic, I like it

[tough haven]

Also, cut off from imperial authorities, I bet most imperials would KOS any psyker, even ones wearing adeptus Astra telepathica robes

Then again, there’s places in the nihilus that begrudgingly accept psykers as a unavoidable, but occasionally useful nuisance

Or just try to imprison them in hopes a black ship will come

[summer mural]

also maybe one of them is actually really comfortable and sorted living as a psyker, they have control over their powers to the degree its possible and have accepted their fate, but maybe they fall in love and start losing their mind and getting paranoid

because theyve hid being a psyker from their romantic interest

i dunno, im just spitballin here

[tough haven]

I’m also trying to think of ways that the non psykers in the party could potentially notice that their claims of being sanctioned might not be completely truthful

[tough haven]

All sounds cool, thanks!

[tough haven]

Like that stab mark right over the kidneys on the robes, and some dried blood

And how it doesn’t quite fit you

[opaque coyote]

I mean... if you're isolated from any sort of resupply.

Tbh since Psykers can just suddenly get possessed by Daemons.

You either

A) Ban Psyker Powers

B) Kill them all

[tough haven]

In the setting there is a rogue trader who was insane enough to pass through the rift, but that’s all the support they’ve gotten and will get, just his fleet

And that guy 100% can’t do that again and live

[tough haven]

Good luck with that

[opaque coyote]

I mean in the Nihilus side, they'd probably keep them alive

Mostly because Space Magic is useful

It kinda depends on how much infrastructure they have remaining

If they're part of a system.

If it's an isolated planet...

Yeah I can see a psyker genocide happening easily.

[tough haven]

I mean but would your average ganger or lower hiver react with anything but disdain?

[opaque coyote]

Oh we're on that scale

[tough haven]

Or would they treat it with fearful respect

[summer mural]

average gangers is probably gonna kill them for just stealing their staff or something

[tough haven]

Yeah in the more forgotten sections of the hive

[opaque coyote]

Yeah nah they'll either cause the Psyker to give up their soul to chaos just to fuck them over in the ultimate act of spite

or the Psyker would get killed

[tough haven]

I’m talking about the type that fill in where there aren’t enforcers, try to impose some order

There will be plenty of hostile ones though

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, I'd do the 1st option if I'm a psyker because if I'm going to die, might as well do a little bit of trolling

[summer mural]

those arent gonna react positively to psykers at all, you are correct yes

although, if they are organized criminals they may try to recruit a psyker for their own purposes

[tough haven]

Would those ignorant folk even recognize adeptus astra telepathica uniforms?

[summer mural]

thats upto the writer tbh

some might

[tough haven]

Eh I’ll make them recognize it just so I can have all the literal homeless people harass and degrade the psykers

[summer mural]

some might have a militarum background for example

[tough haven]

Throw shit at them, call them freaks, etc

But not like actually try to kill them out of fear, or at least until they can organize

Gotta have a proper witch hunting crew

[summer mural]

I wanna read something about space marines showing up in some hive city slum for the first time, not where youd expect them to be normally, and all the people there reacting to them

like do they get on their knees and start praying and does that one dumbass ganger try to pick a fight

[tough haven]

And all the while have the psykers hear voices trying to convince them to lash out and show these worms how much of a monster you really are

Idk if that’s too overt

[opaque coyote]

Depends on how experienced they are tbh

[tough haven]

That’d be cool

[opaque coyote]

If it's the average ganger

Probably not tho

If it's a veteran ganger, they definitely would

How do I say this?

Fear an old man in a profession where men die young

[opaque coyote]

Both

95% would pray though

[tough haven]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

I feel like you can like kinda feel if someone is a psyker like how you can feel blanks

[opaque coyote]

If the Psyker looks like they're about to crash out

They would run the fuck away though

Then again aprox. 70% of the psykers look like that

[summer mural]

well, you can take the dt psyker for example

[opaque coyote]

Especially with those hoods

[summer mural]

since thats just a regular hoomie psyker

I think some people would recognize that that guy is a psyker and some might not

~~ especially if he starts screaming about getting visions from his beloved~~

[tough haven]

Suspicion is a holy virtue

[opaque coyote]

Very skilled but tbf that goes for a lot of DT player characters

[summer mural]

yes I mean that psyker is good at their job

[opaque coyote]

Especially if they're unsanctioned.

Since Unsanctioned Psykers don't last long for a reason.

[summer mural]

but they also skirt the line between heresy and loyalty

[tough haven]

I think sanctioning is just a matter of training since most aren’t soul bonded

[opaque coyote]

Rigorous training and also telling them to

"No, that spell will get you possessed by Daemons"

"Use this instead"

It's like how humanity knew what herbs were healthy by trial and error.

If Grug died by eating pink mushroom, then pink mushroom not safe

But training would already let you know what isn't and is safe.

[summer mural]

also on different topic, I thought people liked cato sicarius, it turns out hes kinda hated

by people I mean readers

[opaque coyote]

Cato Sicarius was kinda basic as shit back then

I know people groan at this, but Matt Ward or whoever the fuck didn't write him that well.

People liked him much more after he got PTSD

[summer mural]

he had some self reflection time ig

on how hes been an asshole for his entire life basically

also I literally never made the connection that titus literally had catos job in sm1

[opaque coyote]

Also "helps" that he basically got all of his comrades murdered

and feels immensely gulity for that

Like his luck finally ran out.

[shadow plover]

How do you explain this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmlF2rw1weo

Check mate liberal

[crystal forum]

this is terrifying

i am legitimately scared

give mushrooms a robot body and they will fight back

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/one-shot-mushroom-mushroom-oneshot-darksouls-gif-19520559

Dark Souls 1 mushroom moment

[tough haven]

I have a rule where if a unsanctioned psyker triggers perils of the warp, they lose that power and get a random one to replace it, does that feel random or unpredictable enough

[opaque coyote]

@tough haven Y'know honestly I think the most wasted opportunity of the T'au in general is that...

Well their armies are just T'au

I know that's been said a billion

trillion times

But like... I'm currently reading about their auxillary species

and I really wished they were included as models for the T'au army

[tough haven]

Fr fr

[summer mural]

they do have some unique xenos for auxillary species dont they

[tough haven]

Like they’re a collective, look like it

[tough haven]

Yeah but they’re mentioned, never seen

Occasionally show up in books

[summer mural]

tau might be the 40k faction I know least about

[opaque coyote]

Like aren't one of their strengths (and also weakness) is that they don't immediately murder any race out of sheer paranoia?

Like they have a lot of minor xenos species as allies

And it would've been cool to see them as part of their main army

As like support

Similar to the Covenant

[summer mural]

tau are open to diplomacy afaik

well, relative to others

[opaque coyote]

Yeah. They actually try to talk with any new races.

[outer wave]

A few creatures surprisingly; bacteria are practically cloning themselves every minute of every hour of every day, a few trees like Quaking Aspen are known to make clones of themselves, strawberries make runners which are clones of the original plant.

[tough haven]

🔥 we need more mushroom musicians

[opaque coyote]

Although a lot of the times are more like

gunboat diplomacy

But considering 40k

It's better than what the Imperium considers diplomacy with Xenos...

AKA "we will murder you, your children, and then burn you alive... later."

[summer mural]

well, guilliman hasnt murdered every elf he knows 😉

[dapper gyro]

Even Vulkan is no exception

Especially Vulkan actually.

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Vulkan actually regretted the Eldar Child incident.

But yeah, he's still a primarch

He doesn't really care and also hate Eldar for...

[dapper gyro]

Yes yes, his stories are infamous.

[summer mural]

I wouldnt be surprised if vulkan straight up killed a hoomie for disagreeing with him

[opaque coyote]

fair reasons tbh. Although Khan probably hates them more

[summer mural]

much less a xenos

although vulkan is kinda nice guy to folks

[sly ivy]

Yeah ppl meme the shit out of this one in extremis war crime thing that he regretted forever

[dapper gyro]

Guilliman, god of diplomacy, is the only one to tolerate them.

[crystal forum]

all of these are abominations. we should destroy all strawberries

[opaque coyote]

He won't.

Unless if you're an alien.

Or a heretic.

[summer mural]

yes that is the salamander way

[crystal forum]

i think snails clone themselves too?

[opaque coyote]

But if you disagree with him on military policy or whatever

[crystal forum]

kill them all

[opaque coyote]

or get into an argument

[summer mural]

I also like how they just really love fire

[opaque coyote]

then he won't kill you.

[summer mural]

lets just not kill the xenos, lets conflagrate them for hours and hours

[opaque coyote]

They're also racist.

Like towards each other.

[outer wave]

I dunno about those, but aphids absolutely clone themselves (they do have sexual reproduction as well, but they give birth to live clones to propagate on a plant)

[opaque coyote]

I still have no idea why that's a detail but their home planet is racist towards each different nation

On the one hand, it does try to prevent the Planet of Hats problem that 40k has.

Which is nice.

[crystal forum]

idk if asexual reproduction counts as cloning

[opaque coyote]

On the other hand uhhhh

[sly ivy]

Parthenogenesis is heresy

[summer mural]

well, the salamander marines arent written with much personality, they can be kinda boring, at least black templars and dark angels have loads of attitude despite all the autism

[crystal forum]

i am no qualified in plant observing

[opaque coyote]

Black Templars are literally just insane.

[sly ivy]

That’s just Kyme

[opaque coyote]

Dark Angels are uh

how do I summarize this

...

"THE FALLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[sly ivy]

You stop talking that way about my based blinged out boys

[dapper gyro]

Dark Angels is straight autism.

[opaque coyote]

"Dude we're fighting a Waagh"

"THERE IS ONE TRAITOR THERE WE HAVE TO KILL HIM"

"dude. just calm down."

[sly ivy]

How do u know not gay autism

[summer mural]

the dark angels might have actually fared better if theyd publically accepted some of them are traitors instead of going to autistic lengths to try and keep it covered up

[opaque coyote]

The Space Marines are obviously straight.

I mean all of them have their daddy's seed inside of the-

[dapper gyro]

Cypher is like one of the few reasonable Dark Angel... but is always chased because of the "Fallen Angel", despite helping his chapter out more than anymore else.

[summer mural]

cyphers written to be cool

[sly ivy]

Cypher is annoying

[summer mural]

which works in his case

[winter vessel]

It’s why I like the angels of absolution. They got rid of the teenage angst and decided to get shit done

[opaque coyote]

"come on guys, there is more important things to focus out. Let us not focus on fighting each other, and instead fight the true enemies of the Imperiu-"

"TRAITOR. DEATH DEATH DEATH DEAHT DEA-"

[sly ivy]

He and John Grammaticus should go off and do action movies

[dapper gyro]

It is not just cool, it is reasonably cool.

[opaque coyote]

The Imperium at it's finest.

[crystal forum]

cypher is not reasonable

[summer mural]

honestly i like gk too , despite their particular brand of autism

mostly the mindwiping and murder to forget is a bit excessive, apart from that they seem ok

[sly ivy]

Yeah when’d u last talk 2 him huh

[summer mural]

and that whole thing with the uh..space wolves

[dapper gyro]

They are peak.

[opaque coyote]

They also don't do that anymore

[winter vessel]

Grey Knights. The 2nd worst astartes chapter to fight with as a guardsman

[opaque coyote]

Especially after Cadia's fall.

[summer mural]

yeah they are more public now arent they

[dapper gyro]

The only chapter with most reasonable successors are RG.

[crystal forum]

last time you touched a woman

[summer mural]

[opaque coyote]

It's kinda hard to NOT notice the gigantic warp rift whenever you look up in the sky

[sly ivy]

Wow is he there now

My mum hugged me goodnight

[crystal forum]

i never met him

[dapper gyro]

Like, RG are kind of boring, but they at least keep priority on duty and care above all else.

[opaque coyote]

Well... at least you're more likely to die from what you're fighting than if you're fighting with the Marines Malevolent

Marines Malevolent are literally just

1st Edition SMs

Well the Night Lords also are that but they're Chaos so....

[summer mural]

flesh tearers have to the worst chapter to fight alongside as a guardsman

[winter vessel]

They’re 1 on my list. Iron Warriors: “Weakness is a choice.” M&M: “imma be an asshole because I can”

[crystal forum]

the worst chapter to fight alongside is emperor's children

[summer mural]

but they seem so nice

theyve got hobbies

[crystal forum]

until they flay your skin for fun

[summer mural]

being a chaos guardsman does seem significantly worse than an imperium one somehow

[opaque coyote]

I mean they'd probably suddenly go berserk but they won't kill you

Intentionally.

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/2QnXsGPAeMU?si=R_lQojj9sUimClgo my favorite underdogs. So sad they’ve been forgotten by GW at this point

[dapper gyro]

The Word Bearers are actually the worst imo.

[summer mural]

like imagine being a chaos guardsmen around some bored world eaters

[opaque coyote]

Eh. If you're lucky, you're also hopped up on Chaos Juice so you don't care

[winter vessel]

But among those, was a based dreadnought known as the “Anchorite”

[dapper gyro]

Every traitor legions have at least one or two hard headed dreadnoughts.

[winter vessel]

Yeah, Lhorke from the World Eaters had one hell of a wake up after seeing what his Primarch did

[summer mural]

also iirc the fate of the world eaters 1st company is more sad than all of them just getting wiped out

literally a disgrace to claim your from the world eaters elite company

[dapper gyro]

EC also has one that tried to kill Fulgrim by himself, too.

[winter vessel]

Rylanor “Adamantium balls” the Ancient of Rites

[summer mural]

Rylanor

[winter vessel]

Fulgrim was putting on his best mascara, thinking of all the things his forgotten son of his legion would say to him

And rylanor went “I have a bomb” and convinced Magnus’ nerds that “Fulgrim is cringe” and devastated the planet again

[summer mural]

he nuked him in the face

based

[winter vessel]

But nonetheless, this has been shaping up to be a good year for the EC from the showcase in Las Vegas

looks at trophy case meant for Perturabo Chaos mini “one day”

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the Thousand Sons there were gonna die anyways

If not by the bomb

Then by Fulgrim

[summer mural]

does perty have any chaos model at all

i dont think so

[opaque coyote]

So basically they just weighed their options

and decided the best one was to fuck over Fulgrim.

[summer mural]

does perty even have a non chaos model

[opaque coyote]

Because fuck Fulgrim

Not literally.

[dapper gyro]

Fulgrim bullied the shit out of Magnus.

So it is understandable that TS side against Fulgrim.

[opaque coyote]

...does he even have an area to fuck anyways? Like he replaced his lower body with a snake half.

[summer mural]

well

[opaque coyote]

...

[dapper gyro]

Don't question it.

[summer mural]

do you really want answers to that question

[dapper gyro]

You will get corrupted by trying to look for an answer for it.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the answer is probably in some

Chaos corrupted grimore anyways.

[summer mural]

his new model is nice though

I like how hes fully corrupted now, his last model had his face and arms still be pretty

and the wings on that model were massive

[dapper gyro]

So, we have some suspected loyalist successors from traitor legions, which one do you like the most?

[summer mural]

wings for days

smoller wings

[dapper gyro]

Imagine rookie painters break those thin wings.

[winter vessel]

the tiniest snap would equate to trauma

[sly ivy]

But they look so good

[arctic talon]

the wings on the old mini were a total nightmare lol

both to assemble + transport

[summer mural]

new mini not having his good looks like old mini is a nice change

[winter vessel]

I knew a guy who accidentally chipped the left wing when he was putting it on his rack display, it hit the pole.

right after he was done painting

[shadow plover]

I love both and I think it's fitting that there's a notable difference in 10k years of deamonhood

the FW wings are absolutely stellar looking no doubt but agreed a pain to use in any gaming setting

[arctic talon]

I knew someone who had to clean a fuck ton of flash

off his fulgrim wings

and it was a total nightmare lol

[shadow plover]

if it's unbearable you can always ask for replacements

[winter vessel]

my guy didn't speak in our server for two days, he was that depressed

[shadow plover]

FW usually provides

[summer mural]

is that vulkans main hammer

I forgot what it was called

[dapper gyro]

Are the wings 3d print or injection moulding?

[shadow plover]

neither, cast resin

the latter one is injection

[dapper gyro]

Too bad...

[sly ivy]

Y do u h8 beauty

[summer mural]

also, I like guilliman with a cape, i actually dont like his new armor at all

it doesnt have a cape and its got too much swirly shit on it

[sly ivy]

Little tiny micro sword

[summer mural]

this one

no cape, too much pattern design use for guilliman

although I guess you can explain the patterns excessive usage for it not really being the armor he picked personally

[sly ivy]

It would 100% be in 40k guilliman’s character to be annoyed w how his new armor looks

[summer mural]

yes

[arctic talon]

he's not a fan of it lol

like explictly

[sly ivy]

I thought that was just that he was tired of pooping in it so he took it off and decided not to die

[summer mural]

I like the old one better in terms of his personality, since he looks like a roman general, which kinda makes sense for him, in the new one, which he didnt get to select personally, Id hope he at least slaps a cape on it somehow

[dapper gyro]

But that groin protection though

[summer mural]

emperors sword looks very nice though ngl

[sly ivy]

30k guilliman is naked under those leather straps

It’s like a kilt

[dapper gyro]

His armour is very close to the Starcraft Marine armour, which is kind of an irony.

[shadow plover]

and at the beginning he could not even get out of the armour, but currently he can go for a while without it but needs to return to it sooner rather than later

[sly ivy]

That’s his real gladius

[spare osprey]

I do prefer the loyalist primarchs as they were in the heresy tbh

Like they never really explain lion’s new armor

He just kinda wakes up in it

[sly ivy]

Wat but new lion model kicks ass

[spare osprey]

Eh

[summer mural]

I like this though, its got awesome little details

[dapper gyro]

He has the up side down toilet seat to protect it.

[spare osprey]

It’s not a bad model

30k is just cooler

[arctic talon]

That’s because brooks is a hack

[summer mural]

also I appreciate that angron isnt fully naked as a daemon prince of khorne

hes mostly armored up

[sly ivy]

Yeah but even that is mid compared to 30k kabhadabadoodoo guy

[arctic talon]

Son of the forest is so boring because Lion got hit with the fucking

[sly ivy]

Released around the same time

[arctic talon]

Off screen character development beam

[shadow plover]

also helps that the 30k Lion sculpt is a lot more modern than most of the other primarch kits

[arctic talon]

It’s lame and I hate it

[summer mural]

and his magic walks in the forest

[shadow plover]

Lion was one of the last ones to be released

[sly ivy]

The emperor cured his autism

Terrible

[spare osprey]

He definitely should’ve gotten “nicer” as the book went on

[arctic talon]

30k Lion sculpt was one of the last 30k primarchs yeah

[spare osprey]

Instead of just during his sleep

[winter vessel]

Lion went on a walk through the forest...literally

[sly ivy]

He was the last wasn’t he

[arctic talon]

no

[spare osprey]

I think khan was the last

[summer mural]

this lion?

[arctic talon]

yeah it was khan

[dapper gyro]

Corax is hand down the funniest of the primarch mini.

[sly ivy]

Oh khan right

[arctic talon]

40k Lion is fine

[shadow plover]

also Khan kit fucking RULES

[sly ivy]

Yeah he looks good

[arctic talon]

I like both his 30k and 40k kit tbh

I wish his 40k one had less gold ig

but aside from that I'm a fan

[spare osprey]

I think lion’s got the best base imo

I mean just a pile of dead marines

[summer mural]

I actually love 40k lion with his helm on, it looks so dope

[shadow plover]

it's great

[spare osprey]

Y’know what I hate tho?

Why fucking

Give him the iron halo

[sly ivy]

40k lion better

[summer mural]

LOL

[spare osprey]

If it doesn’t work with the helmet

[summer mural]

that is true

[spare osprey]

I had to fuckin cut it all up to be able to use the iron halo and all 4 heads

[shadow plover]

he's got an iron rectangle though

[summer mural]

it does work with the hood ig

[spare osprey]

And then he fucking FELL off my desk

[dapper gyro]

Guilliman helmet looks good if not better imo.

[winter vessel]

i thought you were going to complain about the wings on his helm, was about to throw hands and defend the Teutonic Knights

[spare osprey]

No the wings are iconic, I’m upset by the position of the halo

[winter vessel]

yeah its a bit odd

[spare osprey]

They could’ve just made it go up

[sly ivy]

Bro went forestwalking

[summer mural]

guilliman helmet looks good, but lions helm has that vibe, where its like looking at the lion marching into battle is not pleasant for the enemy

[spare osprey]

Instead they did like

Outwards

[summer mural]

its those giant upturned wings that really scream " Im here to fuck you up"

[spare osprey]

I also prefer the mk2 style segments on 30k lion

[dapper gyro]

I don't know why Dark Angel has a "lion" primarch but the rest of this stuff are wing themed...

[spare osprey]

I think he’s a bit too smooth in 40k

[spare osprey]

The poem

Pretty much it

And they’ve got a lot of themes going on about them

[shadow plover]

https://www.thedarkfortress.co.uk/librarium/lionel_johnson.php

[spare osprey]

Some polish, some plains Native Americans, some welsh

They’re a good mash

[summer mural]

I like that that they didnt give guilliman those gold plated victrix guard faceplates

[spare osprey]

I do like giving primarchs helmets when we hadn’t seen them before

I like fulgrims new one

[winter vessel]

never did like those models, always looked like they were wearing mustaches

[summer mural]

fulgrims helm is suprisingly not ostentatious

its looks like a regular space marine helmet pretty much

[shadow plover]

quite a few people dislike the helm

I thought it was fine, but I'll always prefer helmetless faces on primarchs

[tough haven]

I can’t express how much I need more ogryn content in 40K I love my giant goofballs

[queen laurel]

i will say they are cool, but I think it does remove that characterization that they have

probably why most people would want a primarch mini is to see their face

and of course the cool things it has

[sour hornet]

I don't mind it, the rest of him is ostentatious enough for his helmet to be pretty regular yet not an issue.

[summer mural]

I like lions helm

normally id prefer them to be helmless too

but lions helm looks like it completes the outfit I dunno

[shadow plover]

that's true

same with his 30k counterpart

it's the one I'd consider having a helmet on

but I do like the old man Lion a lot too

I'll probably paint both like with Guilliman

although I've lost the helmet version, probably during my last move

[dusk patrol]

I hate number sequence bullshit

To be clear, it should just be 25, but thats not an option so you need to read the mind of the dumbfuck who made this and figure out its actually a sequence of prime numbers and AASFAFAWFDDAW

These fuckers know number sequences are easy so they do shit like this.

[shadow plover]

having one extra at the beginning would make it pretty clear

[dapper gyro]

Those are prime numbers...

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[dapper gyro]

It is not that hard to recognize.

[shadow plover]

but not having 25 as an option should maybe give an idea what you are supposed to be looking for

[dapper gyro]

I just looked at it, and didn't even read what you wrote under it.

[dusk patrol]

I agreed, but it’s mostly a speed test. This is just a practice test anyways, so it’s not a big deal.

It’s just annoying

[shadow plover]

ah

[dusk patrol]

It’s 80 questions in 30 minutes with no calculator so you have to rush a lot, it’s not complicated it’s just lots of stuff you gotta write down.

It also largely has nothing to do with what I’m actually going to be doing

[dapper gyro]

What is it for?

[dusk patrol]

Just part of the electrician program, one of many little things

It’s technically aptitude but it’s just there to grade us on stuff which isn’t useful

[dapper gyro]

I think the last time I did such test it was 2 hours long.

[dusk patrol]

Like the no calculator thing exists because it’s been that way since the 80s

That’s the only real reason

[dapper gyro]

Passed highest in that room, but the only to pick the dumbest job.

[dusk patrol]

Not complaining, I get paid to sit in class

But it’s silly stuff

[shadow plover]

To an extent I suppose, but I do believe having to do calculations in your head does help to train your brain to think about these things

[dusk patrol]

It’s not in our heads really though

Most of this stuff you need a pen and paper

[shadow plover]

even with paper at hand

[dapper gyro]

Eh?

Like, why do you need pen and paper to recognize prime numbers?

What do you even write down?

[dusk patrol]

I said most, the number sequence stuff is easy

[shadow plover]

I was thinking of other calculations the test might have, sequences aren't what I had in mind

[dusk patrol]

There’s some you can just eyeball but most is like graphing and shit you need to write out properly

Like I said it’s not hard, it’s just pointless

I’m not learning anything applicable to the job.

At least for this, other stuff is

[dapper gyro]

It does for your job as electrician or related subject.

There is the "Doing the job because it has always been done that way" and "Doing the job because you understand the job".

[dusk patrol]

Almost everything I'm doing and going to be doing is measuring and plugging in some formulas.

And for anything not simple I'm double checking my work with a calculator.

Like I said, we're actually doing the stuff properly, this is just busy work and so they can grade us.

[summer mural]

do only honor guard and victrix guard get to wear those gold ultramarine faceplates

[dusk patrol]

Depends, captains can do what they want

[summer mural]

that is true

but I cant find like a paragraph on that particular piece of gear

[dusk patrol]

But yes Victrix/Honor Guard are who we see them with almost always.

Generally second company

That being said You can see Calgar's honor guard in SM2 are First Company, and all companies have some honor guard typically.

I think the Victrix are a separate deal now, with Cato being their captain.

But generally they seem to keep the second company gold.

[shadow plover]

I think his honour guard are still Vitrix even if they were 1st company

[dusk patrol]

Yeah as far as I can tell his are always gold

I imagine they just paint it to match who they're guarding.

Not gonna get on to check but I imagine the ones assigned to Acheran on the Battlebarge for SM2 are gold

[shadow plover]

most likely, don't think it's too far fetch to assume each company has it's own vitrix members

[dusk patrol]

They do

Captains basically always have some honor guard.

[shadow plover]

yeah they were

[dusk patrol]

And the company champion and ancient and all that

People there to make sure the captain can focus on leading over fighting if he needs to

Although for other chapters it’s more often terminators protecting them

[shadow plover]

actually, everyone who dropped in with Calgar in the cinematic were 1st company, intercessors included

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[shadow plover]

that's a neat detail

[dusk patrol]

Yeah they were very good with the details

Lots of little stuff

[shadow plover]

or at least veterans, don't think every second company vet has gold trimmings

[arctic talon]

They’re sternguard

In the cutscene technically

[shadow plover]

but given how 1st company is only veterans you can assume they're 1st company

intercessor veterans are still a thing, sternguard would be a bit more specialized and more decorated I think

[dusk patrol]

1st company is also often spread around between the companies

Depending on how they’re fighting and all that

[arctic talon]

They got sent to the retconian

With the 10e codex

[shadow plover]

well they don't have their own unit/datasheet anymore but don't think they've been retconned away entirely have they

[arctic talon]

They’re not in the chapter organization chart

For 1st company anymore

It’s just Sternguard veterans, vanguard veterans, bladeguard vets, terminators

[shadow plover]

like this is different in the 10th ed codex?

this is from 9th afaik

[south gorge]

@storm jungle do you have the vraks model autogun pictures?

or @arctic talon

sorry for the pings.

like not ingame.

oh wait found one. wouldn't object to pictures though. thank you.

[summer mural]

apparently victrix honor guard are a formation of the honor guard

[south gorge]

[summer mural]

as a group of honor guard handpicked by girlyman

[celest dome]

The 'vrak' pattern is invented, but there are others

[queen laurel]

that's an ork shoota, but i guess it is just a big Auto Gun

[south gorge]

ik

[south gorge]

but I have the customization mod

[summer mural]

thats a clean lookin victrix guard

[south gorge]

and killiam shankspear picking up an orc shootah is very Yarrick.

[south gorge]

waiting for the green thumb thing to come back in the shop but this'll have to do for now.

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[shadow plover]

I see

[opaque coyote]

So uh

I am going to admit to something

So my online computer class has a discussion thingy.

Essentially one of those stupid icebreakers.

Basically, our college professor wanted us to post our favorite pets. Along with typing some details about them. Whether real or fictional /fantastical and detail it.

...

So I decided to run with it.

And uh

This is my pet, Z'ETHRURU: CONSUMER OF FLESH AND SIN. This is an old picture of him still hunting in the wild. He is a horrifying mass of skin and flesh with several eyes, a huge maw in the middle of his mutated body, the remains of some unlucky human being acting as a totem, along with a spine as his tail. Along with an unknown mass of tentacles, arms, and various other unknown appendages. Being such a silly guy, he is absolutely covered with strawberry jam. How delicious!

Credit: Chaos Spawn by Adrian Smith

So yeah I basically detailed how a Chaos Spawn was my pet.
Yes I used this exact image

Either my teacher will laugh

Or he'll regret ever making an icebreaker

[celest dome]

You can't just claim a human, even as mutated as that as a pet

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I basically made up some shit since I doubt my teacher would know what Warhammer is.

I basically just used the image because I thought it'd be funny and an image was required

[opaque coyote]

His true age is unknown because he comes from another dimension. I estimate that he has been in this universe for one million years. However, he has been with me for around 10 years. He sleeps in the dog house outside my backyard. I tried having him sleep near me, but the screams of the damned kept interrupting my sleep.

[queen laurel]

Of course you would make a slave chaos spawn a pet

Like you could have posted any warhammer creature

But you decided to pick a chaos spawn

You are truly a sick individual

[opaque coyote]

You're mean! Z'ethruru is a wonderful pet!

I take him out for walks everyday

[queen laurel]

He had a family until you shot him with a f****** chaos mutation laser you sick f******

[opaque coyote]

Well I mean it was a free food source

[languid meadow]

This is something I'd see the master create

Also just a really cool chaos spawn design

[opaque coyote]

Yeah Adrian Smith is a good artist

He even created this famous image

[hasty coral]

You’re getting bullied

[opaque coyote]

It's an online only class

What are they gonna do

[hasty coral]

Cyber bullying

[opaque coyote]

Send mean messages to me

[hasty coral]

Come on

[opaque coyote]

I'll just

Not look at them

[hasty coral]

They already solved this problem

[opaque coyote]

And touch grass

Immediately gives me immunity

[hasty coral]

You play Darktide

And are into Warhammer

“Go outside”

[opaque coyote]

Oh damn you're right

It'd kill me

[hasty coral]

Yeah right

Maybe we were the real Daemons all along

🗣️

[opaque coyote]

Maybe the true Warhammer

Was inside of us all along

• Some Heretic 10 seconds before he gets slapped by a Thammer

[hasty coral]

What IS Fatshark even working on right now anyways?

Unless I missed something they’ve been pretty radio silent besides Havoc mode

Like not even a “what comes next”

I would KILL for another faction

Give me Genestealers

Yes I’m aware of the implications of Genestealers

I don’t care

GIVE

[celest dome]

FS never mention what they are working on till it's really close to releasing

[celest dome]

No, there are not

[hasty coral]

Doesn’t the presence of them mean a fleet is coming?

Generally?

Like I thought their whole thing was weakening the world FOR a fleet

[queen laurel]

it's more that they are already quite similar to the roster that adding them is rather

kind of redundant really

[celest dome]

Their presence isn't even confirmed

[queen laurel]

yeah that too

[hasty coral]

No I mean

Genestealers being present anywhere

[celest dome]

Not that a new faction wouldn't basically be similar in all likely case

Like how the Scab are to the Dreg

[hasty coral]

Minotaurs more apt

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/the-interview-james-franco-david-skylark-same-but-different-but-still-same-gif-4956158

[queen laurel]

yeah honestly at least some visual variety would help

[celest dome]

They aren't

[queen laurel]

yeah they are you know a lot but they aren't everywhere everywhere

[hasty coral]

I know they haven’t even been hinted at

They aren’t needed

They probably would suck

But BUT

Funny Bald people

[hasty coral]

No I was asking

Does a Genestealers cult often mean a hive fleet is or will be coming?

[shadow plover]

to an extent

[celest dome]

If they're able to send the psychic call yes

[hasty coral]

Ah ok

[shadow plover]

you can have cultists anywhere, the fleet will get anywhere in the end probably

[hasty coral]

Yeah

It doesn’t mean a fleet is on its way right that second but

It means one might be aware of the planet’s location

[opaque coyote]

Fatshark is an apt name for their company.

They are slow to arrive.

But once they do. Hold on to your pants

...

Because they'll probably be eaten along with your legs.

Okay this analogy fell apart

[hasty coral]

Like Cadia

Too soon?

[opaque coyote]

I find it funny that lorewise

Cadia is basically treated similarly to how

People treat 9/11

Nowadays

Like a lot of people just make jokes about it.

And then some people get really offended. Even if they weren't alive to see it.

[hasty coral]

Ok but seriously

NOBODY ELSE thought that a giant moon sized space station would be a good weapon?

Like they only tried that AFTER everything else?

[celest dome]

Or like how only the people from there care about it 🤷

[hasty coral]

They just threw a fucking moon at a planet

Why didn’t they do that EARLIER

[celest dome]

There are like 13 of them

[hasty coral]

Wtf Abbadon

[celest dome]

Even as broken as it was it was very wasteful plan

[opaque coyote]

There's only 13, and the one they had was jury-rigged.

[hasty coral]

I GUESS?

But like Cadia was worth it

[sacred ginkgo]

The Blackstone fortresses are ill understood and highly predatory to anything poking around in them

[hasty coral]

For Chaos

[opaque coyote]

Barely.

A Blackstone Fortress could've done so much more if it worked

But it was broken

Basically a hunk of metal

So

YEEET

[hasty coral]

I’m just saying I’d be PISSED if I died fighting for Abbadon when that was a giant win button that was ALWAYS available

[hasty coral]

Such as?

[shadow plover]

a lot of his followers weren't happy that he destroyed the fortress either

[opaque coyote]

Literally vaporize an entire system. The thing was basically extremely deadly.

But they also had trouble making it work even before it fucking broke

Since all of the Blackstone Fortresses are sentient

[celest dome]

Honestly pulling back and keeping the Black Fortress would have probably been a better deal

[opaque coyote]

And they hate people actually doing shit to them

Especially Chaos

[hasty coral]

Oh shit they are OLD ONES tech

[shadow plover]

A Blackstone Fortress is a hyper advanced weapon of mass destruction and he used it like a club

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[hasty coral]

Oh damn

[opaque coyote]

To put it in perspective

Abaddon basically slammed a diamond into a ball of dirt

So hard that the diamond broke

Some of the Chaos Forces also were bitter about it

[hasty coral]

But tbf Cadia falling WAS huge

For Chaos

[opaque coyote]

It was.

[celest dome]

I mean, not that much

Like Cadia didn't stop the other Black Crusade before