#40k-lore-chat

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storm jungle
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"yes"

summer mural
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they dont do a lot of elemental stuff except fire do they

queen laurel
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You want to make sense of that even though there are literal skeleton aliens here that have swords that vibrate through dimensions to cut stuff?

summer mural
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well i guess those space wolves not-psykers call down ice storms

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yknow their shamans that arent librarians

crisp heath
queen laurel
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How does this guy have the capacity to yap this long for like 10 f****** guns

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I respect the commitment but god damn

summer mural
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make sense of how every callidus assassin uses full blown necron phase swords

storm jungle
barren prawn
storm jungle
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I hate em both

summer mural
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majorkills favourite legion is the dark angels so

queen laurel
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We are equal haters here

queen laurel
summer mural
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i love offending 40k fans, thats why im here

shadow plover
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MajorKill more like Major fucking bore am I right

summer mural
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at least he has a life sized custodian spear in his garage somewhere

crisp heath
shadow plover
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🫔

summer mural
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anyone else think calgar looks a lil small in size in sm2

storm jungle
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He got nerfed

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fucking toy story ahh

summer mural
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like hes great and all, but when I saw him I was like " yeahhh...you didnt kill an avatar of khaine by yourself"

queen laurel
shadow plover
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a lucky grot can kill an avatar of khaine by themselves

storm jungle
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oh wait-

summer mural
shadow plover
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I could've sworn he already had

pine wedge
queen laurel
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Khaine is literally the plot device to prove my character is awesome

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Nothing more nothing else really

celest dome
summer mural
shadow plover
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Old Calgar art made him look pretty hefty, but he's not really much larger than your average marine

queen laurel
pine wedge
queen laurel
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Yep it is and like

summer mural
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calgar art is kinda nuts yes

queen laurel
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The ways it has died sometimes are incredibly dumb

celest dome
summer mural
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he looks bigger than a custodian in most of his art

queen laurel
pine wedge
storm jungle
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Thats just artistic interpretation mostly

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Calgar is still a normal marine

summer mural
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indeed

storm jungle
queen laurel
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Yeah honestly if anything he isn't really famed for his size right

storm jungle
shadow plover
queen laurel
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He's more like your generic average good leader guy type beat

summer mural
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well hes also known for being kinda insane compared to average marine in combat, because the writers really wanted him to be i dunno

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godlike?

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no clue what they were going for

pine wedge
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That's just par for the course with a cool chapter master. You put him in a suit of unique armor with unique artificer weapons and then make him very killy and voila

queen laurel
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I mean he has pretty cool weapons but i wouldn't put him as like a known for combat

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^

shadow plover
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unless it's the Imperial Fists chapter master

crisp heath
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I think he's very intimidating

summer mural
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really? calgar? hes got a stacked resume in personal combat even for a cm

celest dome
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Daimo looking ass-pose

arctic talon
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Imperial fists chapter master die every 3 editions

shadow plover
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Calgar also has had his ass beat many times

summer mural
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that is true

arctic talon
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It’s tradition

summer mural
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hes been near death a lot

arctic talon
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I forgot the name of

storm jungle
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Who?

summer mural
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m something

arctic talon
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He’s gona die next edition

storm jungle
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Chip Fistzard?

arctic talon
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Sure let’s go with that

queen laurel
summer mural
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yes

arctic talon
celest dome
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Who care about his name, he'll be dead before the end of the week

shadow plover
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yes, and Abaddon and something else

arctic talon
summer mural
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copium

arctic talon
queen laurel
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Yeah that was pretty funny i will say

summer mural
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lysander is pretty much the only choice though

arctic talon
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Nah

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They’re going to shit out a new captain

celest dome
arctic talon
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Lysander was up the last two times it happened

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Both 5e and 8e

summer mural
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they will create another generic cm before promoting lysander ig

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hes got nice stories as a captain

arctic talon
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Next edition

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It is time

summer mural
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imagine if titus becomes cm instead of cato

arctic talon
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Cato isn’t even up for it anymore really

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Bro isn’t a captain now

shadow plover
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he's on some special assignment isn't he

summer mural
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i think guilliman can just rewrite the codex to elevate cato tbh

arctic talon
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He’s the leader of the vitrix guard

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He’s also got unresolved Ultraptsd

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Not a good thing for a chapter master

shadow plover
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oh right

arctic talon
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His hobbies rn are literally staring into the void

summer mural
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that other guy aint good either, a something

arctic talon
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And reliving people screaming as they die

summer mural
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agamon?

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agremus?

arctic talon
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I think it’s the first one?

summer mural
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theres also the guy, ventris

summer mural
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last time I remember ventris was committing mass warcrimes against nids via poison

shadow plover
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who's the captain of the first company

arctic talon
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Agemon

summer mural
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a something

arctic talon
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Or whatever

summer mural
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agemon

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something like that

arctic talon
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Agamon?

shadow plover
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Agemman

summer mural
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his resume aint as stacked as cato's though

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agemman

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yes

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ty

celest dome
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The dude from Troy ?

summer mural
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severus agemman iirc

celest dome
summer mural
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no thats agamemnon

shadow plover
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oh yeah the Leviathan Terminator captain is a stand in for him

summer mural
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#sharrowkynforCM

shadow plover
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like Acheran had a stand in in the uhhhh

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ahhh

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Shadowspear

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box set

summer mural
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apparently living in ultramar aint that bad

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apart from the..invasions of bugs

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but like, in terms of governance

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the ultramarines talk to regular folk and encourage painting and shit

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and afaik their cities arent giant hivecity slums

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they have pavilions and fountains and things

shadow plover
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the remembered empire....

pine wedge
summer mural
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well

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he does have an easier life now that guilliman is officially in charge id assume

barren prawn
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i really hope they write something with the lion and guilliman interacting again

storm jungle
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I mean they will

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just gonna be awhile

crisp heath
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When vulkan

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Maybe i'll actually read another warhammer book if then

celest dome
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Who are the missing ones rn ?
Russ, Dorn, Corax, Jagathai, Vulkan for loyalist
Perturabo, religious dude, Omegon for Chaos

crisp heath
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I know people say sanguinius is dead but come on

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He's a vampire inspired thing that's "dead" in his sarcophagus, of course he's gonna rise

celest dome
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Sanguinus is represented by the Sanguinor and that dude who wish for death but never get it

crisp heath
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Just like in nosferatu

crisp heath
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And there will be on his cheek

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But a single tear

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With his golden hair waving in the wind

barren prawn
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i want sangui and vulkan back so bad

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imagine sangui coming back but with full metal wings šŸ˜

vagrant fox
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Sanguinius returning would be a second legion book for me

rose thorn
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Fun fact! This is the most expensive terrain piece in AOS, you can place one with a spell but if you have the named gardener character you have to have up to 3 of them

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In total it’s 200 dollars

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210*

queen laurel
rose thorn
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Ahhh

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Yeah

queen laurel
rose thorn
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It has a really good melee attack and makes people diseased

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And you can place it anywhere on the board basically

queen laurel
rose thorn
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No

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I think the app is wrong because it doenst have its deployment rules

shadow plover
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aren't deployment abilities army rules, not unit rules

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or do you mean an early deployment movement phase like the night runners for skaven

queen laurel
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It's just a terrain you plop down somewhere and it spreads disease and kills anything near it

summer mural
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between the crazy op blood angels librarian whose name I forget and dante

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so maybe in the 40k end times or something theyl unite his soul somehow

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because dante dying would not surprise me

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and then the blood angels be like " oh hes finally achieved death like he wanted? GOOD NOW DRAG HIS ASS INTO THAT DREADNOUGHT "

south gorge
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The merriest of Sues.

summer mural
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yeah how has that dude not exploded into warp dust by now

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he flies around with psyker wings and does warp storm spells

south gorge
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Don’t the blood angels also have a full on librarian dreadnought?

summer mural
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dunno, but librarian dreadnought is acceptable

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mephiston doesnt even lose it when hes black raging

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he just does more spells and smashes heretics

south gorge
summer mural
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is there an amazing psyker in the imperium thats not a space marine

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the big e doesnt count

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or inquisitors

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because it seems non augmented psykers get chained up and unleashed like weapons, but librarians have a nice amount of freedom and independance

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like they can just do whatever a regular marine does but nobody has them caged up or restricted

south gorge
summer mural
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eh

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ig

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I really meant a rank and file kinda character

south gorge
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I mean he can unfold the brain wrinkles on a primarch

south gorge
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Oooh uh

sly ivy
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Primaris

summer mural
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sigilite is like, half the founder of the imperium

sly ivy
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Just statistically you would expect that the most powerful psykers in the imperium are not space marines.

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Though as we know the most most powerful ones are generally insane

summer mural
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there isnt a temple for psyker assassins either, which is interesting

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culexus are the opposite

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but youd think the imperium would be like psyker assassins is doable considering how far they go to create the other assassin types

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i guess all the best psyker candidates literally get sent to grey knights and die or become grey knights

sly ivy
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Women

summer mural
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oh thats right

south gorge
# summer mural culexus are the opposite

Which is also weird that they would foster more null assassins considering the only assassin to ever get close to ā€œassassinatingā€ the emperor was like a super null.

summer mural
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women

sly ivy
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Always the problem

summer mural
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nulls are super rare, rarer than psykers

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so I can see how they literally just cant find enough nulls

sly ivy
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Stable super powerful psykers among mortals if discovered early enough I think would get channeled selectively into the progenium to train for inquisition if their iqs are high enough

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Since that’s the highest value mortal organization

summer mural
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yeah inquisiton has some nasty psykers, who have total freedom to use their abilities of course

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which you know, does make sense

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but sanctioned regular militarum attached psykers have it pretty bad

south gorge
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But yeah I’m blanking on non rt non inquisition psykers that aren’t just glorified attack dogs

summer mural
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so like any non marine or inquisitor psyker is basically an attack dog, like you said

sly ivy
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And then others who are maybe less skilled would be battle psykers

south gorge
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Oh wait that one clone guardsman regiment that respects psykers.

sly ivy
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There are also astropaths

sly ivy
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The ministorum etc

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They would just not advertise it

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Try to skirt regulations

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There may well be a fair number of don’t ask don’t tell psykers around

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Given the distributed autonomy and decentralization of the imperial bureaucracy

summer mural
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yeah, plus I mean

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assassinorum assassins are hired to off other ministers

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like they get used to do politicking

south gorge
summer mural
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imperium aint exactly run corruption free

south gorge
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And female psykers are ā€œreveredā€ (treated as glorified ovary deposits).

summer mural
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that might actually be my fav part of guillimans resurrection, because when he comes back theres a bunch of scenarios where has to deal with corruption in the imperium

south gorge
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Not only that, he is actively upset with all of the corruption.

summer mural
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like orders some naval attack strategy that the commander of some battlecruiser doesnt like, so he calls him up and goes " WHAT ABOUT MUH GLORY?"

south gorge
summer mural
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and guilliman has so many corrupt folk just offed all over terra

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iirc he gets some guy flogged through the streets

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and keeps an imperial clergyman around who keeps praising the emperor as a god and guilliman gets so annoyed with him that he threatens to kill him and the clergyman goes into euphoria at the thought of being killed by guilliman KEKW_ogryn

south gorge
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Kill a man, Guilliman sounds like something Eminem would rap

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Shortly after something about napkins.

summer mural
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" The Emperor is a God."
"No he isnt."
" You heretic, how dare you"
" He's literally my father you jackass"

sly ivy
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Then by the end said clergyman ||kind of convinces g man his dad is a god||

summer mural
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guilliman decided not to off the entire ecclesiarchy and shut it down after all

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he kinda just goes " yeah this is too far gone, the imperiums gonna shatter if I destroy dad's cult"

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hes been nice though, post resurrection

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like he hasnt been doing typical autistic primarch stuff

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from what I can tell, hes mostly been based

sly ivy
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I thought autism was the highest form of basedom

summer mural
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the black templars would agree

sly ivy
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Lmao

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Hyper fixated 4 10000 years+

summer mural
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I like the battle strategy aspects and the logistic side of 40k stuff more than the heroic zealous charging around personally

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and whatever mephiston is supposed to be

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I swear he stopped time at one point

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and decided to not use the power

south gorge
summer mural
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Hes got fulgrims clone

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thats based

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I wonder if thats been dumped forever or itl come back now that emperors children are kinda more prominent

south gorge
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My guess is the museum was so that they could dump it forever.

summer mural
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that does seem more likely

south gorge
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That’s why they’re backpedaling on the whole soul split thing.

summer mural
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since the writer of that bit aint writing 40k anymore either

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still though, id be down for fulgrim killing his clone in a duel and consuming it

south gorge
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:(. poor twogrim

vagrant fox
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clonegrim is gone and dusted

crystal forum
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i wish we knew more than the like 3 regiments mentionned

summer mural
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do they have videogames in the imperium

crystal forum
south gorge
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They're all wacky lol

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One of my favourites is the kashann riders

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lizorr

crystal forum
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although i dont think the chilliad were clones

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merely genetically selected

crystal forum
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sadly the only way to play guard in 30k is either as solar auxilia proxies or militia

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militia do have genetic engineering options which is funny

sly ivy
sly ivy
crystal forum
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what

storm jungle
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He doesnt know.

sly ivy
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Naw there’s like 8 of us the internet spreadin misinfo as always

crystal forum
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i thought it was a GTA 5 reference

storm jungle
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oh my god

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"mount chiliad"

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Jay im gonna kill you

crystal forum
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lexi really going hard on the real life definitions of this one

storm jungle
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Considering what its referencing well yeah

small grail
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i have problem

crystal forum
small grail
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Not on blender just sketching it

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So I'm blanking on what weapons I shud give him

summer mural
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give him 2 reaper chainswords

small grail
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He currently has a retractable claw and spiked ball n chain

small grail
summer mural
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missiles prob?

small grail
south gorge
summer mural
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missiles do have nice utility

south gorge
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mr go 1000 they call me

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they being my mum

small grail
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But I'm not like fully remember in how abominatus looked was he a hunched one or a upright titan

crystal forum
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or double claw

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wait do those titans even get melee weapons

celest dome
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Yes

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That's Abominatus

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Titan Close Combat Weapon (aka Titan CCW or TCCW) is the generic name given to the oversized and extremely deadly close quarters combat weapons fitted to some titan-class vehicles and Knights.[1a] Several races are known to fit such weapons to their titans, including the Imperium[1b], Eldar[2] and Orks.[1c]

crystal forum
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i know titans have melee

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but imperator sized?

celest dome
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Arioch Power Claw for Warlord sized titans for example

small grail
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?

small grail
summer mural
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emperor class titan with two power claws for weapons and nothing else is so hilarious lmao

sly ivy
crystal forum
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but damn chaos stuff is very hard to get right

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takes a lot of skill to tie it all together

sly ivy
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No it just takes lots of rope

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And entrails

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Also gusto (stored in the balls)

celest dome
celest dome
sly ivy
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I have important information to impart smdh

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Pearls before swine

small grail
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Kinda like bucky from marvel rivals

crystal forum
crisp heath
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i“m so sad

crystal forum
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why be sad

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apart from the obvious answer

crisp heath
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relationship probably ending

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i“m so down bad i“m at the point where i“m posting in a 40k lore channel about it lol

crystal forum
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it's ok this is also a frienship channel 🌈

storm jungle
sly ivy
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Ugh

storm jungle
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i had a few relationships fail, its just how it is and its entirely okay to talk to random people about it

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as long as it helps

sly ivy
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Yeah it’s like how it’s easier to tell a bunch of strangers at the bar

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Sometimes

storm jungle
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^

crisp heath
storm jungle
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oh

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šŸ’€

crystal forum
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sometimes random people give better advice than people you know

storm jungle
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also this yeah

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less judgemental for starters

crisp heath
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i looked so pretty in it.

small grail
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Idk how to show

crisp heath
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well that“s okay. i guess all i needed was not to feel completely alone with this for a moment. i“ve gotten that, then....

queen laurel
storm jungle
small grail
queen laurel
small grail
summer mural
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i had a dream a week ago about having a dreadnought officiate a wedding, so I think im never getting married yeah...

small grail
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Like a arm with multiple tentacles that shoots out

plush mason
small grail
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Man we're all kids at heart still

summer mural
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nah I just had one where the dread looked suspiciously like bjorn the fell handed and droned on wedding vows in a metallic voice

small grail
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Heheh

sly ivy
small grail
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It's always fun to have a happy imagination no matter how sad u feel

crystal forum
sly ivy
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I’m old enough to have lost friends and family to actual death and — not to diminish that — the impact is not so different in degree or kind.

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so you take your time with it and don’t punish yourself for being inefficient

crisp heath
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i wish there was a way to stay together but i“m pretty convinced that if i told you guys the whole truth, you“d all say it“s pointless.

small grail
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Ye

queen laurel
small grail
queen laurel
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if it has gotten to that point you may as well try to end it in a good note

small grail
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If u want to u can

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If it hurts then dont

sly ivy
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There are no good notes, honestly, are there? Good and bad breakups feel the same with enough time.

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It’s still the death of an entire future

sly ivy
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but there are many other futures.

storm jungle
small grail
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Worst pain is when pet goes as well

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Liek dies

queen laurel
storm jungle
sly ivy
queen laurel
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the 2 of you may as well agree that it's not gonna workout and end it civilly

storm jungle
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im sorry but those few months of happiness are not worth the entire period of sorrow im gonna experience when it does tbh

small grail
vagrant fox
crisp heath
small grail
vagrant fox
sly ivy
small grail
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Happiness will come one way or the other even if u think it isn't possible

queen laurel
queen laurel
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I love my pets but

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After a series of losing them i

small grail
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The day I lost mine I stopped eating or drinking

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It was rough

queen laurel
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Think my psyche force me to not react to it anymore

small grail
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It's been 2 years since then

dusk patrol
small grail
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I'm happy now

dusk patrol
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As boring as it is to say

small grail
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Damn....today's been rough

crisp heath
dusk patrol
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Yeah it’s best to let go if it’s not gonna work

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Than try to think marrying will make it work

small grail
dusk patrol
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It sucks, but it’s the reality, there’s not much else to say there unfortunately.

Getting over someone is always hard and there’s nothing really to fix it beyond time and hopefully finding someone else.

vagrant fox
small grail
dusk patrol
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Cliches are cliches for a reason, they’re often correct.

small grail
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Damn got depressing real quick

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Don't mind it tho

dusk patrol
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The worst part is going to be all the stuff that reminds you of them and the unconscious connections you make, and all that.

small grail
shell mason
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remember the guy that stabbed with the nurgle poop knife?

sly ivy
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@crisp heath FWIW I’ve been alive for several decades and have known people through breakups, divorces, remarriages. The vast majority, including the really weird/autistic/etc people have ended up in something good. Like basically everyone who isn’t a potential psychopath

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And they aren’t ā€œsettling.ā€ Actually everyone I knew who did that ended it and got into something better.

rose thorn
sly ivy
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A good portion of a lifetime

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Gonna go see a daemon just for the free mind wiping afterward

sly ivy
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But instead of a warp god I’m still a stupid asshole

dapper gyro
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I got some similar issue last year, that was my reason to reinstall Darktide, lol.

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Then started looking for group for penance, then started chating more and ended up rambling about Wh40k shenanigans here.

sly ivy
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Many such cases

crisp heath
raven stone
crisp heath
raven stone
# crisp heath i wish there was a way to stay together but i“m pretty convinced that if i told ...

Not sure how bad things were, but…the pain of a wrongly matched wedding is probably far bigger than the pain right now. It is hard to feel it in the bones - indeed, there are times I have had to convince myself (35 years single streak) that a wrong wedding is worse than being single - but ultimately…if it wasn’t going to work out, better for the pain to hit early than later, when the magnitude (and divorce) would make it much, much worse.

crystal forum
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a house built on an unstable foundation can only become worse over time

drifting cloud
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I wrote a thing that I'm proud of.

a ritual of becoming for a homebrew knight house that I'm making; and I wanna know if people think this is accurate-ish to the lore.

small grail
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For honor pfp expected

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Alright I've settled for a extra arm with tentacles

drifting cloud
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part one of IDK.

The chamber of echoes fills with hushed whispers as the entire Markov family slowly files in to watch over Uriel as he undergoes the ritual of becoming. Almir sits among his brothers in the upper portions of the chamber, looking down below onto the platform in front of the frehly refurbished vault that houses Hunter's Echo. The ancient throne mechanicum of the old knight being fitted with new circutry, and soaked with sacred oils and wrapped in blessed scrolls of holy binary scripture. The throne itself isn't much of a throne, but more of a harness or operating table; with places to fit your arms and legs to strap into it, and a helmet with all manner of wires coming out the back of it, connecting it to everything else.

Soon all becomes quiet as the lord sacristan steps up to his podium and the tech priests begin to gather and begin their binary droning. Galen Markov checks his timepiece, midnight strikes it's tone, signalling the beginning of the ceremony. Braziers filled with scented oils are lit, as the chamber fills with smoke and incense.

"Bring forth the aspirant." the lord sacristian drones.

Uriel steps out from his ready room; clad in a custom suit of armor. Synthetic muscles and false nerves, within a skin-tight bodysuit; protected by thin plates of adamantine, with a plasteel coating to prevent oxidation. Sleek and elegant; Uriel steps forward into the light.

"With humility, we ignite the reactor; awakening the knight's spirit." The lord sacristan proclaims, as sparks and fire ignites within the kinght; as Hunter's Echo begins to surge with life once again, the eyes of the ancient Cerastus pattern knight glowing an eerie red.

"Awaken, Oh great machine, and pump thine blood of fire!"

small grail
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Thr tentacles are like leeches tho

small grail
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Seems a lot like fantasy

drifting cloud
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40k imperial knights

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read carefully and you'll see many references to things like "throne mechanicum" "Omnissiah" "machine spirit" ect

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part 2 of scene

"Surge, machina maxim." The other priests chant as they begin to slowly sway their bodies like a pendulum.

"Awaken, avenging angel, oh great Hunter's Echo; and tke up arms!"

"Surge, machina maxim."

"Awaken, oh graviton lance and holy lascutter; sacred are these armaments to the Omnissiah to devastate the foe. Awaken, oh ion shield; and bear your bastion of holy light. Awaken, throne mechanicum; the time for war has come!" the lord sacristan shouts as Hunter's Echo bring's it's weapons systems online; the graviton lance crackles and pulses with energy, while the lascutter hisses and raditates with heat and a red glow. The ion sheild sparks to life and a shimmer of energy can be seen surrounding the knight.

"Surge, machina maxim." The tech priests continue to chant and sway

"With reverence, we lead our sons to rest upon the seat of power; knowing the sacred machine will protect us."

Uriel is guided towards the knight as it turns around and opens it's back compartment, awaiting it's throne mechanicum. The harness opens and the helmet is drawn up as Uriel shakily settles into a sitting postion. The clamps sinch down on his wrists with a click, as his hands fit themselves into the gauntlets; the boots lock into place, as tech priests finish strapping Uriel into the throne mechanicum.

"With pride, we crown the aspirant with holy circutry; anointing them to be a pilot. With grace, we bow to the will of the Omnissiah; knowing it is in his grace, they will be guided. Blessed be to the great machine...the Emperor Protects." The lord sacrstan finishes and steps back into shadow.

The masked helmet crackles with energy, as neural nodes that line the inside of it prime themselves. Uriel takes deep, shaking breaths as his body floods with adrenaline; knowing the pain of previous simulated rituals. But this is the real thing, and he must endure it. The helmet lowers itself and clamps down onto Uriel's head as the crackling of the energy from the knight's machine spirit can be heard, mixing with Uriel's shrill screams and shivvering howls of pain.

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@crisp heath you have some irl friends / family to hang out with today / these days?

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Who live nearbyish

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I have not been in a book store

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In 5 years

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So I am snagging this

storm jungle
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Not the worst choice

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I’m just grabbing all the stuff I can tbh

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Got this at 3 separate hobby stores

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One of which has a 15% discount on all games workshop stuff

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Heading back there in a moment

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Like smallest 40k book I’ve seen

storm jungle
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Yeah its a fine read

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i said it before but it has great material for like

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Cypher being cool

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Dark Angels being absolute hilarious morons

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A ton of Imperial Palace lower-level exploration

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otherwise its mid but a generally "ok" read

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And ik it starts with the ||DA just up and killing their own serfs||

storm jungle
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And it spirals from there

spare osprey
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Fantastic

storm jungle
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i wont spoil much but the AMOUNT of effort they go through to disguise their incursion is so funny

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and they are so stoic about it which is even better

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Great

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I’ve heard it has a like

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Mix of chaos and loyal and renegade fallen in cyphers group

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Even if he’s an ā€œunreliable narratorā€

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So I’m looking forward to that

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so what's cypher's deal

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is it the sort of thing we'll never be told

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his name is mega cringe

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Before Cypher himself it was a title

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The order on caliban had the ā€œLord Cypherā€

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Who was basically their religious leader, gave up their identity to serve their brothers and sisters

storm jungle
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oh please do spoil

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i will never read a dark angel book

storm jungle
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He literally just gathers a group of nutjob Fallen to go through the lower levels of the Palace and its just the entire journey

storm jungle
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and has a edgelord cloak/hood

crystal forum
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i dig the dark angel aesthetics but god damn their lore is boring

spare osprey
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30k is far better imo

storm jungle
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it very much is a fact yeah

storm jungle
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celest dome
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I love the fallen so much

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And their vibes

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Double cringe

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There’s a series of artworks

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Of just random fallen

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With all a bunch of different vibes

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My favorite thing ever

crystal forum
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so to understand this clearly, what the fuck do fallen do again?

storm jungle
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uh

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literally just chaos astartes

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they are suppose to be "renegades"

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but since 40k has no nuance they are always working for chaos

crystal forum
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so why are they treated differently

storm jungle
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because they are the "shame" of the Chapter

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Silence can prob explain it better

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they are a nice idea that falls flat largely due to the narrative weakness of 40k to a degree

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No yeah that’s pretty much it

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And they’re usually treated as a bit stronger?

crystal forum
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are they night lords type of renegade

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Like you’ll see a fallen leading a warband much rather than just be a random member of one

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Most of their stories is about a single fallen taking over like an entire planet

crystal forum
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what the hell

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They’re very charismatic

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lol

crystal forum
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so each fallen is just strong due to plot reasons

spare osprey
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Mhm

crystal forum
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and they all date to the heresy

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Cause they have no idea what else to do with them

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So if they’re considered fallen is a whole discussion

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Most are chaos for some reason, even if that’s not how they were written during the heresy

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Like they were very much independent, their whole thing was caliban succession

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They just used Horus’ rebellion as their opportunity

crystal forum
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so did they not like the emperor

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Then Zahariel got a worm talking to him, Luther got turned into chaos’ champion after Horus died

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Just up and lying lol

crystal forum
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wait luther became a fucking chaos champion?

storm jungle
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He’s called the Arch Betrayer I think?

crystal forum
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what the hell did that guy do to deserve becoming a champion

spare osprey
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Read books lol

crystal forum
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i know what he did

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crystal forum
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oh so that's why

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chaos just wanted him to kill the lion

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Mhm

crystal forum
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which chaos is he a champion of

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Which he refused to do

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crystal forum
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ah

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Now he’s just insane

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They hated his ass, like he had 2 separate epiphanies

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So the chaos gods got so mad they blew up the planet

crystal forum
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must be nice being hated by literally everyone in 40k

crystal forum
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Nope

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They threw a warp storm at it

crystal forum
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they can just do that

spare osprey
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Mhm

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Caliban was by a warp tear too

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It’s why they had great beasts

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And why the trees themselves hated humanity

crystal forum
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i was going to mention cadia but i just remembered the pylons B_DogCheemsSmile

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i guess caliban should have had necron L bozo

dusk patrol
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With the Lion back and the Risen we see more of a mix

spare osprey
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There’s only been that one daemon prince tbf

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Marbas

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Who I hope we see soon

crystal forum
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awww so lion could have fought a demon prince dark angel instead of angron

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that would have been nice

dusk patrol
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Theres others implied or mentioned too but regardless, a lot of weaker ones are found quicker by the DA so a lot get forced to turn to chaos or go into hiding immediately.

spare osprey
# crystal forum so did they not like the emperor

Also on this, many of the older calibanites hated the emperor. He kinda just came in and destroyed and strip mined their planet, they felt obsolete. The younger ones were just too loyal to caliban itself, they swore their oaths to Luther and the order, not the emperor and the imperium

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With how the Caliban thing worked they go thrown through time so when they pop up is fairly random, with some veterans show up to see novices now older than them and all that.

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The younger fallen didn't really know what was going on largely when the Lion attacked the planet.

spare osprey
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The Lion is named after famous homosexual poet Lion El Johnson who wrote a poem about blowing dudes called "dark angel"

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glad I could help

crystal forum
dusk patrol
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It was because the Lion allowed it

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And the lion just didn’t care

dusk patrol
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Its Luthers big gripe with him among other things.

crystal forum
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i thought dark angels were the first to be found

dusk patrol
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No

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Nope

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Horus

dusk patrol
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He was quite late.

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Dark angels were the first legion

viral halo
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The Lion is also the coldest motherfucker in the heresy

crystal forum
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why are they the first then

viral halo
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dude has no empathy

spare osprey
viral halo
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just destroys things

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Cause he's "pragmatic"

crystal forum
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right

dusk patrol
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Also the numbers of the legions aren't really important.

spare osprey
viral halo
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And then soyjacks and points when nobody listens to him anymore

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They did have a homeworld before caliban tho

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Grammarye

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And they had 2 legion masters, both got nuked

crystal forum
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lol

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The legion almost died a couple times before Lion was found

storm jungle
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dusk patrol
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Some wild fights

crystal forum
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was it before or after they found the lion that proto dark angels were using crazy tech like men of iron

storm jungle
winter vessel
storm jungle
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like i forgot which I THINK it was Barbarus where they literally go to the surface

spare osprey
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That one Cthonia anthology ends with them just blowing up the planet

storm jungle
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deploy some earthquake nukes

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and just leave

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like bruh

viral halo
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Barbarus was much less personal, they bombed it from orbit

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Till it cracked

dusk patrol
dusk patrol
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46

viral halo
dusk patrol
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46 years, so not too bad

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# spare osprey Till it cracked

And there was a moment where when it happened, the fleet master literally clapped and laughed and had spit running down his chin

storm jungle
storm jungle
dusk patrol
storm jungle
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Well "all"

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Eventually most of the legion was from it

winter vessel
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viral halo
dusk patrol
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They were attached, Curze was also just insane.

spare osprey
winter vessel
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Barbarus is pretty much the same...stinky

dusk patrol
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Nostramo's destruction wasn't exactly something the legion was happy about.

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viral halo
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I have a poster of Freddy Mercury in the room of my childhood home

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same thing

crystal forum
dusk patrol
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Its still their home.

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It was like that for most of them when they grew up

winter vessel
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"its a shithole...But its OUR shithole"

viral halo
winter vessel
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people in Birmingham

crystal forum
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so which legion had the least connection to their homeworld

spare osprey
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Such insane shit

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It’s crazy

viral halo
dusk patrol
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They recruited from a lot of different places

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Bodt was sorta one.

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But they didn't have one real home world

winter vessel
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oh yeah Nuceria. Angron went back there and went full John Henry on their asses with his two chainaxes

spare osprey
crystal forum
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what about alpha legion

dusk patrol
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Them also

viral halo
crystal forum
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same

dusk patrol
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No real homeworld

spare osprey
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They just kinda showed up tbh. I’m not sure they had one

viral halo
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I had to read Legion by Dan Abnett twice to figure out what was going on

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and I'm a pretty swift guy usually

dusk patrol
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I question the literacy of the 40k community when Legion is a complicated book to some of your mfers.

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Dude I’ve read a single AL story, and alpharius was pretending to be a marine the entire time

winter vessel
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the Imperial Fists pretty much live in a mobile home, the Phalanx

dusk patrol
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They have Inwit

crystal forum
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nitwit

winter vessel
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planet "nitwit"

dusk patrol
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It doesn't get much focus but its still their homeworld and they recruited from it a lot and still do.

winter vessel
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it sounds funny when you say it out loud

dusk patrol
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Its Inuit but spelled different cause sci fi

crystal forum
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and it has nothing to do with the inuit culture

dusk patrol
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It does

crystal forum
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i think it's cold and that's it

dusk patrol
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Its got similar tribes, some germanic some more classic Inuit style. We don't see a lot but there is some.

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I was hoping Rogal Dorns book would go into his time there more but

crystal forum
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it's germanic

dusk patrol
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God forbid the primarch books focus on what we want.

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Yes I'd love to hear about the conquest of some world you made up author

crystal forum
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they have to skip the boring stuff and get to the melodramatic horus heresy story

dusk patrol
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How fascinating.

crystal forum
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dont you enjoy large muscly men shooting eachother

dusk patrol
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Then about Guilliman's did that and the author was trash so

storm jungle
dusk patrol
storm jungle
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most primarch books are trash

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like universally agreed as so

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so its not exactly wrong

dusk patrol
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Its about 50/50 but yeah a lot suck because as I said

crystal forum
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what's horus's book

spare osprey
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Ong wait

dusk patrol
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Not out yet

crystal forum
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really?

dusk patrol
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I think its been teased but no release.

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He's the last one.

crystal forum
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like a fully horus backstory book?

spare osprey
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@storm jungle I remembered something about the DA and their planet blowing up-ness

dusk patrol
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Probably not

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But maybe

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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The best primarch books tend to be the ones which focus on their upbringing.

spare osprey
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For no reason

storm jungle
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LMAO

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Okay thats great

dusk patrol
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They were already being petty.

storm jungle
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thats some shit id do tbh

winter vessel
dusk patrol
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I mean they're already there

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Might as well

spare osprey
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Yeah like angron could ā€œsense itā€ during the siege I think

dusk patrol
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We're told they blew up most of them too

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The Ultramarines destroyed Colchis

spare osprey
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Mhm. Chemos, Barbarus, Nuceria, cthonia

dusk patrol
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Night Lords destroyed their own, the rest was largely DA.

spare osprey
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And DA also destroyed a couple forge worlds

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Loyalist included

crystal forum
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wait.. isn't there a whole HH campaign focused on the final battle of horus's home world

spare osprey
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Mhm

dusk patrol
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It takes place during the Siege

spare osprey
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It ends with them blowing it up

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lol

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Actually I say blow up

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That’s very

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Putting it lightly

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They throw it into the warp

crystal forum
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i feel like that campaign exists solely because it's the closest we'll ever get to a siege of terra campaign

dusk patrol
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They're gonna do a SoT campaign

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They're just leading up to it

crystal forum
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that's going to be insane

storm jungle
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its not

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because no Bligh

dusk patrol
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They're doing other stuff first.

storm jungle
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šŸ˜”

spare osprey
dusk patrol
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There's a War in the Webway campaign book rumored.

viral halo
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The siege of Cwokia

crystal forum
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siege of terra campaign with fully documented imperial palace

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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Yeah they can do SoT for

viral halo
dusk patrol
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A long long time

crystal forum
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im feeling the soy hype

winter vessel
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I wish they placed some focus on the Unification Wars, do a bit of variety with kitbashing models and human factions.

spare osprey
dusk patrol
dusk patrol
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Also the Emperor model has been leaked as existing for awhile but not released yet.

spare osprey
crystal forum
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i'd love early great crusade stuff

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but no primarchs so no money for GW

dusk patrol
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They'll probably do Heresy Custodes 2.0 and the Emperor model.

viral halo
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Emperor model would sell like crack but I feel like it reduces the mystique

spare osprey
dusk patrol
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It exists to sell for painters, no ones ever gonna play it

viral halo
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New Grey knights in 2025 at least

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hyped about that

dusk patrol
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He'll be absurdly expensive like Horus Ascendant.

crystal forum
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they did a horus ascended model so it's only a matter of time

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Soyjacking rn

storm jungle
opaque coyote
storm jungle
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every unification entry is just

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"The Emperors Genechad-Alchemo armies fought the evil Gore-Gholem-Wight-Witches of Pan-Afrikanos-Mongolians"

viral halo
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I found my Horus the Warmaster primarch model in a ziplock bag in my drawer

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I had completely forgotten it

dusk patrol
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Horus Ascendant games don't really exist

crystal forum
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and you better believe they'll hype the emperor model for months

dusk patrol
#

He technically has rules but

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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your mom

opaque coyote
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And it just read

opaque coyote
spare osprey
dusk patrol
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Also an Istvaan III campaign book, and box eventually here.

spare osprey
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And I’ll believe it

viral halo
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watched the inauguration today, Bezos's head reminds me of a gretchin

dusk patrol
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And after the siege they can do the Scouring even.

crystal forum
dusk patrol
crystal forum
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what would an istvan III campaign even be

winter vessel
dusk patrol
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Istvaan III

crystal forum
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it would have to be epic scale

dusk patrol
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It would be that.

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Not Istvaan V

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They already did that

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And might do it again

crystal forum
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oh

dusk patrol
#

Istvaan III was the traitors purging their ranks

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And yeah they already did Istvaan V

crystal forum
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i guess istvan III could happen as a loyalists defending vs attacking chaos

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when are loyalists ever not the defenders man

storm jungle
#

what happened to ıstvaan I and Istvaan II

dusk patrol
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Thats where this stuff comes from.

storm jungle
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or Istvaan IV

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did we miss a few sequels

crystal forum
storm jungle
dusk patrol
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Also, bodt.

winter vessel
viral halo
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I wish Mk X armor was cool

storm jungle
arctic talon
dusk patrol
storm jungle
#

while the loyalists are like "heroes" essentially

arctic talon
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Or like

crystal forum
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hello heresy

arctic talon
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40k

storm jungle
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LOL

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got his ass

viral halo
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@storm jungle Took a laxative today

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Just thought you'd want to know that

dusk patrol
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Theres not a lack of loyalist attacking in the heresy its just the more famous events are traitors attacking the loyalist worlds in surprise or the major bulwarks to get to Terra

winter vessel
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World Eaters on Istvaan III were just lost children at that point after the bombings

arctic talon
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Cthonia was loyalists attacking a Traitor world

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and then occupying it

storm jungle
#

to be fair

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cthonia is pretty boring

arctic talon
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LOL

crystal forum
storm jungle
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"ohhh it has barbarian gangs!"

arctic talon
#

It is the worst recent campaign book

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you're not wrong

storm jungle
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"oooh its industrial"

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fucking blow up

storm jungle
#

also like yeah

dusk patrol
#

?

storm jungle
#

reading it made me depressed

crystal forum
#

the world eaters on istvan III were like aight i guess we're killing space marines now

dusk patrol
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You didn't wanna be rude?

storm jungle
#

i legit miss Bligh so much

dusk patrol
storm jungle
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you little tincan shitheel son of a-

dusk patrol
#

Uh huh

dusk patrol
#

Sure jan

storm jungle
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Eternal i hope you know you're the entire reason i hate iron hands as a faction

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well more like "be glad" i guess idk

dusk patrol
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Doubt

storm jungle
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Theres a reason they are in my tier of:

storm jungle
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"cool camo"

dusk patrol
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Me looking for Dilara's filter

crystal forum
#

iron hands dont care about being liked

storm jungle
#

good

dusk patrol
#

If I was concerned about other peoples opinions I wouldn't be an IH fan.

storm jungle
#

getting mad at another ferrus joke

winter vessel
storm jungle
storm jungle
dusk patrol
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I can both not care about people's opinions and call out overused already old jokes at the same time.

storm jungle
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Then why do you say "i dont care"

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then instantly care

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pick a lane you bastard

winter vessel
dusk patrol
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You rn^

storm jungle
#

I thought it was because of the geneseed

winter vessel
#

the balls

storm jungle
#

that too

dusk patrol
#

Thats where the heresy is stored

storm jungle
#

Anyway

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why are you arguing with me again

humble shoal
#

This is my essay on why tyberos is da strongest cuz he d biggest and he is a girl

storm jungle
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i was like half paying attention

#

remind me the thing

dusk patrol
#

I don't think we were

arctic talon
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if Tyberos is a girl then I've got some questions for the audiobook narrator

storm jungle
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Die

dusk patrol
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No one said hes a pretty girl

arctic talon
#

not arguing

dusk patrol
#

Or she I guess

storm jungle
#

im watching EVA on the side

crystal forum
#

can you imagine an entire space marine book audiobook read by a woman

storm jungle
#

(it sucks)

winter vessel
arctic talon
dusk patrol
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I already have to listen to women too much.

spare osprey
dusk patrol
#

Ok but in seriousness, the LoV book narrator

#

She fucking sucked

storm jungle
#

Im not gonna be surprised if she gets replaced

spare osprey
#

Votaan?

dusk patrol
#

She better or find out a way to not sound like shit.

arctic talon
spare osprey
storm jungle
storm jungle
dusk patrol
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There's no way they can't find one other woman in inglin with a slightly nicer voice.

arctic talon
#

yeah the new LoV book narrator is

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unfortunate lol

spare osprey
#

Their book came out?

arctic talon
#

yeah

#

its not terrible

dusk patrol
spare osprey
#

Jesus

arctic talon
#

its got worldbuilding in it

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Its a real book

storm jungle
#

yeah uh

#

its "got" stuff alright

#

and its definitely uhhh

#

a "book"

#

i guess

dusk patrol
#

They made them less "your factions thing but betteR"

#

Which I liked

storm jungle
#

I wish they kept that

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i like people complaining about it

#

):

storm jungle
#

anyway book bad

spare osprey
#

I like their revolvers

storm jungle
#

you mean uh

spare osprey
crystal forum
#

space revolver

storm jungle
#

boltvolvers?

crystal forum
#

rebolver

dusk patrol
#

It'd give it 3.6 roentgen

storm jungle
spare osprey
#

Rolter

crystal forum
storm jungle
#

its not

#

trust me

#

go into the reactor Jay

dusk patrol
spare osprey
#

I am stealing stuff from the ghostbusters though

arctic talon
# dusk patrol Damn son

the commonality between the female and male protaganist of persona 3 is they can both be massive assholes constantly and generally be depressing kekw

crystal forum
#

my doctor told me to avoid gamma ray sources in my diet

dusk patrol
#

Your doctor sounds like a pussy

winter vessel
#

When grandma wants to give you a big kiss on the cheek and she's shorter than you: