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they dont do a lot of elemental stuff except fire do they
You want to make sense of that even though there are literal skeleton aliens here that have swords that vibrate through dimensions to cut stuff?
well i guess those space wolves not-psykers call down ice storms
yknow their shamans that arent librarians
I want to make sense of that too.
How does this guy have the capacity to yap this long for like 10 f****** guns
I respect the commitment but god damn
make sense of how every callidus assassin uses full blown necron phase swords
"These witches are a pox on the Imperium and a perversion of the All-Father's vision. ||Now, Rune Priest, smite our enemies with Wolf Lightning!"||
at least hes not the australian dude that reads 10 lines from the wiki and then talks about his warhammer porn patreon for 10 minutes
I hate em both
majorkills favourite legion is the dark angels so
We are equal haters here
Wow you're going to offend silence buddy slow down
i love offending 40k fans, thats why im here
MajorKill more like Major fucking bore am I right
at least he has a life sized custodian spear in his garage somewhere
hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahaha
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anyone else think calgar looks a lil small in size in sm2
like hes great and all, but when I saw him I was like " yeahhh...you didnt kill an avatar of khaine by yourself"
He looks like joy toy made him
a lucky grot can kill an avatar of khaine by themselves
oh wait-
so cain is next going to kill an avatar of..khaine
I could've sworn he already had
Is he supposed to be really big?
Khaine is literally the plot device to prove my character is awesome
Nothing more nothing else really
Choked one to death iirc
not that I know of, but I assume chapter masters yknow, put on some weight and look majestic or whatever
Old Calgar art made him look pretty hefty, but he's not really much larger than your average marine
Sometimes i wonder why gw let these things through, how can you suffocate a construct of war
Which is unfortunate because the concept of the Avatar is insanely cool but it never gets used for anything interesting
Yep it is and like
calgar art is kinda nuts yes
The ways it has died sometimes are incredibly dumb
Because GW suck and doesn't care
he looks bigger than a custodian in most of his art
Yep what can we do we can only go back to it
Well that obviously makes no sense
indeed
Yeah honestly if anything he isn't really famed for his size right


He's more like your generic average good leader guy type beat
well hes also known for being kinda insane compared to average marine in combat, because the writers really wanted him to be i dunno
godlike?
no clue what they were going for
That's just par for the course with a cool chapter master. You put him in a suit of unique armor with unique artificer weapons and then make him very killy and voila
I mean he has pretty cool weapons but i wouldn't put him as like a known for combat
^
unless it's the Imperial Fists chapter master
I think he's very intimidating
really? calgar? hes got a stacked resume in personal combat even for a cm
Daimo looking ass-pose
Imperial fists chapter master die every 3 editions
Calgar also has had his ass beat many times
that is true
Itās tradition
hes been near death a lot
Who?
Who?
m something
Heās gona die next edition
Chip Fistzard?
Sure letās go with that
He was the guy that got mangled by the swarmlord right
yes
Who care about his name, he'll be dead before the end of the week
Yep
yes, and Abaddon and something else
Lysander will surely replace him this time
copium

Yeah that was pretty funny i will say
lysander is pretty much the only choice though
I've got better chance at my 'Lysander will become a Hanger On for Necromunda' than this 
they will create another generic cm before promoting lysander ig
hes got nice stories as a captain
he's on some special assignment isn't he
i think guilliman can just rewrite the codex to elevate cato tbh
Heās the leader of the vitrix guard
Heās also got unresolved Ultraptsd
Not a good thing for a chapter master
oh right
His hobbies rn are literally staring into the void
that other guy aint good either, a something
I think itās the first one?
theres also the guy, ventris
last time I remember ventris was committing mass warcrimes against nids via poison
who's the captain of the first company
Agemon
a something
Or whatever
Agamon?
Agemman
The dude from Troy ?
severus agemman iirc

no thats agamemnon
oh yeah the Leviathan Terminator captain is a stand in for him
#sharrowkynforCM
apparently living in ultramar aint that bad
apart from the..invasions of bugs
but like, in terms of governance
the ultramarines talk to regular folk and encourage painting and shit
and afaik their cities arent giant hivecity slums
they have pavilions and fountains and things
the remembered empire....
Or they just never replace Calgar ever
well
he does have an easier life now that guilliman is officially in charge id assume
i really hope they write something with the lion and guilliman interacting again
Who are the missing ones rn ?
Russ, Dorn, Corax, Jagathai, Vulkan for loyalist
Perturabo, religious dude, Omegon for Chaos
I know people say sanguinius is dead but come on
He's a vampire inspired thing that's "dead" in his sarcophagus, of course he's gonna rise
Sanguinus is represented by the Sanguinor and that dude who wish for death but never get it
Just like in nosferatu
Dante is gonna die in sanguinius' arms when he returns and takes over. It's too beautiful and fitting an image to not have it that way.
And there will be on his cheek
But a single tear
With his golden hair waving in the wind
i want sangui and vulkan back so bad
imagine sangui coming back but with full metal wings š
Sanguinius returning would be a second legion book for me
Fun fact! This is the most expensive terrain piece in AOS, you can place one with a spell but if you have the named gardener character you have to have up to 3 of them
In total itās 200 dollars
210*
Aye it's my man Horticulous Slimux
Also what the hell does the tree do
It has a really good melee attack and makes people diseased
And you can place it anywhere on the board basically
Does it move
aren't deployment abilities army rules, not unit rules
or do you mean an early deployment movement phase like the night runners for skaven
So what
It's just a terrain you plop down somewhere and it spreads disease and kills anything near it
isnt there a whole thing about sanguinius's soul being split in half
between the crazy op blood angels librarian whose name I forget and dante
so maybe in the 40k end times or something theyl unite his soul somehow
because dante dying would not surprise me
and then the blood angels be like " oh hes finally achieved death like he wanted? GOOD NOW DRAG HIS ASS INTO THAT DREADNOUGHT "
Ah mr double black rage himself, Mephiston.
The merriest of Sues.
yeah how has that dude not exploded into warp dust by now
he flies around with psyker wings and does warp storm spells
Donāt the blood angels also have a full on librarian dreadnought?
dunno, but librarian dreadnought is acceptable
mephiston doesnt even lose it when hes black raging
he just does more spells and smashes heretics
Heād just resurrect himself 
is there an amazing psyker in the imperium thats not a space marine
the big e doesnt count
or inquisitors
because it seems non augmented psykers get chained up and unleashed like weapons, but librarians have a nice amount of freedom and independance
like they can just do whatever a regular marine does but nobody has them caged up or restricted
Does the Sigilite count?
I mean he can unfold the brain wrinkles on a primarch
Some sanctioned psykers
Oooh uh
Primaris
sigilite is like, half the founder of the imperium
Just statistically you would expect that the most powerful psykers in the imperium are not space marines.
Though as we know the most most powerful ones are generally insane
there isnt a temple for psyker assassins either, which is interesting
culexus are the opposite
but youd think the imperium would be like psyker assassins is doable considering how far they go to create the other assassin types
i guess all the best psyker candidates literally get sent to grey knights and die or become grey knights
Well except eg for ones too old already or you know
Women
oh thats right
Which is also weird that they would foster more null assassins considering the only assassin to ever get close to āassassinatingā the emperor was like a super null.
women
Always the problem
nulls are super rare, rarer than psykers
so I can see how they literally just cant find enough nulls
Stable super powerful psykers among mortals if discovered early enough I think would get channeled selectively into the progenium to train for inquisition if their iqs are high enough
Since thatās the highest value mortal organization
yeah inquisiton has some nasty psykers, who have total freedom to use their abilities of course
which you know, does make sense
but sanctioned regular militarum attached psykers have it pretty bad
But yeah Iām blanking on non rt non inquisition psykers that arenāt just glorified attack dogs
so like any non marine or inquisitor psyker is basically an attack dog, like you said
And then others who are maybe less skilled would be battle psykers
Oh wait that one clone guardsman regiment that respects psykers.
There are also astropaths
Honestly like this is total speculation but it would not be surprising if various powerful imperial organizations quietly kept psyker operatives and advisors since theyāre so useful
The ministorum etc
They would just not advertise it
Try to skirt regulations
There may well be a fair number of donāt ask donāt tell psykers around
Given the distributed autonomy and decentralization of the imperial bureaucracy
yeah, plus I mean
assassinorum assassins are hired to off other ministers
like they get used to do politicking
The Geno Five-Two Chiliad was a regiment of the Imperial Army raised on Terra, one of the Old Hundred, those Terran military formations that the Emperor allowed to continue past Unification and on into the Great Crusade.[1c]
imperium aint exactly run corruption free
And female psykers are āreveredā (treated as glorified ovary deposits).
that might actually be my fav part of guillimans resurrection, because when he comes back theres a bunch of scenarios where has to deal with corruption in the imperium
Not only that, he is actively upset with all of the corruption.
like orders some naval attack strategy that the commander of some battlecruiser doesnt like, so he calls him up and goes " WHAT ABOUT MUH GLORY?"
Bro was not paying attention 
and guilliman has so many corrupt folk just offed all over terra

iirc he gets some guy flogged through the streets
and keeps an imperial clergyman around who keeps praising the emperor as a god and guilliman gets so annoyed with him that he threatens to kill him and the clergyman goes into euphoria at the thought of being killed by guilliman 
Kill a man, Guilliman sounds like something Eminem would rap
Shortly after something about napkins.
" The Emperor is a God."
"No he isnt."
" You heretic, how dare you"
" He's literally my father you jackass"
Then by the end said clergyman ||kind of convinces g man his dad is a god||
guilliman decided not to off the entire ecclesiarchy and shut it down after all
he kinda just goes " yeah this is too far gone, the imperiums gonna shatter if I destroy dad's cult"
hes been nice though, post resurrection
like he hasnt been doing typical autistic primarch stuff
from what I can tell, hes mostly been based
I thought autism was the highest form of basedom
the black templars would agree
I like the battle strategy aspects and the logistic side of 40k stuff more than the heroic zealous charging around personally
and whatever mephiston is supposed to be
I swear he stopped time at one point
and decided to not use the power
Some suspect that the only reason Trazyn is as based as he is because the one facet of his Necron personality he kept was autism. Some being me.
Hes got fulgrims clone
thats based
I wonder if thats been dumped forever or itl come back now that emperors children are kinda more prominent
My guess is the museum was so that they could dump it forever.
that does seem more likely
Thatās why theyāre backpedaling on the whole soul split thing.
since the writer of that bit aint writing 40k anymore either
still though, id be down for fulgrim killing his clone in a duel and consuming it
:(. poor twogrim
clonegrim is gone and dusted
the what?
oh shit the old hundred, rare to see them mentionned
i wish we knew more than the like 3 regiments mentionned
do they have videogames in the imperium
old hundred regiments tend to be wacky
very cool
sadly the only way to play guard in 30k is either as solar auxilia proxies or militia
militia do have genetic engineering options which is funny
The chiliad is what they call me n my bros and damn right weāre genetically selected
what
He doesnt know.

Naw thereās like 8 of us the internet spreadin misinfo as always
i thought it was a GTA 5 reference
lexi really going hard on the real life definitions of this one
Considering what its referencing well yeah
i have problem
speak
I am currently working on my abominatus 3d model the one I've spoken about before
Not on blender just sketching it
So I'm blanking on what weapons I shud give him
give him 2 reaper chainswords
He currently has a retractable claw and spiked ball n chain
It's gonna be a hunched one so I'm lost on the weapons on his back
missiles prob?
Maybe
ima chill lad
missiles do have nice utility
But I'm not like fully remember in how abominatus looked was he a hunched one or a upright titan
plasma and claw
or double claw
wait do those titans even get melee weapons
Yes
That's Abominatus
This is the whole list https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Titan_close_combat_weapon
Titan Close Combat Weapon (aka Titan CCW or TCCW) is the generic name given to the oversized and extremely deadly close quarters combat weapons fitted to some titan-class vehicles and Knights.[1a] Several races are known to fit such weapons to their titans, including the Imperium[1b], Eldar[2] and Orks.[1c]
Arioch Power Claw for Warlord sized titans for example
My version has a retractable claw and spiked ball and chain
emperor class titan with two power claws for weapons and nothing else is so hilarious lmao
Thatās what they call me when I forget 2 shave my back hair
you could give it a bunch of different weapons like in the art
but damn chaos stuff is very hard to get right
takes a lot of skill to tie it all together
Yes. Think so
Please do not ping me for such things
Since he's upright I thought of giving him like spiked tentacles
Kinda like bucky from marvel rivals
wdym
i“m so sad
relationship probably ending
i“m so down bad i“m at the point where i“m posting in a 40k lore channel about it lol
it's ok this is also a frienship channel š
You'll be down bad and barely care in a few weeks
i had a few relationships fail, its just how it is and its entirely okay to talk to random people about it
as long as it helps
^
idk man, what am i gonna do with my wedding dress now
sometimes random people give better advice than people you know
i looked so pretty in it.
well that“s okay. i guess all i needed was not to feel completely alone with this for a moment. i“ve gotten that, then....
well this went from relatively tame too well now that's just sad
It might not help but its probably better it happened now than just... you know, literally post-marriage š
Rough hope u get through it
too much gooning :P
You know what they say better end things quickly before it ends badly
No no I wanna make it a part of my Abominatus model
i had a dream a week ago about having a dreadnought officiate a wedding, so I think im never getting married yeah...
Like a arm with multiple tentacles that shoots out
im near completely delirious due to lack of sleep so dont mind me lol
That's fun...I had one with a bunch of salamanders and vulkan was the priest
Man we're all kids at heart still
nah I just had one where the dread looked suspiciously like bjorn the fell handed and droned on wedding vows in a metallic voice
Heheh
Itās one of the worst things. Itās like a little death, every time.
It's always fun to have a happy imagination no matter how sad u feel
you'll still look pretty :)
Iām old enough to have lost friends and family to actual death and ā not to diminish that ā the impact is not so different in degree or kind.
so you take your time with it and donāt punish yourself for being inefficient
i wish there was a way to stay together but i“m pretty convinced that if i told you guys the whole truth, you“d all say it“s pointless.
Ye
well if you think that then you have your answer already
It's upto u u dint need to tell us
if it has gotten to that point you may as well try to end it in a good note
There are no good notes, honestly, are there? Good and bad breakups feel the same with enough time.
Itās still the death of an entire future
Yea
but there are many other futures.
I rarely had like 1 breakup where we were extremely mature and went "Hey this isnt working wanna go back to being friends?" - "Yeah honestly I agree" lol
well, sometimes it's better when it hurts less when you end them
Entire reason im never gonna get a pet
Thatās something of which to be aware but itās not something with which to bludgeon yourself bc youāre not back on your feet right away.
the 2 of you may as well agree that it's not gonna workout and end it civilly
im sorry but those few months of happiness are not worth the entire period of sorrow im gonna experience when it does tbh
I did and I lost it
I got close once, then I fucked up 
i know this sounds like something everybody says but i don“t think i have many possibilities otherwise. i could prove it with empirical science
Was a puppy I tried to bring it away from the street but it still ran and car came and well that was it
Honestly, my cat died recently after 18 years and it wasn't that sad. She had a good life and was well cared for, and now she's buried at a tree
No percentage wise but there are many people and the world is more connected than ever
One shouldn't give up on the idea so easily
Happiness will come one way or the other even if u think it isn't possible
Honestly this is one of the things i'm not proud about but after losing a lot of my pets i have grown quite emotionally numbed
Understandable
Think my psyche force me to not react to it anymore
It's been 2 years since then
It always feels like that for awhile
I'm happy now
As boring as it is to say
Damn....today's been rough
i guess there“s no choice anyway. even if we try to force it, we“d be lonely together.
Yeah itās best to let go if itās not gonna work
Than try to think marrying will make it work
Ain't wrong
It sucks, but itās the reality, thereās not much else to say there unfortunately.
Getting over someone is always hard and thereās nothing really to fix it beyond time and hopefully finding someone else.
It's rough for you right now, it feels shitty. But one day at a time you'll get through it, hoping for a good time ahead of you
Time heals all wounds some more than others
Cliches are cliches for a reason, theyāre often correct.
The worst part is going to be all the stuff that reminds you of them and the unconscious connections you make, and all that.
One day at a time as they say. One day at a time
remember the guy that stabbed with the nurgle poop knife?
Iāve stayed in lonely together relationships ā a couple of them ā for years. They have to end.
@crisp heath FWIW Iāve been alive for several decades and have known people through breakups, divorces, remarriages. The vast majority, including the really weird/autistic/etc people have ended up in something good. Like basically everyone who isnāt a potential psychopath
And they arenāt āsettling.ā Actually everyone I knew who did that ended it and got into something better.
its mnetioned on the other faction terrain, its just not said on this one
This shit has a half life of like
A good portion of a lifetime
Gonna go see a daemon just for the free mind wiping afterward
Me after time heals the wounds
But instead of a warp god Iām still a stupid asshole
I just opened Discord and check on this chat. I hope that you will get better.
I got some similar issue last year, that was my reason to reinstall Darktide, lol.
Then started looking for group for penance, then started chating more and ended up rambling about Wh40k shenanigans here.
Many such cases
yeah i hope i can find the energy to at least play a little this evening.
Iā¦I am so sorry for that even happening š¦
I'll put it into the donation bin. Maybe that way at least a girl who still has dreams will get to play bride for a day then.
Not sure how bad things were, butā¦the pain of a wrongly matched wedding is probably far bigger than the pain right now. It is hard to feel it in the bones - indeed, there are times I have had to convince myself (35 years single streak) that a wrong wedding is worse than being single - but ultimatelyā¦if it wasnāt going to work out, better for the pain to hit early than later, when the magnitude (and divorce) would make it much, much worse.
a house built on an unstable foundation can only become worse over time
I wrote a thing that I'm proud of.
a ritual of becoming for a homebrew knight house that I'm making; and I wanna know if people think this is accurate-ish to the lore.
Very cool
For honor pfp expected
Alright I've settled for a extra arm with tentacles
part one of IDK.
The chamber of echoes fills with hushed whispers as the entire Markov family slowly files in to watch over Uriel as he undergoes the ritual of becoming. Almir sits among his brothers in the upper portions of the chamber, looking down below onto the platform in front of the frehly refurbished vault that houses Hunter's Echo. The ancient throne mechanicum of the old knight being fitted with new circutry, and soaked with sacred oils and wrapped in blessed scrolls of holy binary scripture. The throne itself isn't much of a throne, but more of a harness or operating table; with places to fit your arms and legs to strap into it, and a helmet with all manner of wires coming out the back of it, connecting it to everything else.
Soon all becomes quiet as the lord sacristan steps up to his podium and the tech priests begin to gather and begin their binary droning. Galen Markov checks his timepiece, midnight strikes it's tone, signalling the beginning of the ceremony. Braziers filled with scented oils are lit, as the chamber fills with smoke and incense.
"Bring forth the aspirant." the lord sacristian drones.
Uriel steps out from his ready room; clad in a custom suit of armor. Synthetic muscles and false nerves, within a skin-tight bodysuit; protected by thin plates of adamantine, with a plasteel coating to prevent oxidation. Sleek and elegant; Uriel steps forward into the light.
"With humility, we ignite the reactor; awakening the knight's spirit." The lord sacristan proclaims, as sparks and fire ignites within the kinght; as Hunter's Echo begins to surge with life once again, the eyes of the ancient Cerastus pattern knight glowing an eerie red.
"Awaken, Oh great machine, and pump thine blood of fire!"
Thr tentacles are like leeches tho
Related to 40k or fantasy?
Seems a lot like fantasy
40k imperial knights
read carefully and you'll see many references to things like "throne mechanicum" "Omnissiah" "machine spirit" ect
part 2 of scene
"Surge, machina maxim." The other priests chant as they begin to slowly sway their bodies like a pendulum.
"Awaken, avenging angel, oh great Hunter's Echo; and tke up arms!"
"Surge, machina maxim."
"Awaken, oh graviton lance and holy lascutter; sacred are these armaments to the Omnissiah to devastate the foe. Awaken, oh ion shield; and bear your bastion of holy light. Awaken, throne mechanicum; the time for war has come!" the lord sacristan shouts as Hunter's Echo bring's it's weapons systems online; the graviton lance crackles and pulses with energy, while the lascutter hisses and raditates with heat and a red glow. The ion sheild sparks to life and a shimmer of energy can be seen surrounding the knight.
"Surge, machina maxim." The tech priests continue to chant and sway
"With reverence, we lead our sons to rest upon the seat of power; knowing the sacred machine will protect us."
Uriel is guided towards the knight as it turns around and opens it's back compartment, awaiting it's throne mechanicum. The harness opens and the helmet is drawn up as Uriel shakily settles into a sitting postion. The clamps sinch down on his wrists with a click, as his hands fit themselves into the gauntlets; the boots lock into place, as tech priests finish strapping Uriel into the throne mechanicum.
"With pride, we crown the aspirant with holy circutry; anointing them to be a pilot. With grace, we bow to the will of the Omnissiah; knowing it is in his grace, they will be guided. Blessed be to the great machine...the Emperor Protects." The lord sacrstan finishes and steps back into shadow.
The masked helmet crackles with energy, as neural nodes that line the inside of it prime themselves. Uriel takes deep, shaking breaths as his body floods with adrenaline; knowing the pain of previous simulated rituals. But this is the real thing, and he must endure it. The helmet lowers itself and clamps down onto Uriel's head as the crackling of the energy from the knight's machine spirit can be heard, mixing with Uriel's shrill screams and shivvering howls of pain.
@crisp heath you have some irl friends / family to hang out with today / these days?
Who live nearbyish
Not the worst choice
Iām just grabbing all the stuff I can tbh
Got this at 3 separate hobby stores
One of which has a 15% discount on all games workshop stuff
Heading back there in a moment
Way smaller than I thought it was tbh
Like smallest 40k book Iāve seen
Yeah its a fine read
i said it before but it has great material for like
Cypher being cool
Dark Angels being absolute hilarious morons
A ton of Imperial Palace lower-level exploration
otherwise its mid but a generally "ok" read
Iāve read the first few pages before
And ik it starts with the ||DA just up and killing their own serfs||
And it spirals from there
Fantastic
i wont spoil much but the AMOUNT of effort they go through to disguise their incursion is so funny
and they are so stoic about it which is even better
Great
Iāve heard it has a like
Mix of chaos and loyal and renegade fallen in cyphers group
Even if heās an āunreliable narratorā
So Iām looking forward to that
so what's cypher's deal
is it the sort of thing we'll never be told
his name is mega cringe
Wandering asshole doing what he wants I reckon
Before Cypher himself it was a title
The order on caliban had the āLord Cypherā
Who was basically their religious leader, gave up their identity to serve their brothers and sisters
Yeah like minor spoiler but not really-
He literally just gathers a group of nutjob Fallen to go through the lower levels of the Palace and its just the entire journey
He also duel wields
and has a edgelord cloak/hood
Perfect
i dig the dark angel aesthetics but god damn their lore is boring
30k is far better imo
it very much is a fact yeah
also this
And in turn the fallen
And has a big sword on his back
Double cringe
Thereās a series of artworks
Of just random fallen
With all a bunch of different vibes
My favorite thing ever
so to understand this clearly, what the fuck do fallen do again?
uh
literally just chaos astartes
they are suppose to be "renegades"
but since 40k has no nuance they are always working for chaos
so why are they treated differently
because they are the "shame" of the Chapter
Silence can prob explain it better
they are a nice idea that falls flat largely due to the narrative weakness of 40k to a degree
are they night lords type of renegade
Like youāll see a fallen leading a warband much rather than just be a random member of one
Most of their stories is about a single fallen taking over like an entire planet
what the hell
so each fallen is just strong due to plot reasons
Mhm
and they all date to the heresy
Cause they have no idea what else to do with them
So far yes, it was mentioned randomly in a white dwarf some fallen have learned to make new astartes
So if theyāre considered fallen is a whole discussion
Some
Most are chaos for some reason, even if thatās not how they were written during the heresy
Like they were very much independent, their whole thing was caliban succession
They just used Horusā rebellion as their opportunity
so did they not like the emperor
Then Zahariel got a worm talking to him, Luther got turned into chaosā champion after Horus died
It was a mixed bag, it was also how they convinced so many marines to join them
Just up and lying lol
wait luther became a fucking chaos champion?
- To add to this its also because 40k never properly allows renegade marines that dont side with the Imperium or Chaos (ala Ashen Claws who are a literal footnote in lore still even with "new" lore) since you need to buy faction specific stuff/be inclined towards them from reading books.
Mhm
Heās called the Arch Betrayer I think?
what the hell did that guy do to deserve becoming a champion
Read books lol
i know what he did
And they just needed him to kill Lion so they threw every chip in his corner
Mhm
which chaos is he a champion of
Which he refused to do
Very much undivided
ah
Now heās just insane
They hated his ass, like he had 2 separate epiphanies
So the chaos gods got so mad they blew up the planet
must be nice being hated by literally everyone in 40k
i thought luther intentionally caused that
they can just do that
Mhm
Caliban was by a warp tear too
Itās why they had great beasts
And why the trees themselves hated humanity
i was going to mention cadia but i just remembered the pylons 
i guess caliban should have had necron L bozo
Depends, a lot of the ones we saw in books prior would be corrupted and juiced, some examples of daemon princes or chaos hampions all juiced up, some examples of normal marines.
With the Lion back and the Risen we see more of a mix
awww so lion could have fought a demon prince dark angel instead of angron
that would have been nice
Theres others implied or mentioned too but regardless, a lot of weaker ones are found quicker by the DA so a lot get forced to turn to chaos or go into hiding immediately.
Also on this, many of the older calibanites hated the emperor. He kinda just came in and destroyed and strip mined their planet, they felt obsolete. The younger ones were just too loyal to caliban itself, they swore their oaths to Luther and the order, not the emperor and the imperium
With how the Caliban thing worked they go thrown through time so when they pop up is fairly random, with some veterans show up to see novices now older than them and all that.
The younger fallen didn't really know what was going on largely when the Lion attacked the planet.
And then you have the Terrans and stuff, who they lied to and believed that the lion was infact the traitor, so they fired on them
The Lion is named after famous homosexual poet Lion El Johnson who wrote a poem about blowing dudes called "dark angel"
glad I could help
is this because they were found so early in the crusade and the imperium needed resources more badly
It was because the Lion allowed it
They were found pretty late actually
And the lion just didnāt care
Its Luthers big gripe with him among other things.
i thought dark angels were the first to be found
No
He was quite late.
Dark angels were the first legion
The Lion is also the coldest motherfucker in the heresy
why are they the first then
dude has no empathy
Created first
Also the numbers of the legions aren't really important.
Mhm
And then soyjacks and points when nobody listens to him anymore
They did have a homeworld before caliban tho
Grammarye
And they had 2 legion masters, both got nuked
lol
The legion almost died a couple times before Lion was found
My favorite part of New-HH is detailing how the Dark Angels nuked every traitor homeworld

They felt the other legions were leaving them behind
Some wild fights
It is actually so good
was it before or after they found the lion that proto dark angels were using crazy tech like men of iron
its SO fucking funny
do they stil have control of it?
like i forgot which I THINK it was Barbarus where they literally go to the surface
That one Cthonia anthology ends with them just blowing up the planet
Before
The lion is always depicted as being cold, unwanting, kind of an ahole.
mike brooks gets hold of him
Starts hitting WWE moves on chaos marines and becoming an arthurian redemption arc character
Probably, it was basically turned into a mining world after they found caliban
That was chemos
so dark angels had a lot of time to do work before they had their primarch
And people don't get why I think Brooks is a hack
A fair amount, I think it was about a 100 years into the GC he was found.
46
I don't think he's a bad author tbh; I enjoy his work. Yet I know it's got that feeling of "im trying something new with established characters and you just gotta take it like a good boy"
46 years, so not too bad
why were they so attached to caliban then?
And there was a moment where when it happened, the fleet master literally clapped and laughed and had spit running down his chin
I love how you know this 
its their homeworld
Same reason all legions were
Eventually most of the legion was from it
Looks at nightlords
Homeworld, Lion was big on calibanite culture, more than the physical place
Why do I think the USA should liberate Canada? same reason
They were attached, Curze was also just insane.
Like he actually allowed the practice of calibanite mythology within the legion
Barbarus is pretty much the same...stinky
Nostramo's destruction wasn't exactly something the legion was happy about.
He has wooden engravings of satyrs and spirits in his quarters
even the night lords hated it though at that point. it fell back to being shitty after curze left
"its a shithole...But its OUR shithole"
me with new jersey
people in Birmingham
so which legion had the least connection to their homeworld
Before btw
They have like
World Eaters
world eaters legit have none
They recruited from a lot of different places
Bodt was sorta one.
But they didn't have one real home world
oh yeah Nuceria. Angron went back there and went full John Henry on their asses with his two chainaxes
The emperor actually gave them the contingency to exterminate the entirety of the mechanicum
what about alpha legion
Them also
idek what their hw is
same
No real homeworld
They just kinda showed up tbh. Iām not sure they had one
I had to read Legion by Dan Abnett twice to figure out what was going on
and I'm a pretty swift guy usually
I question the literacy of the 40k community when Legion is a complicated book to some of your mfers.
Dude Iāve read a single AL story, and alpharius was pretending to be a marine the entire time
the Imperial Fists pretty much live in a mobile home, the Phalanx
They have Inwit
nitwit
planet "nitwit"
It doesn't get much focus but its still their homeworld and they recruited from it a lot and still do.
it sounds funny when you say it out loud
Its Inuit but spelled different cause sci fi
and it has nothing to do with the inuit culture
It does
i think it's cold and that's it
Its got similar tribes, some germanic some more classic Inuit style. We don't see a lot but there is some.
I was hoping Rogal Dorns book would go into his time there more but
it's germanic
God forbid the primarch books focus on what we want.
Yes I'd love to hear about the conquest of some world you made up author
they have to skip the boring stuff and get to the melodramatic horus heresy story
How fascinating.
dont you enjoy large muscly men shooting eachother
Then about Guilliman's did that and the author was trash so
to be fair
Its not even that though.
most primarch books are trash
like universally agreed as so
so its not exactly wrong

Its about 50/50 but yeah a lot suck because as I said
what's horus's book
Ong wait
Not out yet
really?
like a fully horus backstory book?
@storm jungle I remembered something about the DA and their planet blowing up-ness
Holy shit you're right i forgot that was a thing
The best primarch books tend to be the ones which focus on their upbringing.
They bombed Nuceria, after angron already killed everyone on it
For no reason
They were already being petty.
thats some shit id do tbh
"oh he beat us to it...anyways" presses button
Yeah like angron could āsense itā during the siege I think
Mhm. Chemos, Barbarus, Nuceria, cthonia
Night Lords destroyed their own, the rest was largely DA.
wait.. isn't there a whole HH campaign focused on the final battle of horus's home world
Mhm
It takes place during the Siege
It ends with them blowing it up
lol
Actually I say blow up
Thatās very
Putting it lightly
They throw it into the warp
i feel like that campaign exists solely because it's the closest we'll ever get to a siege of terra campaign
that's going to be insane
Kinda
its not
because no Bligh
They're doing other stuff first.
š
They put bombs on the planet that open mini tears in real space
There's a War in the Webway campaign book rumored.
The siege of Cwokia
siege of terra campaign with fully documented imperial palace
die
Yeah they can do SoT for
That would be cool but mfers been talking about this for years
A long long time
im feeling the soy hype
I wish they placed some focus on the Unification Wars, do a bit of variety with kitbashing models and human factions.
They do this with imperial fists and thousand sons on there btw
Well this time its real
if only
Also the Emperor model has been leaked as existing for awhile but not released yet.
They say they deserved their fate because if the emperor is truly dead then itās their fault
They'll probably do Heresy Custodes 2.0 and the Emperor model.
Emperor model would sell like crack but I feel like it reduces the mystique
Agreed
It exists to sell for painters, no ones ever gonna play it
He'll be absurdly expensive like Horus Ascendant.
they did a horus ascended model so it's only a matter of time
Soyjacking rn
Theres kind of a lot of focus on the Black Books the problem is like

every unification entry is just
"The Emperors Genechad-Alchemo armies fought the evil Gore-Gholem-Wight-Witches of Pan-Afrikanos-Mongolians"
I found my Horus the Warmaster primarch model in a ziplock bag in my drawer
I had completely forgotten it
Horus Ascendant games don't really exist
and you better believe they'll hype the emperor model for months
He technically has rules but
But which color scheme was the Genechad-Alchemo armoes

I fully expect to just, be reading a 40k timeline one of these days
And it just read
āThe Dutch bombed Ohioā
Also an Istvaan III campaign book, and box eventually here.
And Iāll believe it
watched the inauguration today, Bezos's head reminds me of a gretchin
And after the siege they can do the Scouring even.
i feel like if that was going to exist they would have done one
They're not shy about going back in time if need be.
what would an istvan III campaign even be
oh i would like some attention on the scouring and legion wars
Istvaan III
it would have to be epic scale
oh
Istvaan III was the traitors purging their ranks
And yeah they already did Istvaan V
i guess istvan III could happen as a loyalists defending vs attacking chaos
when are loyalists ever not the defenders man
what happened to ıstvaan I and Istvaan II
Thats where this stuff comes from.
they merged to create istvan III
thats fucked up mang
Thats what happenes when one group is primarily attacking.
Also, bodt.
same reason as to why the Power armor skipped from 8 to 10 because Mechanicus can't count for shit
Damn it
I wish Mk X armor was cool
because the chaos faction is suppose to be an evil horde of monsters
Different planets
while the loyalists are like "heroes" essentially
hello heresy
40k
Theres not a lack of loyalist attacking in the heresy its just the more famous events are traitors attacking the loyalist worlds in surprise or the major bulwarks to get to Terra
World Eaters on Istvaan III were just lost children at that point after the bombings
LOL
i like the point in the book where the protag stumbles across the world eaters building a fort out of dead bodies
"ohhh it has barbarian gangs!"
okay that too but i didnt wanna be rude
also like yeah
?
reading it made me depressed
the world eaters on istvan III were like aight i guess we're killing space marines now
You didn't wanna be rude?
i legit miss Bligh so much

Its harder for you i know but i try to at least
you little tincan shitheel son of a-
Uh huh
Sure jan
Eternal i hope you know you're the entire reason i hate iron hands as a faction
well more like "be glad" i guess idk
Doubt
Theres a reason they are in my tier of:
"cool camo"
Me looking for Dilara's filter
iron hands dont care about being liked
If I was concerned about other peoples opinions I wouldn't be an IH fan.
he says
getting mad at another ferrus joke
it kinda reminds of the Black Ops mission where Viktor was betrayed by the russians, combined with western forces arriving and had to escape the ship containing nova 6. the line where he says "EVERYONE. This is not our war!"

Also VERY obscure reference but ill take it
I can both not care about people's opinions and call out overused already old jokes at the same time.
POV: The Psyker using their "Venting Shriek" ability
the balls
that too
Thats where the heresy is stored
This is my essay on why tyberos is da strongest cuz he d biggest and he is a girl
I don't think we were
if Tyberos is a girl then I've got some questions for the audiobook narrator
Die
No one said hes a pretty girl
feels like you two are shooting the shit more then anything
not arguing
Or she I guess
I cant tell tbh
im watching EVA on the side
can you imagine an entire space marine book audiobook read by a woman
(it sucks)
when the coach joins the dodgeball team for 5th grade PE class
Terrible
I already have to listen to women too much.
I would actually love that
Im not gonna be surprised if she gets replaced
Votaan?
She better or find out a way to not sound like shit.
his girlfriend died btw š
Or something else

its Votann
There's no way they can't find one other woman in inglin with a slightly nicer voice.
Their book came out?
Damn son
Jesus
anyway book bad
I like their revolvers
you mean uh
Thatās really all I can say
space revolver
boltvolvers?
rebolver
It'd give it 3.6 roentgen
Is it because you are stealing it for your Dark Angels in some fashion
Rolter
isn't that lethal
Nah
No its not great, not terrible
I am stealing stuff from the ghostbusters though
the commonality between the female and male protaganist of persona 3 is they can both be massive assholes constantly and generally be depressing 
my doctor told me to avoid gamma ray sources in my diet
coward
Your doctor sounds like a pussy
When grandma wants to give you a big kiss on the cheek and she's shorter than you:


