40k-lore-chat

[dusk patrol]

Basically put the entire rebellion down immediately once signaled

[summer mural]

synchronized sniping is no problem for vindicares im sure

they can probably do it hanging upside down from places

[dusk patrol]

The Callidus infiltrated the ships of the other high lords and killed them

Overall probably wasn’t the hardest mission based off how it seems

Id recommend the books, does a cool look at the High Lords politics

[summer mural]

apparently the grand master of the assassinorum is a high lord of terra too

I wonder if that position has a high turnover rate

or if theres been one grand master now for centuries

[dusk patrol]

Yeah he is, and it’s not clear.

Most high lord positions seem to have a high turnover

[crisp heath]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ToOjbJLBM9Y

Lool haha

[winter vessel]

Weirdest assassin bit of lore I’ve learned: “Mother Gullet”

[humble shoal]

Think fabricator general has a high turnover?

[storm jungle]

In-universe vore moment

[storm jungle]

also as ever the superior faction

aside from sometimes being annoying prob the best people in this fandom lol

[queen laurel]

What can we say we are the type of people to put together a weapon out of garbage and then beat anything that has a pulse

[winter vessel]

Yeah. I read it and I went “okay somebody couldn’t resist, huh?”

[storm jungle]

They are better than most imperial stans ive met with over the last 12 years at least so that helps

[queen laurel]

Isn't it 13 years now

[winter vessel]

Now I’m imagining the callidus assassin doing the same thing in that Burger King commercial where the Asian guy opens his jaw to eat the whopper in one bite

[queen laurel]

But yes ork fans are just simple

[storm jungle]

Actually yeah good point lol

[queen laurel]

You're pushing to 15 inquisitor

Remember that

[dusk patrol]

Doubt it’s as much but we don’t have much for examples

[storm jungle]

👩‍🦼

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/mXPiLA9pKXw?si=G_AmrBDOpde-RtzO

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Explicitly no

The fabricator general of mars only changes when they die

Or go completely insane

[humble shoal]

And how often do they die....

[arctic talon]

Once every thousand+ years or so give it take a few hundred years

[humble shoal]

Aight

[arctic talon]

Fabricator general is a position for life

[humble shoal]

Wad mostly thinking abojt assasination and politicking

As fabricator general is probably the hardest one to assasinate off hand.

[arctic talon]

Yeah killing the fabricator general is

Generally a terrible idea

On any forgeworld

The Parliament will devolve into chaos and the potential sucessors will all be shanking each other

[rose thorn]

does the fabricator general have tabletop repersentation?

[arctic talon]

The Martian parliament has the worst type of tech priests

Politicians

[arctic talon]

No

He’s too fat

Literally

He’d be a massive terrain piece

[dusk patrol]

At least one of his bodies is the size of a factory

[rose thorn]

based

i hope admech get more named characters in the future (mainly to decrease the army price)

a mounted hero will be fun

[arctic talon]

I don’t want more characters 💀

Pls

No

The main cost for admech comes from shit like the ironstriders, serbrys and stuff

Skitarii ppm are fine price wise

[rose thorn]

lmao yeah but its much more likley to get foot heroes than a new unit

[arctic talon]

Yeppppo

[celest dome]

What if character, but not tied to Mars

[arctic talon]

Also fine

But I still don’t want it lol

[rose thorn]

maybe like, a character that travels to baby sit other forge worlds

[arctic talon]

Give me the admech Gestapo mini

Lol

[rose thorn]

my favorite admech writing archetype

admech writing has two sides

[arctic talon]

Gimme a magos Malagra

[storm jungle]

Im on my own side of:

Very kind techpriest

Looks like a evil junkyard explosion

[dusk patrol]

I like the eccentric absent minded Magos personally

But looks like this.

“Hmm yes a menial. Pardon my vox quality, I haven’t seen someone down here in two Terran cycles. While you’re here, would mind helping me clear out the rouse infestation?”

[rose thorn]

admech are either insane omega smart incompetatant bastards or robot nazis

[storm jungle]

honestly

yeah

[spring cairn]

both

[storm jungle]

i do love how unapolegtically evil they are

[spring cairn]

both is good

[storm jungle]

its such a breath of fresh air

[rose thorn]

mhm

[dusk patrol]

You act like these things aren’t often the same

[rose thorn]

very true

[storm jungle]

for real

[rose thorn]

admech is one of the most original thins ive seen in fiction

things*

i really apperciate it

[storm jungle]

its the way they are executed which helps

machine worship is not a new concept but 40k diversifies/explores it a ton which helps it as a pioneer in some sense

[rose thorn]

also robot politics help alot

[spring cairn]

also they look very unique

and aesthetics are everything so

[rose thorn]

i dont know how unique eldar are honestly

but i really wanna liek the asthetic but its a struggle

i love when they wear shit ontop of their funky armor

(corsairs)

also kroot are very unique i love them

[humble shoal]

General transhumanists tbh

Just more religious

[storm jungle]

Pretty unique id say

it helps that they are a mix of like 6-7 cultures

and not like 1 token IRL group

[humble shoal]

Harlequins are unique

Space elve clowns

[storm jungle]

also yeah thats never been done before lmao

Craftworld Eldar id largely say are a good take on high elves

[humble shoal]

I can't think of any italian opera characters in space

Except ss13

Which had the clown

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

i love harlequins lmao

[rose thorn]

thought you said tolkien lmao

[storm jungle]

LOL

get out

[humble shoal]

Dark eldar are just dark elves in space

[storm jungle]

tho the word "Eldar" is literally stolen from Tolkien

which is great

[humble shoal]

Aeldari

[storm jungle]

GW says that

and goes

™️

slaps

"Perfect."

[humble shoal]

Yeah

Remember when they tried to copyright the word warhammer

[rose thorn]

Aelf (tm)

[storm jungle]

i think it was space marine

and they lost the court case

because its fucking stupid

[arctic talon]

Aelf is an actual word

Tbf

[rose thorn]

wait relaly?

[humble shoal]

Cant copyright sm either

[storm jungle]

that makes it even worse

[arctic talon]

It’s just an antiquated word for elf

[humble shoal]

Because heinlin

[storm jungle]

Imagine being a judge and waking up to this as your trial

like

[rose thorn]

is duardin a word

[storm jungle]

im not surprised they lost

[arctic talon]

Idk

[humble shoal]

They should have gotten slapped harder for it

[storm jungle]

Agreed lol

if i was the judge if fine em for wasting my time

[rose thorn]

"your honor, we are trying to copy right the word 'bolt'"

[humble shoal]

Think they also tried to do pauldron

[storm jungle]

[humble shoal]

Same lawsuit

[storm jungle]

Judge be like:

"What in the fuck-"

[arctic talon]

7e GW moment

[queen laurel]

Another good take i would say is of course the trifecta member of being orks

[arctic talon]

Lol

[queen laurel]

Genuinely one of the best interpretations of the green guys i have ever seen

There's just something with warhammer orcs that captivates humans

[rose thorn]

i heard that alot of modern orcs are based off warhammer orcs

but i dont believe it

[queen laurel]

I will say fantasy is in the weaker side

[humble shoal]

They like to drink beer at the pub

[storm jungle]

Orcs in general are extremely popular in all forms of fiction

so its not a big surprise

[storm jungle]

No they arent

[queen laurel]

Age of sigmar and warhammer 40k

Now those guys are the winner

[arctic talon]

Nah

[storm jungle]

DnD/LOTR is the progenitor of orcs

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

warhammer stole from it

[arctic talon]

And then 40k made it good

[storm jungle]

^

WHF orcs are fine but they are literally LOTR orcs but buffer

[arctic talon]

Whfb popularized green orcs

[queen laurel]

Yeah but they're also one of the greatest helpers in ark media popularizing the one of the more popular or archetypes

[arctic talon]

Ig

[queen laurel]

The green giants

[storm jungle]

Yeah that

[queen laurel]

But i can also give that credit to blizzard

[storm jungle]

Yeah this, warhammer orcs tend to be more buff violent-er savages

[queen laurel]

World of warcraft and all of that

But i will stick to saying it warhammer

[storm jungle]

WoW orcs are basically WHF orcs with some nobler qualities

[queen laurel]

Gw genuinely cooks because age of sigmar and 40k orcs are f****** awesome

[arctic talon]

And less stupid

Lol

[storm jungle]

LOL

true

[rose thorn]

the bonesplittaz are literally just the horde

its insane that existed

[arctic talon]

No

[queen laurel]

That's an insult to the horde

[rose thorn]

(i onl play hearthstone)

[storm jungle]

I remember someone saying AOS orks beat both 40k/WHF orks then listing off all the shit AoS orks have done and bruh these greenboyz are crazy

[rose thorn]

its so funny because they stole stuff they did and gave it to 40k orks

[queen laurel]

Yeah like in a fist fight

[arctic talon]

Like what

I forgor

[queen laurel]

A Ironjaw

Is going to brutalize just about every type of ork

[rose thorn]

fighitng so hard it opens portals

[storm jungle]

LOL

[arctic talon]

Orks in 40k don’t do that

What

[storm jungle]

Well kind of

[rose thorn]

theres an entire clan based purely on it

[storm jungle]

but in 40k orks need psychic conduits and shit ye

wait what

[rose thorn]

in aos

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

oh lol

LMAO

[queen laurel]

Yeah in the boss of bosses story, Gordrakk manifested his will into breaking a crown that was poisoning him

[storm jungle]

yeah checks out

[queen laurel]

And in that same book he was fighting a gargant

In a boxing match

And he won

[storm jungle]

Deep thinking hours

[queen laurel]

soulbound goes hard

[storm jungle]

I think my favorite thing with warhammer orks is "zog" is literally just "fuck"

[rose thorn]

also aos orruks are a like a bit smtarter than 40k orks

[queen laurel]

Why do you think i start saying zog me

[rose thorn]

i think

not counting kruleboyz

[storm jungle]

Almost

[queen laurel]

Because it's like f*** but better rolling off the tongue

[storm jungle]

they are like maybe ONE tier higher

ONE

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's like always it depends

[rose thorn]

lmao

[arctic talon]

It’s like barely lol

[queen laurel]

Some iron jaws are dumbass f***

[rose thorn]

kruleboyz are '

[arctic talon]

Mostly since AoS orruks aren’t like

[rose thorn]

'puppy torturing 5 year old' level

[arctic talon]

Uber racists

[storm jungle]

LOL

yeah they are more violent-er DnD orks in some cases

its a mix

[queen laurel]

Dude they respect grots

They respect the goblins

[arctic talon]

DnD orcs are like

[queen laurel]

I can't believe it

[arctic talon]

Just violent

And assholes because of their god

[queen laurel]

Aren't they like more human now

[rose thorn]

i always feel liek kruleboyz are unique but they really are tolken orcs with gangrene

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

Or are they still like

[arctic talon]

Doesn’t change that though

[queen laurel]

The same big guys that will kill you

[arctic talon]

That their gods still a dick

[rose thorn]

and somehow more slavery

[arctic talon]

It’s both

Lol

[queen laurel]

Ah shame

[queen laurel]

You mean their body plan

More human like and linear and wiry

[rose thorn]

they are freakishly tall tbh

its hard to tell because you see them fight stormcasts

[queen laurel]

Yeah but don't let that fool you there still pretty strong

They can rip a human's arm off but not not the whole thing of course

[arctic talon]

Goblins are like inherently assholes though in dnd

Lol

Their god made them to be evil

[queen laurel]

Wow it is where for fiction for goblins to be treated as good guys

[arctic talon]

I mean they can overcome it

[rose thorn]

are bugbears genetically related to goblins?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[rose thorn]

neat

i liek the hills yeti vibe

[arctic talon]

They’re distantly related

Sorta like

Idfk

Dolphins and dogs?

[storm jungle]

WHAT

[arctic talon]

What

They’re distantly related

[storm jungle]

well explains the incessant humping i guess

[queen laurel]

I mean hippos and whales are distantly related

[arctic talon]

But yeah normal goblins in dnd are a bunch or pricks

There’s some that aren’t

[queen laurel]

Not that ridiculously

[arctic talon]

But

[rose thorn]

also im glad dnd is moivng away from grouping greenskins (i havent seen it yet but htey said on twitter they are doing that)

[queen laurel]

Yeah but who would you trust more a Grot from age of sigmar or a dnd goblin

[arctic talon]

They never did

What

Orcs in dnd don’t even always have green skin

Goblins don’t have green skin either

[storm jungle]

yeah i thought DnD mixed it up

[arctic talon]

Goblins are like human shades

[queen laurel]

Yes they have varied skin colors same with orcs

[rose thorn]

my bad imight be thinking of osmething else

[arctic talon]

Orcs in dnd range wildly from human skin tones to grey and green

Hell

There’s orcs who are red

[rose thorn]

canonically there is non green orruks but i only see it as paint jobs in WDs

[arctic talon]

Neat

[queen laurel]

So there are orcs that are like drow colored in skin color?

[rose thorn]

gonna be real it doenst take not green very well

[queen laurel]

Do not quote that or put it out of context

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Orcs also have like

Subspecies

[queen laurel]

Honestly are very rarely see people use the Tolkien style orcs

[arctic talon]

Because they’re just pure evil

And people don’t like that

[queen laurel]

Yeah the main orc representation nowadays is between warhammer or warcraft

There is of course the outlying pig orc

But no one also cares about that one

[arctic talon]

Anyways relevant to dnd ogres

[rose thorn]

when i saw the first lotr movie i thought they were cannibal humans not orcs lol

[dapper gyro]

DnD style orc is also quite popular.

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

Feed him a circlet of intelligence or whatever

[arctic talon]

Lol

[queen laurel]

Also speaking of

[queen laurel]

Doesn't aether quartz literally do the same thing

Make someone smarter

[rose thorn]

when the ogor refresh drops

i might either fall in love or not care at all

[arctic talon]

It makes them think faster

Not be smarter

[rose thorn]

how old are the ogor maw tribe models anyway?

[arctic talon]

Literally this meme

[dapper gyro]

So intelligence without wisdom.

[queen laurel]

So that's what happened to bundo whale biter

[arctic talon]

Bundo prolly was already smart

[queen laurel]

Yeah he's the special regiment of renown kraken eater

[arctic talon]

Id assume the aetherquartz

Like

[queen laurel]

Yeah he was probably already pretty cunning

[arctic talon]

Gave them the ability to properly think through stuff faster

[queen laurel]

Yeah that makes sense

[rose thorn]

THE BOY!

[queen laurel]

Yes the gargant with common sense

[rose thorn]

kraken eaters areusually the oldest of the gargants

he is a boomer he isnt as dumb

well

unwise

[queen laurel]

Yes they are and because of that they are usually also sometimes one of the biggest

[rose thorn]

true

[queen laurel]

Mind you of course they are just a rare few

That decided to live in the ocean

[rose thorn]

i imagine kraken eaters have whales in their mouth liek cats holding a fish

[queen laurel]

Say A war stomper can reach their age and still keep on being a war stomper

[arctic talon]

Prolly

God please GW

Divorce sylvaneth from their stupid magical woods

They’re cool

BUT I DON’T WANT 12

[queen laurel]

You know what else they should divorce together

KRULEBOYZ AND IRONJAWZ

[arctic talon]

Lol

Some day

[queen laurel]

Look i know both of them are orruks but they literally function completely opposite of each other

[rose thorn]

THEY DID TOO AND HTEN UNDID IT

[arctic talon]

Next edition

Bring back overgrown terrain

Literally the most accurate sylvaneth have been to their lore

For terrain and then they took it away

If they don’t like a building just give it to the plants

[rose thorn]

apparently you are allowed to use their old terrain instead of new terrain

its just very funky

[arctic talon]

Well

[rose thorn]

'new'

[arctic talon]

That’s not my problem

[rose thorn]

lmao

[arctic talon]

I don’t want that many trees

To play the army without handicapping myself

Lol

[rose thorn]

its so silly you have to make a fucking ring

[arctic talon]

It’s fun

They’re fey creatures

And weird elf souls

[rose thorn]

yeah but if your LGS doenst use the offical table lay outs you could just

not have terrain

[arctic talon]

Ew

Terrain is fun

[rose thorn]

i mean trees

[arctic talon]

Oh

I mean

[rose thorn]

your trees

[arctic talon]

I need my trees inherently

For the army to work properly

[rose thorn]

the premade terrain was measure to make sure the trees will always fit

[queen laurel]

Wait are the wood boys a semi elite army that is terrain reliant right now

[rose thorn]

flash backs to S2D cyclopes terrain shinnigans

[arctic talon]

They’ve always been terrain reliant

But GW made it worse

Because now you can’t just have a single set of trees

[queen laurel]

Oh

[arctic talon]

For full strength

You NEED 4

[queen laurel]

Damn

[arctic talon]

[queen laurel]

Absolutely brutal

[rose thorn]

HAHAHAH

thats so bad

you use to have to use this

the trees wre removable

but now wer use

????????

[arctic talon]

Nah the new one is cool lol

My issue is just

I need to own so many

[dusk patrol]

Can’t you just use your own terrain I’m confused

[arctic talon]

I don’t own that much tree terrain with that base shape

[rose thorn]

gloomspite gitz and sylvaneth (and nurgle but people rarely run the funny 3 bush build) have the largest terrain features

i mean also ossiarchs is huge but its on your own board space

[arctic talon]

You need to buy special terrain or like bash it and then you need to cast a spell to summon the trees

[dusk patrol]

Ah I see

[queen laurel]

Does orruk war clans join in with the terrain game because of the new towers

[rose thorn]

you have to summon it like nurgle?

[dusk patrol]

The answer is simple, don’t play the forest dorks.

[rose thorn]

thier terrain is really small tbh

[queen laurel]

It is huh

[rose thorn]

and you need it clsoe to center board

so its good

[queen laurel]

That is true

[dusk patrol]

If I was gonna get into AoS I’d probably do Kharadron Overlords, Ironjawz, or Flesheater Courts

Maybe Bonereapers

[crystal forum]

i like when terrain is shapes that would be super hard to do yourself

like terrain pieces you buy for money should be those weird shapes

even though i want BUNKER TERRAIN GW GIVE IT BACK

PLEASE https://buildinstructions.com/wp-content/uploads/Wall-of-Martyrs-Aquila-Strongpoint-Title-Image.png

this shit goes so fucking hard

[dusk patrol]

Hot

Is that for Titanicus?

[crystal forum]

nah

this was full fucking scale

[dusk patrol]

Damn

[crystal forum]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/7/78/AquilaStrongpointMini.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180721003918

[dusk patrol]

Hot

[crystal forum]

they had a whole range

and the cannon had rules even

i think it's a titan macro canon

[dusk patrol]

I was gonna ask

[queen laurel]

Do you still have this by the way dilara

[crystal forum]

the variants

yes those are deathstrike missiles

[dusk patrol]

I figured

Pretty slick

[crystal forum]

they could all be linked together with smaller bunker pieces too

[storm jungle]

it was like a year old thread id have to find it

[crystal forum]

it was modular

[queen laurel]

Damn sad

[storm jungle]

Same

[queen laurel]

Oh well you don't have to worry about it then

[dusk patrol]

If I had to guess it wasn’t popular enough to keep making

It is sick though

[crystal forum]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/3/30/WallofMartyrsDefenceNetwork.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180728005336

you could make a whole trench terrain

[dusk patrol]

Better be giving me a points advantage if I’m playing into that jfc

[crystal forum]

a year ago a couple of these bunkers came back for a limited time and i got the imperial bastion

way too expensive lol

[queen laurel]

Do you at least remember which website it was

[celest dome]

Wall of Martyr ? Something new happened to those mini ?

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s just super niche

[storm jungle]

Alas, r*ddit

[queen laurel]

Figured

[dusk patrol]

It’s awesome but it’s expensive and not a lot of people will go into the effort

[crystal forum]

it has 3 levels it's pretty cool

you can build it smaller

[arctic talon]

Shame the build quality on these were ass

[crystal forum]

wasn't it outsourced?

[arctic talon]

Since they weren’t made by GW

Yeah

The production was outsourced

[queen laurel]

Also Dilara ain't no way even the google ai says that orruks are physically built different

[crystal forum]

fun fucking fact

the bastion still has specific rules in 30k i shit you not @dusk patrol

it's in terrain or something

[storm jungle]

Google has AI???

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it sucks

[crystal forum]

you can use the 4 bolters and everything

[queen laurel]

Yeah it sucks

[dusk patrol]

It’s always fucking off

[queen laurel]

But yeah it has it now

[dusk patrol]

God I hate it

[queen laurel]

On rare occasions

It is accurate

But most of the time it has the accuracy of an actual ork

[crystal forum]

wood glue on pizza

[dusk patrol]

I never trust it, dude it was giving me like

Some crazy shit for a basic omelet recipe

[arctic talon]

It’s less accurate then an ork

Orks hit on 5’s and 6’s smh

[queen laurel]

And i will say this one hits on a 20 yeah

Has to be a critical success for it to be even considered a success

[crystal forum]

no still stuck in the shadow realm

prob wont ever come back since it would cost an unreasonable amount of money to make a full terrain

[arctic talon]

Tbh

It might comeback someday

GW finally can expand their factory

[crystal forum]

im surprised aegis line is still around

is hammerfall bunker the last terrain piece GW has added that has specific rules?

[dusk patrol]

At least we probably know what this looks like a little bit then.

[crystal forum]

i was so surprised to see the hammerfall in SM2

[arctic talon]

Imperial knight one

That didn’t work RAW

Or the tectonic fragdrill

[crystal forum]

you can actually see some aquila strongpoint canons in SM2

the same cannons with golden eagle thing

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/monday-night-raw-wwe-raw-wrestling-2020-gif-19125491

[crystal forum]

i swear that game is jam packed with model references

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

They scanned in a ton of stuff

[crystal forum]

the loader sentinel

[dusk patrol]

Basically anything they could to add to it

[crystal forum]

which is everywhere

[dusk patrol]

They talk about it somewhere

But they scanned in every single Terran piece and vehicle that was relevant

[crystal forum]

you cant even buy the model anymore is the funny thing, it's not like they were asked by marketing

[dusk patrol]

And tried to put them in

Iirc they have third party stuff scanned in

For like a Tsons tank

Or something

[crystal forum]

official GW game using proxies is some funny shit

i was pogging so hard noticing all the models

[storm jungle]

Its to promote space marines so yeah

its why the hammerfall bunker appearance is like

"Wait, why tho"

[crystal forum]

that one i get

[forest orbit]

That cutscene is like one of the most unnecessarily long ones in the game too

[crystal forum]

but the random ass hades drill at the end mission

[storm jungle]

My friends who i was coop'ing with were complaining about it yeah lmao

[forest orbit]

its cool to see them shoot airborne nids but like man it lags

[storm jungle]

Its not that random tbh

its digging equipment

they needed something

[crystal forum]

they could have used the genestealer toyota truck

[storm jungle]

Thats more middle-ground

Hades fits better

[forest orbit]

Please no

[crystal forum]

or the termite

[forest orbit]

i dont need more "when GSC" in SM2 either

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[crystal forum]

it's just a civilian truck lol

[storm jungle]

You say this, you should see how people reacted seeing the GSC trucks in the carnival

god i hate it

"ITS GSC GUYS"

Its like seeing a toyota pickup truck and saying "wow there must be taliban nearby!"

[crystal forum]

or whatever the fuck this is

[storm jungle]

uhhh

cock joke

im too lazy to make one

[crystal forum]

i love how GW just posts straight up CAD models

[queen laurel]

Holc let me get all my racist jokes catalog i need to match this

[celest dome]

Reall lore nerds know that we're the GSC due to the axe and Autopistol we've got

[storm jungle]

Truuuuue

the game has too much miniature bits/blobs i love it

[celest dome]

But no FS doesn't care about warhammer

[crystal forum]

is it just me or is there an unreasonable amount of mining vehicles on tabletop

all FW slop too

[celest dome]

Mining is one of the only explored civilian industry, so yes

[crystal forum]

except the GSC one

[storm jungle]

what Cacti said

it makes sense tbh

the Imperium is extremely industrial

[crystal forum]

FUCK and we still dont have a single proper votann mining truck

[storm jungle]

HEY

We got uhhh

little mining bots

thats something right

[crystal forum]

the space RV

[storm jungle]

no its a robot

you fuckhead

LET ME FINISH

[celest dome]

I dislike the Votann vehicle

[storm jungle]

yeah NASApunk is not really my thing

[crystal forum]

i dont understand what GW is going for

[storm jungle]

NASApunk

[celest dome]

The Ironhead Prospector on the other hand

[storm jungle]

Ironheads are peak

so many people love them its great

and they arent mainline 40k and belong to Necromunda so no wonder

[crystal forum]

somebody posted an old mechanicus (?) mining vehicle that would fit votann so well

i dont remember

[dusk patrol]

Well if you figure it out let them know

[queen laurel]

Gw when it comes to cooking models that don't belong tomainline warhammer 40k tabletop

[dusk patrol]

They don’t either

[storm jungle]

Theres a few good mainline ones

but the side shit is peak

Munda is just such a good range

[dusk patrol]

There’s tons, people just always bring up desolators or Coatez

[storm jungle]

I mean

[celest dome]

Triaros

[storm jungle]

kinda but not really

[dusk patrol]

They’ve been insanely solid for years now

Yes really

[storm jungle]

"ınsanely solid" is a bit overblowing it

[crystal forum]

nah it's white and an old model

[storm jungle]

not really

[dusk patrol]

It’s not

[storm jungle]

Anyway im not gonna argue this with like

[crystal forum]

it has a big brassy bulv of a cockpit

[storm jungle]

a space marine fan

[dusk patrol]

Find me all these terrible models

[storm jungle]

so shoo

[dusk patrol]

No

[storm jungle]

Yes

[celest dome]

Karacnos

[storm jungle]

wait

[crystal forum]

not that vehicle

it's round

[storm jungle]

are those mining vehicles?

i always wondered what they were

lmao

[crystal forum]

APC

[storm jungle]

Fucking yee yee ass hairbrush front

[storm jungle]

Aw damn it

[celest dome]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:Mechanicum

[queen laurel]

S*** looks like a train

[storm jungle]

Trains are good

so this works

[rose thorn]

Someone on Reddit converted the lion into a grey knight

[dusk patrol]

Dark Angels refresh was peak, new Eldar are great, Krieg are great, Kroot, Blood Angels, new Guard, Tyranids, and so on.

[storm jungle]

LEMME SEE

[queen laurel]

Come on let me see

[rose thorn]

It’s kinda perfect

[humble shoal]

I want an underbarrel plasma thrower for my plasma gun

[storm jungle]

Okay yeah thats good

[dusk patrol]

There’s some I don’t care for like Sanguinary guard but mostly it’s been great

[queen laurel]

Damn this is smooth

[storm jungle]

I prefer minis with more exoticness than just mainline shit so ill pass

[celest dome]

That's where the Plasma Caliver shoot from normaly...

[storm jungle]

as ever Chadmunda first

[rose thorn]

Idk what you would run lion the greyknight as tho

[celest dome]

From last year
It doesn't look greaet

[rose thorn]

Since grey knights can’t take any primarch

[storm jungle]

Its fine

[rose thorn]

THANK YOU

[storm jungle]

its a space marine terminator

[humble shoal]

..... alpharius

[dusk patrol]

I don’t care for plenty of models, me not liking it personally doesn’t mean it’s bad, it’s just not my thing.

I can acknowledge things as being good despite my tastes and preferences

[storm jungle]

Okay cool

[rose thorn]

His helmet jawline is so weird

[storm jungle]

Call me up when mainline 40k has a pimp trader selling exotic aliens babe

[rose thorn]

Necromunda economics

[storm jungle]

Munda grindset cannot stop winning

[dusk patrol]

They don’t need it cause that’s not what it’s going for

We don’t need to say things are shit because it’s not one thing

[storm jungle]

Next news

the sky is blue

[rose thorn]

I’m 90% sure it doenst have a helmeted option, I really hate the head but like everything else

[dusk patrol]

I mean it is news apparently since you can’t seem to do that

[storm jungle]

Them going for what the main target aesthetic is doesnt really negate anything.

So again, pointing out obvious stuff doesnt really help you rcase.

[dusk patrol]

They’re doing different things and that’s good

[storm jungle]

Ehhh

so and so

[sly ivy]

Y so true

[forest orbit]

I too love clapping when GW release another praetor

[dusk patrol]

It’s ok to just say yes to things

[storm jungle]

Its ok to also like and dislike things

learn to not generalise everything so much

[dusk patrol]

If it’s a good praetor then yeah I’m happy for whoever got it

[forest orbit]

is this another argument

[storm jungle]

yeah, alas

[dusk patrol]

There’s some I haven’t liked but mostly of the legion specific ones have been dope

[forest orbit]

what is he getting upset over this time lol

[queen laurel]

He has activated his argument matrix cores again

[crystal forum]

i cant find it

[storm jungle]

LOL

[crystal forum]

somebody posted it here

i swear

[celest dome]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:_Adeptus_Mechanicus

For the 40k ones

[forest orbit]

This is where hes gonna say "you guys are always wrong and im right"

[dusk patrol]

Yes yes ignore the actual points and obfuscate away

[forest orbit]

there it is

[queen laurel]

I don't know i just made a joke about warhammer 40k main line models being bad even though it's just a joke and suddenly he was

[forest orbit]

actual NPC

[queen laurel]

There it is the eternal reward special you guys just ignore me

[dusk patrol]

Yes and then Eli makes snide remarks without actually saying anything

[crystal forum]

do you have the guard list because im starting to think it was guard

[forest orbit]

Yes eternal make snide remarks while also always generalising and never really saying any good point

[dusk patrol]

And then you don’t actually have to acknowledge you’re being toxic

[storm jungle]

I mean

he is but also so are you

[dusk patrol]

I’m talking to both of you

[celest dome]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:_Astra_Militarum
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:_Solar_Auxilia

[storm jungle]

Cool, i dont care

[celest dome]

@crystal forum

[storm jungle]

you do it just as much pal

so again, knock it off

[dusk patrol]

Where?

[forest orbit]

Pretty much every time you argue in here

[queen laurel]

There it is bingo

[dusk patrol]

I’m saying we don’t need to shit on stuff all the time

[forest orbit]

I'll take the blame but you are about as worse

[queen laurel]

The where the where gentleman the where

[crystal forum]

FOUND IT

[queen laurel]

Classic that one

[storm jungle]

THATS A FUCKING VOTANN VEHICLE

JAY IM GONNA KILL YOU

[celest dome]

That's ironhead prospector...

[storm jungle]

Cacti, shoot him

[queen laurel]

Jay

Please

[celest dome]

Well on a technicality he isn't wrong

[crystal forum]

i confused it with this one

[queen laurel]

You're making yourself look like a creature

[forest orbit]

Jay pls

actually no thats a normal thing to confuse though

[crystal forum]

cmon they look super similar

[forest orbit]

yeah i agree but still

[celest dome]

Macrocarid Explorator

[queen laurel]

Okay i will give you this one

[dusk patrol]

That’s racist

[forest orbit]

bailiff, execute him

[rose thorn]

[queen laurel]

I'm sorry sir

[celest dome]

Honestly, not really

[queen laurel]

We cannot because when we try to he just runs away in the vents

[dusk patrol]

Superficially

[rose thorn]

They released really close to each other

[dusk patrol]

I look inside the vehicle

[rose thorn]

I understand the mix up

[dusk patrol]

It’s the machine spirit that counts

[crystal forum]

anyways that votann vehicle is what all the votann vehicles should look like

it has immaculate vibe

[celest dome]

Yet

It's not one

[storm jungle]

Jay

[celest dome]

[storm jungle]

answer me this

[crystal forum]

ye

[storm jungle]

do you know much about Ironhead Prospectors

[rose thorn]

Squats and votaan have different vibes

[dusk patrol]

It’s ok, I like Ironheads but that vehicle isn’t it for me

[storm jungle]

If so uh

[crystal forum]

no

[rose thorn]

Valid

[storm jungle]

Well then

[dusk patrol]

I don’t think if you added that to LoV it would change a lot, it reminds me of their stuff already

And unfortunately that’s not a good thing imo

[arctic talon]

The macrocarid is older

Then the ironhead squad one

[storm jungle]

https://www.warhammer.com/en-WW/plp?search=Ironhead

[arctic talon]

Like t a few years

[storm jungle]

start taking a look

[celest dome]

Those are fitting already, the hover Trickes I'm not a fan of

[arctic talon]

The hover trikes are whatever

[dusk patrol]

Didn’t they do a new release?

[crystal forum]

i did read the lexi page but it's not a lot of info

[arctic talon]

No, it’s been OOP for years

[storm jungle]

Yeah uh

[arctic talon]

And I hate it

[storm jungle]

their codex JUST released like a week ago

[arctic talon]

I wanted to like

[dusk patrol]

Shame

[storm jungle]

thats where they are gonna get their lore from atm

[arctic talon]

Make a diorama at one point with it

[celest dome]

You're thinking of the Triaros

[arctic talon]

But I just decided that it’s not worth it

[dusk patrol]

I expect we might get a newer one soon

[queen laurel]

Aight chat do we just do this to @crystal forum

https://youtu.be/oXOQk69lGq4?si=dwdaB-sfyCGOwycf

[crystal forum]

just doesnt scream very industrial to me

[arctic talon]

The kit was a nightmare by resin standards

[dusk patrol]

[storm jungle]

thats the thing

its not industrial

its not suppose to be

its where the Ironheads come in

(who everyone loves)

[forest orbit]

Because Munda?

[crystal forum]

i always thought votann had that high tech industrial look

[storm jungle]

Because Munda.

[forest orbit]

figures

[celest dome]

Cause Necromunda

[forest orbit]

Ive seen an unhealthy amount of people prefer them over the votann

so its not even funny

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[forest orbit]

I kinda get it but its very mean

[arctic talon]

the Votann are like

[dusk patrol]

They have Lego Mission to Mars Chic

[arctic talon]

weird asthetically

its not bad at all

[forest orbit]

aw come on man

[arctic talon]

but its very very very different lol

[storm jungle]

No mercy

[celest dome]

SM but not SM

[arctic talon]

No Eternal is correct lol

He hit it bang on LOL

[crystal forum]

GW needs to narrow down the votann vibe a bit

[arctic talon]

They have that like

Retrofuturism bubbley look

[forest orbit]

I think what got me was the starcraft marine units they had

that is just oof

[arctic talon]

The uh

[dusk patrol]

I like about half their stuff but man the stuff I don’t like

[arctic talon]

heavy dudes?

or the light ones

[dusk patrol]

Really sticks out

[celest dome]

The 40k Slayer look so bad

[dusk patrol]

Their basic dudes though I like

[storm jungle]

the one whos name sounds like you are having a stroke?

[arctic talon]

these ones are great imo

[storm jungle]

HERGNGHKYN

[dusk patrol]

But the Cthonians yeah

[crystal forum]

the melee units look very out of place

[arctic talon]

The Cthonians are ???

[celest dome]

The Hearthkyn hunter thingy are the only one I like

[arctic talon]

why are they shirtless

Jagers?

yeah they're sick

[forest orbit]

excuse me

its Jygers

[crystal forum]

give them tank suits and laser chainsaws

[dusk patrol]

The Einhyr whatever dudes I like somewhat

I hate the uh

Little animal totem things

[arctic talon]

its yaegir

[queen laurel]

These are not it 0

[dusk patrol]

The leaders have and stuff

[arctic talon]

my bad lol

[crystal forum]

i actually like these guys

[arctic talon]

but cmon they gave the robot

[storm jungle]

should be Yygyr

[arctic talon]

a fucking Coat

its peak

[forest orbit]

Kill yourself

[crystal forum]

very cool

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[crystal forum]

wha

[storm jungle]

do you mean Kylkyn yourself

[arctic talon]

its drip or drown

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

Wow black time flower easy there don't fall in with the stereotypes

[storm jungle]

No he has a point

i did too much

[arctic talon]

and by god he's floating with the ducks

[storm jungle]

[forest orbit]

guh-

[crystal forum]

wild how just adding a fur coat does this

[celest dome]

Only reason I want to see a Squat archetype

[dusk patrol]

Hearth guard I like when they have helmets

[dusk patrol]

But goddamn their stupid faces

[queen laurel]

If You say so then

[arctic talon]

I really don't like hearthguard

I'm ngl

[celest dome]

To have a 3rd shovel family

[dusk patrol]

And those stupid leader totems

[arctic talon]

they look way too much like SC2 marines

[dusk patrol]

Not wrong

[forest orbit]

its his emotional digging shovel

[arctic talon]

his melee weapon is not a shovel

[dusk patrol]

But yeah LoV are

Very hit or miss for me

[arctic talon]

his melee weapon is his bare hands

Ironhead squats are good

because they don't try to do anything special

[forest orbit]

I love the one where uh

[crystal forum]

somehow less coordinated than tau range

[forest orbit]

he has fucking future knuckledusters

that is peak

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah

[crystal forum]

at least you understand what tau are about by their looks

[arctic talon]

the fucking Salvager team lol

[storm jungle]

Salvage is right alright 💀

[arctic talon]

They also don't have any unique guns

to themselves lol

[celest dome]

What's his shovel for then

[dusk patrol]

I think LoV suffer hard from them not wanting them to be super analogous to Dwarves from Fantasy

[storm jungle]

To kill krieg fans with

i assume

[arctic talon]

mines

And by god

his mines fucking hurt

[forest orbit]

do they yearn for the mines

[arctic talon]

I LOVE INSTANTLY KILLING MARINES

[crystal forum]

why do they add beserkers that could literally be used in aos then

[arctic talon]

marine steps on landmine

it does 25 damage

[storm jungle]

because people like berserkers

[arctic talon]

what did GW mean by this

[storm jungle]

and melee

also 40k

[arctic talon]

People like melee

also ngl

[dusk patrol]

I dunno, I honestly don’t think there was a lot of passion behind making them

[forest orbit]

Explosions hurt

[crystal forum]

at least make them sci fi berserkers

[arctic talon]

I would have prefered an armored melee unit

lol

[storm jungle]

they did

[arctic talon]

Not like

shirtless dudes

[storm jungle]

they got pipes and cables

thats sci-fi right

[arctic talon]

Fast(for a dwarf)

[dusk patrol]

Like legit I think half their issue is they decided to make them but the design team wasn’t super invested

And didn’t know what to go for

[celest dome]

40k Slayer should have had some sort of jetpack

[forest orbit]

Ah yes

the world eater grindset

i respect it

[dusk patrol]

But I’m glad they make some people happy

[arctic talon]

I do think that they're starting to like

[gray umbra]

World eater grindset is truth

[storm jungle]

"Some" is being generous

[arctic talon]

nail what people like

[storm jungle]

but yeah

[crystal forum]

fully armoured except the arms like doom slayer

[dusk patrol]

I don’t care for them personally

[arctic talon]

about them lol

[celest dome]

The faster you are, the faster you get to punch stuff

[arctic talon]

With the salvagers at least

and the Jaegirs

[forest orbit]

Salvagers are great

but uh yeah

[arctic talon]

Like they figured out what "clicked"

god please

GW don't let them die

[dusk patrol]

I’m looking forward to the coming years

[queen laurel]

Yeah but the bigger you are you punch harder and don't need all that speed crap

[forest orbit]

Also doesnt Jes Goodwin design like most of these as far as we know

[arctic talon]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Kinda

[arctic talon]

well

[storm jungle]

he does 90% of most ranges

[dusk patrol]

15 Guard Killteams from now

[storm jungle]

but we usually cannot know

[arctic talon]

He retired last year

[dusk patrol]

Roughly

[storm jungle]

unless they publicly release sketches

[arctic talon]

We know he still has

a lot

[storm jungle]

WHAT

[arctic talon]

of stuff slated for release

[storm jungle]

NO

[arctic talon]

LET HIM REST

[storm jungle]

40k has fallen

[arctic talon]

HE STILL WORKS FOR GW

just not like

[crystal forum]

one guy does nearly all 40k models?

[arctic talon]

24/7

[storm jungle]

HE WORKED FOR 30 YEARS HE CAN WORK MORE

[arctic talon]

concept sketching

[dusk patrol]

He’s definitely still gonna be working on stuff

[arctic talon]

not the actual modeling

[queen laurel]

No we must enslave him for his talent

So that he can keep making bangers

[storm jungle]

Goodwin is behind like

[dusk patrol]

He’s just not the official lead

[arctic talon]

He designed every primaris unit

LOL

[storm jungle]

almost ALL the factions identity

[arctic talon]

like not even a joke

[storm jungle]

he literally carried this IP lol

well modelwise anyway

[dapper gyro]

Hmm, some of these Votann armours look like the SC2 marines armour.

[arctic talon]

Jes said he's incredibly proud of the Primaris designs

[storm jungle]

I got all his sketchbooks

[arctic talon]

which

[crystal forum]

bruh he's not the final say thought right? concept sketching is just making what a team asks

[arctic talon]

well

to an extent

[forest orbit]

the problem with this is

[arctic talon]

Idk I disagree with his choices

[forest orbit]

yeah lol

[arctic talon]

on some of the design elements lol

[dusk patrol]

So it’s Jes who hates the wing jetpacks on Sanguinary guard

[arctic talon]

Idk

[forest orbit]

I like the armor

[arctic talon]

maybe

[forest orbit]

thats it