It’s a crime people suggested his books as people’s first warhammer books
#40k-lore-chat
rose thorn
forest orbit
Yeah thats a bit much
spare osprey
I don’t know if it’s limited by if they were there, just if they could be.
forest orbit
I think Eisen is not the best series to start personally either but hm
spare osprey
I don’t know if it’s limited by if they were there, just if they could be.
Cause otherwise almost every character is unusable
storm jungle
Theres definitely some better options
dusk patrol
I don’t know if it’s limited by if they were there, just if they could be.
Thats kinda the point I think
storm jungle
but his stuff explores the galaxy the most
shadow plover
Eisenhorn will always be balling
forest orbit
Yeah its why I like the series
dusk patrol
It limits the characters you can use
forest orbit
rose thorn
You could make a story with those two named ratlings in the diorama
shadow plover
he's probably lost those already so wouldn't do anything to him
dusk patrol
Schaeffer is an option
forest orbit
Oh yeah
rose thorn
I imagine it’s just bevis and butthead with food and warcrimes
storm jungle
the regiment with the native american dude
A product of its time
forest orbit
dusk patrol
Schaeffer talks with Dante
forest orbit
I imagine it’s just bevis and butthead with food and warcrimes
It is.
Not in a bad way
i think
storm jungle
dusk patrol
Last Chancers is great
storm jungle
Its okay
dusk patrol
Its a very fun Dirty Dozen style series
rose thorn
I can’t wait to see people Flanderise characters worst than GW had
dusk patrol
Are we just throwing out words now
summer mural
are custodes dreadnoughts the real friends we made along the way
storm jungle
are custodes dreadnoughts the real friends we made along the way
I wish.
storm jungle
Are we just throwing out words now
Shut up eternal
summer mural
whats the nicest mortal realm to live in, excluding azyr
storm jungle
That includes you
rose thorn
whats the nicest mortal realm to live in, excluding azyr
Uh, they are all terrible
storm jungle
so i agree
rose thorn
Ghyran use to be the least corrupt but skaven teleported a shit load of nurgle into it
storm jungle
like the core realm of Sigmar is not "bad" but theres still classic medieval grimdarkism
rose thorn
And took over like half of the realm
storm jungle
if its not supernatural forces killing you its probably some homeless thief
summer mural
the portal between realm things is kinda wierd, are all of them found and have a giant fortress guarding them
storm jungle
Most do
rose thorn
the portal between realm things is kinda wierd, are all of them found and have a...
There’s so many that haven’t been found
queen laurel
Ghyran use to be the least corrupt but skaven teleported a shit load of nurgle i...
And now the literal god of earthquakes is just walking around in it
storm jungle
Yeah its like the webway portal logic, they can kinda pop up anywhere but the largest ones are usually the most guarded
they are extremely important for mass-travel over the realms
summer mural
right, the webway
queen laurel
Seriously how ghyrian still standing
rose thorn
A bunch were destroyed in broken realms because tzeentch hot wired them to go to hell
queen laurel
What the heck is the eight points again
summer mural
also, apparently the realms do have actual edges where you disintegrate into nothingness, so you cant go to space right?
storm jungle
Yeah you cant
rose thorn
What the heck is the eight points again
Use to be where all the realms connects
dusk patrol
What the heck is the eight points again
storm jungle
since the core realms are where all "life" has congregated towards
rose thorn
also, apparently the realms do have actual edges where you disintegrate into not...
The farther you go into a realm the more intense magic is
queen laurel
Use to be where all the realms connects
Now it's basically the main place where chaos just spawns in the realms
If i'm correct right
rose thorn
Eventually when you reach the end you will suffer a horrible horrible fate
forest orbit
Man this is some nuts lore
dusk patrol
dusk patrol
summer mural
im almost done with chaosgate too, the game just refuses to end
rose thorn
The Ghyran one was closed down but I think got reopened by nurgle?
summer mural
yesnt
rose thorn
Seal the gate of a azyr
Yeah
storm jungle
im almost done with chaosgate too, the game just refuses to end
Accurate summary of the game
rose thorn
Completely sealed
queen laurel
Yeah
So that's why chaos still can't get to the heavenly realm of azyr they might have access to every realm but not the realm of the thunder god
rose thorn
Yeah
dusk patrol
The Realmgate wars was Orders attempt to retake the gates and Eightpoints
It didn't work, so a lot were sealed.
rose thorn
Then skaven invented teleportation for the 5th time
summer mural
how do the dispossed not have their own dawi empire by now
rose thorn
And now chaos is telefragging shyish
queen laurel
Then skaven invented teleportation for the 5th time
Ah yes making burrows in reality
rose thorn
how do the dispossed not have their own dawi empire by now
Because their way like
Didn’t work lmao
queen laurel
And now chaos is telefragging shyish
Ghur i would say is one of the safer realms from chaos still
rose thorn
That’s why they almost went extinct
queen laurel
Mainly because the literal f****** realm itself eats you
summer mural
Because their way like
Didn’t work lmao
queen laurel
And wants to kill you
summer mural
I like the other two dwarf factions quite a bit
rose thorn
Hiding in a hole to wait out the apocalypse made them very good snacks
rose thorn
I like the other two dwarf factions quite a bit
Fyreslayers just decided to murder everything and that’s how the survived the apocalypse
queen laurel
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
The two most successful are literally proactive and go out of their way to be active in the realms being the fire slayers and the ones that abandoned their ways of old being the kadron
rose thorn
And the Kharadrons went like
summer mural
the fireslayers need some variety, every model is just a red haired bearded naked dwarf doing something with axes, but I like the faction
queen laurel
F*** tradition
queen laurel
the fireslayers need some variety, every model is just a red haired bearded nake...
It's more like a warhammer problem really
Similarities of an over again
I'm a simple guy so i don't mind but i can understand
summer mural
I think they have a low count of total models available too
compared to like stormcast, which is understandable but yknow
rose thorn
I think they have a low count of total models available too
They are really fleshed out actually
Fyreslayers was one of the first factions
queen laurel
https://tenor.com/view/tim-curry-premiere-chardenko-red-alert3-ra3-gif-17117801
Dude a warhammer fantasy longbeared dwarf would have a stroke seeing what an average Khadaron overlord does
rose thorn
Dude a warhammer fantasy longbeared dwarf would have a stroke seeing what an ave...
If you are poor, You shave your beard
If you are rich
summer mural
i havent gotten into the kharadron yet, I just saw they live in the skies with magic floating gold and like capitalism over religion
rose thorn
You get a long beard
rose thorn
i havent gotten into the kharadron yet, I just saw they live in the skies with m...
Yes
They also accidentally called a wage gap so huge it caused tzeentch to invade the realms
summer mural
their tech seems very advanced in large scale for dwarves though, seems like skaven levels of steampunkery
rose thorn
their tech seems very advanced in large scale for dwarves though, seems like ska...
I forgot what factions were you interested in?
summer mural
in aos?
queen laurel
their tech seems very advanced in large scale for dwarves though, seems like ska...
They are the most advanced in the realms and if not they rival clan Skyre
They have literal fleets of airships
Capable of bombardment and
sly ivy
Did I see a diagram of the mortal realms what is this nonsense
queen laurel
Even the lowest of their soldiers have powerful armor
summer mural
the roman undead guys that like nagash, the dwarves, and I like the deepkin too
queen laurel
the roman undead guys that like nagash, the dwarves, and I like the deepkin too
Okay so the fish elves the ossiarch and
What kind of dwarf
If you're talking about the disposes then they are minimally in the city is of sigmar
rose thorn
the roman undead guys that like nagash, the dwarves, and I like the deepkin too
KO are probably one of the most beginner friendly factions in the game
queen laurel
So Fyreslayers or Kharadron Overlords
rose thorn
Dispossessed are getting a refresh so sleep on them for a bit
queen laurel
Which one do you want
queen laurel
Dispossessed are getting a refresh so sleep on them for a bit
They are also i will just say not really the ones that offer knew perspectives and new stuff because they are literally the oldest dwarves
sly ivy
the realms are literally floating in empty space
Pocket universe
summer mural
well I used to like the good ol united dwarves from fantasy, I havent made up my mind on which aos dwarves yet
fyreslayer models definitely hit that dopamine though
queen laurel
They come from the previous setting after all
sly ivy
Created by the old ones which they just do as a hobby apparently
storm jungle
Pocket universe
They arent a pocket universe
sly ivy
The realms??
rose thorn
well I used to like the good ol united dwarves from fantasy, I havent made up my...
There is a army of renown in a WD that united all of the dwarves
queen laurel
Yeah they are like the flat earth theory
storm jungle
Yes???
queen laurel
Funnily enough
storm jungle
they are realms
rose thorn
You need the WD model tho
summer mural
do the fyreslayers have like leadership or are they all just pockets of mercs
sly ivy
They are heavily implied to be.
rose thorn
do the fyreslayers have like leadership or are they all just pockets of mercs
Oh they ahve a very deep and complex structure
queen laurel
do the fyreslayers have like leadership or are they all just pockets of mercs
They have entire mountain forts yeah
And they have leaders
summer mural
oh damn, I gotta read up on em
rose thorn
They have entire mountain forts yeah
Forts? They are literal countries
summer mural
ungrim is gone im assuming 
queen laurel
Forts? They are literal countries
Yeah inside the f****** mountain
Straight up
Mountain countries the bastards
summer mural
is the slayer oath still a thing
queen laurel
ungrim is gone im assuming <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
A lodge is usually ruled by a runefather
dusk patrol
All factions have large areas they gather and leaders of large amounts and all that.
As well as smaller ones
summer mural
A lodge is usually ruled by a runefather
goddamn, thats like ungrims daily wet dream
queen laurel
is the slayer oath still a thing
Yes but now slayers are called doom seekers
rose thorn
goddamn, thats like ungrims daily wet dream
The entire faction looks like this it’s great
summer mural
that dwarf is using hair as armor
dusk patrol
They use runes and stuff
rose thorn
They use pieces of their dead god to hammer into their skin
dusk patrol
Embedded in their skin.
rose thorn
For MAGIC CRACK!!
storm jungle
Also magma-diapers
dusk patrol
Makes them stronger, tougher, all that.
summer mural
yeah I know grimnir exploded and turned into gold bits which the fireslayers collect
also they changed valaya's name for some reason but all the other dawi gods are the same as from fantasy
rocky gale
Never forget the time fyreslayers opened the gates of Lethis during a siege because they didn’t get paid enough by the defenders
storm jungle
also they changed valaya's name for some reason but all the other dawi gods are ...
Prob copyright or some shit
storm jungle
Never forget the time fyreslayers opened the gates of Lethis during a siege beca...
BASED
queen laurel
that dwarf is using hair *as* armor
And if they're especially one of a kind or awesome they ride upon, Magamdroths, giant volcanic salamanders that can melt just about everything with their fiery breath, claws and teeth
sly ivy
The end of the Old World came when a warp gate under middenheim was opened and a everything got sucked in. Not exploded — sucked in. Source: lord of the end times novel
Meanwhile we have Giantslayer that explores the paths of the old ones which are obviously webway type things, and Teclis specifically sees bubble universes in there.
And now we have the realms, which are…. somewhere stated to be a different reality from the more prosaic cosmos of the Old World (core book).
And also the realmgates etc are basically stated to be Old One creations. Source: core book, seraphon books.
So there’s some kind of Old One bubbleverse thing going on.
That is all. It maybe will never be explored or whatever.
storm jungle
The end of the Old World came when a warp gate under middenheim was opened and a...
None of these really matter when the writers just do what they want
FYI
summer mural
the entirety of aos probably takes place in the 20 min dream of a sleeping god, like skyrim
storm jungle
sly ivy
None of these really matter when the writers just do what they want
Nahhh there’s a bit of a cosmos
queen laurel
the entirety of aos probably takes place in the 20 min dream of a sleeping god, ...
Nah
storm jungle
Nahhh there’s a bit of a cosmos
YEAH I JUST SAID THAT BEFORE
queen laurel
It's just the realms being funny
storm jungle
ARGHHHH
sly ivy
It’s pretty free form
storm jungle
Im gonna drone strike your ass i swear
sly ivy
But I think they are vaguely implying some webway / bubbleverse type shenanigans
rocky gale
Funniest part is the city was under siege by Nagash and undead, they got in due to betrayal by the fyreslayers but the city was saved when a Flesh eater Court showed up thinking they were noble knights and saved the city from the vile undead
summer mural
seraphon seem the most boring to me lorewise so far
sly ivy
wtf we have the drones u bloody turk
storm jungle
wtf we have the drones u bloody turk
storm jungle
seraphon seem the most boring to me lorewise so far
thats a very universal take yeah
they are just lizardmen from WHF still
queen laurel
seraphon seem the most boring to me lorewise so far
You're telling me heavenly aztec dinosaur lizards powered by the heaven themselves are boring?
Man you have no taste
summer mural
apparently they actually kick ass in battle and lore so far
sly ivy
seraphon seem the most boring to me lorewise so far
Ass heretical take
summer mural
You're telling me heavenly aztec dinosaur lizards powered by the heaven themselv...
yeah but thats just old lizardmen
summer mural
old lizardmen had kroak and lizard moses and kroq gar and heavenly orbital artillery
and autistic walking crocodiles
sly ivy
I love lizard moses
summer mural
they also had oxyotl who has one of the best premises for a lizardmen character ive ever seen
sly ivy
Also Moses was savage af if u look just like Tehenwhatsit
queen laurel
old lizardmen had kroak and lizard moses and kroq gar and heavenly orbital artil...
Yeah that's they are separated in two types of lizard man the Coalesced which are old lizard man
And the star born
They literally live in the heavens
dusk patrol
I liked it better when they had names like Tiktaq'to
summer mural
in aos?
dusk patrol
Now its all serious stuff smh
queen laurel
in aos?
Yes
You have the Coalesced which are the basic lizard man
And the starborn
summer mural
Il check out lizardmen after I finish reading the lumineth
I like the daughters of khaine models, but so far idoneth lore is the one I like for the pointy ears
dusk patrol
Kroak is safe though so thats all that matters
storm jungle
Idoneth are extremely based
they are like more morally understandable dark eldar which is funny
summer mural
also they are a group of elves who collectively fucked over teclis, thats based af
storm jungle
they are on that Megalodon grindset
rocky gale
Now its all serious stuff smh
Chaos lords used to have cool names like Harry the hammer and Barry the Bummer, now they’ve got serious names that sound like a brand of soap like “Abraxia”
summer mural
" I created you, now we will live together in etern-"
" FUCK YOU TECLIS I WANT TO LIVE IN THE OCEAN"
queen laurel
they are on that Megalodon grindset
The idoneth watching as a kraken eater beat to death the giant sea kraken they have
summer mural
are the idoneth still secret i assume not
summer mural
like everyone knows having a soul and walking by the beach in the mortal realms is extremely fatal
queen laurel
like everyone knows having a soul and walking by the beach in the mortal realms ...
Yeah but where are you going to get fish
A swamp anf a river can only have so much
rocky gale
like everyone knows having a soul and walking by the beach in the mortal realms ...
Here they’re not all bad, many Idoneth died trying to save Lethis
summer mural
oh I just realized, a giant battle between the flaming dwarves and the water elves would be dope af
queen laurel
Yeah they are like morally gray
And finally enough out of the three elves
They are the nicest
The lumineth are neo nazis
And the daughters of khaine
I do not need to elaborate
summer mural
also its nice that lumineth can literally live on land forever if they want to, like I always hated the gills thing for underwater civilizations
rocky gale
And the daughters of khaine
Here they just need a little blood, why you gatekeeeping all your blood
winter vessel
so that return to Cadia teaser gave me a ‘dead space’ vibe
queen laurel
Here they just need a little blood, why you gatekeeeping all your blood
Because i want them to be inside my body not outside
storm jungle
*so* that return to Cadia teaser gave me a ‘dead space’ vibe
Just missing someone calmly bashing their head to a wall
tho not a fan of the CSM reveal
queen laurel
tho not a fan of the CSM reveal
Wait there chaos marines in the cadia chunk
winter vessel
tho not a fan of the CSM reveal
“Make us whole…” I honestly thought the silhouette was an Ork
rocky gale
Because i want them to be inside my body not outside
You want Daughters of Khaine inside you?
summer mural
ah yes, cadia, the planet everyone wanted to return to
green loom
Ye it's basic CSM
humble shoal
Nah this is a CSM deffo
Nah its space sans
green loom
he also doesn't have the gigagorgette
winter vessel
Nah this is a CSM deffo
It’s actually
dusk patrol
rocky gale
I assume, the short might answer those questions
No I require context now otherwise bad story
winter vessel
But thank the creator it doesn’t look like the cheap ass 2d animation the rest of the Hammer and bolter animations were
dusk patrol
I DONT KNOW MOM WE'RE WATCHING THE SAME MOVIE AND IT JUST STARTED
rocky gale
Is he allowed in there?
dusk patrol
Maybe if we keep watching it'll be explained
storm jungle
I assume, the short might answer those questions
get these stupid space marines out of my human stories
🧹
dusk patrol
queen laurel
Yeah like why would there be a single a** marine in the chunk of a broken planet
storm jungle
We'll find out why i guess
winter vessel
It’s like finding a squatter in your basement who moved in after you left your home for twenty years
dusk patrol
Well, its possible
dusk patrol
That it will be explained
storm jungle
lets see
queen laurel
It's just confusing
storm jungle
gonna bet on Chaos Mcguffin
rocky gale
Maybe he lives there
storm jungle
LOL
queen laurel
Chaos mcguffin
dusk patrol
Left behind maybe
winter vessel
Maybe he lives there
He found the deed to the planet
storm jungle
Left behind maybe
that would actually be a great explanation
he just entered deep sleep to wait
rocky gale
He’s got squatters rights
storm jungle
Maybe hes a loyalist who turned bad
Where did he find the horns
was there a merchant
dusk patrol
And they're hallucinating
dusk patrol
Where did he find the horns
In your moms bedside drawer
dusk patrol
Not anymore
storm jungle
winter vessel
It was actually Balthazar Gelt residing in the chunk the whole time
winter vessel
“I am supreme!” Turns ship into gold that becomes lead
summer mural
its probably cain cosplaying with some old chaos marine gear to jumpscare the guardsmen
winter vessel
If it’s a CSM, it’s probably just your run of the mill Chaos Undivided schmoe. Or as I like to call it Gordon Ramsay’s voice “this is bland”
dusk patrol
His armor is red
storm jungle
is it
dusk patrol
So maybe Word Bearers
storm jungle
I only see a red stripe on the helmet
winter vessel
So maybe Word Bearers
Oh no…door to door Mormons…
dusk patrol
You guys are all like my mom just watch the movie and it'll tell you
stop asking me
I have the same info you do
storm jungle
You guys are all like my mom *just watch the movie and it'll tell you*
its fun to speculate you knobfuck
winter vessel
If it was a Night Lord, then they be cooking like a horror flick. SHOW ME SOME SKIN FLAYING
rocky gale
I only see a red stripe on the helmet
Oh damn he’s an ultramarine lieutenant
queen laurel
Yeah learn to have some fun you bald emperor believing slab of muscle
storm jungle
Ew
queen laurel
I'm lonely but i'm not that desperate
storm jungle
LOL
dusk patrol
I believe the first half
summer mural
white scars terminator armor looks pretty sick
winter vessel
Look at these green beans strolling in like they still own the place
queen laurel
I believe the first half
Trust me i'd rather eat a bullet to the brain than try my chances with you of all people
summer mural
theres like 6 of them, thats not gonna end well
sharp pollen
Look at these green beans strolling in like they still own the place
am i tripping or the shoulders are a bit too wide
storm jungle
almost
vagrant fox
Trust me i'd rather eat a bullet to the brain than try my chances with you of al...
Despite the fact that I'm a sexy, willing bachelor?
storm jungle
remember its awkward do these being based on minis
they sometimes look like literal toys
sharp pollen
or cadians are just ripped af
dusk patrol
I feel like bullet to the brain isn't as low on your list of desires as it should be to make that insulting.
winter vessel
theres like 6 of them, thats not gonna end well
Ik balaclava dude in the back left is going to die since he doesn’t have a “face plot armor for five minutes”
dusk patrol
white scars terminator armor looks pretty sick
I like their heresy guys
storm jungle
Eternal just suck his dick already and stop flirting with him
this is getting tense
dusk patrol
No, I need dinner and foreplay.
storm jungle
Put that metal mouth of yours to use
summer mural
I like their heresy guys
same , the mongol accents and the red is awesome
dusk patrol
The Ebon Keshig
summer mural
i guess they still cant ride their bikes in terminator armor
winter vessel
same , the mongol accents and the red is awesome
Star Wars Fallen Order intro music starts playing
dusk patrol
Originally GW said they weren't gonna make new models for th legio specific units like Ebon Keshig, Gorgon Termies and so on.
sharp pollen
im having a shooting pain inside my ear, what kind of nurgle desease is this?
dusk patrol
But they've since said they're looking into it
So hopefully we might get to see them in new termie scale here.
summer mural
well, iron warriors dont have terminator astartes do they
dusk patrol
They do
summer mural
didnt perty just make literal robots in terminator armor
summer mural
iron warriors would make a nice enemy to fight against in more games
dusk patrol
These things are gone or are they still like
We don't know, I'd assume Perty still has his guard
Probably corrupted now.
summer mural
iron warriors with undivided corruption feel wierd
winter vessel
Ah, my favorite traitor astartes faction
dusk patrol
Meanwhile Iron Warriors fans: "They're totally not corrupted and hate Chaos guys!"
dusk patrol
Not all, but some
Tbh its a lot of surface level fans
Same dorks who think that Perturabo shouldn't have fallen and it doesn't make sense.
winter vessel
I like em because they represent the cold and harsh aspect of Warfare. Brutal, efficient, and costly. Without the necessity of the four chaos college dorm roommates.
summer mural
we dont have a canon perty visual after he fell do we
summer mural
hes probably just a giant chaos knight now or something
storm jungle
really? iron w fans bat for them being good guys?
Its less them being "good guys" and more just boasting they arent fully into chaos and "deny" it like gigachads even though literally every chaos faction is devoted to said Gods themselves.
the most delusional faction stans will always be Imperials but chaos fans usually are just annoying more than anything, most are pretty chill
Night Lords fans no comment 
summer mural
night lords must be literally just irritating to fight
winter vessel
But yeah, Iron Warriors. they’re not any better than their traitor cousins. Oh they’re not the ones who go into a blood frenzy? IW are still bad. They don’t have every disease known to existence and want to share this? IW are still bad. They don’t wear purple and snort someone’s ashes like they’re doing a line? IW are still bad.
summer mural
walking down a hallway in a space hulk and nightlords just keep scaring your squad of termies
dusk patrol
People just have this weird fixation on being chaos but not being corrupted.
summer mural
LOL
storm jungle
AM I WRONG
winter vessel
I don’t even know what they’re trying to do with em
summer mural
alpha legion is not meant to be taken seriously is it?
storm jungle
also FYI I say "fans" as in like those surface meme level idiots
dusk patrol
There's plenty of annoying ones
storm jungle
alpha legion is not meant to be taken seriously is it?
Kind of
dusk patrol
Mostly its just people who don't read anything
queen laurel
Every faction has plenty of annoying fans
storm jungle
they are meant ot be enjoyed as espionage asshole astartes
dusk patrol
And the whole "But urm is Alpharius actually dead"
queen laurel
But i hate to say it but it's almost always the imperium fans that are like the consistently annoying guys
storm jungle
not fake-traitors fighting for the Imperium
dusk patrol
But yeah, you can find dorks in every faction.
storm jungle
But yeah, you can find dorks in every faction.
Still some are worse than others
theres very much a dropoff
a huge one
queen laurel
Yeah every faction has buffoons but some has more than others
dusk patrol
Tau fans wanking their faction to unbelievable levels ugh.
summer mural
nah, I dont buy the alpha legion sneaking around in giant bodies and giant power armor better than an actual assassin, but they do apparently so
winter vessel
Non-legion traitor Astartes. I think my favorite has to be the Red Corsairs. Huron went “fuck the taxman, I do what I want.” And I think he’s half insane from the damage and corruption he has to deal with
storm jungle
nah, I dont buy the alpha legion sneaking around in giant bodies and giant power...
They dont sneak around persay
queen laurel
that statement coming from a space marine fan is crazy work
summer mural
didnt they steal the emperors lunch or something
dusk patrol
I literally just got done arguing with some dork about how the Tau probably couldn't conquer the entire galaxy.
storm jungle
but its more walking into gatherings and setting up plans
summer mural
they just magically appear in places
storm jungle
or propaganda-brainwashing cultists
summer mural
like its a fuckin jedi master or something
storm jungle
LOL
Yeah good example
like you will see a lot of marine fans go
"space marines sneaking around makes total sense"
no it doesnt
but the image is funny
so its fine imo lmao
queen laurel
"space marines sneaking around makes total sense"
What the f*** do you mean the raven fucks have shadow dancing
summer mural
its so funny to picture
storm jungle
^
queen laurel
Or whatever the zog you call
winter vessel
They do the blues brothers tiptoeing
storm jungle
(not an actual cloaking thing like a clothing cloak )
dusk patrol
If I stopped enjoying stuff in 40k becuase it didn't make sense I wouldn't be into 40k.
storm jungle
God shut up
i hate this thing of like
"stop trying to make sense of 40k"
theres very much a lot more dumb things
dusk patrol
No, its that if we're gonna nitpick one thing
storm jungle
Its not nitpicking
its very much agreed to be silly
its large men in tank armor being "sneaky"
humble shoal
Cypher has a cloak
And dual wields pistols
dusk patrol
Yes, liek the entire fucking setting.
humble shoal
One plasma, one boltgun
dusk patrol
It all falls apart if you really wanna get down and dirty
storm jungle
Comparing them to every silly thing in the setting is not the point, why are you so defensive about this
dusk patrol
Which is why you don't, cause its boring
summer mural
and a sword strapped to his back
dusk patrol
Its like the people who point out that tanks in 40k aren't great designs
storm jungle
To be fair
the leman russ is literally said to be a shit tank in a 30k book
its tongue-in-cheek
humble shoal
Can't raven guard go invisible
winter vessel
its funny
Silly moment. And I never get tired of this: “an imperial world got into a civil war about the threat of a Tyranid invasion because the Ecchlesiarchy deemed that to be heretical…as the Nids were literally descending from the sky”
summer mural
i dont think all of them can?
storm jungle
Silly moment. And I never get tired of this: “an imperial world got into a civil...
Yeah, its why I find this weird obsession funny.
summer mural
i dunno actually
dusk patrol
Its said to be shit by one commander whose under the miasma of Mortarion and is in a terrible mood, in every other source it was a big part of why the loyalists manged to survive the siege.
summer mural
pretty sure literally not every raven guard can go invisible
dusk patrol
Which goes against every other source.
humble shoal
Isnt it tongue in cheek like the abrams hate
storm jungle
It is
humble shoal
storm jungle
idk why so many people were upset by it
the leman russ is very much not a good tank
its just "it does the job"
spare osprey
Space Marines sneaking is completely silly
I have a literal space built jet engine on my back, and am also a stealth unit
humble shoal
Where the nazis said the abrams was a death trap so everyone believes it
spare osprey
I have a literal space built jet engine on my back, and am also a stealth unit
It’s beautiful
summer mural
scouts are pretty well done, like space marine scouts, I can totally see them going behind someone and silently knifing them with their giant frames too
queen laurel
the leman russ is very much not a good tank
It's a mass produced battle tank for a reason
storm jungle
I have a literal space built jet engine on my back, and am also a stealth unit
Yeah its just fun
humble shoal
the leman russ is very much not a good tank
Its no baneblade
queen laurel
It's not the best but it's cheap reliable and does it's f****** job
dusk patrol
Its a character whose literally experiencing metaphysical depression and unhappiness during one of the worst battles in human history.
storm jungle
hold on i gotta get that AL excerpt
summer mural
LMAO
dusk patrol
The Leman Russ in universe is a great tank and was a big part of the loyalist win for the Heresy.
But obviously in reality its a bad design, a super silly one even.
storm jungle
Like what fucking man does this
its so fucking great
also shoutout to the arbites trying to investigate this, guys took the worse L
spare osprey
This is straight up a regular show plot
queen laurel
Like what fucking man does this
Yes snake rain
storm jungle
LEGIT
queen laurel
F****** lizard man fan
summer mural
someone tell the alpha legion theres a war going on and to get in a trench and start shooting instead of coming up with harebrained schemes and pretending be an esoteric jedi master vanishing back and from across the galaxy and uttering cryptic oneliners that dont many sense dressed in a suit of giant power armor with the helmet of an average sm grunt on
humble shoal
It was me alpharius the whole time
storm jungle
Remember guys, Alpha Legion is TOTALLY helping the Imperium
queen laurel
Remember guys, Alpha Legion is TOTALLY helping the Imperium
I hear someone say that one more time i am skinning my leg and eating it
humble shoal
Remember guys, Alpha Legion is TOTALLY helping the Imperium
The alpha legion helps the imperium the same way the dark angels does
winter vessel
Remember guys, Alpha Legion is TOTALLY helping the Imperium
Nah. the spin a giant wheel from wheel of fortune each slice labeled “HERETICAL”. But there’s one slice labeled “LOYALIST”. If it lands on loyalist they just move it to the next slice
spare osprey
My r/40klore wish is that alpharius and omegon are both dead, and the psychic backlash of it just makes their sons think they’re actually alpharius and makes them goofy goobers
storm jungle
someone tell the alpha legion theres a war going on and to get in a trench and s...
Okay so the reality is, there very likely would be some loyalist Alpha Legion cells but knowing how chaos/40k works for plot reasons they would be EXTREMELY minimal in numbers.
90-95% of Alpha Legion are absolutely fully devoted to Chaos, mostly because its their main 40k allignment on tabletop but also because asshole spymaster SM causing pandemonium is funny
storm jungle
My r/40klore wish is that alpharius and omegon are both dead, and the psychic ba...
Honestly that would be great but we'll see if GW wants to make a chaos primarch model or not
spare osprey
I just think the line “my name is alpharius, for I know no other” is neat
So I’m going with it
winter vessel
My r/40klore wish is that alpharius and omegon are both dead, and the psychic ba...
It just descends into every alpha legionnaire having dissociative identity disorder
queen laurel
Honestly that would be great but we'll see if GW wants to make a chaos primarch ...
I want Saguinus to come back so bad not because i want to because i just want to see the psychic backlash you would receive
summer mural
its not the sneakiness of the alpha legion thats distracting, its the campiness of how they do it, like I can see raven guard or scout marines sneaking up behind someone and shanking them stealthily, but the alpha legion is just like " this dude just vanished? did he literally backflip into that tiny vent and crawl up it at superhuman speeds?"
humble shoal
Okay so the reality is, there very likely would be some loyalist Alpha Legion ce...
Or they are still trying to win the great crusade and see the imperium as an obstacle for that
Makes more sense tbh
storm jungle
its not the sneakiness of the alpha legion thats distracting, its the *campiness...
Again that excerpt showcases it well
"Get drowned in snakes because im a piece of shit"
winter vessel
I want the Harlequins to do something. And that’s it. That’s like? My one lore wish
summer mural
snake illusions
humble shoal
I want the Harlequins to do something. And that’s it. That’s like? My one lore w...
Harlequins arent real
storm jungle
queen laurel
I want the Harlequins to do something. And that’s it. That’s like? My one lore w...
Careful what you wish
storm jungle
I want the Harlequins to do something. And that’s it. That’s like? My one lore w...
Harlequins as a faction are entirely agents of the plot
winter vessel
Careful what you wish
Eh I’ve done worse then Clown Elves
spare osprey
It just descends into every alpha legionnaire having dissociative identity disor...
Literally
summer mural
dusk patrol
They'll probably have them do something with the EC update and the new Eldar models.
humble shoal
Eh I’ve done worse then Clown Elves
We should ban clown elves
dusk patrol
Heavily implied the two will be linked.
winter vessel
Harlequins as a faction are entirely agents of the plot
Yeah. And they’re the only guys I have more knowledge of then the average Aeldari factions. I just find them interesting
spring cairn
TF2 SPY GRINDSET
dusk patrol
Never post that again
humble shoal
Its scouts dad
dusk patrol
Cursed
spring cairn
you're scared of what a true handsome rogue looks like
dusk patrol
Spy without mask is cursed
queen laurel
If only emperor karl Franz did this pose
summer mural
karl doesnt smile voluntarily
winter vessel
“Yes…and now he’s here TO **** US!”-inquisitor talking about the Alpha Legion scurrying around in his ship
humble shoal
Thats a man id let go down on me mask or no mask
He sexbombed scouts mother
queen laurel
Thats a man id let go down on me mask or no mask
Okay i know you would like someone like astarion and Marazhai
But really
Spy?
storm jungle
Astarion is mid
queen laurel
Honestly
queen laurel
I respect it
humble shoal
Spy is a family man
storm jungle
^
summer mural
astarion? name seems familiar
dusk patrol
Asterion is just a guy with century long daddy issues when you break it down.
humble shoal
astarion? name seems familiar
Bg3 mid dude
storm jungle
astarion? name seems familiar
Astarion Molecock from BG3
winter vessel
Yep
storm jungle
not to be confused with Asterion from 40k
the twink chapter master of the Minocunts
queen laurel
Astarion Molecock from BG3
What did boulders gate mean when the male options are mid but the female options are good
winter vessel
the twink chapter master of the Minocunts
“To be on top of a man is a display of strength and masculinity”-Asterion
queen laurel
Being serious though like the female romance options are amazing
While the male ones are like fine
winter vessel
Wylldin
queen laurel
Wyll however....
I mean hey i've read warhammer stories more generic than his personality
dusk patrol
Gale is a divine fuckboi
arctic talon
Wyll is
queen laurel
He's not that bad
dusk patrol
Halsin is literally just a himbo who exists for the bear fucking scene.
queen laurel
Halsin is literally just a himbo who exists for the bear fucking scene.
Also like
Why is it druid into
Very questionable things
dusk patrol
I hate that they have two druids
dusk patrol
And didn't do the gnome bard character.
queen laurel
And didn't do the gnome bard character.
Yeah like
dusk patrol
Halsin is such a waste of space.
queen laurel
He's a ranger
queen laurel
Was he a ranger during the old games?
queen laurel
Huh i guess i just feel weird with how he's built
But hey ranger is good in this game so i can't complain
spring cairn
https://youtu.be/BGusey2vWmI?si=CFWXvnlo2nUrzxYt hehehe
green loom
I became a cowboy
dusk patrol
I did save him but like, not cause I wanted to.
queen laurel
https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547
Yeah like i'm just going to say it out of the six pickup companions that you can get
Of wyll, Gale, astarion, shadow heart, lae'zel and karlach
arctic talon
I became a cowboy
Bard moment
queen laurel
Only the girls have very much
arctic talon
Halsin is a non character
arctic talon
Only the girls have very much
Not really
queen laurel
Great romance it seems
arctic talon
Gale and Astarion are good
The issue is you need to like the type of men they are
Wyll is mid
dusk patrol
Yeah I'd say those two are solid stories.
spring cairn
sad to think i'll never play bg3, oh well, it's not on me
dusk patrol
But they're both fucking twinks basically.
arctic talon
Halsin stops existing
queen laurel
Gale and Astarion are good
I will say though their stories are well done
Eyll
Is just f****** sad because
He is so bland
dusk patrol
Wyll is just a boring dude
arctic talon
But they're both fucking twinks basically.
All the men in the party combined act 1 don’t break 25 strength lol
It’s really funny
Halsin and Minsc tip the scale
dusk patrol
Shadowhart is obviously the writers favorite character and its not close.
arctic talon
Assuming you set their stats to their npc ones
arctic talon
Shadowhart is obviously the writers favorite character and its not close.
Yeeeep
dusk patrol
Which I'll say
arctic talon
dusk patrol
I think her story is actually kinda dumb
arctic talon
Cult 101
dusk patrol
But shes well done that it doesn't matter.
arctic talon
She’s literally a cultist lol
dusk patrol
But her core story is really contrived and boring.
winter vessel
https://tenor.com/view/shadowheart-bg3-baldur%27s-gate-3-shart-blingee-gif-17175...
Even my friend who hasn’t played the previous titles found her boring
dusk patrol
Like I expected there to be a twist with Shart but then it turns out its just the most obvious thing.
winter vessel
She’s only in BG3
As in he’s only played BG3 and knows Jack shit about the universe, Goob.
queen laurel
Like I expected there to be a twist with Shart but then it turns out its just th...
To be honest by dnd standards a good chunk of the character stories are incredibly basic in their world
But theu executed them well
I can't complain honestly
arctic talon
Karlach’s is slightly odd
dusk patrol
Auntie Ethel is the best character in the game.
arctic talon
But whatever
queen laurel
The game is still pretty good
arctic talon
Auntie Ethel is the best character in the game.
Ranked professional racist
dusk patrol
Especially since shes completely optional I think.
queen laurel
Another barbarian that all brawn no brain
winter vessel
Auntie Ethel is the best character in the game.
You mean the personification of a TikTok influencer?
queen laurel
Especially since shes completely optional I think.
Hey it's funny caving her head in twice
dusk patrol
She is fun to kill
queen laurel
Karlachs story is just weird
She's a thiefling that ended up in the hells because of a betrayal what's a weird about that
arctic talon
Mostly because we literally never see Demons
In the game
Well that’s a lie
We see 2 demons total
The player never gets to learn about the blood war ironically
dusk patrol
queen laurel
The player never gets to learn about the blood war ironically
You're talking about the player as and the people that play right not your character
queen laurel
Didn't your character share that vision with her
dusk patrol
One is the hunter dude, whose the other daemon
queen laurel
When you met her
arctic talon
One is the hunter dude, whose the other daemon
Devil they’re devils
queen laurel
One is the hunter dude, whose the other daemon
That's still a devil
arctic talon
The only 2 demons are Shovel
queen laurel
He's an orthon
dusk patrol
Which ones are the daemons
queen laurel
I think
arctic talon
And the summonable one with a spell
Demons are unlike Devils actually pure evil lol
Oh I guess the gnolls
Are demons arguably
They’re filled to the brim with demonic energy and blood
queen laurel
Ah fair
arctic talon
It’s literally ordained by the Gods
To keep going
In any case Karlach left out the part of the Blood War that if Hell loses everyone fucking dies
queen laurel
In any case Karlach left out the part of the Blood War that if Hell loses everyo...
Well
dusk patrol
She's so whiney smh
queen laurel
That certainly makes it fine
dusk patrol
She got a sick new heart and all she does is complain.
arctic talon
Tbh
queen laurel
She's so whiney smh
How would you react if your entire life you got betrayed by the person you trusted and got replaced with a heart where you can't even go to the realm where you live anymore because that thing overheats
dusk patrol
How would you react if your entire life you got betrayed by the person you trust...
Whine less about it
queen laurel
Zariel is also OOC
Too bad rolling to convince her to be a good person again is
arctic talon
I find it funnier in the same month of BG3
queen laurel
Funny
arctic talon
The events of the game aren’t even the most horrifying apocalypse going on
dusk patrol
As a character.
queen laurel
The events of the game aren’t even the most horrifying apocalypse going on
Fuck me
dusk patrol
There's always some shit going on.
queen laurel
If the chances of an elder brain god conquering the realms isn't the worst
What the hell is keeping this realms together
I swear
dusk patrol
Definitely would have been bad
arctic talon
Okay but if the Demons win in Hell
it becomes like 100x easier for them to break into other realms
and then they can kill everyone
because demons don't die
if you kill a demon it respawns instantly and crawls back out of the abyss lol
queen laurel
if you kill a demon it respawns instantly and crawls back out of the abyss lol
Are there ways to give them true death
Like actually kill them for good
arctic talon
no
Not in the Hells, not in the abyss
They cannot and do not die forever
not that Devils are good
queen laurel
Fuck me they sound like the perfect enemies for orruks to fight
queen laurel
But they're much more preferable than demons
arctic talon
and Evil thats going to skin you alive and do other unspeakble things to your twitching body
queen laurel
Versus something that makes even an iron jaw look like an angel
arctic talon
Also its not like the Devils don't get help from Angels in this venture
summer mural
is there a death guard thats an excellent sprinter
arctic talon
arctic talon
is there a death guard thats an excellent sprinter
Nowadays? no
they can't really sprint properly
summer mural
yes chaos death guard
arctic talon
They can get some pretty serious speed
for how disgusting rotted and large they are
summer mural
do chaos marines have chaos techmarines
queen laurel
Yeah they become basically rotting battering rams
arctic talon
do chaos marines have chaos techmarines
yep
queen laurel
Not the fastest mind you but when they connect
arctic talon
queen laurel
They connect
queen laurel
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/hwb2kldr/black-library-open-s...
We already saw this bro
queen laurel
We had an entire conversation about it
summer mural
yeah the death guard do hit hard
and refuse to die
the mechanicum equivalent of chaos on their side always seems a bit odd to me i dunno why
like, how do chaos tech marines get new tech marines at a fast enough rate
arctic talon
They can shove memories into brains in 40k
so you can fast track all the training
but most CSM tech marines aree old
queen laurel
Fuck
Going to be honest if i can actually write well i would immediately put two of these guys up for the competition
arctic talon
and very experienced
queen laurel
Just these two duking it out
queen laurel
is that earthquake guy and whos the gargant
King brodd
Son of behamat
And currently the largest gargant
queen laurel
is he the actual son of behemat
Yeah his father is the descendant of all gargants
But he's basically
The most special
arctic talon
But they're much more preferable than demons
also another fun thing about the Blood War is that the Demons often just kill each other lol
wait do we know what happened to Behamat
queen laurel
also another fun thing about the Blood War is that the Demons often just kill ea...
They are literally so violent they can't even get along with each other
arctic talon
They are literally so violent they can't even get along with each other
Chaotic Evil moment
queen laurel
or did he just you know
Sigmar had to kill him
arctic talon
shame
queen laurel
Because he was being corrupted by chaos
So that's why king brodd doesn't like the hammer god
But hey some gargants have forgiven him
And even serve order
Somehow
lofty mason
Does IoM have a secretary of defense? Basically one person that in charge of Astra Militarum.
queen laurel
the gargants are on the destruction side right
Yes
They are in the grand alliance of destruction
summer mural
the grand alliance of destruction isnt an actual alliance though right
dusk patrol
Does IoM have a secretary of defense? Basically one person that in charge of Ast...
Yes
summer mural
like it doesnt exist
dusk patrol
Who is that at the moment?
Don’t recall, it’s called the Lord Commander Militant
queen laurel
the grand alliance of destruction isnt an actual alliance though right
Yes they are not an alliance but basically they worship Gorkamorka
Or gork and mork
summer mural
or does the grand alliance of the destruction actually have once in a decade meetings where they plot how to cause random destruction
oh all of them worship gorkamorka?
queen laurel
It's just a meta term
arctic talon
Does IoM have a secretary of defense? Basically one person that in charge of Ast...
Unknown the last one got killed
there isn't always one in the position
queen laurel
oh all of them worship gorkamorka?
They have their own religion but he's one of the god's included in the religion
For example the ogres mainly venerate the gulping god
Which is considered an aspect of him
dusk patrol
I believe they directly mention there’s a guy above Leontus
queen laurel
Same with the Gloomspite gitz
summer mural
ik the gargants had that whole thing about stories where their god fights gorkamorka in competitions
dusk patrol
But idk about his name
queen laurel
ik the gargants had that whole thing about stories where their god fights gorkam...
No Behemat used to be a champion of Gorkamorka
And he was jealous of his freedom so he made him do a bunch of challenges
winter vessel
arctic talon
Not a high lord
dusk patrol
Yeah
arctic talon
Its leontus
dusk patrol
He’s a step below
queen laurel
gorkamorka was basically stuck fighting for sigmar
Yeah but the whispers of the bluebird you know
Get rid of that
dusk patrol
Lord Solar Leontus
winter vessel
I like how he’s doing the equivalent of a band world tour in an effort to boost the morale of the Imperium defenders
summer mural
oh leontus's first name is arcadian
dusk patrol
Yeah
summer mural
I DIDNT KNOW THAT I THOUGHT HIS ENTIRE NAME WAS LORD SOLAR LEONTUS
turns out he didnt just happened to be named solar leontus
but lord solar is what they named the title
dusk patrol
Yes
summer mural
also on the topic of supreme militarum leader
afaik leontus's job designation as lord solar revolves around protecting segmentum solar
but hes a bit of a maverick and believes in going outside its boundaries to purge fools
but i dont think hes definitely the highest one up then
dusk patrol
He’s not he’s a step below
We’ve said this
He’s one of the Segmentum leaders who would maybe become the next high lord
dusk patrol
Yeah
winter vessel
Didn’t the Grand Master of the Assassinorum conduct a purge of High Lords who were opposed to Roboute taking control again?
summer mural
the grand master of the assassinorum.
given how the 4 assassins are like, I wonder what the grand master gets upto
or is it some old regular lookin hoomie granny who poisons your tea
dusk patrol
Didn’t the Grand Master of the Assassinorum conduct a purge of High Lords who we...
He assisted in putting down the rebellion yeah
dusk patrol
given how the 4 assassins are like, I wonder what the grand master gets upto
He apparently was from one of the temples but it’s not clear which
Still very dangerous though obviously
Culexus obviously is probably not it
summer mural
I cant picture how dangerous, since its not a marine, but as absurd as the other 4 assassins
its probably not the callidus if its a male
and not an eversor either because well...yeah
celest dome
Eversor High lord on Terra
dusk patrol
It’s not clear what he was, and there’s no clear signs
celest dome
Might be from one of the hidden temple
dusk patrol
Just that he’s quite dangerous still
celest dome
Or not an assassin but a handler initially (if Culexus or Eversor)
dusk patrol
He would be an assassin
rose thorn
It’s not clear what he was, and there’s no clear signs
Trans recenter
vagrant fox
I thought he shapeshifted in the book that deals with the high lords being uppity
rose thorn
Reference*
dusk patrol
They promote from within
dusk patrol
I thought he shapeshifted in the book that deals with the high lords being uppit...
Not that I recall, the book makes a point of it being very unclear what he could have been
dusk patrol
No
vagrant fox
No, I'm thinking about when Cypher was fucking around in the palace
summer mural
4 vindicares too, in case the first 3 missed ig
dusk patrol
Well sorta, Valoris seemed to know
dusk patrol
4 vindicares too, in case the first 3 missed ig
They all fired at once at four different targets