yes
#40k-lore-chat
arctic talon
storm jungle
Mostly no
sharp pollen
lol
storm jungle
LOL
arctic talon
Like good by warhammer standards
Or good by like
Actual good book standards
Because then yeah I’d say the books have largely been mediocre to good recently
sharp pollen
well i really liked Brutal Kunnin, but its like 2018 or 2020
storm jungle
well i really liked Brutal Kunnin, but its like 2018 or 2020
yeah that one is peak
sharp pollen
wdym, eldar lesbian segs?????
storm jungle
yeah that too
but unless you are not interested in the tau you prob wont like it that much lol
tough haven
It abides by the Lex Sesbian!? Good to finally see a emperor abiding eldar book
storm jungle
tough haven
The new tau book is extremely good
which is?
arctic talon
Elemental council
tough haven
ooo
storm jungle
its like
arctic talon
Yeah
storm jungle
at an actually good tau novel
arctic talon
Nugyen cooked
storm jungle
that isnt by Phil Kelly
arctic talon
Hard
storm jungle
it really comes across as the tau being both evil but also not lol
storm jungle
actual rarity
sharp pollen
is the collection of books from here gonna be expanded? or nah
https://pyroriffic.wordpress.com/warhammer-40k-reading-starter-list/
storm jungle
Nah those are random recommendations we pick for new readers
remember 40k novels are like anthologies
all of them take place in differetn places in the galaxy doing their own shit
we rarely get series' or interconnected novels
sharp pollen
remembering is not my strong perk
green loom
Good you don't need to for most novels
storm jungle
but yeah those are some great books n there
green loom
Since it either doesn't matter or will beat you over the head reminding you
storm jungle
yeah honestly just look through there
sharp pollen
well, at least there are many of them, so i have a lot to read
arctic talon
You need to read the other 4? 3? First
sharp pollen
i think after the first eisenhorn book im gonna start Da Big Dakka, want to jump back into fun
orks are so fucking good
storm jungle
Yeah that book is good
it makes dark eldar look like total fucking morons which i wasnt a big fan of and Ufthak has mad plot armor but its good for ork reading
sharp pollen
oh no spoiles aaaah
sharp pollen
not reading aaaaa
storm jungle
aaaaa
but anyway yeah its a fun book if albeit not as good as Brutal
i liked that more due to being in an active warzone
also admech being fucking stupid
sly ivy
god i hate the ahriman series
Oh you’ve read it. I was eyeing it.
sly ivy
I like Khayon
storm jungle
hmmm Iskender Khayon
sharp pollen
wait...
sharp pollen
is Da Big Dakka a 2024 release?????
storm jungle
Yes!!!
sharp pollen
holy fucking shit, its like yesterday
storm jungle
Its a sequel to Brutal Cunning!
sly ivy
I mean Iskandar whoops
Isn’t he Persian tho ur mortal enemy
storm jungle
Isn’t he Persian tho ur mortal enemy
Uhhh all the same to me tbh
you saw one brown man with a beard and mustache you've seen em all
muslims unite
🇹🇷
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-fail-epicfail-flip-table-gif-36293969096559330...
BRO CHILL
sly ivy
muslims unite
storm jungle
<:purityseal:1044234998015852635>
🤝
arctic talon
muslims unite
storm jungle
REAL.
arctic talon
LOL
storm jungle
Idk the term but race/ethnicity is like the last thing i care about
just dont be a cunt
anyway back to shooting neighbors with my technical truck
arctic talon
Guh
sly ivy
Idk the term but race/ethnicity is like the last thing i care about
Ya same tho it’s GREAT for jokes
And I’m uncancelably brown thank Jesus and Allah
storm jungle
my favorite thing is people joking about istanbul constaniapolis
and im like
"I never read the history on it idc its just a name"
storm jungle
same, saving that
sly ivy
uncancelably brown
It’s so liberating
I just shitpoasted (in person) my way through all the social justice turmoil of the last several years
sharp pollen
i still wonder, how in 40k there are still people with different skin color
crystal forum
technicals are genuinely so fucking cool
sharp pollen
like, how did they all not blend
crystal forum
i love the idea of strapping armor on an F-150 and going to shoot some infidels
sly ivy
i still wonder, how in 40k there are still people with different skin color
Skin color evolution happens on timescales under 1000 years
So there’s environment
storm jungle
Yep also planetary racial features is a thing
sly ivy
But also like we have had over 60000 years to blend on one planet and have not
I try to explain this to people like
arctic talon
I mean it makes sense
storm jungle
sly ivy
We are obviously rich jetsetters
sharp pollen
well fair enough
sly ivy
But most people on earth don’t move far beyond where their grandparents lived
The overall genetic structure of the out of Africa movement and spread is largely intact on modern earth.
With the exception of us mobile urbanites.
sharp pollen
i guess its dumb to ask if there was a human-ogryn... interaction
sly ivy
So it takes a while.
storm jungle
there could be but abhumans cant breed with normal humans
sharp pollen
((((
arctic talon
Well beastmen might
storm jungle
they can only do it together
arctic talon
Based on the lore for Gor
storm jungle
augh
sharp pollen
but we all are hoomans...
storm jungle
yeah but one is giga-mutated
green loom
Not everyone can be a beastman, but a beastman can come from anywhere!
sharp pollen
are felinids real?
keen nova
dont think how everyone on tallarn is white
Lawrance of arabia got around
storm jungle
Yes
sharp pollen
amazing
sharp pollen
furries keep it alive
storm jungle
for real
keen nova
Elemental council
I heard about this one, I didn't know it was getting good reception
sharp pollen
damn i want a good book about humans and some abhumans interacting
arctic talon
I heard about this one, I didn't know it was getting good reception
I finished it it’s very good
storm jungle
damn i want a good book about humans and some abhumans interacting
Wraithbone Phoenix
storm jungle
np
arctic talon
What’s new
storm jungle
vagrant fox
If abhumans didn't want to be mistreated, they shouldn't have become abhumans in the first place
vagrant fox
hell yea
keen nova
they barely got lore toh
I felt bad for them on taros. Honestly didn't even know they were known for long range marksmenship until I saw a video by Italianspartacus
green loom
Didn't the one with a model murder all of them
green loom
I felt bad for them on taros. Honestly didn't even know they were known for long...
Huh
Felinids?
I think you're mixing them up with ratlings
keen nova
I think you're mixing them up with ratlings
I thought that was still on tallerns lol
keen nova
they barely got lore toh
For tallerns that is
sly ivy
Every1 knows tallarn r the true abhumans
Better mangy cat than desert rat
As they say on Cadia
winter vessel
My Underrated opinion. I kinda like the Maximus Pattern helmet’s grill marks being vertical rather than horizontal
rose thorn
40k hates black library models tbh
queen laurel
40k hates black library models tbh
Gotrek has a aos model so
rose thorn
Gotrek has a aos model so
fr\
rose thorn
i hope she gets a model
alot of books that have a hard back usually is about a popular character
spare osprey
yknow
when it comes to black library minis
i would like a non-game based mini here and there
like it's a really random want out of a company who makes wargames
but i think seeing a mini version of some "everyday" characters from black library would be cool
rose thorn
i would like a non-game based mini here and there
yee they did that a few times, the first warhammer plus mini and the recent 40k black library minis got legends only rules
anbd are supposed to be proxies
spare osprey
yee they did that a few times, the first warhammer plus mini and the recent 40k ...
i think i mean more
rose thorn
the AOS minis all usually have rules to support them (mainly for balance reasons)
spare osprey
i think i mean more
like giving Kyril sindermann a mini
lemme put a lil old man on my shelf
i would love little fluffy minis like that
spare osprey
i bet
rose thorn
i forgot the word for it but our favorire insane tier painted did a non warhammer one recently
honestly id love if they did an legionia imperialis black library mini
(it would be veru funny)
rose thorn
Truee
my bet is an AOS mini
or maybe uh
idk has tehre been any good recent 40k books?
opaque coyote
Dies Irae imperialis mini
If I saw this shit as the other side guardsman/traitor or something
I would just overload my Lasgun and eat the barrel
I ain't surviving that
spare osprey
I ain't surviving that
literally
sly ivy
If you can’t believe I provide it for free i barely can either but I just love u guys that much
sly ivy
The Emperor told them in dreams about the pp shot
arctic talon
40k hates black library models tbh
I'm ngl 40k has the most fire black library model and its not even close
AoS please prove me wrong and top this
and then 40k prove me wrong and top the AoS one
in fact make every black library mini as good as Aveline
queen laurel
I'm ngl 40k has the most fire black library model and its not even close
Is there more black library models that is literally more than just one guy doing a thing then this lady
because like she is the only one i've seen do that
other black library models are mostly alone
arctic talon
She’s the only black library mini with other “things” like the cherubs yeah
Unless you count gotreks pile of dead people
queen laurel
Unless you count gotreks pile of dead people
may as well
keen nova
I'm ngl 40k has the most fire black library model and its not even close
That looks awesome
rose thorn
I'm ngl 40k has the most fire black library model and its not even close
oh yeah no doubt thats fucking fire, let me go find that one aos model i really liekd
teh thing with AOS black library models is that they enter the main faction rotation
usually just to fill a role
so some of the 'black library' models just became normal models
like
Kragnos was considered a black library model
heres my two favorties
rose thorn
I'm ngl 40k has the most fire black library model and its not even close
i wish i could made that into a stormcast model
queen laurel
Seriously?
he does have story
rose thorn
Seriously?
yeah its weird
rose thorn
then they had a like, ceremonial series
queen laurel
but if it's only the three metrics that you need then
rose thorn
which was named minis that all got demoted into normalminis
queen laurel
we would have a lot more models
rose thorn
which was really improtant because it fixed alot of issues with armies
queen laurel
which was really improtant because it fixed *alot* of issues with armies
i'm gonna be honest he has the quality of a centerpiece model that GW really wants you to buy
rose thorn
lmao
sly ivy
Goddamn bro needs 2 do some manscaping
queen laurel
same with like Gordrakk
rose thorn
he is a good model hes just not great
queen laurel
he is a good model hes just not great
he's definitely awesome but as a character he's you know straightforward
he's a walking demigod that is equivalent to a disaster
sly ivy
same with like Gordrakk
He looks like he’s gonna tumble face first off that cabbage
queen laurel
He looks like he’s gonna tumble face first off that cabbage
Well considering that cabbage can bellow with such force that it can break your bones and literally glide with all of that bulk
There's a reason why attaches himself with a chain
Everytime he gets on top of bigteef
queen laurel
Do u like the morky guy who rides the vulture
Gobsprakk's great and by the way i love every single thing about the grand alliance of destruction
sly ivy
Ogors need range refresh
I like his hand staff. Is he good yet in game his rules seemed a little meh
rose thorn
Ogors need range refresh
They are most likely getting one soon btw
queen laurel
They are most likely getting one soon btw
i just realized this
GobsprAKK
GordrAKK
they really are the other halves of Gorkamorka
median star
do we know what the name of the guard that sits by oska is by any chance
queen laurel
Can’t tell if this si an AOS or 40K model
yeah me and a couple of the people here had a discussion about that
queen laurel
Can’t tell if this si an AOS or 40K model
i thought it was Kruleboy Skareshield but it's too clean to be that
i think the guess was basically related to Slannesh at least
coarse pumice
which was named minis that all got demoted into normalminis
Is this what happened to the warqueen?
dusk patrol
i'm gonna be honest he has the quality of a centerpiece model that GW really wan...
Cowards at GW not giving him a penis.
keen nova
The more I think about this, I more I want a novel now about the shitty second line infantry of Vraks accompanying the Death Korps as penance. Like imagine some locals trying to ask kreig to fortify their village from the orkz but they end up having to talk through the Colonel's semi depressed aid because he just hits them with that Attrition stare. (Yes I know they can talk I just find this funny)
(Most normal Vrak's milita art I could find btw)
storm jungle
Bro these artists will animefy anything i swear
storm jungle
The more I think about this, I more I want a novel now about the shitty second l...
The reality is they'd just get sent to die in camps as traitors of any kind lowest or highest get no mercy from imperials
keen nova
The reality is they'd just get sent to die in camps as traitors of any kind lowe...
Yeah, entirely sensible too, given what chaos corruption does to a mf. This was just a fun thought.
keen nova
Bro these artists will animefy anything i swear
I found the source of this art. It gets worse.
storm jungle
I found the source of this art. It gets worse.
Mossa is a freak yeah
draws gore art of these child-like/teenage characters lmao
storm jungle
Yeah, entirely sensible too, given what chaos corruption does to a mf. This was ...
Also its not even corruption sometimes, usually even if you didnt do anything they can kill you/imprison you outright for just being under traitor rule or any othe thing
keen nova
This one ain't so bad though, still traitor however
keen nova
Also its not even corruption sometimes, usually even if you didnt *do* anything ...
That they should have resisted yeah?
sly ivy
draws gore art of these child-like/teenage characters lmao
Isn’t this just part of the average anime artist’s portfolio
Degenerates
storm jungle
Uhh not for most no lol
most are just semi-harmless coomers
mossa literally got banned from the 40k art subreddit for his loli shit
sly ivy
most are just semi-harmless coomers
Load-bearing “semi”
storm jungle
Load-bearing “semi”
keen nova
mossa literally got banned from the 40k art subreddit for his loli shit
This was the other piece of art I found, didn't know he did that though
keen nova
Isn’t this just part of the average anime artist’s portfolio
What I would have thought too
storm jungle
yeah hes pretty bad
his rapey gore art is what got him banned in the main art subreddit mostly lol
queen laurel
mossa literally got banned from the 40k art subreddit for his loli shit
There are two types of artists one that makes generic gooner art but respects ages and one that does the same thing but has no respect for ages
storm jungle
yeah the mods got fed up with it which was pretty funny
queen laurel
I'd rather deal with the generic not safe for work artists than the latter any time of the day
keen nova
his rapey gore art is what got him banned in the main art subreddit mostly lol
I hope I don't come across that, I'll just stick to whatever looks normal and bleach my eyes whenever I can't
storm jungle
LOL
Yeah he mostly doesnt post them on his main account usually so you're probably safe
queen laurel
his rapey gore art is what got him banned in the main art subreddit mostly lol
and the way that he captures the details tells all you need to know
he has seen some shit
sly ivy
Me as I learn of the ways of the anicoomer
queen laurel
Choosing to torment yourself huh
storm jungle
always
keen nova
Me as I learn of the ways of the anicoomer
Yes
rose thorn
Is this what happened to the warqueen?
Yeah
rose thorn
Is this what happened to the warqueen?
That was the intention from the start though, we got the dark oath hero models, fungoid cave shaman, I can’t remember the rest
Knight of shrouds was one
Oh here it is
keen nova
Eldar v T'au would be a cool match up lore wise
queen laurel
Darktide Lorechat
rose thorn
LMAo
tough haven
**I HATE THIS STUPID QUESTION**
Ok but what if like tyranids just like planted crops bro
The answer is that they need biomass **constantly ** and at a rate far faster than they could ever produce
queen laurel
always
wait doesn't Hive fleet Tiamat
do that already
it took me a while to remember the high fleet but don't they like you know
make biomass reserve planets
vagrant fox
Tiamat is making some giant psychic dildonic on a planet, for some reason
As I remember anyways
queen laurel
Tiamat is making some giant psychic dildonic on a planet, for some reason
yeah seems to be the case
sly ivy
Ok but what if like tyranids just like planted crops bro
But don’t tyranids know about SUSTAINABILITY
tough haven
No they literally don’t
sly ivy
Don’t they know about the GREEN NEW DEAL
tough haven
It learns about it, it’s just like “that’s for fucking nerds”
It’s gotta get bulking by consuming all life in the universe
storm jungle
Why hasn’t the hive mind learned about agriculture yet?
its the equilavent of asking us:
"Why dont we all just eat grass, that can sustain us too"
have you considered we just dont fucking want to lol
dusk patrol
The hive mind also has only recently even recognized the important of taking out key figures and and sabotaging seemingly unimportant command centers behind enemy lines
It doesn’t think like we do, it’s very reactive and it takes awhile to learn stuff, if it’s even relevant.
It’s why the Swarmlord exists as a separate consciousness to adapt strategies
queen laurel
also again tiamat is literally right there
doing its own thing on the system or whatever the zog
storm jungle
tiamat is not even doing that tho is the thing
they are building a mega-structure on one part of the planet and i guess semi-fortifying it
tough haven
It’s making The Psychic Peenar™️
storm jungle
It doesn’t think like we do, it’s very reactive and it takes awhile to learn stu...
Also the reality is killing planets is just a better solution
people kinda dont realise just how numerous most hive fleets are numbers wise, unless its some proper planet with good defenses the moment Nids make planetfall its usually game over
storm jungle
also true
tough haven
The hive mind is just someone with impulse control issues
queen laurel
people kinda dont realise just how numerous most hive fleets are numbers wise, u...
Yeah and these guys can slowly but surely adapt to the enemy they are fighting
some do it quicker than others
dusk patrol
It’s not like the Nids are trying to settle down either, their purpose seems to be strip a galaxy of biomass and leave
queen laurel
of course there are things they can't adapt
storm jungle
Yeah they are space locusts
they arent here to make anything sustainable other than themselves lol
its like asking actual locusts IRL "why cant they just farm their own shit"
queen laurel
Yeah they are space locusts
I love the trope of why are these invasive insects a thing what's their goal nothing they literally evolved to be pricks to the natural order
storm jungle
LOL
young pecan
Tbf actual locusts aren't supposedly super intelligent hive minds
storm jungle
its more what they do
i relaly doubt even if they were as intelligent as us they'd stop ruining/eating massive amounts of crop fields lol
its simply "fun" and "easy"
dusk patrol
Tbf actual locusts aren't supposedly super intelligent hive minds
Yeah but if you give a locust a hivemind it would probably just use it to be better at eating everything
young pecan
LOL true
storm jungle
its like asking us humans to not fight
queen laurel
Yeah these are literally giant hordes of insects that are hungry
young pecan
Are we able to eat Tyranids
queen laurel
giving you a hungry thing a brain will just make it better at eating
queen laurel
Are we able to eat Tyranids
ah no
young pecan
Or is there some stupid plot thing that makes them toxic or smth
storm jungle
Are we able to eat Tyranids
no, they are filled with hostile bacteria
young pecan
Of course
storm jungle
I mean its not a stupid thing
dusk patrol
We as humans know there’s literally nothing good that can come from smoking or eating too much sugar beyond temporary pleasure and we still do it
storm jungle
they are literally bio engineered
young pecan
😞
storm jungle
We as humans know there’s literally nothing good that can come from smoking or e...
^
queen laurel
Of course
yeah it's literally the reason why even in a microscopic level ork spores are having a battle
storm jungle
impulses are impulses
queen laurel
with the bacteria
storm jungle
and we are talking about massive alien mega-organism
young pecan
Fair nuff
queen laurel
yeah you can probably only eat it burnt
dusk patrol
Marines can nom a little more cause their digestive systems are more robust but in general
It tastes bad and isn’t a good idea
storm jungle
they got mini-space marine bacteria with helmets fighting fighting little chibi tyranid bacteria
young pecan
But it sucks and you can’t do it raw
That's what she said (as of 2024 electiom results)
dusk patrol
queen laurel
literally just grafting the body parts of a nid is enough to get the damn thing to begin eating you
dusk patrol
Ork however is eaten a lot more commonly by the more unhinged guard regiments
And apparently is ok
storm jungle
Mmmm mushrooms
young pecan
How exactly do orks grow anyway
queen laurel
Ork however is eaten a lot more commonly by the more unhinged guard regiments
to be fair it would probably taste like Beefsteak Fungus
dusk patrol
Like mushrooms
queen laurel
just very very hard to chew
young pecan
Do they suck up nutrients from the ground
dusk patrol
Uh sorta
queen laurel
Do they suck up nutrients from the ground
yes they are mushrooms that like to grow on dank places
dusk patrol
They kinda run off of bullshit
queen laurel
the embryo is on the ground
dusk patrol
The waggghh energy does a lot of the work
storm jungle
How exactly do orks grow anyway
Whenever they shout or do violent shit they exhude spores and then those grow like actual mega mushrooms, then they feed off their environment among other things fungus do then create a orkoid network that spews out goblins/orks through an eventual long period
storm jungle
its why getting rid of orks is usually impossible
you gotta find and systmetically burn every spore collection
queen laurel
yep
storm jungle
yeah the fungus network provides them with essentials
queen laurel
also again they photosynthesize
storm jungle
Gretchin spawn for slave labor
Squigs for any convenient labor
Orks for heavy lifting etc
queen laurel
So even without food or water they can go on for long periods of time with sunlight
storm jungle
I do like the answer of like
"How do Orks get shit like oil"
"Simple, Squigs that collect Oil :)"
queen laurel
"How do Orks get shit like oil"
out squig shits it out
storm jungle
yeah that lmao
its such a copout simple explanation, i love it
also it makes sense since they are all bioweapons
queen laurel
yeah that lmao
how do we get more money how about a squig that's basically a money printer to us
storm jungle
they are self-sustaining
queen laurel
How do we get better aiming how about a squig that has good eyesight to guide our guns
storm jungle
i was literally reading a new ork short story where Grotsnik is doing a surgery on an ork
and they just...
have an elephant trunk cleaner squig that they pull the hose forward of to clean gore from the open chest cavity
queen laurel
have an elephant trunk cleaner squig that they pull the hose forward of to clean...
i'm gonna be honest they are as customisable as tyranid bio forms because there's also shit like Squiggoths that if grown in a appropriate size can square up to titans
better image
storm jungle
storm jungle
sly ivy
rose thorn
better image
Is that the ork one or kroot one
queen laurel
Yeah knarlocs are the therapod kroot that evolved to be giant monsters
rose thorn
I forgot if I ever found the kroot box for a cheap price I’d start kroot
Genestealer cults and kroot are probably my favorite factions
And they have basically the same number of models
sly ivy
Yeah knarlocs are the therapod kroot that evolved to be giant monsters
Ur a theropod kroot
queen laurel
Ur a theropod kroot
ok mister bacteria in the emperor's rotting flesh
sly ivy
ok mister bacteria in the emperor's rotting flesh
You honor me too much. To be so close to Him!!
I could not wish such a thing g
queen laurel
You honor me too much. To be so close to Him!!
yeah but you also smell like a chaos worshiper after they bite off the head of a child so who am i to say
arctic talon
guh
queen laurel
And they have basically the same number of models
anyway, mags do Idoneth and Fyreslayers genuinely hate each other or what
queen laurel
Idoneth don't get along with anyone
even with the other elves?
arctic talon
Yeah
queen laurel
damn
queen laurel
in Order
What about your average dwarf and elf relations in AOS how are they holding up
arctic talon
pretty good in the Cities of Sugmar Sigmar
sly ivy
Idoneth are too busy w their Teclis daddy issues
queen laurel
pretty good in the Cities of ~~Sugmar~~ Sigmar
well at least they aren't at each other's throats now
sly ivy
Cities of Sigmar relations are too boring there needs to be more strife.
queen laurel
old world i'm looking at you
sly ivy
Lmao
queen laurel
my professor put a fucking rickroll in their syllabus
It's OK I understand the pain
sly ivy
Did u get rolled
dusk patrol
@storm jungle I decided to try contacting Lewis Jones to see if he could post a higher quality version of this. Not sure if he’ll respond.
It was a very nice message though so I’m gonna be sad if he doesn’t at least tell me no lol.
queen laurel
It was a very nice message though so I’m gonna be sad if he doesn’t at least tel...
Nice and eternal in the same sentence
rose thorn
anyway, mags do Idoneth and Fyreslayers genuinely hate each other or what
Oh are we talking the box?
dusk patrol
Hi Mr. Jones, huge fan of your work. No idea if this is the best way to contact you, but I was curious about something.
There was a great piece you did for the First Founding book that came out in 2023, for the Iron Hands section, depicting the Rite of Severance.
I haven’t been able to find a proper scan or image of this piece anywhere, people have posted rough scans from the book but they’re not the best quality.
What I wanted to ask is if you’re able, if you could post the full piece anywhere online, whether it’s art station or here.
I totally get if you’re not able to, for legal or personal reasons, or don’t want to, but if you are I’d love to be able to get a high quality version of the image, it’s one I love to show people but the only option I have is a low quality scan.
It’s one of my favorite pieces you’ve done and there’s a lot of great competition there.
Appreciate your work regardless, if you can’t or don’t post it for whatever reason I totally get it.
rose thorn
So that was a specific incident
dusk patrol
This is a great message
queen laurel
`Hi Mr. Jones, huge fan of your work. No idea if this is the best way to contact...
surprisingly coming from you
dusk patrol
I did learn something form communications class
queen laurel
yeah it is
rose thorn
anyway, mags do Idoneth and Fyreslayers genuinely hate each other or what
Idoneth lumineth and DOK are probably the most evil order factions
queen laurel
Idoneth lumineth and DOK are probably the most evil order factions
why did you just name every single elf faction
dusk patrol
Also some details I noticed with it, this guy has an incense burner his servo arm is holding it looks like.
And the cyber familiar holding the page is great
queen laurel
Besides the wood elves but they don't really can't anymore because they're just you know actual wood
dusk patrol
Also these two guys.
rose thorn
why did you just name every single elf faction
Idoneth murder and steal souls from everyone and use it to let their children live
rose thorn
why did you just name every single elf faction
The lumineth realm lords are the closest thing AOS has to Neo Nazis
queen laurel
Idoneth murder and steal souls from everyone and use it to let their children li...
don't explain dok
queen laurel
The lumineth realm lords are the closest thing AOS has to Neo Nazis
fuck me
Teclis
seriously
rose thorn
They purge their Allies population over anything, any human who can’t be a wizard they brain wash into mindless servants
They murdered a metric shit load of everyone in shyish because ‘fuck shyish, if you live there you aren’t pure’
And instead of killing them they locked their soul in an eternal loop of reliving your death
So Nagash can’t get your soul
queen laurel
And instead of killing them they locked their soul in an eternal loop of relivin...
and this is coming from teclis you know
the guy that was usually sensible
jesus ******* christ
rose thorn
Additionally, anyone who goes into the islands (besides the central one) are marked for death
And you will be hunted by the Lumineth
queen laurel
Additionally, anyone who goes into the islands (besides the central one) are mar...
oh OK so if i get accidentally teleported in the realm of life i'm just fucked
rose thorn
Of course that’s if you don’t go insane from being in the realm of literal perfect symmetry
rose thorn
oh OK so if i get accidentally teleported in the realm of life i'm just fucked
Oh no they live in the realm of light
They are the reason making homebrew lore for Hysh is hell
queen laurel
https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/d/d3/Realm_of_Hysh_map_...
yeah because they will almost always make the realm balanced as hell
rose thorn
If the lumineth think you are allowed to, then you can live in xintil
queen laurel
And clean
queen laurel
If the lumineth think you are allowed to, then you can live in xintil
These guys put high elves to shame
rose thorn
yeah because they will almost always make the realm balanced as hell
It’s so bright you probably would go blind, the mountains are so symmetrical they look like statues
These are the chains of Slaanesh
Which were made in hysh
Also an interesting thing about hyish is that it’s all about the basic elements
I don’t play lumineth nor know thier lore but
I think it’s water, earth, and light
queen laurel
I don’t play lumineth nor know thier lore but
look at all of this fancy Zog
rose thorn
And electricity?
queen laurel
rose thorn
look at all of this fancy Zog
Those crystals suck you up and brain wash you
Also that whole city is flying btw
viral halo
It's genuinely amazing how toxic the other channels in here are
I went into general and witnessed a dude have a mental breakdown just now
tough haven
we're cool here though
rose thorn
Huh?!
viral halo
I kept correcting his grammar to help out
this is the chillest channel
it's its own sub-discord
queen laurel
I kept correcting his grammar to help out
ah yes
Definitely something that would calm someone down
This is the definition of a guy is bleeding out so I keep shooting him to make sure he heals faster
outer wave
What did I miss in general now?
queen laurel
What did I miss in general now?
nothing special really just the usual
outer wave
Bruh
dusk patrol
I went into general and witnessed a dude have a mental breakdown just now
To be fair general in any large server is generally shit, but yeah most of the places suck.
Dilara actually has the easiest job smh
Ogryn chat is pretty nice too though, still some toxic but less than other places.
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> I decided to try contacting Lewis Jones to see if he could...
Yeah I got nothing, im legit gonna ask someone to photoshop it
its so fucking annoying how he never shares half the shit he draws lmao
storm jungle
Heres hoping 😔
dusk patrol
I might try sending a message over artstation too or his email, not sure if instagram is the best place to contact him.
Worth a shot though.
storm jungle
It would take like a few weeks/months but im sure he'd reply, he seems nice enough from what ive seen on his instagram
dusk patrol
Yeah I expect him to at least just politely say no.
storm jungle
Yeah due to some company bullshit or something prob
dusk patrol
I don't think its that, cause literally the entire rest of the book is on artstation by this point.
outer wave
Is the guy a freelancer or is he very closesly associated with GW?
rose thorn
WIND! Earth, light, water , and wind
storm jungle
Freelance turned close associate
outer wave
Gotcha
dusk patrol
He does stuff for other companies too but yeah they're his main thing.
arctic talon
Tbh its kind of weird
storm jungle
GW noticed his art was EXTREMELY liked so they gave him a position o nthe studio
rose thorn
Oo which artist are we talking
dusk patrol
That's why I think it might have just slipped through the cracks tbh.
arctic talon
Lewis Jones™️
storm jungle
Lewis Jones
storm jungle
I actually wonder where is it from?
dusk patrol
And for the entire book I think.
rose thorn
OH THAT LEWIS JONES
dusk patrol
First Founding, it was made for it.
rose thorn
Blood is insane
storm jungle
Blood is insane
Hes extremely good
rose thorn
Made some of my favorite 40K art
storm jungle
love his shit
dusk patrol
Lots of great pieces, basically everything else is online.
arctic talon
someday we'll get those weird ass things in the background lol
rose thorn
rose thorn
https://artwork.40k.gallery/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Death-of-Space-Marine-768...
Btw this is the only official art of this chapter
celest dome
someday we'll get those weird ass things in the background lol
Which one ? the Tower ?
storm jungle
Btw this is the only official art of this chapter
What chapter is it
i always wondered lol
rose thorn
you can notice it shim from the spikes lol
Also he does curvy metal in a special way
rose thorn
Yee
storm jungle
yeee alright
rose thorn
They protect the warp
arctic talon
the great rift
outer wave
someday we'll get those weird ass things in the background lol
Honestly the guy in the foreground could easily just be a diesel punk space marine which would be rad as hell
dusk patrol
celest dome
Background units have so many interesting thing
arctic talon
God this art goes so hard
dusk patrol
Some other really sick pieces
storm jungle
God this art goes so hard
like
look at 10th edition covers
then look at 9th
actually embarrassing
ngl
that artwork is one of the most apocalyptic 40k pieces ive seen in my life lol
dusk patrol
arctic talon
not great
the new GSC one is really really not great imo
the new guard one falls into acceptable
storm jungle
Its very flat
arctic talon
even if imo its way worse
storm jungle
it feels lifeless
arctic talon
then the Lewis Jones one
dusk patrol
They're not bad Lewis Jones is just awesome.
shadow plover
look at 10th edition covers
I mean the ones that were Lewis in 9th are still Lewis in 10th
arctic talon
well
storm jungle
I mean the ones that were Lewis in 9th are still Lewis in 10th
Most of the "new" 10th ones i mean
arctic talon
they replaced the guard and GSC covers
dusk patrol
But idk if he can work on all them like he did now with him being part of the concept team.
storm jungle
they arent that good
dusk patrol
Probably super busy now.
storm jungle
But idk if he can work on all them like he did now with him being part of the co...
Yeah and hes also the head of the miniature art design now or something? Thats like 3 years old news tho
shadow plover
yeah theres some better and some worse ones
I did like the 9th Necron one a bit more
viral halo
The worst thing is the codexes are so expensive and they remove shit every edition
arctic talon
like this shit cooks
viral halo
barely any lore or artwork
arctic talon
hard
storm jungle
barely any lore or artwork
I HATE that with these new codexes
shadow plover
I think this cooked slightly harder
storm jungle
or if theres lore its all copy pasted
arctic talon
lol
storm jungle
you little shi-
storm jungle
LOL
outer wave
Id rather if new codecies had new artwork tbh
shadow plover
10th is a LOT better than 9th
arctic talon
such a shame this codex got replaced
shadow plover
I dunno what you're smoking
viral halo
10th is a LOT better than 9th
pandemic edition= not real
outer wave
I feel like there's enough time between editions that you can hire someone for new art
viral halo
8th was also better than 9th and 10th sadly
viral halo
7th was peak
viral halo
It had cool codexes and that's all that matters
arctic talon
so I have a love + hate relationship with it
storm jungle
dusk patrol
That being said....I'd trade the cover arts for some more fuckin lore with my codexes.
outer wave
Which edition right now is the best balanced for every faction?
dusk patrol
The one you got in with
outer wave
I had a feeling none of them were that well balanced
arctic talon
10th rn and end of 9th
dusk patrol
Its impossible
arctic talon
are about as close as you can get to "balanced"
dusk patrol
But some were better.
arctic talon
7e was """"""Balanced"""""""
dusk patrol
Balanced isn't always good too.
viral halo
The only balanced games are kill team and horus heresy and that's even a stretch
arctic talon
if you abused the strongest rules
shadow plover
perfectly balancing 40k is an impossible task if you want to keep the rules thematic and intersting
dusk patrol
Heresy is balanced in that everything can be broken.
viral halo
As it should be
dusk patrol
Except White Scars
shadow plover
but 10th has been prety good so far with the balance, with a couple outliers that were patched out soon after they emerged
dusk patrol
They're kinda dookie.
dusk patrol
Yarp
arctic talon
lol
viral halo
I'm just not that into 40k tabletop anymore tbh
storm jungle
I'm just not that into 40k tabletop anymore tbh
Im literally only here ot extract art and lore from them so
rose thorn
dusk patrol
Iron Hands are basically always at least fine.
storm jungle
<:pogryn:961977701533614130>
the Pimptain....
shadow plover
or broken
queen laurel
Im literally only here ot extract art and lore from them so
i have a collection of images for pretty models of ironjawz
viral halo
I'd honestly rather play 40k on tabletop sim than in person because it smells better via the internet
shadow plover
dusk patrol
Yep
arctic talon
I'd honestly rather play 40k on tabletop sim than in person because it smells be...
my LGS kicks out people who smell bad
outer wave
Yeah same
arctic talon
rose thorn
the Pimptain....
I have to give old world credit when they hit it
dusk patrol
Very solid faction in 40k and heresy.
queen laurel
I'd honestly rather play 40k on tabletop sim than in person because it smells be...
what about age of sigmar have you touched that
arctic talon
<:pogryn:961977701533614130>
this cooked
viral halo
my LGS kicks out people who smell bad
mine puts out seasonal hygiene warnings and has a spray bottle
arctic talon
thats not enough
viral halo
what about age of sigmar have you touched that
yea it's great but barely playe around me
arctic talon
you need to get them out smh
queen laurel
yea it's great but barely playe around me
damn
arctic talon
Killteam is prolly my favorite system GW makes rn
rose thorn
The old world curse of it being followed by this mini
viral halo
My LGS is fucking gigantic and everyone just plays 40k, magic, or battletech or marvel crisis protocl
celest dome
Killteam is prolly my favorite system GW makes rn
System yes, but Necromunda still is the most interesting of the 2 to me
dusk patrol
A STEAMTANK DRIVER
rose thorn
ALSO POG OLD BLOODBOWL MINIS ARE COMING BAVK
dusk patrol
CHOO CHOO
arctic talon
System yes, but Necromunda still is the most interesting of the 2 to me
okay but its My favorite system
rose thorn
They are so terrible I love them
storm jungle
damn
dusk patrol
You know ironically Saltz original aspiration was shooting too high since theres so few steamtanks.
rose thorn
rose thorn
Humans humans halflings and chaos dwarves
I fuckinh love these ugly ass chaos dwarves
arctic talon
Oh you're bi? Name every girl and guy.
dusk patrol
rose thorn
old world models fuck
When they are good they are so fucking good
dusk patrol
Whew lads
rose thorn
I have like 5 I plan to get for AOS
rose thorn
I like the machines I don’t like the guys tho
viral halo
I have a friend who doesn't belive in bisexuality and his arguments with bisexuals are peak humor
rose thorn
I remember when these were AOS monks
viral halo
Warhammer fantasy? Never heard of it, isn't that a FREEGUILD GENERAL
rose thorn
FUCKING FIRE UHH I LVOE THESE
shadow plover
Maybe I should get a third Arvus Lighter
celest dome
I have a friend who doesn't belive in bisexuality and his arguments with bisexua...
So what does he think of people who go out with both women and men ?
queen laurel
I didn't know Wolverine made a blood bowl team
viral halo
So what does he think of people who go out with both women and men ?
He thinks it's not possible
rose thorn
I didn't know Wolverine made a blood bowl team
HABABSHSBSBUBUA
arctic talon
Maybe I should get a third Arvus Lighter
bro has an arvus lighter addiction
shadow plover
it's the greatest little bird that ever flew
rose thorn
I’m quite fond of these
The generic mildly Viking asthetic of empire would look nice for kitbashes
viral halo
I wish they'd do a MTO of harry the hammer
viral halo
I can get it NIB for like 85 USD rn I was considering it
Some guy on ebay selling his fantasy collection in the original shrinkwrap etc for nothing
Really wanted to buy his Black Coach (model, not the left 4 dead character) but it's in a big lot
dusk patrol
I wouldn't be shocked if we see him get a celebration mini at some point.
shadow plover
this
two years till 40 year anniversary
although wouldn't be surprised if it were a 40k model given the 40 year anniversary
sly ivy
Damn what happened u people talk a lot
queen laurel
Yeah like the fellows here are people you know
sly ivy
Omg r u fighting over whfb
queen laurel
We talk a lot sometimes sometimes nothing
queen laurel
Omg r u fighting over whfb
What no
storm jungle
I dunno i was reading warhammer crime
queen laurel
I'm contemplating why the universe decided to create humanity
static wren
jerma
shadow plover
holy shit
sly ivy
I'm contemplating why the universe decided to create humanity
To produce me obv
shadow plover
queen laurel
To produce me obv
Yeah i will say one of the greatest fumbles of the universe that one
sly ivy
The universe does not fumble only ur limited understanding fumbles
spring cairn
Maybe I should get a third Arvus Lighter
the most aerodynamic you say ? One shudder to imagine the least.
rose thorn
Is the that even where that ship’s trustees are?
arctic talon
Is the that even where that ship’s trustees are?
No, but it’s in universe imperial propaganda
rose thorn
Ohhh
misty vector
you think this is a real view from imperial pilots?
that they are very much aware of obvious flaws in their design
rose thorn
Idk how common it is for pilots to know how their craft works
I’d ask my dad since he was a paratrooper but he lies like a bed
opaque coyote
I am fucking saving this image
opaque coyote
imaging making a weapon instead of a block that fires death
Tbh Tau Pulse Rifles are even more blocky than the Bolter
This is literally just a rectangle with a stock
The T'au and Imperium are interesting in that they have a familiar blocky aesthetic at times
Considering how the Tau are supposed to parody and be the "newcomers to the galaxy" similar to how humanity usually is
I do wonder if like
Humanity during the colonial age had similar technology
The Bolter design is implied to be way older than the DAoT after all
With the Votann having their own versions
Autoch Bolters in lore are often considered to be better than the Bolters the Imperium has
It makes me think.
Does the Imperium have a simplified version?
At least for the more common patterns.
vagrant fox
Not to try to insert logic into 40k, but probably since they were to be shit out by the assload during the crusade and power armour took care of most of the drawbacks
green loom
You also have guard/human bolters
And like the ones we use in game are pretty poopy garbo
vagrant fox
It's fine they don't matter just give them mounts for their heavy bolters
The only ordinary humans I know that use non heavy bolters en masse are the sisters who have PA
plush mason
tbf that is due to the cost
the guard gets the cheap shit and only the few elite get the good stuff
the SOB are funded by the ecclisiarchy which are rich as shit so they can afford to outfit them better, plus the SOB are way smaller than the guard
winter vessel
the SOB are funded by the ecclisiarchy which are rich as shit so they can afford...
Ah yes. Lets not forget the Weaponized Pipe Organ on Wheels, a prime example of good funding.
plush mason
yup lol
winter vessel
“Sister give me an E minor” rains hell on heretic entrenchments
vagrant fox
I see no problem with spending money on swag
winter vessel
I’d be critical. But the Sororitas are my 2nd most favorite faction
vagrant fox
I have a soft spot for them, I'd just like more variety between the orders
winter vessel
I have a soft spot for them, I'd just like more variety between the orders
You and me both. My favorite is the Order of the Sacred Rose, I consider them to be the nicest of the orders. Ebon Chalice and the Martyred Lady pretty much share the spotlight. You only see a few art pieces for ones like the Bloody Rose and Argent Shroud
storm jungle
"Nicest" Order is a low bar i think 😭
winter vessel
"Nicest" Order is a low bar i think 😭
not the exact word
hmm. Tolerable? Or just out of all the orders, Sacred Rose i find the pleasant
opaque coyote
Not to try to insert logic into 40k, but probably since they were to be shit out...
Yeah I think that's the same for the plasma rifles
Like they're mentioned to be powerful shit but also deadly to the wearer
And even without that it's pretty fucking annoying
Like imagine having to deal with the plasma steam venting
Our character literally pulls it away
winter vessel
Our character literally pulls it away
if you don't vent it, you can cook meat on that thing, lol
opaque coyote
And like the ones we use in game are pretty poopy garbo
The Bolters in Darktide are actually used by the Adeptus Arbites.
Which don't have PA but do use heavy body armor
Often Carapace
opaque coyote
hmm. Tolerable? Or just out of all the orders, Sacred Rose i find the pleasant
"Least likely to shoot you if you accidentally litter in front of a statue of the Emperor"
sly ivy
Arbites my beloved
opaque coyote
if you don't vent it, you can cook meat on that thing, lol
I'm now imagining a guardsman squad in their downtime pick up a pack of meat
The plasma gunner simply places the plasma gun down
And they just use it as a pseudo grill
sly ivy
Yes
winter vessel
the Ogryn pulls out a slab of grox meat from his bag and it starts sizzling
sly ivy
Canon
opaque coyote
the Ogryn pulls out a slab of grox meat from his bag and it starts sizzling
"Sah, I got this sah!"
"...where did you even get the meat from?"
"Sah... I'z not the smarterer. But I know a few things."
"...fuck it. Sure grill it."
storm jungle
"Least likely to shoot you if you accidentally litter in front of a statue of th...
I dont really remember them having a "nice" quirk aside from preferring to fight with masses of religious people.
All sororitas orders are some form of brainwashed psychopaths since they are essentially indoctrinated to be nutjobs
winter vessel
oh shut it you squirrel girl thirster dramatic png throw
opaque coyote
I dont really remember them having a "nice" quirk aside from preferring to fight...
Nice in terms of... Relative standards anyways
storm jungle
oh shut it you squirrel girl thirster *dramatic png throw*
Well yes I do have good taste in women
winter vessel
indeed you are
opaque coyote
Well yes I do have good taste in women
Original squirrel girl design
sharp pollen
Original squirrel girl design
omfg burn it
opaque coyote
Is it weird that I wish they kept the eyeshadow?
winter vessel
Original squirrel girl design
"let's see uhhh sea critters need uh..." sees adam's apple go up and down violently
dapper gyro
All sororitas orders are some form of brainwashed psychopaths since they are ess...
Because women are easy.
opaque coyote
I think she looks
"Okay" in some panels but in others she looks like she's gonna consume my soul
opaque coyote
All sororitas orders are some form of brainwashed psychopaths since they are ess...
You can say that for the Imperium.
But the sisters are on another level of religious fervor
storm jungle
You can say that for the Imperium.
But the sisters are on another level of reli...
Basically same thing amped up ye
sly ivy
Original squirrel girl design
Would
opaque coyote
Although it's neat how there is an ordo in the Sisters that basically are dedicated to helping people in the battlefield
Nurse nuns with guns (tm)
winter vessel
Hospitallers are good
sly ivy
All sororitas orders are some form of brainwashed psychopaths since they are ess...
Yes I love them
opaque coyote
Hospitallers are good
Yeah had the idea of a Nurgle corrupted Hospitaller
rose thorn
You and me both. My favorite is the Order of the Sacred Rose, I consider them to...
i forgot what they were called
opaque coyote
Imagined a scene where she'd immediately recognize the signs and basically shoot herself in a desperate attempt.
But she "regenerates" just enough to still be alive
But not only is she suffering
winter vessel
i forgot what they were called
Argent Shroud
rose thorn
oh yeah
storm jungle
Yes I love them
Yeet