40k-lore-chat

[raven stone]

...as someone not up to date with US drinks memes

what rat incident involving Mountain Dew?

[rose thorn]

“ WHO THE FUCK CARBONATED THE FUCKING EXTERMINATUS “

I’m sorry, did they kill GSC vehicle stealth and give it to guard

Did they remove most of GSC’s unique stealth gimmicks

For no reason

[hallow plover]

Please elaborate

[rose thorn]

Oh I know this

A guy found a rat in his Mountain Dew and called Pepsi

And then took them to court because he drank some of a rat

And Pepsi said that the can was made 4 months ago and Mountain Dew is so acidic that it is impossible to find a whole rat in it at the time

Because the rat would have completely dissolved

[hallow plover]

Based

[rose thorn]

they were wrong btw

At least tail and fur would have remained

Everything else would have become a jelly

[sly ivy]

Are we talking about furry vore

Oh I scrolled up it’s just a rat in soda

You people need to up your game

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/i-robot-no-nope-nah-disagree-gif-15992656

[humble shoal]

Vore is 0/10 unless its plane vore

[rocky gale]

Yo is that a Commissar tank?

[sharp pollen]

can it do executions on his tank-guardsmen?

[rocky gale]

Equipped with plasma so it can penetrate retreating Leman Russ battletanks

[crystal forum]

GUESS WHAT

you cant make this shit up

that's a leman russ executioner

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-its-all-coming-together-gif-12813012

[crystal forum]

that's what the plasma variant is called

[crystal forum]

looks like the commissar is the normal model

they cut off his legs and fit him in the hatch

[rocky gale]

Poor guy

[storm jungle]

I hate this model still, so much

literally looks like a Cadet Commissar

[crystal forum]

lol

[rocky gale]

Yea he's just standing there

[storm jungle]

Am I wrong tho

[crystal forum]

it does lack character

not angry enough

[storm jungle]

bruh

what the fuck discord

[crystal forum]

i like this one

[storm jungle]

Yeah like, he has no "high and mighty european officer" vibes about him

YEAH EXACTLY

like he has no menace

[crystal forum]

it would have looked better in the hatch

[sly ivy]

Y he kill rock w power sword

[crystal forum]

power sword dont care

power sword cut rock like butter

[humble shoal]

Idk he doesnt look like he would kill a man for complaining about the taste of their starch

Not cruel enough 0/10

[rocky gale]

The dumb thing is this guy released at the same time as the one of the guy standing still, they just made this version limited edition

[sly ivy]

He looks sad he should practice mindfulness

[storm jungle]

"limited edition"

oh my fucking god GW

[rocky gale]

Ye

[storm jungle]

lmao

[crystal forum]

limited because it's actually good

and they know you want it

[humble shoal]

Nothings limited if you have a 3d printer

[crystal forum]

depends if people bother scanning the model or may allah forgive me, modelling it themselves

[humble shoal]

Or you can just buy it from a chinese sweatshop

[crystal forum]

that works

[humble shoal]

For like 10 bucks including shipping

[crystal forum]

quality may vary

[humble shoal]

Remember when girly man came out some places were selling him for like 15 bucks

[humble shoal]

Quality will vary

[crystal forum]

that's the one thing GW has going

[humble shoal]

Also swore some of the better ones were russians so are probably gone

[crystal forum]

consistent quality

you can easily find girlyman proxies

it's a desired model

unlike a lot of guard stuff

most guard 1:1 model vehicles are made by 1 russian guy lol

[raven stone]

is reminded, and raging, over the fact that the updated Inquisitor is a subscription only item

[raven stone]

“Drive me closer…”

[green loom]

I need a funny turkish phrase

[dusk patrol]

Anneni sikeyim

[winter vessel]

he looks so bland

[storm jungle]

*Ananı sikiyim

is more correct

[storm jungle]

Orospu

[humble shoal]

Lol I tried to do a phonetic spelling and it got automodded

[crystal forum]

trying to say black in spanish

[storm jungle]

its *kum anyway

lmao

also its Selamünaleyküm

[winter vessel]

I remember Salahuddin saying that in the movie, Kingdom of Heaven

[crystal forum]

so you see every time my jokes get blocked

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

Yeah it basically means "may peace be upon you"

its used in a lot more casual manner like a "whats up" these days but it has a pretty good deep meaning

[crystal forum]

is there a turkish version of a passive aggressive phrase

[storm jungle]

Yes. Tons.

just like any language

[crystal forum]

no like "bless your heart"

[dusk patrol]

Is there a Turkish phrase for, how you say, joke?

[storm jungle]

Uh no, it depends

[storm jungle]

Şaka

[dusk patrol]

Şaka deez nuts

Got em

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/how-did-he-do-that-cat-levitate-levitating-cat-fly-cat-stairs-gif-18283921532728273216

[crystal forum]

do turkish people actually use hookas

[winter vessel]

yeah. Balian says the same in reply after he surrended Jerusalem over. Man I gotta watch that movie again, one of the few (dare i say only) good films taking place during the Crusades

[storm jungle]

Its very based, helps that it shows both sides in grey lights to a degree as wel

[dusk patrol]

No not once

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[dusk patrol]

They’ve never used them ever

[storm jungle]

Tho its very much in places like fancy old timey bars and shit

[winter vessel]

I saw one at a pawn shop

[storm jungle]

Lol yeah checks out

[dusk patrol]

We have a hookah place near me for no reason at all

Never been there though

[crystal forum]

like in indiana jones? :D

[storm jungle]

I mean

[dusk patrol]

No it’s more violent

[storm jungle]

hookas have a basic design so yes

Istanbul is also fully a desert and filled with markets

[crystal forum]

hipster location

[crystal forum]

are there fruit vendors everywhere

[rocky gale]

Baldwin and Salahuddin also say it to each other when they meet

[winter vessel]

I never knew how hookas were used until i saw gameplay of Metro 2033, where you can get high on that

[storm jungle]

No we arent in the 21st century yet

[crystal forum]

lmao

[storm jungle]

Yeah some slavic countries got some crossign cultural quirks with muslims so that checks out lol

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/allah-gif-2053259564556446362

[dusk patrol]

It’s a thing in a lot of places tbh, there’s a fair amount you can find in the US

[crystal forum]

i shit you not the average north american probably thinks people still live in mud houses in turkey

[storm jungle]

100% they do lmao

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah its very much "I saw cool foreigners use it so we brought it here"

[vagrant fox]

Turkey has that brown filter in the air like Mexico right

[dusk patrol]

They upgraded to stone awhile ago

[storm jungle]

the problem is they are mostly really shitty/shoddy

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[winter vessel]

the actor who played King Baldwin was very good

[dusk patrol]

Idk

Not very good facial acting

Pretty stiff the whole movie

[winter vessel]

you mean the kind of lighting filter in Resident Evil 5? even though that's on a completely different continent, lmao

[dusk patrol]

Yellow filter is Mexico and Africa

Brown is Middle East

[winter vessel]

what you talkin about?

[dusk patrol]

Also the heat wave hazing effect

And the “Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhyyyyyaaaaaaaaahhhhhyyaasaa” singing

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/zRzffFQnlSw?si=r8yP5E10VXdDXz23

[humble shoal]

I thought turkeys lived in the woods

[crystal forum]

i'd hit it

[rocky gale]

https://youtu.be/XQNnG0Jzans

[storm jungle]

"R.Kelly in Disney land" 💀

[hallow plover]

I don't even known anythibg about turkey. I just assume the men are hairy and they beat their kids like any good eurasian parents

[crystal forum]

one of the few types of tiktok videos i allow to exist is those with people all agreeing to add to the bit

[humble shoal]

Isnt Constantinople on the water

[crystal forum]

i think calling them eurasian will get you killed

[dusk patrol]

Nah they’ll just steal your ice cream

[hallow plover]

🤷‍♂️ canada's education system failed me

[winter vessel]

the one where he'll dip a whole ass tub's worth into a cone but then put it back?

[crystal forum]

it failed all of us

[hallow plover]

All that I know is that I must feel bad about the first nations

[dusk patrol]

You’re not wrong, Turkey is basically the textbook example of a Eurasian country

It’s in a very weird spot between borders

[hallow plover]

Also they like tea and coffee (I think)

[dusk patrol]

That narrows it down to every country on earth

[winter vessel]

i like boba tea

[sly ivy]

Outside of cities all Eurasians live in mud houses

[humble shoal]

I mean constantinople istanbul is basically on the border of africa europe and asia isnt it

[sly ivy]

The French just got the wheel last year

[hallow plover]

I can recognise their flag. Which is more than most of the euro countries

[sly ivy]

Canadians who are spiritual Eurasians haven't yet discovered the circle.

[humble shoal]

Turkmenistan is the meme country

[storm jungle]

No its a desert trust me

[humble shoal]

With their main attraction " the giant burning hole"

[sly ivy]

"trust me bro" what do u even know about Turkey pfff

[storm jungle]

Also correct

your average ogryn is what your average turkish guy looks like

(this isnt a joke)

[sly ivy]

based af

[winter vessel]

"okay so where the potluck gonna be at?"

[hallow plover]

The giant burning hole in our budget?

[dusk patrol]

https://youtu.be/JnX-D4kkPOQ?si=h66LV_vZfmIVxrup

[humble shoal]

Do you not know about the giant burning hole?

[humble shoal]

Lmao

[dusk patrol]

But enough about your mom

[humble shoal]

Didnt notice you posted the picture

[rocky gale]

Why don't they use it to make BBQ?

[sly ivy]

kebab

[dusk patrol]

They haven’t gotten that far in the tech tree

[winter vessel]

the fire hole is the equivalent of my Minecraft server's lava pit when i wanna throw my excess trash away

[humble shoal]

Is the video of the dictator driving a motercycle around the hole still up on the interwebs

[dusk patrol]

BBQ is a late game upgrade

[rocky gale]

Imagine how big of a doner kebab you could cook over that

[hallow plover]

Never heard of that before

It's pretty

[humble shoal]

Welp now you know the main attraction of turkmenistan

[winter vessel]

whole ass bridge to grill meat and vegetable on from one side to the other

[rocky gale]

Like just install a massive one of these over it and you're golden

[hallow plover]

Thanks, just saved me a trip

[sly ivy]

Americans in shambles we don't have biggest bbq pit

Texans on suicide watch

[winter vessel]

born and raised in the US of A, but even i think Anerican bbq here is kinda lacking

[sly ivy]

WAT

[dusk patrol]

https://youtu.be/_kuYB-8fjok?si=YASOGWY2f3ruKcMk

[sly ivy]

Have u been 2 the TX hill country

[dusk patrol]

You’re objectively wrong

[sly ivy]

And/or KC

[dusk patrol]

You’re just going to the wrong place

[sly ivy]

I guess the Carolinas have something they call bbq

[humble shoal]

You must be from the north like me

[dusk patrol]

Just go wherever Guy Fieri went when he was inevitably in your state smh

[humble shoal]

Or california

[dusk patrol]

North has good BBQ too

[humble shoal]

NJs barbecue is sorta weak

[dusk patrol]

Legit if you can’t find it, it’s a you issue

[humble shoal]

I know of like 2 good places for bbq

[sly ivy]

tf freezer burned mammoth is not bbq

[humble shoal]

Most guy fieri stuff in my state is pizzas and diners

[dusk patrol]

Well yeah it’s NJ

[humble shoal]

Indeed

[dusk patrol]

Do you think Texas invented cows

[sly ivy]

I know it did

[humble shoal]

They did in 1852

[dusk patrol]

False

Your mom did

[humble shoal]

Damn got me

[dusk patrol]

She set the standard

[sly ivy]

I have my bevo pillow in my office right here to remind me every day

[dusk patrol]

Now I’ll say it’s much easier to find good BBQ down south

[humble shoal]

Anyway us bbq also changes regionally

[dusk patrol]

But there’s no lack of it around

[humble shoal]

Interested in mass bbq

If I want good bbq I just make it myself

[dusk patrol]

Real

[rocky gale]

Damnit because of all the talk about Turkey has made me read about the Crimean war

[winter vessel]

well i'm not a big BBQ person. its nice, but it's not my biggest eats

[dusk patrol]

Don’t speak the deep magic to me

[humble shoal]

Keep in mind some places have different styles of bbq

I find the places by me in nj drown it in sugar too much

Removing the good meat flavor

[dusk patrol]

But yes good BBQ can be found everywhere, some places there’s more and I’d say the South definitely has the best

But it doesn’t mean it’s not everywhere still

[sly ivy]

KC bbq has to be balanced. It verges on too sweet.

[winter vessel]

frankly I'm borderline going to go Pescatarian to work my eating habits better

[sly ivy]

TX is not the South it is TX

[humble shoal]

You know its a good bbq place when the denizens of the place average 250 lb

[dusk patrol]

Tbh it’s not like Southern BBQ doesn’t drench stuff in sugar sometimes too

[humble shoal]

I mean yeah

[sly ivy]

based and brisketpilled

[dusk patrol]

Not totally wrong but still stands

[winter vessel]

yeah thats it. its the excess of sweetness on savory meats, that's the biggest turn off for me going to a BBQ restaurant

[humble shoal]

Anyway still mad that when I went to texas I couldnt try any bbq

[sly ivy]

TX bbq has 0 sweetness

[humble shoal]

Because it was labor day

[sly ivy]

And often is no sauce just rub

[sly ivy]

😦

[humble shoal]

Me and my dad worked to make some pork belly with mustard, salt, pepper, and Smoked paprika

[dusk patrol]

An impressive accomplishment tbh

[humble shoal]

Labor day=nothing non corporate being opened

[dusk patrol]

It’s hard to not accidentally stumble into a BBQ pit somewhere

[sly ivy]

I have my first brisket at the airport

[humble shoal]

Tbf I was there for a reason

[sly ivy]

The cowhands distribute them upon arrival

[humble shoal]

And couldnt wander (aunt had died and we were transferring cats cross country)

But yeah next time Im in barbeque country gotta find some

Like tennessee, louisiana, texas

[sly ivy]

Yes every day you are in Texas you must become progressively fatter and more constipated

[humble shoal]

God bless

Joel oelsteens heart

[dusk patrol]

Everyone should try deep fried Coke once

Truly the pinnacle of what our species can achieve

[humble shoal]

I need to try the devils food

Deep fried butter

[winter vessel]

appropriately named

[humble shoal]

Yes

From what Ive heard it is in fact butter

But deep fried

[sly ivy]

Old Worlders cannot comprehend

[sly ivy]

Ok what does that actually taste like

Looks like donut

[dusk patrol]

Deep fried with a coke flavor, it’s good but it’s also disgusting cause the insane calories

[humble shoal]

Cherry coke is the best flavor

Deep fried ice cream is the best though

[dusk patrol]

It’s basically a ball of deep fried batter with frozen coke in the middle

Yeah it’s basically deep fried ice cream

[humble shoal]

Yeah

Its good

[dusk patrol]

Deep fried Oreos are good too

[humble shoal]

Not worth the calories thougj

[dusk patrol]

Nope

Not at all

But it’s a fun novelty

[sly ivy]

True but like fancy Franch food like foie gras also has infinity calories tbf

And that stuff is creepy and kind of tastes like shit

[rocky gale]

Counterpoint, Scotland

[sly ivy]

Oh shit this is literally

Literally the first time I've actually felt thwarted

[dusk patrol]

The secret to French cuisine

[sly ivy]

You are right.

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/butter-gang-gif-14281566700503438166

[sly ivy]

Scots are spiritually American.

[rocky gale]

Honestly most local chippies will batter anything you bring them

[humble shoal]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkMUU9tUqk

[sly ivy]

Some Australians may also be see e.g. Mel Gibson

Who is also Irish American but we all know is actually Scottish

[sly ivy]

Powerful aura

[humble shoal]

As sam hyde said

He is the strongest irishman since william wallace 10000 years ago

[sly ivy]

So goddamn true I can't breathe

[rocky gale]

Mel Gibsons Irish?

[sly ivy]

Yes

He's Irish-American.

[rocky gale]

So not Irish

[humble shoal]

Americans keep their ethnicities

[sly ivy]

No

Most don't

[humble shoal]

As pokemon cards

[sly ivy]

But every Irishman is piloted by a little angry green man

[humble shoal]

Tell that to the germans, irish, scots, chinese, african, indian, pakistani, japanese, koreans

And latinos

[dusk patrol]

It’s relevant cause the ethnic makeup of the country as a land of immigrants

[humble shoal]

Yup

Also locations typically have some weird ethnic roots

like brooklyn and the eyetalian americans

LA Koreans and their roofs

[sly ivy]

No the ethnicity fades gradually with puberty sometimes after a bit of acne cream

[dusk patrol]

Theres some very odd subculture’s as a result of a lot of it

[sly ivy]

I started off as Indian American but now I'm just Idiot American

[humble shoal]

The guidos

[humble shoal]

God bless

[sly ivy]

🦅

[humble shoal]

By mean the indian american community is very active as well.... a community

[rocky gale]

See it comes to an issue when American talk about "Irish ethnicity", because Irish people generally don't consider ethnicity to be anything to do with being Irish.

[humble shoal]

I know

Its being from ireland

[sly ivy]

It's just the first gens

The second gens become idiots like me.

[dusk patrol]

Fortunately I don’t have to care what lame Europeans consider this or that

[humble shoal]

Nah this is seconds and thirds too (forced by the firstz)

[sly ivy]

A little after their voices break

False

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/george-washington-dodge-dodge-challenger-dodge-ad-revolutionary-war-gif-25299019

[humble shoal]

At least by me

Mind you they hate it

But the aunties refuse to let anyone leave the commune

[sly ivy]

They are caged idiots

Waiting to fly free

On the wings of freedom

[humble shoal]

Like a bird

A free bird

[vagrant fox]

I don't get the types like e.g. Irish Americans who're 4 generations deep acting like they know Ireland better than people living in Ireland

Very strange

[sly ivy]

yeah but man like they run great pubs in the northeast

[dusk patrol]

I’m not convinced this has ever happened

[sly ivy]

Wait actually the ones here are mostly by actual Irish first gens

Nevermind

[rocky gale]

It does

[sly ivy]

They uh

[dusk patrol]

It just means something different to people

[sly ivy]

Start a lot of great fights in the northeast

[vagrant fox]

My friend moved in with someone like that

[dusk patrol]

I’m being hyperbolic

[vagrant fox]

Or Quebecois who act like they're proper French

[dusk patrol]

I’m sure there’s a few dorks but Europeans are also extremely obtuse with what people mean when they’d say they’re Italian or Irish or whatever .

It’s a connection, that’s it

It’s the same as Irish people calling themselves Celts when they have nothing in common with that culture either really anymore

People like to know their history and belong to a group

[vagrant fox]

Just weird innit, yer a yankee

[dusk patrol]

They’re not saying they aren’t

[sly ivy]

bro I have several Italian friends and they have about 30 within-Italy races and a detailed hierarchy

[dusk patrol]

It’s the same as you saying you’re from some town

[rocky gale]

Like I've had Americans tell me they know more about Ireland than me because I've been colonised by the English and am not really Irish anymore.

[sly ivy]

My friend from Florence: "Sicilians arrrre Afrrrican"

[dusk patrol]

Or saying you’re from a family

[humble shoal]

Napolitan, sicialian

African

The american part is the most important part of x-american

[sly ivy]

Ok counterpoint tho they are genetically very similar to ancient Celts.

[dusk patrol]

And I’ve had Europeans try to explain my own countries history and politics to me, dorks are born every second

[sly ivy]

Lotso inbreeding er I mean

Local flavor

(we have ancient Celtic partial genomes)

[humble shoal]

Oy why dont you have trains going everywhere

Like we do in the 5 kingdoms

[sly ivy]

And I feel like the intangible parts of culture can last thousands of years.

[dusk patrol]

Did yew git shot at going to schewl everyday?

[humble shoal]

Yeah, we fired back like good americans

[sly ivy]

Our straight teeth help w the aiming.

[dusk patrol]

Of course I didn’t, I only got shot at once and returned precise accurate fire

And it didn’t happen again

[humble shoal]

Then the rest learned

[sly ivy]

Recon lasgun

[humble shoal]

I returned fire with my a10 warthog

[sly ivy]

lmao

[dusk patrol]

Shock and awe

[humble shoal]

Brrrrŕrrrrrr

[sly ivy]

True they sell those at Costco

[humble shoal]

I killed several us service members by accident

[sly ivy]

At the food court

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/a10-gif-25211968

[humble shoal]

God bless general electric

They are good at making things that spin

[dusk patrol]

Idk why they call it friendly fire

There’s nothing friendly about my fire

[sly ivy]

Tell that to my fucking washer dryer

always breaking

[humble shoal]

Have you tried strapping it to a plane?

[dusk patrol]

He didn’t say they were good at making them stop spinning

[sly ivy]

Good point

[sly ivy]

They're prob educated city Indians like most recent immigrants also. My people are literally redneck Klingons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBNUzOwELWg

[crystal forum]

i dont get why GE of all companies get memed for making guns when there's been much wackier things in american history alone

[sly ivy]

Literally this guy is probably my uncle

[crystal forum]

for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_tank

[humble shoal]

Texas instruments

[humble shoal]

Singer 1911

[tight stratus]

what is this gun called me and my friend and trying to find out

[humble shoal]

Looks like plasma

[tight stratus]

We know that much, Plasma-

[tight stratus]

Oh we think its culverin

[crystal forum]

a shoe company

[sly ivy]

That's a heavy arc rifle if I ever saw one

[humble shoal]

See the singer 1911s

That were so good the army said "you are too good you need to make missiles"

[sly ivy]

(I never saw one bc they don't exist)

[crystal forum]

Texas instruments makes all sorts of electronic components they're literally a main defence contractor

[dusk patrol]

WWI and WWII had a ton of weird shifts in companies making stuff for the war

[rocky gale]

Heavy Arc Rifle

[humble shoal]

I know but a lot of people just think of them as a calculator company

[tight stratus]

Thank you!

[rocky gale]

This is the Culverin

It's got curved coils rather than a cube

[humble shoal]

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/51/1954/singer-1911a1-pistol-price-80500

[crystal forum]

wartime economy stays based

[humble shoal]

Cost of a singer 1911

I mean the AR platform was made by an airplane company

[crystal forum]

GE making an electric powered gun is just not weird is all im saying

[dusk patrol]

The GE making the A-10 is jsut very iconic

[humble shoal]

Never said it was

[crystal forum]

yeah not you

[humble shoal]

They also make a lot of parts of the abrams right?

[crystal forum]

just the plebs making it into a meme

[humble shoal]

Or is that general dynamic

[dusk patrol]

It’s just funny cause it’s not something you’d associate with them

It makes sense

[humble shoal]

Reminds me, hopefully my lockheed application doesnt get rejected

[crystal forum]

it's as sensical as a train manufacturer making battleship cannon barrels

[sly ivy]

Wait is this a joke or real

[humble shoal]

Real

[crystal forum]

like when you think about it, it's genius

[sly ivy]

What position??

[crystal forum]

the tooling is right there

[humble shoal]

Entry level cyber security analyst

[sly ivy]

I don't work for them I just think they're cool

[humble shoal]

For new college grad

[storm jungle]

Bro I missed another weird tangent damn it

[arctic talon]

it is what it is

[crystal forum]

nearly had the chance to shit on my opinion

[storm jungle]

[humble shoal]

Do you know what the memiest us military device is

[sly ivy]

Lmao I thought you were just shaking your head silently this whole time

[humble shoal]

The HL

Hunley

[storm jungle]

Im very used to it at this point

[humble shoal]

Made by the confederacy

[storm jungle]

[humble shoal]

It was a submarine before they fogured out how to make the submarine surface

[crystal forum]

the virginia?

oh

[humble shoal]

HL Hunley

[rocky gale]

Nothing tops the UK's Dragonfire Lasers

Get Laserbeamed

[storm jungle]

holy shit helldivers

[arctic talon]

jesus christ

[storm jungle]

[humble shoal]

So the confederacy gave it a bomb on a stick

[storm jungle]

DEMOKKKRACY LETS GOOO

[gray tendon]

[arctic talon]

how much money did they spend on that laser lol

[humble shoal]

And sent it at an enemy ironclad

[sly ivy]

My in laws live in SC and this thing is a shockingly frequent topic of convo

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah the confederate sub LOL

[humble shoal]

Still has a better kd than the monitor

[crystal forum]

CSS monitor was a frankenstein made from a destroyer ironclad

[humble shoal]

Its in a museum there now right?

[sly ivy]

The monitor is the dumbest looking ship ever made change my mind

[sly ivy]

Yes

[crystal forum]

i think confederate engineers need more praise for making a monitor without an actual monitor

[humble shoal]

All of the civil war naval battles are hilarious

[arctic talon]

I think the Union should have split up the South more/hj

[sly ivy]

Wait isn't the monitor Union

[arctic talon]

yes

[humble shoal]

Because ironclads vs cannonballs

[arctic talon]

the Confederates made a replica

well

an equivelent rather

not a replica

[crystal forum]

yes it was actually world changing in its construction despite barely doing anything

[humble shoal]

Tbf they had a shipyard where they made ironclads

[arctic talon]

yeah

[crystal forum]

this is a trend in ship history btw

[humble shoal]

In I think VA

[arctic talon]

but like

[crystal forum]

the dreadnought literally didnt do anything

[humble shoal]

The yamato

Hehe

[crystal forum]

yamato didnt revolutionize shit

[humble shoal]

It would have won the war with its nippon steel

[arctic talon]

but it was funny how big it was

[crystal forum]

it was so outdated it barely had anti air defences

[humble shoal]

Folded.over 19000 times

[humble shoal]

I mean yeah

[arctic talon]

didn't it spend most of the war in harbor

lol

[sly ivy]

Yamato lmao

[arctic talon]

yeah it was built for a War that would never happen

so like

I think the design being somewhat flawed makes sense lol

[humble shoal]

Tbh gotta give credit to the japanese navy for doing so well without radar

[crystal forum]

a lot of early war japanese stuff was cutting edge

[arctic talon]

a lot of the interwar designs between WW1 and WW2 are neat

[crystal forum]

problem is by the time america entered it was outdated

[arctic talon]

not saying it wasn't

it was really good for the situations it was meant to be in

[sly ivy]

They just launched enslaved Koreans in all directions around the ship and listened for the splats

[arctic talon]

💀

[crystal forum]

like the a6m zero was GREAT... before americans

so they got kicked to the curb by american modern planes

[arctic talon]

Japanese in WW2 guns are funny

not because they're bad

but because they're like almost all designed by one dude

[crystal forum]

some were very bad lol

[arctic talon]

yeah

but thats not why they're funny

[crystal forum]

their HMG was a french WW1 design

[arctic talon]

which one

[crystal forum]

still used a feeding tray

[arctic talon]

the stripper clip one?

[crystal forum]

uuuh

no not the LMG

actually no feeding tray

[sly ivy]

Hope you get it!

[arctic talon]

Oh lmfao

the type 1

[crystal forum]

actually i should shut up, HMG's dont need to be cutting edge

[sly ivy]

Wait that's just the heavy arc rifle again

[crystal forum]

most of them were by WW2

british still used the vickers

[dusk patrol]

The Merrimack and the Monitors duel is one of my favorite random American Civil War moments

Also arguably one of the most impactful events of the war globally

[crystal forum]

revolutionized naval design despite being a draw lol

british were scrambling

tearing down every wooden hulled shit

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it completely changed naval warfare

[winter vessel]

I like the Ol'Lewis

[crystal forum]

the monitor's single turret actually was a big step up in design compared to having a ton of cannons for broadsides

[humble shoal]

Wasnt the co of the merrimack the former dean of the naval academy

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it was super unconventional for its time and is largely why it “won”

[humble shoal]

And he was temporarily blinded

[crystal forum]

that was the monitor

[humble shoal]

Ah

[dusk patrol]

Iirc they basically ran out of ammo and couldn’t really do anything to eachother

[humble shoal]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

guy was in the driver bell thing

the spall of the metal hit his eyes

[arctic talon]

this shit was so funny

[humble shoal]

Hence why the hunley has a better kd

[arctic talon]

the ships were like literally fine no?

but a chunk of the crew got messed up

[humble shoal]

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

But the Merrimack “lost” because it couldn’t keep its rampage going

[humble shoal]

Got injured by powder burns and bright lights

[crystal forum]

the CSS virginia won the fight in terms of union losses but union kept their blockade so eh

[humble shoal]

Hunley was more effective with a stick with a barrel on the end of it

[dusk patrol]

Yeah they destroyed a ton of ships but the objective was held

[crystal forum]

winning the battle vs winning the war

[humble shoal]

Tbf the confederates were great at winning battles

[crystal forum]

i love the monitor. it's such an interesting era of ship design

[humble shoal]

The war on the other hand...

[crystal forum]

sad that it was lost so stupidly

[humble shoal]

Bring it to a museum

[dusk patrol]

I think it is?

[crystal forum]

they did recover it

like a decade ago

[humble shoal]

Reminds me the NJ is supposed to be out of drydock this year I think

[dusk patrol]

I love the ironclad design

It’s such a strange era of warfare

[crystal forum]

the monitor is small thankfully so it fits on dry land in a museum

same cant be said for WW2 ships

[humble shoal]

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

The US civil war was pretty horrific in no small part to how weapons had advanced a lot but medical and tactics hadn’t caught up

[humble shoal]

But they make great museum ships

[crystal forum]

it's a similar reason for why i love single shot breech loaders like the martini henry. it's such a tiny portion of history where an unimaginable amount of progress was made

[humble shoal]

Vicksburg was a good example of what was to come some 60 years later

the trenches

[crystal forum]

people think WW1 was the cornerstone for warfare but the late 1800's were crazy

[arctic talon]

Europe was watching very curiously at the war

[humble shoal]

WW1 showed that no europeans looked at the civil war with any thpugjt

[arctic talon]

Which is always intresting

and then we learned nothing as a species tactics wise and World War 1 happened

[humble shoal]

Yup

Then at the end

The germans fogured out the concept of stormtroopers

[arctic talon]

too little too late

[humble shoal]

Like 3 years too late to make a difference

WW1 also finally was the end of traditional calvalry

I still think Joe Medicine Crow Jr should have been given his war chief status

[crystal forum]

good riddance

the horse still stuck around for WW2 though

[arctic talon]

wait did he not get it?

[humble shoal]

Jr no

[arctic talon]

yeah but not in a traditional sense

[humble shoal]

Jr was vietnam

[arctic talon]

Oh

[humble shoal]

He did all of the other ones

But stole a pack of elephants

[crystal forum]

instead we got scout tanks!!!

[humble shoal]

Which the council argued were not horses, no no war chief status

[dusk patrol]

They should have counted vehicles but whatever

It’s a stupid technicality

[humble shoal]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

can your horse do what this fucking thing can

[humble shoal]

Joe Medicine Crow got SS horses, so he got war chief status

[crystal forum]

puma <3

[dusk patrol]

Like I can’t imagine actually being such a prick that you have a dude who did all that, but then you go “urm ackshually”

[humble shoal]

Right

Now that I think about it, a crow could have gotten war chief trials done in Afghanistan

Cuz the taliban used tons of horses

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I was gonna say

[crystal forum]

i dont get what this is about

who's crow

[dusk patrol]

War Chief trials

[humble shoal]

Do you know about the Crow tribe of native americans?

[dusk patrol]

They have to do certain things

One is a steal a horse

[humble shoal]

Defeat a man without killing him

[dusk patrol]

The last Crow War Chief was anointed during World War II

[humble shoal]

And lead a raiding party with no fatalities

[dusk patrol]

It’s more just like

A formality

[dapper gyro]

It is all cavaleries.

[crystal forum]

no

[crystal forum]

who's in charge of the trials

[dusk patrol]

But anyways there’s been some who have done similar things after but they didn’t steal horses

[humble shoal]

The elders of the tribe

[dusk patrol]

So it didn’t count

Cause the Elders are dorks

[crystal forum]

so not people who are war chiefs themselves

[humble shoal]

Nope

[dusk patrol]

No one alive is

There was maybe one alive during Vietnam

And it’s not a real thing really

[humble shoal]

Joe died in 2016

[dusk patrol]

It’s more just an honorific

[crystal forum]

does war chief give someone authority

[dusk patrol]

Not during that era

[crystal forum]

maybe the elders just dont want that

[dusk patrol]

But maybe unofficial

[crystal forum]

bitter old people exist in every culture

[humble shoal]

Its basically a hero of the tribe

[dusk patrol]

NA tribes often have shit leaders so

It doesn’t surprise me

[crystal forum]

i've heard of good ones and bad ones yeah

the bad ones sell their tribes away for cash basically

[humble shoal]

But yeah tbf the vietnam guy (who was the son of the last war chief) I think his father was forced to recuse himself

Despite being the most authoritative on the matter

[dusk patrol]

I’ve worked on some reservations and yeah some chiefs are horrible people

They have a shitton to authority too

[humble shoal]

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

But there’s also some who are great

[crystal forum]

native americans are really into the respect your elders thing which can lead to some douchy old people

like you see in japan

[dusk patrol]

Yeah if it’s allowed to fester

You get some terrible leadership

It’s hard to replace them a lot of times too

[crystal forum]

i like the idea of giving respect to older people but they dont deserve my respect just for being old, personally

assholes grow old too

[dusk patrol]

But there’s also so many different tribes and they’re run so differently

[humble shoal]

Elders have to have done something other than just outlive everyone else to have my respect

[dusk patrol]

I’ve seen both.

It gets really messy too with blood quantum stuff and the whole issues with marrying outside the tribe

[humble shoal]

Try to call an apache a crow

[dusk patrol]

And if there’s a casino the money from that

[humble shoal]

[crystal forum]

casinos are such a mixed bag with tribes. i hate the idea that all of them benefit their community

a bunch dont help anyone except the rich people in the tribe

[dusk patrol]

They definitely can but if the chief and council suck then

It generally just goes to a few families yeah

[crystal forum]

some do distribute the earnings to everyone which is so cool

[viral halo]

We have returned to a punisher PFP

[vagrant fox]

mahvel

[celest dome]

Using the royal We I see

[tight stratus]

Been watching Pariah Nexus 😭 By far my favorite warhammer+ series so far

[arctic talon]

Sa’kan deez

[tight stratus]

oof that ending

right in the feels

[storm jungle]

Im glad that child got to safety

[arctic talon]

It is what it is

[tight stratus]

[arctic talon]

Yes, safe

[storm jungle]

[tight stratus]

Even the NECRONS were not as CREUL as to kill that family. You have me choosing necrons of the imperium

how in the heavens

[storm jungle]

I mean

if any of those kids survived they'd have been slave labor either way

its why I love the ending since it reminds people no matter what "good" people in the system do, imperial citizens will always suffer

its great

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/darius-vs-trundle-noxus-season-gif-6899815188231333856

[storm jungle]

AAA-

[arctic talon]

Wrong gif wait

Whatever

[arctic talon]

I LOVE MANUFACTORUMS

[storm jungle]

Gotta keep up the production gotta keep up the production GOTTA KEEP UP DA PRODUCTIOOOOON

🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[vagrant fox]

Not making ammunition for the Emperors armies is treason

[storm jungle]

To reason is Treason

[vagrant fox]

Yea fuck them kids

[winter vessel]

-the Drukhari

[storm jungle]

They'd prob wear em as skinsuits

Actually doing the act is more an imperial nobility thing

[vagrant fox]

Soft vellum booties

[crystal forum]

ending sucks

i hate forced grimdark

[storm jungle]

its not forced

its very in character for imperials to do

and very well setup in the pariah nexus lore lol

idk why people expect guardsman to be virtues of heroism

[tight stratus]

The two shows ive been enjoying much so far were Pariah Nexus and the first two episodes of hammer and bolter (not seen the others yet)

Hammer and Bolter is crazy good, me and two other friends have been really enjoying those so far

[storm jungle]

Aside from the lack of frame rates H&B is really fun

Im also jealous of people getting to explore WH+ in its current state lol

[tight stratus]

The last one I saw was about the library and the people that count the books

that was such a fun one

real goosebumps vibe

[storm jungle]

Lmao "goosebumps"

[tight stratus]

R.L stein not the phenomena

[storm jungle]

thats such a good comparison

[sly ivy]

You will like The Tithes and Interrogator (watch full movie), and the Angels of Death prequel (Angels of Death has its moments too).

[tight stratus]

Me and my friends really disliked Angels of Death

Too dark to see much of anything, and the bits we do see were very kinda "eh" to us

[sly ivy]

The prequel is about the shipmistress and the ship

Totally different.

Interrogator I kind of want to see redone in color 3d. It's a little mini Eisenhorn type gritty inquisition story.

It's worth watching for the story and acting.

[tight stratus]

I was saying to a friend in DM's just a moment ago. It'd be really nice for them to release a long-running thing that you could jump in and out of as you want.

Soap-opera but less affairs and cheating and more Game of Thrones-ey. Just so it'd give me reason to keep up with something warhammer-ey to watch and reason to continue to sub for warhammerplus

[sly ivy]

Yes

Tho to be honest 40k could use more affairs and cheating

Too sexless

[storm jungle]

Its absolutely one of the worst imo

The shaky cam and the weird mocap stuff legit was just so ass lol

[sly ivy]

Yeah it does not look good.

[storm jungle]

Yeaaaah

its great in still-shots at least

lol

[sly ivy]

But the voicework is sometimes great.

[storm jungle]

Yeah because they had actual GW actors

i know those old man voices anywhere

👂

[sly ivy]

hehehehe

[tight stratus]

It felt like youtube machinima's circa 2008ish.

The voicework was decent. But then the only action we get is either in complete shadowey darkness or still frames of what you could be watching?

Nah

[storm jungle]

LOL

[sly ivy]

Yeah that was early days lower budget.

I'm glad they decided to get more serious.

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568118870913581080/893109104472637450/screen-capture_online-video-cutter.com.mp4?ex=677fbe2b&is=677e6cab&hm=a43d4b82b760f49607bcad193c6208071073a3871aa4fecddcc68d1cb931617d&

like I legit

[sly ivy]

The Tithes is decent.

[storm jungle]

got disoriented watching this

[tight stratus]

I'll be sure to check out Tithes

[arctic talon]

I hate shakey cam spam

[storm jungle]

Same

[arctic talon]

Cadians canonically say Fuck

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[storm jungle]

also I HATE how underrated Interrogator is, its such a good series

[arctic talon]

Interrogator is good story wise

If you can get past the animation

[storm jungle]

I think its good

deffo a lot better than early Hammer & Bolter

[arctic talon]

Hammer and bolter is literal Russian roulette

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[sly ivy]

don't u understand it's transhuman dread it's meant 2 make u vom and shit ur pants

[tight stratus]

Pariah Nexus gave me an appreciation with how correct Darktide got the maps too. I recognized really stupid details in it like some of the cargo containers and small random bits that is like "Oh yeah I know that from darktide, cool"

[storm jungle]

Lmao dude im glad im not alone in that

"HOLY SHIT THE LANDING PADS"

"OH MY GOD I KNOW THOSE CARGO CONTAINERS"

[sly ivy]

hahahaha yes

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

I own one of those landing pads

[storm jungle]

Lmao yeah

like the game uses an extreme amount of grognard-tier miniature stuff

even shit like the wall charges and shit

its so good

[sly ivy]

Darktide visuals are so goddamn good'

[arctic talon]

Me soyjacking when the rejects use the gsc demo charge

[tight stratus]

I was straight up expecting that grenade to stick to the necron like the sticky bomb surprise

I was listening for the CLUNK

[arctic talon]

Shame it’s a frag and not a krak

Kraks look funny

So smooth

[tight stratus]

A part of me also forgets how wordy Necrons are. My friend explained to me they're pretty much shakesperian in how flowery they are word wise.

But in my head I've always seen them as wordless sorta get the job done and die sorta guys. Makes them almost comedic sometimes

(not a bad thing)

[sly ivy]

newcron vs oldcron vibe tension

many such cases

[tight stratus]

Me when im really thirsty in the Hive

[arctic talon]

Mmmm water

[sly ivy]

I have become so Darktide brained I immediately heard "Tertium's water supply blah blah blah"

[storm jungle]

LOL

The rot consumes 💀

[crystal forum]

krak being smooth is such an odd 40k design choice to me

you'd think they would make krak a more imposing looking grenade

[storm jungle]

I mean

its job is to blow up

i dont think intimidation is important

lol

[dapper gyro]

In the lore the krak can kill SM, but of course the SM slaves never accept that as their SM are too awesome to get blasted by it.

[crystal forum]

im talking aesthetics

[storm jungle]

I mean same thing

its a grenade

[crystal forum]

from the model perspective

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

It’s supposed to evoke the idea of it being magnetic

I’d assume

Since magnets irl are flat

[crystal forum]

people put thought into the models when they create them

[storm jungle]

Perish.

[arctic talon]

Also kraks didn’t show up on minis

Until killteam

Before it was only frags visually

Kraks only existed in art

[crystal forum]

really?

[arctic talon]

Yep!

[crystal forum]

i thought there was a bunch of art

[arctic talon]

It’s really weird

Art only

Not on minis

[tight stratus]

Oh also. The bit with them krieg zombies overpowering the necron with just their hands? Arnt necrons stupid strong made of insane impervious metals???

[arctic talon]

Yeah that part makes 0 sense

Lol

The necron should just beat them to death

[crystal forum]

wasn't the necron super damaged

[dapper gyro]

Even in arts, krak is very generic.

[arctic talon]

Their teleportation module thingy was

But not their arms or legs

[crystal forum]

well poxwalkers can be absurdly strong so why not necron zombies

[tight stratus]

They were krieg zombies

[arctic talon]

Because they’re just mindshackled dudes

Iirc

[vagrant fox]

Don't worry it's just meant to be cool

[arctic talon]

Real

[crystal forum]

powered by necron™️

[dapper gyro]

My daily: I hate Krieg.

[arctic talon]

Heard

[tight stratus]

I guess I never thought the brainwashing having bonus physical effects

[crystal forum]

i like krieg because im not a hater like you guys

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1281431334048239656/Untitled_Project_V13.gif

[vagrant fox]

I like Krieg as a logical extreme of the Imperium, the fanboys ruin it

[arctic talon]

I’m indifferent on krieg

I have another gas mask regiment I like

[crystal forum]

the fanboys dont ruin anything for me because i only use this channel

[dapper gyro]

Correction, I hate Krieg fans.

[winter vessel]

that's better

I like them aesthetic wise.

[normal light]

Vostroyans Firstborn

[sacred ginkgo]

How did neither of you mention the railings

They are in like

[vagrant fox]

Poostroyans more like it

[sacred ginkgo]

Every not fucked up factorum kit ever

[tight stratus]

Hellsing abridged rings in my head when I hear about krieg fans. "I was right. It was the fucking..." The major interjects with the next word

[storm jungle]

I hate Krieg because im a hater like my guys

[normal light]

🤨

[storm jungle]

LOL

i did say "every grognard-tier detail"

its very nice

[vagrant fox]

I'm a Cain hater, what can I say

[crystal forum]

dilara abusing the G word

[normal light]

Is it meant to be an answer on my question?

[vagrant fox]

Not at all

[crystal forum]

what question

you just said vostroyan

[normal light]

Well, I intended to question: why poostroyans?

[crystal forum]

because poo funny

[normal light]

Ok, seems reasonable to me

[vagrant fox]

Hating is a hard job, and someone's gotta hate guard regiments

[crystal forum]

not me

i love all of them

except the ones i hate

[vagrant fox]

Mordian Iron Guard? More like morbious

[winter vessel]

Neither of my favorite Airborne Militarum Regiments will ever be favored.

[crystal forum]

mordians are cool

[winter vessel]

The kill team trailer for 2024 gave me false hope. But it was just for their Tempestus Aquillons

[storm jungle]

Elysians will return in KT

its a good money bait

[crystal forum]

get used to aquilons

[arctic talon]

Elysians if they’re in KT will play differently

[arctic talon]

Because 10 bodies vs 14

[crystal forum]

they just added aquilons tho

[normal light]

Seems questionable

[arctic talon]

And they’re a standard team

Not a horde one

[storm jungle]

Will return. Not instantly, you fucking dingus

[crystal forum]

yeah so just repaint them as elysians

[storm jungle]

How

they literally look nothing alike

[arctic talon]

Elysians would prolly play differently

If they get added to KT

[storm jungle]

KT is here to produce a small team of miniatures and save on money while making people buy cool looking models, its pretty logical

[arctic talon]

Aquillons can take a hit

[normal light]

Mass deployment into the middle of the field?

[arctic talon]

LOL

[crystal forum]

oh ofc literally every faction and sub faction will be a KT one day unless the sun explosion in billions of years will stop GW

[winter vessel]

they can find EDT minis via Forge World, but basically just Ebay

[storm jungle]

You do realise this literally is the case right

[normal light]

I just genuinely don't understand how they can be played differently from Aquillons

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Aquillons while I bitch are a guard team are pretty unconventional rules wise

[storm jungle]

they literally fucking added

beastmen

kroot

vespids

so much random shit

[crystal forum]

that's why i said the words i used

[arctic talon]

Squishier, worse guns, more board control

[storm jungle]

Im gonna use your ass in a minute

shoving this up its-

[crystal forum]

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[normal light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1316617678957580329/attachment-14.gif

[vagrant fox]

Don't erp here

[arctic talon]

Aquillons aren’t board control focused

They’re a murder team

[storm jungle]

Still cant get over this

christ

[crystal forum]

lol

i dont get it but it's well done

[arctic talon]

Bruh what the fuck is going on in Deadpool

[winter vessel]

my favorite artwork of them. Its a shame that their main engagements typically has them getting beaten/ shit on. Which, If i reflect on WW2 history, Airborne drops had a very high mortality rate

[arctic talon]

Elysians much like irl paratroopers

[tight stratus]

What a genestealer would say trying to fit into society by saying such a nothing statement

[normal light]

Veteran Guardsman but more mobile, maybe a bit more fragile.

[arctic talon]

Get fucked regularly

That would prolly apply to elysians yeah

[crystal forum]

oooh i thought the guy was just bald and very wrinkled

[storm jungle]

Jay did always strike me as a Genestealer

[storm jungle]

BRUH

with guys like this

no wonder GSC infiltrate society so easily

[tight stratus]

Thats how it spreads

[arctic talon]

Average imperial citizen

[winter vessel]

yep, but i like their style.

[normal light]

Okay, should we take him to the burning pyre?

[dapper gyro]

On WW2? Airborne troops always have high casualty rate.

[arctic talon]

There’s a more recent war

[crystal forum]

he might ask me weird questions like what the codes to the ammo depot is but he's purple so i like him

[arctic talon]

With an example of that as well

[dapper gyro]

It is now reserved as advanced training for a reason.

[storm jungle]

Maybe later

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

[winter vessel]

Russian VDV

[arctic talon]

Special military operation

[crystal forum]

dont forget the germans had paratroopers and they sucked

[winter vessel]

I just have a bias because I watched Band of Brothers when i was 8

[normal light]

Well it seems that deploying your forces in enemy rear and being bad with timing can be indeed disastrous

[green loom]

Hungarians and Italians both had paratroopers
Never hear of them since they sucked

[vagrant fox]

Well did okayish on Crete didn't they

[green loom]

First use of new concept

[sacred ginkgo]

This is slightly amazing

[green loom]

Prolly helped

[crystal forum]

americans did it but with a lot of fucking people and more importantly it was to help a main assault

[normal light]

Well, it didn't go smoothly either

[crystal forum]

it did end up winning the war!

[normal light]

cough cough Allies did end up winning the war

[crystal forum]

that's what im saying