40k-lore-chat

[queen laurel]

what about the rats and the magic birds

[rose thorn]

Rats have their battletome and have shut down alot of factions

Magic birds are probably the best chaos faction last I checked

[queen laurel]

damn Tzeentch

[rose thorn]

*technically the maggotkin lost a unit but no one cares

The plague coven?

I think

It was 3 wizards in one unit

It was very funny

I forgot you can see everything that got errata in the wh AOS app

[queen laurel]

Did they offer anything to the army that was so important that removing them is devastating or are they just like units you can take

[rose thorn]

You could only take them in 1 subfaction

And it was 100 dollars because you had to buy the sorcerer model 3 times

And it was literally 3 sorcerers

[queen laurel]

yeah no one will miss that

[royal falcon]

I miss when you could make a full maggotkin army out of two sets of blightkings and a great unclean one

[rose thorn]

I’m not sure how good wizard spam MoG is right now

MOG?

MON

[rose thorn]

That sounds amazing

Holy shit blight kings are 190 points lmao

[arctic talon]

Most people I've seen paint his face as a mask

[rocky gale]

It's a great model if you just don't include the T-posing Teclis

[hallow saddle]

the moggingkin of nurgle

[queen laurel]

i will break your spine

[crisp heath]

Majorkill is the best loretuber, no doubt

[green loom]

Me when major kill tries making a joke(the joke is domestic abuse)

[barren prawn]

why does the wiki look like this? https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

what happened 😭

i was trying to read about shards of magnus

[outer wave]

Looks fine to me, unless you were looking for the 40k wiki and not the Lexicanum

[barren prawn]

ok apparently it decided to not work on chrome anymore

nvm google was directing me to the mobile version

which bricked the site

[young pecan]

What is the coolest Nurgle-related fact we know

[barren prawn]

thet BoN just wanna play :333

[young pecan]

How Ku'gath was made was pretty cool too

[queen laurel]

Rotigus moments

[young pecan]

Nurgle watching in a mix of horror and pride as his one-foot tall Nurgling drank gallons and gallons of foetid disease soup

[young pecan]

Like what?

[queen laurel]

Every single one of them

Oh you want rain?

Let me make it rain so much in your planet that you drown

[crisp heath]

Why is noone upset? I specifically requested it.

[celest dome]

Nobody care about Major
Now ||Arch|| that would be a controversial statement

[storm jungle]

^

Major is literally a shill dude-bro

like, thats kind of it, theres nothing else to say

lol

[outer wave]

Majorkill from what I know is a bit edgy and annoying but not a horrible person

[storm jungle]

^

[outer wave]

Arch however

[storm jungle]

Also that yeah

[outer wave]

ARCH HOWEVER

[storm jungle]

Arch is straight up a nazi

[queen laurel]

Yeah we genuinely just

Don't give a s*** about major

[storm jungle]

I still CANNOT believe the fucking company itself reached out to ask him to change his name.

[queen laurel]

Arch can be the next everchosen

And lead all four of the chaos gods

To victory no problem

[outer wave]

Maybe if he were still Arch Warhammer, but since GW basically send him a cease and detest, I dont think he has a chance of being Everchosen

[queen laurel]

Yeah like

[storm jungle]

Yeah hes been shilling for years now

[queen laurel]

You know you are so horrific

[storm jungle]

hes basically moved onto being like

makes video complaining about gay people

woke™️

thats kinda it

[queen laurel]

That the company that made the fictional setting you make videos told you to stop

[crisp heath]

Lool

[outer wave]

Watch leaks come out that Arch is actually gay

[storm jungle]

thats always my favorite cliche

people that hate queer peeps almost ALWAYS turn out to be into them

its like those racist white supremacists that secretly wanna be with black people 😭

like my man WHAT

[outer wave]

It really is self hatred that drives that kinda thing huh? That and power/greed/blah blah blah

[queen laurel]

Me watching a karen go out of her way to be racist even though her gardener is a different race

[young pecan]

Do NOT ask the Conservative government official why they received seven different house visits from small-framed men in a span of two days

[queen laurel]

Do you think he's the one that started that dumb trend

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[storm jungle]

No lmao

[queen laurel]

Because i have seen more and more Woke Criers

[storm jungle]

culture war stuff like that has been going on for years before him

[queen laurel]

Nowadays

[queen laurel]

I mean in like warhammer

[storm jungle]

Nah same thing

[young pecan]

I think Warhammer just attracts those kinda people naturally

[queen laurel]

Yeah that is an unfortunate side effect of the setting

[young pecan]

Some media has a certain brand of nerd aura that those people cling to

[queen laurel]

Average helldivers fan

[outer wave]

That and it was mostly via the tabletop game that you interacted with people, so only a real niche of people you could talk to about the universe

[young pecan]

"I love America!" (unironic)

What are probably the most and least racist faction fans

I feel like orks are up there on least racist but dunno

[storm jungle]

Any non-imperium one

[young pecan]

I know Grey Knights are a pretty bad one

[storm jungle]

its always imperial fans that sometimes turn out to be awful people

ones with space marine pfps especially

they are always some shade of asshole to a degree

I say this as a person thats been into the hobby for 12 years lol

[queen laurel]

All right plant your storm shields i can hear an Eternal storm brewing up

[vagrant fox]

Nuh-uh it's the taulets

[outer wave]

Yeah the amount of times Ive seen a SM pfp guy going off about X race in this server

Its a few times

[storm jungle]

^^^^^^^^^^

its actually not even funny anymore

like im tired of it lol

[queen laurel]

Yes seriously

Like

If they have an imperium or space marine pfp

[young pecan]

I feel like Mechanicus is the least problematic flavor of Imperium fans

Or some guardsmen fans

[queen laurel]

I am going to be almost always on the defensive and be cautious

[outer wave]

I dont see it as often now since Darktide released, but Im sure Dilara and the rest of the mods see ALOT of it

[vagrant fox]

Guard fans just can't stop thinking about big manly balls for long enough to care about anything else

[young pecan]

That's one way to put it

[queen laurel]

Honestly it really is funny that most of incredibly problematic parts of the community is literally just the imperium fans

[vagrant fox]

It's very interesting, I assume they don't have media literacy

[queen laurel]

Yeah you don't see much of the other fans of the other factions defend the bad actions of their factions

Like ork fans and chaos fans just like being bad guys for the most part

Of course no one is perfect but it's still incredibly hilarious

[vagrant fox]

Well I see some people defending tyranids by claiming they're just hungry smile, but man

[storm jungle]

its the worst

"well we cant apply human morals to-"

yes we can

lol

[queen laurel]

I don't care applying human morals on these things they ate my family and they are evil

[vagrant fox]

Imperium and Tau defence forces annoy me the most. Just embrace being a sunday cartoon villain like a chad

[queen laurel]

I wonder how much people will defend tyrannids if you make them watch one eat their family

[queen laurel]

Literally defending the mind controlling empire and the hyperreligious war machines that would skin you alive for being a little bit more different

Some people

[outer wave]

I think GW really needs to embrace that the Imperium being the POV faction we see things through doesnt mean they should always be the protagonists or even the "good" force in a scenerio. They got a bad thing of making the Imperium looking more angelic and good vs the big bad chaos people, which unintentionally enforces the idea that Imperium is good.

Or fans should get better at reading literature lmao

[sly ivy]

Humans are good

I think they do a good job of showing individual goodness in a terrible system

Corollary aliens are bad. Purge.

[queen laurel]

Individuals yes

But the system

[outer wave]

^

[queen laurel]

No the system is not

The imperium has literal concentration camps torture chambers

Literally sacrifices people to power their suffering god

[sly ivy]

All true but he is a god and there are literal demons

[queen laurel]

End of course the absolute oppression that they do on the daily basis that is apparently a blessing

[vagrant fox]

I think people will defend a lot of pov characters even if they heinous things. It's something that I don't understand really

[queen laurel]

Like they say that dying for the emperor is a good thing

You are nothing to the imperium but a cog to the machine

And sometimes another life is just grease

To keep the machine going

[sly ivy]

Like a world with actual gods and demons makes some archaic practices seem… rational?

some.

[storm jungle]

Everyone is terrible

humans are not good

thats the entire point

[sly ivy]

Humans are good

[crisp heath]

ACKSHUALLY there is a point to be made that "human" morals aren't even human in the sense that they come from pure reason and therefore to act morally good often requires us to disengage our human, all too human urges.
So any finite being gifted with reason and understanding, we could demand of them that they see moral truths as we can, even aliens.

[storm jungle]

No : )

[sly ivy]

I am a human. I am good.

Logical conclusion

Humans are good

[queen laurel]

Yeah but so is jeffrey dahmer

[sly ivy]

Airtight

[storm jungle]

Nooo dont hit me with the philosophy my wallnut brain cant take this AAA

[queen laurel]

Is human

[sly ivy]

Airtight

[queen laurel]

So what's your point

[sly ivy]

Monke good

[crisp heath]

This is a logical non-sequitur

[vagrant fox]

Philosophy in Warhammers? Counterpoint, abandon reason know only war

Ez

[outer wave]

WAIT HUMAN URGES ARE GOOD, HUNGER AND THIRST IS GOOD BECAUSE IT MAKES US WANNA EAT AND DRINK THEREFORE worship chaos.

[sly ivy]

Airtight

Me good monke good

Modus monkeus

[storm jungle]

What in the-

[sly ivy]

Yes! Yes. Wait.

Waiiiiit

[crisp heath]

If i have the urge to steal from your wallet, because i would feel better if i could afford a new car, does that make the action: stealing from you, good?

[sly ivy]

Know only Him

[queen laurel]

All right you Fujoshi, let me get you complimentary astarion and Marazhai body pillows to cure your illness

[sly ivy]

Slaanesh says YES

[vagrant fox]

I've been talking with a friend about the trouble of nuance. You cast a few Night Lords in a vaguely sympathetic light and suddenly people want to fuck them

[storm jungle]

Yeet

[vagrant fox]

Ridiculous people

[storm jungle]

Again remember

[sly ivy]

I think most people get nuance tbh and are just having fun

[outer wave]

Yes.

[crisp heath]

Slaanesh would offer no pretense that the actions it recommends are morally good

[sly ivy]

Based

[storm jungle]

the writer of Curze's novel literally called people that want to fuck him similiar to those sociopathic girls that infatuate with serial killers IRL

[crisp heath]

Ok omw 2 steal from u babe

[storm jungle]

and hes not wrong

lmao

[sly ivy]

Slaanesh is made of elf therefore bad

[storm jungle]

Elves are based

[outer wave]

OMG thanks babe <3 uwu owo

[storm jungle]

so its automatically good

[sly ivy]

Humans good other species bad

[storm jungle]

Silence Adolf

[sly ivy]

Chimps are ok

[storm jungle]

take your chimp fetish OUTSIDE

[sly ivy]

orangs tolerable

[vagrant fox]

50/50 at best imho. A lot of people struggle with not thinking in entirely good/bad binaries

[queen laurel]

Look whatever you believe in is nice but joseph stalin doesn't have the power to undo all of those atrocities

[sly ivy]

Gibbons right out

[storm jungle]

funny you mention that

[sly ivy]

Stalin was anti some humans therefore bad

[storm jungle]

Stalin also had a experiment

to create super chimp soldiers

[queen laurel]

Why am i not surprised

[storm jungle]

ikr

[sly ivy]

Humans good other species good in proportion to phylogenetic affinity

[storm jungle]

bro literally had nothing to do

[sly ivy]

Aliens bad

[outer wave]

We could have been living in a world where the Russians created Russian Gorilla Grodd, damnit

[storm jungle]

its like Castro making supercows to create better ice cream

[vagrant fox]

Didn't a woman volunteer to get chimp pregnant when the chimps couldn't get human pregnant or something

[storm jungle]

(yes this is real)

[sly ivy]

Based

[crisp heath]

Hehe i like the subtle humor

[storm jungle]

YES

[outer wave]

Jesus Christ

[queen laurel]

Fuck me

[vagrant fox]

Women ☕

[queen laurel]

It's one of those days again

[outer wave]

Women when

Animal

[crisp heath]

Wow women are awful

[outer wave]

Anyway sorry to the women in this chat

[queen laurel]

It's the whole bear argument again

[sly ivy]

Read about some of the people who worked w the dolphin language projects funded by… dod?

[crisp heath]

Yes and it's boring by now

[sly ivy]

I thought it was interesting!!

[vagrant fox]

That Dolphin got absolutely mind blasted

[sly ivy]

Not in a salacious way

In an interspecies psychology way but also tragic

Sorry I’ve now become serious again

[crisp heath]

? Werent we gonna talk about having sex with dolphins?

[sly ivy]

I should remain goofy

Ah no I meant the emotional connection

[vagrant fox]

I want to know why 40k memes suck such ass and have for 20 years

[outer wave]

Because unoriginal jokes

[crisp heath]

I didnt know there was more to the story than sex with dolphins and dolphins on acid

[sly ivy]

Oh god no I don’t think there was sex??!

But some of the dolphins basically fell in love with various people.

[vagrant fox]

It's like that sex raft experiment. Some dude pushing a weird agenda

[sly ivy]

In a rather complex way. Alien sentience.

[crisp heath]

Lol...maybe we're not thinking of the same thing.

[sly ivy]

Ok ima go back to humans good stinky elfs bad

[outer wave]

Now ogres!

Those are objectively good creatures

[sly ivy]

Ogryn good

Ogres sometimes eat elves so good

[queen laurel]

Yes and you smell like one too we get it

[vagrant fox]

zamn

Warhammer Fantasy high elves, now those are some lads

[outer wave]

😔 You didnt have to do me in like that.....

[crisp heath]

Ok i will leave then

[sly ivy]

A???

[queen laurel]

What can i say i'm an iron jaw fan i am very blunt

[sly ivy]

A was typo

[crisp heath]

I abuse the zealot chat when i wanna be low iq dumb

[sly ivy]

Noooo

Ok no monke then

Stay

[queen laurel]

Oh you're just like Laati

All right then i can deal with another one

[sly ivy]

I like this lore chat better than main 40K discord lore chat

[storm jungle]

There by now you'd have gotten someone going-

"Uehgm guys pls stay on topic or timeout 🤓 "

[outer wave]

Oh thats me

[sly ivy]

Light touch mods are god’s own chosen

[storm jungle]

I always found it dumb because like who gives a shit the topic is gonna move on back to the related stuff eventually anyway lol

[vagrant fox]

any touch?

[queen laurel]

Yeah people like that are incredibly not fun to talk to because they don't want to explore any other topic because if you explore any other topic they self combust into a frothing mad men

[sly ivy]

Show us where the mods touched u

[outer wave]

Erm, guys?

This isnt le epic lore....

Please get back on le topic.....

[sly ivy]

hahaha

[vagrant fox]

The only thing that really needs containing is memes on most servers from what I've seen

[queen laurel]

Your tyrant status is revoked

You will now be reduced to a gorger

[outer wave]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-boy-soy-redditor-soyjak-gif-11418100655612771226

Me now

[vagrant fox]

Don't like that

[queen laurel]

Truly a sad fate

[outer wave]

Beware the Tyrant to Redditor pipeline....

[vagrant fox]

Kind of unironically craving vanilla flavoured soy milk now

[outer wave]

Man its been 5 years since I played Omori

[sly ivy]

What that

[outer wave]

RPG Maker Game that the gif I put up is parodying

Came out around December 2020 and I bought it, hearing that it might be good and basically plunging into it blind

Pretty damn good overall

Does have a bit of that Undertale wacky random humor thats annoying but yeah

[vagrant fox]

I thought it was a distinctly fujoshi kind of a game for some reason

[outer wave]

Naaaaaah

[sly ivy]

Good lord I’m out of the jrpg loop what r these terms

I uh played final fantasy 7

Also 3

[outer wave]

RPG Maker games are basically the top down pixelated-styled games that you would see from old Pokemon games for example

Its a typical style that was used for alot of indie horror titles back in the mid-2010s though even earlier as well in 2003 with Yume Nikki

Its still a pretty popular style to use what with Undertale, DELTARUNE, Omori, among other games using that style

[sly ivy]

I like that there’s a level of abstraction

Forces you to use your imagination

I’m dating myself badly here but I remember how thrilling the manga-style Nintendo Power Zelda comics seemed b/c they depicted what I was imagining while playing this game

Where Link is like 7 pixels with 20 frames

[outer wave]

Yeah there's a bit of that, though many of these games typically use drawn sprites for characters and such, so there's not as much to the imagination in terms of what characters or monsters look like

[sly ivy]

Drawn sprites good too

There’s so much art in video games

Obvious statement

But still

[viral halo]

https://youtu.be/Ssj5ZBuhwIo?si=XRkzs7qBPbLjhYKt

@storm jungle

[storm jungle]

[rocky gale]

Huell's popping off

[queen laurel]

At this point this is one of the calmest things in this chat

[viral halo]

King shit

[vagrant fox]

Well it's not a 50 cent classic but it'll do

[rose thorn]

You know one good thing in the imperium is that con artists can’t con average citizens since they are too poor to have money

[sly ivy]

See utopia confirmed

[celest dome]

You can con them out of food, water and other stuff though

[rose thorn]

True

[green loom]

"Yes we should genocide natives"
"Why have normal people demanded I not associate with them?"

[sly ivy]

Most edgelordism is so tiresome but sometimes u hit the good stuff

The thing I find most funny about all this is that by and large people who would be considered natives in various ways and places are not easily offended and enjoy edgy humor. Source: am dark skinned nonwhite.

Like in the US roughly 65% of native Americans voted Republican in the last election.

[crystal forum]

i love when europeans who have never seen a "native" of any country other than their own says wild shit like this

i've seen some absolutely batshit opinions about the first nations from people who have never stepped foot in canada which is buckwild

[sly ivy]

Europe for Neanderthals

Eurasia for Homo erectus

[sly ivy]

That is a damn fine hominin

[crystal forum]

neandethals had to be taken out. they were literally too chad

[sly ivy]

Too true

[crystal forum]

we wouldn't have survived if those jocks lived

[sly ivy]

I mean they live in us

Just a lil touch

Except if you’re a subsaharan African hunter gatherer they managed to resist the neanderussy

(Actually I have some concerns about the introgression studies that conclude Neanderthal interbreeding but it probably did happen at some frequency)

[crystal forum]

you're reminding me already of the end of eternity which i just finished man

how tf can a book from 70 years ago tackle subjects like evolution so well

and it's not even a main part of the book it's just a tiny snippet

[sly ivy]

In the 1950s macroevolution as a field was prob healthier than it is today tbh

Macroevolution and paleontology.

[crystal forum]

science fiction being accurate to science is something i have rarely seen

asimov really cared about that i love it

[sly ivy]

The overall focus for biology has now split into biomedical on the one hand and ecology/environment/mesoevolution on the other.

So that book was written in the heyday.

[crystal forum]

the protagonists have access to 150 centuries of humanity and eventually somebody asks the question of why there's still men so far in the future

and the book does bring up the idea that with nothing in the environment that asks for adaptation, a species will just remain the same

like a horseshoe crab

[sly ivy]

Humans: the living fossils of the future. I like it.

[crystal forum]

then it makes you think it's going to pull a shitty evolution take by acting like man will evolve into a super intelligent being. then again the book whiplashes you by doing the correct take of saying that isn't what evolution is, it's not a straight progression of "better better better"

no man is still just man

i was surprised because like a lot of sci fi acts like evolution works like that

[sly ivy]

Yeah it’s like a stark difference when an author takes the time to be nuanced and accurate

Though tbh I’d rather have good writing and characters if I had to choose one or the other.

[crystal forum]

and a book from 1950 no less!

[crystal forum]

it does!

[sly ivy]

Evolution does of course work toward local optima so for some periods it did indeed do this

[crystal forum]

it has scientific accuracy and amazing character protrayal

seriously read this book it's amazing

[sly ivy]

Like human brain expansion from australopiths through us worked that way

Will do!

The great thing is that Darwin and Huxley already got this about evolution. They were incredibly sophisticated thinkers.

So there had already been 100 years of good evolutionary thought.

[crystal forum]

it does irk me how misinterpreted the mechanics of evolution are

even 200 years later

people want to interject their ideologies into it

[sly ivy]

I like that people are interested in it.

There’s still a lot of misconception, even in popular science.

Well. Yes the ideological contamination honestly comes from both political extremes.

But you know

Fortunately reality exists no matter what.

[crystal forum]

i think man after man is a funny example of weird interpretations of evolution

[sly ivy]

The scientific community is somewhat more self-correcting than the humanities and social science community.

Yeah tho like some of those illustrations are bangers.

Endless meme fodder.

[crystal forum]

it's written in the 90's so genetic engineering was sort of a fad in sci fi and people were starting to understand genetics more

[sly ivy]

Literally me

[crystal forum]

but somehow tacking on newer theories to the very well understood mechanics of evolution muddles everything and ends up having a straight up unscientific approach

the book does not hold up well which is weird

[sly ivy]

Yeah it’s kind of a dorky shuffle animal parts around on humans tale

Take

Still

The memes

[crystal forum]

yeah the memes

also it's mostly a book made to scare kids on purpose which i will never find cool

[crisp heath]

Haha 😄

[sly ivy]

Kid me liked the weird tho

[rocky gale]

😳

The fact you can just be browsing through Underworld models and finding the coolest thing GW has ever made and then learn "Yea they sold it for like 3 months then discontinued it"

[sly ivy]

😦

Also see all the original warcry warbands

Corvus cabal

[crystal forum]

the worse is when you learn the model didn't even sell well for no god damn reason

[rocky gale]

Because GW don't advertise them

Like I had no idea this model even existed until now

[sly ivy]

My understanding is that Underworlds is a way to release “experimental” and draft models and models from junior sculptors

So it’s kind of a good thing in that way

The sculpting team likes it a lot

But it’s frustrating when a banger is LE

[young pecan]

He looks like a tired middle-aged dad

[sly ivy]

I repeat

Literally me

[young pecan]

He's got a beer gut too LMAO

Too real

[rocky gale]

Being covered in hair and still having a moustache is so cursed

[sly ivy]

Literally. Me.

[crystal forum]

shave

[sly ivy]

It’s too late 4 me

[rose thorn]

Well it’s back now

!!!

[rose thorn]

Yup lol

Expect more tzeentch demons in the future

[rocky gale]

Yea but in a multipack that costs £60

[rocky gale]

Which is a bit much when I only want 1 model from the box

[arctic talon]

It’s this + they wanted a “living” game

Live service esque

Except that was imo a terrible idea

And this edition of underworlds it looks like GW agrees lol

[sly ivy]

I’m a little surprised Underworlds is still going

[arctic talon]

Same

But it’s not a bad game

[rose thorn]

I wanna play underworlds so bad I need to buy that box

[hallow saddle]

i bought the direchasm box off ebay just for that slaanesh warband

its really nice

if u camp ebay you will find it (probs not just the single model tho)

[rocky gale]

Don't worry, I managed to find the single model I was looking for on Ebay

[rose thorn]

Man I wanna like mantis but her movie appearances make her a literal animated character

And I have no clue what her character is supposed to be

[sly ivy]

Sir this is a Darktide lore chat we only discuss racist Asian grandpas and evolutionary dynamics.

Wait that’s the book club

Never mind.

[arctic talon]

Mantis in marvel comics?

Uhh

[rose thorn]

Yes

[arctic talon]

she's a martial artist

Vietnamese

and has like some psychic stuff

she's pretty normal aside from that

her movie depiction is very different

she's very much semi generic martial artist lady in the comics

[rose thorn]

Her movie version feels pretty aimless from what I’ve seen

[arctic talon]

I like her in the third movie in 2 its whatever

she is a character that exists

[rose thorn]

I haven’t seen the third yet so fair

[arctic talon]

Shes better in the third

my favorite iteration of Mantis is prolly the mantis from the GOTG video game lol

which is like a mix between the movie and the comic version

[rose thorn]

Ooo?

[arctic talon]

and she's lke

completely insane because she sees all timelines of all the other mantis's

at once

[rose thorn]

AH

That sounds pretty great

[arctic talon]

mild spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVGtxU-6XhQ

but

her intro cutscene is pretty much how she acts outside of fighting

[rose thorn]

THIS IS FIRE WTF

I was curious because her rivals depiction seems significantly more interesting then GoG2

[arctic talon]

Her rivals depiction is based on Mantis from GOTG3 and this game

[rose thorn]

And end game

[arctic talon]

Imo mantis is like

a whatever character in the comics + GOTG2

and infinity war

she exists, shes a supporting character lol

[rose thorn]

All 3 words and 2 scenes she existed in infinity war lmao

[arctic talon]

but yeah her design is great in this game imo

I like it more then the rivals game

she just fucking stabs people LOL

[rose thorn]

Tahts pretty fire lmao

I’m very very hesitant to ever even consider looking into a marvel game

[arctic talon]

I'm a big fan of most of the designs from the game

imo its genuinely good

regarding the GOTG game

I like it more then the movie depiction of characters

[rose thorn]

I expected it to be like that avengers game they released 3 times that no one cared about

[arctic talon]

nah

its like actually good lol

[rose thorn]

I don’t think my laptop will run it and probably can’t get a computer till after my masters

So I’ll just watch a playthrough lmao

[arctic talon]

fair enough lmao

I do also like that the guardians are like

way more of a bunch of assholes/criminals in this game

because I just prefer that vibe from them

[rose thorn]

Yee, I felt like it flip flop in 2

And the Christmas thing

[arctic talon]

also the final set of outfits they get are really cool imo

it also does show that yeah half of them really really really like money

because its real gold

[rose thorn]

Also I genuine despise the new groot design in 3 and the Christmas thing

[arctic talon]

Groots new design is

fine

I get why they did it

[rose thorn]

they made groot into a funko pop

[arctic talon]

its because its a different groot

but like

mehhhhh

[rose thorn]

Yeha but it’s a bobble head

[queen laurel]

I like what they did with wolverine

Different but it's still him

[rose thorn]

I forgot x men were marvel

[queen laurel]

And hey they brought back his superheated claws

That was a blast from the past

[crystal forum]

most people do

xmen is like its own thing

[arctic talon]

mmmm gold

X-men movies weren't made by Marvel iirc

[rose thorn]

It’s like the top 10 accidental queer coded franchises ever

[rose thorn]

GROOTS FACE AHAHISVJSD

[arctic talon]

He always has that face lol

its so good

[crystal forum]

the wood chin

[rose thorn]

HE LOOKS SO SAD ITS SO GOOD

a retired 80 year old electrician

Who didn’t want to retire

[arctic talon]

He is sad

[crystal forum]

i am old

[arctic talon]

his planet got fucking genocided by Thanos

[queen laurel]

I almost always forget this game exists

[arctic talon]

at the start of the war

[crystal forum]

i cant think of a good groot pun

[arctic talon]

so he's always depressed about that lol

[queen laurel]

He's literally the last of his kind right

[arctic talon]

yes

[crystal forum]

sci fi cliche number 5

[arctic talon]

assuming its like the comics he's going to commit murder suicide to revive his entire race

[rose thorn]

Also i like that star lord looks like crisp rat’s European clone

[arctic talon]

oh yeah Groot killed all the Guardians

in the comics lol

[crystal forum]

is he dead or not in the movies

[rose thorn]

Not surprised

[arctic talon]

Groot is dead in the movies

Groot 2 is alive

[crystal forum]

i dont get if the baby yoda ass groot is him or not

[arctic talon]

Groot in the Comics revived and became tree jesus/satan

and the rest of the guardians are like alive

since he revived them because he felt bad about the whole murder suicide thing

and its comics and they revive everyone

[crystal forum]

this doesnt sound like the plot to a marvel book

[arctic talon]

Wdym lol

[crystal forum]

idk sounds so brutal

[rose thorn]

Every once in a while a comic writer just has a mental break down and make the most insane shit ever tbh

For Marvel

[arctic talon]

not really lol

he just impales them all lol

and immolates himself

[queen laurel]

Average comic mitigation of consequences

[crystal forum]

he just kills all the main characters

[arctic talon]

well yeah?

that happens a lot in marvel comics

[rose thorn]

Pretty sure Spider-Man went on several murder sprees

[arctic talon]

also nova corp in the game look great imo

[rose thorn]

OOOO

[crystal forum]

energy tits

[arctic talon]

there's a joke abou tthis

in the game

with starlord

one moment

[queen laurel]

Of course it's star lord

[arctic talon]

We bought this gold dome outfit dirt cheap for a protection gig, but it didn't pan out. I kept mine because the ladies are always asking me to dig it out of the closet so I can show off my Nova Force. I am always ready to protect and serve.
[Gamora Addendum]
Ew! Just... ew!

[crystal forum]

this guy does not get poonani

[rose thorn]

When marvel make something good it’s usually really really good from what I’ve seen

Not counting Spider-Man which is continually

Above average

[queen laurel]

The worst spider-man thing is definitely the suffering builds character

Going on and on

[arctic talon]

he does in game

star lord in the comics almost dies of an STD at one point lol

[rose thorn]

Gonna be real I didn’t like no way home

Like there was nothing enjoyable besides nostalgia

[queen laurel]

How much alien girls does this guy bang

On the regular

[arctic talon]

idk

in game like two ||and he gets robbed by them||

[rose thorn]

Alien STDs would probably kill any other species instantly

[queen laurel]

Yeah but this guy is starlord

[rose thorn]

Since STD are specifically built to take advantage of your body

Imagine dying because the virus got your heart mixed up with a sex organ

Oh wait that was a Rick and Morty joke

[arctic talon]

he's a normal ass human

[rose thorn]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel-rivals/images/b/bf/Mantis_Hero_Portrait.png/revision/latest?cb=20240819163247

I’ll say the GOTG games like, armor and weapons are better

But the physical mantis parts are better in rivals

No clue why they made her a dnd Druid

[arctic talon]

in Rivals? because she's like tangentally related to plants lol

[rose thorn]

That’s, kinda weird

[arctic talon]

Mantis is weird in the comics lol, she is like literally just a Vietnamese woman

with super powers

She was an Avenger at one point

and then Idk how she got related to the guardians of the galaxy

but it was before like the movies

[queen laurel]

Yeah but this is a normal human by comic standards

There is nothing human about that guy

[rose thorn]

That wasn’t a joke?

[arctic talon]

no

mantis is on the left

she became green at some point

[rose thorn]

HAAHHAHAHA

[arctic talon]

and then normal colored

and then she gets the antena thing

at some point

[rose thorn]

SHE WAS MADE 2 YEARS BEFORE THE VIETNAM WAR?!

[crystal forum]

that's assuming it can be given cross species

viruses are highly specialized organisms

rick and morty can suck my balls

[rose thorn]

True, I probably shouldn’t have assumed it was aids and already a cross species virus

Unprotected alien sex is probably not a good idea through

[crystal forum]

what type of alien

[rose thorn]

Any?

[crystal forum]

if the alien is a living sex object

like i cant just not try

[rose thorn]

Hey wouldn’t like, Thor and all the other Asgardians be aliens?

Technically?

[crystal forum]

they're not human

so by all definitions they're alien

[rose thorn]

Yeah but they are Greek gods

[crystal forum]

alien just means foreign

unhuman

[rose thorn]

Wait asgardians can reproduce with humans

I think

[crystal forum]

they can reproduce with ice giants so prob

i think

[rose thorn]

I was gonna say damn they really are racist, but I forgot they were just racist against giants

[queen laurel]

Sorry

What's doing something

[crystal forum]

i would bang thor

if he asks politely

[queen laurel]

As i was saying i do like the way they modernize her

In the movies and now it's basically her main look

[rose thorn]

I hate beards, but Thor with a beard is much better than smooth face

Would w/ a silky beard

[crystal forum]

i bet he's smooth everywhere else

where it matters

[rose thorn]

His gender fluid brother tho is peak

Loki

[crystal forum]

loki is literally fluid

like he can just change appearance

[rose thorn]

Loki is canonically gender fluid in every format except the live action

[arctic talon]

they are called Aliens

[rose thorn]

And it’s a CRIME

[arctic talon]

oh also the GOTG game made Nova hot

and also not Nova

lol

[rose thorn]

Blu e

[queen laurel]

Marvel rivals Thor is great

[arctic talon]

yeah shes blue in the comics as well

also was peters girlfriend

[rose thorn]

He shampoos his beard it’s peek

[arctic talon]

his rivals design is so good lol

[queen laurel]

Yeah he's also very fun to play

Genuinely one of the most peak thor

[arctic talon]

I like all the rivals designs except for like

spiderman

who is literally just spiderman

[rose thorn]

Apparently my laptop can run cyberpunk at min settings at 30 fps but I don’t trust it

[arctic talon]

I would not trust it

lol

[rose thorn]

Yeah but what else could you do

[arctic talon]

Idfk

[queen laurel]

Well the thing is how do you tackle the question

[arctic talon]

iron spider?

give him more tech bits?

[queen laurel]

Can you improve spider-man?

[rose thorn]

I was gonna say iron spider

[arctic talon]

giving him more tech bits

prolly is my choice

but not iron spider

[queen laurel]

Yeah but that is already an mcu skin

[arctic talon]

who cares

[queen laurel]

Unfortunately

[arctic talon]

make it a dif version of iron spider

lol

[rose thorn]

Having iron spider and anime Spider-Man is weird to me but shrug

I just need spider noir…

[arctic talon]

this design

is way fucking better

then the movie one imo

[rose thorn]

SO GOOD

My favorite Spider-Man was from some animated tv show that scared me as I kid and I can’t fucking find it

[arctic talon]

Iron spider in the movies doesn't look good imo

the suit itself is cool

but it doesn't look like armor

it looks like a skintight suit made of metal

[rose thorn]

Spider-Man got teleported into the dystopia future where there’s furries. He has to stop a venom and carnage zombie cult thing and it was insane

And they turned Spider-Man into a spider

And it fucked me forever

[arctic talon]

the same applies to iron mans armor with the nanotech lol

[queen laurel]

I do find it funny that they made wolverine kyoken and gave him superheated claws

That ability of his that was rerconned

[arctic talon]

meh

[rose thorn]

Also crazy they are adding the fantastic 4

[arctic talon]

its another wolverine where it didn't get retcon'd lol

[rose thorn]

That feels crazy to me

[arctic talon]

The game was intended for 2025 launch

imo they prolly have a much more

the game was def rushed out

[queen laurel]

I do find it hilarious since this game is basically its own hilarious

multiverse

Thanks to that

They can just basically bring in any one no problem

[arctic talon]

Its in the Marvel comics multiverse

its just not using anyone from the actual movie or like

comic timelines lol

actually I'm wrong

psylocke is from that one version

[queen laurel]

Yeah from demon days

[rose thorn]

Isn’t the thing based off his movie design?

[arctic talon]

Wolverine?

nah

[rose thorn]

Nah The thing The Thjng

[arctic talon]

ih

LOL

I got no clue I'm ngl

I'm not a fantastic four fan

[rose thorn]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marvelmovies/images/7/78/The_Thing.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150409134402

Honestly it’s also

The thing

You can’t really change his design

[arctic talon]

Its kind of hard to do him wrong

lol

dude with rock + pants

[rose thorn]

Oh this one is wearing fucking jeans

[rose thorn]

He looks like a rock elemental

I like it a lot

[arctic talon]

I want dr doom

but like not one of the dooms trying to blow up the universe

third doom

[rose thorn]

I LOVE DR DOOM AAAAA

[arctic talon]

Ultron being a support

is also cool lol

[queen laurel]

Who thinks he's better than everyone and the only reason he's in the game is because he wants to stop the other two

[winter vessel]

wonder what Ultron's "ult" would be

[arctic talon]

he summons a fuck ton of drones

[rose thorn]

Everyone I met who loves Ultron is inexcusably sexually attracted to Ultron

Which like, valid

[arctic talon]

I like him

I am not attracted to him

he's too smooth

lol

[queen laurel]

Nowadays just saying that i'm a fan of venom gets people to stare at me

[arctic talon]

just a silver dude with a weird head

[rose thorn]

Also crazy they are using the Sociopath Dr Reeds for rivals Reed

[winter vessel]

truth be told i never did like MCU's appearance of him, I kinda liked the scarecrow look and no moving mouth

[rose thorn]

He looks significantly better in gold damn

[arctic talon]

is it?

[rose thorn]

The bearded one

[winter vessel]

his brother, Goldtron

[rose thorn]

Yeha he started like, the Rick citadel for Dr Reeds who discovers the multiverse

The one with the beard

[arctic talon]

Oh

maybe he is only design wise based on the sociopathic one LOL

[rose thorn]

Yee that’s what I meant

Which I mean, it would work in context for the game I guess

‘Oh it’s sociopath genocide reed’

[winter vessel]

Weed

[rose thorn]

Dr Weed….

[winter vessel]

Its Weed Wichawds

[queen laurel]

Now that i see it so his marvel rivals version is just a mixture of the movie design the smooth design

[rose thorn]

The fantastic 420….

[winter vessel]

i like it

[rose thorn]

Ooo ice

When I first heard of rivals I was expecting DC to do that style of game first

[arctic talon]

DC doing literally anything

💀

[rose thorn]

They made that one really good fps game

That they killed

Gotham city imposters

[arctic talon]

Yeah

but they seem to not like

do game stuff weirdly

[winter vessel]

I want Wilson Fisk to be added to Marvels, under the condition they go with the billboard version of him in the Spider-Verse series

[arctic talon]

like they're much more selfish with the license

[arctic talon]

god this is such a good image

[rose thorn]

After making 3 Batman flops in a row they kinda stopped I guess

[arctic talon]

ig suicide squad

[queen laurel]

This is so f****** funny

[winter vessel]

my cousin had this as his desktop wallpaper, I couldn't breath for a minute when he started his PC up and i just see this guy grinning at me

[rose thorn]

I really hope they drop Dr doom, he’s my favorite correct villian

For rivals

Uhg my heart

[queen laurel]

Man is swimmin

[rose thorn]

[rose thorn]

THE DICTATORSHIP DRIP?!

[queen laurel]

He is fresh

[winter vessel]

Got that Latverian swag on him

[queen laurel]

Yes sir

[rose thorn]

*note to self, IG first born painted painted in rivals Dr Doom style

[rose thorn]

Not only the cloak, not only the vest, not only the neck cover, not only the hood, BUT ALSO THE FULL ARMOR SUIT UNDERNEATH

[queen laurel]

Yes that's right there is dr doom

[rose thorn]

I can’t even play the new zomboid update in cooked to even try to run rivals

8 gb ram hell

[queen laurel]

Yeah the game is

Not the best at optimization

[rose thorn]

Dr strange portal moments

[celest dome]

Dr Doom as a Strategist to mindf the people
||Doom as a Summon Vanguard with Doombots though||

[queen laurel]

Ultron is already making that mind fuck with the strategist tole

[celest dome]

I mean, Ultron is weird as a Strategist, but it also doesn't match well with it.
Doom would match very well with a Strategist.
And I'd love to see a voice line where when you help Reed Doom just gloat that without him Reed is unable to do anything

[queen laurel]

But the way the man is built he's going to definitely be a tank

Bro is built like a brick shit house

[celest dome]

That doesn't matter to me

Like from Spider People I want a 2nd Vanguard and for it to be Peter Porker, Spider Ham

Which isn't really a big character

[queen laurel]

Well to be fair to this game they have find unique ways to make tanks very fun

So i wouldn't mind him becoming a vanguard

[rocky gale]

Rivals is fun, only problem is I just wanna girlboss as Magik, but I always end up having to mother as Mantis.

[queen laurel]

That is the feeling i can't even play dps most of the time because there are so many instalockers

[rocky gale]

Yea, 9/10 you have to end up picking support or tank because everyone else instalocks DPS

[queen laurel]

Yeah thank goodness most of the characters i like are on the tank category

[rocky gale]

Penni is the only Tank I don't hate playing, but she has so many maps and modes where she's not great

[queen laurel]

Your entire play style is literally just locking down an entire area and turning it into a minefield yeah

She's great for capture the point and in stopping the cart missions

But if someone wants to go offensive with her she need another tank to take the beating for her

[rocky gale]

Yea on attack she basically becomes an Offtank

You need a beefy tank like Venom or Groot to compensate

[queen laurel]

I will say on defense though she is one of the most horrifying characters to fight, why yes she has 3 second cooldown right click cc

[rocky gale]

and it completely negates Scarlet's Ult

[queen laurel]

Everytime i hear her say pure chaos i just say shut up

And right click

[tough haven]

Lucius be like:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452219191580295168/1325320826232508436/Balaclavants.webp?ex=677b5cb4&is=677a0b34&hm=a79c87b9a9f821e29cd88bc17adb5f9005ea061b8c4d8610ed78e8f016c0e918&

[barren prawn]

is assail mentioned anywhere as an imperial psyker ability or anything close to it?

[queen laurel]

in the Telekinesis discipline

Assail: The Psyker lifts a boulder or heavy object from the ground and hurls it towards his enemies

[barren prawn]

yes

throw existing objects thats well established

but theres nothing about manifesting blades

at least no imperial psyker ability that i can find

maybe some sort of warp frost?

[celest dome]

Telekine Knife or one of the heretic ability match better with game Assail

[barren prawn]

i feel like doombolt is close

[queen laurel]

that's more like a basic energy blast

[celest dome]

No Doom Bolt is more about sending warp/electrical bolts than crystaled warp

[barren prawn]

🤔

[queen laurel]

Doombolt Bolts made of raw chaos energy are launched by the sorcerer against his enemies. Made from dark energy of the coalesced spite and loathing of the sorceror

[barren prawn]

is there anything about summoning ice shards?

[queen laurel]

the thing is lore wise psychic powers can basically take every fictional power you can think of

[barren prawn]

yeah ive noticed listening to the crimson king

its all gogo random bullshit

[celest dome]

Can someone do a image search on this ?

Not on a PC rn

[barren prawn]

i found something similar

https://extraheresy.fandom.com/wiki/Psychic_Blade

but this says range: you so im assuming its melee

[celest dome]

Dark Heresy p. 177

For Psychic blade

[celest dome]

Void Frost from Astropath

[barren prawn]

perfect thank you

[dapper gyro]

Are you satisfied yet, @barren prawn ?

This place is a place of book worms.

[barren prawn]

yes

i was right

[dapper gyro]

I pass here to poke fun of things.

[celest dome]

Assail isn't Void Frost though

[barren prawn]

yeah

but thats closer than psy knives no?

in the codex you mentioned theyre a melee weapon

[harsh bane]

...You know that Assail is a Ravenor reference

right?

its not taken from any rpg system powers, its a direct reference to Patience from the Ravenor novels

the power is one throwing slivers of metal with telekine powers, thats it

[celest dome]

Telekine Knife is different (and could still appear tbh

[dusk patrol]

Warp abilities often cause thing they’re affecting to frost over, which may be what is being combined here with assail or something like that

Hoarfrost it’s called.

in honor of your mom

[plush mason]

so 40k has hoarfrost and Hel

[barren prawn]

no i do not

[barren prawn]

my issue wasnt the telekine powers but where the knives come from

[barren prawn]

i think that is the most logical way assail could exist in warhammer univ

but the shards in game dont appear very frosty

[dusk patrol]

I mean it’s not really any different from generating lightning or fire or ice storms, than it is just generating some solid bit of warp energy

[queen laurel]

yeah if anything it's just basic conjuration

using psychic energy to manifest things

[harsh bane]

you are in a hive, a random sharp piece of metal is not hard to come by, it doesn't need to be conjured by warp force

[barren prawn]

yeah sure but still couldnt find a direct refrence to anyone doing it even if its entire reasonable

[barren prawn]

🚬

thats what i said

[harsh bane]

"where do the knives come from" is what you asked

[dusk patrol]

They got them in their pockets

[barren prawn]

this is part of like two different arguments

[harsh bane]

the psyker is either carrying a handful, or is literally just using their telekine powers to pick up a literal random piece of metal

[barren prawn]

on two channels

[harsh bane]

and hurl it at people

[summer mural]

the knives come from psykers sun dont shine place

[barren prawn]

yeah

throwing objects perfectly fine

[harsh bane]

okay so whats the problem

[summer mural]

the problem is the dark angels are too autistic for my taste

[dusk patrol]

They come from your mom, plenty of space to store and very communal.

[barren prawn]

someone screamed at me in a different channel for saying theres no direct mention of assail in the lore just telekinetic powers then cited psychic blades which were a melee ability not a ranged one

[summer mural]

assail? more like asspull

[dusk patrol]

There is direct mentions of assail but it’s a telekine power

[harsh bane]

yeah because its a complaint which makes no sense, its literally just throwing shit with telekine powers. stating "there's no direct mention of this in lore" is a weird, untrue comment

[barren prawn]

🙄

[dusk patrol]

So we’d assume in keeping with other depictions the psyker is controlling knives they have on their person or are finding

Same place the ogryn finds all those rocks I guess

[harsh bane]

never mind the fact its literally just a reference to Ravenor, so we do have a lore reference for it regardless

[barren prawn]

im more with the ice theory

[queen laurel]

yeah i alread showed him that he's asking where does the dark tide interpretaion of the ability

[barren prawn]

show it to me

[queen laurel]

In lore shown

[harsh bane]

...psychic powers have been noted, throughout 40k media, to cause temperatures to drop

[dusk patrol]

People have posted it haven’t they?

[queen laurel]

where it's manifestation of crystals

[celest dome]

I don't think it's frost, it's really is just Warp Crystals
Like the thing that is often drawn in art about Tzeentch and the Warpnin general

[barren prawn]

bruh thats what i said

[harsh bane]

then what are you complaining about??

[barren prawn]

im not????

the matter is resolved the ticket is closed stop

[summer mural]

memory worm

[dusk patrol]

Also it can be both or neither, warp stuff also heats things up sometimes

The point is it causes unnatural effects

[summer mural]

what if you hit a 5 second year old baby with memory worm

[barren prawn]

it looks like cystals in game but having it be frost makes more sense

[celest dome]

I'm not saying that Frost isn't a byproduct of using the Warp, and I even said that there are frost power in the lore.
I'm just saying that Assail in game doesn't seem to be ice or frost to me

[queen laurel]

I mean like I said it can also just be basic warp conjuration

materialize the energy into a shape and boom you got a psychic energy shard

[summer mural]

so...
ass-hail?

[barren prawn]

really smol kine shield

[dusk patrol]

Oh yeah idk with assail, imo it’s either generating the blades with energy or telekinetically controlling them

[barren prawn]

its both

both of those exist separately i was just looking for sources of them both being used at once

[dusk patrol]

Telekinetics is when you control a non warp thing with the warp

If they’re generating them with the warp it’s not quite the same thing

[queen laurel]

random Image in the Internet but by the way they look they are definitely randomly made with psychic energy

[barren prawn]

pretty sure its when you control anything using kinetic forces

[queen laurel]

it's definitely conjuring or manipulating warp energy into forming crystals

and using telekinesis to you know move said crystals

[dusk patrol]

No because there’s lots of ranged warp powers outside of the telekinetic schools which aren’t controlled using it

But either way, it looks more like warp energy to me but it doesn’t really matter

[queen laurel]

i'm just gonna say it's basically basic warp conjuration

[dusk patrol]

Telekinetic stuff is basically always controlling non warp things using the warp though in practice

[queen laurel]

And you use telekinesis to move the shards around

[dusk patrol]

Whether in defense or offensively

[vagrant fox]

Aren't they just a variation of kine blades like what Patience Kys uses

[dusk patrol]

Patience uses actual knives I believe

[celest dome]

Not really

[dusk patrol]

Special ones she keeps on her person

And much more dexterously

Assail in the game is a lot cruder.

[queen laurel]

yeah Darktide Assail is just some formed crystals

using warp energy

[celest dome]

Formed or just summoned from the warp

[queen laurel]

yes

[dusk patrol]

Patience controls them a lot more independently and artfully

[queen laurel]

are they force knives that absorbs psychic energy to allow them to cut through anything

[vagrant fox]

Or maybe I'm thinking about aether weapons being described being made of a similar looking material

[dusk patrol]

Seems they’re just blades designed for her to control well, they don’t seem to have any special properties besides

Theyre well made I guess and probably mono blades but I can’t recall their descriptions beyond that.

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/castlevania-alucard-sword-horse-ride-fight-gif-15140137020169427084

Telekine Knives as a melee weapon

[queen laurel]

shame i thought she was like yondu from guardians of the galaxy that controls one special force knife that can be imbued with psychic energy

and she just moves it around to slice stuff

[dusk patrol]

I can’t recall many times she actually has issues with anyone with them, she seems to go for weak points just fine

[queen laurel]

yeah but has she fought anything that are like Mega-nobz or terminator tier armored bastards?

[dusk patrol]

I can’t recall what the biggest bad she’s properly fought, they don’t get in a ton of big boy fights frankly

[hallow saddle]

seeing ppl discuss lore references for the in game abilities

u guys realise its all made the fuck up right

[celest dome]

And ?
FS love to have things reference older lore

[hallow saddle]

how can it be that i dont see reference to this ability in the lore???

[storm jungle]

to be fair

literally every single magic trick in 40k is made up for a specific book/story

so

[hallow saddle]

yeah thats what im saying

its all made the fuck up lol

its made up for a datasheet or a codex or a story

[storm jungle]

Yeah like its why the characters like Emperor literally can do whatever the fuck they want.

[hallow saddle]

warp does X

[storm jungle]

its all just madeup nonsense

[celest dome]

Spiteshards from Rogue Trader

[queen laurel]

people get tied down by the psychic disciplines too much

[hallow saddle]

and the sorceror does this insane thing and it was crazy and mental!!!!

[queen laurel]

if you have enough power you can literally do anything with psychic magic

[celest dome]

Dilara you see the blocked text ? Could you tell me what was blocked ?

[storm jungle]

Just the bot being stupid saying its spam

[celest dome]

With practice, a psyker may learn to coalesce his spite into something physical by translating it through the Warp, manifesting this power as a volley of razor-edged crystals of pulsating darkness that pierce through armour, corrupting anything they touch. As the psyker becomes more and more attuned to his malice, however, the Warp gains an ever more potent hold over his soul. The psyker focuses his will, pulling forth his hatred into the physical realm as jagged stakes of shadowy crystal from the Immaterium. These shards appear near the psyker, then must physically travel the distance to his target. If the Focus Power Test succeeds, the psyker produces one shard, plus one additional shard for every two Degrees of Success on the Test. The number of hits scored in this manner may not exceed the psyker’s effective Psy Rating when using this power. Spiteshards hit automatically, but may be Dodged as if they were any other kind of Ranged Attack. The psyker gains 1d5–2 Corruption Points (to a minimum of 0) each time he successfully manifests this power. Each Spiteshard deals 1d5 Damage with a Penetration of 5, and with a bonus to Damage and Penetration equal to the psyker’s Psy Rating. Any creature that suffers Damage (after reductions for Armour and Toughness Bonus) from a Spiteshard must make a Challenging (+0) Willpower Test or gain 1d5 Corruption points.

[celest dome]

I think it was the spaces

[storm jungle]

Yeah that checks out

Loner LITERALLY says:

"shards of HATE do your thing"

[hallow saddle]

rogue trader references are always kool

[celest dome]

I just had to find back the name

[queen laurel]

why the hell did they call it Assail if it already has a name which sounds cooler

[celest dome]

GW 🤷

[storm jungle]

to be fair

[queen laurel]

sometimes i am way too ******* confused