40k-lore-chat

[spring cairn]

the average kislevite farm hand is built like a chaos marauder

[arctic talon]

Okay but his name is still golgfag

That’s a syllables

[queen laurel]

So i can Say GOlGFAG but not Gorf

[plush mason]

i know lol

[arctic talon]

The wonders of a filter

[queen laurel]

It truly is

[plush mason]

some days i wonder just how high the coders where when they made these bots

[gray umbra]

Its ok i encountered a npc stalker named vadim quack

Name generation is 👍

[crystal forum]

not high enough

[crystal forum]

this is oppression against british smokers

[dusk patrol]

Me, trying to find how the fuck the Northern tribes get enough protein in a “desolate wasteland” to be this fucking yoked

Is chaos just infinite whey?

[queen laurel]

Chaos roids are the greatest protein

And to be honest

Mammoth meat probably has crazy protein

[crystal forum]

what if they're super skinny under the armour

[plush mason]

thats from chaos mark isnt it?

[dusk patrol]

I think so

[tough haven]

Eat the poor

[queen laurel]

Yes it's from mark of chaos

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/jpeg-jpg-what-a-do-i-know-gif-27371589

[queen laurel]

Oi i'm on my phone deal with it

[plush mason]

yeah that warrior is iconic

shame we basically never see that style of chaos warrior again

[rose thorn]

Thought that said jrpg

[rose thorn]

Praying that AOS gets a good video game soon

[queen laurel]

Same here

[rose thorn]

Realms of ruin is fine

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/metaphor-metaphor-refantazio-will-protagonist-cooking-gif-12464241572225654320

Realms of Ruin suffers from them randomly making units unmicroable tbh

[young pecan]

Idk much about Norsca but judging from the gameplay in TWH3 it seems like they're big on community hunts

Maybe big, dangerous, but greatly filling game

[arctic talon]

tbh what does the game eat

is the biggest question

[young pecan]

TRUE

[vagrant fox]

Other game

[arctic talon]

meat all the way down

lol

[vagrant fox]

A very inefficient ecosystem

[young pecan]

Aren't there still trees around?

Mammoths and such probably ate those

[arctic talon]

some yeah

ngl the more southern norscans I totally get being that fuckin buff

but the more northern ones yeah idfk

[vagrant fox]

Gains from rule of cool, it's fine

[dusk patrol]

The point is it doesn’t make a ton of sense but it’s also like

[sly ivy]

Morktide

[dusk patrol]

Literally just “chaos”

I think it’s outright said a lot wouldn’t survive without it

[arctic talon]

da juice

[rose thorn]

Lmao true, also they need more factions

[rose thorn]

I’d die for that

What would the classes be

Stormcast

Sylvaneth?

[celest dome]

Alliance from Order factions probably

[rose thorn]

Yee

And maybe a single death guy

[arctic talon]

Cities of Sugmar

[rose thorn]

I’d like a class for each faction tbh

I’d love to play an idoneth deepkin

[celest dome]

City
Kharadron
Stormcast

[rose thorn]

And then what will be the elf rep

[celest dome]

What elf rep

[rose thorn]

Maybe lumineth?

[rose thorn]

Aelf

[queen laurel]

Soulound pantheon of order

So pick from fire slayers

Aelfs

Daughters of cain

[rose thorn]

WAIT IS KHAINE A RIFF ON CAIN

[queen laurel]

Khaine

[rose thorn]

FROM THE BIBBLE

[celest dome]

If they want to have it be 'linked' to VT2/U5 (then making it Vt3)
Sylvaneth
Kharadron
Stormcast
Unknown Bretonnian faction
Night haunt ?

[queen laurel]

I'm just not going to correct myself because i'm lazy

[tough haven]

ne because cain has a C and Khain has a KH

[celest dome]

Tbh I want some tide game, but in BF still

Or not set in warhammer at all

[rose thorn]

Soulblight would be fun

[rose thorn]

BF?

[celest dome]

Battle fantasy

[rose thorn]

Ah

A tide game in like

Starwars or something would be cool

[celest dome]

ye, Starwars could work

[rose thorn]

Like that one arena battle app game

The robot Jedi, the fallen storm troopers, something else

[celest dome]

Otherwise, Castlevania could be cool

[rose thorn]

Oh hell yeah

[celest dome]

I think it would work better if it's set in older times.
Grey Jedi
Mandolorian
Night Witch and such thing

[rose thorn]

Idk much about starwars imma be real so I’ll take your word

[celest dome]

Haven't followed in ages, but having it in the past let you have Jedi with guns

But ye
Castlevania
Dresden Files
Or some setting that FS would create

[queen laurel]

We have like three elves

The ones in the ocean

[celest dome]

FS either making a Weird War setting (Each player character being a member of the allies);
Or being on a setting with multiple Avatars from different Mythological Pantheon vs an army from some Old One

[queen laurel]

The ones that like blood and stabbing

And highelfs that are even higher

[celest dome]

||I meant that why have elf rep||

[queen laurel]

Also the wood elves

[arctic talon]

Wood elves(literal)

somehow even more xenophobic

[queen laurel]

I mean alariel brought back

Drycha

[arctic talon]

that was as a distraction

it got out of hand

[queen laurel]

Ah yes the perfect distraction

Bring back one of the most dangerous members of the faction in the world that was

[arctic talon]

Hey it worked great

aside from the part

[sly ivy]

Def lumineth. Loreseeker?

[arctic talon]

where she started commiting mass murder

towards literally everyone else once she ran out of Death and Skaven to kill

[rose thorn]

I imagine each faction class has like 3 mini classes like vermintide 2

You got a warrior chamber stormcast, vanguard chamber, and ruination chamber?

Then for kharadron uh

Codewrite, engineer, and something else

[queen laurel]

With soul bound they can have a lot of options

[rose thorn]

True

[queen laurel]

They can get characters from three pantheons

Death order and destruction

[rose thorn]

An ogor would be fun

For morktide

Or they could so soultide

And do death

[arctic talon]

During the necroquake

Lol

[queen laurel]

Yeah that can work

Yeah soulbound opens up a lot of tide possibilities

[celest dome]

Lizardtide or Dreadtide in BF
AoS getting some real Gold age RTS is what I'd like to see.
And maybe some Rpg game

[arctic talon]

God

[rose thorn]

I’d kill for a AOS rpg

[arctic talon]

I’d kill for a good AoS RTS

[queen laurel]

I would genocide an entire world for a good AOS rts

Or rpg

[rose thorn]

Soul bound is a really good ttrpg tho

[celest dome]

A Divinity OS 2 like Rpg

[rose thorn]

Oooo yee

[sly ivy]

Omg skinktide

[rose thorn]

What would the player classes be

[sly ivy]

I would feel bad killing the little guys

[crisp heath]

i NEED sororitastide

[rose thorn]

Skinktide, idonethtide

[celest dome]

I wouldn't
Let me play as Chaos Warrior of each god

[arctic talon]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[rose thorn]

Uh

[queen laurel]

Mandatory it needs at least one from the three pantheons besides chaos

[sly ivy]

Btw weekly reminder Darktide is really good now everyone go play it.

Wait

[rose thorn]

Yee

[sly ivy]

This is the Darktide discord not the 40K one

[arctic talon]

All of Warhammer’s ttrpg’s are good tbh

[sly ivy]

Lmao

[queen laurel]

I just wish everyone felt the pain i felt when i played day one

[sly ivy]

Never mind

[arctic talon]

As long as you’re fine with a little jank

[rose thorn]

I heard the old world one is pretty jank

[queen laurel]

I think the only warhammer ttrpg people don't really like much is old world

[arctic talon]

2e and 4e are fineish

[celest dome]

2 and 4th aren't bad

[arctic talon]

3e is Uber jank

[sly ivy]

Yeah I was day one too it was rough

[celest dome]

Was surprised by you saying 3

[queen laurel]

What's the latest edition

[rose thorn]

“500 classes” oh cool how many of them are good/usable

[arctic talon]

4e

[queen laurel]

Hmm

[arctic talon]

Pathfinder 2e reference

[queen laurel]

Ok

[celest dome]

I played VT2 on launch

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

How many feats are there in pf2e

How many are viable combos per class

[rose thorn]

Archetypes?

[arctic talon]

[arctic talon]

Yeah same difference

[queen laurel]

That explains why you are very tolerant

[arctic talon]

They’re classes to me

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

And they can take it from my cold dead hands

[rose thorn]

They are like universal subclasses which is good for flavors or uber min maxing

[arctic talon]

I am a firm believer of pathfinder 1e being the better system mostly

Though I do like some stuff in 2e

[rose thorn]

I like the juggler archetype :3

[arctic talon]

In any case at the end of the day it’s personal taste lol

I bet you there’s a group of people out there who really like dnd 4e

[queen laurel]

This is apparently every order aligned soulbound archetypeOrder Aligned Archetypes:
Free People:

Battlemage CB

Black Ark Corsair CB

Darkling Sorceress CB

Excelsior Warpriest CB

Trade Pioneer CB

Witch Hunter EotB

Daughters of Khaine

Hag Priestess CB

Witch Aelf CB

Khainite Shadowstalker CoO

Khinerai EotB

Medusai EotB

Fyreslayers

Auric Runesmiter CB

Battlesmith CB

Doomseeker CB

Grimwrath Berzerker CoO

Idoneth Deepkin

Akhelian Emissary CB

Isharann Soulscryer CB

Isharann Tidecaster CB

Isharann Soulreaper CoO

Kharadron Overlords

Aether-Khemist CB

Edrinmaster CB

Skyrigger CB

Aetheric Navigator CoO

Stormcast Eternals

Knight-Azyros CB

Knight-Incantor CB

Knight-Questor CB

Knight-Venator CB

Knight-Zephyros CoO

Knigth-Judicator EotB

Knight-Relictor EotB

Knight-Vexillor EotB

Errant Draconith EotB - Yes this is an actual dragon

Sylvaneth

Branchwych CB

Kurnoth Hunter CB

Tree-Revenant Waypiper CB

Spite Revenant CoO

Warsong Revenant EotB

Lumineth Realm-Lords

Alarith Stoneguard CoO

Alarith Stonemage CoO

Scinari Cathallar CoO

Vanari Warrior CoO

Hurakan Windcharger EotB

Scinari Loreseeker EotB

[arctic talon]

Or the Star Wars TTRPG’s 2e

[queen laurel]

So just an order based tide game for aos is already a lot of choices

[rose thorn]

Very hype for the ruination chamber soul bound drop

[queen laurel]

This is not even including the two other pantheons being death and destruction

[rose thorn]

Chaos needs soulbound support tbh

[queen laurel]

I'm pretty sure they're coming next

[rose thorn]

Yay

[queen laurel]

But unlike the other three

You are completely stuck as evil

[arctic talon]

They’re getting it next

Whenever it releases

Sometime this century

[queen laurel]

Man it would be so funny if beast of chaos still gets archetypes

[celest dome]

Good lord that one sucked

[queen laurel]

Yeah it tells you all you need to know really

A tide game based in order is already stacked

[celest dome]

I mean, tide game doesn't need a lot of character to build upon

[queen laurel]

That is true but

I am at least glad that when they decide to do an aos tide game

They have plenty of options

[celest dome]

Still would prefer Dreadtide with a group of Grand Alliance character

Could also base it on Cursed City

[queen laurel]

That's very nice but me i want a destruction tide where it's ogors, orruks and grots

[celest dome]

It'll probably be an Ork tide game that will happen rather than Orc or Orruks tbh

[queen laurel]

That is the most popular version of the warhammer orcs

Out of the three settings

[rose thorn]

CURSEDTIDE

I would die for cursedtide

Has so much potential

Also there was white dwarf add ons for cursed city

So there’s also vampire lord enemies, black guard, wolves

And lore wise there is a khrone cult

So you can fight khorne stuff

And player wise there is storm casts, necromancer

Dark oath

Also you get a bunch more cursed city characters to fight

Flesh eaters

Skaven?!

Night haunt

[celest dome]

If they do their own IP, I think having a tide game set on Lovercraft could work quite well, like you take multiple cults, you make them look mutated like they've nicely done here, you add some of the monsters that are tied to the Gods and such.

And voila

As for the player character, the nicest thing would be to have it be avatars to different Pantheon, where the tree is basically pledging to differnt god to gain different gifts and ability

[humble shoal]

Or you do it like secret world did it

[celest dome]

Which is

[humble shoal]

Old mmo

They had different factions related to the occult world (in their case templars, illuminati, and the drafon)

[potent orchid]

Man, that game was so cool

[humble shoal]

Yeah its completely free now from what I understand

[potent orchid]

Are all of the mini ARGs still accessible though? I remember when I played it yearsss ago some of the webpages you needed to visit for quests were no longer available

[humble shoal]

Probably not

Sadly

[vagrant fox]

Most likely not, last time I played there was nothing of the sort involved

[humble shoal]

Yeah they used to have actual puzzles involved with the quests that involved using an in game pc to browse

[potent orchid]

That was the coolest part about that game tbh

[humble shoal]

Yeah

[vagrant fox]

Yea

[potent orchid]

It did a lot to immerse you in the whole world conspiracy schtick

[vagrant fox]

~2ish years ago I was just running from zone to zone with a shotgun

There wasn't much puzzling or thinking

[gray umbra]

Secret world was sick

[opaque coyote]

Word Bearers by TazMar

[rose thorn]

They gave word bearers tit armor…

[gray umbra]

Pectoral

[rose thorn]

Titty armor

[vagrant fox]

Guy in the mid has some interesting bedroom eyes

[crisp heath]

wtf i love word bearers now

[sly ivy]

You didn’t before? Smdh

They who count among their number the literal most effective person in the setting

[crisp heath]

i loved chaos when i was 12 and an edgy little girl but then i grew up

[sly ivy]

Erebus, the GOAT

Joke’s on you the rest of us r still edgy little girls

[crisp heath]

maybe i can be an edgy little girl again...

just for a day...

[sly ivy]

[dapper gyro]

2025 is starting strong with that.

[vagrant fox]

They're strong contenders after the World Eaters

and it's never too late to be a chaoschad

[spare osprey]

God tazmar is so good

[sour hornet]

Games Workshop lets us romance both of the elves and a mutant, but the Space Wolf and Sororitas are out of bounds?

[storm jungle]

Inb4 the

"Well akshually marines/sisters shouldnt BE romancable 🤓 "

you know who you are

[viral halo]

Space marine cocks don't work

[storm jungle]

Shut up siggy not you

[viral halo]

They can't get hard

[storm jungle]

You tested this????

[viral halo]

feed a space marine a bluechew or a honeypack

[storm jungle]

[viral halo]

it doesn't work

[vagrant fox]

Thoroughly tested

[viral halo]

They can only get bricked up if slaneesh says they can

Then they can destroy @crystal forum 's bussy

@dusk patrol Wake up bro we're talking cocks

[storm jungle]

[crisp heath]

whoa whoa WHOA there, i heard we´re talking about COCKS in here today?!

[storm jungle]

Its about drive its about power

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-go-t-thrones-hbo-lannisters-gif-9602766

[arctic talon]

We don’t even know if GW said no to Ulfar romance

Lol

Argenta was them saying no

[arctic talon]

I feel like romancing Argenta would end horribly for one reason or another lol

[viral halo]

I have had multiple messages blocked by the bot in the last 15 minutes

[crystal forum]

now that's one hell of a ping to get in this channel at 7pm

[storm jungle]

it would be basically the same as Kibellah

just more torture

[sour hornet]

Bro what

[sly ivy]

Sometimes a Gloriana class battleship is just a Gloriana class battleship

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/ramming-battlefleet-gothic-armada-warhammer40k-imperial-navy-attack-gif-16533820

[sly ivy]

Esp the glistening length of the Imperator Somnium

The Emperor’s… the Emperor’s Dream

[viral halo]

When the fuhrer Trump ascends after the inauguration and commences the annexation of Canada I am coming for you Jay

[sly ivy]

(His other ship, Bucephalus, meaning ox-head, named for his favorite thing to have between his potent thighs)

[dreamy totem]

There are tons of rebellious planets in the imperium. Are any actually successful?

[storm jungle]

It depends.

Some fail, some succeed, its multiple outcomes considering theres tons of factors at play

the problem is we dont hear about any successful ones that arent GSC/Chaos related because they dont represent tabletop factions

[arctic talon]

Kibellah is literally the third most vanilla ass companion in the game when you romance her

Not that it’s bad

[storm jungle]

VANILLA?

💀

[arctic talon]

Bro she’s just kind of rough in bed lol, she doesn’t cut you open like a fucking fish or cover herself in blood

[storm jungle]

"kind of rough"

YEAH NO SHIT YOU ARE HER LIEGE LORD

[viral halo]

just realized I was making fun of Jay, a canadian, while my pfp is the wolverine, a canadian

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-hayden-christensen-anakin-skywalker-what-have-i-done-regret-gif-4921985

Need to make my pfp the punisher again and go full republican

[queen laurel]

Friendly fire is tolerated here so go ahead

Keep wolverine

[vagrant fox]

Canadians regularly enjoy committing warcrimes it's fine

[dreamy totem]

How do they stop surviving guardsman from talking about chaos when they rejoin society? Or do they just eat a bolter round

[dapper gyro]

Space Wolf are all about Bromance and the SoB are all about Celestine.

Of course you can't romance them.

[arctic talon]

YOU CAN MAKE HER NORMAL

[storm jungle]

Also depends.

Some are experts at it and rely on regimental priets and other holy methods.

Others just get executed

[queen laurel]

YOU KNOW THAT'S THE COWARD'S WAY OUT ELITE

[dreamy totem]

So the average guardsmen would probably get executed but a kreig guy or karskin would get let off the hook

[arctic talon]

I think it’s much better then the really creepy ass power dynamic it starts as lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much so

[queen laurel]

To be fair compared to the base game companions she is insane

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

But not any more then Idira or Argenta

She just grew up in a cult the same way Argenta did

She’s just a different flavor of insane

[queen laurel]

That blood spun web armor is sick

[arctic talon]

It is

[paper haven]

Have you lot been spending too much time in Zealot chat again?

[arctic talon]

I think it’s funny she ends up having one of the most well adjusted relationships

Out of all the companions if you get her out of her cult mindset

Emphasis on If

Otherwise it’s not that at all lmao

[queen laurel]

I think that's the great part the irony that out of all the companions it's the literal blood worshiping assassin that can be the most adjusted

I would say cassia is second

But no she is not

[arctic talon]

Cassia, Heinrix and Kibellah

Are all normal

Ish

[queen laurel]

What about the bisexual guard lady

[arctic talon]

Heinrix and Kibellah get most normal relationship award

[queen laurel]

jae

[arctic talon]

Jae has issues

But yeah she can end up in a decent relationship

She just ends up dying horribly young

[paper haven]

Sort of wish that Argenta was romancible

[queen laurel]

Yeah off the top of my head, cassia, yrielet, idira, kibellah, And Abelard have good ends

[arctic talon]

Kibellah always has a kind of shit time if Jae is alive and she isn’t romanced

[queen laurel]

I was really shocked at Jae's ending

What the f*** do you mean i saved your group and your entire business

And you get taken out like

Nothing

[arctic talon]

Yeah Jae’s ending is like

Literally always depressing in some manner lol

[queen laurel]

Yeah then there's also heinrix

I literally made everything in my power to change you and you get taken out by like what

Something f****** random

[arctic talon]

Heinrix lives if Jae becomes shadow baroness

[queen laurel]

Is that supposed to be like the leader of the station

[arctic talon]

No

She just becomes a massive crime lord

[queen laurel]

That sounds like

Something an iconoclast like me wouldn't like

[arctic talon]

Also Jae is funnily enough really pious

She’s like the second or third most pious party member

[queen laurel]

Second only to argenta?

[arctic talon]

She’s second to Argenta or third to Kibellah

[queen laurel]

Damn but she has common sense that's crazy

I'm pretty sure she is an iconaclast right

[arctic talon]

She is

Yeah

But that doesn’t mean she isn’t hugely religious

[queen laurel]

Okay all of them are good but they ain't no abelard

[plush mason]

ngl its wild how good the void shadows dlc was

the 2nd one is gona have quite the bar to meet/pass

[arctic talon]

It’s going to struggle hard imo

It’s about the imperial tithe

[plush mason]

and the arbitus iirc

mainly on there part in the tithe and ensuring it is paid

if the comp is iconoclast i think they could make some really interesting stories with that

[queen laurel]

Yeah that would be fun but if they do a heretical companion i wouldn't mind

[plush mason]

oh yeah that too

but they would need to rework the heretic path to really make it great

which if they do i would love it

[languid meadow]

I thought the bow of the ship was wiggling and for like 3 mins I was trying to figure out if it was or not

[storm jungle]

Nah its the wobbly outer distortion effect of the explosions around it

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Argenta literally introduces herself

By blowing up a wall

Shooting 3 heretics

Almost shooting you in a religious filled craze

And then not apologizing

And insisting on going ahead for the Emperor

And then because it's a CRPG, misses several times because I assume Sister of Battle Training for the schola is 90% prayer and propaganda

And 10% actual combat skills

I love her

Also I have played Fallout NV for hundreds of hours

And I just learned this part

https://youtube.com/shorts/UiuquPdpuuk?si=1G4RIQxdnbgXvPbq

I always just punched them

[sly ivy]

Argenta best girl

Also like you’re always just waiting for her turn bc the best solution to every 40K problem is faith and a bolter.

[sly ivy]

She is a bride of the Emperor. You may only love her and Him — wholly and with your entire soul — from a far distance.

Such is the one true path.

She is the Way. He is the Truth and the Light.

[paper haven]

I'm not asking to marry her just.
y'know

[sly ivy]

Just meditate with her on His grace and goodness. Yes.

[opaque coyote]

I mean they don't need to take a vow of celibacy

Like

At all

Which is sad considering

That even in a Grimdark future, in the worst regime of mankind

The religious order is still more progressive than some of ours

A religious order based on hatred and martyrdom brw

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[sly ivy]

But do any of them have time really

[arctic talon]

This is the reformed version lol

That’s less extreme and violent

[sly ivy]

The Emperor’s work is never done

[arctic talon]

We have the “moderate” version of the imperial creed

[dusk patrol]

Gamers when they can’t fuck a girl in a game and instead just have to be her friend

[arctic talon]

Lol

Argenta only ends up your friend in one path tbh

[queen laurel]

Yeah and literally you make her become a repenta

[arctic talon]

Other one she goes insane with faith and the other one she becomes a repentia

[sly ivy]

Idk man in the last 10,000 years there have been some doozies of regimes. Especially in the ancient old world and north/mesoamerica.

Humans be humaning

[queen laurel]

Wait i can stop her from becoming repenta, because on my last game i saved her and she got the armor and become repenta

[arctic talon]

Yes

[queen laurel]

Oh now i have to do that

[sly ivy]

This rpg has so much content goddamn

[arctic talon]

She has 3 internal flags

Almost every semi important convo you have with her increments it

Fire, faith, humility

Faith = religious psycho^3
Humility = repentia
Fire = actually somewhat normal human being but still incredibly religious

[sly ivy]

The perfect woman

The perfect human

Incredible

[arctic talon]

Lol

[sly ivy]

Unfathomably based

[arctic talon]

Argenta and Idira becoming friends is the funniest shit ever

Because to get the flags for it they’d have to have tried to murder each other 3 different times

[sly ivy]

I always dump idira bc I play psyker but then I kind of miss her

[arctic talon]

Her banter is fun

[queen laurel]

If only there was an actually good guide to get that ending

[dusk patrol]

Any psyker that stupid doesn’t deserve to live that long

[green loom]

I'd spare Idira for the vox masrer

[arctic talon]

Argenta can’t blow Idira’s head off, bring them together to their quests. Bring them to comorroagh

Oh also

Don’t let Idira lobotomize herself lol

[sly ivy]

F

[queen laurel]

The eldar one yes

[dusk patrol]

I gotta remember the Commorragh trigger for next play through

[arctic talon]

There’s so much shit in comorroagh

[dusk patrol]

I’m probably gonna wait for the Arbites dlc

[arctic talon]

Imo there’s very little point in bringing Pasqual to it imo

[dusk patrol]

So I can bring him and Kibella

[arctic talon]

They can have trauma together

[queen laurel]

It's genuinely a shame that this game doesn't have a lot of guides

Because you can find secret weapons and stuff

And incredibly good gear

[arctic talon]

BG3 is way more popular

And the most complex thing doesn’t have a good guide lol

[dusk patrol]

BG3 is also way less complex

[arctic talon]

Yeah that also

There’s a lot less break points

But I’m just saying the most complex system in bg3 doesn’t even have a guide

[dusk patrol]

Mfers be making guides to the different subclasses like it matters smh

[arctic talon]

Which is Gale’s “I’m going to become a God” meter

[queen laurel]

Yeah but with games like rogue trader a guide is definitely going to be helpful

[dusk patrol]

I blame these new gamers

[queen laurel]

Like zog me man some of the things i need to do is so

Bloody f****** specific

[dusk patrol]

Back in my day we’d have a guide by now

[arctic talon]

Lol

[arctic talon]

There’s a guide for companion and romance stuff now

Akshully

[queen laurel]

Well that's good

[winter vessel]

getting more and more into understanding Trench Crusade, going to make this one of my 3 monitors' new desktop wallpaper.

[queen laurel]

Okay good i can probably look for saving every companion guide

[arctic talon]

Well

[queen laurel]

Hopefully i bloody find it

[arctic talon]

Some always die

Unavoidably

[queen laurel]

Well yeah but what can i do

[arctic talon]

Or rather some bystanders

[queen laurel]

This is warhammer 40k

[arctic talon]

Best thing is to make Pasqual kill one of Jae’s friends

And then Jae kills Abel

Or you let Pasqual kill Ulfar and Yirlet

Actually Pasqual just causes issues lmao

[queen laurel]

What about making him hole again

He seems to have gotten better in that regard

[tough haven]

Professional hater

[arctic talon]

That’s what makes him kill Yirlet and ulfar

[plush mason]

huh?

[queen laurel]

Zog

No happy endings

[opaque coyote]

Probably for a hookup. Not necessarily for a relationship though.

Gotta do something other than praying.

Jokes aside. Yeah that is true.

Usually they probably just don't bother taking a vow because

Well they don't need to

They're too busy fighting.

"Send dudes"

"oh okay"

++REDACTED BY THE ORDER OF THE INQUISTION++

[arctic talon]

Wdym huh, he directly kills Yirlet and leaves Ulfar to die

[opaque coyote]

"I meant actual dudes. I need imperial guard reinforcements and artillery"

[arctic talon]

Or he goes insane and goes traitor and dies

Or he becomes a magos malagra and he kills Jae’s friend and a lot of other people

[plush mason]

i never had that happen

[arctic talon]

Oh

Do you get the brass whisper one?

[plush mason]

i had him stay dogmatic and shut down the thing at the end of his quest

i also did the dogmatic C'tan ending so maybe that is part of it lol

[arctic talon]

Oh so he became brasswhisper lol

[opaque coyote]

chaos maxxing

[plush mason]

i think yeah, he like rejoins the exploritors an just disappears

[crystal forum]

i cant believe i cant get weed in florida

literally 1984

[hallow plover]

you can buy guns but not smelly grass

[crystal forum]

i found myself on a lawn chair relaxing after cuddling with a cute boy on the beach and the only thing that was missing was a joint between my fingers

floridians are addicted to spray on suntan but weed is too far

geriatric fucks

[azure knoll]

wild question: can a xeno become a rogue trader somehow?

[median star]

yea

[queen laurel]

no but a rogue trader can employ Xenos on his entourage

[plush mason]

could a rogue trader name a xeno their successor?

[median star]

probably not

[queen laurel]

nope

[plush mason]

their authority is without question in the frontier so who would stop them?

[barren prawn]

youd have to be an imperial citizen to be sanctioned to be a rogue trader

[queen laurel]

the imperium spending multiple amounts of their fleets just kill the guy

[median star]

i reckon the next time they stopped at an imperial port would be the thing that stops them

[plush mason]

true

[plush mason]

which really just shows the grimderp imo, the imperium losses 100s of worlds a year and never even notices but the second a xeno is named a rogue trader by their rogue trader boss they send all the ships they can muster

[median star]

theyd go hmm thats weird whys an aeldari here idk kill under any circumstances but when its them in an entourage you have the actual rogue trader saying no sir i need them and unless its an inquisitor its just toughshit on what they think and even then depending on the trader and inquisitor still may be tough shit

[spring cairn]

i mean there's also no precedent for this being ever attempted

[plush mason]

true

and frankly it could easily happen just because of the size of the administorim

they wouldnt even see the report for a few centuries

[spring cairn]

no becaue rogue traders are also speciest

[azure knoll]

wouldn't even an inquisitor be utterly powerless to stop the trader, realistically?

[plush mason]

depends

they both have unlimited authority so its just a pure soft power system

[spring cairn]

they wouldn't give their warrant of trade passed thru their family for generations to a random non-human

[queen laurel]

yeah no other members of the ship will definitely snitch

[azure knoll]

due to the only thing the inquisitor having being reputation with people who could stop the trader and nothing much to touch the trader

[median star]

if i had to guess this may have happened before but at that point theyre not traders anymore theyre nothing but a band of xeno lead pirates in the eyes of the imperium

[queen laurel]

the imperium is if anything incredibly xenophobic

[plush mason]

said report would still have to make its way through the insane bureaucracy but yeah it would most likely be fast tracked and only take a few decades to land on the desk of someone somewhat important

[azure knoll]

well, if i was to be a rogue trader and i adopted a random eldar child and had a good relationship with it, it'd be named my successor

[spring cairn]

if you were

[azure knoll]

if i wouldn't be able to make a half-eldar, that is, because i'm fairly certain that hasn't been explored much in non-retconned lore

[queen laurel]

congratulations you just angered both the imperium and eldar

[median star]

putting a death warrent on your own adopted child rough

[spring cairn]

he kept crying for no reasons that was either this or shaking it

[plush mason]

they are an eldar child in imperium space, they have a death warrant no matter what

[median star]

well now theyre high priority

[plush mason]

if anything the rogue trader's protection is the only thing keeping them alive

[median star]

theyd be alive only as long as the trader were alive or if they proved themselves to be useful to another

[plush mason]

ofc

thats the way it is for all subjects of a rogue trader

you live so long as you are usefull/tolerated to do so

[median star]

not necessarily you could just be told to fuck off and left on a planet if the trader wasnt spiteful

[azure knoll]

really should give rogue trader a serious solid try because i quit right after the tutorial

[plush mason]

the only person that can gainsay the lord captain is the god emperor himself, so may he have mercy on your soul if you piss off the rogue trader

[median star]

chapter masters aswell big maybe tho i think inquisition is still a tier above them but i dont think any of them would have the balls to try against a chapter master

[plush mason]

oh the inqusition has killed off whole chapters many times

[arctic talon]

The imperium is a lot of soft power

[plush mason]

yup

[arctic talon]

Hard hierarchies almost never apply on a wider scale

[plush mason]

and politically most space marines dont have much power

[arctic talon]

Yeah marines don’t involve themselves with politics

99% of the time

[plush mason]

yup

so as important as they are on the battlefield in the power structure of the imperium they are fairly small fish

after all the high lords can just order more be made if they need too

[arctic talon]

Marines soft power is the might makes right flavor

And tradition/longevity

Rather then actually having a power base

[median star]

they also have control over their own legion the brazen bulls or minotaurs one of the two they both exist idk which one they control tho

[plush mason]

minotaurs

the high lords' executioners

and space spartans

[median star]

does the inquisition also have control over their own or am i making shit up

[plush mason]

they have the deathwatch

[arctic talon]

Red scorps and crimson hunters

Both are known to work with the inqusition

Deathwatch aren’t directly under the inqusition either

But they are def tied to it

[median star]

whats their foundings or do we know

[plush mason]

the grey knights too kinda though the inquisition can only make requests of them iirc

[arctic talon]

Wait not crimson hunters

Ugh

[plush mason]

do they have direct control of anything?

[arctic talon]

I’m forgetting the chapter name

[plush mason]

like holy hell

[arctic talon]

No

[plush mason]

"first among equals" seems to be the common thread with the inquisition

[arctic talon]

Pre M35 for red scorps. Unknown founding

Red hunters are the other chapter

And they seem to just be an extension of the inquisitions big 3 ordis

[plush mason]

ofc the fact they have no direct control is what makes them so powerful as strange as it is to think about

[arctic talon]

Unknown founding + never seen without inqusition or inqusitors snooping around

[median star]

also didnt the iron hands have a pretty sizeable traitor thing go down after the hh

[arctic talon]

Moirae schism was a massive imperium wide civil war yeah

[plush mason]

how many civil wars has the imperium had?

or is that number a bit to high to count lol

[arctic talon]

Way too many

Moirae schism literally shook the Ecclisarchy and mechanicus to its core though lol

[marsh socket]

Hey so Fulgrim and the emperors children are returning but I got to know why would his sons follow him again didn't he abandoned them twice. Once during the invasion of terra and just before that?

[summer mural]

Alright
New years parties are over
I decided it was time to call it for the year when my friend drunkenly took my charger by mistake and I drunk called my own number from his phone for an hour to get it back

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/songebomb-issues-gif-19904632

[marsh socket]

Fair enough

After all the world eaters still follow angron

[storm jungle]

Most Chaos Marines are incredibly simplistic goals wise

at the end of the day they just wanna kill people and please their gods

[sly ivy]

Ah the core narrative element of 40K

Also tbf Hamlet and Lear

… and Paradise Lost.

[marsh socket]

Always thought if fulgrim came back it would also be his clone aswell and we get a new loyalist legion split with a new chaos army

[storm jungle]

the Fulgrim clone is never coming back

[marsh socket]

RIP

He's on display

[storm jungle]

the author made it clear due to all these theories, hes just a plot device

we got enough primarchs as is

[marsh socket]

Probably what he always wanted

[spring cairn]

what about a secundarch

[sly ivy]

FULGRIM CLONE STAR CHILD VESSEL CONFIRMED is what I hear

Brb making a YouTube vid

[sly ivy]

I don’t think they know about secundarch, Pip

[crisp heath]

minotaurs look so mufuggin goddam cool tbh fr ong

[plush mason]

hard to go wrong with space spartans lol

[crisp heath]

i never would have thought a brown paint scheme could work so well (granted, it´s bronze)

[dusk patrol]

I never thought that a grey paint scheme would work so well!

[crisp heath]

(granted, it´s silver)

[storm jungle]

^

Silver is sexy

[celest dome]

Silver > Gold

[plush mason]

agreed

[queen laurel]

Silver is awesome

[plush mason]

hell argent is literally a name for holy silver iirc

idk where i was going with that lol

[crisp heath]

Shut up Gera

[plush mason]

go back to wow

[queen laurel]

Silver is awesome

That's where you're going

[plush mason]

correct

[outer wave]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AoSLore/s/c7wxy3jCyH @queen laurel

[queen laurel]

Ohh thanks

I actually haven't checked warhammer community today

[outer wave]

It's got a banger quote

[crisp heath]

that´s pretty cool to know actually

(if true)

[plush mason]

it is actually lol

[crisp heath]

why "hell" argent though

for "holy" silver

[plush mason]

argent means silver just like gilded means gold

[plush mason]

its just a southern American thing i guess, we start a lot of statments with "hell" lol

[crisp heath]

🤔

i´ve been to buenos aires btw. was nice. not sure how people were managing though, food prices were as high as they are in germany, with presumably lower wages. that was in march

i hope argentina gets better, they deserve it

[humble shoal]

Was argentina the one where the president mummified his wife

and then hijinks ensued

[crisp heath]

uhh definitely sounds like him lol

[humble shoal]

Juan peron

[crisp heath]

oh

yeah

but it also sounds like something milei would do lol

[humble shoal]

The hijinks were wild and involved necrophilia

[steady dawn]

what level psyker would you say the reject is?

[storm jungle]

Zeta / Epsilon

Powerful but very glass-cannon'y

[rocky gale]

Na I’m Alpha+

[storm jungle]

silence Beta

sorry I meant 🅱️eta

[sly ivy]

[rose thorn]

No flak to the artist because form what I know their comic things are like, lore friendly. But alot of Reddit artists do this and just make up lore lmao

[storm jungle]

This is straight up from the RPGs so beats me

[dusk patrol]

If only they found the psyker power to draw mouths

[rose thorn]

Saw this one talking about space marine chapters and it was just

Not true lmao

And was based off memes

[storm jungle]

What was it

[crisp heath]

i´m a sigma

[humble shoal]

Sigma minoris

[dapper gyro]

The Ar is the element name for silver on the periodic table, because it stands for Argent. In French, argent means money, which the church back in the day saw it as corruption (yet they wanted to hoard it 😑 ).

Similarly, Au is the old writing of Or, French for gold. Because "Au" also means "at"... so they changed the word.

[crisp heath]

i was mostly interested in the prefix "hell"

which i still don´t really get but that´s okay

lots of things i dont get

[plush mason]

it wasnt a prefix lol

[crisp heath]

predicate

[dapper gyro]

Money as a sign of corruption...

[plush mason]

like i said, its just something we do where i am from, we start a lot of our sentences with hell for some reason lol

[dapper gyro]

Culture history is weird.

[plush mason]

especially in the linguistics department

[rose thorn]

I can try to find it but it would be hell to find

[storm jungle]

[plush mason]

just throw on some auto eye bleach googles and you will be fine

[crisp heath]

Gera

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-radioactive-man-ny-eyes-goggles-do-nothing-gif-12845538

[whole ruin]

Question please, I do know that Warhammer and Warhammer 40k are in different universes but I can see the similarities between the spawns of Nurgle from both Warhammer and 40k, can anyone confirm that the both universes are using the same monsters in both universes?

[arctic talon]

The daemons are all very similar/the same looking + acting(generally) across settings

The only setting locked Daemons are the Slaanesh twins

who exist only in AoS

[hallow saddle]

honestly as time goes on I can see them separating them more

for copyright and trademark and legal reasons etc

but yer atm lots of the daemons are shared between the settings. in fantasy a long time ago one of the random mutations on your chaos daemon was a plasma pistol in the fantasy setting

It's basically all from the Realm of Chaos books from the late 80s

2 books that were about chaos in both fantasy & 40k

If u like chaos they are still worth reading

[rose thorn]

So demons and the gods in age of sigmar and warhammer 40K are the same lore wise (mostly) but they are completely different settings and don’t interact at all in lore

They are like 2 different settings

[whole ruin]

Thank you for the information! 🙂

[opaque coyote]

Honestly still have the headcanon that the Chaos Gods are "bigger" than what we see. We basically just see different manifestations of them throughout the universe

Similar to how Daemons are the shards of the Chaos Gods

[rose thorn]

ye, except slaanehs is currently chained in gag between the realms of light and darkness </3

[opaque coyote]

I guess I'd consider that only a part that is trapped.

While the "40k" part is being the shithead that they always are

[sly ivy]

It goes further than that. Even current lore (can dig up refs — some loremaster stuff in White Dwarf etc.) agrees that the universes are separate but there is only one warp.

So the warp/realm of chaos connects all of the universes inc. 40k and AoS

And daemons are parts of the warp herniated into the physical universe.

[crisp heath]

?

that is news to me

so there´s slaanesh 1 and slaanesh 2?

[sly ivy]

No there's only Slaanesh

Only one warp, multiple universes.

Hang on

[crisp heath]

oookay

that´s strange

not sure if it makes sense

[sly ivy]

White Dwarf 487, "Ask Grombrindal" section, which is written by some of the head lorekeepers at GW

[crisp heath]

haha

i wanna have "Lorekeeper" in my CV one day

[sly ivy]

I love that GW exists tbh what an incredible nerd talent sink

but of course so is e.g. spacex

It is the time of the nerd

[rocky gale]

Yea Warp is full of weird timey whimey stuff

[crisp heath]

how do you get employed by GW to write lore even?

[rocky gale]

Like it's not bound by linear time, so while the Eldar Empire ended with the Birth of Slaanesh, Slaanesh always existed.

[arctic talon]

Apply for it

[sly ivy]

I found it

[arctic talon]

The issue is AoS/whfb doesn’t have the warp

[sly ivy]

It does

They just call it the realm of chaos.

[arctic talon]

AoS def does not have the warp

[sly ivy]

It does

Just called realm of chaos

[arctic talon]

The realms of chaos in AoS are much more physical then the warp

[sly ivy]

As noted in snippet above

They are literally the warp. In the newer sourcebooks esp they're described in the exact same way. Realm of souls and emotion.

AoS universe is weird because it might itself exist within the warp, but in a sort of webway-like bubble.

[arctic talon]

What mentions that second part

For AoS

Just asking

[arctic talon]

AoS is a direct continuation of whfb

They’re seperate universes from 40k imo

[sly ivy]

I mean possibly literally in the webway given that we are given extremely obvious hints that the Old Ones created the realms.

AoS 3 main rulebook realm of chaos section (or is it chaos gods section)

[rocky gale]

Personally I think connecting them is dumb and lessens both

[arctic talon]

I find connecting the two boring

[arctic talon]

Thanks

[sly ivy]

I don't have AoS 4 rulebook unfortunately

Yeah I mean they should be connected only vaguely

I like the one-warp and that's it

I mean WHFB had cutesy stuff like the Dark Shadows campaign

Where there was a lot of Old One er stuff on Albion and you could get artifacts that were literally 40k wargear haha

But it's silly like if there are infinite realities then why would AoS/WHFB/40k bleed into each other so often vs all of the myriad others

[rocky gale]

Sure old jokes and easter eggs is one thing but straight up saying "The 40k Eldar made Slaanesh in both universes and AoS takes place in the Webway" is just needlessly reductive and is basically saying AoS is a side project

[sly ivy]

<<AoS is kind of a side project>> ok ok but really I like AoS

Still at least the Slaanesh bit is word of god stated

[rocky gale]

Eh everything is canon until it isn't

[sly ivy]

This is also made clear in the old Realm of Chaos books

yeah but this has been consistent since the early 90s at least

Never contradicted and reinforced repeatedly.

[rocky gale]

and I'm consistenly ignoring it

[shadow plover]

Isn't Slaanesh imprisoned in AoS at the moment

[rocky gale]

Yep

[sly ivy]

Yes.

[rocky gale]

In the Light and Darkness fart chamber

[sly ivy]

bro y u outing my fetish 2 every1

[sly ivy]

I find the easter eggs kind of annoying too. Anyway broadly I agree should be as separate as possible.

[crisp heath]

ewwww

[sly ivy]

AoS really really needs some central really good book series.

[arctic talon]

It has plenty of good individual books

[sly ivy]

Needs an Eisenhorn, Gaunt's Ghosts, etc.

[arctic talon]

Which I’m fine with

[sly ivy]

It does.

[rocky gale]

Ehhh

AoS doesn't need a Horus Heresy

[sly ivy]

Dark Harvest personal fave.

[shadow plover]

Are the Gotrek books as good as the WFB ones

[rocky gale]

Or a Dawn of Fire

[sly ivy]

No not a HH

Oh right there is Gotrek

[sly ivy]

Well

[arctic talon]

Def not a Horus heresy

[arctic talon]

Meh

[sly ivy]

... responses are gonna vary

[shadow plover]

[sly ivy]

But I will say that Felix is missed. The pre-AoS Gotrek books were kind of Felix books. Like Felix is this deeply flawed, v relatable human and Gotrek is kind of a force of nature.

The AoS Gotrek books are about Gotrek more or less.

[shadow plover]

Fair

[arctic talon]

Turns out

Gotrek isn’t the best on his own

[sly ivy]

If you go back and read the WHFB G&F books so much of it is about like Felix's jealousy or his angst or his romantic misadventures

You spend a lot of it in Felix's head.

[rocky gale]

Doesn't each book basically pair him with a new temporary companion?

[sly ivy]

Yes and they kind of fall flat.

[shadow plover]

just finished the last G&F book a month or so back

[sly ivy]

You need to develop the relationship

Like Maleneth is with us for a while and she's fun I guess but like

[shadow plover]

might move on to the Gotrek books at some point

[sly ivy]

She is a femme fatale dark elf

Gotrek is already an extreme cartoonish slayer character

He needs a straight man/woman

As a foil

Not another xtreme abhuman.

Jordain was an ok nu Felix for a minute then ||he got killed off||

But he was also a prince. Like part of Felix's appeal is that he's sort of an upper middle class rando and he has a strained relationship with his family plus a sort of uncomfortable awk thing where he comes off as an annoying snooty university guy to commoners and as a pathetic poor grad student to nobles.

He's sort of vaguely a fuck up and he's in the whole Gotrek situation because he got in trouble for doing illegal stuff during a silly protest, got extremely drunk, and pledged to be Gotrek's little sidekick b/c he'd pretty much ruined his career prospects.

[shadow plover]

true but after a while he's pretty much a multi year veteran with massive amount of experience and he did stay with Gortek for more reasons than just the oath he made drunk

[sly ivy]

Yes this is all true.

[shadow plover]

and by the end he was pretty much a renowned hero of the empire

[sly ivy]

Also also true but people still shit talk him and his books about himself

Anyway yeah Gotrek is like....... not supposed to be relatable. We're supposed to be like "o wauw!" when, once every three books, he says something nice or indicates that he cares about someone.

Maybe unpopular opinion but you read G&F for Felix.

And there could absolutely be a new Felix but he/she has to be a normalish person.

At least to start out

And the originals btw also did the companion of the week thing; they were just ancillary companions to G&F

I'm supposed to be answering work e-mails why am I doing this

[shadow plover]

yeah was about to say all the companions around the duo were amazing characters all, too

[sly ivy]

Snorri omfg

Great character

Max? Ulrika?

I mean they were regulars

But there are also also the temporary ones.

[crisp heath]

there´s three books for ulrika the vampire

i read them when i was like 16, good times

[sly ivy]

Hahahaha excellent.

[crisp heath]

i don´t know what she was like in the original books but those books were bretty good i thought

[sly ivy]

She was pretty great in the originals.

She starts off mortal and is obviously dating down w/ Felix.

But at the same time she feels insecure b/c Felix has all this university education

So they annoy each other in a very um

Well it reads as very natural haha.

[crisp heath]

yeah, honestly i was surprised to find out the ulrika books were written by a man, she felt like such a believable tomboy girl character

[sly ivy]

I think that stems from the foundation laid by... King, was it, who started writing her? Yeah he has a fine touch. I wonder whether he has daughters haha.

No  — two sons 🤷‍♂️

[shadow plover]

Yeah King wrote all the original G&F books where she was introduced and turned

didn't actually know she had a dedicated run of novels too

[storm jungle]

Ulrika's series is great

i never touched it tho because it was depressing after the entire thing wraps up 😭

[arctic talon]

Suffering builds character

[whole ruin]

thank you 🙏

[sly ivy]

Dare I ask whether you’ve read trollslayer & slayer

[storm jungle]

I have read the entire series

[sly ivy]

Good god what a gut punch but also so good

[storm jungle]

Yeah tho the thing that sucks is after Ulrika's ending in her own book her actual death in the ending main novels is really weird

like she just becomes evil for some reason and just gets staked, the disconnect between the authors is really obvious

[sly ivy]

😦

[storm jungle]

tho Felix/Gotrek's ending at least makes up for it 😔

mostly lol

[sly ivy]

insanely melancholic, both books

Wait not trollslayer

Kinslayer

[storm jungle]

Yeaaaah the twist of knowing what Snorri did was fucked

especially after like 20+ books

[sly ivy]

And trippy dreamlike is it happening or isn’t it happening warp/chaos/reality ripping stuff at the end of Slayer.

[storm jungle]

Yeah but it essentially is

because during the End Times all the gods were physically taking part in the story

Grimnir fucking over Gotrek tho was some wild shit

[sly ivy]

Good series. Emotional anchor lost somewhat in aos version

[storm jungle]

Its good but its just not the same without Felix

Gotrek says as much in the novels

[sly ivy]

Felix Ulrika, Felix Max, Felix Gotrek

Critical dyads

Also Teclis and those elf twins. Counts as dyad bc twins.

[green loom]

Someone say elf twinks?

Oh, twins

Nvm

[sly ivy]

Teclis is the archtwink he brooks no challenge

[worn nova]

Fucking archtwink

[rose thorn]

Want to murder someone

Someone made super edgy fanart of the raptor chapter

Which like

Cool chapter what ever

But

THEY GAVE THE MARINE A PET DINOSAUR RAPTOR

I hate horus galaxy

[worn nova]

Sick tho

[rose thorn]

Know what valid

But also it was posted on r/horusgalaxy

[sly ivy]

Absolutely unparalleled

“Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels”
-Teclis of Ulthuan

[rose thorn]

Sigmar bless AOS art

It’s so good

Model is uh

[sly ivy]

Well, almost unparalleled

[sly ivy]

We don’t talk about the model

[rose thorn]

I saw an amazing kitbash where they cut off his face

And replaced it

And it must have been hell

[sly ivy]

He looks like a constipated nun

[rose thorn]

The face is so bad

I think someone put a harlequin mask on him

Which looked good

[sly ivy]

That’s not a bad idea

I’m sure the sculptor is really talented just like

The face yeah.

[worn nova]

😭

[sly ivy]

My prunes! Now!

[winter vessel]

MAXIMUM focus

[rose thorn]

He is very very elf

But no other elf in the setting looks like that

[queen laurel]

God Bless indeed

[queen laurel]

Crazy that they have these Troggoths but not River Trogs

[rose thorn]

Miretroggoths?

Miretrog

[queen laurel]

yes

[rose thorn]

OH mirebrute troggoth

Fun fact, in 3rd he got buffs in Gloomspite gitz

The buff for trogg armies only applied on the trogg keyword not the gloomspites trogg keywords

[queen laurel]

yeah so they have that giant mire brute but they don't have Fellwater Trooggoths

or river trolls

[rose thorn]

It’s a distinct evolution thing I’m pretty sure

[queen laurel]

yeah but these guys and Kruleboyz live in the most disgusting swamps in the mortal realms

you would think kruleboyz we'll find a group of river trolls useful and you know try to bring them along but apparently

Only the really big ones are brought along

[rose thorn]

I bet kruleboyz are getting a mid edition update

[worn nova]

Why is that ?

[rose thorn]

Idk, none of the aelves I’ve seen in AOS look so

Uh

What’s the word

Elder scrolls marrowin

[worn nova]

So just odd looking then

[sly ivy]

When he made his avatar body after ascending to godhood his dysmorphia hit bad

[queen laurel]

Yeah look at these

[sly ivy]

Teclis World that Was / Teclis mortal realms. Colorized.

[queen laurel]

Kruleboyz will be heavily reliant on the big WWWAAAAAAAGGGHH

[rose thorn]

Big wagh is so insane

There’s no reason to play mono faction

[queen laurel]

Ironjawz regiment of renown looks good

[rose thorn]

They nerfed all the models in it

[queen laurel]

And that's the sad part

[rose thorn]

Actually not bad

But in 3rd

[queen laurel]

but yeah sheesh

[rose thorn]

Hobgrots did that anyway

[queen laurel]

Kruleboyz are in the very deep of the mire this time

[rose thorn]

Oh they gave skumdrekk a new paintjob

Nice

[queen laurel]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/zwya9tjj/chronicles-of-ruin-fist-of-gork/

[rose thorn]

Yee

[queen laurel]

Gordrakk got a community story hopefully gobsprakk as well

[rose thorn]

Side note Heard chaos players are happy right now, their Ror are insanely good

And their armies are really

Really good

Except Slaanesh

Slaanesh rule is usable now

[queen laurel]

wait so slaves of darkness, BOK, and MON are doing well?

[rose thorn]

Slaves to darkness is really great

Blades of khrone players are blades of khorning

Maggotkin of nurgle I heard having a lot of fun

[queen laurel]

considering their old placement

i think they deserve that

[rose thorn]

They have a lot of play styles

And have a good hero model balance

Also they just got models from underworlds