40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

and he begs that hes not a soldier

[normal light]

KZ2 is great in it's greyness

[storm jungle]

Yeah it uses it well like i said above

because like

helghan is literally a shithole

its like Krieg but industrial lol

[spring cairn]

yeah but unlike krieg it was always a shithole

[storm jungle]

the entire planet is PISS

[spring cairn]

even before they settle it

[storm jungle]

Skill issue on the helghans part

[outer wave]

My planet when Mexico filter

[vagrant fox]

Just wear gasmasks it's fine

[spring cairn]

that's the moral of kz

living in a shithole

makes you a shit person

and bald

[keen nova]

A GLORIOUS shithole.

Now that I think of it, Kreig v Helghast would be metal as fuck...

[normal light]

Nah, profits are going in, than we are working

Well, not we, colonists are

[storm jungle]

LOL

[keen nova]

The planet that makes you bald

[normal light]

though why this thing was brought up

[storm jungle]

because KZ3 was trying to be a hollywood movie

MAWLR 💀

[keen nova]

There's actually an artist that draws the Helghast in 40k.

[storm jungle]

yeah wolfdawg

my favorite furry

[keen nova]

Oh so that's his na-hes a furry????

[vagrant fox]

He is a furry isn't he

[storm jungle]

Correct

but he cooks

[spring cairn]

this is awesome

but since they're a furry

[spring cairn]

it sucks ass

sorry

[storm jungle]

NOOOO-

[vagrant fox]

Don't know about those knee triangles

[spring cairn]

also idk why but

[keen nova]

This shit is so sexy man. Gonna save it and send it to my fellow helghast enjoyers

[spring cairn]

weird shoes

[spring cairn]

when i think about it

helghans are mutants

just like the average furry

so i'll let it slide

[vagrant fox]

I'd like grilled cheese about now

[normal light]

mutants - a bit different from Vektans

[spring cairn]

mutants

[vagrant fox]

1% mutated makes them freaks of nature

[spring cairn]

look at their bald head

and their sickly skin

tell me this is not some kind of mutation

[keen nova]

@storm jungle do you have the BALD FUCK clip too?

[vagrant fox]

They're just like me fr fr

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/killzone-helghast-gif-13219563782466326331

[keen nova]

"Thats what I'm talking about"

[vagrant fox]

He's just overworked from pulling banger speeches

[keen nova]

"This shit means something to me man."

[normal light]

You?

[keen nova]

That's it I'm shaving my head

GLORY TO HELGHAN

[normal light]

https://tenor.com/view/killzone-liberation-killzone-helghast-flag-killzone-game-killzone-killzone-helghan-flag-gif-1037429636361051591

[vagrant fox]

I started at about 22 and look at me, I'm doing great

[spring cairn]

22 and already mutated beyond salvation

I weep for you

[outer wave]

Why are his eyebags so red

[spring cairn]

because he's eevil

[vagrant fox]

Helghast doinks

[outer wave]

I think he's tired

[spring cairn]

tired because very evil

[storm jungle]

I need to record that later lmao

[normal light]

That's what bad ecology does to you

[storm jungle]

Scot's review is like 1h long but uh

ill nail it when i get time today

[outer wave]

He needs better sleep, maybe he'll be good the next morning :)

[vagrant fox]

Not mutated yet but I was already pale as a corpse, I joined willingly

[normal light]

Says the person who lives in the industrial town with a lot of heavy metal industry 💀

[storm jungle]

least uninhabitable human country

[normal light]

Like I can go to one of the town districts and see that local puddles are bright brown mixed with red

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[vagrant fox]

Nothing like the smell of fertiliser in the air and seeing oil contaminated water

Puts cancer in you like it should

[normal light]

I wonder why there is a spike in respiratory diseases within the area

[vagrant fox]

The people just need to harden up and wear respirator masks

[normal light]

There is also an abandoned uranium mine in a nearby small town

[green loom]

They're like Slavs

[normal light]

What do you mean by that?

[green loom]

Semi similar culture group to the "clean" and "good" Vektans viewed as mutated filth

[normal light]

Ah yes

[storm jungle]

Yeah the Helghast are based on like fascist English-Russian-Germans mostly

so its a three-way mix, its why most of the big boys on the commanding side are british lol

[sly ivy]

Euros are so cute w ur lil countries

❤️

[winter vessel]

surprisingly. Killzone would seem like the kind of game that exists in a movie where it was only seen in that film

[crisp heath]

Took me 3 attempts to understand this sentence

[humble shoal]

Killzone is the game made for a tv show

Like the law and order one where tobuscus was the announcer

(And Ice-T was the chief gamer)

[storm jungle]

Hey a reviewer i watched said this too

[sly ivy]

Sentenceception

[misty vector]

something that like badger and skinny pete would play

[crystal forum]

killzone is the type of game you'd see jesse pinkman playing in his ruined drug house

did you guys know the footage from rage in breaking bad is a custom level made specifically for the show

[paper haven]

Helghan did nothing wrong.

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/bem_d49NBLc?si=MrpJBOKd4gHk_X9E

🔥

[rose thorn]

The night lord pick doenst feel great tbh

It’s an upgrade sprue to an existing kit

[storm jungle]

Yeah ive heard a lot of the same opinions on other spots

Even if a SM model had to get 40k 1st place theres definitely better ones lol

[arctic talon]

Ratling one got second place

I would have killed for it to win I'm ngl

[rose thorn]

Ushron being on thsi list is fair because it released after last year’s model of the year

The liche is

Fine

You got 75% of the model being nothing and 25% having so much color you can’t even tell what you are looking at

[arctic talon]

next year for 40k

I hope the phoenix lord wins

the spider one

I forgot her name

[rose thorn]

Yeah but you know it’s gonna be fulgrim

[arctic talon]

even though its prolly going to be fulgrim

fulgrim is really good though

[rose thorn]

Yeah

But primarchs ALWAYS win

It’s like the law

[sly ivy]

The Lion is an extremely badass figure.

[storm jungle]

Hes very mid

Even as far as Primarchs go

he just a bigger space marine lol

[storm jungle]

Chaos Primarch models at least got some creativity going to be fair

they are like mini-dark souls bosses

[green loom]

https://vxtwitter.com/mikeshapiroland/status/1874213952680607922

[dapper gyro]

The loyalist marines are absolutely too standardized. So few official option allowed considering all of the products they put out. While 3D parts or modification are generally not allowed.

It is way easier to kit bashing with Chaos Marines.

[green loom]

There's little official options because of the 3d parts

[dusk patrol]

It depends on the store manager and their whims ultimately but the only sure fire way to not be allowed is by bringing in an obvious third party model

[arctic talon]

For GW stores yeah

But my local GW store is extremely lenient tbh

[dusk patrol]

The vast majority don’t give a fuck about bits and printed pieces

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Just don’t make it a problem for them by yelling it when someone from higher up is visiting lol

[dusk patrol]

It’s only if you’re super blatant, and half the time it’s a way to kick out the people who have a tech priestess with massive bare tits and and a huge naked ass hanging out

[arctic talon]

Lore accurate electro priests/j

[dusk patrol]

I’m sure some are more stingey but even then GE policy is if you made it yourself, digitally or sculpting, it’s ok, and for most 3D printed stuff it’s basically impossible to prove that

[arctic talon]

Also honestly every tournament I’ve ever gone to doesn’t give a shit about this stuff

[dusk patrol]

I also don’t agreed that you’re that limited by just what GW puts out either

Especially for marines

Is it expensive? Now that’s a different thing.

[dapper gyro]

Hence the "Official" status. Even the guys at the Official GW store in my city are not agree with that, but they can't do it against GW policy.

[dusk patrol]

But especially with heresy now there isn’t a lack of sprues and different options and models to draw from.

Yes and as I said

Even with official

People do fine

I see people posting extremely unique kitbashes and ideas all the time across multiple servers

[dapper gyro]

It is a case to case basic really.

[dusk patrol]

The fact that 3D printing exists and it’s basically impossible for GW to claim most basic bits and pieces weren’t designed by you, which is their official policy

[dapper gyro]

I mean, fun game with friends at local stores it totally all out.

[spare osprey]

i would've preferred he kept his 30k style

very segmented

instead of the smoothness of primaris

also coulda had a cooler pose, had him killing a crazy beast or something

instead of just

walking

[sly ivy]

Damn bro I hear you but like part of it is he’s so cool he only needs 2 walk and the universe bends 2 his will

[arctic talon]

His pose is pretty meh tbh

[sly ivy]

[arctic talon]

I would have preferred a power pose/standing one

[sly ivy]

Bro is legit non stasis field 11000 years old he needs 2 get his steps in

He’s just a sleepy guy

[dapper gyro]

Lion is a feline, aka cat. So yes, he does love to sleep it seems.

[sly ivy]

An excellent point

[keen nova]

Well according to Boris, Vektans are a particular shade of yellow

[dapper gyro]

Oh no, does that mean Lion's waifu will be one of the catgirl abhuman?

[dusk patrol]

[sly ivy]

The Lion’s waifu is and always will be Luther.

[crystal forum]

it's 2025 guys, this means emperor model is coming soon

[winter vessel]

I really am curious for what they have in store this year, models wise.

[dusk patrol]

• new faction for 40,000 (Emperor's Children)
• major range additions for 40,000 (Imperial Guard and Aeldari)
• first proper year of releases for Age of Sigmar 4e
• another big wave of vehicles for Heresy

there's rumours for;

• Chaos Duardin in Age of Sigmar
• 2.5/3E for Heresy
• a new Space Hulk box
• the next big wave of releases for Space Marines, Space Wolf update and new models/sprues for Scars, Iron Hands, Raven Guard, Sallies, and Imperial Fists

[keen nova]

I always wondered why more guard regiments Don't use underbarrel grenade launchers.

Also, plasma gun with an integrated opic? 👀

[storm jungle]

Because the Imperium isnt good with logistics or providing for its troops.

[celest dome]

Lost tech

[queen laurel]

it's a laser gun

i'm just gonna stick to recoiless laser rifles

[keen nova]

I could understand that with more complex technologies like the lasgun it'sself but Slapping some rail underneath the barrel shouldn't he rocket science.

[celest dome]

It's the Imperium/Admech

It's not science to them

[keen nova]

Perhaps it would violate the ww2-esc vibe most regiments peak at?

[storm jungle]

I mean its not even that

[celest dome]

Moreso molds issues, where they would have to be separate molds from the normal Lasgun

[storm jungle]

the Imperium is not progressive

you would quite literally be shot for suggesting this idea

[keen nova]

Admech bravely takes the community's flak for the setting

[storm jungle]

but the admech is not 1 body

[queen laurel]

yeah they are so backwards that one of their ways of getting new stuff is literally finding the old stuff they used to build

[storm jungle]

these would absolutely never get mass-produced

[keen nova]

Don't admech break their own rules all the time? I think it's just a genuine oversight.

[storm jungle]

Yeah for minor stuff, what you are asking is way bigger.

[keen nova]

The logistical reason makes alot of sense

[storm jungle]

It does but the imperium is not logistical

[queen laurel]

yeah the outliers do, but most of the body is organised at their belief of not progressing

[storm jungle]

they dont understand sense

yeah again, you could literally get the harshest treatment for proposing this idea

and thats if your admech pals are a bit understanding lol

[queen laurel]

yeah you go up to a tech priest and tell him to make a new scope design to be used all around the imperium he will rip your limbs off

[keen nova]

I think we might be reading a little too much into this

UBGL aren't anything new or even Potentially heretical. Which is why I think the Logistical argument is starting to make more sense

[storm jungle]

Its not about the UBGL being heretical.

Its mass-application.

The Imperium is way too disjointed to give these to every type of lasgun through a endless amount of issues.

Some techpriest will just be a grognard and deny it on his factorium

Some noble will say the lasguns their hive produces are not "fit" for these "ugly" contraptions.

Some will get lost in the mail/during transport.

etc etc

[queen laurel]

Yeah the imperium is a petty galaxy spanning empire

why do you think in dark tide we get like multiple versions of the same thing

[storm jungle]

Yeah this.

Theres a reason the Imperium does not even have a single standard pattern weapon.

Its why while a dozen regiments might have a kantreal lasgun as their "standard" a ton of others dont. Same with so many other weapons.

[keen nova]

Makes sense why it's so rare. At least the Accatran Pattern has it.

[storm jungle]

Yeah now you get it

basically half the issues of "why not" in the Imperium side of the setting is people are stupid.

Remember we literally got folks IRL that dont wanna wear masks because "oh my god i cant breathe"

Dies from virus

stupidity and illogical defenses are endless with us no matter the setting or universe

[queen laurel]

Yeah you want to be logical with the galactic spanning empire that will skin you and lynch you because your skin was a little bit more pale than usual

that's not gonna work

[storm jungle]

Yeah not even a joke with that one lol

Like we got plenty of examples from our own history as is.

[dusk patrol]

Under barrel launchers aren’t used much in any case, that’s why largely you see militaries at best have one guy with one and often they’ll just use a more dedicated launcher and carry the ammo.

It’s not Call of Duty where you’re firing them around corners all the time getting kills or whatever, its a pretty specific niche use

[storm jungle]

And as we know 40k takes its realistic use of gear very seriously

[queen laurel]

me explaining to someone how a gun that shoots literal gravity exists in real life and can be applied in the same way in setting

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

I’d say most depictions of grenade launchers in novels are actually pretty faithful to their actual use.

Not exactly a hard thing to do but hey

[storm jungle]

To be fair its not really hard to-

yeah lmao

Aim
Boomp

https://tenor.com/view/m4-m4a1-ar15-modern-warfare-mw19-gif-17312524179685347405

[dusk patrol]

I mean their actual use as a weapon, which generally is only to hit or flush out enemies behind cover where you have a proper angle.

And not just “enemies grouped, spam spam gl, reload”

[barren prawn]

SO

the thousand sons enumerations are all bullshit right?

like no one else uses them

and theyre not consistent between writers

[shadow plover]

what do you mean bullshit

it's just meditative states and a technique unique to the legion

and probably only written by McNeil

[dusk patrol]

Yeah we see it work, it was a simpler way for them to focus their power as one together and have a somewhat measured system of it

[barren prawn]

like i thought they would have some meaning in the lore but they all seem like asspulls for whenever it fits the writer

"UHH 🤓 aktuallay the 3rd one is faster than the second but more safe than the 4th"

[young pecan]

Directed Energy Weapons are a spooky real world example of sci-fi ass weapons

[dapper gyro]

Reloading it is easy, but it is not easy to aim and not accurate at all. These things suck.

[dusk patrol]

They’re not all explained exactly, some have more clear reasons for use but it’s just different meditation states or ways to focus powers for different tasks

Idk do you want them to monologue in their head about the manual everytime.

[barren prawn]

i want them to be more consistant

[dusk patrol]

Are they even used inconsistently? McNeil is basically the only one who writes them.

And most aren’t clearly defined enough to be inconsistent

Beyond the lower ones seem to be more based around more direct focus and less power and that inverts more as they go up

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/afham-saul-goodman-better-call-saul-bob-odenkirk-jimmy-mcgill-gif-25559831

[sharp pollen]

cool to be a heretic, you can modify your weapon however you want

oh wait, there are orks...

and once again, orcs are the best, who would have thought...

[storm jungle]

Orks getting W upon Ws

[sharp pollen]

btw orCs or orKs

never can memorise

[storm jungle]

its K for warhammer copyright reasons

well just for 40k

in Warhammer Fantasy they are Orcs

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-freeks-hop-on-warhammer-40k-speed-freeks-40k-ork-gif-12856131664520497863

is this game even alive

[vagrant fox]

Not really

Last I played in November it had about 150 players or something

[charred jewel]

Is this the first space marine game?

[sharp pollen]

a part from intro of Dawn of War

[charred jewel]

Dawn of war ruled

I’m so sad how shitty dawn of war 3 was

[sharp pollen]

i know (?)

[dapper gyro]

Just sharing the experience

[winter vessel]

I’ve continued to learn more and more about the Trench Crusade setting. Art style is very great

But then I came across the “Stigmatic Nuns”…and I thought the Sisters Repentia made me recoil in disgust

[dapper gyro]

Both SoB and SoS are satire on women.

[storm jungle]

As we know women don't exist IRL.

[spare osprey]

they're like birds

government drones

[winter vessel]

I mean the combat medic i like, it also reminds me of the Silent Hill Nurses except without the evil factor. But that's like one end of the Spectrum for the nuns

[spare osprey]

thas why i only hit on men

[storm jungle]

Lmfao

[storm jungle]

GYATT

[winter vessel]

I'm not sure if i want to post a picture of the other spectrum

[spare osprey]

you seen the recent prussian lass?

love the vibes

[winter vessel]

Fancy Hats,

[outer wave]

NO DONT DO IT SHES MARRIED TO GOD--

[winter vessel]

ah screw it, i'll do it in meme form

[spare osprey]

weird thing is there's a fully armored one too

found her

[winter vessel]

Least the knights are still around

[spare osprey]

i'm excited for the hebrew knights personally

them and their golems

and the Christian vampires

[winter vessel]

Still think its neat that a Jewish Faction still exists, considering they primarily resided in Jerusalem, Tiberias, Ramleh, Ashkelon, and Caesarea. And as far as we know in TC Lore, the Forces of Hell have taken up residence in that region, I thought they were going to be completely wiped out

[dapper gyro]

Is that a fucking chastity belt?

[spare osprey]

pretty much

[spare osprey]

same actually, but having them be sorta

guerrilla warfare knights

who are masters of the magic of creation

is an awesome route

also made me wanna make a Abrahamic alliance homebrew, like a lil crusading group who are united in the goal to retake Jerusalem

The crown (Judaism), the sword (Christianity), the shield (Islam)

[green loom]

Oh shit actually

I should make a hospitaller character for TC

Big robed doctor knight

[spare osprey]

i've been seeing fanart too

of peeps custom characters and warbands

it's awesome

[winter vessel]

nice one. mine is on a smaller scale, like a brigade's worth sourcing from the forces of New Antioch and members of the Crusader Knights, but have a very puritan stance. They are opposed to the usage of "holy monstrosities" through the consumption of flesh of these "meta-christs". Still a WIP.

[green loom]

I've been on a crusade kick recently this might be a great outlet for it ngl

[spare osprey]

ooo

[winter vessel]

emphasis on "made in God's image", no involvement of transhuman super soldiers, just the common man, well except for the Knights because of their rituals

[spare osprey]

i've had the idea of a group who go the opposite way

like they go crazy with those rituals cause they believe it's making them more "human"

the idea that the first humans in the garden were more than them, and so by making themselves more it is kinda

course correcting

like a part's missing and they're making themselves whole

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/hospitaler-sure-yeah-sure-yeah-ok-yeah-right-gif-16936293138096206526

I'll base the dude on this guy

[winter vessel]

I like it, an almost fantacism aspect

my homebrew's name is still hard, but i want to make use of the word "Gentiles" in it

[spare osprey]

niiiice

[winter vessel]

finger snap I GOT IT. the Gentiles Repentant.

they believe in the fact that the damnation of the world was caused by their own hands (all Non-Hebrews) through the events of the first crusade by the Knights Templar

in so doing, lead to the destruction and desecration of the Holy Lands, and know that God is very disappointed in them

they live with this shame. and believe that their only course of action is to see the forces of Hell removed upon the Earth, whether by death or the liberation of Jerusalem, will they find Absolution for their sins

also, they love their scripture reading a lot

[charred jewel]

You know. I was thinking about it

And I think the chuddiest Primarch was Konrad Curze

[storm jungle]

He literally kills a person for trying to kill themselves

so no shit

[sour hornet]

Real and true knowledge.

[sour hornet]

Unless it's an AGL, in which case it literally is "enemies grouped, fire that bitch 'til it's empty"

[opaque coyote]

Good guy Konrad Cruze

Stopping a young girl from killing herself

Just like Homelander, our hero!

[storm jungle]

LMAO

That example slipped my mind but yeah checks out

[opaque coyote]

Also this

Honestly Black Manta is underrated in the Hating Game

[storm jungle]

Manta is fucking peak but alas im too much of a DOOM stan

[opaque coyote]

He doesn't have powers, a trillion dollar company, or magic

He just has his love of the game

[storm jungle]

that scene in aquaman 2 sums it up

bro makes a weapon of destruction just from being a hater

[opaque coyote]

He got arrested by Aquaman, on his way to jail he got broken out by a terrorist organization who wanted to use him

He took over said organization from the inside

And in 3-4 issues was mobilizing the terrorist organization specifically to murder Aquaman

Black Manta also once willingly joined the Suicide Squad, on the condition that they help program his helmet so he sees everyone he's supposed to kill as Aquaman. He left once he realized they were too disorganized to live up to his Aquamurdering fantasy.

[storm jungle]

[celest dome]

Zoom

Like pettiest of them 4

[storm jungle]

He literally went back in time to ERASE A WOMAN OUT OF EXISTENCE for not wanting to date with him 💀

[arctic talon]

incel maximus

[outer wave]

I dunno whats going on, but couldnt this guy just idk

Date a version of her that would want to date him?

Im assuming this is MCU stuff

[arctic talon]

its DC

and its because he's a petty bitch

[outer wave]

Bruh

[arctic talon]

thats literally the explanation lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah what he said

he literally is an asshole

[arctic talon]

she rejects him so he erases her from existance lol

[storm jungle]

ngl

Emperor tier move

[arctic talon]

I don't even read DC stuff

and I know reverse flash is like

the ultimate fucking hater

[storm jungle]

HE LITERALLY RUINED AN ENTIRE UNIVERSE

JUST TO FUCK WITH BARRY

[vagrant fox]

Is that the guy who jerks off the other guy to make him look bad

[storm jungle]

yes

[humble shoal]

there is a certain series of reverse flash memes that make me chuckle

[celest dome]

Like Doom is a hater, but he is 'noble' in how he is.
Luthor is just a dumbass
Black Manta doesn't matter (not that Aquaman does either tbf)

[storm jungle]

the worst part is none of these memes are too far from the truth

[vagrant fox]

I like him, I aspire to be that kind of hater

[storm jungle]

I loved Luthor in the new superman trailer

[outer wave]

Petty ass motherfucker

[storm jungle]

hes having such a good day

THEN THE MOMENT

he sees superman fly by

hes fucking FURIOUS

[celest dome]

I'll go watch it

[storm jungle]

its like a 2s clip but it encapsulates him perfectly

[arctic talon]

this image

lol

[humble shoal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxHY1uS-UhY

[celest dome]

Good lord do I dislike those trailer with music blaring over everything

Top Gun looking ass trailer

[arctic talon]

wait are you fucking kidding me

Reverse flash and professor zoom

are different fucking characters

??????

THEY LOOK THE EXACT SAME

[storm jungle]

its basically the same dude

dont worry about it

[storm jungle]

fuck you

[celest dome]

They used to be the same

[storm jungle]

dont insult the superman theme

[celest dome]

Make me

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cola-cat-cola-explosion-luma-ai-gif-12441479630905084027

[arctic talon]

also I read some of the newer stuff for like the marvel gotg comics

what the fuck do you mean Mantis is just Vietnamese

[humble shoal]

you mean like the mandarin is actually a gorup of ancient chinese wisemen sealing demons

[celest dome]

I never noticed that there is a hole in the ball

[humble shoal]

and not some dude who likes jewelry too much

[arctic talon]

No like Mantis is straight up a Vietnamese woman with super powers in the comics

the weird antenna thing are like

just a thing she has

[storm jungle]

Asia Moment

[humble shoal]

oh yeah

[storm jungle]

its like us turks all having thick caterpillar mustaches

must be genetic

[humble shoal]

how about that batmans parents were killed by his evil twin brother

[storm jungle]

LMAO OWLMAN?

Loved that one, its so funny

[vagrant fox]

I thought it was caterpillar eyebrows

[storm jungle]

well same thing

https://tenor.com/view/turkish-man-gif-14733745593859528159

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-man-angry-out-of-car-meme-fast-am-talking-gif-17285849

[barren prawn]

average anatolian child

[storm jungle]

REAL

[barren prawn]

izmir not included tho knew some people from there thats where the actors come from

[sly ivy]

Incredible

[soft thunder]

Any of these other folders in SM2 databank thing references to something important?

[arctic talon]

Explorator fleet pacificus is new lore lol

The rest is existing lore stuff

[soft thunder]

aside from the general noctolith and pariah nexus folders. Those are pretty general

[arctic talon]

Related to campaign books/codex lore

Progonoid vaults is referring to the ones on Lua and Terra prolly

Firebreak systems are a “new” way of dealing with nids

[soft thunder]

nothing of significant note though? just sloppy bolter prn book series?

[arctic talon]

It’s codex/rulebook lore

So it isn’t bolter porn

[soft thunder]

ah ok, thought the firebreak systems could be a number of things

[arctic talon]

Yeah they show up in Crusade: Leviathan

Formidyre sector is also

More crusade leviathan stuff

Oh wait nvm I figured out what the explorator fleet thing is

It’s the explorator fleet that ran straight into the new tendril of leviathan lol

[soft thunder]

I know they use a form of firebreaks in the planet genocides to deter tyranid direction and have been doing it alot to protect segmentum solar.

[tough haven]

which is? trying to block them off with bait worlds?

[arctic talon]

What Rabs just said

[soft thunder]

ah so all necron/tyranid stuff, aside from the proginoid vaults

[arctic talon]

Yeah

The progonoid vaults are odd

Oh also the STC thing is new, no clue where that’s from

[tough haven]

just kill off everyone on planets in a direction so the nids dont go towards that direction?

[soft thunder]

this but instead of fire it's aliens, and instead of dirt paths it's dead worlds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebreak

[arctic talon]

Ursesh is tanith/sabbat stuff

Weird

[tough haven]

isnt that pointless cause they already know which way to go to segmentum solar bc of the astronomican

[arctic talon]

They’re aren’t beelining to it

They’re still in an all you can eat buffet

[tough haven]

and if they can travel from beyond the milky way, I bet they can go a while without food if they want to get there

[soft thunder]

the astronomicon isn't what attracted the tyranids

[tough haven]

well yeah, but we know its visible to them

[soft thunder]

we do?

[arctic talon]

It is visible yeah

But they’re not running towards terra in a straight line

[tough haven]

it would be incredibly odd if it isnt, its whole purpose is to be visible

and nids are a quite psychic species

[soft thunder]

not sure what the Urdesh Transmission are relevant to. Just Sabbat Worlds stuff as far as I can tell from glossing over the wikis

[arctic talon]

It has to be sabbat world stuff

The question is just why

Could be a teaser ig

[soft thunder]

probably inconsiquential stuff. Just a forge world or sabbat reference ig. Most are just easter eggs at most I'd guess. They're all redacted or high level info that Titus opened up. So most seem related to the subject matter in SM2 in tangential way, if anything I'd be more curious whether these files were a collection of Nozick's or not.

either way the snapshot lasts less than a second and seems like an inconsequential curiosity

[thick cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XAwkcN13Io

Dark Eldar during new years

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

if this was dark eldar i'd willingly join

[arctic talon]

Romance maharazi coward

Become his pet

[outer wave]

Thank you asian man from gachi muchi porn

[sour hornet]

I have a hard time finding a reason to let Marzipan live.

Being a xenos? Pardonable.

Murder? We all do that, right?

Copious torture and degeneracy? Nothing unusual here.

But he had the gall to sit on my chair in an ensouled and arrogant manner. I cannot reconcile non-lethal punishment for such a grave transgression.

[queen laurel]

well yeah even if you get on his quote un quote good side

His versions of appreciation isn't something you want to be in the receiving end of

[celest dome]

Ah the true crime of any fictional character, pissing the audience off

[storm jungle]

Ive banned way too many users being racist or sexist towards the cast of this game so can confirm

💀

they made many cardinal sins like uh

Being asian

[sacred ginkgo]

When the galaxy spanning empire engaged on all fronts in a barely stagnant war recruits from its whole population

[celest dome]

Being a woman

Being Black

[storm jungle]

the white man is OPPRESSED

[celest dome]

Being a woman in a position of authority
Being Black and a woman
Unabashedly ripping the player character off, and being a woman

[storm jungle]

We had one guy call the "saved by the sarge" option in the character creater "woke", I legit got no faith in humanity sometimes man

[celest dome]

right

[storm jungle]

that incident was crazy

[celest dome]

forgot that one

[storm jungle]

sddksfsdf

I tried to but oof

stupidity runs deep

[sacred ginkgo]

I remember that guy

[storm jungle]

SAME

Him going "im not joking im serious" was like

[queen laurel]

Of course the one that entered in a relationship with him has this

[storm jungle]

Literally the most dominant portion of the RT fandom does this

[queen laurel]

We only need

The version with the assassin girl i forgot her name it's been a while

Kibellah

[storm jungle]

The main narrative writer of the game also really likes him

She roleplayed Marz/Her Rogue Trader with a friend of mine

they even got commission art, its so funny

[queen laurel]

To be fair he is a good character i just don't want him near my assets

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/night-lord-warhammer-40k-space-marine-jamiroquai-virtual-insanity-gif-5727239661190188429

[queen laurel]

Yeah the guy will probably skin my people the moment i blink

[arctic talon]

Maharazi is honestly a great character

The downside is he’s a little too murderous but whatever lol I put up with the downsides of everyone else

[stark plover]

Night lords upon seeing an unassuming agri-world child

[raven stone]

“Finally! Someone to brutalise into being a superhuman criminal!”

[stark plover]

my favorite part about the NL is that they are a chaos traitor legion but they do this

[dusk patrol]

My favorite part is when they still end up riddled with corrupted, shattered, and mostly irrelevant

[storm jungle]

LOL

Also "legion", I mean I guess if you can count a pack of homeless space marines living in dumps a legion

[arctic talon]

I mean they got 5000 dudes and a daemon prince for the biggest group

That counts

Sort of

[celest dome]

The bible apparently say that One legion is 6,000 (Angel or what ever)
So it would be close

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-rookie-numbers-gif-20904132

[queen laurel]

oh hey perfect it's the weird cactus that worships chaos anyway here's a question

Are Beastmen incapable of escaping chaos influence and you know being their own thing

[arctic talon]

In 40k they’re not related to chaos

Aside from the god aligned ones

In AoS and whfb no

[queen laurel]

Damn so they are just born immediately hating everything

[dapper gyro]

Black Templar is more of a Legion than the Night Lord.

[arctic talon]

Yeah pretty much

[queen laurel]

welp that really seals their fate

[celest dome]

weird cactus
Thanks, not that there are many other Cactus, so not sure the 'weird' was necessary.
Not really for either AoS and BF

[storm jungle]

They basically also got no choice

literally 99% everyone treats them like a monster

theres a great story in AOS where a friendly beastmen falls to corruption from some atrocities at the hand of an Order faction

[celest dome]

I think there was a short about some mother who had a Gave but didn't abandon it, and it ate her face or something

[queen laurel]

well i don't know another cactus that whispers the glory of chaos

but damn

it's literally impossible for them to break away from chaos huh

[celest dome]

In theory it's not impossible, but like it's so unlikely

[storm jungle]

yeah this

[celest dome]

You wouln't see it normally

[storm jungle]

every warhammer setting is extremely hostile for a reason

[queen laurel]

OK so there is a chance that a gor just says fuck it and he can just fuck off to somewhere and live alone for the rest of his life without chaos influence and civilization bothering him?

[celest dome]

It would be like taking a Wolf from birth and trying to make it live as a dog

It's possible, but also a really bad idea

[storm jungle]

^^^^^^

[queen laurel]

sheesh Beastmen life is rough

[storm jungle]

As long as he isnt dumb enough to fall for it yes

[celest dome]

Yes, but no Gor would really react that way, they love pillaging, they hate human, they don't really farm...

[storm jungle]

yeah they are magically attuned to hating "order"

the lore says they see anything like proper civilization ala buildings/settlements and they go mad lol

[queen laurel]

so probably only an ungor would dare doing that right

but even an ungor would probably not even try

[celest dome]

An Ungor would be more in the disposition to do that since they're miss treated in their hordes

[queen laurel]

Imagine being so fucked that chaos immediately has you in a chokehold the moment you breathe in the world

[storm jungle]

Well yeah the first beastmen came from the world-gates collapsing.

[celest dome]

A Gor is like asking if a Chaos Warrior could turn from combat and start farming.
An Ungor is more like a Norscan Pillager, they often are coerced/forced into battles by their 'betters'

[misty vector]

What do beastmen think of regular animals like cows and horses though?

[queen laurel]

yeah and i don't even have to say anything for the minotaurs

[celest dome]

Food

Some they will see as useful work animals

[queen laurel]

yeah they like Razorgors

and they also bring in large chaos monsters like Jabberslythes and Slaughterbrutes

[storm jungle]

Yeah same with skaven

they see normal rats and go "Mmm food"

https://tenor.com/view/eat-up-dinnertime-lunch-time-gif-26758031

[celest dome]

they see normal rats Skaven and go "Mmm food"

[queen laurel]

yeah or you know weapons that can be genetically modified to explode the moment you throw it at someone

so the verdict is a Beastmen can try escaping their heretage but it's practically borderline impossible

[celest dome]

Yes

Like adopting a wild animal

[queen laurel]

Got you

[dusk patrol]

It’s mentioned that any families who try to keep them
and raise them eventually are turned on by them

And any who leave them in the woods to be found they’ll return to kill their family.

So club the baby goat/human hybrid to death kids. And no hanky panky on Geheimnisnacht!

[spring cairn]

ok dude

[storm jungle]

What did Be'lakor mean by this

[queen laurel]

what is bro yapping about

[spring cairn]

this man is talking to Khazrkak who eats his own shit for a living

[rocky gale]

Hmmm

[celest dome]

Not bad

[rocky gale]

Could prob kitbash it with bits from corpse grinder cult kit

[celest dome]

No size issues ?

[rocky gale]

Corpse grinders are 32mm same as chaos marines

The cultists are same as csm cultists but the grinders themselves are same as the marines

[queen laurel]

looks pretty nice i must admit

[gray umbra]

Who he whippin

[storm jungle]

his battle-brothers of course as per Codex Homoerotius demands

[arctic talon]

Traitor Imperial army soldiers and cultists

[rocky gale]

Think he’s for whipping solar auxilia

[raven stone]

“FORWARDS FOR THE WARMASTER, PATHETIC MORTALS!”
“OTHERWISE 20 LASHES!”
“UNLESS YOU ARE SLAANESH CULTISTS, IN WHICH CASE, YOU WON’T GET YOUR 20 LASHES IF YOU FAIL TO ADVANCE!”

[crisp heath]

Someone just told me that at some point in the night haunter book, curze slowly admitted to himself that he kinda just liked torturing people

Lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah hes a piece of shit

the author had to come out and say anyone thats even romantically into Curze is the kind of freak that falls for serial killers irl

[gray umbra]

Curze has a few disorders to put it lightly

Just a few

[outer wave]

A pinch of disorders

[gray umbra]

Also like towards the end of his life, he was like lucid like maybe 5 percent of the time

[potent orchid]

The night lords were a walking red flag for the imperium right from the get go

[gray umbra]

Emprah looked at this dude and was like, "heres command of 10000 supersoldiers"

[storm jungle]

to be fair no one said fascists were smart

[gray umbra]

Yeah a lot of the traitor primarchs were like

"How did we not see this coming oh my goooood"

[storm jungle]

its the same as IRL to some extent where awful regimes makes regiments from literal criminals

then get scared when they do atrocities

💀

[gray umbra]

I know u resent me and i let your friends and family die

But heres an army

[potent orchid]

immediately fills up the ranks with rapists and gangsters

[gray umbra]

Beats every 10th soldier to death

Implants spikes in the brains of everyone else

[storm jungle]

its one of my favorite parts of the HH

space marines fans try to explain this shit with half-assed excuses authors tried to make up to make it seem plausible but god its so funny

https://tenor.com/view/loki-what-could-possibly-wrong-lets-do-it-gif-22076856

[gray umbra]

Ah yes rationalizing 40k

My favorite

[potent orchid]

Most traitor legions had some kind of tragedy or ideology that eventually led them to be the horrors they've become

The night lords were rotten from day 1

[storm jungle]

Death Guard were just losers

[outer wave]

Emperor BTFO other "leaders" with facts and logic (Night Lords and not doing anything about them)

[storm jungle]

theres a really good post I saw yesterday asking like

"Were the night lords always bad-"

"Yes."

[gray umbra]

But i read the night lords trilogy

Talos was a good guy!

[storm jungle]

LMAO SHUT.

[potent orchid]

Talos: no but actually yes

[outer wave]

Talos just wanted to be a hero....

😔

[gray umbra]

frees slaves

causes a psychic blackout by murdering civilans

[outer wave]

He will stop slavery on the side of slavery

[storm jungle]

least sociopathic confederate

[crisp heath]

Guys, something i've been wondering, i've read three wh fantasy books (the ulrika series) and i got the feeling that the empire in fantasy is actually ruled in kind of an okay way? It's not the tyrannical super awful thing as in 40k.

Am i wrong

[storm jungle]

Yeah it is

its literally only grimdark in actual medieval terms

aka sometimes burning or torturing possibly innocent people on witchcraft

[potent orchid]

40k =/= fantasy

[storm jungle]

and sometimes making unfair laws

otherwise the Empire are ABSOLUTELY good guys

[outer wave]

^^

[arctic talon]

The empire are like

[outer wave]

They're more morally grey than the Imperium of 40k

[arctic talon]

Very progressive for their time period lol

[storm jungle]

most Imperial men-at-arms are literally honest people just wanting to protect their homeland, not invader nazi-romans trying to conquer the galaxy

[arctic talon]

Nah the empire in whfb is like

About as evil as other civilizations in that period irl

[storm jungle]

Yeah this

[arctic talon]

Which is to say meh

I mean

Yeah I guess they’re kind of evil

[storm jungle]

Yeah but that kinda comes with the warhammer flair

its just dirty medievalism

[arctic talon]

But societies morals were also shittier back then so whatever

[storm jungle]

^

[gray umbra]

Bretonnia:

[storm jungle]

LOL

[potent orchid]

Also the empire in fantasy does not encompass all of humanity as it does in 40k

[outer wave]

They're not good, and even Franz has to do some scummy shit to get his way, but it typically leads to something pretty mostly justified?

[arctic talon]

Bretonnia is just evil lmao p

[storm jungle]

And even then most human groups are still good guys too

like Tilea, Estalia etc

[arctic talon]

Just norscans

And chaos warriors

[storm jungle]

Also it helps that like Sigmar is legit a good guy

lol

[outer wave]

Still dont like that Norscans are just all comically evil vikings

But I get it

[storm jungle]

Some are

the core country ones are more corrupted due to being indoctrinated at a young age by their elders to worship chaos as the only gigachad gods in existence, the norscans more closer to empire borders are more "civil" and actively trade with imperial settlers among other things

[outer wave]

I see

[gray umbra]

I like the whole resource shortage shaping their raiding culture

[storm jungle]

on the surface tho ye they are all comically evil

[crisp heath]

I really am not sure what to think about bretonnia at all. I know their tech sucks and the society is even more feudal, but the ruling class (knights) actually care to protect their lessers, dont they

[arctic talon]

The farther south you get the less evil they get

[arctic talon]

The same way irl knights did

[storm jungle]

They literlaly dont wanna do any agriculture unlike actual vikings which is funny

[storm jungle]

No they dont LMAO

[potent orchid]

Where is my 40k version of Gotrek and Felix GW, where is it?

[arctic talon]

Which is to say

Not really lmao

[outer wave]

I dont think the knights actively care about the peasants at all in any way

[arctic talon]

GW seems to really like

[spring cairn]

iirc bretonnia used to be alright but thenthey hit it with a grimderp ray

[crisp heath]

Wtf i hate bretonnia now

[arctic talon]

The Knights but evil

[storm jungle]

Bretonnia is comically evil for the sake of black comedy, they actively oppress the peasantry and dont give a shit about them to absurd degrees.

[arctic talon]

No

[storm jungle]

Like

realistically speaking

[arctic talon]

They were always comedically evil

[storm jungle]

theres no way abusing your peasantry would make oyu get away with this in the long run

[arctic talon]

Since their first codex

[storm jungle]

but its warhammer so they manage

[vagrant fox]

Well they are french

[arctic talon]

💀

[storm jungle]

NOT WRONG

[potent orchid]

I hate bretonnia not because they're evil but because they're french

[spring cairn]

i saw somewhere it used to be to a lesser extent

[arctic talon]

The British in whfb are like

A bunch of cavemen

I’m not even joking

[storm jungle]

yeah Albion

its a scary swampland

[storm jungle]

They were always awful

the modern lore just amped it up

before the return of WHF they didnt even allow women to have any proper positions of power

[crisp heath]

Just like irl

[storm jungle]

but basically yeah compared to the Imperium the Empire of Man are absolute saints

Faith, Steelballs and Gunpowder 🙏

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer-fantasy-total-war-warhammer-handgunners-gif-16598419

get em lads

[outer wave]

Heh balls

Heheh

[storm jungle]

🏐🏐

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/totalwar-empire-steamtank-tank-warhammer-gif-19292355

[potent orchid]

Fr
The empire in fantasy is known for its engineers pushing technology forward. In 40k they be like "new tech is HERESYYYYY"

[storm jungle]

Yeah its great, the Empire does have that angle to a degree but its more like

"We are literal medieval folk we dont fucking know how this shit works"

they are still pretty inventive, they got COLLEGES

👩‍🎓

[spring cairn]

before the old world stuff they had like 10 steam tanks and they couldn't make more because they forgor

[storm jungle]

Yeah the reason was its too costly and lost tech

also im sure it was 8 💀

[spring cairn]

i'm glad they got rid of that

[storm jungle]

but yeah they arent against invention its just a lack of push for it, so even "new" stuff is usually mid

[queen laurel]

Yeah a steam tank is great but they are usually victimized by giant demons that can you know hurl said tanks

[outer wave]

"I went to college!"

• Empire Engineer before getting killed by an Imperial Guardsman

[storm jungle]

• Least violent frathouse conflict

[arctic talon]

They didn’t

[gray umbra]

Hellstorm rocket battery be like

[arctic talon]

Steam tanks are still limited

[storm jungle]

Yeah its a fair trade

compared to uh

INFINITE ROCKET STORMS

[arctic talon]

Which imo is still sort of stupid

But whatever

[storm jungle]

yeah because no other tech they got is ever said to be limited lol

[queen laurel]

Okay so you can make them but they are limited

[arctic talon]

No

[queen laurel]

But in age of sigmar they are like you know easy to produce

[arctic talon]

They’re not reproducible

They literally forgor how

And are trying to find out again

It’s always been such a weird piece of lore

[queen laurel]

In old world?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[queen laurel]

Ok

[arctic talon]

Let me grab the

[vagrant fox]

Who needs technology and knowledge when the average Norscan is built like a brick shithouse, simply get hench

[gray umbra]

The guy forget to document it and got eaten

[spring cairn]

p sure now they're not lost tech

[arctic talon]

Old world is pre modern whfb

They can maintain and repair them properly

Unlike pre endtimes whfb

[rose thorn]

New gold demon rules

[arctic talon]

Idfk how steam tanks were the one place the empire regressed in

[rose thorn]

I hope they paid the original artists for using their models for marketing

[spring cairn]

isn't old world like not even 100 years ago

[potent orchid]

The empire doesn't need tanks when it can use the entirety of kislev as a meat shield

[queen laurel]

But in whfb where total war is set they can be made yes

[arctic talon]

300 years give or take

[rose thorn]

Ie this

[arctic talon]

No

Steam tanks being spammable in total war is so it’s not lame as shit

Lol

[spring cairn]

but you field the exact same armies so might aswell be 10 years ago

[arctic talon]

More categories is neat

[queen laurel]

Okay so even during the you know basic fantasy the one that got end times

You can't make them anymore?

[arctic talon]

You can’t take as much gunpowder

[spring cairn]

oh wow

[arctic talon]

But yeah generally

[spring cairn]

this sells it

[rose thorn]

Yee, I just hope the people who made the models on the top got compensated

[arctic talon]

Idk what you want me to say lol

[rose thorn]

I pray for an AOS steam tank model

[crisp heath]

cute sticker.

[queen laurel]

Okay so they can't be made anymore in the first warhammer fantasy and even in the second one

[spring cairn]

nothing, since i'm sure you agree it's dumb

[queen laurel]

What the f*** is the point

[rose thorn]

We have so much art of AOS steam tanks

[arctic talon]

Yeah I agree it’s dumb lol

[rose thorn]

But no model

[arctic talon]

They’re makeable in AoS

I just don’t get steam tank lore in whfb lol

So I choose to ignore it

[queen laurel]

Which makes sense considering that their industry is a lot more powerful and

[gray umbra]

They forgot the lost long lore of

[queen laurel]

Of course more resources

[gray umbra]

Engine

[spring cairn]

anyway, as far as i'm concerned now that it's just the old world, total war warhammer is cannon

[queen laurel]

But seriously

[spring cairn]

therefore, 500 steam tanks

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-the-orville-gif-7658479820042125764

[arctic talon]

Lol

[rose thorn]

So fucking fire

[queen laurel]

Oh man Cogforts are great

[rose thorn]

Fr

Rumor is they will come with the new dwarf models

[gray umbra]

They gave them spider legs lol

[arctic talon]

They’re longer + taller as well

[crisp heath]

damn

[queen laurel]

Okay so just a quick question does that mean that spoiler by the way

That in that gotrek and felix rat slayer book that tank that was driven into the ditch was a priceless loss

[arctic talon]

It got repaired

So uh yes but actually no

[queen laurel]

Oh thank goodness

But if it suffered more damage

Man

[rose thorn]

Wait there’s no lore explanations for building steam tanks in old world?

[queen laurel]

No apparently it's lost knowledge

They can't build steam tanks but they can maintain them and repair them

So there's only a limited number of them

[rose thorn]

huh???

[dusk patrol]

I’m almost positive they build them

[queen laurel]

Yeah apparently in whfb and old world

[arctic talon]

They were all built in the past

[queen laurel]

Yeah they are pass relics

[arctic talon]

Unless they changed it like

In the end times

[rose thorn]

The lost knowledge thing seems really silly, it makes sense in 40k

[queen laurel]

Okay hold on what about the mechanical horses the fancy empire engineers ride

[dusk patrol]

I distinctly remember them being a new design

[queen laurel]

Are those buildable

[dusk patrol]

I might be mixing things up

[rose thorn]

Oh yeha they took the steam tank off the AOS cities page

[arctic talon]

"All of the existing tanks in the service of the Empire were designed by the famed genius Tilean inventor Leonardo da Miragliano in the early 21st century IC.[1a] The Steam Tanks are the most confounding puzzle known to the Imperial Engineers School, for after the inventor's death, the secrets of their construction were lost with him and the Empire's engineers have so far been unable to successfully construct any new steam tanks. Only eight steam tanks remain in the early 26th century IC, all the others having been destroyed during testing or in battle"

[storm jungle]

Leonardo Notvinci

my beloved

[rose thorn]

FUCKING 8?!

GW NEVER SAY NUMBERS

[queen laurel]

Wait so the creator didn't even leave f****** blueprints!?

[arctic talon]

that only started in 5e after people kept making fun of them

[spring cairn]

Imperial Engineers trying to figure out how to reverse engineer a steam engine on wheels with armor plates

[arctic talon]

lol

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-hummer-nail-gif-14595785

[arctic talon]

Imperial Engineers trying to figure out how to make a fucking mechanical horse

[plush mason]

reminds me of the machines from the edgeworld books i read as a kid lol

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-lateralus-parabol-third-eye-tool-gif-16499016

[spring cairn]

meanwhile they make a fucking mecha horse

but no, steam engine too advanced

[arctic talon]

Okay Okay okay

so turns out

Nuln made ONE prototype

[dusk patrol]

Well the weird thing is, they have really good dwarves engineers in Nuln

[arctic talon]

so that means they figured out how to make them again but badly

[queen laurel]

WAIT THEY CAN BUILD MECHANICAL HORSES BUT NOT FUCKING TANKS!?

[arctic talon]

yeah ngl steam tank lore is ????

[spring cairn]

they were afraid of the franz division

[queen laurel]

dude

[spring cairn]

gw had to nerf the empire

with bullshit

[queen laurel]

How the fuck does that make sense

[storm jungle]

Gotta give those braindead cavemen from the north a chance i guess

[dusk patrol]

They are the Franzer Elite, born to compete, never retreat!

[rose thorn]

I forgot was the orchestra robots in AOS or old world

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-tank-charge-warhammer-warhammer-fantasy-steam-gif-16598201

[plush mason]

isnt there only like 12 of them left?

[dusk patrol]

Gunpowder and basic firing lines too OP

[spring cairn]

it's not like they weren't already rushing headlong into gunfire with wooden shields

[crisp heath]

HELL YEAAAA MUTHAFUKA!!!!

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/norsca-crypto-politics-tarriff-gif-13931951081162511779

[dusk patrol]

The Empire getting its ass kicked for like 3,000 years hard before suddenly they figure out guns

[storm jungle]

A faction so dumb they need literal plot armor to win the setting

[queen laurel]

What you're telling me is they can build the one on the left

But not the one on the right

[storm jungle]

LEGIT

[queen laurel]

How the f*** can they build mechanical ponies but not f****** tanks

[vagrant fox]

Makes sense to me

[queen laurel]

Seriously gw

[plush mason]

wait the steampunk ponies are canon?

[spring cairn]

yes

[arctic talon]

deus ex skaven

[dusk patrol]

Does this really surprise you?

[plush mason]

i thought CA just pulled them out of there asses and GW was like, lmao go for it

[rose thorn]

Everyone knows clock work is so much easier then steam technology

[dusk patrol]

Fantasy has

Basically everything

[rose thorn]

(/j)

[storm jungle]

Dishonored 2 Moment

[plush mason]

why cant they make more steam tanks?

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

Plot

[queen laurel]

How the f*** is empire so f****** backwards that they have the mechanized horse golems but not

[storm jungle]

I mean

Lost tech

[queen laurel]

A basic steam engine tank

[dusk patrol]

They were close to being able to maybe make more

[crystal forum]

this is why i dont like fantasy

[dusk patrol]

Nuln was on the edge of one

[arctic talon]

And then the world blew up

[queen laurel]

Man steam tank lore Is weird

[rose thorn]

Yeah guy, remember when the empireus steamaticus banned all new technology

[storm jungle]

The writers add what they think is cool before thinking on the setting/logical rammifications of it and I cant blame them id do the same.

[spring cairn]

it's ok it's dead, you can make up your own canon to fix the bs

[arctic talon]

Lol

[plush mason]

ah the classic "lost the blueprint a few centuries ago and gg"

[storm jungle]

Yeah I ate it

sorry guys

[queen laurel]

It's just like why can you build robot horses but you can't build a steam tank you know something that is steam powered

[storm jungle]

BECAUSE ITS COOL

SHUT UP NERD

[vagrant fox]

Don't think too hard about it, it's GW lore

[crisp heath]

so cool. i had no idea those things existed.

[queen laurel]

HOW ABOUT I CRUNCH YOUR SPINE YOU WEAKLING

[dusk patrol]

It’s not like the clockwork horse was easy either

[plush mason]

the TWWH games lets you field over 20 steams tanks so

[vagrant fox]

Who needs steam tanks anyway, massed artillery is way cooler

[plush mason]

i dont think GW cares to much

[arctic talon]

You can run more steam tanks then steam tanks exist on the tabletop

Lol

[dusk patrol]

It also lets me teabag Archaon with Gelts Gilded Balls so

[plush mason]

hellstorm rocket batteries my beloved

[spring cairn]

it's canon

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/helstorm-rocket-battery-warhammer-total-war-the-empire-artillery-total-war-warhammer-gif-17202347

[spring cairn]

if gw wanted it not to be the case, they had to continue fantasy

[dusk patrol]

GW had to retcon my superior ending

Where Gelt rules all

[rose thorn]

Everyone knows the best automaton in Warhammer is the avatar of khaine

[queen laurel]

This looks like i can kill someone with it by beating them to death with this

[arctic talon]

Such is the power of gelt

[rose thorn]

It’s made of the iron in blood

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/бальтазар-warhammer-gif-23779786

[storm jungle]

has anyone seen how thicc the back of that model's ass is

[plush mason]

Elsbith or whatever her name is just casually making the empire's best arty even better by making them summon purple suns on impact will never not be great to me

[dusk patrol]

There’s a reason GW went “hey what if the entire Sigmar army looked like Gelt?” And it worked

[spring cairn]

gelt is busy colo-i mean protecting not china

he was too strong for vlad

[dusk patrol]

GENTLEMEN, WELCOME, TO SYLVANIA!

[spring cairn]

they had to intervene

[arctic talon]

Cathay is just an old word for China

[queen laurel]

It was so funny teleporting to his position and just kicking his a** because i got hired to do so

[arctic talon]

You can just call it fucking China lmao

[queen laurel]

Golgfag moments right there

[arctic talon]

The same way the empire is Germany

Or Bretonnia is France

[plush mason]

ngl i still think his name should have just be Golg

[spring cairn]

i mean, generally yes but they also encompass more than 1 country

[gray umbra]

I always mispronounce his name 🙂

[plush mason]

single syllable names just fit the ogres better imo

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/yung-benji-benji-russian-russia-slav-gif-21196150

Meanwhile Kislev

[arctic talon]

I’m surprised they used his original name for total war

[storm jungle]

I had friends who thought he wouldnt get released due to his name

[dusk patrol]

I prefer to shorten his name

[spring cairn]

Kislev where the bears ride bears

[dusk patrol]

By removing some letters

[spring cairn]

into battle of course

[dusk patrol]

[plush mason]

i just call him Golg

[dusk patrol]

Interesting approach

[arctic talon]

And not golgbag lol

[dusk patrol]

Because you see I prefer to do the oppos-

[tough haven]

thats a lot of blood

[spring cairn]

also in fantasy, it seems like the snow is 100% protein or some shit

everyone who lives near it is buff af

[plush mason]

nah because again single syllable names are better imo