40k-lore-chat

[rocky gale]

I'd say yea it still works

[broken sundial]

Ffff yeah

[storm jungle]

again as long as the cabling has something to conduct to and its pointy it will work

just make sure not the entire sword is broken

[celest dome]

Work but the blade start heating up, or shorting sparks every so often maybe ? To make it more impactful

[rocky gale]

https://i.namu.wiki/i/ienS1-nksEOyPzFz8Gc_KpC8QYHz23kIOOiiKp_7Pr4i1ZQxZjIlK23XICfnxDdh-g4pw7DoeeYl9etbSEVc5w.gif

[broken sundial]

Actually that last statement brings another question. How sharp does a power sword need to be actually if the disruption field is literally breaking things down on a cellular level?

[sharp pollen]

but what if... the sword is not shorter, but longer...

https://tenor.com/view/big-sword-skyrim-gif-18982450

[storm jungle]

Bruh moment

💀

[storm jungle]

The distruption field essentially makes the strike of the weapon impactful or just sharper, so it just depends really

as long as its pointy it will do the job

[storm jungle]

this gif sums it up

[sharp pollen]

hobbits in 40k

rad

[storm jungle]

Ratlings...

[sharp pollen]

oh wait its just Rogue Trader then

a colorful bunch going somewhere

[celest dome]

Warhammer Fantasy has it's own LotR group, 40k doesn't

[dusk patrol]

They're not all made equal so it varies wildly.

There's some relic weapons, and often powerful daemon weapons or stuff like that, which notably can or do break other power swords, even well crafted ones.

[queen laurel]

a good powersword is cool and all but a magical axe blessed by a god of war and blood will destroy that thing

[dusk patrol]

This shit is actually wild in practice too.

[dusk patrol]

Yeah some of them definitely can, or there might be issues.

In the same way theres chain weapons which can clash with power weapons and not take much damage if they're made well enough.

[queen laurel]

there is always that one maniac that carries something like spine grinder which is a power chain weapon designed to do nothing else but tear someone apart

[shadow plover]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/vjddepvh/warhammer-miniature-of-the-year-2024-who-won/

People really voted the Nemesis Claw upgrade sprue as the best 40k miniature

I like it but

[barren prawn]

i just learned that space wolves "drink" their geneseeds

[queen laurel]

Ushoran with the deserved aos win

[shadow plover]

Quite so

[rocky gale]

[queen laurel]

i am not surprised with this guy being 2nd place though

And surprisingly i was not expecting her to make it that far

[rocky gale]

My picks got top 5 in all three

My 3 picks

[storm jungle]

I voted Coteaz

[rocky gale]

You betrayed Aveline

For the meme

[storm jungle]

I did it as a troll move mostly

[shadow plover]

Now you will be remembered as a Coteaz enjoyer

[celest dome]

Goremane isn't in the top 3, rigged I say

[storm jungle]

but also Ushoran winning is absolutely deserved, its such a fantastic mini

the Lion winning last year was some pure bullshit

Also Nemesis Claw, REALLY

😭

[shadow plover]

I voted Ushoran, Asmodai and the mutated genestealer unit

[dusk patrol]

Its a good set smh

[storm jungle]

Mine was Ushoran, Coteaz and Arvus

[shadow plover]

it is but it's not really the best of the year material

[storm jungle]

My hate for night lords runs deep

[dusk patrol]

I voted for the Ratlings but

[shadow plover]

it's an existing kit with an upgrade sprue

[storm jungle]

Yeah this

like they are good models

its just kind of not really worth the top spot

[dusk patrol]

I know and I agreed but, hey if the shoe fits.

[storm jungle]

ironically shit like the sister and asmodai are better

[shadow plover]

I think it kinda just screams how the public need a dedicated NL kit

[storm jungle]

also these watchers in the dark

so short

[shadow plover]

the inner circle is a baller kit too

[dusk patrol]

If it leads to more NL sets

[storm jungle]

they are definitely innering some circles alright

[shadow plover]

that doesn't mean anything!

[dusk patrol]

I was expecting the terminators or them to be on there.

[storm jungle]

I know but meme

also yeah termies got shafted, rip

[shadow plover]

the termies were last year no?

[storm jungle]

To be fair

[dusk patrol]

The Dark Angel ones

[storm jungle]

they had competition

[shadow plover]

those too

[storm jungle]

Sausage

[shadow plover]

these guys in the front row released last year I'm quite sure

[dusk patrol]

Yeah they were

They also did fewer spots last year.

So it was Farsight, Angron, Lion.

[gray umbra]

Halfling re-enactment of real life recon units

[storm jungle]

Mmmm chicken

[rose thorn]

[storm jungle]

my favorite dark souls character

[queen laurel]

truly a FEC W

[queen laurel]

that guy's just me every time i queue up for rank in Marvel Rivals

[gray umbra]

Me waking up at 6 30 for work

[keen nova]

Hey so like, are the T'au really tactical geniuses or is the Guard just (censored word for stoopid)?

[raven stone]

Depends on writer.

Literally.

[keen nova]

Yeah, that makes sense

I used to think the Taros campaign showed how much of a difference between the two there was but everyone I know tells me that it's just (silly) when you think about it.

I mean, what were they supposed to do? I do feel like (Assuming competence) mortars and even Anti material rifles would really make a difference

[storm jungle]

Tau incredibly suffer from largely being written stupid or naive. Realistically speaking half their fights with the Imperium would be steamrolls from the amount of drones and other shit they'd spam them with considering the current tech they now possess, but the running theme with the faction is them again being naive or just not knowing how the galaxy works to some extent lol

The Taros campaign is an absolutely excellent showcase of how the Tau fight without any plot boundaries stopping them from being naive and just losing

[keen nova]

Outside of the first damocles gulf crusade they seem pretty solid to me.

[storm jungle]

Yeah the Damocles one is them basically not knowing any better

they barely had a proper army and not even proper warships, it was their First™️ forray on the big boys table

[keen nova]

And I can recognize that on both sides. Like, the ethereal just out in the open during the Gulf crusade? Just asking to be sniped. The guard on taros having no critical thinking skills

[humble shoal]

Did the tau find out about the necrons yet?

[queen laurel]

yes

[keen nova]

Dark crusade

[humble shoal]

[storm jungle]

I mean they do have tactical thinking skills

the battlefield of Taros was just a niche one

the guard forces were overstretched and not just properly made to deal with the tau there especially considering the tech difference

they literally viet cong'd them with railguns

[humble shoal]

Should have just

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-exterminatus-explosion-nuke-40k-gif-22693290

[storm jungle]

Yeet

[humble shoal]

Virus bombs dont destroy mines do they

[storm jungle]

It permanently fucks up the life of the planet

and depending on the virus probably melts most of it

[humble shoal]

Dang guess we gotta just nuke the tau the old fashioned way

[raven stone]

Still disappointed at no human Auxiliary units

Given how the entire faction was designed to appeal to Star Trek/Star Wars mixed race sci fi types

(Alongside the Gundam ones but there I would say GW did make it work)

And no I don’t care if it is just a Guard unit clone

Even Chaos and (to a certain extent nowadays) GSC have one.

[storm jungle]

They do exist its just GW doesnt want to push it forward

its why its just

Battlesuits
Battlesuits
Battlesuits
Battlesuits
Battlesuits

I do hope they at least do Gue'vesa one day

[keen nova]

Honestly should have just targeted the water plants from orbit and then waited them out.

[humble shoal]

Too intelligent for the average imperial commander

[storm jungle]

^

[keen nova]

Tbf, the Tau aesthetic is the best part, it's also their main selling point in asia

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats what im saying

the asian market is the reason why they got so many robot suits

[queen laurel]

they need a megazord fr fr

[humble shoal]

Fr fr

[keen nova]

I could understand them falling for it the first few times but they just keep insisting on going through it anyway which doesn't make any sense.

[storm jungle]

I mean it does.

The Imperium is proud

they wanna defeat the enemy head on

also they gathered an entire army for the engagement

and they need the population centers under safety, its the entire reason they are here, to re-secure them

[raven stone]

For any/all battles where it looks like one side is gimped into stupidity, remember this: all Imperial Armour lore/Horus Heresy lore battles have a tendency to be based upon actual historical battles.

[keen nova]

Yeah this is what I mean, they aren't too proud in books were they are meant to be tactical and are when it's to drive themselves into a corner.

They've also shown no shortage of distatse for xenos collaboratiors before. I honestly just think they played to the T'aus strengths for marketing reasons

[rose thorn]

Gonna be real most of the non AOS models sucked

This year

[storm jungle]

I mean you say "books", this is 40k. Its the entire game of "it depends."

Tauros was a niche case where there was Considering the campaign's priority was the securing of crucial points like cities, the spaceport and the planetary capital among other stuff. The Imperium in campaigns always suffers bad leadership, generals or anything usually regarding the people in actual positions of power like real old time militarities (hell even now really).

They didnt really play into the tau's strenghts for marketing, the Imperium just underestimated them after steamrolling the planet's defenses at first glance.

[raven stone]

The official map of the Istvaan Dropsite Massacre is just a clone of Stalingrad.
Except the point of focus is on the West instead of the East.

It won’t surprise me if Tauros Campaign is based on battle of Cannae given the brief comment about Imperium wanting to fight “head on” and Tau just going “Trolololo nope”

[rose thorn]

Oh my god did zero xenos models release this year?

[storm jungle]

Some did

[shadow plover]

bazillion Eldar models

so like 6 at least

[storm jungle]

LOL

[rose thorn]

Those didn’t release tho

They were revealed

[storm jungle]

hey

he corrected himself

wait

they arent on the shop yet?

[rose thorn]

No

[storm jungle]

Damn GW schedule is CRAZY

[rose thorn]

They come after the krieg drop

Which is next year

[queen laurel]

yeah in 40k you could be the most prepared army and general in the universe and all it would take for you to lose momentum is a horde of green angry muscular mushrooms

[raven stone]

I will be honest, from a conversion and lore point of view I am slightly disappointed at how Eldar armour is explicitly called out to be incompatible with humans due to psychic connections.

Would be cool for Rogue Trader/Radical Ordo Xenos conversions.

[shadow plover]

well the "like 6 at least" did reffer to the scorpions

[rose thorn]

Ohhh

My bad

I forgot they existed

[storm jungle]

Well yeah its magic supertech, why would it be primitive enough to be usable by humans, its the same with most necron tech minus a few weapons.

its also like not a good idea

the moment someone sees you wearing wraithbone they'll get sus or shoot you lmao

[raven stone]

Ok fair enough 🤣

[keen nova]

Wait, so it was the First engagement since damocles? That would make alot of sense if that was the case.

[rose thorn]

Wait did nids release this year or last year

[storm jungle]

No, its literally just the Imperium is too vast to really have a specific general view of the tau.

Again these people are literally CONSTANTLY told their enemy is dumb and stupid and weak

no matter who they are fighting against

the Uplifting Primer outright lies to guardsman lol

[raven stone]

Although also to be fair

Any given regiment could be facing T’au “for the first time”

[queen laurel]

hey at least my rogue trader can run these he just has to account for his fingers

[raven stone]

Given how fuckhueg the Imeprium is

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah

thats what im saying essentially

[queen laurel]

or his entire upper body

[keen nova]

I wouldn't count that for this one, none of these were no name regiments. I'd probably say it has something to do with the brimlock dragons getting destory in orbit, preventing them from sharing their experience with the tau

[raven stone]

You could have heard of the T’au but never actually faced them in battle.
Even a competent general (or, in fact, competent IG generals are AT RISK) of thinking “those asshats must be exaggerating about T’au firepower”

Only to learn the VERY hard way that, no, the reports were NOT exaggerating.

That Railgun really can slice a Leman Russ MBT in half when you can’t even bloody see it.

[storm jungle]

I entirely would, its not about being "no name", some regiments no matter how popular sometimes have first engagements regarding even big xenos factions, Tallarn and Elysians were literally entirely dragged here for desert combat and droptroop deployments, the entire war-muster had like 1 regiment that had went against the tau mixed in there.

Basically dont base your entire perception of the guard from singular campaigns. A faction will sometimes simply get the shaft, its how 40k works, some make sense some dont, in Taros its perfectly explainable as its Imperial Armor/Forgeworld, the writers behind those put a ton of meticilous effort into explaining the wars in those rule books lore sections.

the Taros campaign was also extremely influenced by the war in the middle east.

an entire modern army went in there and got beaten by a less equipped enemy, its really not that weird.

[raven stone]

wait please don’t tell me they made Tallarn/Elysians the Taliban equivalent and Tau the US forces lol

[storm jungle]

You can dump millions into an armored personnel career and some kid with a phone-ringed IED will destroy it and make it useless with 10 dollar gear.

in this case tho said locals got railguns and stealth tech

[storm jungle]

LMAO nah not that much, its mostly the entire "desert combat" vibe, it was told in a really old white dwarf as "we were inspired by the conflicts at the time overseas."

aka the Iraq War etc

[raven stone]

Ah ok

[keen nova]

I belive that author did try to "make them operate like the U.S." But that's hearsay so don't take my word for it

[storm jungle]

Thats for the Tau

tho they are largely based on "modern NATO"

[queen laurel]

yeah most of their tactics is literally surgical and trying their best dismantle you from far away as possible

[storm jungle]

theres a reason guerilla warfare almost always wins

[humble shoal]

Send in the dragoons, they can beat the tau with their aristocratic minds

[storm jungle]

wrong dragoons

[queen laurel]

i do still love the fact that orks literally just overwhelm every type of supernatural magical advanced technological bullshit the warhammer universe has

[storm jungle]

Yeah orks work on the snowball effect

[keen nova]

Noted, I don't want to Flanderize them but I do want to know what you could even do about it lol. Thats why I suggested anti-mat, mortars and auspex.

[storm jungle]

the more they fight the more dangerous they will get

[humble shoal]

And by aristocratic minds I mean how the rich dealt with colonial uprisings before the fall of the british empire.

[storm jungle]

Alternatives always exist just remember working for the Imperium always means something will get infront of you or ruin your plan

[keen nova]

I can't afford the books so I can't confrim lol. Had to buddies argue about that once.

[humble shoal]

Hehe vraks

[queen laurel]

yeah if they can keep their momentum going they can go from a snowball to an avalanche

[humble shoal]

And then at a large enough population you get the primorks

[keen nova]

Well we only hear about the ones that Succeed. History is full of failed guerrillas.

[humble shoal]

Guerillas also only work if the opposing force cares about keeping the citizens alive

[raven stone]

Gazhgkull is rumoured to might be one IIRC, or at least we don’t have confirmation yet.

[storm jungle]

That goes for any war essentially, against modern armies guerilla tactics just hurt because you cant fight an enemy you cant see

[queen laurel]

a primork is basically at the level of the beast

[keen nova]

Brimlock? They were the most experience against the T'au and by that I mean they loss every engagement lol

[storm jungle]

its what made vietnam so terrible because U.S troops just opened up on villages that sometimes just had nothing to do with the "enemy"

[queen laurel]

he's not there yet but he's getting there

[storm jungle]

its a messy affair

[raven stone]

No and yes? It’s more a style of warfare, but yes, defender caring about civvy makes it hit harder.

[storm jungle]

^

in 40k thats not a problem

[humble shoal]

Yeah it was a joke... I think the dragoons get bodied in every engagement.

[storm jungle]

because the imperium are straight up monsters lol

the only part of guerilla that hurts is hitting and running for them

especially if its like not a massive fighting force and with sci-fi tech involved

[keen nova]

Marines malevolent:

[storm jungle]

They do that

and they get no support

[humble shoal]

Also there was also some not small proxy war going on in laos and cambodia

[outer wave]

Not to mention that you can't have an army take down a village or town because you had a few pull an attack while you weren't looking

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much, it becomes an absolute mess.

its why America has lost almost every major conflict overseas and fucked off back home kek

[keen nova]

Like Elysians but less cool. (I like both of them)

I would be wary of the Viet cong example though, that war ended with them Signing a Treaty that was disfavorable to them to say the least. It's why they had to wait until the U.S. fully pulled out to re-enguage the south.

Hmm, While I'm on the T'au, what's yall's favorite sept? It's gotta be sa'cea for me.

[storm jungle]

T'au

because tan/white is too good

cannot believe Vior'la took the posterboy states 💀

[keen nova]

The ultramarines did it to the crimson fist, the black templars did it to the imperial fists...

[storm jungle]

the cycle of violence continues

[raven stone]

Midnight at me spot.
Happy New Year lore chat.
May [insert faction deity/leadership] bless you for 2025.

[humble shoal]

same with the most recent fuckup

[humble shoal]

Cant wait for the mortifactors to do it for the ultra marines

Cannibal poster boys baby

[dusk patrol]

Apparently the Total Warhammer 40k game is still ago by CA.

[crystal forum]

elysians should have just been a special cadian unit instead of a whole regiment that only has 1 gimmick

[dusk patrol]

Summary of the alleged rumours above;

• has heard that no Warhammer games were affected by the restructuring / shuffling that took place at Creative Assembly at this time, but that both the Warhammer and Star Wars teams were reinforced.

• has heard (from a trusted source) that Friends and Family testing has recently taken place, and is targeting June 2025 for an official announcement.

• soft launch / open testing in February 2026, with full release in Winter 2026

• has heard that campaign map will be both galaxy (system) and ground; unclear if space battles will be available at launch, but most likely.

• new mechanics being introduced; dogfighting (for aircraft), framework for walkers. Dogfighting originally designed for cancelled WW1 Total War.

• factions; Space Marines, Chaos Space Marines, Orks, Eldar, with sub-factions available.

[humble shoal]

We drop, and then because we have no ground support we die.

[crystal forum]

just drop more units until the enemy surrenders smh

[storm jungle]

Yeah its a money-bank ready to be taken so not surprised nothing regarding its plans got affected during the shuffling.

[dusk patrol]

Curious if Eldar includes Drukhari or would just be CWE to start but I guess we’ll see

[storm jungle]

Im gonna assume CWE

Dark Eldar are prime DLC material

that applies to everyone tho obvs

[shadow plover]

Exciting if true

[raven stone]

I hope Inquisitors and/or Rogue Tarders get to lead some of the Imperial factions.

[storm jungle]

It definitely is

i had a tester friend in TW leak shit to me a year or two ago

the tales from the studio are so funny

[storm jungle]

Imperial Agents....

[dusk patrol]

I mean that would hardly be the strangest faction for them to eventually add

And they could do it more fleshed out

[storm jungle]

Awful 💀

but as long as i get a hot imperial female Inquisitor lord i will buy the DLC

💰

[dusk patrol]

I kinda hope they make the battles smaller scale, so the contrast between the more elite unit factions will stand out more to the horde ones

[shadow plover]

they should be bigger and have a 5 man unit of custodes kill 3500 cultists in 10 minutes

[raven stone]

🤣 Knowing how things are I will be happy if Inquisitors and Rogue Traders are Imperial factions wildcard heroes.

[spring cairn]

me getting it depends almost entirely if they manage to have space battles in or not

[dusk patrol]

That’s what I mean though, like with marines you should ideally have a max of 100 marines or something in an army vs Orks where you could have a lot more or whatever

[gray umbra]

Bogging down marneus calgar with chaos culist units while abaddon pimpslaps the artillery

[shadow plover]

as the gods intended

[raven stone]

All the YouTube videos of cinematic automated 40k battles…

[spring cairn]

sinking transport ships in the older total war games is something i miss everyday playing tww3

doing it in space would be peak

[raven stone]

…
Imagine if they somehow managed to incorporate Battlefleet Gothic mechanics.
Peak.

[spring cairn]

an entire ship's worth of super human soldiers ?

gone

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229

[raven stone]

In Battlefleet Gothic we call it “destroying a Battlebarge/Strike Cruiser”

[spring cairn]

yeah but in tw it will have repercussion on the fieldbattles

which is very bueno

[gray umbra]

Wonder if it will be ships flying around and all field based manual combat is a boarding action

Worlds are settlements

Autoresolve is you just shooting down their ship

[spring cairn]

would be lame if it was like that

bring back naval battles

in the form of space battles

[gray umbra]

Well it would make more sense than watching kharn the betrayer go on a 1000 km sprint to the next province

Good ol ttw3 coop, 5 turns = 5 hrs

[spring cairn]

ideally the campaign map would be a system/galaxy

[raven stone]

…imagine if they implemented orbital layers.
Meaning Marines can deploy in drop pods again…and again…and again…and again…

[spring cairn]

and planets would have a few settlements ig

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/indrick-boreale-dance-dawn-of-war-warhammer40k-warhammer40000-danceing-gif-20659219

We call this maneuever

Steel rain

[storm jungle]

its an old reference sir

but it checks out

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-darth-vader-older-code-older-meme-gif-25791307

[young pecan]

What is y'alls' favorite lore fact

I wanna hear wacky stuff

[spring cairn]

anyway, game will be lame until IG dlc

[storm jungle]

That there exists planets filled with wax to make candles

[gray umbra]

The lubricators

[raven stone]

Guilliman actually listen to his very human adoptive (grand?) Mother during the Horus Heresy.

[young pecan]

Is it like in mines or does it grow on trees? How does that work

[tough haven]

Which game?

[dusk patrol]

They make it from your moms toes

[tough haven]

The tau volcano torture conveyor

[spring cairn]

the in-development total war warhammer 40k

[storm jungle]

Its basically how candle production is made IRL but just more grimdank

[tough haven]

Oh peak

[spring cairn]

which might get canned

or not

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/what-did-you-say-mama-hulk-angry-rage-gif-18109730

[gray umbra]

does there exist entire bee worlds

filled with bees

and beekeepers gathering honey and beeswax

[tough haven]

Giant bees

Catachan

[gray umbra]

its a death world

[young pecan]

Local Tyranid drops onto planet, promptly and kindly asked to leave with roughly 12,400 bee stings

[raven stone]

Also the fact that everyone imagines Agri World are fantasy farmlands when they are more canonically like the most nightmarish version of industrialised factory farming you can imagine. Even for vegetation farming.

[gray umbra]

industrial farming is pretty nightmarish in real life

[storm jungle]

^ was gonna say

so many fucking chemicals and other gross shit

its actually disgusting

[raven stone]

Ok true.

[gray umbra]

i imagine 40k just does away with the regulation we have left

[young pecan]

That makes sense, of course it will be capitalized just like rl

[young pecan]

We're getting there anyway

[gray umbra]

yeah

[dusk patrol]

They vary, some are massive industrialized wastelands, some are medieval worlds where they literally don’t know shit about where their crops go besides the sky people take that shit up.

[spring cairn]

i love industrial farming death to the amazon forest

[dusk patrol]

Which is a hilarious image

[gray umbra]

i imagine 40k agriworlds have the topsoil eroded to the point where after x amount of time, they just become desert planets

[storm jungle]

There might be like JUST a few for those copium inhaling grognards but like yeah people forget agri-worlds exist to feed billions of people, a majority are absolutely awful places because the needed industrialism is necessary to create all the slop.

[raven stone]

True as that is, latter version is equally likely to be a feudal world.

[storm jungle]

: )

[young pecan]

At least agri world workers get their food fresh (maybe)

[gray umbra]

monkeys paw curls

[storm jungle]

Its slop.

like, grey slop

literally

[young pecan]

Oh wow

[storm jungle]

theres no happy farmlard planets unless its some backwater shithole whos main purpose is not even to make food

[spring cairn]

i love to eat the goop

[storm jungle]

so basically poland

[raven stone]

Only the elites get actual food.

[gray umbra]

i imagine its like the snowpiercer food bars

[gray umbra]

DEFEAT HUNGER

for humanity

[young pecan]

MtG has 40k cards?

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[gray umbra]

they had a collab

[dusk patrol]

They did a whole set awhile back

[young pecan]

MtG is trying to be like Fortnite

[storm jungle]

I mean

[young pecan]

So much collab

[dusk patrol]

Some pretty great art

[spring cairn]

at least agri worlds should be sunny in theory

[storm jungle]

40k is already fortnite

so it helps

[storm jungle]

Too much smog

they use chemicals to fast-grow crops

[gray umbra]

40k is in call of duty

fortnite collab coming soon

[raven stone]

MtG had a bunch of Collabs
So theoretically you can have your crossover battles.
Obviously the decks are NOT balanced against each other.

[storm jungle]

Actually speaking of eating slop

its almost new year i should go make some soup

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/rowboat-girlyman-roboute-guilliman-space-marines-warhammer-warhammer40k-gif-26642736

I tried to find the California Girls Marine gif but this works

[storm jungle]

[spring cairn]

the why not just stack farms in skyscrapers for max efficiency

[gray umbra]

the mtg art is pretty sick

[raven stone]

Clearly you have not been initiated in the ways of the Hello Kitty Sisters of Battle order.

[queen laurel]

to be honest if more factions know about agri worlds they would target these things to cripple the imperium

[spring cairn]

instead of that mesopotamian looking ass spiral they have going on

[dusk patrol]

We do see some of them target agri worlds or try to

[tough haven]

Janus is kinda both types of agri world, beautiful idyllic setting (that will kill you) and horrific large scale farming complexes (that will kill you)

[raven stone]

Genestealer and Chaos Cults would have a karking field day in all honesty
easiest corruption vector ever

[potent orchid]

Same as supply depots, that makes too much sense and wouldn't really work in 40k's eternal war schtick

[tough haven]

Sorry workers, we’ve chemically removed your ability to rest!

[dusk patrol]

It’s almost like the imperium has a vested interest in defending them

[spring cairn]

assailants usually get bored to death shortly after landing on an agri-world

[tough haven]

“Don’t care what you are, where you came from or what you want, pick up a plow, you’re fucking farming now!”

[spring cairn]

attacking the hive world with crazy space gothic architecture is much more cinematic

[tough haven]

They just get ganged into farming

[tough haven]

But agri worlds also usually have that architecture

[spring cairn]

not on the same scale obviously

[dusk patrol]

I mean thinking about it from a stand point of which enemies are gonna be going after it for objectives

Orks often won’t give a shit, not enough fighting

Chaos half the time is gonna be more concerned with blood shed and direct conflict too.

Drukhari aren’t gonna care about them

[potent orchid]

Aeldari would though

[spring cairn]

depends if it's easy picking

Taus would see the strategic value

[dusk patrol]

Aeldari aren’t in the the business of starving hive worlds often

[potent orchid]

And tyrannids would see it as a free meal

[gray umbra]

aeldari usually see imperium as a buffer between them and their real enemies

[dusk patrol]

And they’re a non factor generally on the galactic scene

Tyranids go after every planet mostly so that’s a moot point

Agri worlds are definitely nice targets for them but it’s not for an objective based reason

[potent orchid]

Nah they won't touch necromunda with a 10 ft pole

Even though they have genestealers there

[dusk patrol]

Yes as I said

They go after every planet mostly

[potent orchid]

Tbf, no one would touch necromunda with a 10ft pole

[keen nova]

Understandable tbh

[spring cairn]

why wouldn't they go for Munda other than they can't destroy it because it's used for this other TT game

[queen laurel]

yeah but that's another moot point because the genestealers there are literally so mutated by the unique radiation that the hive mind can't recognize them

[dusk patrol]

The Genestealer weirdos

[gray umbra]

yeah those mutants are pretty weird

they got this weird religion going on

[dusk patrol]

Tyranids are racist confirmed

[gray umbra]

and have weird faces

[potent orchid]

Where are my genestealers Fatshark, where are they

[spring cairn]

I guess, they had to come up with something to make this shithole tyrannid proof

[gray umbra]

i figured it was along the lines of a permanent plot cliffhanger

[keen nova]

Hey they are bassass in space at least!

[gray umbra]

"theyre doing something and they're doing something devious...coming soon, eventually maybe"

"in 10 years"

[queen laurel]

the planet canonically has i'm pretty sure a god sleeping in it

[potent orchid]

Cadia in a nutshell

[queen laurel]

it is completely and utterly

[gray umbra]

they'll act on it when they can sell something

[queen laurel]

not that easy to navigate

[dusk patrol]

It’s basically its own setting is a big part of it

[keen nova]

How would you even make total war game in a post industrial revolution game? Ww1 alone would probably be a massive problem.

[potent orchid]

Wait what

[keen nova]

Unless your just making Company of Heroes but bigger

[gray umbra]

when ammo runs out, you bayonet charge

probably leverage the tree system for a cover system/trench system

[spring cairn]

by adding new mechanics

[keen nova]

This was supposed to be a reply to @dusk patrol . Thanks discord

[celest dome]

And removing some

[spring cairn]

anyway, they allegedly shit canned the ww1 title

[dusk patrol]

Make it smaller scale I suspect

[spring cairn]

the 40k total war won't have any issue because 40k tactics can get p antique

[dusk patrol]

Maybe more use of cover and stuff

Idk we’ll see

[spring cairn]

a cover system is the obvious choice

[dusk patrol]

If they’re doing space battles they might be doing boarding and stuff

[spring cairn]

with buildables and terrain

[celest dome]

40k isn't really suited for the formation fighting that Total War is known for

[queen laurel]

yeah they first need to make a new engine though

[dusk patrol]

Well we’re gonna see

[spring cairn]

it absolutely is

[dusk patrol]

The game can just evolve

[potent orchid]

Okay hear me out: a Gears of War game but set in 40k

No wait a minute

[dusk patrol]

Idk why people always insist it couldn’t work, it just needs to evolve a bit

[keen nova]

It would be all of those men of war assault squad videos all over again.

[spring cairn]

formation translate to squad and voila

[dusk patrol]

Yeah just make it more squad based. Focus on cover. Melee and fast moving units to pin down ranged ones.

Elites like Eldar and Space Marines have less units than Orks or Guard

[keen nova]

The existence of blanks. Them being the anti special OC's is brillant.

[spring cairn]

guard, orks and other factions are perfectly set for the 120+ model units the franchise is known for

[celest dome]

Hardly does translate well

[dusk patrol]

I mean we’re gonna see

[keen nova]

Yeah that's what I mean

[dusk patrol]

Idk it might suck but I doubt it won’t work

[spring cairn]

it don't see why it wouldn't

[celest dome]

Also Sega has a well known Squad based strategy game that they have

[spring cairn]

other than "it's not like before"

[keen nova]

Companynof heroes but bigger!

[dusk patrol]

Yeah like, idk where the idea is that they have to just remake Total Warhammer but with 40k units

[potent orchid]

Last time we tried squads in 40k we ended up with DoW2

[spring cairn]

40k's setting is supposed to be big in scale who cares if it's not like the tt

[keen nova]

You play as Ork commandos

[dusk patrol]

CA is capable of evolving the format, I guarantee they’ve thought about doing games from later eras before and how it would work

[gray umbra]

dow2 wasnt bad either

[potent orchid]

It wasn't bad, but it wasn't dow1

[gray umbra]

sure wasnt

[celest dome]

But battles aren't formation based...

It's not about size

It's about how they fight

[spring cairn]

and why couldn't they be, for the game

[celest dome]

Cause it would be stupid

[spring cairn]

why

[keen nova]

They would have to be abundant cover built into every map, which would make it no longer Total war-unless you drastically shorten the range of all firearms

[celest dome]

Having a Square of Guardsmen move toward a Custodes would not work

[dusk patrol]

Why

[spring cairn]

yeah obviously they'd shoot them from afar instead of moving at them

[dusk patrol]

There would also be a lot more hybridizing melee and ranged for units

Especially elite ones

[keen nova]

The amount of guardsman you would need to make that match up would brick your pc dawg

[spring cairn]

skavens in tww get 160 model units

[keen nova]

I mean, your shits gonna be flammin'

[spring cairn]

no problemo

[dusk patrol]

It would be a standard total war levels yeah lol

[keen nova]

Nucular even

[celest dome]

See this. This would not make sense in 40k.

[gray umbra]

mauraders are 250 men strong per unit

[potent orchid]

I mean, it works in the tabletop, they could make it work in videogame form with some adjustments 🤷

[dusk patrol]

That’s kinda half the fun, you could actually illustrate the differences between elites and horde factions

Better than the tabletop does

[gray umbra]

then you have like 16 aspiring champions

[celest dome]

Table top isn't Formation based like Warhammer Fantasy was...

So no

Try again

[raven stone]

I imagine in a modern context it would be more like an operational command for Total War.
You tell units to move around without formations, or have certain units have aura buffs that apply as long as units are in aura range

[dusk patrol]

I’ve never seen people try to talk their way out of a potentially great game, which is already being made, like I have 40k fans with this lol

[spring cairn]

it would be completely fine in 40k

[dusk patrol]

If it sucks, who cares?

Don’t buy it then.

[keen nova]

If it's during 40k than they fighting would just turn into dow again.

[dusk patrol]

It’s so silly to me, I’m sure CA are aware of this and probably are adjusting a lot of things and this is a big experiment.

[spring cairn]

if the perfectly alligned ranks disturb you, just have them in loose formation and you can pretend they're all individual

but for the sake of being able to manage your army

they have to be units

[dusk patrol]

Like it’s not like in WH Fantasy for example, that Rat Ogres actually all form one unit and attack normally

[spring cairn]

literally, they just need a few new mechanics like cover and it's done and dusted

[keen nova]

I'm stealing this btws

[potent orchid]

Part of the charm of 40k lmao

[spring cairn]

they're afraid of peak...

[dusk patrol]

If it’s any good I’m gonna be very smug on a lot of servers

[spring cairn]

me too

[shadow plover]

et voilà

[dusk patrol]

I’ve been saying Total Warhammer 40k should be a thing for a long time

[spring cairn]

more so than i already am

[potent orchid]

Tbf if 10 years ago you would have told me that one of the best 40k games would be a mechanicus xcom game I would have been a tad cynical too

[keen nova]

I bought squad just for the 40k imperial guard mod and they took it down to add spEesH maRinES. All I want is a tactical FPS in this universe. At least on the scale of insurgency or something

[storm jungle]

Damn might have some news for that one

https://tenor.com/view/mustafa-necohaus-kitty-cat-warhammer-40k-gif-11500918880958315641

[potent orchid]

explain

[storm jungle]

I was joking saying its Dorktide

40k is very much never getting a insurgency/ARMA tier game

[potent orchid]

Do not... Play with my feelings like that...

[spring cairn]

despite needing that

something less larpy maybe

ala battlefield

[storm jungle]

battlefield is simple enough that would be good

[dusk patrol]

Making binary statements on these things is very bold these days

[storm jungle]

as much as i enjoy blowing up americans

I mean uh

[keen nova]

I am eternally grateful for darktide's existence. Even if we never get what I wanted at least I got to be a boots on the ground guardsmen

[dusk patrol]

I thought you guys liked blowing up Kurds?

[storm jungle]

Silence zionist ✋

[potent orchid]

When are we getting the among us 40k game?

[storm jungle]

Yeah same, its honestly a dream come true for most people which is nice.

[dusk patrol]

There’s probably already a heresy mod for among us

[storm jungle]

people were hoping for a tide game since vermintide so its neat

[shadow plover]

that's Darktide too

[storm jungle]

DO NOT SAY IT

[shadow plover]

among ... .

[keen nova]

To actually have a tactile and weight experience with all the wargear you read about

[storm jungle]

[shadow plover]

I don't have the interrogator gif

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036392908326174790/1241519131967361024/darktide_rannick_youve_served_me_well.gif

You have sussed me well

[shadow plover]

not that one

[storm jungle]

damn it

[shadow plover]

the eyebrow one

[spring cairn]

dw i'll make it in the game industry and will make battlefield 40k happen

[shadow plover]

might've been a video too actually

[keen nova]

Which kind of battlefield though? And which factions?

[shadow plover]

2142 or bust

[dusk patrol]

All of them

[potent orchid]

GW lawyer reading this chat: maniacal laughter

[spring cairn]

i was thinking about something like

[dusk patrol]

All at once

[spring cairn]

rising storm vietnam

tau vs guard

[potent orchid]

Orks vs guard

[dusk patrol]

Ok but you said you wanted it to be made

Not die in concept

[spring cairn]

i will make it happen

[shadow plover]

God I wish RS2 were still good

[keen nova]

YES

[storm jungle]

Tau vs guard is about as realistic-combat as you can get too

aka

pop your head out

you get shot

or worse, aimbotted by a drone

https://tenor.com/view/drone-dog-fly-invasion-funny-animals-gif-8371134

poor bastard

[spring cairn]

and when you come face to face with the enemy in melee it'll be believable when someone dies from being shanked once

[storm jungle]

and insta awkward ragdolled

https://tenor.com/view/gmod-ragdoll-video-game-video-game-gif-20573521

[keen nova]

Are tau drones tanky or squishy? (Lasgun for reference)

[storm jungle]

Depends on the drone

they got like Taubillions of them

[keen nova]

And traitor guard

[storm jungle]

same as how the Guard has lasgunillion guns

[spring cairn]

traitor guard vs guard would be too bland

[keen nova]

Agreed, I just mean it as one more

[storm jungle]

that and nobody cares about traitor guard unfortunately on the grander scale

[spring cairn]

ideally the opposing factions are very distinct this helps players recognise who is who

[outer wave]

Its the mirror match: it could get intense epecially if the traitor guard originated from their loyalist counterpart's regiment, which would mean they'd be using similar tactics

[keen nova]

Honestly A lot of their designs are so bland that you wouldn't want to play as them

[shadow plover]

oh no, I went to look for some baller RS2 clips I had but I've lost all of them with the dreaded HDD implosion of 2019

[spring cairn]

rising storm did asymmetrical pvp so well

it must be studied

[storm jungle]

Reality: You get server banned for not rp'ing accurately

RDM RDM RDM RDM

[shadow plover]

and how hard they dropped the ball with one update

[keen nova]

It would be the easiest to balance but runs the risk of Lacking variety

[spring cairn]

we only take the good parts

[outer wave]

Oh sorry, I forgot that you have to act like a raging insane jackass instead of a soldier of chaos when you're a traitor guard

[dusk patrol]

I mean it’s gonna be chaos guard vs guard with maybe space marines as an elite you can be.

[storm jungle]

Me when i wanna have a tasty meal but gotta put up with the disgusting space marine side-dish

[dusk patrol]

That way they can all use the same basic guns

[outer wave]

Space marines gotta have that crunch though, right?

[keen nova]

I always thought that an Traitor guard modeled after the word bearers would the most interesting.

[spring cairn]

now that would be cost effective dev wise, but not very cool

[outer wave]

Like that KFC-sounding ass crunch

[spring cairn]

unlike tau vs guard

[storm jungle]

I DO enjoy being a tall person in armor blowing up people so i cant deny it

[outer wave]

True!

[storm jungle]

fallout gang engage

[shadow plover]

we had a huge community server for RS2 on which I played constantly. With that one dreaded update the whole community shifted to HLL and I still yearn back to the jungle

[keen nova]

Almost battlefront like, hero units?

[storm jungle]

Jerk please

the war is over

the game is long past.....

[shadow plover]

I need to go back

[potent orchid]

New vegas but in a hive city

[dusk patrol]

Something like that

[storm jungle]

A servitor called Mr. Fisto???

[vagrant fox]

RS2 was too good and I want to go back

[dusk patrol]

Battlefronts system would actually be perfect ngl

[spring cairn]

tau crisis suit call in

[keen nova]

That last one

[spring cairn]

p cool

[shadow plover]

Having a dedicated server you'd play on doesn't just happen in this day and age. It had been +10 years since I last had something like that

[dusk patrol]

With the elites being marines and maybe like SoB

[queen laurel]

ah yes don't you just love it when literal random bandits still try to rob you even though you are literally wearing a exoskeleton that can carry tank mounted guns

[vagrant fox]

Fuckin Todd

[potent orchid]

I still have that in tf2

[queen laurel]

my guy you have shot me 50 times and every single one of them bounced off

[keen nova]

Galactic conquest/dark crusade map/Red Orchestra 2 campaign style shit but with multiple factions

[vagrant fox]

I wish Fallout 4 was good for anything but wearing power armour, walking around shooting anything that moves, and smoking big doinks

[shadow plover]

it's just not the same..

[dusk patrol]

Imagine playing fallout for anything else

[vagrant fox]

Just sometimes I crave a character that's something deeper than a walking warcrime

[dusk patrol]

“Oh man let me play through New Vegas and do 95% of the same things but this time I say yes instead of no to House.”

[spring cairn]

impossible with bethesda

you will stealth archer

[dusk patrol]

“What choice! What freedom!”

[spring cairn]

the next elder scroll will suck balls

[vagrant fox]

Don't forget you can golf club House as an alternative to saying no

[dusk patrol]

Now if I could do that in Fallout 4 power armor

[spring cairn]

like in bioshock

a real game

for real gamers

[dusk patrol]

Now we’d be talking

[vagrant fox]

Bioshock can suck my taint I hate it #systemshockforlife

[shadow plover]

I cannot understand how people could enjoy skyrim to begin with

[crystal forum]

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explode-cat-explosion-cat-explode-boom-gif-5774509256627282047

[potent orchid]

The mods did the heavy lifting

[crystal forum]

it always felt like inferior fallout to me but that's mostly because i dont enjoy fantasy settings

[vagrant fox]

I played Bioshock for about three hours and just took pictures of fish because I got bored of it

[shadow plover]

mods don't save it

the core is flawed

[crystal forum]

lots of people enjoyed these games on consoles. i dont like when people say mods are the only things that made the old bethesda games good

[spring cairn]

fallout is just tes with guns and tes is just fallout with sworsd

[shadow plover]

AND BOTH SUCK!!!

[vagrant fox]

Skyrim is mid-ok, at least it's not Starfield

[spring cairn]

both suck balls

[potent orchid]

FAR CRY 3 IS SKYRIM WITH GUNS!!!!

[crystal forum]

i for one played fallout new vegas on xbox 360 and never needed to download a big boob mod or realistic guns

[shadow plover]

which also sucks

We're on a sucking spree here

[crystal forum]

WHAT

[potent orchid]

Fc3 was gas

[shadow plover]

it's peepeepoopoo

[crystal forum]

far cry 3 is a masterpiece

[vagrant fox]

Far Cry went downhill after 2

[shadow plover]

this

[crystal forum]

far cry 2 sucks so much ass

[shadow plover]

could not finish 3, barely got to the second island

[crystal forum]

it's just running around doing jack shit and the story is boring

[shadow plover]

and what is FC3 if not that

[crystal forum]

it has a story

[shadow plover]

which is boring

[spring cairn]

unlike bioshock a good game for good gamers

[crystal forum]

and the characters are so memorable

[potent orchid]

Fc2 would have been great if it had an actual story + better art direction + no insta-spawning

[crystal forum]

fucking vaas

the CIA guy

[shadow plover]

it has one character people remember

[crystal forum]

and it has sex

[shadow plover]

what's the protagonist' name

[potent orchid]

Jason

[shadow plover]

CAN'T REMEMBER IT CAN YOU

[storm jungle]

Jason

its literally the most generic rich white boy name

[crystal forum]

he's boring af i know

but him being boring is on purpose

[shadow plover]

yeah and you could've made it up and I'd believe you

[storm jungle]

im more of an Ajay fan tho so im biased

[storm jungle]

stfu white boy

[spring cairn]

this is like trying to remember the killzone protagonist

an exercise in futility

[storm jungle]

Sevchenko?

lol

[crystal forum]

name me the far cry 2 guy who doesnt even fucking talk

[spring cairn]

army guy

[storm jungle]

Sevchenko

also know as uh

Sev

[shadow plover]

You can't really defend KZ portagonists either

[potent orchid]

Iirc there's like 6 playable characters

[shadow plover]

they suck too

[spring cairn]

that's what i'm saying yeah

[storm jungle]

I mean

KZ is not about the pratgonists

so yes

lmao

everyone is here for the helghast looking drippy

and brian cox making hitler speeches

[spring cairn]

it's about sick helghan aesthetics

[crystal forum]

i love running around the map collecting diamonds while enemies spot me instantly and the combat is the same repetitive shit

far cry 3 had A FUCKING FLAMETHROWER

[storm jungle]

You should be fed to sharks

make it bun dem cheeks

🍑 ✋

[crystal forum]

and there's even a mission where you get stoned burning a weed field

[storm jungle]

to be fair

that is like

[crystal forum]

as a 13 year old boy i was happy

[storm jungle]

THE most memorable mission

especially for that track

[crystal forum]

with the dubstep playing in the background

[vagrant fox]

In San Andreas, yeah. I remember that

[normal light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXAugWfVb0E&pp=ygUQa2lsbHpvbmUgdHJhaWxlcg%3D%3D

[potent orchid]

Ngl the FC6 version of that mission was way better, even though the rest of the game sucks balls

[crystal forum]

far cry is so fucking bad nowadays

[shadow plover]

they really be grasping when they gotta redo the "weed mission" from FC3

[spring cairn]

i knew nothing of killzone like a month ago

[crystal forum]

there's like 2 far cry games that nobody even talks about

[storm jungle]

It extremely suffers from being a Playstation-locked series

[spring cairn]

the games look boring ngl but the helghan stuff is sick

[normal light]

same, I watched 4 hours of it's lore and core ideas

[crystal forum]

the post apocalypse one and primal

[potent orchid]

The music was so fucking good too

https://youtu.be/x1GtboWyvOc

[spring cairn]

universe looks cool, but the vibes went to shit with kz3

[broken sundial]

Love that one

[storm jungle]

yep

thats the generla consensus

it became an action movie

[vagrant fox]

FC6 seems like it could have been good, but oh well

[crystal forum]

can somebody explain to me how helldivers got a colab with a like 10 year old game

[spring cairn]

sony

[storm jungle]

Money

Sony

[outer wave]

Why didnt the reflection of the light off his bald ass head blind the Helghast, are the writers stupid?

[potent orchid]

The cuba setting had so much potential and they ruined it

[storm jungle]

GERİLYA

[crystal forum]

for a dead IP? nah somebody in the team really wanted it

[spring cairn]

sony decides who they are allowed to collab with basically

and they own kz

[potent orchid]

WHY DO THEY SAY IT EVERY 5 MINUTES???

[crystal forum]

somebody in the helldivers team really liked killzone

[vagrant fox]

They knew it was about time you got to play as the good guys

[spring cairn]

not really

[storm jungle]

IM FUCKING GOING NUTS

[storm jungle]

Its not dead

[crystal forum]

is a new game coming?

[keen nova]

Helghan drip was immaculate

[spring cairn]

actually i think they're big fans of warhammer at ah

[normal light]

KZ2 was kinda the best

[storm jungle]

idk ask Gerilya you little furry shit

[spring cairn]

it was stated

[storm jungle]

KZ2 was very much the peak of the series

the ugly industrial aesthetic and the WW2 vibes were peak

[crystal forum]

doeant the CEO play tabletop

[spring cairn]

he does iirc

[shadow plover]

I played KZ1 the most, never owned 2 but played it a bunch at a friend's house

[potent orchid]

KZ3 had dusty old space nazis bickering with each other, which gets a golden star in my book

[normal light]

First of all, the Helghast lost most of their vibe

[crystal forum]

that type of aesthetic was created by 2000's console limitations and i love it so much. dead space, gears of war. so much chunky industrial

[spring cairn]

but as i said, sony decides who they're allowed to collab with so good luck collabing with a non-sony owned ip

[storm jungle]

Also Malcolm fucking McDowell

https://tenor.com/view/killzone-jorhan-stahl-predictable-gif-26501048

[crystal forum]

there needs to be a name for chunky industrial

[storm jungle]

No it was not

[normal light]

KZ2

[storm jungle]

they literally say in the making of killzone

the industrial aesthetic was a stylistic choice

[keen nova]

Yes! Exactly!

[storm jungle]

half the team was engineers of some degree lol

[normal light]

KZ3

[storm jungle]

its not a "limitation" thing

[crystal forum]

tf2 was all a stylistic choice too but created from limitations as well

[spring cairn]

that's not the worst offender tbf

[crystal forum]

limitations give a lot of freedom

[storm jungle]

I mean no thats not the same thing

TF2 was literally a 60's spyflick

Killzone was industrial on purpose because WW2

[normal light]

What is worse than?

[storm jungle]

also again the team being interested in the aesthetic

[keen nova]

It's just charming ya know

[spring cairn]

the tech mostly

[crystal forum]

im not saying it being industrial is a limitation. im talking about the chunky ass models and stuff

[vagrant fox]

I want more Killzone spaceships, bring my boys back

[storm jungle]

That was also a stylistic choice though

💀

[crystal forum]

it was very common at the time

[storm jungle]

It really wasnt

KZ2's only shooter competitor at the time was halo

[crystal forum]

dead space, gears of war, metro 2033

[storm jungle]

the only chonky thing in that game was master chief's asscheek-

[crystal forum]

bioshock 2

[keen nova]

It was pretty bad in shadowfall

[spring cairn]

helghans are mutants so they're chunky

[crystal forum]

fallout 3

[shadow plover]

bald fucks

[storm jungle]

rico with the racism

smh

[spring cairn]

they all look the same

bald and white

[storm jungle]

Me seeing americans for the first time

[crystal forum]

where else have we seen this

[spring cairn]

harkonnen

[shadow plover]

when I played KZ for the first time I barely understood english and yet I still laughed at bald fuck

[crystal forum]

we 40k fans are clearly above the saturation of bald white men

[keen nova]

Have you guys seen the video essay on killzone where they just kept spamming BALD FUCK

[normal light]

mutant's - only difference is that they are more pale

[potent orchid]

kz mercenary was the peak of the series

[normal light]

YES

[spring cairn]

they're like stronger than a normal human and more resillient

[keen nova]

It's my favorite too. And unfortunately the only one I got to play feom start to finish

[vagrant fox]

Helghans special ability is asthma

[normal light]

Maybe but like we get to know it from Helghast propaganda itself

[spring cairn]

yeah but they punch good

[crystal forum]

@storm jungle resident evil 4, 5, 6

[storm jungle]

Nobody in those games was chunky

what the fuck

have you even played those games

[crystal forum]

the models

[storm jungle]

No???

[crystal forum]

yes

[vagrant fox]

??

[storm jungle]

How is leon comparable to a killzone character

LOL

[normal light]

Other than that we find notes from Helghast Scientists researching their genome and finding it almost identical to regular human one

[potent orchid]

Chris redfield is full of tren

[storm jungle]

Chris is the only huge guy

[shadow plover]

I'm sorry but the 7th console gen grey ass shitty aesthetic is the worst ever

literal garbage

[vagrant fox]

Brown grey got boring after a while

[storm jungle]

Chad Boris appreciation hours btw

"PISS."

[crystal forum]

everything was brown gray in the late 2000's early 2010's

[spring cairn]

this is why i'm so happy valve didn't go with the half life 2 beta look

i like when it' sunny

[crystal forum]

now everything is colourful and nikki minaj dlc

[spring cairn]

more sun please

[potent orchid]

PLEASE SONY, RELEASE IT ON MODERN HARDWARE

[crystal forum]

i feel like hl2 struck a middle ground between bleak and cheerful

[storm jungle]

No

half life just struck europe

[normal light]

And that guy was later killed by ISA

[crystal forum]

the models are depressing but not as depressing as other games

[keen nova]

Perhaps it was overplayed at the time-nowdays however, We get sixty million pastel colored Indie games and Every AAA game had that overwatch h/Pixar softness to them

[spring cairn]

whenever they let bloodborne go

[storm jungle]

Fuckers too, hate em

[potent orchid]

It did get boring after while, and then games a lot more colorful
And now colorful got boring, and people want the old brown back

[storm jungle]

Also me when @crystal forum says anything regarding Gaymers

[crystal forum]

nikki minaj pink hair dlc

[shadow plover]

I really disliked it then and I dislike it more now, hope we never go back

[spring cairn]

it should be left to the dev's vision

not because it's a market standard

[storm jungle]

^

when it works it works

[potent orchid]

The new dragon age is just so... Colorful

[keen nova]

Beat me to it

[potent orchid]

Imo the witcher 3 is the only game that has gotten away with vibrant colors

[keen nova]

Boris was the best character in the whole franchise

[storm jungle]

Its because its color palette depends on the region

[normal light]

Also returning to Shadowfall

[storm jungle]

The european-esque country side is bleak because theres corpses, dead and ruins everywhere

Novigrad is colorful because its a lively town

[vagrant fox]

That's just Eastern Europe

[storm jungle]

Touissant is INCREDIBLY vibrant because its a medieval fantasy land

[keen nova]

Agreed

[normal light]

I think KZ3 just fucked the main lore and Shadowfall just worked with what was left to it

[crystal forum]

call of duty zombies went from bleak early 2000's gritty colours to PURPLE AND PINK CHTULU COCK ENERGY

[storm jungle]

Shadowfall ruined everything alas

[normal light]

I approve, as a local resident

[vagrant fox]

Soft reboot Killzone ok thanks

[keen nova]

I was going through the other messages so took a minute to get to the PISS

[spring cairn]

they should let me do it

[potent orchid]

And release killzone trilogy remastered

[crystal forum]

LAMBDA should be lead dev

[storm jungle]

Shorter version 🙏

[crystal forum]

i support this

[spring cairn]

i will save killzone (i didn't knew it existed 2 months ago)

[keen nova]

They Crucified him

[normal light]

yeah........

THE GLORIUOS ISA

[vagrant fox]

When I visited Poland in the early mid 2000s I stayed at a village that was at best 50% roofed and it was so bleak
Very cheap though I lived like a king

[storm jungle]

Anyway basically no matter how much the Shitdivers playerbase bitched, Helghan shall live on and sell more cosmetics.

All divers will be destroyed if it comes to it ✊

https://tenor.com/view/killzone-helghast-flag-killzone-helghan-flag-wave-killzone-1-hd-killzone-ps3-gif-18348692822425566654

[spring cairn]

it sold well

[storm jungle]

incredibly well

[potent orchid]

This post has been fact checked by true helghan patriots

[keen nova]

Typical Vektans, yellow as PISS

Honestly all of his Dialogue should be written in bold caps

[vagrant fox]

It was a little overpriced by anything for Helghan

[spring cairn]

and i even got the second part for free so eh

sure they bitch a lot but thx i g

[storm jungle]

It helps that the helghast are all voiced by Cadian tier angry british dudes

"VEKTAN SCUM"

[outer wave]

Do you know if there's any other Helghast armors that they could put up on the cosmetics store?

[normal light]

Honestly, decent KZ game which will follow lore after KZ2 but not the way KZ3 did

[storm jungle]

Tons

helghast got so many units

[spring cairn]

i want the combine in hd2

[spring cairn]

they'd fit right in

[outer wave]

Holy shit TF2

[potent orchid]

There were a lot of armor suits that didn't make it into the games too

[spring cairn]

hl2 collab

[crystal forum]

does this mean we might get concord crossover

[vagrant fox]

Make my Helldivers ship a Helghast one, it'd be dope

[crystal forum]

the best game of 2024

[storm jungle]

the bast part is

it would barely look any different

lol

[outer wave]

Okay so there's a ton they should add

[storm jungle]

Also yeah barely, they got tons

[vagrant fox]

Man the spaceships looked cool

[keen nova]

I'm stealing this

[normal light]

They guys we lost

[storm jungle]

God speed

[storm jungle]

LMAO

SHUT UP

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-transformers-one-darkwing-miners-orion-pax-gif-4220211221272465850

GETOUTOFMYHEAD

[normal light]

THE PROLETARIAT!

[storm jungle]

also my favorite part of that game is those guys are literally civillians pushed into fighting you

its so fucking funny

[normal light]

Yeah, also it's kinda half both

[vagrant fox]

I did like the dinky shitty stupid Vektan drop platform things. Incredibly lame things

[storm jungle]

Yeah in the next level some helghast literally call them "parasites" like bitch im just doing my job

[keen nova]

Weren't wr supposed to get a helghast voice pack too?

[storm jungle]

I doubt it?

it just looked like costumes

no "PISS." for us alas

[normal light]

Well, that's how it works in dictatorships

[storm jungle]

lmao yea

[keen nova]

I'd kill for more of these

[storm jungle]

same

[spring cairn]

i love when the spaceships are as utilitarian as they can be

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1222533448246362234/1252294556582547477/image.png?ex=67756930&is=677417b0&hm=4c46cda4cd7cfe7bc8feb7b25ed020c8a94978def2f0fd2d04688d230fa41343&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=876&height=538

[keen nova]

SILENCE

[spring cairn]

like this spacebrick

[storm jungle]

you should see the vektan spear-ships in KZ2

they literally fucking-

got containers on their sides

since they are shitty repurposed corporate army vessels

[keen nova]

Weren't this guys pressed into service?

[storm jungle]

Yeah they were

they beg you not to kill them sometimes

[normal light]

Mostly yes

[spring cairn]

everyday i pray they finally use the automaton spacebrick in game

please ah

i need it

[keen nova]

Just saw this lol

[keen nova]

I didn’t know that 😭

[storm jungle]

Yeah its a rare one lmao

[spring cairn]

it has broadsides...

[normal light]

Still, like it's a dictatorship, you could not throw away that some of them may just be fanatical

[storm jungle]

yeah its both

because you got that one part where Rico corners one

[keen nova]

And I'm caught up!