40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

The SoB, Marines and higher ranked mechanicus members make up the upper “hierarchy” of those suffering from the murder curse

Very much a might makes right situation rn

[storm jungle]

I like how all 3 above messages said the same thing without being aware of each other's post

[arctic talon]

My brain is smooth

[storm jungle]

shut up nerd

[hallow saddle]

discord always leaves me scrolled up tbf (absolutely 100% not skill issue!!!!!)

Guys did you know how in the Arks of Om--

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

The arks of bober

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-arthur-arthur-nightingale-warframe-1999-1999-gif-4632106320046100632

[storm jungle]

god I hate it

[arctic talon]

Hate what

Me?

Reasonable tbh

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[queen laurel]

I love the fact that we unironically use that insult here

Is one of the biggest collection of nerds insulting each other with the word nerd

[queen laurel]

Hey listen to me you nuln oil drinker i'm the most hated member of this chat do not take that crown from me

[arctic talon]

💀

Sorry lol

Was that not funny?

[storm jungle]

It was dont worry lol

[azure knoll]

wait did femstodes just get retconned?

[spring cairn]

I've seen a thumbnail on yt about that but i don't trust that shit

[tough haven]

That’s why it’s ok to use it here

[tough haven]

I doubt it

[queen laurel]

I'm pretty sure they haven't

It's literally quite new

[azure knoll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRHiekrIFgY
it's chuds trying to play words

[storm jungle]

Bohemond is an actual psychopath, dont pay attention to anything he says

[azure knoll]

"brotherhood" "name granted to him upon his investiture" when the book is written by men for a majority masculine hobby

[storm jungle]

hes been crying about femtodes since their reveal with the codex for almost months now

he also "threatened" to leave 40k because of it and go to battletech and came back after realising that hobby was also filled with queer people lol

[azure knoll]

it'd always be canon in my eyes. there's so much shit that's unexplored that i headcanoned because why not, it's not like gw cares about what fans think

[queen laurel]

Did he seriously try to ditch 40k to go to another setting that's considered a good 40k alternative?

[storm jungle]

Yeah lol he made a whole "announcement"

he was REALLY mad

[queen laurel]

All right then let me file him on Majorkill tier

[storm jungle]

Hes even worse tbh, guy is a homophobic fascist-apologist

[azure knoll]

honestly i'm also of the stance that, with the advances of medicine, transitions are easier than ever, and that many in the ranks of the sisters of battle are trans

[queen laurel]

Yeah at least at worse all i can say about the australian is that he has an ego but he tries to be a good person

Let me tell you he is absolutely not the best but compared to this marshall guy

He's pretty f****** tame

[storm jungle]

also GW has never backed down from a decision like this and do people really think they'd "retcon" femtodes after releasing an animation with one as a main character that obviously cost quite a bit of money to make lol

Bo has gone to like actually sociopathic lenghts to say "no femtodes dont exist I dont accept this" like a mental asylum patient

[azure knoll]

it's also like

[storm jungle]

its kinda just pathetic honestly

[azure knoll]

would these chuds consider "men" in older fantasy books to mean only human men?

when it meant mankind?

[storm jungle]

They would, believe me lol

[azure knoll]

would they consider the word mankind to mean only human men?

[storm jungle]

even when they were revealed in the 10th edition codex people were saying "brotherhood only means men" when we got plenty of example of it including both genders

[queen laurel]

I hate people who get unreasonably mad at the things they like on lore getting changed unofficially and officially

Like okay it's just a furry commissar, that literally doesn't affect your setting, if it's an official change you can just you know

Think of it as dumb

And you know ignore it

[azure knoll]

fuckin

[queen laurel]

Like i've seen someone blow their heads over like very much tame fan content

[azure knoll]

brotherhood of silence in elder scrolls

when the leader of the skyrim one being literally a woman

[storm jungle]

people just use "brotherhood" because it sounds cooler

like the Dark Fellowship is not exactly badass sounding lmao

[azure knoll]

sisterhood doesn't work as well

[storm jungle]

yeah there isnt really a good unisex equilavent aside from fellowship

[misty vector]

another day, another cringe "anti-woke" video

[queen laurel]

Brotherhood of steel moment even though we have women

[azure knoll]

mostly due to how it's used by people, in what contexts, but still

[storm jungle]

Space marine fans be normal challenge: impossible

[azure knoll]

youtube's been feeding me some strange things lately

[tough haven]

Delusions of persecution type shit

[storm jungle]

Yep essentially lol

I got his twitter account blocked since it was where i saw his shit the most so i dont really see him as much since then

[queen laurel]

I tell them my ork oc can make a gun that randomly teleports their organs on hit outside of their armor and then suddenly i'm apparently an illegal immigrant from somewhere and should have been hanged by the rope

[tough haven]

Wait fr?

[azure knoll]

are we being serious right now

[queen laurel]

Nah

[tough haven]

Oh ok

[queen laurel]

He's not that crazy

[tough haven]

I’m surprised, I thought that was real

[queen laurel]

He does ride a Maw-krusha

[storm jungle]

OH MAN

you reminded me

one of my fav things from him was uh

"this femtodes lore was added by rogue interns"

what is this the fucking cold war?

[tough haven]

Oh I meant the people saying you need to be hanged

Not the oc

[queen laurel]

Oh that, yeah i was making a joke but like it's not that far off that they would say it

[azure knoll]

one actually sentient chud

rare sighting

tfw a setting made by a for profit company is going a way which earns the for profit company more profit

[hallow plover]

it's all mental gymnastics at this point

[queen laurel]

Seriously does he not know the obvious you know lore checking before all of this is released

[tough haven]

Allow me to introduce you to a friend, his name is Occam, you should see his razor

[tough haven]

Doesnt GW literally hire people to check their lore first?

[azure knoll]

this comment section is gold

[queen laurel]

Yeah like

[azure knoll]

this obviously means intelligence

[queen laurel]

I'm pretty sure someone checks and edits their lore stuff

[tough haven]

oh @opaque coyote hows your rogue trader run going?

[tough haven]

Average imperial

[azure knoll]

look what he needs to do to get views

this is pure gold

oh he plays darktide

[queen laurel]

Ain't no way he is portraying a creator in a negative light without proper common sense

[azure knoll]

a twitter gem from bohemond

so it's not satire to him. cool. means he considers himself a fascist, cleansing the world of undesirables

how quaint...

[misty vector]

lol they literally put it at the start of like every book how terrible everything is

[azure knoll]

if 40k isn't satire then gods are dead and aren't worth worshipping, or want you to suffer so aren't worth worshipping. if it isn't satire, the best choice would be to join a commune of pacifists and live out your best life helping others achieve happiness (oh wait on this one)

[shadow plover]

Bohemond is the most illiterate jackass I've ever seen

[vagrant fox]

A common challenge for 40k youtubers

[outer wave]

He really went out there to make a 2 hour and 30 minute video critiquing Bricky's critique of SM2, wow

That's really fuckin dumb

[spare osprey]

LIBERAL GOTHMOG!?

[green loom]

He is jumping though many hurdles just to not say "I FUCKING HATE WOMEN" outright

[green loom]

There's a Brotherhood of Steel lady you can ask this in fkn one of the first fallouts and she just goes "Yknow, I never actually thought about it"

Because like, it's a name

The only people who spare grey matter for it are morons like Bohemond

[outer wave]

I wonder what's his evidence for femstodes not existing anymore for some reason after being added into lore

[rocky gale]

The Chuds mortal enemy, basic grammar

[rose thorn]

‘The Warhammer has fallen, millions must buy Black Templars’

[tough haven]

Anyone know how to translate a google sheets? I'm trying to translate a rogue trader guide to something I can read

[storm jungle]

I literally have been avoiding his presence for almost a year but hes like some maggot that can just get into any crevice.

Like this is the first time ive seen him mentioned in months and I just had to see the channel name of the video much to my horror 💀

[shadow plover]

I keep seeing his shit on twitter even though I've had him blocked for at least two years

[storm jungle]

Bruh

musk-twitter moment

[shadow plover]

because people keep posting his 'takes' as screenshots

[storm jungle]

Id suggest mass-blocking largely anyone that does that

its worked wonders for me

[shadow plover]

it's mostly to dunk on the guy but I'd rather not see them at all

[storm jungle]

Yeah I like dunk-posts in small amounts.

id very much just not remember this piece of shit exists on my feed lol

[vagrant fox]

A life without culture war chuds has drastically improved my mental health, big recommend

[outer wave]

I just try and not pay attention to that side of twitter

I did earlier and saw that dude that everyone here is talking about complaining about an artist making a depiction of that AI image that anti-woke warhammer youtubers use with the fat rainbow space marine

[spare osprey]

It spreads to insta too sadly.

[outer wave]

Yeah that was pretty awful

[outer wave]

Its just everywhere tbh

[spare osprey]

Ppl like gitgud

And the one thing I hate so much

Is that screenshot of a GW tweet or whatever

That they use as a gotcha

“Everything is canon”

[outer wave]

Ah that tweet

[spare osprey]

I despise it

[outer wave]

Generally people doing gotcha posts like that are annoying

[storm jungle]

Waiting for that one dude that always goes "who cares"

[outer wave]

I wish people would care less about issues like this and care about bigger shit

[rose thorn]

What model is this?!?

It’s fucking fire

[storm jungle]

I THINK it was an exclusive thing?

i remember it being leaked before finally releasing

[rose thorn]

Yeee ur right

[storm jungle]

yeee thats the one

[rocky gale]

A lot of the exclusive models really should just be standard releases

Like this guy, just release him as the standard Ghoul King model

We don't have a Ghoul King model

Why make an exclusive limited time version of a model you don't sell

[storm jungle]

bro the cape-holder being a fucking teeth he pierced into his tit is CRAZY

[rocky gale]

Like the only way to get a Ghoul King on foot RN is to buy a Ghoul King mounted on a Terrorgheist and then just not put him on the Terrorgheist

and it looks like this

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/wolverine-deadpool-%26-wolverine-deadpool-and-wolverine-jumpscare-fnaf-gif-8241843983633288133

[rose thorn]

Genuine amaizng model

AND he’s not a named guy

[spare osprey]

Their vibes are so fuckin immaculate

Love the stuff wolfdawg have done for em

[storm jungle]

Love thet chalice helm

[rocky gale]

Yea he's not named he's just a regular Ghoul King, they 100% should bring him back as the default Ghoul King model

[young pecan]

who cares

[storm jungle]

Not you dingus

[young pecan]

(I just got here Idk what's going on)

[storm jungle]

smh

also we were just mildly talking about Ghoulfucker models

and their exotic bone piercings : )

[outer wave]

He got mad drip despite being a ghoul

He got the pose too

[storm jungle]

*Despite being a ghooner

[outer wave]

LMAO

Ghooners and their Ghoon cave....

Thats a GW-tier name

[rocky gale]

Please...

[outer wave]

"Watch out, here comes the Ghoon Eadgers!"

[thick cedar]

How common is corpse starch?

[tough haven]

It’s kinda niche or rare

[rocky gale]

It's pretty uncommon last resort sorta thing

[tough haven]

It’s literally a “there’s literally nothing else to eat” thing

It’s just cannibalism but more appealing

[thick cedar]

Is there a source?

on the uncommon thing

[tough haven]

Not that I can remember off the top of my head but it’s not everywhere

[thick cedar]

Isnt it mostly used in Necromunda?

[rocky gale]

Necromunda is where it's most prevalent but it's more to do with the number of corpses they need to dispose of rather than they need to eat it

There's not a lot of source for it tbh

and most of the times it's mentioned is because it's the exceptional situation where it needs to be eaten which often gives people the idea that it is common

Because books and stories focus on exceptional circumstances rather than everyday life

[storm jungle]

^

Its mostly for people to wojak point at

other planets mostly eat equally shit food

[humble shoal]

agri world workers basically eat pesticides right

[storm jungle]

Again it depends

[humble shoal]

and the trex burgers

[young pecan]

Evil burga with a side of horror fries

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/3lcxjEc8CsQ

Oh shit Munda-Dwarf loredrop

[shell barn]

What is the actual likelihood of Mankind surviving if there was a 40K End Times and being the last faction standing

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/4l49hqa0Eio?si=V5Tq0J4qCwgNynRq

i dont think i've ever seen a corporal guardsman

or most of the officer ranks for that matter

also this is a commissar

[rocky gale]

Checkmate

[crystal forum]

is that rogue trader era lmao

a fucking bow and arrow to represent ranged unit??

[rocky gale]

Spacewar baby

[crystal forum]

also the video shows creed as the "lord general" rank

did they just shoehorn in the word general instead of castellan

also there's no mention if warmaster

[rocky gale]

Castellan is a Cadian only term

[crystal forum]

yes and he's cadian

[rocky gale]

Around Captain/Colonel

[crystal forum]

so he's a lord castellan

[rocky gale]

Yea but they're talking general Guard terms not Cadian specific terms

[crystal forum]

feels like larp to fit in IRL terms when 40k only uses like 4 ranks

[rocky gale]

and Lord Castellan is the Cadian version of Lord General

All of these ranks are used in 40k

[crystal forum]

i've seen colonel, i think some catachan guy

captain of course

lieutenant no

[rocky gale]

Witchbringer

and also Honourbound

[crystal forum]

books?

[rocky gale]

Yes

[crystal forum]

ah

[rocky gale]

Also Major

Were you talking about models?

[crystal forum]

still i like to believe there's barely any conformity in guard ranks because of regiments being different

[crystal forum]

partly, something consistent enough that you can make a lore video saying "this is how it generally works"

like we know for a fact what troopers and sergeants do thanks to tabletop

[rocky gale]

Unfortunately books exist

and as for models they can be whatever rank you want

I build Corporals in my Guard squads

[crystal forum]

we're talking official lore

[rocky gale]

Books are official lore

[crystal forum]

yes

my point however is if you're going to describe the rank structure of the militarum in broad sweeps then you shouldn't use the ranks which only appear in one offs

like we know that troopers, sergeants, castellan/general exist

there's a level of lore fidelity here

if say a large number of books mention lieutenants and they have generally the same stated jobs then yeah i'd say that's good lore to base on

[rocky gale]

From the 8th edition guard Codex

[crystal forum]

but writing this amount of information for something that's mostly just "captain america" level of title coolness, is larp and fan theory

[rocky gale]

Mentioning Colonels, Lieutenants and even 2nd Lieutenants

[crystal forum]

lieutenant here is used as function not a title

[rocky gale]

What?

[crystal forum]

"most experienced warrior" does not mean actual officer

[rocky gale]

Boy get your eyes tested

It consists of the most experianced warriors, led by a Lieutenant

2nd Platoon is then led by either a Lieutenant or 2nd Lieutenant

and 3rd Platoon is usually led by a newly commissioned 2nd Lieutenant

[crystal forum]

well interesting

so this is one of those imperial armour books i presume

[rocky gale]

No

Read

[rocky gale]

^

[crystal forum]

i see no mention of castellans despite this being cadians

old

[rocky gale]

You just can't read good

All the ranks they mention are things regularly mentioned in Guard novels, Corporal is probably the rarest one but it's also mentioned in books

[rocky gale]

Also Castellan is weird

A Castellan is also either a Captain or a Colonel

[crystal forum]

it means many things i know

only consistent thing about a castellan is it's a front line officer

[crystal forum]

i've read a couple and i dont see much standardization

it's just whatever officer rank sounds the coolest to the author and a bunch of grunts

i guess i'll have to read the vraks book to be sure

[crystal forum]

major goober in charge of 6 named character generic soldier rank

[humble shoal]

I mean the officer ranks for the moebians goes captain to colonel.....

[crystal forum]

i like it personally. i dont think 40k should be tied down to real life rank structure

since all this shit is made up and heavily western inspired

[sullen cape]

Castellan are a title not a rank, it basically like Guardian of something, Castellan of the Watch, or of Castellan of Cadia, though we know Creed was a General in his rank,

[humble shoal]

I'm moreso surprised that there are apparently only 2 3 officer ranks in a regiment....

[sullen cape]

if you want to draw it out Castellan are basically Major-Colonel in Ranking

[sullen cape]

where did you get that idea from?

[humble shoal]

in the moebian 6th, there are mentions of lietennents (not sure if rank or posiiton), captain, and colonel

no mentions of any other officer ranks

[sullen cape]

yeah i wouldn't be basing my 40k regimental chart of darktide,
i would probable go for-something like Guants ghost or Cain's trillogy, with Lesk serries thrown in, the only guard regiment where it down to 2 Officer's rank in a sense is last chances were you have the Colonel and the lieutenants.

as in most of the guard novel it basically goes from General -> Colonel-> Major->Captain-> lieutenants -> Sergents->Corperal->lance Jack.

very much similliar to most militaries for the last hundred years or so with title changes the structure still remian's the same replacing Colonel with High Marshal and General with Lord High Marhsal

[humble shoal]

I am fairly certain that there is no standardized regimental order

[plush mason]

iirc a regiment is lead by a colonel canonically, while generals have serveral regiments under their command

[sullen cape]

it depends as General Berket from Fall of Cadia held a Command of a Regiments

[plush mason]

hm

[sullen cape]

as in the shadow of the eigth (mina lesk novel), Isaia Bendikt - is in command of the 101, while Colonel spaker is commanding a Company really taking on the role of a major and while Colonel Sturm commands another company which take the places of major's

[opaque coyote]

What Chaos God would Konrad have eventually fallen to if he didn't uh

Fucking die

I'm thinking he would've eventually fallen towards Slaanesh due to the

Torture

And the fact that all of the Night Lords enjoy said torture

[sullen cape]

either Tenzeench or Slaanesh it really depends on which god sucked him up first, with Slaanesh leaning towards that toturing but remmeber he destroyed his own world to put it out of it suffuring and curroption while Tenzeech with the plots and forewarning and tormenting him in Dreams and possibilties.

[vagrant fox]

Clearly Khorne, justice cares not from whence the blood flows

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but Khorne doesn't like the fact that he often prolongs the punishment

[vagrant fox]

I mostly joke, the only one I can't really see is Nurgle

[opaque coyote]

... actually do you think Khorne is equivalent to like

A supremely invested American football fan

Like he even sits on a couch (throne) ffs

[celest dome]

Nuffle

[opaque coyote]

That's why he hates torture

It's essentially equivalent to a half time show for him

[celest dome]

There's a god for American Football

[opaque coyote]

With crappy pop music

"I DON'T WANT TO WATCH DAEMONETTE CHEERLEADERS. MY TEAM WAS ABOUT TO WIN!!!"

"SHUT THE FUCK UP MILEY CYRUS. I SHOULDN'T HAVE ALLOWED SLAANESH TO PULL YOUR SOUL BACK FROM THE IMMATERIUM."

[opaque coyote]

Khorne keeps him around as a friend

I always had the funny idea that

The Chaos Gods just see the Warp as a Suburban Neighborhood

They're roommates sharing a house

Forced to tolerate each other like it's a comedy sketch

[celest dome]

Oh no, Nuffle is the strongest Chaos God

[opaque coyote]

Slaanesh is just an androgynous person who constantly switches between masculine and feminine clothing. Annoying due to always flirting.

Khorne is a Gymbro that's into weightlifting and boxing. Has serious anger issues.

Nurgle is lazy and forgets to clean his room and do chores. But he's pleasant to be around and cooks a good meal.

Tzeentch is a Bird Dad who is basically an IT person hopped up purely on caffeine. His half asleep ramblings are nonsensical

[storm jungle]

Mankind would survive either way because we need to sell miniatures.

I know this is a copout answer but its the reality essentially

there ALWAYS needs to be grounds for peoples factions to infight/have them standing

a perfect limbo needs to exist

[vagrant fox]

Age of Neoth, why not

[storm jungle]

its why even post-WHF in AOS the rough outline of factions from Fantasy still exist

[opaque coyote]

Again, generally the best way to do a Post-Endtimes 40k is to just have the Imperium shatter

Into a bunch of different factions.

[storm jungle]

Yeah and it largely becoming a warlord state ala holy roman empire

its very much the imperium's eventual fate

with everyone having loyal, traitor or in-the-middle kingdoms/fiefdoms

[opaque coyote]

The T'au would also become more of a threat than just

Existing purely because the Imperium is being slapped around too much by other things

[storm jungle]

Yeah and the Emperor would just be a chaos god or some shit

and help humanity warp travel with the astronomicon through his own realm or something

again this is a setting built on excuses so toys can fight

they've done worse outrageous stuff

[opaque coyote]

Always thought that he should split into different facets

Like since the Emperor is inconsistent writing wise. Might as well make different "facets" of him.

Although that might be too repetitive towards the Chaos Gods

[storm jungle]

They'd probably make his will "unknowable" so that you can essentially homebrew what your imperial faction follows regarding his ideals etc

[opaque coyote]

"Oh boy, another fan of Krieg! I wonder if-"

Guy sets down SS styled Kriegers

[opaque coyote]

You could also say that

Due to the separate cultures different way of worshipping him. The Emperor basically has so many facets that there are essentially

Minor and Major shards

Similar to Daemons actually

Like due to being newly "formed" he hasn't coalesced yet

[storm jungle]

yeah again anything is likely

the idea is to

Let people still be able to play their armies

But also do their own thing

[opaque coyote]

Like I think the 50k fanfic had an interesting interpretation of a Chaos God Emps

Essentially a God of Order

Forcing people to walk straight lines until they die

His daemonplanets basically being fucking gold

[rose thorn]

Warhammer website is down

And I wanted to say sorry to the web team, I realize the new website isn’t that bad

[storm jungle]

they definitely "fixed" well enough of it

launch version was SO bad

[green loom]

Oh hey I know the artist he's nice

[rose thorn]

Because it wasn’t done lmao

ptsd

“Wow thsi sounds cool let’s see what it is :3”

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

They made it less awful

[rocky gale]

Which one?

Warcom or the store?

[arctic talon]

Store I’d assume

New warcom is fine

[rocky gale]

Yea new Warcom is fine, new store is still bad though

[charred jewel]

Question: does Jurgen, the weak-blank adjunctant of commissar Cain. Is he aware he’s a blank?

Also is he actually smelly and full of disease but is actually clean. Or is he just dirty and diseased but it’s 2x the effect on others because of being a blank

[arctic talon]

He’s pretty dirty normally but he isn’t diseased

And iirc he isn’t aware

Until much later

[charred jewel]

So like. The only explicit blank “powers” are going invisible. Like Jenetia Crole, and then the energy blast thing that culexus’s have. And they can’t do the thing unless they have their bodysuit-equipped. Right

Like a culexus unarmored can’t just throw a blank-ball at foes butt ass naked

[arctic talon]

Yeah the culexus orb is from their suit

For the sisters of silence they got some weird shit going on

[charred jewel]

Also. Besides sisters of silence/culexus. the list of blank characters across 40K is like:

a necromundan enforcer is a blank

A feral world-regiment in eisenhorn of guardsmen had an odd blank every 100k or something and got thrown at him and died

And the harlequin-focused inquisitor took a stillborn omega-minus (top level) blank fetus and killed grey knight pursuers with it

And…honor bound has the sector-command generals having some blank bodyguards.

there any like novels having non sisters of silence/culexus blanks in them?

[charred jewel]

They can do more stuff besides go invisible and make eldar get seizures?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[charred jewel]

What can they do?

[arctic talon]

The weird anti daemon fire shit

[charred jewel]

Oh. The like blue fire over their power swords right

[charred jewel]

Also, with Knight-commander pask, "knight commander" is like....a rank somewhere between captain and lieutenant colonel, right?

[arctic talon]

Fancy name for tank commander

[opaque coyote]

Honestly think that

Jurgen was neat early in his life

But everyone thought he smelled no matter how much he cleaned himself

Used perfume

Etc.

Due to the fact that he is a blank.

So he kinda just

Gave up

Apparently according to the Sister of Silence. Jurgen is actually quite the looker.

It's just the Blank Aura making him look uglier and stinkier than he is.

[paper haven]

Poor bastard

[tough haven]

wait it actually affects that?

I thought it just gave people a sense of them being unnatural or wrong or causing them unease, making them hated

[charred jewel]

They’re like psykers. Their power ranks. Weak blanks like jurgen just give off something making people dislike them for no reason and interfere with psykers to an extent. Stronger ones make unreasonable hatred, strongest ones go invisible and are difficult for regular/psykers to even directly see and make eldar/psykers instantly go into seizure

[tough haven]

Yeah but does it legitimately make people percieve them as worse looking? cause that sounds goofy

[opaque coyote]

Yeah pretty much

So who knows

Maybe some ugly people are just blanks

Jokes aside, it's kinda makes sense if you think about how like

[charred jewel]

In the ephrael stern comic. She and her harlequin buddy get cornered in the jungle by a culexus

[opaque coyote]

Stronger blanks just make people instantly homicidal

[charred jewel]

The harlequin instantly foams at the mouth and passes out. And also: living saints are even effected by strong blanks

Although. The blank should not kiss them

[opaque coyote]

It isn't a definite thing

Tbh I think it's just like

A rationalization of the brain

[charred jewel]

Also stern was feeling intense pain and her powers weakened out

[opaque coyote]

"Man this guy makes me feel off"

"He must just smell bad then"

That type of thing

Or

"He's just ugly"

Y'know?

[charred jewel]

I wish darktide would add blanks as a class

Or games period had them around

[opaque coyote]

Honestly would be cool but I think only higher level blanks can actually use their

Aura

Low to mid tier blanks just

Have people hate them

Like you need to be a sister of silence level to actually start using it

95% of the time it's just

An aura that makes people fucking hate you

And also makes Daemons in pain/die

[charred jewel]

You know what pisses me off

People nonstop making autoguns not caseless. And having the shells pop out of the gun

Even darktide has the auto-guns just be normal

😾

[opaque coyote]

To be honest auto guns are more like

[charred jewel]

Autoguns are CASELESS

[opaque coyote]

A catch all term for

"Gun that shoot bullet"

[charred jewel]

CASELESS! CASELESS! stubber is NORMAL GUN. Autogun is CASELESS!

[opaque coyote]

So something like an AK-47 is technically an autogun

[charred jewel]

Unacceptable. It’s scrappy/trash stubber

[opaque coyote]

Besides I think GW even forgot that little detail

Also the fact that case less ammo kinda sucks

Especially in tougher terrain which the Imperium

Like

The average hive city would count as tough terrain

I think they just added that tidbit thinking it was cool and nobody bothered to change it

...

Or remember it

[opaque coyote]

Also the fact that even Xenos have autoguns

[charred jewel]

Yeah they use caseless too

[opaque coyote]

Yeah so I think that in general GW just

[charred jewel]

😾

[opaque coyote]

Threw that detail away

And forgot about it

[charred jewel]

Rage

[opaque coyote]

Also the fact that case less ammo sucks

[opaque coyote]

Just assume that we managed to get Autoguns that don't use case less ammo

And they're called Autoguns because the administratium cannot be bothered to change it's classification

[charred jewel]

This is the headcanon copium I consume to not write angry emails to GW

[opaque coyote]

Tbf if every autogun was caseless

Uhh

Then that's probably the reason why most stick to the lasgun

Because the Autoguns would have heat malfunctions all the time

[charred jewel]

Just wave it away with: they used superior technology. They use a piece of adamantium and it never heats up anymore

The plasteel receiver hitchbacks to the corrrileium adamantium hyper-ejector, achieving singularity with the piston-aquilarius. Thus stopping any heating

[raven stone]

Well, logistics issues alone would make Lasguns more viable

You don’t need to worry about an entire regiment’s worth of Autogun ammo being lost in the warp

And Lasgun batteries just need light or heat to recharge

[crystal forum]

it doesn't

most of the issues of early caseless ammo have been fixed because it's been more than 40 years

this isn't even speaking about the fact that 40k is 40 thousand years in the future

the reason caseless ammo isn't used is the same reason cheap drones havent been used in combat before current situations. military procurement is far from being efficient

also technically caseless ammunition is currently being used by armed forces around the world at this very moment. internal propellant caseless ammunition doesn't use the G11 style propellant casing yet it fits every definition of being caseless.

VOG-25 grenade is a caseless ammunition

also whatever the fuck this is for some obscure russian machine pistol

[hallow plover]

Gotta love russian military tech

[charred jewel]

I wish I could start a military arms company

Here in Puerto Rico

[crystal forum]

they'll invent the fucking AN-94 and issue their troops with guns from the 70's. it so interesting

[hallow plover]

An-94 is costly to manufacture tho i think

[crystal forum]

it is but like it's one of the coolest guns ever made

[hallow plover]

Great weapon

[charred jewel]

I think after Russia wins in Ukraine. Which it seems on track for when billionaire Orange takes office. The mass corruption and incompetence of the Russian army should. Go down. By like 15-25% when they invade Moldova or another small former Soviet country

[hallow plover]

Is the ak-74 still the main issued rifle?

[charred jewel]

Didn’t they switch to AK-12s

[crystal forum]

ak-103 i think?

[charred jewel]

I don’t like the look of the AK-12. I like seeing that wood around guns. Or the brown

All black tacti-cool with the fucking

[crystal forum]

who the fuck knows at this point. some russians are using mosins

[hallow plover]

You're in the age of polymer

[charred jewel]

Pitcanny rails

I hate pitcanny rails

They’re ugly

“tHeY LeT mE pUt AtTaChMeNtS”

They’re ugly!

[crystal forum]

i do enjoy me some slick 60's guns like the classic m16

[hallow plover]

More rails = more attachment you can buy to fund the machine

[crystal forum]

i saw an image recently

[charred jewel]

I miss in the early 2000s when everyone called M16s M16s. Instead of “AR-15” they’ve become obsessed using

[crystal forum]

reading up on the C7 rifle

which a surprising amount of special forces use

like why

[hallow plover]

Its cheap and reliable

Inwould guess

[charred jewel]

…you know it just hit me

[crystal forum]

it's literally just an M4

[hallow plover]

Well, canadian military uses old shit

[charred jewel]

Doesn’t the accatran. Recon lasgun kind of look like the L85?

[hallow plover]

It's single shot only

[charred jewel]

The British rifle that I’ve heard people shit on worldwide

[hallow plover]

C8 is the auto version I think

[crystal forum]

or m16a4 i guess

all the same shit

anyways image

[charred jewel]

Like the stalker games made it the worst gun every game

[crystal forum]

royal danish navy drilling

[hallow plover]

It's a variant of the m4 platform made by colt

[crystal forum]

what the fuck are all these attachments for

the guy on the right looks like he's holding a sci fi railgun

[crystal forum]

so many cables

[hallow plover]

Based l85

With mags dropping by themselves

[crystal forum]

colt already makes the M4

[charred jewel]

That’s a thing?

[hallow plover]

It was on the first version if im not mistaken

[crystal forum]

what im wondering is why special forces use the C8

[hallow plover]

Got fixed eventually

[opaque coyote]

I think that's just the platform name.

The M16 is still called the M16

[hallow plover]

The gun was all bulky metal and pieces fitted loosely

[crystal forum]

the platform is the AR-15

M16 is the military designation

[hallow plover]

Shoutout to the 1911 still used 40000 years later

[crystal forum]

M4 is the shitty abomination colt got adopted in a very shady manner

[arctic talon]

M4 is sussy

[crystal forum]

not by american institutions apart from some bumfuck police departments

i will die on the hill that 45acp sucks ass

[hallow plover]

I meant in 40k

[arctic talon]

Lol

[hallow plover]

"Stub pistol"

https://preview.redd.it/even-in-the-far-future-you-cant-escape-the-1911-v0-y2pqxy34rqkb1.png?auto=webp&s=0d03f68edbc13029908fc6a11a5dacc3c24dd11c

[arctic talon]

How so

[hallow plover]

Your grandfather used it to kill facists and your descendant will use it in 40000 years to kill heretics

[crystal forum]

almost every american institution which uses guns has made numerous analysis and tests, every one of them has concluded that 9mm is better for numerous reasons

FBI in particular

stopping power is a myth which has been proven to be bullshit

[hallow plover]

.45 is subsonic 🙂

[crystal forum]

FBI even made their own 10mm ammo for a while until they realized 9mm just wins

and then fallout was created

[crystal forum]

that must be very helpful when you're shooting somebody

[arctic talon]

I c

[crystal forum]

can't risk hurting their ears

[arctic talon]

Well in any case I own a Glock lol

So not like I’m using .45

[crystal forum]

aren't there 45 caliber glocks

i wish i lived in a world where i could own a glock 18c

[hallow plover]

Can't even aquire a pistol in canada anymore 😪. I would have liked to try some range shooting with one

[crystal forum]

you can own black powder pistols

so hey

[hallow plover]

[crystal forum]

let's get scurvious up in here

[hallow plover]

We're not in 1604 anymore

[crystal forum]

i dont even know if they banned black powder revolvers yet

but they used to have their own legal definition

[arctic talon]

Maybe? Idfk

[crystal forum]

can't follow canadian gun laws because it all gets swept away one day anyways

[hallow plover]

They're just banning guns related to the latest shooting each time

[crystal forum]

meanwhile one of my coworkers tells me he bought a full auto uzi in the 90's from some black market guy

[hallow plover]

Its weird because it's always specific models and they forget a ton of others

[crystal forum]

i love when they banned every ar-15

but instead of you know just saying any ar-15 platform

they list every fucking ar-15 ever conceived

[hallow plover]

Not that hard to get a gun illegally I think....

Every gang members have them

[crystal forum]

then you look at the list and they take the time to mention shit like the actual military scar-H

like mf that shit was illegal before i was born

they're so dumb

all they have to do is create classifications instead of playing wack a mole

but that would require a level of brainpower which is not required for getting voter points

[hallow plover]

Tbh they shoukd just ban en masse most of every non-hunting firearms if they truly want to fix the people shooting people problem

Anyways, anyone really wanting to commit a crime with a firearm will find a way to acquire one

[crystal forum]

especially when we border the US

[arctic talon]

Plenty of shit from the US lol

[hallow plover]

Our gov is desperate and incompetent lol

[crystal forum]

most illegal canadian weapons come from the most obvious fucking location

[arctic talon]

It’s like Mexico

A majority of illegal firearms are from the US lol

[crystal forum]

unlike mexico our border is barely patrolled

especially not going outside the US

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[hallow plover]

I'm pretty sure a large portion comes from the US through the reserves

[arctic talon]

It’s just

Through whatever lol

Border security between Canada and the US is absurdly light

[crystal forum]

the canadian US border is the longest continuous border in the world

[hallow plover]

Its going to change thanks to orange man

[arctic talon]

💀

[crystal forum]

he wont change shit

[arctic talon]

He’s making a joke

About the US invading Canada

[charred jewel]

Bigger bullet = MORE DAMAGE!

This post was approved by kickback-gang

[hallow plover]

Well, the PM is already grovelling and getting bullied into unlocking budget for the borders

[crystal forum]

the funny thing is trudeau, ass kissing as he usually does, bought extra border security drones to appease the whole tariffs thing. so in the end at least we're securing ourselves from american guns a bit

[charred jewel]

I once got into a fight with a guy over running on the street who resembled Trudeau to a T

[arctic talon]

100% tariffs will be incredibly funny for me for all of 5 seconds before it causes me horrific issues

[crystal forum]

we're just the world's bitch, can't forget it ever

[hallow plover]

Not the world's

[charred jewel]

You ever see when he was questioned by a conservative MP over where his donation money went. And was asked where the money went directly. 15+ times and he just refused to say where the 200k went

[arctic talon]

North americas lol

[hallow plover]

Just the US and China

[crystal forum]

india, recently

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah China has a bunch of real estate investments and it’s like totally fucked isn’t it lol

[crystal forum]

oh and

all the fucking foreign oil companies

south koreans

[hallow plover]

On the west coast provinces

[arctic talon]

Good investments lul

[hallow plover]

And they get all their resources here with their workers

[arctic talon]

All your land is belong to Chaebols and Chinese companies

[crystal forum]

mostly american companies still

[arctic talon]

Is it?

Guh

Makes sense

[crystal forum]

everything gets bought by americans eventually

[hallow plover]

Tbh sometimes I just want to exile myself deep in the north.

[crystal forum]

oh ALSO

we're sweden's bitch now

[hallow plover]

[crystal forum]

for investing in their shitty company

[hallow plover]

It's not that much

[crystal forum]

lord forbid our government finds canadian companies

[hallow plover]

Only 800mil down the drain

[arctic talon]

The Canadian government loves sabotaging their own companies

From what I’ve learned from reading contemporary Canadian history

[hallow plover]

Yes

The best investment advice is: if the government gets involved; dump everything

[crystal forum]

guess why every entrepreneur has the end goal of selling their company to the US

the company i work at did that for a british company

[arctic talon]

So uh

Nortel amiright

[hallow plover]

No.

[crystal forum]

south korea fucking us in the ass

[hallow plover]

Let's forget

Tfw quebec's motto on car plates is "I remember"

Then we elect the same corrupt guys from 20 years ago

[arctic talon]

Which chaebol lol

[charred jewel]

https://youtu.be/8bGVNPw9R8o?si=6Avo-wncWe5wO6IG

[arctic talon]

South Korea is literally a cyberpunk dystopia already

All we’re missing is the transhumanism

[crystal forum]

poilievre is a piece of shit dont be fooled

[arctic talon]

And I guess corporate death squads

[charred jewel]

Samsungia

[crystal forum]

he's a moron

[arctic talon]

Nah, it’s like multiple chaebols lol

[hallow plover]

They're all horrible

[arctic talon]

Samsung is just the biggest one

[crystal forum]

and has 0 policy ideas he just shits on trudeau

[dapper gyro]

Ah, good old Canadian politic...

[arctic talon]

Politicans being universally shit

[crystal forum]

somehow SOMEHOW i now miss otoole

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah have you guys seen the Taiwanese parliament fighting

Shits hilarious

[charred jewel]

Yes but at that moment of time of 5 minutes he wasn’t the piece of shit

[crystal forum]

poilievre is so fucking stupid

[arctic talon]

No more water bottles are allowed inside

And the chairs are all bolted down now

[hallow plover]

Trudeau is weak; Poilievre is just bullying T; Jagmeet is petty af

[dapper gyro]

Go back hating on some obscure 40k shit instead of real life shit.

[crystal forum]

jagmeet was not a good choice by the NDP wtf were they thinking

now of all times would have been a perfect time for NDP to murder liberals and become the leading party

[arctic talon]

Pre chair bolting

https://youtu.be/kXmPDLRt6hA?si=hwS-qlR2xRcRu6Rb

[hallow plover]

They were panicked because Layton died

[dapper gyro]

Ok, the Tifa and Italy thing is the only political thing allowed.

[crystal forum]

anyways i'll just for for BQ like usual because in my area voting for anything else is a waste and conservatives will win anyways

[arctic talon]

I hope people aren’t weird about these minis

[hallow plover]

At least BQ is defending quebec's interests

[dapper gyro]

Mtl?

[crystal forum]

BQ is the only party that somewhat supports palestine which is good to me

[crystal forum]

i dont think montrealers vote BQ lol

those fuckers hate it

[hallow plover]

Montreal is a cesspool

[charred jewel]

Um. What are they?

[crystal forum]

they'd make montreal part of ontario if they could

fuckers have 0 love of the culture

[dapper gyro]

Fk no

[arctic talon]

Necromunda noble house

[hallow plover]

Depends on which part of mtl you're in

[charred jewel]

Do you think Kevin O’Leary would’ve made a good prime minister

[dapper gyro]

Montreal will never agree to go with Ontario due to the rivalty with Toronto.

[charred jewel]

Is that a force staff or like.

Woman put your SHOES on

[crystal forum]

i have never seen nor heard of a rivalry

[dapper gyro]

Any big city is a cesspoool.

[charred jewel]

It’s necromunda you don’t want to put your soles anywhere there

[charred jewel]

I expressively hate New York City

[crystal forum]

i love going to montreal and being told by a fucking frenchman immigrant that my french isn't correct

[hallow plover]

I hate montreal with a passion ||yet i'm stuck living there||

[charred jewel]

I love places with large community kinship and loyalty. You could be bleeding to death in NYC and people would would step all over you. Such a selfish. Immoral and decadent city

[crystal forum]

no guy, fuck you, my french is correct

[hallow plover]

He's just being a dick

[crystal forum]

also go back to france if you hate this place so much

[hallow plover]

Ok an actual french from france

[crystal forum]

yeah

assholes man

[hallow plover]

Bro, i see anyone at least trying to speak french and that's good enough

[charred jewel]

I believe more often than not I’ve gotten along with Spaniards

[hallow plover]

then I go to westmount and no one understands french

[arctic talon]

Yeah it’s a force staff, it’s a sanctioned psyker and a blank

The noble house has a high number of both for some reason

Don’t ask why or how

[charred jewel]

There is this one looksmaxxer Spaniard in New England I fucking despise. BrendioEEE. Jesus Christ I fucking hate that guy. I’d kick his ass

[crystal forum]

for some reason west montreal island is mostly anglophones who really want you to believe they're francophones

[charred jewel]

….lame

Completely lame

[hallow plover]

Those models looks great. Are they of some specific house?

[charred jewel]

You can’t have high amounts of psykers and blanks in the same house. Lame. Don’t like it

[arctic talon]

I mean they can, the psykers and blanks all wear collars lol

As for how genetically Idfk

Psykers aren’t a gene thing

[charred jewel]

Nah I mean like

[arctic talon]

2 psykers don’t make a Psyker baby

The blanks make more sense

Since that is genetic

[charred jewel]

Just. Like. As a build up. It’s just like

I don’t like the build of the noble house bro. It’s…lame. Not cool, not like “ohhh this is a faction I’d paint mini’s for”

[arctic talon]

Noble house Ty Onmyodo

[charred jewel]

Nothing indicates the blank one is the blank besides the robe being slightly black

[arctic talon]

I mean

Blanks don’t have anything that indicate their appearance

[charred jewel]

I’ll give you a better idea for a noble house right here: noble house Exploisancious

Everyone wears a suicide vest and they all use grenade launchers and like blowing shit up

[arctic talon]

Wdym lol

This noble house literally has existed in munda 2e since the start

They’ve just never had minis lol

Or a clearly defined appearance

[charred jewel]

See. This is interesting. I guarantee you elite if I worked at GW this. And my grenade-sandal, grenade jeans and grenade straw hat noble house was a thing. It’d be epic

And sell loads of models and codex’s

[charred jewel]

The appearance it’s just like…the psyker-theme was already covered by the bald house. What’s it called

You know with the matrix goggles

[arctic talon]

It’s a noble house

Delaque aren’t a noble house

[charred jewel]

…yeah but like

[arctic talon]

Delaque is a clan house

But like what

[charred jewel]

You know. Big org on necromunda. With models and shit. The theme being, they wear togas and they’re half psykers half blank

[arctic talon]

Delaque don’t have blanks

[charred jewel]

No I mean this noble house

[arctic talon]

Well yeah

We’re seeing 2 lower ranking members of the house

They’re prolly going to get actual art when the supplement book is out

But it looks like munda is finally fleshing out the noble houses

[charred jewel]

Still it’s just like….half blank half psyker. That’s wattpad-tier fanfiction

[arctic talon]

It’s not half blank and half psykers

It’s just that the house has a lot of blanks and psykers

[arctic talon]

House Escher and House Goliath

[charred jewel]

Yea. On average you get 1 blank per billion. Necromunda has 110 billion. It should have like. 1 blank

[arctic talon]

I mean blanks reproducing with blanks makes more blanks

So like

They could just be inbred lol

[charred jewel]

HOUSE ESCHER AND HOUSE GOLIATH ARE EXTREMELY COMPLEX AND INTRICATE HOUSES

[arctic talon]

[charred jewel]

It took a MASTERMIND of GW-writers to make those works of art

[arctic talon]

You say that like if you’re being extremely reductive they’re very interesting ideas that don’t sound cringe

Except Escher and Goliath both absolutely sound cringe on paper lol

[charred jewel]

You know straight up elite I’m not familiar using the word reductive. But like I wasn’t being sarcastic I genuinely like them both and like how they fit on the lore and their aesthetic

[arctic talon]

No but I’m saying you’re being reductive with the noble house for no reason

And you’re taking it at face value

Idk

[charred jewel]

“Glam women druggies and muscle-dumbasses” brilliant. I love it

[charred jewel]

Bro I read “has a large number of psykers and blanks” and it killed it. It’s like hearing: the space marine ran 30 miles per hour in an incredible sprint, it’s wrong. Don’t like it

Space marine sprint is 90 miles per hour

Or something else really fast and scary looking. 30 is a golf cart

[arctic talon]

Ykw nvm I don’t care to engage in this anymore

[charred jewel]

Okay. Goodnight elite

[celest dome]

Wonder if we would ever see Nobles of the Gang houses.
Like the real Noble acting in the same manner as those Envoy do

[opaque coyote]

Car

Also as a question

What can Flak Armor block exactly

Like what's the limit before it just

Doesn't fucking work

[arctic talon]

Autogun shots, a lasgun shot

A drukhari shard carbine shot

Though that one is to your detriment

[opaque coyote]

Would it block the shot and just leave you bruised and winded

Or would it go through and uh

Leave you in complete agony

[arctic talon]

No it fucking shatters on impact

[opaque coyote]

Oh.

[arctic talon]

And the tiny shards are extremely good at getting through armor

[opaque coyote]

Lemme guess the shards get into your skin and it causes immense amount of pain

[arctic talon]

Then you get the horrific poison

Flak armor can block shrapnel

[opaque coyote]

Dark Eldar moment

[arctic talon]

It can block basic weaponry

Ect.

Like you can prolly catch some sniper shots with flak armor

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I was thinking of it basically acting similar to kevlar

[arctic talon]

It’s like irl body armor but better

[opaque coyote]

Oh, well that's impressive. Probably would knock you back a lot though

[arctic talon]

I know that’s like a no shit thing

But like it’s better then irl armor generally for not dying

It doesn’t get ruined by catching a few autogun shots

Though it prolly would get damaged by lasgun fire

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I thought of like

A Guardsman catching a few autogun bullets to their flak

And getting bruised and winded but not

Fucking dead

Which, I have heard, that death isn't a state that people want to be in

[opaque coyote]

I know this is annoying but

What about Carapace?

I know Darktide has Carapace basically block a fuck ton of shots

[arctic talon]

Carapace can eat lasgun fire

Carapace in lore is extremely protective

Hell you’ll prolly live a bolter shot in it

The armor will be ruined but you’ll live

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I guess Darktide is fairly accurate in how much the Carapace Ogyrn fucking eats autogun fire then

[arctic talon]

Tbh

The gunners should also have carapace lore wise lol

They’re storm troopers

The depiction of carapace in Darktide is generally accurate except to melee

[opaque coyote]

True

But they probably don't because then Auric would probably be a lot harder

[arctic talon]

Lol

[opaque coyote]

So basically

Flak is the weakest
Then Carapace
Then Power Armor

[arctic talon]

Weakest is prolly mesh armor or body gloves

Then flak and carapace have varying quality and types

And then power armor

[storm jungle]

I just got done reading the necromunda "argument" above and im so lost

[opaque coyote]

Looked up the Imperium version on Lexicanium.

Apparently offers more protection than flak

[arctic talon]

That is

Not true lmao

[opaque coyote]

No wait they just copied the Eldar version of Mesh

Like almost word for word nvm

[storm jungle]

yeah unoriginal writers moment

lol

[arctic talon]

Oh wait

It’s talking about the eldar one

For some reason

Nah mesh is shittier then flak lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the (Imperium) version is just the Eldar One in the Lexicanium article

💀

[storm jungle]

Yeah mesh is literally mid-protection flexible armor

[opaque coyote]

So basically

Imperium version Mesh more flexible than Flak

Less protective

[storm jungle]

flak is literally just plates so yes

[opaque coyote]

Is there even any pictures

...

That is literally just a picture from fallout new vegas

[storm jungle]

What, flak or mesh

[arctic talon]

Mesh

It’s from a fanfic wiki

[storm jungle]

its in Maledictum i think

[opaque coyote]

Apparently the Imperium literally just

Stole the Eldar's homework and just made a shittier version of their mesh

That is funny

[storm jungle]

Well yeah, you cant really copy Eldar tech

its literally half-magic half-xenotech

[arctic talon]

Mesh is in malidictum

And it’s honestly not great

[storm jungle]

literally just padded/scale armor

[opaque coyote]

Thank you Dilara

[storm jungle]

almost like, some sort of Mesh™️

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

It’s super expensive lol

Stats of armor

Excluding power armor

Because you’re never affording it lmao

[opaque coyote]

So basically slightly less protective compared to Flak but much more flexible

Cool

[arctic talon]

You can only get high quality mesh in game

[opaque coyote]

Oh no wait that's the Xeno's version

[arctic talon]

As in high quality human stuff for mesh

Really cheap mesh is relegated to npcs

[opaque coyote]

Makes sense.

[arctic talon]

And it’s armor 1

[opaque coyote]

Oh

💀

[arctic talon]

Having cheap mesh for PCs is worthless

From a game design standpoint

[opaque coyote]

Yeah nah you might as well wear a trash can it might be more protective

[arctic talon]

Just flavor it

[arctic talon]

Robes moment

Being naked with certain perks

Lol

The naked zealot build is viable

Do I recommend it? Fuck no

Is it funny? Yes

[opaque coyote]

Imagine being a ganger

You're patrolling the area as your job

And then you see a naked fuck sprint at you. Screaming prayers while shooting at you.

...

Actually that'd also be the same feeling for a lot of dark souls enemies and bosses

[arctic talon]

Now granted you don’t need to actually be naked for the build

Technically

[opaque coyote]

"THE EMPEROR DEMANDS THAT ALL OF HIS ACOLYTES STRIP. BARE WITNESS TO THE PURITY OF THE HUMAN FORM FILTHY XENOS!"

[arctic talon]

xenos

Lol

Lmao

Most xenos in maladictum will murder you

[opaque coyote]

True.

But will they ever forget it.

never

[arctic talon]

LOL

The kabalite might like it

[opaque coyote]

NVM clothes back on

[arctic talon]

But maladictum is great for how low level it is

[opaque coyote]

Huh a d100 system

[arctic talon]

You are just some random fucking person

[fallen marsh]

Even group of gangers will be painfull in Imperium Maledictum. Like in DH1

[storm jungle]

way too real

[arctic talon]

Ngl a group of gangers is scarier in maledictim then dh1 due to how swingy combat is

[fallen marsh]

Idk really. I am 9 sessions in campaign and we had only 1 short fight. So I can't compare it.

But I will agree that its potentialy more painfull because of melee changes

[arctic talon]

Fair enough

[thick cedar]

Has the imperium ever come close to what humanity had during the dark age of tech

[storm jungle]

no

and they never will essentially

thats sorta the point

[arctic talon]

Never

[forest orbit]

Nope

[queen laurel]

Nah

[crystal forum]

the closest was during the height of the great crusades but you have to keep in mind that "close" just means they salvaged enough dark age stuff to be able to field it regularly

by definition the imperium will always have inferior tech to the dark age since they can only reuse and repurpose what was already created

other than a few exceptions like cawl but i think it's implied even he just reverse engineers stuff

[green loom]

The way it works for him is he literally builds a fascimile and guess works his way through making something vaguely similar to the actual STCs

[tight stratus]

""Ogryns develop an unshakable and almost childlike faith in the Emperor, seeing Him as watching over their every action on the battlefield.[4b] Each order they receive is viewed as having worked its way down the hierarchy from the Emperor, and is followed without question and to the best of their ability."

this untentionally teaching me that ISNT how the imperium ever works

Ahhh learning basic level shit unintentionally as a 40k newbie

[storm jungle]

the "needs citation" bit is great lol

[rose thorn]

It’s my favorite thing on the lex

[paper haven]

Maledictum? Is that some sort of game?

[charred jewel]

Are they? They seem just kind of like specialists. Considering they’re using hotshot-volley guns instead of regular hotshot guns

[queen laurel]

It's a table top game yes

[paper haven]

Huh

Any good?

[queen laurel]

I have no personal experience in the games but from what i hear it's fun

[charred jewel]

It’s a point up to the flak parts. It’s better than flak!

[charred jewel]

The veteran bodyguards of house greim’s krieg mesters wear mesh armor

Also aside from the leaders who upgrade to carapace-versions of their radiation suit. Even the lowest ranking van sarr’s radiation suits are all mesh

[dusk patrol]

Feral Ogryns are scary? Urm, source?

[celest dome]

Birmingham

[tough haven]

There are no sources, there’s never been a survivor

[queen laurel]

Let's be honest if you experiment on Grimgor and made him live in Birmingham he would no diff archeon even with the sword

[arctic talon]

They’re stormtroopers

They have hotshot weaponry

[small grail]

one of the strongest nurgle creation as far as ive seen is like The Prisoner

[median star]

honestly id be fine w giving them the rager treatment and making their chest cara only if they make it like a 4-1 dreg to scab spawn

[charred jewel]

I mean like. The imperial guard has heavy bolters. Veterans can be equipped with the odd bolter. Death Korps of Krieg have hotshot weapons for for NCOs/officers. so like. Having hotshot volley guns for specialist-equipment doesn’t seem far off

[arctic talon]

They’re likely stormtroopers due to the fact they have what looks like carapace armor, are physically larger, and have hotshot weapons

[dusk patrol]

Prisoner from the Emerald Cave* smh

Some respect to its stinky name

[small grail]

i know but i call him The Prisoner

[small grail]

i mean it took 300 grey knights to seal him

[dusk patrol]

More than that

But yeah he’s wild

[small grail]

h-how many more than 300

[dusk patrol]

I mean it was more than just the GKs

[small grail]

oh then ok

but is there anything stronger than him?

[small grail]

i wudve lost it if u said it took like nearly 700 GK's or somethin

[dusk patrol]

Idk

They had to shoot him with a piece of the emperors armor and slice him open with an athame to banish him

[small grail]

that is.....horrifying

basically was so overpowered and diseased that they needed emperors power to incapacitate

jesus

was he like a regular dude before he became what he is or was he just like a creation of nurgle

[queen laurel]

He's probably the most gifted space marine

Or blessed

Like Nurgle likes this guy's so much that they just had to seal him because destroying him would make him angry

[small grail]

it took a piece of the emperors armor to dmg him i feel hed destroy the imperium if they didnt use it

[storm jungle]

Its 40k

he'd get defeated by something else

this universe literally works on WWE logic

[spare osprey]

I adore 40k writers

[storm jungle]

Literally lmao

[rocky gale]

I don't know much about Orruks but did they actually get any new models with their Battletome?