#40k-lore-chat

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plush mason
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wtf where they expecting? a happy ending?

pine wedge
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Movies that ended so bleakly simply didn't exist back then

dusk patrol
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It’s also pretty gorey and disturbing and that wasn’t as common

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Movies that were, especially horror, were seen as stuff for teens or whatever. Edgy stuff which wasn’t real cinema a lot of times.

plush mason
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lmao

storm jungle
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It still is a great showcase of how critics dont really get movies

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even back then lol

plush mason
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true

storm jungle
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"I hated it because it was disgusting!"

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okay bring a paperbag next time lmao

storm jungle
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the ending of the Mist fucking ruined me as a kid

plush mason
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and everyone in the grocery store deserved to die

storm jungle
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LMFAO

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I mean a bit harsh but not wrong staregryn

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i think my favorite part was even Steven King was like

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"Okay wow thats so much better than my ending"

plush mason
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the bad thing is they fucking lived and where saved

storm jungle
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yeah but thats life

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not everyone really gets their comeuppance

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fuckups are just a way of it

plush mason
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yeah true

storm jungle
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im glad they killed that religious cunt before they left at least

acoustic rock
storm jungle
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I mean

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if they deserve it perhaps

queen laurel
storm jungle
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but also yeah most of the store was scared villagers essentially

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its how that bitch could rile them up with christian allegories lol

acoustic rock
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Jezebel witch

plush mason
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yeah and idc, if you allow yourself to become a cultist and try to kill a kid becuase some loudmouth bitch tells you too you are better off just fallin on your own knife

storm jungle
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Yeah thats fair enough

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its more clear social commentary than half the stuff in 40k books lol

acoustic rock
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Man, if someone lied to me, manipulated me, I would just know it was a lie and do my own thing EZ chadgryn

plush mason
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tbf she wasnt lying in this case, just playing on their fears in the face of literal monsters

acoustic rock
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Nah she was definitely lying

storm jungle
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She was yeah, she was just lucky about coincidental events

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its literally how people back in teh day used religion to manipulate the masses

plush mason
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its the classic case of "oh wow monsters from another world/hell itself are attacking, lets turn on each other for idiotic idealogical reasons"

storm jungle
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To be fair

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its not far from real life

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look at covid

plush mason
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its exactly like real life

storm jungle
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Yeah people always go "id never do that"

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you would

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lol

queen laurel
storm jungle
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pretty much

acoustic rock
plush mason
acoustic rock
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Realistically, after the army swept through and presumably purged the infestation, I'm sure a lot of people did.
Trauma be like that

plush mason
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true

storm jungle
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I know I would lol

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im trying to keep a mature perspective but i dont really blame anyone for saying the prior

queen laurel
storm jungle
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^

scenic bolt
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(THE REAL MONSTERS ARE HUMANS HUEHUEHUE)

acoustic rock
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I might feel that way if you put me in extrenuating circumstances where I'm stressed to the point of my own insanity.
But sitting here now, in a calm state, I feel like they don't deserve to die

plush mason
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they killed that army grunt and called him a Judus

scenic bolt
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and the person next to you is having a religious epiphany to live out their worst fantasy

plush mason
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and they where going to kill again

acoustic rock
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Yeah that was crazy

plush mason
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they where crazy

acoustic rock
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yeah, driven mad by fear

plush mason
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and realistically the loudmouth zealot bitch should have been the first person they threw to the mists

acoustic rock
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agreed

lofty mason
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How does the Imperium manage its large armed force? Like do armies of each worlds act independently?

acoustic rock
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Most imperial planets with sufficient population have their own planetary defence force (PDF)

storm jungle
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Every imperial guard regiment taken from a world into the Guard obeys that institution

scenic bolt
storm jungle
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like lets say you got a regiment of Kurskan Grenadiers from the planet of Kurksa or some shit, you form that regiment, give it to the Imperial Tithe system and they find a use for it

acoustic rock
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It's not like every planet has a guard regiment like Cadia or whatever

storm jungle
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Yeah only the semi well-developed ones do

plush mason
storm jungle
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that makes it a part of their tithe

storm jungle
acoustic rock
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tfw the moebian 6th were part of the 0.1% who did

plush mason
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yup

storm jungle
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Yeah Dukane acknowledges this

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and outright says "this is stupid why did you never rotate them out of the Domain to other warzones"

queen laurel
storm jungle
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but the Moebians got the excuse with the Fringe

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and their space of.... well space, always being under threat

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which is a really good reasoning narratively lol

storm jungle
plush mason
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isnt she leading a mobian regiment in a similar situation?

acoustic rock
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Was gunna say, isnt there an instance of an ogryn ripping a space marine in half?

storm jungle
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Yep the Steelheads

storm jungle
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they just lack the smarts

queen laurel
plush mason
acoustic rock
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Seems like an exception lol, like, you wouldn't say that's within the capabilities of Ogryn in general

storm jungle
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They kinda would be

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agian ogryns are as strong as space marines

plush mason
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literally just ripped them apart after missing all his shots with his ripper gun lol

storm jungle
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its just another "it depedns" situation lol

queen laurel
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Yeah nork also doesn't have like physical implants like i said

storm jungle
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like how a world eater just punches a custodian through his armor

queen laurel
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Physically speaking he's just an ogryn that's made to be special

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Name wise

acoustic rock
plush mason
queen laurel
acoustic rock
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"World Eaters can barefist reverse-chestburst armoured custodes, that's been shown and is canon loregryn "

queen laurel
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nork falls into the former category

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Like he is basically like a benchmark

plush mason
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well he is also the only one that can count past 3 without a boneead implat iirc

queen laurel
plush mason
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i know

queen laurel
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They're like caveman

plush mason
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still really funny

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and also its not like the imperium would care to teach them

queen laurel
storm jungle
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never has been retconned either

acoustic rock
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Yeah but my point is, that isn't a benchmark for World Eaters general strengths and capabilities

plush mason
storm jungle
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World Eaters have done absolutely insane shit

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theres one that soloed a titan by climbing its innards lmao

acoustic rock
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that's... ugh whatever

plush mason
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Khornite behavior

storm jungle
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40k is just anime

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dont worry about it

acoustic rock
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World eaters, at a standard, can punch through custodes. It was done once by one world eater, so all of them can do it bare minimum

plush mason
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and as we all know, the rage junkies are among the strongest characters in anime

storm jungle
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always

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Guts Moment

plush mason
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the Sayians too

acoustic rock
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Dilara I can't believe you have the gall to pepega emote me while maintaining that illogical assertion.
"exception:"
a person or thing that is excluded from a general statement or does not follow a rule:
☝️ 🤓

storm jungle
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i dont know why you are taking this so seriously

acoustic rock
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World Eaters, generally speaking, cannot punch through an armoured custodian

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Because I am a serious person

storm jungle
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Yeah im aware.

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and I dont care

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Like 40k works on literal comic book logic, this is the last thing i give a shit about.

queen laurel
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Taking warhammer lore seriously what are you from reddit?

storm jungle
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Warhammer is a very serious setting.

acoustic rock
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I do care, and I am correct.
Good thing you don't care about being wrong lmao

storm jungle
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Yeah because i dont have a stick up my ass

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learn to take a joke when you also see one

acoustic rock
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I'm just troolling bro

queen laurel
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You have the humor of a black templar you know that

storm jungle
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Literally

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dont tell em about the time a custodian got decapitated by a mining laser

opaque coyote
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what the fuck is going on rn

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💀

acoustic rock
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Loses argument into ad hominem
Ahhh classic internet debate

storm jungle
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What argument

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whats going on lol

acoustic rock
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your assertion conflicting with my own

storm jungle
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????

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Im so confused rn

opaque coyote
queen laurel
acoustic rock
storm jungle
acoustic rock
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are you?

queen laurel
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You do know that she is a mod right

storm jungle
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...Yes?

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Yeah that too

acoustic rock
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You seem confused

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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whats with the hostility

storm jungle
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why are you so worked up?

queen laurel
acoustic rock
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you said you were confused so I asked if you were alright?

queen laurel
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This is like one of those people

forest orbit
acoustic rock
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what argument? I'm confused?

forest orbit
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Oh no

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hes entering NPC Parameters

acoustic rock
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lmao

queen laurel
forest orbit
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Watch out

queen laurel
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Yep that's another one for that list

forest orbit
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hes gonna ask about the cloud district

opaque coyote
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a

storm jungle
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I think he just legit did not understand i was joking with the world eaters bit and is now being extremely bothered about it.

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If you take 40k lore this seriously you should find some other things to occupy your time

forest orbit
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Genuinely

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im re-reading this chat and its really unhinged

acoustic rock
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I would have had an easier time believing it was a joke if not for the personal attacks 🤷‍♂️
I don't think it's my fault

forest orbit
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guy is literally harassing a mod over a pepe emote

storm jungle
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...

opaque coyote
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There is general power scaling, but it's a guideline, not a strict rule.

...and usually the only rule is the "rule of cool".

storm jungle
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Personal attac-

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okay honestly

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i dont even care, dont elaborate

forest orbit
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LOL

acoustic rock
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That's fine

plush mason
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so like, did the black templars really purge people on a world because they had heterochromia? and if so is that a chapter wide thing or just an isolated incident?

queen laurel
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Always with the people thinking their right

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Nothing change in that department

plush mason
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like i get they hate mutants but that seems a little extreme even by the imperium's standards

dusk patrol
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BT are effectively multiple chapters

forest orbit
plush mason
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yeah its why im asking if it was just a case of extremists if it did happen

forest orbit
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they generally mostly all do the same gimmick

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they are pretty standard for the most part minus a few quirks

storm jungle
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^

dusk patrol
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We’ve seen some die defending Eldar when called for it, weve seen some kill Custodes cause they don’t think primaris are the emperors will

storm jungle
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They got some unique qualities but like yeah at the end of the day they all kinda do the same thing.

opaque coyote
forest orbit
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BT are still just one trope spread across varying uh

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"parameters" is the word i guess lol

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at the end of the day they are still knights templars in space

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and all the baggage that comes with it

opaque coyote
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Basically, in my personal opinion, the Black Templars just spin a wheel deciding how Xenophobic and Racist they are today.

forest orbit
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That is also correct KEKW_ogryn

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Tho their racism can reach some fucking hilariously goofy levels

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like them murdering an entire primaris reinforcement contingent

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because uhhhh

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Chaplain was a bit off his meds

storm jungle
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It was a small oopsie on his part

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they got better

forest orbit
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Yeah "better"

opaque coyote
forest orbit
opaque coyote
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Basically it's a 50/50 chance that if you hand 6 fingers on one hand, that meeting them will equal death

acoustic rock
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Delara, although we just shared an awkward exchange, I don't hold it against you. I know you deal with a lot of morons being a mod, so I get the reaction.
While I still don't think it was fair to me, I do understand how you might feel I was being moronic.
For my part I'd like to say sorry

queen laurel
forest orbit
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But yeah the problem is most Templars largely act the same, otherwise you kinda risk them being non too compliant to the way fans tend to see them

plush mason
opaque coyote
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If they're nice, they may just cut off the extra finger.

dusk patrol
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The question was if they’d all react to said scenario the same, the answer is no we see different BT leaders and crusades acting differently or with more radicalness.

forest orbit
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they hate foreigners

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and wanna kill em

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also defend holy places

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and holy people

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or holy artifacts

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yada yada

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Its their whole thing

opaque coyote
forest orbit
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Yeah no it is, its from an actual brotherhood so it helps

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my first exposure to it was from Assassins Creed 1 so i cant comment staregryn

plush mason
dusk patrol
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It’s not by accident they’re so popular

forest orbit
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One of theirs

dusk patrol
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Shits cool

forest orbit
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Yeah cool with people not getting the point

opaque coyote
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Lamenters and Salamanders have the uglier schemes.

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So the meaner you are in 40k, the more drippier you are?

Oh wait Marines Malevolent exist nvm

forest orbit
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theres a reason i gotta make clear im not a racist homophobe every time i make friends

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god i just wanna play with people without all this shit man 💀

queen laurel
forest orbit
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Yeah i get that a lot

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it sucks but its my fandom's fault

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i can live with it

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I dont get bashed as long as I make clear im cool with what uh People "do"

queen laurel
# forest orbit LOL

Yeah what can you do when you like something but the fandom is known to be crazy

forest orbit
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sometimes I wish I was a Fists fan instead

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but then i realise id rather eat a 12 gauge

opaque coyote
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You either get somebody annoying or somebody racist

forest orbit
opaque coyote
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...

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usually bot-

forest orbit
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I also have a krieg friend thats like this

queen laurel
forest orbit
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"Man I really like siege/WW1 stuff this is so cool, what about you whats your krieg army like"

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"Oh you know i painted the mlike the wehrmacht and to purge undesirable imperials"

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"....The what now staregryn "

queen laurel
forest orbit
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thankfully most of their fandom has brainrot for shovels instead

forest orbit
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its funny the first time but like

opaque coyote
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I

opaque coyote
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I can't understand a single word

queen laurel
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They aren't dicks most of the time

opaque coyote
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But I respect the commitment

forest orbit
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Yeah the "ork speak" and "ork logic makes everythign work" is what i hate about their fandom

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i like orks seperately for what they are lol

opaque coyote
forest orbit
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Bulgur you are like the only ork person I like

opaque coyote
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at their core

forest orbit
forest orbit
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thye hate and wanna kill everyone

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if only we could aspire to such mystic balance

queen laurel
opaque coyote
dusk patrol
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Generally speaking I’ve found judging people by how they act is a lot better, people reveal themselves quickly regardless.

And most Krieg and Templar fans are surface level who just like the basic look.

forest orbit
dusk patrol
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They have a lot more normies and that can be annoying especially with the “Burn heretic!” Memes and shit but it’s died down more in recent years

forest orbit
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Templars i still stand that are largely just awful people, i got ousted from so many groups with them for just not agreeing with their empty chatter

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like i just wanna sit and paint my minis

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i dont wanna hear how you hate "queers" for the 10th time or how warhammer is going "woke"

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💀

queen laurel
forest orbit
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Armageddon is less fascist looking

queen laurel
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Yeah that definitely help them

forest orbit
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people are attached to grey trenchcoats + faceless mooks look

dusk patrol
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They’re literally based off Nazis

forest orbit
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its why most people dont really uh

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get "weird" about them

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the desert tanned coats also help lol

dusk patrol
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It’s just Krieg is more popular

forest orbit
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its a less "Hostile = Cool" looking color

opaque coyote
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Besides they don't have cool coats

forest orbit
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They kinda d

dusk patrol
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Its surface level

forest orbit
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but like

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its not a trenchcoat

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its more like a raincoat-ish one i forgot the name

dusk patrol
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Most of these people barely engage with the universe at all wider level

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Stormcoat

forest orbit
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But either way yeah unfortunately the most popular groups in said factions tend to be absolutely festering with annoying vocal majorities.

I take no part in templar stuff and just stick to my own corner with my own friends that play other armies.

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its probably the most "peaceful" existence

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Like I said generally obnoxious people make themselves known fast

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The most recent annoying group that’s cropped up is people obsessed with picking and playing the “nice” faction

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No, Tau, LoV, Sallies, Lamenters, fucking whoever aren’t nice

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They all suck

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You’re missing the point

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Jfc

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They’re all evil

queen laurel
opaque coyote
plush mason
queen laurel
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They're like tau but better to live in

opaque coyote
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Problem is that good doesn't really exist

dusk patrol
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Stop being so boring with engaging with the setting reee

dusk patrol
opaque coyote
plush mason
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i like the steel legion and imperial fists, i hate their color schemes

dusk patrol
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They’re the same as the Tau Empire just no Ethereals, they’re more xenophobic too

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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The answer is there isn’t one

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And if they can’t handle that then I stop engaging

queen laurel
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Yes that but that answer doesn't give the dopamine fun chemicals doesn't it

dusk patrol
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I don’t care if it’s satisfying

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It’s the point of the setting

queen laurel
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Give them the boring answer and they'll f*** off

dusk patrol
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No because I’m not gonna capitulate to someone whose misinformed or a moron

opaque coyote
queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Depends on how much time I have too tbh

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But if someone’s wrong they’re wrong

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They can have their fanfic if they want but it doesn’t make it correct

opaque coyote
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Vect

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such a nice gentleman

dusk patrol
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I have had people unironically argue that Chaos is the nicest faction but that was a mix of not knowing anything and being an edgelord

opaque coyote
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they literally have like spikes upon spikes

dusk patrol
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Contrarianism leads people down dark paths

opaque coyote
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"bro guys the daemons that wear human spines as a belt are good!"

opaque coyote
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The Imperium killed any good that remained

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Until hell is the only choice you have.

dusk patrol
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There are good people and good groups still

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But none of the factions are good

opaque coyote
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It's just that they can't effect anything

queen laurel
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There's literally also an inquisitor school of thought that focuses on trying to rebuild the imperium but you know how that will go

opaque coyote
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And even then, by our standards, most of them are still shitty

dusk patrol
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Largely

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Anyway heres a really cool kitbash

opaque coyote
# dusk patrol

im assuming they're taking him to either become a dreadnought

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or for their geneseed

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either way that mf ain't gonna be the same

dusk patrol
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Losing legs doesn’t a dreadnought make

opaque coyote
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oh yeah he still has his arms

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nvm

dusk patrol
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If they're based at least

queen laurel
# dusk patrol

those things give of the same performance as their old legs?

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Because no matter how much i look at it looks too frail

opaque coyote
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Also I think that's mainly due to the uh

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Servos and shit being exposed

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legs break down due to having water exposure

dusk patrol
queen laurel
dusk patrol
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They're made very well

queen laurel
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Yeah and they're getting covered which is good

dusk patrol
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There's a bit in a short where one of these guys grabs an Iron Hand in Deathwatch and tries to break his spine by his head, and he's not able to actually break his reinforced spine.

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He tries to twist and it doesn't work.

opaque coyote
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Basically the Iron Hands do actually have a point.

But it also sorta breaks apart their soul

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But who needs that

dusk patrol
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There's a reason the average Iron Father age seems to be about 800-900.

opaque coyote
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You'd think it would be shorter given the fact that one of their Terminator Armor models gives off cancer

queen laurel
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That does not sound impressive compared to someone like dante or something

opaque coyote
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But hey, a little radiation never did anybody too much harm

dusk patrol
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Dante is probably one of the most impressive loyalist marines to ever live.

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If not the.

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Most marine's don't get anywhere close to 1000

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They can live for longer we know.

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But they don't survive that long.

opaque coyote
dusk patrol
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Dantioch was aged like 9000 years iirc.

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But its also an unnatural process.

opaque coyote
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Feeling it

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I'm just imagining a Chaos Daemon trying to offer a Space Marine immortality and they're just like

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"I already have that."

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BLAM

rocky gale
prisma lark
tough haven
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By making them eat each other alive

shell mason
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you know

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im a fair and impartial man

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but being so heinous you commit a crime that can literally never be commited again is a instant death penalty

tough haven
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To be truly impartial you have to give everyone the death penalty

shell mason
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its only fair though

shadow plover
storm jungle
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no

shadow plover
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borgar.. for lorgar

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I almost tagged you to that image because I knew you'd enjoy it

spare osprey
dusk patrol
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Yeah they’re not as beefy as they normally make them

hallow saddle
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I'll try and find a pic of the custom iron hands char that siege studios did recently, it's absolutely mega

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nvm I thought he had a bionic leg

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A work in progress Custom Service Iron Hands Primaris Captain we are working on at the moment. This was a great opportunity to meld flesh and steel together to create a unique centrepiece character!

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dusk patrol
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Very sick

paper haven
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My first impression was some kind of necron space marine and I'm a little disappointed that isn't the case.

dusk patrol
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Drown in your poor taste

plush mason
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i hope we get Mechanicus 2 sometime next year

hallow saddle
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ive seen some cool deathwatch conversions that include necron and tau bits

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theres a ton of scope to do cool shit with them

plush mason
hallow saddle
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weapons too

plush mason
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nice

hallow saddle
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where theyre incorporated xenotech into the weapons

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very cool

dusk patrol
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There’s a lot of cool stuff people do

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I’m not a good enough artist or modeler

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Iron Hands has some very cool conversion potential if you can spend the time though

dusk patrol
plush mason
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yeah thats what im thinking

dusk patrol
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I’m waiting for the next RT dlc to drop

plush mason
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the fact we will be in charge of a whole planetary invasion/defense in 2 will be neat

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which brings me to a question, do necrons have a dedicated titan equivalent?

dusk patrol
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Monoliths and shit

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Also the

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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The thing that asirnoth was

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But mostly they just

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Blast everyone else’s

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Don’t need titan units when you can one shot everyone else’s

storm jungle
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they also got like

dusk patrol
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Big boy Wyrms

storm jungle
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massive unrelated walkers artists do for big war artworks

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their titan units are largely "whatever the fuck just draw big pyramid/scarab"

plush mason
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lmao

hallow saddle
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yeah the worm centipede things too, theres one smaller one and one big one

dusk patrol
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The big one I can’t recall if it’s named in the Infinite and the Divine

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But it’s probably what Ferrus fought

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They mentioned they’d drop them on worlds to clear them as kinda fire and forget weapons

hallow saddle
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tomb stalker and tomb sentinel

dusk patrol
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Yeah and Asirnoth was probably the bigger one of those

hallow saddle
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they might actually both be the same size but one is shooty and one is melee loregryn

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its possible that im making shit up....

dusk patrol
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There’s one that’s smaller I think

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Idk if it’s those names but

storm jungle
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like i said above necron titan units are literally "whatever shit we can make up or those 2 forgeworld models"

tough haven
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So In my campaign, I have a puzzle where if the party rotates the hand of a statue of a harlequin, a secret passage opens up, is this a good enough description to hint that something is wrong in its current state without needing to explain too much? (My players are new to 40K)

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“You recognize this as a statue of an Aeldari Harlequin, one of the strange sub factions of the Xenos species. The figure’s hand gesture stands out to you, with the gesture pointing downwards representing praise of She Who Thirsts, said in Aeldari lore to be the species’ ancient foe.”

storm jungle
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Are they going into like some eldar temple underneath the city?

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also representing praise to Slaanesh? CatEvil

opaque coyote
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kinda like satanists

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but eldar

tough haven
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Which then opens the passage

tough haven
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I’m trying to gently nudge the party that it’s hand position is not right

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I made it a harlequin since they especially hate slaneesh and it would be very odd to see anything but a solitaire making gestures of praise

dusk patrol
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How the fuck long is this one shot

tough haven
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A lot of the stuff I’ve been asking for feedback on here are optional scenes, since I don’t want it to be entirely railroad-y

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I’m trying to account for as many ways the party might decide to go in, I’m sure they’ll find some way that I didn’t think about and have all this prep be wasted lol

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I’m like 90% done with writing for it, this is just a opportunity to get extra loot at the end

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In case the party decides they want to keep using these characters

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Anyways, how can I get my point across better with my description of the statue

opaque coyote
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Jesus holding the cross upside down

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You have to turn it upright

opaque coyote
tough haven
opaque coyote
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Homeless dude?

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shoot

tough haven
opaque coyote
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What if they shoot the gangers

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The classic Imperium Guardsman way

tough haven
tough haven
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Yeah this one shot might go kinda long, especially since I think I’ve underestimated how long combat can go for

opaque coyote
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Bro if you didn't mention it was a one shot, I would've thought it was a campaign bruh

tough haven
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But really there’s 3 main scenes, Inspecting the crime scene/finding and fighting the gangers, being ambushed at the drop site, and going to the cold traders nightclub/hideout and fighting him

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It’s a one shot ideally if we focus on the objective, but I know the people I’m playing with cause I’ve played RPGs with them before and it will not be that straightforward lol

tough haven
hallow saddle
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i cast "turn that frown upside down" on the slaanesh statue

rose thorn
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Is the tallarn like

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Being a racist stereotype or is that built off of something lmao

rocky gale
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Tallarn Desert Raiders are inspired off of Lawrence of Arabia

rose thorn
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I was uder the impression it was based off desert storm

crystal forum
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void breachers are there despite not being astra militarum

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shit channel

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also that 1800's british regiment that barely exists

plush mason
crystal forum
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tallarn are based on the SAS during WW2

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uncultured swine

rocky gale
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Nope

crystal forum
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literally called desert rats

plush mason
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its likely a mix of both

crystal forum
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it is not

rocky gale
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They're based off of Lawrence of Arabia and the Arab revolt

crystal forum
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i disagree

rocky gale
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You can disagree but we're both right

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It's a combination of Lawrence of Arabia and the Desert Rats, plus a bit of Dune in there as well

hallow saddle
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those regiments are pretty much based off historical wargaming miniatures and then they make stuff up to fit it into 40k

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then you do some headswaps and arm swaps etc and you have 40k models

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so i dont know if there are many lawrence of arabia historical miniatures, and i can deffo imagine them using ww2 british SAS miniatures for it

crystal forum
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brits love fawning over WW2 SAS stuff

hallow saddle
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like ww2 sas minis would 100% have deffo been a thing for these guys

rocky gale
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For Tallarn their main thing is armoured warfare and horses, the horses are the Lawrence of Arabia bit and the armoured warfare is the WW2 stuff

hallow saddle
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nice, i can see that for sure

hallow saddle
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driving through the wadi in their land rovers~

rocky gale
hallow saddle
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look for whatever the perry twins sculpted for historicals and its probably literally that

rocky gale
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Exactly

hallow saddle
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cause they sculpted historicals and also worked at games workshop

crystal forum
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penis

rocky gale
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Like I think you just don't understand how much British historical nerds obsess over Lawrence of Arabia because it's really up there, it and Zulu

crystal forum
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WW2 british history nerds will explain to you 5 different stories about the desert rats since that's one of the only times brits did anything relevant

young pecan
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I'd like to start a petition to put down all white women

rocky gale
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Honestly Desert Rats aren't even in the top 5 of British historical nerd special interests

crystal forum
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they are

rocky gale
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They're not

crystal forum
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for WW2 nerds

rocky gale
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Even for WW2 nerds

dapper gyro
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I saw a lot of Tommy, then 80s SAS, then Royal Marines Commando, then whatever else.

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WW2 British is all about ships and aircraft.

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And the 17pdrs

rocky gale
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Yea for WW2 the big two special interests are Battle of Britain and Churchill

crystal forum
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naaaah

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north african campaign

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huge british topic

rocky gale
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North Africa Campaign is maybe 6th

crystal forum
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you hang around americans if you think brits dont shut the fuck up about rommel

rocky gale
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Bletchley Park is probably more common

dapper gyro
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Eh, my British WT server rarely talk about Rommel.

rocky gale
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Na being obsessed with Rommel is mostly an American thing

crystal forum
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that's WT it's casuals

dapper gyro
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But their love for the 17pdrs is deep.

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Oh don't you assume.

crystal forum
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it is

rocky gale
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Most people I know who are obsessed with Rommel and North Africa campaign are Americans tbh

crystal forum
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tabletop mini players are a different breed of historical annoyances

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almost as much as hoi4 players

dapper gyro
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I also do historical miniatures.

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So, yeah...

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Tabletop mini is nothing

hallow saddle
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worth bearing in mind this was the 80s

scenic bolt
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you also have the hoi4 modded and unmodded split

hallow saddle
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when the tallarn were made

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or perhaps early 90s actuallu

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so like current war thunder discord isnt super relevant

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(war thunder?)

dapper gyro
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Yes, mostly historical nerds.

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Half of us joined the military or doing works with museum nowadays.

rocky gale
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But yea the thing about GW back then is it drew massively from Pop Culture rather than just "History"

It's why the Catachan are thought of as Vietnam but are actually like Rambo and Predator rather than how Vietnam actually was

Praetorians draw from Zulu (movie)

Tallarn from Lawrence of Arabia (movie)

crystal forum
rocky gale
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HOI4 has more splits than the Ballet

dapper gyro
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That's...

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Real

rocky gale
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Unmodded vs modded, mod vs other mods, mod vs other version of the same mod

arctic talon
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I play stellaris so I don’t have any messy irl baggage/hj

crystal forum
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nah you dont >:(

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i like purging undesirables

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mostly humans

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i HATE humans

arctic talon
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bio trophies

crystal forum
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also i've seen some people mod certain ethnic groups into stellaris

arctic talon
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💀

rocky gale
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and so many of the major HOI IV mods have atleast 2 rival versions, the original and the redux version (||And the reason for the split is almost always transphobia in the dev team||)

crystal forum
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guess which one is the criminal syndicate megacorporation

scenic bolt
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paradox fandom.exe

plush mason
rocky gale
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Any HOI4 mod dev team is 50% trans and 50% transphobic

plush mason
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i refuse to be involved with the paradox community

plush mason
rocky gale
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They regularly do

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and then split into rival teams that keep developing their own version of the mod

scenic bolt
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WW2 was a mistake

arctic talon
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My favorite way to play stellaris is as rogue servitors

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Because I think it’s hilarious

plush mason
arctic talon
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LOL

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not wrong

plush mason
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likely one of the most disastrous short sighted and idiotic documents written in human history

arctic talon
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Nah

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There will be no downsides what so ever

plush mason
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when even the dumbasses over in Washington D.C. know its a bad idea that says a lot

arctic talon
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You see something like the treaty of Versailles is great when you want an excuse to attack someone

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This goes both ways

scenic bolt
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defeated enemies never develop revanchist policies never happens

storm jungle
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I MISSED TALKING ABOUT TALLARN

scenic bolt
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come and gone like the desert winds

arctic talon
rocky gale
tough haven
storm jungle
arctic talon
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Cowardice

scenic bolt
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as opposed to touching on hoi4 fandom

arctic talon
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Let’s talk about stellaris

storm jungle
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hoi4

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YEET

arctic talon
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The other thing that lets you commit space genocide

crystal forum
rocky gale
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Yea you missed Jay being wrong again

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😏

storm jungle
crystal forum
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gotta post this image every time tallarn is discussed

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it is only right

plush mason
arctic talon
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I just make bio trophies

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Smh

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Genocide is only necessary because they’re too strong for my CPU

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Which paradox is solving

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No longer will you need to commit mass murder to save your computer from exploding

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(They’re finally reworking pops)

storm jungle
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Yeah Tallarn suffer a lot from like

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arabic regiment

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all white dudes

rocky gale
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It's accurate to the movie

arctic talon
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I like how literally all of this is true

plush mason
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how old is the regiment anyway?

storm jungle
storm jungle
arctic talon
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Talleran?

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Like

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3e

storm jungle
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^

arctic talon
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They didn’t get minis till 4e

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And then those minis got discontinued except for the uh

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The named dude

storm jungle
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the white men cometh.........

plush mason
arctic talon
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The named dude wasn’t white

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I think

storm jungle
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He had arabic features

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aka a mustache

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otherwise yeah lol

arctic talon
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The glory of old warhammer sculpts

scenic bolt
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the forgeworld tallarn were neat

arctic talon
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People trying to convince me old face sculpts were good

crystal forum
# storm jungle >arabic regiment

impossible for GW to have made a big regiment out of say, the indian gurkhas who sacrificed their lives so brits could be free

rocky gale
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Good ole Alec Guinness as Prince Feisal

arctic talon
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Much better then the original pewter? Ones

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The best old pewter minis GW made were the vostroyan ones

plush mason
storm jungle
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Me when england exists

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best part of the movie

crystal forum
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please

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dont forget buckinfuck palace

storm jungle
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LMFAO

arctic talon
storm jungle
arctic talon
storm jungle
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they use kinetic rods to bomb london as a show of force

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so Cobra can become the president of the world

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love it

crystal forum
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based

rocky gale
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Movie about WW1 will say "Britain has called upon all the forces of it's Empire to fight in the Trenches" and then show you 50 white guys

hallow saddle
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very based

arctic talon
rocky gale
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and no one else

dapper gyro
dusk patrol
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London blows up in a lot of movies

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It’s basically a trope of late 2000s early 2010s movies

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For whatever reason

crystal forum
arctic talon
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I need the achievement for invading earth during world war 2 in stellaris

rocky gale
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Well Irish as well if they're feeling generous

arctic talon
storm jungle
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shame its not the White House

arctic talon
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Or am I ass at geography

storm jungle
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but we cant all win

arctic talon
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I mean

rocky gale
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A Brit would tell you yes

arctic talon
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It geographically is no?

crystal forum
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ireland didn't take part in WW2

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funny enough

arctic talon
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Okay so it’s that

rocky gale
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An irish person would shoot you

arctic talon
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Yeah I get it

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Lol

storm jungle
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I remember seeing a convo in another server once

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where like

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one scottish dude went

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"We are basically english"

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and another scottish dude went

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"are you fucking stupid"

arctic talon
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The Scottish and British are united in one thing

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Oppressing the Irish

storm jungle
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Hmmm, potatoes

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and plague

crystal forum
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scots arent treated well by the brits either

storm jungle
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💀

crystal forum
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they also had a big famine along the irish and brits didnt give a shit

dapper gyro
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Nah, they are all hooligans.

arctic talon
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It’s a stupid ass joke

rocky gale
storm jungle
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looking at the UK now

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i think they are getting it

rocky gale
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and Scots are one wrung above

storm jungle
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lmao

arctic talon
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It’s easier to kick down lol

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And by god do people love kicking down

crystal forum
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also red haired people for some weird fucking reason

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brits hate red hair

dapper gyro
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oh?

storm jungle
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idk man red hair is hot

rocky gale
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I was going to say it's like the English Class system, but it's slightly more complicated

tough haven
arctic talon
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Idk

arctic talon
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I’m not good at British history

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I only know broad strokes

tough haven
storm jungle
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Honestly that might not be true but the worst part is it easily can be

crystal forum
rocky gale
tough haven
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I could have sworn I read that somewhere

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can someone look into that?

arctic talon
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I’m only good at North American/Central American/East Asian lol

storm jungle
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I DO remember watching a documentary and like it did say the english just made them build castles and otehr shit they barely used half the time iirc

tough haven
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Im not good at any

crystal forum
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it was considered a moral failure to give food or money directly. it's one of those 1800's things

tough haven
rocky gale
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They were put into "Workhouses" to earn their food and forced to do manual labour while starving for scraps because the Brits didn't want to just give them food

crystal forum
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just an excuse to be evil

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anyways remember to kill a britishman

crystal forum
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and throw their body into the ocean

static wren
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I volunteer as tribute havoc is kicking my ass

hallow saddle
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poor english people were put into the workhouse too

static wren
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just put me down

hallow saddle
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waifs and strays

arctic talon
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Yeah that makes sense

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Tbh

tough haven
arctic talon
tough haven
rocky gale
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Also always remember that Ireland at the time was still producing enough food to feed itself, it was just being grown on land owned by English landowners who were shipping it abroad because it sold for a better price

crystal forum
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i wish we had the IRA in canada

tough haven
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But I like to think thats in spite of their oppression not because of it

crystal forum
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what a shame

arctic talon
crystal forum
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killing colonizers

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you are morally allowed to kill british colonizers it says so in the good book

hallow saddle
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people being exploited for profit, thank goodness that totally went away 💀 💀 💀

tough haven
crystal forum
tough haven
crystal forum
tough haven
crystal forum
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im talking about the CEO killing lol

tough haven
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sorry I live in the US where public executions could be very well real legally speaking soon in certain states

green loom
crystal forum
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dogs dont loaf

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this is cat appropriation

tough haven
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sorry I was reminded of this when you said appropriation

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yall remember when this happened?

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rainbows just stopped existing except for the LGBTQ+ community

crystal forum
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no because i dont use twitter and my life therefore is better than it could be

tough haven
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good times

tough haven
plush mason
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twitter embodies the idea of the peanut gallery

crystal forum
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i wish i could throw actual peanuts at most of the people there

plush mason
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its a place you go to laugh at the idiots voicing their worthless opinions and believing they are the ones laughing at the viewers

storm jungle
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😭

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NAAAAAHHHH

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This is some darktide tier zealot shit

tough haven
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(I'm being sarcastic)

crystal forum
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how dare they see using the emperor's light

plush mason
tough haven
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Heretics using their rods and cones to create vision (Stealing the God Emperor's light)

tough haven
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and like the LGBTQ+ community can collectively "return" the concept of a natural phenomenon

opaque coyote
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"Oops, sorry! I won't do the flood again teehee!"

tough haven
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No clue, I dont know shit about abrahamic religions, I stay away from that

opaque coyote
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I remember a fanfic of all things of a different game I won't specify

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But essentially it had a gag where there were gay angels

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and they were organizing a pride month

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The problem is that due to a fuck up by management

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They scheduled pride month on the day of the flood lmao

rocky gale
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Oh god what a coincidence, I'm watching Victoria and I just got to an episode about An Gorta Mór

opaque coyote
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It's like organizing a pride parade on the day that WW3 starts

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It's kinda funny

rocky gale
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The Great Hunger

plush mason
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so a famine?

opaque coyote
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A fun fact that I love is that after Optimus crashes into the quintessons (his second in g1) there was so much fan backlash (again) that they brought him back in the next episode. Then in the Japanese g1 sequel series Headmasters they kill him again like 10 episodes in. That means that in the Japanese G1 timeline Optimus dies four whole times: Once as Orion Pax, then in the 1986 movie, then by kamikazeing into the quintessons, and finally in the Japanese continuation he sacrifices himself trying to stabilize vector sigma.

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I swear the guy is fated to die at least once in every new contiunity/movie

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Apparently in the 1986 movie, kids were fucking traumatized at seeing him just die.

To the point where apparently one kid fucking locked himself in his room for two weeks

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Due to Optimus's death

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Transformers: Traumatizing children since 1984

thick cedar
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Whats the average day like for the average eldar

shadow plover
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American Dad intro song

opaque coyote
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Eldar are able to choose different paths, essentially careers.

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Artistry, Battle, etc.

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They're expected to switch after a while though

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So even the average Eldar civilian is extremely skilled compared to an average human

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Most Craftworlds also operate under a post-scarcity society

opaque coyote
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Part of the reason why Eldar created and fell into Slaanesh is because they are focused

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Like extremely focused

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To the point where even the most mundane path can be potentially dangerous due to how much they fucking GRIND

dusk patrol
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Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism

opaque coyote
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The most boring ass fast food worker path?

They will be the best burger flipper. Every flip must be perfect.

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Every burger must look like it's from a god damn commercial

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And they will work themselves to the bone until they fall and get their souls consumed

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But besides that cavaet, being an eldar is actually pleasant

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Y'know ignoring the gigantic Excess in the room...

storm jungle
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As with IRL history the most decadent societies always tended to be the ones that had nothing to do.

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Its why you got rich billionaire fucks always being exposed doing the sickest shit to people in private like killing people for fun and shit

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Or well, you know

dusk patrol
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They’re also targeted by Slannesh and have more bright souls on average

opaque coyote
# storm jungle Its not focus its boredom.

Partially because of that also.

Slaanesh is the god of excess. And part of that is perfectionism.

The perfect painting, the perfect score, blah blah blah.

Some Eldar focus so much on a path that they find themselves unable to leave. Continuing to tread until death.

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Like hyperfixations but on steroids

dusk patrol
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The only way to be able to use the spirit stones is to be very focused and keep their desires in check and follow the paths

opaque coyote
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And also just to keep you happy in general

storm jungle
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People also think they can never have fun/sex due to Slaanesh which is also like not true lol

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Their societies are pretty good but also just very post-scarcity, so they arent even really communist either.

storm jungle
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Theres a reason chaos eldar are almost entirely unheard of in most 40k written media considering they are always tutored by it against it in their society.

opaque coyote
storm jungle
storm jungle
thick cedar
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Muscle elf

storm jungle
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They are already pretty buff

thick cedar
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MORE

opaque coyote
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Basically humans start to go insane after 2 days or so of sensory deprivation

Eldar have a shorter time I think.

Even shorter if they're Deldar.

I think I read an excerpt where a Deldar only lasted like

thick cedar
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PATH OF THE SWOLE

opaque coyote
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3 hours in a sensory deprivation chamber before breaking

storm jungle
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a craftworld eldar can sit in the same room way longer

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they dont need sensations or stuff like that

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we do in comparison

opaque coyote
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Like biologically

storm jungle
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Eldar are very much superior to humans biologically

storm jungle
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like this is in the lore so lol

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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They are tight/taut like bowstrings.

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and very stretched

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they got no body fat for example like we do

opaque coyote
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Yeah so basically it's a master roshi type of situation. Except without the buff form.

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Just extremely condensed

storm jungle
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Pretty much.

opaque coyote
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but 40k so

storm jungle
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Dont think so hard about it

opaque coyote
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like wouldn't they die in a shorter time without food?

storm jungle
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I mean again, aliens

opaque coyote
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Do eldar have faster metabolism?

storm jungle
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you forget these things were literally engineered by the Old Ones

opaque coyote
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space magic

thick cedar
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Imagine an extremely petty eldar critisizing a humans ass wiping technique

shadow plover
storm jungle
opaque coyote
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Still would be interesting if Eldar had faster metabolism than humans

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Like they eat as much as a SM.

storm jungle
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Eh i can live with it

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last thing i care about is their eating habits

opaque coyote
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Imagine an Eldar going to your local fast food restaurant and reciting the big smoke order

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"I'll have two number 9s..."

storm jungle
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I had a friend like that

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guy is almost a literal skeleton

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and never gets fat eating the biggest fast food stuff

shadow plover
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I used to be like that

storm jungle
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lucky bastard

shadow plover
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used to

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then I got old

thick cedar
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Then just stop doing that

storm jungle
shadow plover
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I will once I figure out the esoteric skills to achieve that

dusk patrol
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smh

thick cedar
storm jungle
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go back to your gay ranch Chapter

thick cedar
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I remember ready something like

dusk patrol
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Eldar are literally the posterboy for FALGSC

thick cedar
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dense muscles dont allow for prolongued action but are really good for rapid bursts

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its why humans are good marathon runners

storm jungle
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look

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do you expect GW to like

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actually understand biology

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in any capacity

dusk patrol
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Your homophobic bourgeoise attitude is not accepted here fascist.

storm jungle
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"Okay so space marines have no gaps on their ribcages, thus making it a bulletproof case"

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like... do they even know why the ribcage has those gaps

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😭

thick cedar
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lol so its just solid bone?

storm jungle
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Yeah its great

dusk patrol
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Its shelled

storm jungle
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tho another case of "nobody remembers this when writing it"

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shotout to my homies with acid spit

shadow plover
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fair but it's also explained as being layered to cover the holes

storm jungle
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Yeah and in some its said to be solid bone

shadow plover
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depends on the era when it was written and who is writing

storm jungle
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clearly a Chapter mutation

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but like its not even the most goofy space marine mutation so its not a big deal

dusk patrol
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Theres been doctors who have talked about how, assuming you can actually do all this with goofy sci fi genetic splicing and shit, its not terrible thought out.