#40k-lore-chat

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shadow plover
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Fair

opaque coyote
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Either way I like chipless for the tragedy of the clones

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But I also like the chip for how tragic it is that they turned

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That they essentially lost any sense of individuality forcefully

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This scene is fucking awesome tho

shadow plover
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chip or no chip I actually don't see much of a difference if the line in the Episode II was "We modified their genetic structure to make them less independent than the original host. They are totally obedient, taking any order without question."
Chip just makes it so it is removable whereas genetic manipulation would be not

spare osprey
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chip in the fact of the tragedy of it, but i liked the willingly follow for how grim it was

opaque coyote
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It is tragic that for Rex, that his last thought before the chip fully takes over was how Fives was right all along

spare osprey
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like the fact a bunch of the 501st who attacked the temple weren't born on kamino

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that was neat

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šŸ«€

paper haven
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I miss the imperial commando game

soft thunder
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Honestly deserves a remaster/remake/whatever

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early 2000's squad controlling games are primed for a revival

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The aged adolescents YEARN for solo play squad games

green loom
opaque coyote
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Especially since they can go all out in terms of being as dark as possible

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You want war crime weapons?

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We got war crime weapons

dapper gyro
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Clone Commando really does have the cool factor.

plush mason
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the chip also had other override orders

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basically the chips could override their free will but only because they where made with a reduced amount

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thats why the non clone troopers never had chips

languid meadow
opaque coyote
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I think the idea in mind was to keep up in the themes of dead space in general

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Basically how the Ishimura looks like a decaying corpse with it's ribs exposed

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So the soldiers look like skeletons

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I think the newer design is trying to make that more evident? Like the body has much more boney looking ridges

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Honestly if they didn't have the weird grin

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And instead just made it black

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It could be much better

dapper gyro
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I like the Ventura suit the most. Just my taste.

opaque coyote
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"...no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant. Not when Order 66 came down and not when we matched into the Jedi temple. Not a word."

tight stratus
opaque coyote
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Also this is probably the most realistic yet depressing scene in star wars

viral halo
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or had his venmo or cashapp on a piece of cardboard

opaque coyote
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So this man might just be 30

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He just looks old because of the faster aging

crystal forum
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star wars nerds trying everything in their power to make storm troopers cool

sour hornet
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GW isn't a good enough company to let it happen

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The best Battlefield entries happened when EA let Dice do mostly what it wanted, GW is so hands on about what goes where and who's allowed to show up when, it would never get off the ground.

dusk patrol
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There hasn’t been a lack of good games under GW, the issue is more convincing DICE or whoever to do it

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And Dice also hasn’t made a good game in a minute

gray umbra
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I would prolly play the shit outta a battlefield 40k clone

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Imperial guard vs orks or something

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But i guess ig vs traitor guard makes more sense

opaque coyote
tough haven
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but it'd probably be guard versus traitor guard

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cause its always gotta be imperium vs chaos

tough haven
opaque coyote
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Especially since well

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If there's a campaign (probably not but I can hope)

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Then I think a cool one would be at the Tau side and Imperium side

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And having both sides have

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Such an overwhelmingly biased view that it's just funny

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But the T'au actually have things like

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Consistent food

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You could actually just play up the virtues of the Tau and have the tyranny be subtle

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While for the Imperium

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Just have it be fully fucking awful

tough haven
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Sounds cool, will never happen though

opaque coyote
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I know

tough haven
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There’s no space marines on either side in that matchup

opaque coyote
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I am imagining a funny mission where you literally defend what's essentially

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A concentration camp for xenos

tough haven
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AND it’s xenos? It’s never getting off the cutting room floor

opaque coyote
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Like it's the equivalent of being a Guard and you're defending Auschwitz

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For the glory of the Imperium

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Meanwhile you send a mother and a child off to be worked to death

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Just the most reprehensible actions imaginable

tough haven
tough haven
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it serves no strategic or economic purpose

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but its funny

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and its a big middle finger to the T'au

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God I really want T'au content describing in detail their first contact with each faction and their opinions on it

opaque coyote
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Also if we ever have a scene where we get out of the trenches in a classic war

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Have it so that if you try to go back you just instantly die

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Blamed by a Commissar

opaque coyote
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Idk like

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A military base

winter vessel
opaque coyote
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While in the Imperium campaign. You get to defend the Volcano Conveyer belt

opaque coyote
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And also the Deldar

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Reading the fluff about their first contact with the Deldar I was basically like

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At least they learned quickly

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Idk if they ever met craftworlders tho

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Although I do know that Tau are absolutely fucking confused about Wraithbone due to it

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Basically being magic

winter vessel
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For me it was them making contact with the Tyranids, funny as hell. which I think they tried, diplomacy more than once?

opaque coyote
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So maybe they were like

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"Maybe they didn't hear us?"

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They just didn't understand that the Tyranids just

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Love eating

tough haven
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Like where are these detailed

tough haven
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Like I want them to all be as detailed as their first battles with the imperium

opaque coyote
# tough haven Is it detailed much or is it the classic xenos 2 paragraphs

There's been two instances of necrons and tau fighting together against tyranids, one time the necrons just left after the fighting was done and the other the necrons wiped out the tau too.

The T'au sept world of Uan'voss is almost overrun by a sudden onslaught of Tyranids, only to be rescued by the most unlikely saviors. Several legions of Necron from the Atun Dynasty fall upon the swarming bio-horrors, their Monoliths and Annihilation Barges laying down a crippling bombardment of fire while a spearhead of Triarch Praetorians cut their way deep into the monstrous horde. Though the swarm fight back with the fury of a wounded beast, the Tyranids are caught between the attacking Necrons and the firepower of the surviving T'au. As the last chitinous horrors crash down dead, the entire Necron army turns on its collective heel and departs without a word of explanation. The bewildered T'au can do little but give thanks for their mysterious rescue, little knowing they have just witnessed the servants of the Silent King.

When Hive Fleet Gorgon attacked Ka'mais in 075902.M41, an unexpected Necron fleet emerged from Ka'kais' dead moon and set about destroying the now outnumbered Tyranid ships. A day of celebration was declared on Ka'mais and Aun'taniel greeted the Necrons with great ceremony as they landed. Despite the welcome, the Necrons quickly slayed Aun'taniel and went on to harvest the planet.

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Also

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Uh

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This

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976.M41 THE FEAST OF STEEL: The Sautekh Dynasty expands into Tau space and invades the Kroot-held world of Caroch. Though the Kroot win the first engagements, their attempt to dine upon the living metal of their victims has hideous results as a nano-scarab plague sweeps through their ranks

tough haven
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Yeah but where’s that from

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Like I wish these were like actual books or short stories like on par of when they first encountered a dreadnought, not like just a random paragraph from a codex once

opaque coyote
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No idea where the feast came from

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Also if there was a case of darwinism, those Kroot fucking proved it by trying to EAT NECRODERMIS

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WHY??

tough haven
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Unfortunately xenos, so no details, but imperial factions get down to what officer Sand Anuvverwave ate for breakfast on the morning of the 16th mutant uprising that month on the backwater world of Whogivesashit

tough haven
tough haven
opaque coyote
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I also had the idea of a tech priest saying this

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"It isn't magic. It's simply applying electricity to soothe the machine spirit along with prayers! See, not magic, perfectly logical."

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"...that sounds like magic."

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"I will servitorize you."

plush mason
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that honestly reads like a convo between one and a menial

opaque coyote
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Either that or a Tech Priest is stranded on a Feudal world

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Worst nightmare

rose thorn
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I LOVE THIS DRUKHARI ARMY

rocky gale
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Not my thing but it looks interesting

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And the wager mechanic is pretty cool

celest dome
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Offering length of antenna in every direction ?

tough haven
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Clearly it’s a miracle of the omnissiah

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The machine god has blessed Steve with his wisdom

tall plinth
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Alright I need to get this straight

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Are the ogryns in darktide lore accurate

storm jungle
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Yes

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Why wouldnt they be

tall plinth
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I had one tell me that ogryns are much less smart than portrayed in this game

storm jungle
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Yeah those people are grognards lol

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Basically the issue stems from the fact that ogryns barely have had any proper lore/media coverage in 40k before Darktide, it very much doesnt make sense for an ENTIRE sub-species of humans spread across the GALAXY to have the same mental traits.

Ogryns at large go between either being mentally stunded or kept dumb as to be compliant to manipulation by Imperials, thats more or less the entire point of their existence as an abhuman in the Imperium.

The ones ingame also display about as many moronic tendencies as much as smart ones, theres a lot more to explore with an archetype like this beyond "haha they cant count" or "haha they are so stupid they are scared of tight places". People just assume all ogryns are braindead morons and expect it to say that way lol

storm jungle
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This game also had 8-9 Black Library writers make its dialogue/script

tall plinth
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Wow

storm jungle
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Yeah if they ask for a source tell those people to look at the credits lol

queen laurel
tall plinth
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I mean the argument I got was:
ā€œit wouldn’t be fun to play as a brain dead idiot who needed to be pointed at which button to press so they had to embellish a littleā€

storm jungle
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like again, we are talking about an entire sub-species of humans here in possibly the quadrillions

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This is like saying every autistic person is inept and cant do anything lol

tall plinth
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they’re that numerous???

storm jungle
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Its humanity.

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we are literally cockroaches

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we breed like crazy lol

queen laurel
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You know damn well that's false

storm jungle
queen laurel
tall plinth
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if ogryns are that numerous why do I always feel like the only ogryn playing, I so rarely meet other ogryns

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Half joke

storm jungle
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Thats just luck so beats me KEKW_ogryn

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but yeah even as we speak a person across the planet dies and another one is born per second.

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now spread that across the entire galaxy

queen laurel
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Ogryns are also falling into the category of acquired taste

tall plinth
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Really?

queen laurel
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some people like normal humans some people like big monsters

tall plinth
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It was my first class and when I got it to level 30 I tried every other class and couldn’t like it

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I want to be able to smack pox walkers across the room!!

queen laurel
tall plinth
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I also got used to seeing the game from higher up

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Felt weird to change

storm jungle
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Yeah thats on purpose

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they talked pre-release that after doing a almost to the floor POV character with bardin they wanted to try a giant lol

queen laurel
tall plinth
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@storm jungle thank you for your input : )

storm jungle
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šŸ‘

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Overall darktide ogryns are a touchy subject for some lore-numbskulls because they cannot see ogryns as anything being "morons that cant count"

queen laurel
tall plinth
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Granted two ogryns from the same planet (as in the one they developed on) are more likely to have the same or similar level of intelligence, but like you’ve said the galaxy is a big place

storm jungle
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Yeah and these ogryns arent from the same place either

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All of them got also varying degrees of intelligence, none of them are exactly geniuses

tall plinth
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And they have bonehead implants

storm jungle
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Nope

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Just the most stupidest one the Brawler does

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and his is cooking his brain lol

tall plinth
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Ohhh

storm jungle
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remember Bonehead implants also dont make ogryns smarter, they just give them "enough" cognitive capabilities without rising above their station.

tall plinth
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i see

queen laurel
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After all he's not called a brawler for nothing

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yes he is definitely the dumbest of the three

tall plinth
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Sometimes it certainly feels like I’m the smartest one on the team

storm jungle
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thats just your average darktide team comp

tall plinth
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Brawler is my favorite because he’s the most endearing

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He likes food

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I like food

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We’d get along

queen laurel
tall plinth
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I’ve only ever played brawler, so I thought they all had bonehead implants

queen laurel
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Bodyguard and Bully is just that naturally smart

storm jungle
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Yeah they do also talk about wanting an implant on and off

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the other teammates usually reply with saying either thats a bad idea or that they dont need one lol

queen laurel
tall plinth
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I had no idea the other two were ā€œsmarterā€

queen laurel
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he is pretty smart but he usually acts like this tough brute guy

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because this is the imperium you say your mind it usually ends in the floor

storm jungle
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Yeah hes also unlike most ogryn in media not really a good person lol

queen laurel
tall plinth
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I could get along with the bodyguard and the brawler

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The bully not so much

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Grut me I’ve been playing so much darktide that whenever I discuss warhammer I read it in the brawlers voice

queen laurel
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There's just something fun about their speaking

tall plinth
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Oh I can’t speak with any good accent

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I just hear it in my head

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Whenever I try to speak an English accent I end up with fisherman/sailor from cartoons

queen laurel
tall plinth
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lmao

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Language is fun

small grail
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malum caedo vs 40k is pure fear

rose thorn
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Huh??

small grail
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u know malum caedo ryt

rose thorn
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Yeah but your statement is what I’m confused about

storm jungle
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lmfao christ

queen laurel
gray umbra
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Average space marine fan explaining why their favorite chapter can handle every threat

young pecan
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Ykw I realized playing gunker last night

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Both veteran and ogryn have something to magically make more bullets happen to appear

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Psyker does not

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???

alpine niche
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Why would psyker need magic smh

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Ogryn simply miscounts how many bullets they have, and veterans probably yoinking ammo off corpses

young pecan
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To insert into lasgun ammo mid-cartridge every time they crit 😭

alpine niche
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Bro got that solar powered las cartridge

arctic talon
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This is getting out of hand

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Now there are two of them

storm jungle
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bro what are these HIGHLY DETAILED MINIS

arctic talon
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Because yeah they’re extremely good but

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Did she really need 3 different versions of herself lol

shadow plover
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surprisingly many LotR models have at least 3 variations

arctic talon
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I forgor

shadow plover
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one on horse back and two on foot with different weapons

arctic talon
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But they’re all very recent

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Is what I mean tbh

rocky gale
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Yea all three are coming out at the same time basically

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First one is FW Resin and the other two are Plastic

storm jungle
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of course she needs a horse

shadow plover
storm jungle
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When you know, you know.

young pecan
rocky gale
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I thought the meme was dogs

arctic talon
storm jungle
arctic talon
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It’s both iirc

storm jungle
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also yeah its both

celest dome
storm jungle
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white women are CRAZY

young pecan
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In white womens' defense

rocky gale
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I would post the Rusty Cage song but probably for the best that I don't

young pecan
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The one and only death from ||horse penetration was a man on a ranch specifically made for that back when it was legal in Washington or something||

young pecan
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White women are NOT beating the dog allegations though

green loom
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It's okay guys I shot them

storm jungle
opaque coyote
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crystal forum
thick cedar
dapper gyro
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The Wh40k secret level episode is fun, even though I have some nitpicks to it.

thick cedar
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Yeah, why are they playing on Sedition?

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And fix their internet

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they all dc'd at the same time

celest dome
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Oh, her

storm jungle
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hate this fucking chick

celest dome
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Well at least it's not GSC for once

storm jungle
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Genuinely surprised by that lol

low gazelle
paper haven
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What the hell is going on in here?

low gazelle
storm jungle
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including myself

low gazelle
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Self*

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Stupid

paper haven
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No but it is profitable

celest dome
low gazelle
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I only watch the people who have like 20 subs and do solo runs/carrys

celest dome
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They are some of the main forces behind the GSCoper before

low gazelle
paper haven
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Same I don't really watch YouTube lore channels because. Well, I read the books

celest dome
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GSC mean Genestealer cult

low gazelle
dapper gyro
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Let she be the Chaos God of hatred.

low gazelle
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I'm stupid bear w me

celest dome
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GSCoper are people who think GSC are teased for the future of the game

low gazelle
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Or theories

paper haven
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Womp womp

celest dome
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No staregryn

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Impossible

dapper gyro
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What's now...

celest dome
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Not in current lore

outer wave
paper haven
outer wave
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Whats in the future?

paper haven
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Acceptance

dapper gyro
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Destruction

outer wave
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ā˜ŗļø

storm jungle
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but like

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the AMOUNT of reaching in that gloriana genestealer video was INSANE

paper haven
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The girl himself?

storm jungle
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I actually made a model graph of the stuff she was saying were genestealers

outer wave
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The girl himself....

storm jungle
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Im reading a book on the side i cant type FUCK OOFFFF

dapper gyro
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She who thirst

outer wave
paper haven
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Reading is not time sensitive. Breathe, damn it

outer wave
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Anyway thats fair

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I got the literacy capabilities of a slug sometimes

paper haven
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This is like turning the radio in your car off so you can see better

storm jungle
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Mood

paper haven
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Which, I do all the time and still don't understand why

outer wave
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If Im head banging to a song, then yeah it does help me see better

paper haven
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Loud music make brain want to go fast but things outside are already too fast

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Therefore: make music quieter

outer wave
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Nah, make it louder so you hyperfocus on whats going on the road

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Become an adrenaline junkie behind the wheel

paper haven
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Personally, I'd rather disassociate completely and drive off of pure instinct

outer wave
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Id do that but then someone could break more suddenly than I anticipate and yeah no

paper haven
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It's actually quite dangerous since my instinct towards sudden danger is to basically crash on purpose

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Found that out the hard way

outer wave
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My initial instinct on seeing someone crossing is to immediately move quickly through so Im out of their way but its such a bad habit

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I gotta get better when dealing with pedestrians

paper haven
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Probably wise

green loom
barren prawn
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Remark 101.x ā€œWhat wins the fight is what wins the fight. Ultimately, nothing should be excluded if that exclusion leads to defeat."

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🤯 codex astartes posts when you tell them this

outer wave
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Men's motivational posts on FB be like

opaque coyote
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If I ever get a cat or dog

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Should I name it like

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"Abaddon the Despoiler"

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Or some other overly ridiculous edgy name

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Actually fuck it

What are the edgiest Warhammer names

paper haven
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I named my cats kit and kat

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Not edgy names, I just like sharing that info

tall plinth
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My friend named his cat Booger

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He found him behind a dumpster as a kitten

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When Booger was a kitten not my friend

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my friend isn’t a cat

opaque coyote
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I also thought about naming it an insult

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But I realized that I don't want to name a living thing as that

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...

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Although it would be funny to call a cat by shouting out

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"FREAKSHIT, IT'S TIME FOR DINNER"

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Despite the potential comedic value of that, I wouldn't ever actually do that because

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Well

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Getting a pet is inviting a new family member

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It is a responsibility that you have to care for.

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...

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Doesn't mean I won't give it the most ominous name ever to strike fear into people's hearts

young pecan
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I named my cat Flapjack and he grew up to be the most bitter asshole ever

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Who, lately, will only purr on occasion when I wrap my hand around his throat as if I'm choking him

tall plinth
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Freak cat

trim timber
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It’s all Magnus’s fault

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Magnus’*

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You get the point

opaque coyote
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Minecraft YouTubers after they get 1 million subs

wispy iris
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While we have the same random gen maps, VT2 has new story and maps. Why we can't have a proper story?

sacred ginkgo
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"random gen"

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What

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All of these maps are very intentionally designed

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And the new map

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Is a direct continuation

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Of the story

dapper gyro
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All maps are predetermined, clearly the person hasn't play for long.

sacred ginkgo
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Complaining about random gen

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Drg player

outer wave
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Bruh is this rage bait

wispy iris
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Everything is brown and the same

sacred ginkgo
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Have you tried using your eyes

outer wave
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Have you decided to play the video game

sacred ginkgo
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Oh wait they must be stuck in Hourglass

outer wave
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Ahhh

thick cedar
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apparently someone who was given the floor line lore for darktide for a project said the mobian domain is in segmentum solar

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its all hearsay so

outer wave
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I recall the Moebian Sector having a legit location on the galaxy map

dapper gyro
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Yes, it is canon, though on a small scale, much like Necromunda.

arctic talon
dusk patrol
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It’s right over there

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No that way

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No over there

green loom
rose thorn
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Amazon accidentally leaked a book

arctic talon
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lol

shell barn
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I’m not sure how to completely ask this question or word it but it’s just a random thought

Slaneesh is excess. Khorne is their rival

Khorne is all about taking everyone’s skull. And blood. However they spill unending blood and take unending skulls. When does that border into Slaneesh territory?

tough haven
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Khorne is about the moment, the killing blow, quickly and simply killing your foe in combat

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They dont really care about the in between

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Slaneesh is about doing everything perfectly, or about causing excessive harm to your enemies

dusk patrol
tough haven
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It would be about perfecting every bladestroke or carving a poem to slaneesh into their flesh with each strike before they die

dusk patrol
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But yes the fact that Slannesh is a broad concept is part of its power

tough haven
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Intent is huge yes

dusk patrol
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And a concern for other gods

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There is a crossover of issue there

tough haven
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Chaos gods work on metaphysical concepts, even if you're killing in the name of the emperor, even though you're killing, so long as you devote it to the Emperor, or dont relish the violence too much, you arent feeding khorne, at least as little as you can

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Thats why melee weapons affect daemons better, because its more symbolic striking an enemy down with your blade, than firing a gun from far away, it makes it more personal, more intentional

opaque coyote
opaque coyote
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Basically to put it in perspective

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A Khornate Warrior will just kill you.

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It doesn't matter how, they will if you stand in their way.

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It can be brutal but it'll always be relatively quick. It will be skillful, but it will always be simple. They don't care about how perfect a chop is or even how quick. As long as you're dead, and blood pours out, it will be good enough.

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And your skull will be taken for his throne.

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A Slaaneshi Warrior won't just kill you. They will dodge gracefully, each parry perfectly timed.

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They will make it a point not to get a single hit. Bragging about their skill. They will intentionally embarrass you. Making you look unskilled.

They will destroy your confidence, your ego, destroying you mentally before physically.

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If they don't succeed, they will get frustrated.

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And once you can't fight anymore

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...

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Well you better hope you can die before they torture you.

Or even worse than that.

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Either way

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They will have their fun.

opaque coyote
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And I am being completely unironic here.

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If having a sword cannon would be more effective

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Like... A cannon that shoots swords

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Would that be better against a Daemon?

storm jungle
plush mason
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wait was there a literal petition to get Abaddon killed off and replaced with literally any other character?

storm jungle
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No?

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Where did you hear this

plush mason
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ofc i assume if there was it was just another one of those reddit petitions

storm jungle
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I THINK you might be mixing it up with someone like Captain Tycho

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aka someone who doesnt matter

dusk patrol
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There’s probably been a petition to have Abbadon be given a bigger ass if we’re just taking any petition

storm jungle
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and its probably in r40klore

plush mason
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likely true

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internet "petitions" like that dont mean shit

storm jungle
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Yeah they dont.

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The only "your decision matters" stuff GW does atm are those warzone tourneys where you decide the fate of some random ass planet that doesnt matter.

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because as they learned in the past letting players choose bigger lore events is a disaster lol

plush mason
storm jungle
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God fuck off with that shit

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LMAO

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fucking weshammer

plush mason
#

the underlying theme of it is "the hate is mainly memes and people that only read the codex fluff"

storm jungle
#

Correct.

#

Abaddon is very much "hated" to some degree but its largely from the moronic mix of both sides of the playerbase (tabletop/lore-goers) who just dont read his lore.

#

Like hes not a deep character but he has about as much depth as most other loyalist characters people like to jerk off.

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"I love kharn hes such a badass omg he says one liners and kills people!"

plush mason
storm jungle
#

Okay good.

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My small respect for Was has been lifted

plush mason
#

yup, TTS is very much the main source of the Cato hate

storm jungle
#

Its also important to remember TTS was made in the mid 2000's 40k era where Cato was very much an arrogant dickhead.

plush mason
#

yeah

storm jungle
#

the image they made of him from that through memes unfortunately stuck with the popularity of the show

plush mason
#

it was before he got fleshed out

storm jungle
#

Yeah exactly

#

they thought at the time making fun of Ward constantly got people to clap (it did)

plush mason
#

its actually similar to Abaddon's situation, really badly writen at first and later fleshed out and improved

storm jungle
#

yeah at the end of the day hes basically the Diet-Megatron of the setting post-30k with Horus so there isnt too much you can do with him aside from that lol

plush mason
#

yup

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ofc the internet never forgets

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and thats how we end up with characters like Cato and old Abby

storm jungle
#

Yeah its mostly just whatever at the end of the day, people are stupid and parrot shit

plush mason
#

yup

dapper gyro
#

To the last 10 years we have as many renditions/editions as the 20 years before that.

#

So many stupid things happened and many retcons were done.

#

At the moment, the SM people are trying to argue with specialist/subclass that each chapter should get since no one seems to agree with Saber.

storm jungle
#

That is largely just a GW thing

#

theres a deleted twitter thread where one of the devs listed almost half the shit GW didnt allow them to do for various reasons

#

(you can guess why said thread was deleted lol)

dapper gyro
#

Like IF gets to be tactical while UM gets heavy...

storm jungle
#

Yeah it just gets messy.

#

At the end of the day SM2 is a vehicle to sell Primaris

#

they dont want to muddle it up

dapper gyro
#

Salamander wankers are all pissed because they get an Eliminator instead of literally anything else.

#

It is honestly funny.

storm jungle
#

Cant make anyone happy alas

plush mason
#

ok, i had no idea they just dropped Erda like half way into the HH with 0 build up

storm jungle
#

Yeah read her lexi page

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thats basically it lol

#

She appears and dies the next book or so

plush mason
#

yeah thats so lame

plush mason
storm jungle
#

Yeap.

plush mason
#

so she cant be truly killed

storm jungle
#

She went like full jojo and fought 4 greater daemons at once lol and had some super magic power not tied to the warp lol

storm jungle
#

so shes dead-dead until the plot wants her back in the future prob

plush mason
#

wait so the word bearers all just happen to have a blade that can perma kill a purpetual?

storm jungle
#

Look just dont question it

plush mason
#

lmao

storm jungle
plush mason
#

fair

storm jungle
#

Its... just convoluted

#

the entirety of the Siege is a mess

plush mason
#

i can see that

#

between this stuff with Erda and this John dude it sounds like a real clusterfuck

storm jungle
#

Yeah any confusions just skim the lexi

plush mason
#

and like, why the fuck was she the maiden mother and crone?

storm jungle
#

because motherhood symbology

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or some shit

plush mason
#

ofc that specific goddess has been used in many fictions

storm jungle
#

yep-yep

plush mason
#

so not too surprising on second though

storm jungle
#

yeah 40k loves basic mythological symbology stuff

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like how Amar Astarte made the Astartes lol

plush mason
#

the purpetals themselves are just weird and confusing

storm jungle
#

they go DEEP

#

probably one of the most universally hated parts of the Heresy by some people

plush mason
#

they are nether human or xeno nor warp being

storm jungle
#

No they are human

#

just "evolved" lol

plush mason
#

evolved to the point of not being human lol

dapper gyro
#

When in doubt, blame Tzeentch.

plush mason
#

when in doubt stop thinking about it

storm jungle
#

Both of these are very true

plush mason
#

this Wyrdmake guy is on the other end of the spectum, a character made to be hated and done very well

pine wedge
#

just focus on the primarchs like goddamn

dusk patrol
#

Also: Redditors learning chapters don't just use the stock stereotype preferred tactic all the time and can branch out.

plush mason
dusk patrol
#

Truuuuuuuuuue

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Also people keep saying the Imperial Fist should be heavy, mfer Imperial Fists would definitely be Tactical marine if any.

#

They’re the most ā€œstandard marine chapterā€ of them all.

#

Also there’s more chapters than classes, they can share

plush mason
#

aka, fortify fortify fortify

dusk patrol
#

These people probably don’t even know that Raven Guard deploy terminators and full frontal assaults when they need to and often

#

A preference for something is just that, a preference. Chapters, for the most part, obviously not all, use all options we know of if needed

#

They just have tendencies and preferred choices

plush mason
#

yup

storm jungle
dusk patrol
#

I was trying to explain to a dude the other day who was trying to tell some new guy how Iron Hands wouldn’t have Reivers

#

Like, yes they would mfer

#

There are sneaky boy iron hands

plush mason
dusk patrol
#

It’s just not their main thing and it’s not the typical approach

plush mason
#

but thats because no one sane uses the Reivers on TT

dusk patrol
#

Well at least they’re ok in KT

#

That’s something

plush mason
dapper gyro
#

Infiltrator is the must for any SM TT.

#

IF is a legion focus on firepower, but they need cover and protection, which is why, on TT, IF army with bladeguard are stronger. They have mobile cover to actually shoot at things.

#

However, the SM game players want to combine the two, so there is the Gravis Intercessor...

pine wedge
#

Everything I know about pre-Imperial Terra and people has been against my will

#

That information and those characters shouldn't exist

plush mason
#

lmao

scenic bolt
#

give it a decade before we get wh20k

plush mason
#

oh lord, going back to the DAOT would be wild

#

and possibly a mistake

tough haven
#

Maybe the user would have to really truly think that it’s the best weapon against daemons?

celest dome
#

Just do 1k

tough haven
#

I had an idea for a nightclub/art gallery in the lower hive that’s an old repurposed diamantine mine, for the wealthy who are ā€œslumming itā€ and for a select few commoners who’ve earned an invitation either through money or attention, but I’m struggling on how that might look, I want it to look fancy, but like underhive fancy, as in ā€œholy shit the walls aren’t rustyā€

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And trying to find a good mix between its original architecture and its new purpose

celest dome
#

Rough hewn walls, with accented golden pillars, the arts range from Servitor Sculptures to paintings

tough haven
#

My vague floor plan is you step down some stairs, past the guards into the entrance, which leads you to a large statue gallery of anything from stone statues of the emperor to human bone carvings and Aeldari bas-reliefs, directly connected to the gallery is a spa area and nightclub section

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And then through a secret passage behind a banner in the staff passages opens up to an elevator that takes you down to a xenotech auction house in the actual mine section

tough haven
#

Like carved out quarry walls with like gilded marble pillars and flooring?

tough haven
#

Generally speaking Would a Ranger willingly die trying to recover a soul stone? Or would they attempt to flee and try again if things get dire?

#

Not really sure if rangers display the same willingness to throw their lives away for soul stones as some craft worlders

storm jungle
#

No use to really lay down your life if you can get another chance to retrieve it in a future oppoturnity either

tough haven
storm jungle
#

Same deal.

#

Theres excerpts where Eldar groups/hosts sometimes wait almost a century or more to recover some artifact lol

tough haven
#

That’s true

#

They can just kinda wait for whoever has it to die

storm jungle
#

Yeah basically picture yourself a upstanding smart human trying to recover your stuff from a den of gorillas

#

your main thought would be "well maybe they will lose interest" or "I can wait and get it later" lmao

tough haven
#

I’m just trying to determine how urgent it should be for this character to recover a soul stone of a close comrade

storm jungle
#

Always put yourself in their shoes first, rushing ahead and dying needlessly wouldnt really help his cause at all

tough haven
#

Trying to kinda use the outcast in wraithbone Phoenix as a template

storm jungle
#

Yeah thats what i was also thinking KEKW_ogryn

#

(even if the ending of that book was dogshit)

tough haven
#

What was their motivation for moving to get it at that time and almost dying?

tough haven
#

Rest of the book was peak though

storm jungle
#

Yeah I know, its what pissed me off

#

the book was great until that point

tough haven
storm jungle
tough haven
#

Was not expecting that

storm jungle
tough haven
#

Yeah

storm jungle
#

why does the eldar character need to go through that aside from "womp womp"

#

anyway that aside

storm jungle
#

probably important to whichever craftworld she hailed from

tough haven
storm jungle
#

Same

tough haven
storm jungle
#

Because some humans discovered it in a lot less fortified space (a literal junkyard of a ship)

#

its like hitting a bank truck in transit

#

the "perfect oppoturnity" kind of thing

#

Otherwise it'd probably end up in some governor's case or somewhere harder to get compared to the slums

tough haven
#

Along with other Aeldari artifacts

#

But the stone is the main concern as the loss of their comrades from their previous aspect was the driving force for this ranger to become an outcast, to find each one of their stones to return them to the circuit

#

But like if four homeless people (the party) attack her, she’d probably be like ā€œyeah I can take themā€

#

Or maybe it would be the opposite? Like ā€œI’m too superior for this shitā€

#

I suppose I could determine their reaction on a check, like if their resolve is strong enough to put up with this bullshit

storm jungle
#

always take the smartest route when dealing with what are essentially a pack of racoons

rocky gale
#

Yoo just watched the 40k Secret Level

#

Me trying to get to the food at the family gathering

plush mason
rocky gale
#

Not watched all the Secret levels though, just 40k and D&D

#

D&D one was better

dapper gyro
#

Psyker gets carried by the Orgryn bros. Accurate.

plush mason
#

oh lords the secret level intro has a gamecube homage

tough haven
rocky gale
#

Dunno what they put in the D&D one but it had me getting all misty eyed

plush mason
#

yeah that was good, and a good way to start off imo

#

also a Goliath paladin is a horrifying concept

#

boarder line immortal

tough haven
#

The 40K one was just ā€œlook, big guy shoot little guyā€ except you can’t see shit half the time

#

Like I know it’s supposed to be bolterporn but I literally had no clue what they were doing or why for half of it besides ā€œLook! It’s the guy from the video game!ā€

#

Couldn’t imagine someone who doesn’t know 40K

plush mason
#

ok yeah the SM episode is just pure powerfantasy

#

Titus shoulderchecking through a whole ass buggy

rose thorn
#

Realized they might tie Beasts of chaos into the chaos dwarf faction when it releases

#

With characters like shator

plush mason
#

that daemon whatever it was looked like something right out of Diablo lol

rose thorn
#

I think it’s people mutated by the bull god of industry or something

plush mason
#

not that

rose thorn
#

Oh sorry

plush mason
#

the secret level

rose thorn
#

The cow level?

plush mason
#

nah the amazon show

rose thorn
#

Lmao

plush mason
#

the 40k short

rose thorn
#

The blood letters?

plush mason
#

it was good but pure SM powerwank

outer wave
#

Its pure bolter porn but its basically what Astartes was so

plush mason
#

yeah

#

ok the pac-man short is not at all what i expected

rigid dune
#

So what is stopping mechanicus from just making thier own space marines?

arctic talon
#

Laws

dapper gyro
#

Inquisition and high lords.

arctic talon
#

also they do have equivelents

#

in lore

#

Mid ranked Myrmidons > marines generally

#

Thallax are a marine equivelent

storm jungle
#

read the lore you fucking weeb

dapper gyro
#

Even among themselves, many of them think of creating biological being as insult to the machine god.

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

but yeah Myrmidons are like

#

better then marines generally

#

there's just a lot less of them

storm jungle
#

The funniest part is

#

my first reaction reading that was

arctic talon
#

and also myrmidons are like

#

very unhinged

storm jungle
#

"They's say space marines are cringe and big robot servitors better"

arctic talon
#

they love murder lol

#

I mean the techpriest smh

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

Big murder servitors good

#

as well

#

but too dumb to do what marine do

#

they no have the brain power smh

storm jungle
#

the other thing is like

#

space marines contrary to popular belief are not the peak form of waging war lol

#

they are literally tankman commandoes

rigid dune
#

There is no limit to how much a ork can grow correct?

storm jungle
#

Yes

rigid dune
#

They just get bigger from fighting?

arctic talon
#

yes

storm jungle
#

Yeah orks grow gradually the more they fight

#

the problem is

#

they die

#

a lot

#

only a few warbosses actually properly survive constant campaigns

rigid dune
#

Are they farmable? I've heard that they are based and spread around due to spores?

arctic talon
#

yeah most warbosses die

#

in their first WAAAAAAAAAAGH

rose thorn
#

Of course

arctic talon
#

ork meat just sucks

#

to eat

#

Squigs are tasty

#

but if you have squigs you'll have orks

rigid dune
#

Would tyranids care about that?

arctic talon
#

only one hive fleet engages in "farming"

rigid dune
#

Like why don't the tyranids just farm orks?

storm jungle
#

Because why would they

arctic talon
#

^

storm jungle
#

orks dont provide all the shit the ywant

arctic talon
#

The galaxy is an all you can eat buffet

#

lol

storm jungle
#

this is like asking "why dont we just infinitel farm tomatoes and nothing else"

#

lol

#

would you like eating 1 kind of food that provides largely nothing to you all day

#

also what fucking hivefleet is gonna sit on a single planet for years waiting for orks to grow

arctic talon
#

Tiamet

#

but they have a lot of worlds for "farming"

rigid dune
#

Isn't that what they are doing with the cults tho? just sit and wait?

arctic talon
#

no

#

the cults infiltrate a world

#

and they send out a beacon

#

they ring the dinner bell

storm jungle
#

^

#

Cults are a literal corrosive parasite to help their invasion

#

they arent about cultivating or feeding them, they are just extra help

dapper gyro
#

Tyrannids consume the organic material, assimilate to be more precise.

#

So do the Orks.

#

Eventually, the raw organic materials will run out.

storm jungle
#

Its not even that tbh

#

its just not viable

#

Tyranids absolutely consume every single biological thing a planet has, down to its atmosphere and multi-process that to all the stuff they got as units/can make

#

Orks would provide basically almost nothing aside from base "meat"

dapper gyro
#

Yes, however, there is that Kryptman? story...

arctic talon
#

They also consume a lot of like

#

non organic material

#

mmmmm tasty metal

#

and some rocks

storm jungle
#

and it completely backfired as the Nids won the campaign

#

its an entire can of worms

#

well that and they also consume the planets they defeated the orks on too so lol

arctic talon
#

Warzone Octarius

#

is my favorite self inflicted shitshow

dapper gyro
#

That's what I meant above. Eventually, everything are consumed, there is no forever farming.

#

The tyrannids got a fleet, while the orks got less than a world.

plush mason
arctic talon
#

Warzone octarius is my favorite one though

#

lol

#

because if the imperium didn't start poking at it

#

it would have been fine LOL

dapper gyro
#

Because it is dumb

plush mason
#

agreed mainly because its an unmitigated nid W and nids are my fav faction

dapper gyro
#

(not from a narrative pov)

plush mason
#

ah the Armored Core episode

tough haven
arctic talon
#

Tiamet

arctic talon
plush mason
#

whatever it is has the imperium worried iirc

plush mason
arctic talon
#

oh I don't have an issue with it

#

I just think its funny

tough haven
#

The pac man episode was at least interesting, a cool twist

plush mason
#

agreed

#

did not expect them to do anything like that

dapper gyro
arctic talon
#

Its not from AC6

#

because the booster is from AC4

#

or rather For answer

storm jungle
#

and all my friends raid it and eat my crops

#

guh

plush mason
arctic talon
#

Also iirc via Word of God its confirmed not to be in the AC6 continuity

plush mason
#

makes sense, AC has many continuities

arctic talon
#

Found it

#

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#

its its own continuity

plush mason
#

yeah

dapper gyro
#

Oh well

plush mason
#

i have heard that the president of Fromsoft is planning to leave the souls games to other directors and focus on AC for now

dapper gyro
#

AC has like 4 continuities already.

plush mason
#

ye

dapper gyro
#

Between AC4 and AC5, there is a blur line of same/different continuity

arctic talon
#

AC4 and 5 are the same one

dapper gyro
#

Because of the Spirit of Motherwill

arctic talon
#

also the final boss is literally a NEXT

plush mason
#

i wonder if the next AC game will feature the NEXTs of ACFA

arctic talon
#

this fucking thing lol

#

imo without a doubt cements it as the same timeline

dapper gyro
#

It is just that there is so few dots of that connect the 2 before then.

#

Aside from some of the code names like Raven, Nine-ball/Nightfall, etc.

arctic talon
#

yeah thats true

#

tbh AC1 and 2 are def the same timeline

#

and 3+ all its sequals is its own I think?

dapper gyro
#

AC1 and 2 are the only true direct sequence.

dusk patrol
#

Uh I’m pressure sure all the AC games are in sequence.

plush mason
dusk patrol
#

Assassins Creed is a series

arctic talon
dusk patrol
#

Although they’ve basically given up on the modern day element

#

Thank god

plush mason
dusk patrol
#

I mean they technically all are

plush mason
#

they are more of a spin off really

dusk patrol
#

Even for Ezio it’s chronological

spare osprey
#

cause now we know why the episode was like that

#

with that new pac man game they showed off at the game awards

plush mason
#

oh

dusk patrol
#

Smh not calling it Pac Man

plush mason
#

ikr

dusk patrol
#

Cowards

spare osprey
plush mason
#

oh yeah that was

dusk patrol
#

Unironically biggest surprise of the awards to me

#

That and Statler and Waldorf

plush mason
#

but the rest wasnt but thats only for the original games

dusk patrol
#

Who killed it

spare osprey
#

loooooved statler and waldorf

dusk patrol
#

ā€œHey, did you know Geoff Keighly and Kojima are friends?ā€

ā€œYes but does Kojima know that?ā€

plush mason
#

they where at the game awards?

dusk patrol
#

Yeah they were pretty great too

spare osprey
#

mhm

dusk patrol
plush mason
#

damn, makes me regret not watching it

spare osprey
#

as was snoop dogg and twenty one pilots

#

strange line up

dusk patrol
#

They showed up a couple times

#

Honestly very solid lines

spare osprey
#

wonder how much they paid harrison ford to be there lol

dusk patrol
#

Props to Geoff for letting them roast him like that

dusk patrol
#

But he also does like Indy

spare osprey
#

true true

dusk patrol
#

Indy and Bladerunner were his two things he loved the most

#

He doesn’t like Star Wars cause all he got ever asked about

plush mason
dusk patrol
#

They really should show up at more things

plush mason
#

ikr

dapper gyro
#

Imagine EA paid for an episode of Secret Level for Dead Space.

storm jungle
#

But knowing EA they'd go "nah cant waste money on a bad IP"

plush mason
#

.....

dusk patrol
#

They’ll dig it up again for a sequel eventually here

storm jungle
#

Hopefully they do

#

Dead Space is goated

#

idgaf if it doesnt sell enough

#

i need DS content

plush mason
#

its in the "in case of emergency break glass" box

#

for when they need to make bank quickly

storm jungle
#

way too close to reality lol

dapper gyro
#

They have that and Mass Effect

plush mason
#

lets face it, most of the major publishers have a chest of those just laying around waiting to be open

dapper gyro
#

After the Dragon Age this year, that one is gone.

plush mason
storm jungle
plush mason
#

yup

#

if ME tanks like DA did bioware will be the latest addition

storm jungle
#

but

#

then WHERE will i get my alien NSFW

shadow plover
#

Didn't Andromeda tank already

#

or was it so forgettable you already forgot it existed

plush mason
#

that was a spin off

#

so ME4 is the make or break for most people

#

and i liked VG, but i do not doubt that it lost money

crystal forum
crystal forum
#

i've got the type of porn that scars you for life

plush mason
spare osprey
spare osprey
tough haven
shadow plover
#

You can just look at the Halo Wars or Halo 2 Anniversary cinematics, those are made by the same studio

spare osprey
#

they even had captain cutter's actor from halo wars 2 in the unreal tourney episode

rocky gale
#

Halo's unfortunately probably got an exclusive deal with Paramount

dapper gyro
spare osprey
tough haven
# spare osprey heard, haven't seen much

There’s not much to see yet besides a decent technical beta, but I think it’s got potential to be the titanfall content we’ll never get otherwise

rose thorn
#

hello lore chat

plush mason
#

hi

opaque coyote
tough haven
#

Its terrifying and amazing

opaque coyote
#

Honestly I know the ending is debated about to this day

#

Whether one of them is the thing or both of them

#

But personally I actually prefer none of them

#

Like The Thing is dead

#

But the both are so paranoid

#

So afraid

#

That they just sit there and die

#

Unsure and unknowing whether The Thing is dead

#

It cost them everything to defeat it

#

Their friends, their sanity, their sense of safety

arctic talon
#

It’s neither iirc

opaque coyote
#

And in the end, their lives.

arctic talon
#

You can see both their breaths

opaque coyote
#

Also the 2011 prequel

#

Wasn't bad

#

Not close the original but it isn't like

#

A blight to it

#

I also really liked the ending sequence since it's a smooth transition to the beginning of the original film

soft thunder
#

So in SM2 is ther any lore on MAgos Galeo? I have a lot of questions

#

Like is he the big machine chair or the generic techpriest sitting in it

arctic talon
#

Magos Galeo is the dude

#

Though he might be fused to it

opaque coyote
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Maybe both

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Maybe the machine chair is like

A storage of his memories

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Like he sits there and basically stores what he did day to day

soft thunder
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external brain hard drive

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and gamer chair

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I like him he's a homie

opaque coyote
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Literally just this but mechanical:

young pecan
arctic talon
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Yeah

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They were really cold so no breath

young pecan
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I thought I remembered seeing one of them without their jewellery (earring) but I could be wrong

arctic talon
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Or weren’t breathing

opaque coyote
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Proves that they did someTHING right

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ba dum tss

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Seriously though

soft thunder
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great practical effect tend to have that effect

opaque coyote
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Also the fact that the transformations are fucking horrific

young pecan
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I do not understand how publishers are so surprised that when you let a team go wild and actually be creative, that audiences love it

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Why is it so... alien to them :^)

opaque coyote
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Although tbf The Thing was actually panned by critics when it released

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Too Nihilistic

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But considering the things that happened afterwards. Now it's considered to be a masterpiece

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Reminds me of that one quote

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"You guys might not be ready for it, but the kids will love it."

dapper gyro
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Most of the horror movies at the time are so bad.

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The critics back then were following the trench of what was popular, not what is timeless, since The Thing is one of the very few films of that era to hold up well.

rocky gale
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Unfortunately the prequel movie was butchered by the studio during the edit

plush mason