40k-lore-chat

[crystal forum]

and FW ones

[outer wave]

That helm be angry pogging

[rocky gale]

Mk 3 is alright

[outer wave]

MK3 is the Iron Warriors helmet right?

Cuz that is a good helmet

[rocky gale]

Beakies are somewhere between Mk 3 and Mk 7, but closer to Mk 3

[paper haven]

He looks happy

[wintry scarab]

Ive said this a bunch of times and ill say it again. Mk5. Coolest imo

[rocky gale]

Oh yea Mk 5, I always forget about Mk 5

[crystal forum]

mk5 is weird because there's not supposed to be a standard look

but FW landed on studded mark 7

[opaque coyote]

I like the beak helmets

Because Beak

[outer wave]

I havent seen this one before, but its cool in its weirdness

[rocky gale]

Mk 5 is just Mk 7 but actually good

[opaque coyote]

And also Knights

[opaque coyote]

And also with BALLS

On its pauldrons

[dapper gyro]

Phobos helm is good imo

[hallow saddle]

the mk 7 helmets looked good in Astartes

[crystal forum]

you're supposed to be able to mix and match armours together to get mark 5

[rocky gale]

I need a helmet with BALLS

[opaque coyote]

Yeah Mark 5 in lore is basically just

[crystal forum]

so a mark 2,3,4,6 helmet could all be on mark 5 suits

[opaque coyote]

A bunch of shit slapped together in a desperate attempt to like

Make defensive armor

[hallow saddle]

there was mk 5 production armour

that is actually made properly and not scavenged

then there's mk 5 heresy which is whatever could be used

theres some artificer mk 5 too

[opaque coyote]

I honestly think the scavenged look is the best.

Honestly I think more CSMs in general should be wearing that

Lol

[hallow saddle]

yeah

[crystal forum]

mark 4 is still supposed to be the cream of the crop comparatively

[wintry scarab]

For me, from bottom to top, these are the best looking marks.

[dapper gyro]

The mk5 is the original mk10. It has production, and the goat was to make it compatible with the previous one, to be more modular to savage stuff on the field.

[wintry scarab]

And mk8 as well. Seeing as they basically look the same as the mk7

[hallow saddle]

i sooo want them to re-do mk 4 marines

the current ones look so dinky

and the helmets aren't crisp

[opaque coyote]

The 3rd mark 7 helmet.

[crystal forum]

if by modular you mean slapped together and welded lol

[rocky gale]

If I had to rate I'd probably say

1st - Mk 10
2nd - Mk 3
3rd - Mk 5
4th - Mk 6
5th - Mk 4
6th - Mk 7

[crystal forum]

what about mark 2 (everybody forgets it)

[hallow saddle]

mk 6 at the bottom for me (sorry nerds)

[crystal forum]

mark 2 is a mark 3 with a unibrow

[dapper gyro]

Yes

[rocky gale]

Does Mk 2 even have like a canon design?

[opaque coyote]

Isn't Mark 3 basically just the Mark 2 but with more armor in exchange for mobility

[wintry scarab]

Why is mk4 so low down? Its basically the same as mk10 but long. Aaaaaaaaand mk4 is better.

[crystal forum]

yep

[rocky gale]

It is not

[green loom]

Btw if anyone was paying attention to the credits

[hallow saddle]

sorry you guys are too crude to appreciate the wonderful mk 4 armour

[crystal forum]

it's literally a mark 3 with less pieces attached

[hallow saddle]

yeah i watched all the credits looking for him!

[wintry scarab]

How was it? Without spoilers.

[hallow saddle]

great but not as good as astartes

[green loom]

Boring, but really fucking good action

[crystal forum]

https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Power-Armour-MK-III-IF.jpg
mark 3 for reference

[green loom]

Basically just peak Space Marine content lol

[hallow saddle]

the violence felt a little cartoony

[crystal forum]

@rocky gale you have to admit the singular visor is baller

[gray umbra]

Best power armor

[crystal forum]

also something something old lore says mark 2 helmet cant even swivel but fuck that

[crystal forum]

they hated him because he spoke the truth

mark 1 is awesome

[wintry scarab]

Also, how long is it?

[hallow saddle]

less than 15 mins

[green loom]

Ye

[gray umbra]

Painting skulls on your faceplate is for pussies. All you need is a firm grimace

[wintry scarab]

Oh. That kinda sucks

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/dredd-burn-watching-apathy-karl-urban-gif-20285124

[dapper gyro]

The arbites have better armour look than the SM

[crystal forum]

imo GW overly 40k'd the judge look but yeah it's nice

[wintry scarab]

They have a goofy ass name tho

[shadow plover]

Hell yeah, was very much expecting this

[rocky gale]

Mk 10 is pretty flat in the face, while Mk 4 slopes down and outward at the face and mouth which makes me think of a ducks bill

[cold parrot]

mk3 > beakie > darth vader > the others

[outer wave]

Based

[green loom]

Also I was right about the Sergeant VA

[cold parrot]

aren't MK4 and MK10 basically the same?

[rocky gale]

No

[cold parrot]

(helmet-wise)

[green loom]

Mk4 is weird

Mk10 is very round, Mk4 is 2 flat planes

[rocky gale]

It's not really noticeable from the front which is how most pictures show them, but you can see it from the side

[wintry scarab]

One last thing about the episode. I was gonna watch it with my normie dad. He has no clue about 40k or anything. He can bearly speak english. Do you think someone like that could still get some enjoyment from this or nah?

[green loom]

There is

3 lines of dialogue

I think you're fine

Like 2 lines from the sarge and 1 from Titus and that's it lmao

[rocky gale]

It also varies from model to model/ artwork to artwork just how much it slopes, some are more flat and quite similar to Mk 10 while in others they basically look like modified Beakies

[tough haven]

@storm jungle thoughts on this ranger dialogue, does it sound believable?

“The man you are looking for, this “Scrimshaw”, he has stolen something from me, The very item you are seeking. And I would see it returned to its rightful owners, it must be placed into trustworthy hands. If you find him, you must return it to me”

[crystal forum]

larmoth give mark 2 opinion

[rocky gale]

I will judge Mk 2 solely off of this artwork

I like it

[wintry scarab]

Can we all agree that this mk10 is the worst tho? I hate these things.

[rocky gale]

Yes

[shadow plover]

Infiltrators are fine

[rocky gale]

Hate Phobos designs, especially most of the helmets

One or two of the varient Phobos helmets are alright

[gray umbra]

I like phobos

[storm jungle]

Very dumb and stupid

[gray umbra]

Powered skinny jeans

[wintry scarab]

Phobos has grown on me. Those cyclops looking asses have not.

[rose thorn]

*note to self, put HH DG helmets on normal marines

[gray umbra]

Phobos with the mk8 helmet look okay

[shadow plover]

this is a nice look

[gray umbra]

Not a fan of the masks though

[rocky gale]

Really not a fan of Phobos, like I get why people might like them but I really dislike their look

I like my boys chonky

[wintry scarab]

imo they look cool. Especially when you stuff them with ornaments and gear. When theyve got nothing on them they tend to look a bit more goofy.

[rocky gale]

[dapper gyro]

I like Phobos, they look slick.

[wintry scarab]

If those were replacements for terminators, my opinion would be :(. But they are not so 🙂

Man, terminators are just so god damn cool

[rocky gale]

Oh yea Terminators are also good, glad they made them side by side rather than replacements

[outer wave]

I like the idea of visors, but the fact they're almost all bald makes them look silly

[storm jungle]

They were very mcuh suppose to be imo

GW just realised Termies are way too iconic to be replaced

fucking corpos

[rocky gale]

Well atleast I got my Gravis babies

[wintry scarab]

Yeah, thats why i didnt like them at first. Now i think theyre fine. My main issue (big shocker) is the mk10 maximus style helmets. Theyre god damn everywhere.

[gray umbra]

The maximus masks are okay

Just more annoying primaris are larger so backwards compatibility is an issue

[wintry scarab]

Too much of a good thing makes a good thing bad

[gray umbra]

Bevause they have to be better than firstborn

Or something

[shadow plover]

Primaris helmets are still pretty much the same scale as Tac Marines' helmets because the scale change meant just a larger torso and limbs

[gray umbra]

I think everyone agrees primaris shouldve been a kit upgrade instead of a new generation of space marines

Like model wise or physiologically?

[storm jungle]

Yeah the primaris change has always been stupid in executin

you can literally resize their models + say the MkX shit is just new equipment by Cawl

but no we needed uh

Cawl's Dickfurnace

or whatever that new organ is

[rocky gale]

Primaris was an attempt to let Space Marine players have their cake and eat it

[storm jungle]

TLDR: Sloppa

[rocky gale]

Was basically a lore reason why they would have armies with new biggermodels and still be using their smaller old models

[dapper gyro]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/f/f5/InvictorMini.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190911211448

[storm jungle]

People that defend this thing legit need to be shot

[dapper gyro]

Anyone remember this thing?

[storm jungle]

lmfao

i wish i didnt

[rocky gale]

There's no defending that

[wintry scarab]

Agreed. (in minecraft)

[shadow plover]

HEAVY BOLTER SIDEARM HEAVY BOLTER SIDEARM HEAVY BOLTER SIDEARM HEAVY BOLTER SIDEARM HEAVY BOLTER SIDEARM HEAVY BOLTER SIDEARM

COOLEST SHIT

[rocky gale]

Wait, we need to see the one where it's holding a gun

[dapper gyro]

They originally wanted to replace Dread with that shit.

[storm jungle]

I had a friend say "this is literally space marines ripping off an imperial knight"

and i was like

"NOOOOO"

[outer wave]

I mean, its kinda cool, but makes me wonder why they're taking the niche of dreadnoughts

[storm jungle]

its a stealth suit

🙂

[outer wave]

THATS STEALTH?!

Space Marine definition of stealth more like

Honestly if it were a bit bigger, had a different general shape, I think it'd be pretty cool

[gray umbra]

Their definition of stealth is a cameoline cloak on top of bright blue ultramarine carapace

[outer wave]

Man

[storm jungle]

hes COOKED

[outer wave]

Why cant space marines just idk

Slap cloaking or something onto a dreadnought?

Make a huge ass cape

[storm jungle]

something-something

"omg its too costly"

cocksucker makes a giant robot

ok sure pal

[outer wave]

OKAY BUT A DREADNOUGHT WITH A HUGE ASS CLOAKCAPE WOULD BE BOTH REALLY SILLY AND COOL

[queen laurel]

too costly he said to the empire that makes war machines that have cathedrals on top of them

[dapper gyro]

Of all things with Primaris, the infiltrator squad is the only thing I find nice. And sometimes the Gravis armor.

[wintry scarab]

Same as their answer to claiming the galaxy being mostly melee combat.

[outer wave]

I just think the suit is mostly needless

And quite bizarre too since dreadnoughts are typically going to get that sort of mech treatment

"Mech" treatment

[gray umbra]

Come at me bro

[storm jungle]

Tiny Baby Man

[outer wave]

Okay but that one at least looks a little different

Its much taller and such but yeah still quite needless

[young pecan]

That reminds me of that one bad tattoo where it's a chest tattoo that makes the actual head look like a big baby piloting a UFO

[outer wave]

Thats awful and very accurate

[storm jungle]

LMAOOO

also any dumbass that defends this also needs to be put in timeout

[young pecan]

Found it

[plush mason]

https://x.com/ign/status/1866416733176689008?s=46 its officially happening now

IGN (@IGN) on X

Games Workshop and Amazon have finalized their deal for Henry Cavill's Warhammer 40,000 Cinematic Universe. https://t.co/FunLP6b60M

Twitter · Dec 10, 2024, 9:36 AM

[storm jungle]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[spare osprey]

I honestly just like this

For stealing the sword purposes

[storm jungle]

bUT

BUT-

I thought henry was gonna leave because WOKE

[spare osprey]

I have seen

[storm jungle]

[spare osprey]

So many of those comments on the announcements

[storm jungle]

Its actually maddening ngl

[spare osprey]

“Oh awesome just don’t make it woke” buddy take a fuckin shower

[storm jungle]

why do you mfers assume this guy is an basement incel like you

jesus christ lmao

[spare osprey]

Legit

[outer wave]

Le WOKEISM

[storm jungle]

WOKE UP THIS MORNING

GOT MYSELF

SOME GABAGOOL

[outer wave]

I woke up, then realized I was woke.....

😔

[spare osprey]

WOKE UP, GOOD MORNING LIBERAL, I LOVE YOU

[storm jungle]

😔

[outer wave]

Im terrified guys.....

[gray umbra]

Theres gonna be a female imperial guard character or something and reddit is going to lose their minds

[storm jungle]

bro did you see SM2 on launch

"omg a indian cadian female officer that appears for 30s KILL HER"

"OH MY GOD TITUS' TEAMMATES HAVE A BLACK AND ASIAN GUY"

fuck me at least try to hide your racism

[gray umbra]

Lololol

[storm jungle]

Klan rallies got more subtlety

[spare osprey]

Genuinely so annoying

[storm jungle]

genuinely

[outer wave]

Indian woman thats leading a regiment?! In my Space Marine game? Say it isnt so!

[gray umbra]

Its going to be something incredibly mundane and commonplace

[shadow plover]

As long as this or the Centurion exists there is no reason to call out anything else being too silly

[storm jungle]

Im trying to watch the new animation and again its "Titus' mentor was BLACK?"

[spare osprey]

I saw this one dude who didn’t even know about warhammer say having a black space marine is incorrect because all space marines are clones of their father

[gray umbra]

And its gonna create some shitstorm

[spare osprey]

And I’m like

[storm jungle]

skdflsdkflsdfk I KNOW THAT DUDE

[spare osprey]

How big is the dent on your head

[storm jungle]

HES LITERALLY A FUCKING NAZI

[dapper gyro]

The most important part of all that metal is the guy dude's head, which is unarmoured...

[outer wave]

Ive heard alot of that with Tight Ass's teammates

"Wait, you can't be black, you'll just be white and blonde like Guilliman!"

[storm jungle]

Aryan.........

[gray umbra]

Did anyone say anything about the captain being obviously scottish

[spare osprey]

And why is it impossible for a woman with brown skin to be a higher up in the imperial guard. Like it’s the entire galaxy we’re talking about

You sound insane

[storm jungle]

Because uhhh

master race idk

[storm jungle]

Nah because hes white

[outer wave]

Da Ubermensch....

[storm jungle]

lmao

[shadow plover]

can't wait until they find out what race the Emperor is

[celest dome]

What has I came in on

[storm jungle]

Like what i hate is people also go "oh come on people dont react like this" mfer i literally cannot go to social media while actively avoiding this shit without it STILL popping up on my feed.

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wolfenstein-wolf3d-blazkowicz-bj-gif-5954209929260538090

[outer wave]

Talking about Space Marine 2 weird racist shiinanigans and what would be funny for the Amazon show to pull

[storm jungle]

^

mostly spwaned from the MCU being confirmed

I mean 40KCU

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/dented-head-head-smile-gif-12205170

[spare osprey]

Literally

And it’s just for diverging everything atp

[storm jungle]

yeah its just media garbage

really wish i could just tune it out

[spare osprey]

I saw a post talking about the new Indiana jones game and being able to beat up nazis

[storm jungle]

oh god

[spare osprey]

And people in the comments were upset

Like

HUH

[storm jungle]

UPSET?

[outer wave]

Bluesky seems to be better for that, but I also dont see alot of 40k discourse on that site

[storm jungle]

EXCUSE ME???

Okay i gotta fucking find this post

[outer wave]

Bruh

[queen laurel]

It's that time of the conversation is it

[outer wave]

I think people are way too up their own ass about politics nowadays

[queen laurel]

All right let me get my bucket of popcorn

[shadow plover]

there are a couple lists that you can follow people automatically on which will fill the feed nicely with warhammer stuff

[outer wave]

I should do that

I would like to mix my recommends up with warhammer art and discussions

[queen laurel]

Does warhammer have a blue sky account

[outer wave]

Discussions, not you know, whatever twitter does

[shadow plover]

actually not sure

not yet I think

[outer wave]

Yeah didnt think so

Its only recently that some companies are moving to Bluesky

[spare osprey]

literally “I can sense the tone in this post”

[outer wave]

You know those lists btw?

[shadow plover]

I'm searching for one as we speak

[spare osprey]

Like I’m sorry but if you get upset at a post saying you can beat nazis, you might be a Nazi

[outer wave]

Thank you in advance

[queen laurel]

Look i know you should always ignore these people but like how am i supposed to ignore people if i literally encounter stuff like this even when i avoid to

[plush mason]

ikr

[queen laurel]

Like i am trying but it's literally so vitriol powered that it literally spills over to my f****** feed

[outer wave]

Yeah I really just try and avoid social media alltogether

[plush mason]

thats the smartest move

social media is a cancer even on the best of days

[outer wave]

I barely use facebook outside of the marketplace and for friends, Bluesky is just to look around at cool art, and twitter is similar

[queen laurel]

since we're in that topic i found this

If you know what this means keep it to yourself because I do not wanna get into the semantics of that one

[gray umbra]

I just like watching the woke crusade because its entirely an overreaction

[shadow plover]

https://bsky.app/starter-pack-short/8L5waet

Bluesky

[outer wave]

I just want the woke/anti woke shit to die

[plush mason]

they actually got the first one wrong, it was delay not defend

[spare osprey]

Genuinely

[outer wave]

Thank you

[plush mason]

by they i mean the NYPD lol

[shadow plover]

there are a couple more and some feeds as well but I'm too tired to search for them right now sorry 😄

[tough haven]

I hate that it’s not even a correct use of the term

[spare osprey]

Found it btw, was Kotaku

[gray umbra]

Like on one hand im amused that every commercial forcefed to me by the streaming service i pay for has some form of interracial couple but like who gives a shit

[queen laurel]

oh god

[outer wave]

Its not, but people just keep using it in that way and its annoying

[queen laurel]

i'm not

gonna touch that

[outer wave]

I think the whole anti-woke shit was maybe fun for a year back in 2016/17, but now its obnoxious

[queen laurel]

honestly they spam it so much i forgot what it originally means at this point

[tough haven]

Any of y’all write or know Aeldari dialogue well? I don’t write that much for them, so would you guys be able to offer feedback on what I have?

[crystal forum]

i will beat up any strawman i've created in my head

[queen laurel]

i just think of it as another one of those dumb people terms

[gray umbra]

Im honestly surprised the reaction to female stalkers in stalker 2 wasnt too bad

[crystal forum]

they're physically weaker than me because i made them up

[outer wave]

Its genuine rage bait at this point and gets old people riled up over something

[gray umbra]

Even if its like a handful

[outer wave]

Dilara may be your woman for this

[crystal forum]

just stop using twitter

[outer wave]

Ive decreased my time on twitter

[tough haven]

To be “woke” means to be aware or on guard for societal mistreatment, I believe it’s originally a African American term

[gray umbra]

Cripplingly condescending. Even if they dont mean to be

[spare osprey]

I need to just delete my account tbh

[plush mason]

wow the game has female characters and no incel got triggered? shocking

[tough haven]

I think I’ve bothered dilara enough today lol

[rocky gale]

They don't actually play the games long enough to find out

[crystal forum]

i only use twitter to find furry artists. it's all bots trying to make your brain a worse place for your consciousness. you only lose when using it

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-house-gif-11916099077674228393

[tough haven]

Incels when they see women IRL (they’re just a diversity inclusion)

[outer wave]

Okay fair

[gray umbra]

Granted, all the ones ive seen are traders so..

[outer wave]

The amount of Russian/Chinese/whatever bots spewing anti-whatever propaganda on top of the anti-woke stuff is tiring

Its so tiring

Oh and anti-vaccines too

[tough haven]

Well, here’s what I got rn, for the ranger’s introductory dialogue

[green loom]

This is totally a real person

[queen laurel]

why you think i moved to bluesky

[plush mason]

incels never see women irl outside their own mothers

[gray umbra]

Antivaxxers got boring after covid

[crystal forum]

it's not tiring if you stop looking. it's like being stressed on a plane that's in the air, what do you gain by being anxious when it's out of your control?

[queen laurel]

fuck me

[queen laurel]

this is the most AI generated thing i have seen

[outer wave]

Yeah its very true, but I wish people would be more aware of this sort of thing and try and quell it

Its almost like Youtube comments at this point

[green loom]

I think the most generous estimate I've seen for twitter says around 25% of the site's activity is bots

Which btw

[outer wave]

This is a 16 year old 120 Ibs ass kid

[green loom]

Is still 5+ times the number for other sites

[gray umbra]

Militaires sans frontieres...

[green loom]

No it's some 30 year old called Nikolav in Skaljuznik Oblast Siberia

[crystal forum]

you're better off convincing people in real life. even on discord where you're talking directly to somebody there's a barrier of brainrot that makes people unable or unwilling to learn or show empathy

[tough haven]

“Greetings, I have been watching you for a while now, and I believe we share similar goals”

“The man you are looking for, this “Scrimshaw”, he has stolen something from me, The very item you are seeking. And I would see it returned to its rightful owners, it must be placed into trustworthy hands. If you find this “Scrimshaw”, you must return this item to me”

[gray umbra]

Clearly hes played too much metal gear

[outer wave]

Yeah, Ive been pretty bad about that

[green loom]

That or it's outright just a ChatGPT bot

[queen laurel]

dude

it's cooked

[crystal forum]

same. nobody's perfect in that regard. especially neurodivergent people lol

i do it a lot too

[gray umbra]

I think the sad part is its hard to tell

If its a bot or if the person is genuinely stupid

[outer wave]

Not just that, just being somewhat complicit with people saying pretty iffy to downright awful things

Im not great at confronting people out about that, especially friends and family

[tough haven]

[If players ask for their name] “My name is not important, just think of me as a potential ally.”

[If players ask what it is] “That is of little consequence, what is of consequence, is that you return it to me.”

[crystal forum]

same here. i give up too easily even though i consider myself at least decent at putting a point across

[queen laurel]

we have gotten to that point

[tough haven]

[If players ask what they would do with it]
“If you return it to me, it will be safely kept, and my honor will have been restored. The question is, what will your masters do with it?”

[queen laurel]

It's hard to differentiate between a bot or a person because they can match stupidity so well

[tough haven]

At a certain point I decide it’s not worth my time over, since they won’t change their mind

But I might reach that point too soon

[outer wave]

Yeah, its not great and now I got a pretty alt-right friend who I dont think has interacted with a trans person IRL

Guy listened to Sneako

[crystal forum]

that's what i say to myself too but it's hard to judge between persistence and pestering

[tough haven]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

especially when you're slightly asd

[gray umbra]

Best you can do is make your viewpoint known, dont bother trying to change peoples beliefs especially if they double down on it

[storm jungle]

always remember what K said MIB 2

[tough haven]

[If players ask why they have been watching them, or recognize them as a the sniper]
“I have been following you since I noticed we had the same goal, I had eliminated your enemies so that you could show me where this “Scrimshaw” could be found. Once you were ambushed, it mattered not the outcome, as either you, or your enemies would lead me to my prize.”

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-tommy-lee-jones-smart-dumb-panic-gif-20007208

[gray umbra]

Ive stopped being friends with people who have generally gotten too extreme on both sides of the political spectrum

[crystal forum]

i did convince this older guy at work that trans people are chill and just trying to live their lives at least

but he's a rare case of somebody with an open mind

[tough haven]

[If players refuse or are reluctant]
“You do not understand, it must be returned to my people, even the slightest artifact is worth any price, for it contains my people’s very spirit”
[If players have discovered their identity, add]
“Foolish Mon’keigh! I do not wish for violence, but I will not hesitate to eliminate you, should you stand in my way! As I said, what you seek is worth any price, including your lives.”

[gray umbra]

Most people that arent terminally online just dont know better

[tough haven]

Rare W

[crystal forum]

had to explain how hard it is to have gender dysphoria and stuff

[outer wave]

Hey thats cool at least

[tough haven]

People don’t know what they aren’t exposed to, so it’s easy to demonize a population or perspective you don’t understand

[gray umbra]

I know someone who deals with people talking shit about trans people but havent realized that they are trans

So it creates this fucked up situation

[tough haven]

So people can push their fallacies and ideas of those populations easily

[crystal forum]

yeah his problem is he was fed bullshit by some older gay people, you know the ones who are super anti trans for no reason other than internalized self hatred or something

[outer wave]

I used to be someone that was pretty anti trans, but after talking to a couple trans people at two work places, and having a couple friends online that identify as trans, I changed

[tough haven]

I have to regularly convince my coworkers in the psychiatric unit, that being trans is not a mental health condition

Dysphoria is, but someone’s gender identity isn’t something that can be changed or should

I usually take the trans patients though

[crystal forum]

something that convinced me that it's true is the opposite. gender dysphoria is a recognized thing by doctors worldwide so it's hard to argue against experts

like if you're arguing against psychiatric specialists you're probably in the wrong

[tough haven]

Well it’s crazy because my coworkers are educated on this stuff, you’d think they’d know better

But no, they choose to cling to their pre-existing biases cause it’s easier to do so

They are the professionals, or are supposed to be

[outer wave]

Its so much easier to do so

[tough haven]

Like dawg we have to take trainings on this

It’s literally our job

[crystal forum]

you can sadly fake your way through many things

[tough haven]

But no, I have coworkers saying that the concept of pronouns and gender identity is a mental illness and will go away soon now that [candidate] is in office

[crystal forum]

jeez

[tough haven]

Like bro, that shit comes free with speaking a language

They’re old and burnt out though so I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt

I started to go into it with them but I discovered that’s only going to cause me problems

And they won’t change their mind

I really should have said something to my unit supervisor

[crystal forum]

they could have thought the same things too and not done anything about it

[outer wave]

Guaranteed they wont ever

Trump was in 2016 and that never went away

[tough haven]

What I don’t get is why spend so much of your mental space, time, and effort on hating this group of people and caring what they do when it affects no one but themselves. Like just let people be themselves, so long as they aren’t harming themselves or others and it’s legal

[tough haven]

Yeah it was a fucking stupid argument

[crystal forum]

hatred is easy to sell but hard to get rid of

[tough haven]

Me and my coworker just looked at each other and went “I don’t get paid enough to explain this to you”

[crystal forum]

30 years ago it was gay people

[rocky gale]

Thankfully my work has it in the employee handbook that transphobic behaviour comes under bullying and as such is a fireable offence.

[tough haven]

The issue is it benefits the people that push it, not those that buy it

[tough haven]

Shit, there’s probably something in the nursing code of ethics

[outer wave]

Yeah I sort of realized that no matter what I did, I couldnt stop someone from doing what they think is right for their self identity, so instead Im trying to be supportive of their decision. If they dont wanna transition anymore and want to go back to who they were before, I'll support them still, but I cannot stop people from feeling certain things about themselves.

[tough haven]

I could go up to my supervisor but it was so long ago now it’s probably not actionable

[outer wave]

Its a DOG SHIT argument

[tough haven]

I just couldn’t imagine being in their shoes

And if the roles were reversed

If someone was like “No you HAVE to transition” to me as a cisgender person, it would be hell

[crystal forum]

the worst part is they'll never admit they were wrong even in 20 years if everybody is super accepting of trans people

boomers straight up refuse to accept that they too hated gay people

like saying it wasn't that bad

[tough haven]

So for the opposite to be true, it’s awful

[tough haven]

It becomes a part of their self identity, so if they or someone challenges it, they feel they themselves as a person is being challenged

So they become defensive and double down

As a self defense mechanism

[crystal forum]

the conservative head im my country voted against gay marriage despite his dad being gay and people just brush that off lol i always find the double standards funny

[tough haven]

It’s hard seeing people versed in mental health fall to such an obvious fallacy. But I suppose it’s easy to say that looking in

I try to regularly be introspective, for better or worse

[crystal forum]

because these days being anti gay in canada will get you shunned out of existence in politics so they ignore past stuff

[tough haven]

Yeah the hypocrisy is crazy

[tough haven]

Anyways, what do y’all think of all my eldar dialogue?

Is it too overt?

[outer wave]

I think its okay but I also havent read any 40k books lmao

Polite and to the point

[tough haven]

Even the part where they use a slur and threaten to kill you?

[outer wave]

From what you linked, its just him being forceful and curt in his tone at most

I dont see anything about him threatening to kill anyone

[tough haven]

Keep going down, I posted all the dialogue I have

I just replied to the first one I posted

[outer wave]

Hmmmm

[dusk patrol]

But but I was told Games workshop has shoved him in a corner and didn’t let him
do anything.

[crystal forum]

i thought he was freelance now

his linkedin didn't show currently working for GW

[outer wave]

It looks like it takes a bit for him to actually threaten to kill them and isnt immediately throwing out slurs at the party, so I think thats okay? Im worried however from a TTRPG standpoint where making a meaner NPC that isnt really being helpful and shittalks you would lead to the party wanting to actually start something, assuming you dont want that to happen. From the lore standpoint this feels pretty okay: the ranger is willing to make an alliance of convenience with the party and has (at least told) killed the party's enemies to help out, but is also trying to keep this as impersonal as possible.

[storm jungle]

Yeah he is

he isnt really doing 40k content anymore

"layout artist" is also like... you know, not exactly a frontal duty job lmao

[crystal forum]

GW probably only got him on board so he'd sign over space marine

[tough haven]

Yeah the meaner sections are only if it’s seeming like the party is already leaning towards violence

[storm jungle]

Woulnt surprise me.

no idea why people defend GW with this shit

same guys that literally dont allow a discord bot in an ork game server to say anything unless they approve of its "lines" beforehand

[crystal forum]

if they had balls they would have instead made him art director of the project but we all know GW wouldn't do that

[tough haven]

And he has picked off random goons during fights from a distance but you can’t see who did it

[outer wave]

Yeah I think it should be alright then; Ive just heard and read horror stories that had mean spirited NPCs involved that didnt help the party in any sort of way so that stuck out to me

Right right

[tough haven]

This provides the players with a choice of who they want to piss off

Piss off the mechanicus, or piss off the ranger

One of them won’t be happy

I have a scenario where all parties are marginally appeased which works, but I doubt the party will do it

[storm jungle]

God i could never be a DM

they'd constantly accuse me of "railroading" when they are being annoying little cunts

[tough haven]

If you do return the items to the ranger, they’ll take the soul stones out of it, and let the party have the rest, which they can then hand over to the admech

Admech might be like “without the stones it’s useless”

But I think most would be like “eh tech is tech”

Or you can convince them you found it that way

[tough haven]

It’s a one shot so if they accuse me of railroading I’ll be like “correct”

That’s the point

[storm jungle]

Yeah you got more patience than me then lol

[dusk patrol]

He said he’s split between multiple projects he largely can’t talk about, this was probably one.

GW still has plans for Astartes 2 at some point, but he’s stretched thin rn and I imagine this and his own personal studio project have taken a lot of time.

[tough haven]

You can have a story lead the party to the same main points, while still allowing for the party to have agency

The destinations are the same, but the circumstances and Methodology/journey, could be very different

[rocky gale]

I remember one time I was dm'ing, I put in a puzzle which involved rotating a pyramid so that the symbols on it's faces matched the symbols on the wall then pressing the button, it was literally a Skyrim dungeon puzzle. The only way to fail the puzzle was to press the button without rotating the pyramid.

[tough haven]

Btw real quick, what does eldar medicine look like?

[dusk patrol]

It’s the same as the one SODAZ guy where people just make up reasons why the artist is unhappy without any evidence.

And with SODAZ he specifically said he stopped because the community backlash that he might make stuff for GW

[rocky gale]

Guess what happened?

[storm jungle]

Astarted 2 would have still came out years prior if GW just didn't headhunt the guy either, he was always making way more bucks than what they are largely paying him now knowing how they already treat their animators to certain extents and why WH+ was such a flop to begin with.

I dont really trust these pieces of shit after what they also did to projects like the Exodite

[tough haven]

Like if the party stole medical tech off the ranger, what would that be

[storm jungle]

where the entire thing was largely butchered lol

[tough haven]

Medikit equivalent

[dusk patrol]

You have proof of this is I’m sure?

[storm jungle]

Yeah all his patreon teasers

which uh you know

kinda dont exist anymore 🙂

wonder why huh

[dusk patrol]

So no you don’t have proof that he’s being paid less

[tough haven]

They didn’t do it

Or just broke the thing?

[dusk patrol]

Or making less. He started his own production company.

[outer wave]

He should continue making Astartes animations for fun

Not for money

For fun

[dusk patrol]

He can’t make money off them and he doesn’t need to

[storm jungle]

Yeah im sure GW is paying him around 90k+ from all the money he was making on his patreon before it dropped to where it is now buddy lol

[rocky gale]

They didn't even look at the pyramid, ignored the symbols on the wall, pushed the button and instantly triggered the trap

[storm jungle]

seriously stop being such a corpo bootlicker

[dusk patrol]

So once again you don’t know

[storm jungle]

I mean I do

i literally saw his profile

i was a supporter

lol

[dusk patrol]

No, you don’t know what he’s making now

[tough haven]

Players will do anything to invalidate your work

[spare osprey]

I would’ve liked the original iron warrior animation before GW made them chaos

[storm jungle]

Same

[storm jungle]

Yes, why are you changing points between patreon/his current projects

[tough haven]

“How can I get through this intricately made puzzle fastest”

[dusk patrol]

Like there’s nothing stopping him from making Astartes 2 now btw if he was actually upset

[storm jungle]

I mean okay

3 years later

still nothing

only vague teasers

because GW milks out their content lol

[dusk patrol]

He literally said he’s been stretched thin between multiple projects

[tough haven]

I made a door that only opens if you hum the tune the servitor is constantly “singing”

[storm jungle]

Yeah Im aware

[spare osprey]

He’s doing another sci fi setting

[tough haven]

But it just looks like the servitor is broken

[dusk patrol]

Yes I know

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah

[tough haven]

So they’ll probably just fucking shoot it

[outer wave]

Oooh which one?

[storm jungle]

Uhhh his own thing

[outer wave]

Damn

[dusk patrol]

And he worked on this, and probably other stuff, he’s said he has multiple projects and he’s had a hard time with how much it is to do

[storm jungle]

its on his patreon after he stopped doing 40k fan content non-officially

[spare osprey]

Own thing yeah, looks neat tho

[storm jungle]

and after they purged his videos

[storm jungle]

Yeah because he got hired and most of his 40k content just stopped being made lol

[crystal forum]

yeah that makes sense. good talent doesn't always translate well to management skills and a single person can only do so much

[storm jungle]

Yeah its why Astartes 1 took so long

[tough haven]

GW could be so much more successful if they treated their people right

[spare osprey]

Still dumb on their part, remove the highly popular video and slap it on a website only 40k players know about

[storm jungle]

even though he did a teaser after the final episode teasing multiple other chapters

[storm jungle]

Its a case of just not having competition out in the open and hiring them to do content for you.

[dusk patrol]

Like, if any of you have evidence of him being upset or being screwed over beyond making stuff up I’d love to see it, but he seems fine, he’s just busy between a lot of stuff

[storm jungle]

The problem is GW fumbled the whole thing

Im still never gonna forget the Lost Legion stuff

[outer wave]

Welcome to corpos unfortunately, where it becomes harder and harder to see people as individuals and easier to see them as numbers

[storm jungle]

they literally turned their entire project into shit

same with the Iron Warrior stuff just... being what it is now lol

[spare osprey]

Mhm

[dusk patrol]

Where is this evidence they don’t?

[tough haven]

But it like directly harms them, and costs them money, I thought they like money

[storm jungle]

I mean they do

but nobody said corporations are smart

lol

[humble shoal]

They like investor money more

[storm jungle]

^

[outer wave]

Short term money

[storm jungle]

Miniatures are where its at mostly

[opaque coyote]

It makes them money in the shorter term

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpun-johnny-silverhand-live-reaction-keanu-reeves-gif-15704640811064903669

[storm jungle]

animations are side investments

[opaque coyote]

Unfortunately, people aren't that far sighted

Most are going at it for themselves

[crystal forum]

was GW ever private

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[tough haven]

You know what, I’ll be honest, I have no evidence besides their weird tendency to nuke anything that isn’t perfectly within their guidelines

[opaque coyote]

At the beginning

[crystal forum]

what a shame

[dusk patrol]

When have they don’t this

[opaque coyote]

Tbf that's just usual company bullshit

Nintendo

Etc

[dusk patrol]

SODAZ took down his own stuff

[crystal forum]

GW could survive right now as some rich guy's side project lol

[dusk patrol]

The TTS guy didn’t actually get told to do anything

[opaque coyote]

Unfortunately, for both the USA and Japan.

Copyright law is essentially

"Use it or lose it"

[forest orbit]

Didnt they do this with Astartes lol

[dusk patrol]

He largely just wanted an excuse to move on

[storm jungle]

Yeah

He deleted all his videos

which was pretty funny

[dusk patrol]

No they bought him out

[storm jungle]

Yeah and he deleted his videos

[dusk patrol]

And put his stuff on their channel

[crystal forum]

there has to be some multi millionaire british dude out there who loves 40k

[dusk patrol]

You’re acting like they took down his stuff they didn’t, they bought it

[storm jungle]

....

[storm jungle]

They bought it and deleted it you fucking numbskull

jesus christ lmao

[dusk patrol]

Yes which isn’t what was said

[forest orbit]

Didnt he also make an entire announcement

[storm jungle]

Yeah he did

[dusk patrol]

They didn’t “take down anything within guidelines”

[forest orbit]

Also why is eternal being such a corpo dickrider rn

[spare osprey]

Elon musk bum he is boutta buy warhammer. Warhammer 40x

[storm jungle]

You mean uh

[dusk patrol]

Because you guys are lying and making shit up

[storm jungle]

the same guideline that literally said any non-GW made thing is not allowed

and then they changed this guideline

[opaque coyote]

Judging by how Alfa and his team talks about TTS.

I actually don't think that's the case tbh. He genuinely seems regretful and even almost excited when he talks about it.

It's mainly for his family.

I do admit it is a good way to branch out.

But I also definitely think he wanted to at least finish it before moving on.

No author WANTS to leave a story unfinished.

[storm jungle]

because it sounded very foreboding lol

[opaque coyote]

Especially one they put so much time in

[dusk patrol]

No it said you can’t make a profit off their stuff and nothing was ever taken down

[storm jungle]

Yeah because it got edited

[dusk patrol]

He was barely doing it

[storm jungle]

since the wording of it was very stupid

and confrontational

[dusk patrol]

He released like one video every year at most

And it was turning to shit

[forest orbit]

He didnt tbh

his content output was pretty regular

[dusk patrol]

Contrast with how fast he released his new stuff

[forest orbit]

mostly between actual episodes + voxcasts

[opaque coyote]

Those videos were higher quality animation wise.

Also he did put out shorts and Vox logs in the meantime

[storm jungle]

Yeah this

Alfa largely stopped because he didnt want t odeal with GW's dumb copyright laws

since all his income comes from patreon

[opaque coyote]

He had a family

[storm jungle]

and he has a family to feed among other shit

yeah exactly

I dont blame him either

corporate assholes are corporate assholes, so better safe than sorry

[opaque coyote]

GW didn't shoot him, but they did flash the gun

Y'know?

[storm jungle]

Yep.

Again the original copyright statement was a lot more harsh than the one on their site now.

[dusk patrol]

And yet none of it ever actually got taken down and he made his own thing, and regardless he’s using an IP which isn’t his to make content and money, it’s not complex

[storm jungle]

Yeah because he stopped.

[dusk patrol]

It’s still up

[storm jungle]

Yeah and essentially buried

[opaque coyote]

I think he'll eventually come back to TTS but obviously not now.

Besides it is pleasant to see his new content. It is good

[storm jungle]

And you know

not at the forefront of attention

[opaque coyote]

I like the Half Life Videos

[dusk patrol]

I mean good fucking riddance frankly

It had been shit for awhile

[storm jungle]

Silence Iron Hands fan

your opinion on this case is not relevant

[opaque coyote]

I think you might just hate fun

[storm jungle]

✋

[storm jungle]

Im biased but the World of Darkness stuff is just a lot more fun

[dusk patrol]

TTS was almost as much of a blight on the community as 1d4chan

[storm jungle]

its also nice to see them have like

[dusk patrol]

And I’m glad it’s forgotten largely

[storm jungle]

an ACTUAL animation studio

which was very surprising

[forest orbit]

yeah the people working on it are really cool too

i love Hunter

[opaque coyote]

Says Eternal as he kicks puppies

[forest orbit]

almsot got me into WoD if it wasnt for my love of 40gay

[storm jungle]

a tragic case

😔

[forest orbit]

LOL

[dusk patrol]

It sucked, it’s jokes sucked, and it’s good they moved on

[opaque coyote]

I got into 40k because of TTS

[storm jungle]

It is

[opaque coyote]

I can't hate it

[storm jungle]

its just with them basically having bought the guy he never probaly got to work on it

they teased it almost 4 fucking years ago now btw

corporate cocksuckers

[dusk patrol]

Based off what?

[gray umbra]

World of Darkness is sick

[storm jungle]

The original WH+ release poster

you remember that?

or do i have to go and get it for you

lol

[dusk patrol]

No based off what has he not gotten to work on it

[gray umbra]

Not sure about the new ones but old world was cool

[dusk patrol]

We have no idea why it’s so delayed beyond Syama saying he’s been very busy

[opaque coyote]

The Horus Heresy trailer kinda reminded me of his animation style but I have no idea who actually worked on it

[storm jungle]

If he worked at the pace he did with Astartes 1 we'd have already been basically seeing WIPs or other showcases of the stuff he's working on, why is this so hard to comprehend lol

[dusk patrol]

Because we don’t know why it was delayed

[storm jungle]

but instead its just radio silence because yeah he cant post stuff since hes with GW now

[dusk patrol]

You’re once again, making shit up

[storm jungle]

No?

GW milks animations because WH+ has nothing on it largley

[dusk patrol]

None of that has to do with you knowing why it was delayed

[storm jungle]

Its delayed because again they milk out content. Its not really that hard to figure out.

[crystal forum]

as somebody who had to sign (1) copyright contract, they 100% put a clause in which stipulated that he had to take down any videos which will go on their streaming platform

[dusk patrol]

Yes that’s obvious

[forest orbit]

Didnt they literally celebrate "1 million" users as if it was some grand achievement

[opaque coyote]

WH+?

More like

Warhammer Minus

[storm jungle]

Yeah it was pretty cringe

[dusk patrol]

That’s not the point, they didn’t issue take downs, they fucking bought his stuff

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah I remember that

[storm jungle]

It can basically be any case but we very much would have seen Astartes 2 by now if he wasnt bought by GW.

His work takes awhile because its immaculate but 4 years of essentially nothing is meh

[dusk patrol]

And instead he’s opened his own studio and is doing other stuff and just worked on a huge short for Amazon with Blur

You know, stuff he wasn’t doing before

[storm jungle]

Cool. Its still not 40k related content.

And not related to this at all.

[crystal forum]

believe it or not but some companies aren't shitty and don't require that. the contract i signed for example still left me the owner of the model i made, just not the owner of the copyrighted thing i replicated

[dusk patrol]

Yes it is, 1000% that short doesn’t exist without Astartes

[storm jungle]

No its not, and as much as you tell me this shit you dont know this crap as much as you think either.

[dusk patrol]

Ok, and he agreed to let GW buy his stuff and make more money

[storm jungle]

So seriously stop being such a corporate apologist

its genuinely grating lol

[dusk patrol]

I don’t really care if he was ok with it

[forest orbit]

I mean when isnt he grating

[storm jungle]

well sometimes

[dusk patrol]

No I’m just not making shit up

[storm jungle]

I mean you essentially are

[forest orbit]

^

[dusk patrol]

If all yuo can say is “bootlicker!”

[forest orbit]

"oh he totally meant this guy, his work shows this"

you dont know shit either dude

seriously learn to not die on every hill you argue on

[dusk patrol]

I know what he’s said

Which is more than you guys have

[forest orbit]

Uhuh

[dusk patrol]

Literally jsut making up the worst narrative

[shadow plover]

such a pointless argument when none of you have any concrete information

[storm jungle]

Pretty much.

I dont know why he acts like he has any either

[dusk patrol]

When he’s never expressed being upset about anything and has only grown

[shadow plover]

this includes you too Dilara

[rocky gale]

Lets talk about Mk7 helmets being dumb again that was fun

[storm jungle]

Yeah I know

[dusk patrol]

We do, he’s said he has a lot of projects

[storm jungle]

but its fun to argue with him

[queen laurel]

Another one of these again welp i suppose i can spare some popcorn

[storm jungle]

Im just watching Prison Break on the side so i wanted to indulge a bit

[dusk patrol]

He’s never expressed being upset with his deal

[forest orbit]

I mea

he cant

[storm jungle]

Yeah he cant lol

[rocky gale]

He cat

[storm jungle]

NDAs are kind of a thing

You cant like uhhh

[dusk patrol]

Why not? He’s freelance now apparently and not doing anything

[storm jungle]

publicly say "this deal sucks"

[dusk patrol]

According to you guys

[forest orbit]

Because it looks bad on your resume

lol

"Oh I hated working for this big miniature company"

[storm jungle]

Theres kind of more to these things beyond that tbh

[crystal forum]

is that what freelance means these days

[dusk patrol]

It is super convenient that you guys apparently know his thoughts but he can’t express them even though he just worked on a GW linked project as we see

[shadow plover]

him being quiet doesn't automatically mean anything really, he was pretty quiet back before the acquisition too

[dusk patrol]

Like maybe he is upset

[queen laurel]

Yeah being a freelancer means that you still need to be professional

there are thoughts you need to keep to yourself

[dusk patrol]

But you have literally no proof

[forest orbit]

Its about as convenient you are just assuming all the stuff hes doing because he vaguely mentions the projects he works on, you gotta be best friends with him or definitely psychic for that to be the case

you have about as much proof lol

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-chaos-gif-26597016

[dusk patrol]

I don’t have to prove he’s upset, I’m saying you guys don’t know jack shit and are extrapolating from nothing when all we have is be agreed, GW bought his stuff, he said he busy and he worked on this short

Astartes 2 is still coming apparently

[forest orbit]

Yeah

for the last 4 years

lol

still nothing

[raven stone]

...what did I miss

[storm jungle]

Eternal wanting to die on another hill, i kinda lost the point at this rate.

[dusk patrol]

Yes and so we need to assume the worst possible idea

[queen laurel]

It's a usual thing that happens here eternal reward standing his ground harder than a marine

[dusk patrol]

No I’m just not lying

Not making shit up

[storm jungle]

Yeah sure

anyway seriously get over it

[forest orbit]

And why do you act like you know just as much from all the shit you spew dickhead

[dusk patrol]

Yes I get it you don’t have any proof or evidence so now we need to move on

Got it

[storm jungle]

I mean you have about as much

[plush mason]

its corporate, that is always the smart and safe bet

[dusk patrol]

I’m literally the only one bringing up any facts

[forest orbit]

"Facts" which are also essentially nothing

lol

[dusk patrol]

And you guys didn’t even know about his recent posts

[queen laurel]

Here you are again with that you think you're the only one who is right again

[forest orbit]

"I read his bio on his account"

[raven stone]

Eternal my friend.

I died on the wrong hill and got banned elsewhere.

Don't dig yourself in too deep man, not worth it when we are here united by our love to slay Nurgle Cultists in the name of the Emperor.

[plush mason]

every single person that works in a corporation will tell you that if they are free to speak openly

[dusk patrol]

I’m the only one who actually has looked into it at all

[crystal forum]

some people have experience in things which you don't. crazy stuff eternal

[dusk patrol]

Hey once you guys have your proof of any claims hmu

Until then, you’re full of shit

[storm jungle]

Im legit

wheezing so hard rn

this is so good

[plush mason]

🍿

[storm jungle]

Anyway glad thats over

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's like watching a squirming worm

[rocky gale]

Me when.... when the..... your mom when.....

[shadow plover]

ganging up on Eternal is very fucking dull as well without real reason to do so

[forest orbit]

I mean

hes pretty annoying

[dusk patrol]

Idk why you’re acting like you guys are above this

[forest orbit]

if it isnt this its some nonsense lore bit

We arent tho

[shadow plover]

and what you are doing isn't?

[dusk patrol]

You’re jsut saying “haha so funny”

[storm jungle]

I mean to be fair it is

[dusk patrol]

Not talking to you

[shadow plover]

Wasn't to you either

to Eli

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[crystal forum]

we need more festive in this chat

[forest orbit]

Guilty 😔

[storm jungle]

Yeah someone say something more stupid regarding lore or something

[crystal forum]

guy's it's december we're supposed to pretend to be nice

[storm jungle]

this is literally going in circles lol

[dusk patrol]

Sorry didn’t see that

[plush mason]

nah

[queen laurel]

Fuck you

[shadow plover]

And Dilara pouring fuel to the flames is very unnecessary as well

[storm jungle]

Im really bored. I know I shouldn't but I just dont really like the dude.

Its hard.

[dusk patrol]

Anyways if there’s actually proof one day that he was upset or got screwed over or is even unhappy then I’ll be mad, but until then I’m not interested in making stuff up based off the internet opinion.

[crystal forum]

[raven stone]

I THINK THE WOKIES ARE RIGHT AND WE SHOULD RETCON THE PRIMARACHS INTO TRANS FEMME SISTERS.

(Sorry, you did ask...)

[forest orbit]

Oh my god

shut the hell up

and move on

[dusk patrol]

Secret Level was dope

Hopefully the deal makes good content

[storm jungle]

It was pretty mid.

But its good for the average soyjack audience

[storm jungle]

so im glad people like it

[dusk patrol]

[arctic talon]

Ogryn wants to eat burned heretics

[forest orbit]

I mean it isnt wrong

Its very cool dont get me wrong either

[storm jungle]

Yeah nah its cool

[crystal forum]

isn't that like a number one way to be full of chaos

[storm jungle]

Its mor ethat like

its literally just space marines killing stuff

the ending bit with the tzeentch stuff was kino tho

actually had me interested

[forest orbit]

Yeah that bit was dope

also them NOT fighting a lord of change thank fuck

[storm jungle]

Yeah uh if it was gonna be another lord of change fight i was gonna scream

[dusk patrol]

Yeah yeah I get it, Space Marine fans bad yada yada, not interested in the same spheel

[storm jungle]

im glad they went a bit more original with it

also Titus surviving was some bullshit because the other marines were much cooler

[raven stone]

Marine fanboys when Marines kill anything:

Neuron Activation.

[crystal forum]

i love when in lore some guy picks up a rock that was a chaos pendant and it cursed his next 6 generations then in darktide we just pick up anything that was found in battle

[storm jungle]

but im biased

[forest orbit]

Can confirm.

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[forest orbit]

Again though yeah its good cookie cutter slop nothing wrong with that, I liked it

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much

[queen laurel]

To be fair watching a giant superhuman pulverize a human is funny

[storm jungle]

Its also really well animated

[dusk patrol]

Its what I expected, same for the rest. Stories weren’t always good but they were very well executed

[shadow plover]

Pretty much

[dusk patrol]

The 40k one was probably the best in that it kept it simple, it definitely was Astartes inspired

[forest orbit]

It could have been better tbh but like

[shadow plover]

some were barely interesting and some were better than average

[dusk patrol]

It’s basically the same plotline

[plush mason]

a mid story well executed is often better than a good story poorly executed

[forest orbit]

its just an Amazon animation so its fine

[storm jungle]

Yeah it does the job

and gets people interested in buying space marine boxes, so it works for what it is

[dusk patrol]

It’s a 20 minute short experimenting half so it’s whatever, it looked cool and I’m happy

[storm jungle]

i think my favorite part was still uh

[shadow plover]

It was nice seeing the Unreal Tournament stuff

[storm jungle]

them dragging that fucking box the entire way

[forest orbit]

then the psyker just fucking dies?

[shadow plover]

that was great

[dusk patrol]

Hopefully they get longer and more in depth if they keep doing them

[storm jungle]

Yeah LMAO

I legit laughed out loud

[forest orbit]

PEAK CINEMA

[shadow plover]

they had a plan, plan didn't work

[storm jungle]

relatable

[forest orbit]

same

[shadow plover]

kill the plan ruiner

[dusk patrol]

The astropath coming out of the box was actually hilarious

[storm jungle]

No padding in it either

[plush mason]

psyker-in-a-box

[forest orbit]

he got the leisure suit treatment

[dusk patrol]

They had three tanks and a DPS and they couldn’t protect the support smh

[crystal forum]

i dare you to find something comfortable in 40k

[queen laurel]

Hey if vermintide taught me anything it's a very good tactic

[forest orbit]

I still think Titus being there was really dumb because it removed any sense of danger

[queen laurel]

Just shove your magician in a box

[storm jungle]

Yeah i agree but like

[queen laurel]

And carry them around

[storm jungle]

its for marketing

so its w/e

i can live with it

[forest orbit]

Yeah true true

[plush mason]

so in other words, the space marines play wow

[dusk patrol]

Real

[crystal forum]

i love how nobody cared about him in the lore community

[queen laurel]

What is warhammer lore and presentation but a giant marketing scheme

[crystal forum]

in fact im pretty sure still nobody does

[dusk patrol]

Titus is the DPS main who runs off and does his own thing but it works so you can’t get mad

[forest orbit]

I MEAN... titus is abotu as generic as you can get. Hes a cool character but at its core hes just Generic White Marine Man.

[plush mason]

leave it to the greenskin to speak the facts

[forest orbit]

Mark Strong is what carried him for me as a character

[queen laurel]

I'm going to be honest he is not interesting lore wise

[forest orbit]

its why in SM2 hes essentially an NPC

[storm jungle]

thats a bit harsh but i agree

[queen laurel]

He is quite literally pretty basic

[storm jungle]

mostly because I REALLY

REALLY

Wish they got Strong back

his new VA was so generic

[crystal forum]

he just has no lore i'm sure an actual writer could make him interesting

[dusk patrol]

He looks cool, I think they could definitely add more personality

[storm jungle]

I mean he odes

[storm jungle]

^

[crystal forum]

give dan a try or some shit

[dusk patrol]

It makes sense why he’s why he is now

[storm jungle]

its again cookie cutter shit, it annoy sme because ive read much better marine characters

but if it works it works

[dusk patrol]

But they need to build on that s bit

[storm jungle]

so again w/e

[forest orbit]

Yeah that

its fine for what it is

[plush mason]

he was captain of the second company somehow

[dusk patrol]

You can do the “fucked up dead inside marine” thing for a bit but they should definitely build on it here

[crystal forum]

he could have some past regrets to overcome

[dusk patrol]

I think this short tells us how he was tbh

[crystal forum]

haunted by demons

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's hard to beat old voices

To this day i still wish that Brian Drummond still voices gorgutz

[storm jungle]

His past and stuff is explained

[crystal forum]

demons which arent fucking thousand sons

[storm jungle]

you kinda just need to dig the fucking uh-

first game's promotional material

[plush mason]

thats why he was a blackshield actually, there is a short book explaining what happens to him after sm1

[dusk patrol]

He used to be much less dead inside too

[storm jungle]

Also more cheerful

😔

[crystal forum]

im talking death watch

[queen laurel]

To be fair can you blame him?

[dusk patrol]

He’s kinda been through some stuff

[storm jungle]

THATS NOT HIS PAST

[queen laurel]

He literally went through some of the most traumatic things a marine can go through

[dusk patrol]

Blackshields aren’t know for their cheerful exteriors

[shadow plover]

deathwatch saga is like a summer break trip for him, doesn't seem interesting

[storm jungle]

Also to be fair what can you even get Deathwatch anyway

Kill aliens

[queen laurel]

Imagine being imprisoned just for being a marine

[storm jungle]

Kidnap impregnated genestealer woman

idfk

[dusk patrol]

But yeah I’d like some Deathwatch prequel stuff, even as a book or whatever

[queen laurel]

And not even let out because the inquisitor doesn't like you

[crystal forum]

hasnt he spent more time in the unknown death watch era than any other period at this point

[storm jungle]

Well yes but still

[plush mason]

the tldr is the inquisitor he got turned over to turned out to be a daemon possed space marine hater and he kept titus and a few 100 other marines in stasis, the grey knights free them and titus opts to become a blackshield out of shame

[dusk patrol]

Yeah we know

[shadow plover]

there is lore about him before he became the captain of the second company

[storm jungle]

That Inquisitor lore was so fucking funny

[arctic talon]

He wasn’t daemon possesed

He was just a dick

[storm jungle]

they just made him some james bond villain to make sure titus got out scotfree

[arctic talon]

Iirc lol

[crystal forum]

i just wanna know more about those guys who die at the start of SM2. if they return to haunt him imagine

[storm jungle]

Yeah he was

[rocky gale]

I was today years old when I learned that Mark Strongs birth name was Marco Giuseppe Salussolia

[dusk patrol]

He got possessed during a mission

[arctic talon]

He just ended up getting possesed

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

But he wasn’t possessed prior

He was just asshole

[arctic talon]

Him being a prick was just inquisition stuff

[storm jungle]

Jay we need to be honest, literally nobody playing the game rn remembers those dudes

[queen laurel]

It's still not explained how he is unusually warp resistant yes

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

dont ask questions

[plush mason]

so he was basically just like that one chick

[crystal forum]

i remember the space wolf

[dusk patrol]

Extreme willpower

[crystal forum]

he was cool

[queen laurel]

All right then i'm just going to

[storm jungle]

Of course you do

[queen laurel]

F*** off i guess

[arctic talon]

Ulfar(not from rogue trader)

[storm jungle]

you fucking fur-

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cola-cat-cola-explosion-luma-ai-gif-12441479630905084027

AAA-

[shadow plover]

he literally dies to a single Warrior, snooze

[dusk patrol]

What we see in this short, he’s just different

Abnormally so

[arctic talon]

So lore accurate

[plush mason]

extreme faith and willpower, thats literally it