40k-lore-chat

[dusk patrol]

And what led up to it

[arctic talon]

what about it?

[queen laurel]

To be fair I expected you to do the walk as you walk over to a baby and slap it in the face so

not surprising

[storm jungle]

Also if you want 40k homebrew inspiration ALWAYS read chinese history

New Ruler appears
Civil War Erupts
50 Billion people starve/die
New Ruler appears
♻️

[arctic talon]

lol

[storm jungle]

YOU KNOW I LOVE THAT SHIT

[dapper gyro]

A lot of things happened there in history, but people love to categorized it differently to make it looks less evil.

[storm jungle]

Not far from the truth yeah lol

[gray umbra]

every transition in dynasty ever

[arctic talon]

Yeah its funny how everywhere

people love trying to "Clean up" history

its kind of gross imo

[queen laurel]

I love it when people are like this is a stupid reason for a war even though we do **** **** like this decade by decade

[storm jungle]

Japan Moment

[arctic talon]

The emperor has lost the mandate of heaven

millions must die

[storm jungle]

mood ngl

[queen laurel]

it took two bombs to knock them out of their edgy face

[storm jungle]

id do the same

[gray umbra]

me learning japanese history:
civilwar
civilwar
civilwar

hey look

civil war

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

also eunuchs being eunuchs

like people think its a meme, no its not

95% of it is civil wars

💀

[dusk patrol]

Be GRRM
Reads about War of the Roses
Remakes with some light fantasy elements
Profit

[storm jungle]

Yeah but GoTs world is still greatly written

minus the sexual assault every 10 pages

AGUHGH-

[dusk patrol]

You take your Red Weddings with your Fat Pink Masts and you’ll like it

[storm jungle]

SHUT THE FUCK ABOUT SAM'S COCK

I SWEAR-

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cola-cat-cola-explosion-luma-ai-gif-12441479630905084027

[dusk patrol]

Don’t forget, George has said he’s basically his self insert character

[gray umbra]

behold his ancestral house sword

[queen laurel]

so there was merit in the sex of Thrones memes

[gray umbra]

heartsbane

[dusk patrol]

Idk though you need to be a good writer but if you’re trying to tell a realistic story like that, there’s gonna be a lot of sexual stuff

Although GRRM definitely makes stuff…heightened and more interesting

[storm jungle]

Well yeah its more that i dont need it in every single page

im trying to get a friend to read it and she gets met wih a rape scene constantly

[dusk patrol]

Like believe it or not, people like the Mountain IRL would just die and likely wouldn’t be currying favors

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[gray umbra]

i love reading about diarrhea

[storm jungle]

TO BE FAIR

He is basically suffering from a brain injury

and is constantly on painkillers

i doubt he already had long

[dusk patrol]

No I mean how he acts

[storm jungle]

Oh lmao

yeah no he'd fucking die

[dusk patrol]

With constantly raping and killing peoples and being fucked up

You’ll be shocked to learn, throughout history people don’t tend to care for that endlessly. Wartime maybe but just randomly as your traveling?

[storm jungle]

The evil characters only get away with the shit they do mostly because their asses either get covered or its done to people who "dont matter".

With the Mountain his exploits work a bit since its during a continental war to some extent, but the atrocities are deffo a bit too played up lol

anything outside of that tho ye

[dusk patrol]

Everything is definitely heightened in Asoiaf

[storm jungle]

Yeah its for the sake of drama essentially

[dusk patrol]

To be more interesting

[storm jungle]

and ngl it works for the most part

[dusk patrol]

If everyone is being rational and making good choices then it’s boring

[storm jungle]

Im glad our leaders are much more rational IRL

oh shi-

[dusk patrol]

There’s a reason House of the Dragon didn’t start a hundred years prior when Jack shit was happening for almost a century

[queen laurel]

It has not happened yet but I'm pretty sure someone will willingly wage war over a piece of string cheese

[dapper gyro]

I mean, it is rational for them and them only.

[storm jungle]

I mean

we waged war over less

[dapper gyro]

You don't need to be rational to other people

[dusk patrol]

You gonna die for a piece of string cheese?

[storm jungle]

Someone is.

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/you-gonna-die-for-some-chicken-someone-is-someone-is-going-to-die-gif-16804749

[storm jungle]

also not a string

A FUCKING

BLOCK OF IT

[dusk patrol]

Tbf Sandor is a big boy

He needs a lot of chickens

[storm jungle]

Him eating chicken is one of my fav scenes

i sometimes put it up when im monching rarely on some wings i ordered 💀

[dusk patrol]

Somehow not disgusting

Impressive really

[storm jungle]

Ikr

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/sosig-gif-9357588

[storm jungle]

STOP IT

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/chug-the-hound-gif-99169347633700630

I like how half the gifs of Sandor are that one scene

https://tenor.com/view/fun-yes-game-of-thrones-two-chicken-gif-14520208

[queen laurel]

bro i was just testing some things in marvel rivals

[rose thorn]

trying to come up with a name for my flesh eater court and like 'marrowkin works' so i googled it first and

what the fuck is a chronicles of shafador

[queen laurel]

well it's certainly something

[broken sundial]

What exactly are the sororitas started and can any female qualify?

Also, are they above any standard rank militia?

[dusk patrol]

Generally from the Schola Progenium

[storm jungle]

They were started from a fledgeling all-female cult that the pope-dictator Vandire made his personal harem bodyguards (no this is not a joke) before they overthrew him with help from the custodes revealing his true nature to them and yes any woman can join the Sororitas, but you need to largely be from a schola or orphaned from some warzone they might wanna pick you up from

And Sororitas largely outrank most "basic" imperial instutions unless they can afford to bash heads with them

[dusk patrol]

But it depends, they draw from a lot of sources and a lot don’t have active combat roles too

They largely work as a safeguard to keep the church in line in the areas they’re in

As well as their role of prosecuting campaigns and whatever they choose depending

Defending holy worlds, and so on

[broken sundial]

Interesting. im new to Warhammer so I dont know a ton

[dusk patrol]

Some have more focus on medical assistance and what not

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adepta_Sororitas

the Lexicanum is your ultimate friend

[dusk patrol]

Some are uh

[storm jungle]

this page basically should have everything you wanna know

[dusk patrol]

More enthusiastic than others

[storm jungle]

anything specific you can just ask here

[broken sundial]

enthusiastic like "I cant wait for a crusade" or enthusiastic like "Why did we stop being a harem"

[storm jungle]

the first one lol

GW also retconned the harem role with their 8th edition codex because yeah uh lol

its not mentioned anywhere because yeah kinda dated

[broken sundial]

i hate and respect woke culture.

[storm jungle]

Lmao bruh

[dusk patrol]

It was always more a like

[storm jungle]

its not "woke" its called not being cringe

[dusk patrol]

Symbolic idea anyways

But yeah some literally deglove their hands intentionally

[storm jungle]

Also lmao i didnt see this section before 💀

[broken sundial]

If it were originally made that way yes, changing lore because it is considered more cringe than it once was, is woke. Mind you we have REAL PEOPLE doing that sort of thing

[dusk patrol]

And worse, some dye their hair white

[storm jungle]

Yeah but its not "woke" its just changing a very obviously insensitive bit of lore because its not really crucial.

[broken sundial]

okay that i agree with

[storm jungle]

People dont really need to know their all-female faction at first was just side-hoes for some asshole priest

but yeah basically the original was "they took care of his every need either physical or spiritual" and now its just "they were his bodyguards"

[outer wave]

You will find that 40k has ALOT of lore retconned over the years

Necrons for example used to be alot more, eh, flatter in terms of characterization

[broken sundial]

Probably because they wanted the aesthetic to be how it is, but didnt think how some verbal links would sound.

[green loom]

Myeah some language won't evolve well into today

So change is expected for marketing if nothing else

[broken sundial]

Right. Remember, even in english only about 40 or 50 years ago if you wanted to have a real heart to heart conversation it was called getting "Solid Dick"

[opaque coyote]

Also the C'Tan used to control them

[broken sundial]

Language doesnt age well

[opaque coyote]

Instead of them overthrowing the C'Tan

Although to explain away some older storie

[green loom]

Or like how cigarettes in england are referred to using a slur

[storm jungle]

Its less aesthetic and more adapting it to a evolving audience. 40k is where it is as an IP because it always adapted to the times for bigger market value and attraction. Necrons are basically the exact same as they were back then only now their got actual leaders and flavor.

[opaque coyote]

There are some tombworlds where fragments of the C'Tan managed to take kver

Which is how some older lore is explained away

Newcrons are huge improvement

Tho

[storm jungle]

yeah its mostly to keep Oldcron fans happy

evne if oldcron fans are fucking stupid

"I prefer my faction having no flavor and personality"

[opaque coyote]

I do like having some oldcrons around if only ironically

For flavor

[storm jungle]

they work for the background mostly

[opaque coyote]

Like imagine a Necron dynasty trying to take back a tombworld taken over by a C'Tan shard

That type of shit

[rose thorn]

its very very funny

[storm jungle]

Yeah i respect it

[rose thorn]

how far the genestealer cult as spread is so up in the air tho imma be real

[opaque coyote]

Imagine somebody hating you so much that they intentionally become infected by a Genestealer just to fuck you over

[rose thorn]

like apparently a titan legion?

[storm jungle]

A titan legion is impossible unless an actual novel does it/explains the process

otherwise the biggest problem is actually melding with the machine spirit of the titan lol

[queen laurel]

Yeah like the very tight organizations would have constant biology checks

To make sure you are completely pure of anything and are basically on functioning level

[rose thorn]

yeah im like 99% sure it was retconned ot like barely a hting

i know it was just very very very very old lore

[storm jungle]

Yeah basically unless a book does it nada

because with that at least if its recent lore you can go "Well it happended here so its indeed not impossible"

you'd need to jump some REAL hoops tho

[rose thorn]

ignoring the fact gsc use to be able to bring titans

which was a bug

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[rose thorn]

but a very funny bug

[opaque coyote]

Titan gets chained up

[rose thorn]

in 4th btw

i mean

10ths

[opaque coyote]

Gets force fed infected Genestealer cultists

[rose thorn]

my bad iw as cross the aos 40k wires

[opaque coyote]

"No more princeps... Please"

"here's another cultist for them to be melded into you"

"FUCK-"

Tbf I can imagine a Titan being taken over if like

The Hivemind directly hijacks the Princeps or the Machine Spirit

But that would be lame

[dusk patrol]

Waking up extra early to be a hater

[queen laurel]

They have no use for it

Actively uses it in game as money

[dusk patrol]

Iirc the income thing is partially a game mechanic and partially just representing materials and what not they use to make it

[queen laurel]

Yeah that is true but like it is a funny imagery that apparently they have no use for it even though it's quite literally just gold coins

[young pecan]

Owning the libs (man-things) by taking every valuable resource for no reason

[normal stream]

Is there any other background to Storm Serpent's pilot? (borovitch)

also, lmao, apparently at Havoc 40 we're equivalent to a Trooper 1st Class?

Interesting that the Moebians also use the (presumably Cadian?) Whiteshield terminology (in addition to Conscript)

[green loom]

It's probably not just cadian terminology

Seeing as most regis are modeled on/trained by cadians

I wouldn't be shocked that the Imperium has multiple regiments that utilize shitty conscripts/child soldiers as whiteshield formations

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

Cadian white shields having better stats then normal conscripts

Is still the funniest shit ever

180 cadian children and teenagers

Truly the best use of your points

[young pecan]

Well, the saying about war does go that the young die for the old, not the other way around...

[rose thorn]

uhg im stuck ebtween 2 ideas for a grand court for fleshe ater courts

[opaque coyote]

I played buckshot roulette

[tall plinth]

What the hell is a gold smeller

[opaque coyote]

and the first time I put the gun towards myself it was live

10/10

[dusk patrol]

Take a guess

[opaque coyote]

smells gold clearly

[tall plinth]

I have discovered that I misread that

[opaque coyote]

BREATHE IN GOLD DUST

BECOME THE NEXT MIDAS

THE WORLD SHALL DROWN IN GREEN

METABOLIC VALUE FOR FLESH AUTOMATONS

[tall plinth]

Breath in enough gold dust that you can flex on the doctor when you inevitably have to get an X-ray

[opaque coyote]

[opaque coyote]

I unironically think the Emperor would do that just to fuck with people

Like inbetween the Colonization Period and the Dark Age

He just sniffed gold to make his skeleton shiny and to make the doctors fucking paranoid

Like if you're a perpetual that literally can't die by normal means

You would do some crazy shit because there is zero consequence

[arctic talon]

Gilded lung is my favorite fictional respitory disease

[opaque coyote]

CEO MINDSET

[normal stream]

or make them think that you're a god

[tough haven]

is this true?

I was just joking around, but now that I think about it, it could be a genuine reaction to underhivers seeing a spirer

[rose thorn]

Still going insane on how good this model is

Probably means cities is getting new wizard tho

[opaque coyote]

What is a spirer

[tough haven]

Someone who lives in the spires

AKA a soft rich person

[opaque coyote]

Ah

Well 50% chance that they would simply stab them and steal their shit

But if that's not viable or if they're feeling nice

Yeah they'd probably have a similar reaction

[tough haven]

The bleeding out nobleman calls out for a medicae only to realize that those arent real around these parts

Best I can do is a guy with a hacksaw

[opaque coyote]

A hungry homeless man immediately begins consuming him

While he's still alive

[tough haven]

Eat the rich.

[opaque coyote]

Literally

I would say

50-60% chance to stab the rich mf

And then the rest to either shout at them to go back to the spires

Or even desperately asking them to "take me with you"

[sour hornet]

lore question

why do tech priests always turn themselves into robotic centipedes and shit

like that can't be the most optimal form, right?

[arctic talon]

augmenting yourself + removing your weak old frail flesh is literally part of mechanicus dogma

[arctic talon]

I mean it is in some instances

need to carry more wieght, bigger guns, more armor

ect.

[sour hornet]

ik that at least, but look at cawl

[arctic talon]

Its not like every archmagos ends up looking like a centipede

[sour hornet]

he looks straight up demonic

[arctic talon]

yeah

The Flesh is weak

and Cawl was a Archmagos biologis

who pivoted into being a Dominus

because he found out he really liked killing people

[sour hornet]

?!

[arctic talon]

Dominus is a role any magos/archmagos can get

[sour hornet]

you joking?

[arctic talon]

it overrides your existing title

[normal stream]

till soft rich person comes downhive in a spyrer suit

[arctic talon]

no?

he does enjoy killing people

lol

he finds it greatly satisfying to kill traitors and people who get in his way

[sour hornet]

I though he was Guilliman's right hand scientist bro

[arctic talon]

but he found that Myrmidons went too far for his taste

[arctic talon]

he can be both

[normal stream]

plenty end up as robotic spiders, robotic wheelies, and robotic uh.. floaties

[dapper gyro]

Toaster, don't forget the toaster form.

[normal stream]

ah yes, the final form, cylon-posing-as-human

[sour hornet]

bruh

I get why some Ecclesiarchy people are like "are we sure this isn't heretical"

[arctic talon]

I'm partial to this art of an Archmagos

[normal stream]

I mean, to them the omnissiah is heretical in some ways kek

[arctic talon]

It literally is heresy to the ecclisarchy

but the mechanicus would probably murder the ecclisarchy if they ever came to blows over faith

[normal stream]

is that magma lady

[sour hornet]

yeah

[normal stream]

toth?

[arctic talon]

nah

[normal stream]

koriel zeth?

[sour hornet]

they think it but don't say it

[arctic talon]

magma lady is pretty human

[normal stream]

can't remember her name

[arctic talon]

Koriel Zeth

[normal stream]

ah, ty

[arctic talon]

they say it and get in debates about it tbh, they just don't kill each other over it

(publically)

[normal stream]

they kinda need the mechanicus

[dapper gyro]

It is just a way to keep each other in check.

Because both of them do stupid thing sometimes.

[arctic talon]

on god

[rose thorn]

yumm

[tough haven]

Cause its cool as shit

[tough haven]

Magos' will be like "The necron is a mockery of the human form!" then make themselves into this

"We must remain human, for humanity is blessed by the Omnissiah" and then proceed to make themselves as far from the human form as possible while technically being human

[tough haven]

I'm partial to the true crux mechanicus chads that hover around 50/50

for that is the purest expression of the divine, the beautiful construction of biological humanity with the blessed enhancement of steel

https://youtube.com/shorts/htucMSjGaTI?si=BCylRsmyUy7yDY5H

This is also based

but "Beating the workers increases productivity by 16.7 percent at a 30% increased breakdown rate" is based as well

[tough haven]

Necrons only have one comback and its "Uhm uh...we shacked our gods and bent them to our will!!"

Every time bro

[opaque coyote]

He also has multiple bodies

It's just that his main one looks like a fucking demonic centipede

Magos often have multiple bodies

Including a humanish looking one to interact with fleshbags

[opaque coyote]

Cawl and Trazyn meeting each other never gets old

[opaque coyote]

Also the more terrifying they look

It's also likely that it's used for combat as well

So it's not necessarily meant to

look pretty

It's literally meant to terrify people

I mean imagine being in a battlefield and seeing this:

[opaque coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVVSl9wtToc

This is the definition of
"The writer definitely didn't intend this, but it is cool"

The bad writing unintentionally created a fantastic hidden story.

[acoustic hinge]

beefy breacher

[opaque coyote]

awesome tau

[acoustic hinge]

The Greater Good 🙏

[opaque coyote]

The Greater Good 🙏

[outer wave]

Tau when thick

[acoustic hinge]

first time i seen a thick tau

[tardy zodiac]

So who or what is Oktad

[acoustic hinge]

dont know

[arctic talon]

I love tau breachers

Funny shotgun unit

[acoustic hinge]

best unit to build i think, why would u build the strike

im building pathfinders atm, spotty long gun dudes

[dusk patrol]

https://www.londonstockexchange.com/news-article/GAW/agreement-with-amazon-for-films-and-tv-series/16803258

It’s official

Also Warhammer Fantasy too which is interesting

[spare osprey]

Kinda expected tbh

I think they could do great with fantasy stuff

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s not surprising

Another obvious thing to draw from if 40k is successful

Curious if that includes AoS legally

Either way, hopefully it’s good

Releasing this the same day as secret level too

[opaque coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdfMRY-RWWU

[dusk patrol]

He’s cool and therefore everything he does is based and ok

[opaque coyote]

Honestly the only argument that could genuinely be made was the fact that he was

quite literally lobotomized

and therefore his actions weren't of sound mind because well

he was lobotomized

[opaque coyote]

but this is far more logical

https://tenor.com/view/shockwave-logical-reply-transformers-transformers-prime-gif-23564077

[opaque coyote]

me when I see the following:

• The Mechanicus

• Tau Mechas

• Any form of Titan or Titan equivalent

• Any form of Knight or Knight equivalent

[spare osprey]

Just finished secret level

[mild depot]

its so beautiful

[fallen marsh]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/c2ngqfgb/major-update-on-amazon-studios-warhammer-stories/

[queen laurel]

no age of sigmar?

[dusk patrol]

We’ll see I guess.

[queen laurel]

welp hopefully with this deal AOS stops getting shafted in the presentation department

[fallen marsh]

Unless its under Warhammer Fantasy license I don't see that happening

[dusk patrol]

I could see it happening in the future but right now I doubt the Fantasy thing is even in the cards

40k first and go from there

Also Secret Level is gorgeous

Titus passes all his willpower checks

[celest dome]

Aye, RoR could have been a great game, sadly they wanted the console market, and failed

[fallen marsh]

It was weaker version of DoW2. And Strategy games in general are not very popular and its hard to break into the market with new title.

[celest dome]

DoW2 still had base building though

[acoustic hinge]

u barely build a base in dow2

just upgrade the hq tiers, everything comes outta that

[plush mason]

DOW2 was more of an ARPG

especially in the campaigns and last stand

and yeah i agree that if RoR had been a more traditional rts it would have faired a lot better

[acoustic hinge]

i love the elite mod

added grey knights

[hallow saddle]

chuds BTFO

[crystal forum]

the main character better be a woman i swear to god

i need this salt

[dusk patrol]

https://youtu.be/JcZ2O4MDkn0?si=ywg1BJ2RapYerGNS

[green loom]

This is p cool

[queen laurel]

look i know they are willing to prove their faith to chaos and stuff but is charging a superhuman that can breakneck tackle a car and destroy said car with nothing but a few dinky little blades and weapons really a good idea?

[dusk patrol]

Based off the result

I’m gonna go with no

[queen laurel]

yeah like at least try to shoot them

[dusk patrol]

Tbf to them that’s probably the only time they’ve seen marines ever. Last time too.

A common theme in books is guardsmen being shocked at marines in action even with the propaganda expectations

And these guys don’t strike me as winning the contest for best life choices

[queen laurel]

yeah but like still you would think they would keep in mind that these guys are like taller than them

and bigger

at least just trying to shoot at itAt least just trying to shoot at it

[dusk patrol]

They probably thought they had numbers and the vehicles

Seems like they’re setting it up for the Russ the whole time

[queen laurel]

welp they don't have to worry about it now

[dusk patrol]

Titus is definitely the DPS main

The only who always does his own thing but it works out so you can’t get upset

[queen laurel]

i will say even if i don't like marines as much this alone shows why they are the face of the setting

[green loom]

I like how brutal and quick they are

[green loom]

Really shows this

[dusk patrol]

The speed and efficiency were really well done

Better than anything we’ve seen

[green loom]

Really brings through the vibe when they're described as "too fast"

[queen laurel]

Yeah and you have to imagine these guys are the calmer combatants

[dusk patrol]

Speed with that kinda mass is hard to make it look good

[queen laurel]

if it's a space wolf and a space shark it's probably gonna be even more bloody

[dusk patrol]

God yeah imagine Space Wolves or Flesh Tearers like this

[green loom]

It's a little uncanny but I think that's the point

[queen laurel]

yep

[green loom]

Funny thing

The Axe has like

No effect on how the guy moves

[dusk patrol]

The bits where he throws a jabs at the cultists and they just go flying were really well done

And yeah how light it all is

[queen laurel]

from the looks of those those are power weapons yeah

but they seem to be deactivated

[dusk patrol]

Don’t need to waste the power

[queen laurel]

that is true

[green loom]

No I mean you can see it's portrayed as light

[dusk patrol]

The casual confidence too

Like he’s done this a million times

Cause he has

[green loom]

Repeated with Titus jumping up

The massive fkn leap

And then just a pause

[dusk patrol]

Also shows why Titus was a Captain

[storm jungle]

the only part i think is kinda bullshit is them tanking that Leman Russ' minigun but otherwise yeah

[dusk patrol]

Fun short, enjoyed it a lot

[green loom]

I've only seen this 2 minute scene too

Is it like half the episode

[dusk patrol]

Episode is 20 minutes

About

[green loom]

GUH

[queen laurel]

I mean they did put up the shield 1st and Titus was already bull rushing to position so

[storm jungle]

Lmao yeah I know

[dusk patrol]

This is the most heavy action but there’s other scenes

The end is quite cool

The other shorts are good too

[queen laurel]

Yeah I know sometimes you need to be desperate to go to chaos but like look at the damn thing it's like twice your size and probably weighs more than your entire family combined

[dusk patrol]

The armored core one was beautiful

They all have been though

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/power-hayden-christensen-star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-annakin-skywalker-gif-5266504

[arctic talon]

The armored core one was very meh

But it was cool to watch

[dusk patrol]

Visually

[arctic talon]

So I don’t really care

[storm jungle]

Yeah i dont really like armored core since its just gundams

[dusk patrol]

The story was whatever

[storm jungle]

but it looks cool enough

kinda

ish

[arctic talon]

Clearly you haven’t committed enough Warcrimes

[dusk patrol]

Keanu has never been a compelling actor

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

since every episode is its own thing what episode is the warhammer one

[dusk patrol]

5

Of 8

[arctic talon]

I was hoping Keanu was going to murder like

[dusk patrol]

The 40k one is one of the longest too

[arctic talon]

Innocent people

Smh

Instead they attacked a normal target

[dusk patrol]

All he did was execute defenseless combatants

Lame

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Not murdering literal striking workers

Also it seems to not be associated with any armored core generation oddly

Despite using AC6 parts mostly

[dusk patrol]

Definitely was a bold choice of the towns populace to beat up on and insult the guy who has a giant Mech suit he can whip out

[arctic talon]

Idk

The company paid me like

1000$ for every civilian filled helicopter I shoot fown

[dusk patrol]

It was cool but yeah the story was eh

I haven’t seen the others

[green loom]

How was the Pac man one

[dusk patrol]

Apparently good

I gotta watch the uh

The shitty discontinued game one

[arctic talon]

Concord?

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

All the characters in that short weren’t even in the game

[dusk patrol]

lol

Well

Not a bad thing

https://tenor.com/view/concord-sony-it-z-gif-4305971096299954212

[arctic talon]

That design isn’t even that bad imo

It’s like not great

[queen laurel]

what are series that are currently in this first part

[arctic talon]

For what

[queen laurel]

secret level

if they're planning to do a second one even so I'm just asking what's shown in the first one

[dusk patrol]

DnD, Concord, PAC Man, there’s a Sony episode, Shifu or whatever

40k, Armored Core

Crossfire

[queen laurel]

hmm i see

[dusk patrol]

It’d be cool if they did a Mechanicum tie in

I kinda hope we might get a Vermintide short at some point

[green loom]

The poor reused bolt pistol asset lol

[arctic talon]

Chaos using primaris guns W

First depiction in art

[storm jungle]

Warhammer has gone woke...

billions must soy

[queen laurel]

Ubersreik 5 would go hard

[dusk patrol]

Or 4

The elf doesn’t matta

[crystal forum]

saw a video of real soldiers unironically using purity seals with christian text

[dusk patrol]

But no that would be really fun

[crystal forum]

media literacy is important

[dusk patrol]

40k didn’t originate the idea of that kinda thing

[storm jungle]

Yeah was gonna say

[dusk patrol]

Blessing weapons and having prayers and shit is

[storm jungle]

a lot of people argue that it did when like no

[dusk patrol]

Super basic and common throughout history

Even just little things and tokens

People have lucky coins ffs

[crystal forum]

what does this look like to you

[storm jungle]

okay but like again

[dusk patrol]

Yes I’m aware

[storm jungle]

40k didnt invent this

[dusk patrol]

It’s just a modern version

[crystal forum]

this is explicitly a 40k thing

[dusk patrol]

Some of its tongue in cheek for these guys, they also put 40k symbols on vehicles

[celest dome]

Is 40k the reason they did, possible, but it's something warhammer did cause it really happened in the past

[dusk patrol]

They’re kids

They’re goofing off largely, shits boring

[celest dome]

Drone battalion being called Khorne Group

[dusk patrol]

Officer said I can paint an Ork symbol on my tank

Eastern Europeans in particular love that shit

[green loom]

There's a whole division/regiment called "Khorne" lol

[dusk patrol]

Blessing weapons and stuff is super common

[green loom]

I think they have the khornate symbol as their icon too

[dusk patrol]

I doubt many think it’s gonna work but

Why not?

[green loom]

They're bored

[crystal forum]

it's not used ironically, is the worst part

[green loom]

And probably more than a little insane by this point

[dusk patrol]

Soldiers have weird senses of humor and people get weird about stuff

It’s not really any different than having a lucky coin

Or some bullshit

Some I’m sure take it more seriously

[storm jungle]

Most soldiers care just about blowing people apart

[crystal forum]

it's orthodox christian text. this is not just a joke, they believe it will help them not die

[storm jungle]

its like the U.S Marines using the punisher's symbol/skull

[dusk patrol]

Yes I know Jay

[crystal forum]

you dont seem to

[raven stone]

Not sure if already posted here but.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/l9z3jr70/the-mysterious-ty-onmyodo-coven-is-here-to-stalk-the-underhive/

[dusk patrol]

As I said they literally have priests bless guns lol

[raven stone]

A very respectable attempt to mix Japaneze aesthetics into Necromunda

[dusk patrol]

It’s silly but whatever

[crystal forum]

"kids will be kids"
as soldiers try any way to not die from bullets

[dusk patrol]

Yes

War makes people weird, and why not?

Who gives a fuck

I’d put one on

Might as well

[crystal forum]

it's ironic

[raven stone]

I think there is an Ukranian Inquisition legion as well

Alongside the Khorne one

Make of that what you will

[dusk patrol]

Soldiers would put bible passages and favorite pages on their clothes and person during World War II and I

[crystal forum]

those were not 40k inspired

[dusk patrol]

And other wars

[crystal forum]

i bring this up in the 40k channel for a reason

[dusk patrol]

Ok they also put girls with nice tits on their stuff

Like, it’s silly but idk what’s confusing

[raven stone]

Battlefield superstitions, in general, had been a thing.

40k may become a new sort of manifestation of those, but the superstitions regarding battles and wars was always a part of human nature

For example. The "Bullet with your name on it."

[crystal forum]

using 40k symbolism unironically with real christian symbolism is just stupid and your drunk uncle words are wasted breath when you probably agree

[dusk patrol]

I imagine using 40k stuff is partially a joke and ironic and partially serious for these guys

[raven stone]

Agreed, most likely a mix of the above.

[dusk patrol]

It’s not any less silly than having a lucky coin or whether

[raven stone]

To them it really is the end of their world as they know it

[dusk patrol]

It’s superstition

[raven stone]

And they needed to put a face on something unfamiliar.

[dusk patrol]

A lot of them are gonna die or might

[crystal forum]

im not talking about a lucky coin

[dusk patrol]

Yes you are basically

It’s all the same

[crystal forum]

except im not talking about that

straight up telling me what my own point is

[raven stone]

Look, let's just take a step back.

When pushed into a situation of extreme. People will take ANYTHING and make superstitious symbolism from it.

Doesn't matter if it is 40k, real religions, or heavens forbid Hello Kitty.

[dusk patrol]

Plenty of them are gonna die or get close, maybe injuried, I’m not gonna make fun of some superstitions which been done since forever

And probably will never stop

Hell, if it gives them something to do and raise morale a bit

[celest dome]

Where do you think 40k pilfered those symbolism ? 🤡

[dusk patrol]

It’s a worthwhile usage of time

[crystal forum]

you should since these purity seals are being given by the orthodox church itself

[dusk patrol]

Again Jay

They literally have blessed guns and done shit like this

Since guns existed

[raven stone]

But that is more resurrecting ancient Medieval practices which they probably did way back when anyways...even with swords and such

It just so happens 40k is, by sheer coincidence

The only franchise

To apply that thinking to Sci Fi weapons

[crystal forum]

cant talk about shit in here without everybody talking about everybody already knows everything

[celest dome]

They used to bless spear and swords in Western europe too

[raven stone]

I mean, I kind of get your point, TBF. You don't want a fictional franchise to be used as actual war symbolism.

[dusk patrol]

My point is largely I’m not gonna make fun of some poor schmucks in a war because they get a little superstitious or turn to their faith

[raven stone]

But that is not something anyone can fully control.

[storm jungle]

Yeah hence my Punisher symbol example earlier

that at least is those marines just being douchebags

thinking they are "heroes" for liberating said province lol

[crystal forum]

im going to call the russian orthodox church a bunch of fearmongering backwards hypocrites for fueling this

and for being anti gay

[dusk patrol]

Ok whatever

[crystal forum]

nice talk

[raven stone]

There is an entire discussion - perhaps too heavy - as to whether one can sympathise with the foot soldier grunts of an invasive state, and only despise their leaders/spiritual leaders.

[fallen marsh]

Ukrainians to the same thing

[celest dome]

Not a coincidence, GW picked stuff from everywhere

[dusk patrol]

It depends and I don’t think it’s as simple as “little guy ok big guy bad”, it depend on how they act and all that

But regardless I need to sleep

[raven stone]

Sorry should have been clear, GW is the only one who created a Sci Fi Franchise that leans heavily on medieval aesthetics and beliefs

[storm jungle]

Soon the wokies will ruin even that

😔 😔 😔 😔

[raven stone]

Wait you saying that?

I did not see that coming...

[storm jungle]

We live in strange times

anyway Women

https://tenor.com/view/women-hahaha-women-ha-women-haha-women-ha-meme-women-haha-meme-gif-17322703594444218658

[queen laurel]

sorry Chewbacca but your race has been classified as wokies

[storm jungle]

[remote widget]

Are fantasy orks bound to the same rules as 40k orks?

[storm jungle]

Minus the mechanical stuff yes

[queen laurel]

Pretty much

Basically just lack the mechanical stuff

They can still reattach their limbs by sewing

They still grow large after battles

Their beliefs manifest because they somehow can still produce their own magic field

It's all there

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rhett-and-link-nerd-mad-gif-7395306280408432866

[celest dome]

I mean, it's not exaclty the same way that 40k Belief power work

[queen laurel]

do they have a magicfield?

[raven stone]

They have access to Magic like all other fantasy races

[storm jungle]

Their magic is still present and as goofy but yeah its not as wild as 40k

tho they still got Gork's FOOT

[raven stone]

The Belief Field (TM) is less important because of the lack of tech

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

Yeah but they still practically on paper still produce their own magic field making their magic come to life

[raven stone]

Ah ok

[queen laurel]

and you know the savage orcs

[celest dome]

It's more akin to Divine magic, upon which one of their fulcrum is the presence of many Orcs and Goblins

[queen laurel]

we're just literally the whole paint effect thing

[storm jungle]

Yeah what Cacti said

40k orks are in the middle, Fantasy is on the start of the chart, AoS Orks are prob the top

[celest dome]

Warhammer fantasy magic is my jam

[queen laurel]

Yeah but I'm not saying what type of magic it is I'm saying that it they are similarly both producing magical fields somehow

Like literally one of the most accurate things in war in between the settings is orcs can somehow produce their own magical field

Which is used by their mages

Like yes it's quite literally divine magic because you know foot of gork is quite literally the foot of gork

But like if we're talking species characteristics both of them you know produce a energy field

[celest dome]

Do Weirdboy depend on the Warp ?

[queen laurel]

No

[celest dome]

All Divine Magic still is Wind Magic

Even the Orc one

[queen laurel]

Yes it's divine magic but i'm talking about the characteristics of both races

Like both of them produce a magical field

But the way the wizards use it is completely different

[celest dome]

It's not really correct

[queen laurel]

No they don't

[celest dome]

All magic is gathered by ambient thing

[queen laurel]

They completely use their own magic

[celest dome]

For example if you're a Death Magister or a Necromancer, going into a Graveyard, or on a Battlefield will let you pull more Wind of magic than if you did it in the wilderness

The same thing happen for Divine Magic, or Ley Line magic (Kislev and Athel Loren),

Magic has both Fulcrums, and ingredients, and the main fulcrum of an Orc shaman is the battle spirit of Orcs, but there isn't an internal magic field like 40k ones do

[queen laurel]

My cactus friend I know that every magic in warhammer is tied to the winds, i was talking about the similarities of the races

Like both of them produce a magic field yes 1 is different but they still produce a magic field

[celest dome]

But the Orc one doesn't give mechanics like the Orks do

[queen laurel]

Yes but like some mechanics are still there like the savage war paint

[celest dome]

The Paint/tattoo armour is a ritualised spell, like Rune Magic, Magick and so on.
Unlike Orks, they don't work if they're not applied by a Shaman

[queen laurel]

i am aware of the differences i was literally just stating the similarities and like the shaman still use mostly orc energies to use the runes

i know i'm sounding a bit of a ******* here but like i literally just said the similarities

i don't doubt you but like i'm just saying they have similarities

[tough haven]

Would streets for maintenance workers and the common folk that keep a more rich district functioning have “buildings” or rooftops?

I’m trying to describe an ambush from above in such a section

[raven stone]

Are you in a Hive city?

Or what sort of world?

If nondescript world in general, or a Hive city like Tertium, I would say you are justified in having that

You would need something like a Feudal or Feral world for that to become questionable

[celest dome]

Poor people road with rich people road right above it

It's very variable, can do pretty much anything and it would work, even if it's a quirk of your world

[raven stone]

Also not so subtle commentary on the masses supporting the rich rofllmao

Which, in all honesty

Is in tune with the satirical nature of 40k

[hasty coral]

That secret level episode

Fucking CINEMA

[storm jungle]

Its pretty alright

I was more excited for the tzeentch stuff than anything with the space marines mostly ngl lmao

[tough haven]

Hive city

[tough haven]

Wait it’s out?

[tough haven]

Any ideas for some random encounters the party can run into while traveling if they get off track?

I had the idea of a ratling bumping into them and stealing something and running off

A stall selling fenced weapons and gear

A few mutants attacking people

[tough haven]

Is the show out? I figured they’d release the episodes one at a time

[storm jungle]

I watched it just now

so i dunno, i dont uh "legally" watch it persay so lol

[rose thorn]

Old world right?

Also me being summed any time someone mentions something tangentially related to AOS (idk how I do this)

[queen laurel]

you have AOS sense

[rose thorn]

Yet I can’t tell you a single thing about lumineth realm lords except they are facists

[tight stratus]

Came in the post today

[rose thorn]

I’m thinking I’m gonna make one of those posts you see on Reddit that’s like 10 homebrew sub factions with a little bit of lore that anyone can use for cities of sigmar

[rose thorn]

Iron hands fan detected

Are you depressed or like cyborgs or both (stereotyping)

[rose thorn]

Also what’s the seal made of?

[tight stratus]

was brozing warhammer store for things to buy and saw purity seal and went "Oh its just like darktide" andbought it

but accidentally bought 2 because the warhammer store makes it really easy to accidentally buy two

The seal itself is made of a heavy metal of some sorta, its very very weighty

[rose thorn]

Oh nice

[tight stratus]

the paper part is like a thin foam substance

[hasty coral]

Yep

Not every episode I don’t think

[hasty coral]

But a majority are out

[tight stratus]

i doubt these two pins will be enough to hold this on most things

[storm jungle]

ıts actually very good

I had one seal attached to my bag for 5 years now

[tight stratus]

nice! thats where I was going to put mine

[storm jungle]

you know how those pins work then?

it took me like 10m to figure it out years ago lmao

[rose thorn]

That’s pretty sick actually

[tight stratus]

yeah you just sandwich the fabric of the bag between the pin cap and the pin

[storm jungle]

Yeah exactly

[rose thorn]

Honestly I was expecting much worse from the seals

[storm jungle]

The seals are very cool

the ink weairng off with rain/other environmental shit actually also adds to its flair

[tight stratus]

I bought one for my friend for christmas, but I accidentally bought 2 so I also have one now

(i expected it also to be bigger)

[tough haven]

How could I describe servitors hijacked by Aeldari?

Beyond I was maybe thinking having a chunk of some psychoactive crystal sticking out of them

[rocky gale]

The seals have got better, I got a blood angels one when it came out and it was bad, had to get a replacement

[sand bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcZ2O4MDkn0

[storm jungle]

Some small device like that would work pretty well

Eldar already got advanced af tech so its good enough lol

[rose thorn]

What witch said or mind control

[rocky gale]

Like printed wrong, at an angle instead of straight and blurry

[tough haven]

Would they act or speak strangely?

[rocky gale]

Replacements was fine though

[tough haven]

I meant like behavior wise

I was going to have them wander aimlessly unless you try to take out the crystal, after which they will attack

[storm jungle]

A servitor is a servitor

what is the eldar using it for?

[tough haven]

And they would just repeat the darktide broken servitor lines occasionally

[tough haven]

Mostly for distraction/as a meat shield or bodyguard

[storm jungle]

Just randomly showing up to protect the group?

[tough haven]

They’d serve to engage the party while the Aeldari prepare an ambush

[tough haven]

No, the servitors show up first and block the party’s path

[storm jungle]

To help set up an ambush?

[tough haven]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

If thats the case then just have the servitor be malfunctioning, theres no point for the eldar to sabotage it with a device when the things are already half rotten corpses on treads

[tough haven]

Servitors show up, block the party’s path then a ranger shows up and offers the party an ultimatum, give the artifact the party is hunting to the eldar, or die

[storm jungle]

Why not just properly negotiate with the party, why threaten them

[tough haven]

I want the servitors to respond to the eldar though, since mechanically their purpose in the fight is to prevent the party from just bum rushing the eldar gunmen

[tough haven]

Oh they’ll negotiate with the party, the ultimatum is if the party acts hostile or refuses to negotiate

[storm jungle]

Ah I see.

In that case yeah you can just have the servitor be re-programmed

[tough haven]

Effectively the negotiations are “Xenos tech is heresy to you yes? So why don’t you hand it over to us instead of giving it to humans that will only misuse it, and wash your hands clean of the whole affair”

[storm jungle]

Yeah sounds about right for the whole thing lol

[tough haven]

If the party shows reluctance the ranger that mediates will give some speech about how they need to get the artifact to reclaim their honor and it’s their people’s property and mon-keigh have no right to it blah blah blah

Party probably won’t care, and try to shoot them

Roll initiative

[storm jungle]

If i was the DM id probably make them all get killed because im evil and parties making stupid decisions always bugs me

[tough haven]

Also the ranger was picking off threats while tailing the party earlier too (because they want the party to lead them to the thing, not because they care)

[storm jungle]

Yeah checks out.

[tough haven]

They’ll flat out say that at a certain point they stopped caring to assist because at that point no matter who won the fights, they could follow them to the item

[tough haven]

It’s not exactly a stupid decision, as the mechanicus had threatened them with servitorization if they fail to recover the item and give it to them

[storm jungle]

Creating unnecessary points of conflicts through dilemmas that can be easily solved by just talking with the other party is usually pretty stupid.

[tough haven]

And one of the party is inquisition and has orders to recover and xenotech and keep it out of the hands of xenarites or the cold trade (so the inquisitor can blackmail them for it later)

[storm jungle]

well that and the party is largely homeless people so its not too surprising

[tough haven]

The party gets to choose “who do you want to try to kill you”

[storm jungle]

Last i recall werent they already going to get crossed by the admech either way

[tough haven]

Only if they don’t get the goods, or decide to go along with the inquisition

[storm jungle]

Well the latter is happening either way isnt it

you cant exactly trust the admech lol

[tough haven]

Ideally the party returns the tech to the eldar, they take the soul stones which is all they wanted anyways (but I don’t want to present it like that) and the party gives the rest to faction of choice

Inquisitor will be cool regardless of choice because either way they get info on or to play each party against each other

[storm jungle]

considering parties usually always go against the script prob make sure to prepare against any contingency lol

[tough haven]

Give it to the eldar and now you have a bargaining chip in future negotiations

Give it to admech, now they know they are xenarite and can use them in the future or turn them in if they don’t play along

Give it to inquisition, and now they can really hold it over each factions heads

[tough haven]

Idk what other options to prepare for

[storm jungle]

You’re the DM its your job

Otherwise youll maybe end up in an awkward position

[tough haven]

No I mean I can’t think of what else they might do besides try to kill everyone or something, in which case, the solution is easy

They die

[barren prawn]

ratling lore fucking sucks

[tough haven]

Like written poorly or a shitty lot in life

[barren prawn]

theyre portraited as simple hobbit like creatures that just like to eat how the hell did they spread to so many worlds and not just any but paradise worlds

[gray umbra]

You know how people used to use children during the industrial age because they could fit into small places to do machinery work

[crystal forum]

does santa dilara throw coal at everybody

[gray umbra]

I imagine thats a big reason

[crystal forum]

i feel like a lot of coal is involved no matter the context

[gray umbra]

Also they make fantastic snipers apparently

Her elves are ratlings

[crystal forum]

why do bad kids get coal anyways

like of all things

feels like something that would be a funny 40k tradition

[gray umbra]

https://youtu.be/xCTFWG7208o?si=g-YdmhJWrJsMNdUw

Average hive ratling

[crystal forum]

"if you dont fulfill your manufactorum quota you will get prometheum poured on you"

[crystal forum]

rattling would pretend to be a kid just to steal school lunch

[tough haven]

“Why do you have a full beard and smoke?”

[crystal forum]

tbf im pretty sure most hiver kids smoke

[shadow plover]

The Secret Level episode was quite enjoyable

[tall plinth]

Wait there’s cigarettes in 40k?

[queen laurel]

yes

[tall plinth]

What am I saying I’ve definitely seen an ogryn with a cigar

[queen laurel]

Lho-stick

[crystal forum]

lho sticks because GW understandably doesnt want to represent tobacco

[crystal forum]

im surprised they bothered putting filters

[tall plinth]

Hey that’s prettt cool

[queen laurel]

yeah these are lho-stubs

[tall plinth]

What does LHO mean?

[crystal forum]

sci fi word

like recaf and amasec

[queen laurel]

sci-fi mumbo jumbo

[celest dome]

Star Wars has them as Death Stick iirc

[tall plinth]

Neither of those have more meaning to me than LHO

[queen laurel]

the fuck

why call it a death stick

[crystal forum]

it shouldn't lol

[tall plinth]

It’s a stick

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-death-sticks-clone-episode-two-prequels-gif-15245462

[tall plinth]

Death stick

That’s what they called me in college

500 LHO-sticks

average ogryn daily consumption

[queen laurel]

nah ogryns use the lho-stubs

basically cigars

[tall plinth]

I know I was referencing that 500 cigarettes meme from a while back

[queen laurel]

yes

[tall plinth]

And that if an ogryn were to smoke cigarettes he’d probably smoke 500

[queen laurel]

no worries i am just incredibly blunt

[tough haven]

How does this sound for a description of an Aeldari

[crystal forum]

like my di

[tough haven]

“You inspect the newcomer’s appearance. You can tell from her pointed ears, pale skin, lithe frame, and the subtle, yet inhuman way she moves, that she is one of the fickle Aeldari, only one of the myriad alien enemies of humanity.”

[crystal forum]

it's very short and very wide

like a large pepperoni

[storm jungle]

id say add some bit saying they can be on and off allies adding to their rumored duplicity

if you just say they are an "enemy" the players will act stupid and just attack because Evil Alien

[crystal forum]

using alien instead of xeno

[tight stratus]

Christmas time in Tertium 😌 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE4shVkwqIk

[tough haven]

My players don’t really know that word yet

[crystal forum]

oh wow

[tough haven]

I’m introducing them to 40K through this one shot

[crystal forum]

nvm then

[tough haven]

You inspect the newcomer’s appearance; you can tell from her pointed ears, pale skin, lithe frame, and the subtle, yet inhuman way she moves, that she is one of the Aeldari, only one of the myriad alien enemies of humanity. The Aeldari are known to on occasion make alliances with humans, but they are fickle and their true motives are never clear.

[storm jungle]

yeah much better

a mediator prose usually works better, forces the dumb entourage to actually sometimes also gauge their options

[tough haven]

This is if they fail the check

You inspect the newcomers appearance and surmise that the thin stature, height and pale skin are indicative of a Voidborn, those humans who live their whole lives on voidships. Voidborn often have strange appearances that set them apart from others.

[storm jungle]

they aint no Colombo thats for sure

[tough haven]

If they roll a nat 1 I’ll make them get distracted by their beauty and walk into a lamppost

[tough haven]

The average hiver wouldn’t know a eldar from a hole in the ground unless they’ve travelled

[tough haven]

This excuse works in rogue trader for a long while

@storm jungle think the eldar should use terms like Mon-keigh if they are discovered as xenos?

Just cause they’re negotiating doesn’t mean they think of humans as any less

[storm jungle]

Id say just having them speak normally to them is better

[queen laurel]

if they want to stay on the lighter graces of the party no

[storm jungle]

put yourself in his shoes

would you just say a slur to the people you are trying to convince

lol

[queen laurel]

since he is probably sticking with them you may as well gamble if they are reasonable or not

and plus i have already heard Mon'keigh so much that I will not hesitate to backhand an eldar so hard their soul will end up in slannesh

[crystal forum]

dumb imperials probably think it's a compliment

[storm jungle]

lmfao

[crystal forum]

yes we are your little monkeis

how cute

[tough haven]

Maybe if I could just kill them and still find the mcguffin

[tough haven]

Also my party doesn’t know the lingo

Could be funny

[crystal forum]

you could call me a slur in turkish dilara and i'd legit think it's like your version of habibi or something

[tough haven]

I’d like to imagine the eldar wants the party to get it cause they just don’t want to go get it themselves

Mild inconvenience

[crystal forum]

you know it would be a good introduction to the series if you have them be too nice and then immediately get fucked over by everybody

like in rogue trader

[tough haven]

I kinda wanna do that

Cause they come from dnd where you can 100% be super nice to everyone

[crystal forum]

yep

[tough haven]

But eldar betrayal is a overdone trope

So I won’t

Unless the party does it first

[crystal forum]

could be anything else

like the eldar for some reason is actually truthful but some dumbass noble isn't

to show that nobody can really be your friend

even imperials

ESPECIALLY imperials

the worst thing a new 40k fan could do is assume the imperium is trustworthy

[tough haven]

I’m gonna have the eldar be really mysterious and vague and then have them be 100% truthful

[tough haven]

The mechanicus will kill and or servitorize them if they fail

But they were nice enough to spell that out for them

And the only noble theyll encounter is the BBEG who’s already sent hit squads after them

[crystal forum]

lol

that's a good twist

[tough haven]

Eldar can’t help it, even when they want to be truthful

[crystal forum]

make the noble stupidly incompetent too so it's funny

like the reason a bunch of clueless people beat him is because he's a moron

[tough haven]

They’re a cold trader as well

The noble I mean

[tough haven]

Idk how to do that lol

[storm jungle]

Buddy you gotta figure this shit out yourself sometimes

its like half the thing of being a DM

we cant always help you

lmao

[tough haven]

Fair enough

I just get decision paralysis lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah but it happens too much

[queen laurel]

Yes but sometimes I think you don't have a decision paralysis but a decision decapitation

like i get it you need help sometimes but

sometimes just gonna have to grab the bull by the horns and ball

[tough haven]

Grab it by the balls

[queen laurel]

if you wanna die sure

[tough haven]

The issue is I want them to feel like a real threat

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/jy7uO32L3Pk?si=ULIIkZshel7ScjSy

damn they are cooking

[crystal forum]

the game is going to be easy for them by design right? i'd use that as an excuse for why the scenarios are very clear to understand. like the noble hiring pathetic goons to kill the party because he's dumb

them getting ambushed in what is clearly a trap

[wintry scarab]

Welp. We got the mk7/8 but at what cost... I know that the one without the heraldry is being dripfed but still kinda sucks.

Also anyone seen the 40k secret level episode yet? Without spoilers how was it? Good, bad?

[crystal forum]

the mouth part looks off

like it's too big or smth

[wintry scarab]

Its the visors. Theyre too far apart. But hey, better than the god damn MAXIMUS style mk10! God, i hate that thing.

[crystal forum]

the what?

[rocky gale]

Silly looking Firstborn helmet still looks silly, more news at 11

[crystal forum]

[wintry scarab]

"what" as in "visors" or "maximus mk10"?

[crystal forum]

maximus mk10

[rocky gale]

Maximus was the name for Mk IV

[crystal forum]

did they add a freakish mk 4-10 chimera

[rocky gale]

Well one of them

[wintry scarab]

As in like the mk10 is just the maximus helmet but primaris.

[crystal forum]

oh lol

the paintball mask design

very scary

[wintry scarab]

There, i put the "style" to clear it up.

[crystal forum]

i genuinely wonder if they did the switch to completely avoid any issues with copyrighting the mark 7

since it kiiinda looks like a vader helmet

i dont really see any artistic reasons

[rocky gale]

I mean, the artistic reason is it looks better

[crystal forum]

mark 7 has recognizable branding tho

[storm jungle]

I legit wanna rip that fucking company marking off that helmet's forehead

such an annoying addition

[rocky gale]

Recognisably dumb looking

[crystal forum]

i wont argue with subjectively wrong taste

[storm jungle]

also banned

[rocky gale]

No, I'm tired of people telling me Primaris helmets look bad when they're idolising the goofy ahh MK 7

[crystal forum]

they gotta make as much money as they can for the next 5 years of skins

[storm jungle]

GET OUT

[rocky gale]

Never

[crystal forum]

im more of a mark 3 fan

but mark 7 hits different. it literally looks like it's constantly yelling

i love it

[wintry scarab]

Sinners must pay the toll. You have sinned. Mk7/8 are not goofy. YOU are goofy.

[crystal forum]

also, somebody MUST have photoshopped a mark 7 with upside down grill right?

@storm jungle i know you have this

show me smiling mark 7

[rocky gale]

That's one of the reasons why it's so bad

[dapper gyro]

People still infight for the better helmet...

When Becky is the only way.

[crystal forum]

wow this made me laugh like an idiot in the office

[storm jungle]

its awful

i love it

[crystal forum]

it's as good as expected

gahuh lookin ass

[rocky gale]

unironically better than normal MK7

[crystal forum]

gorsh

[rocky gale]

Still not great..

[crystal forum]

personally i dont like mark 4 and 10 because the grill looks like a paintball mask as i've said times before

which only a 14 year old would find cool

also the pointless tubes on mark 10

annoying to paint in my opinion

[wintry scarab]

I will put you upside down and shake you till coins fall out. Then i will take those coins and not give them back. (Threat)

[crystal forum]

honestly i dont even like any space marine helmets. i just dislike mark 3 the least

though there's some weird lore variants that i like