Actually
#40k-lore-chat
opaque coyote
When would you use an auto gun?
Like maybe against Orks?
But it seems like a Lasgun is better in most circumstances
shadow plover
lasguns are better in most circumstances, but probably more expensive to produce
opaque coyote
So basically
If you're stuck with the regular auto gun. It probably means that supplies are running low
shadow plover
guard rarely uses autoguns but local militia/pdf forces use them
opaque coyote
Or you're fighting Orks since they think shootas hurt more.
So it actually hurts them more
shadow plover
and civilian weaponry are often projectile based
queen laurel
Like maybe against Orks?
nah an ork's muscle structure would mostly block a good chunk of ballistic weapons unless they are higher caliber
and it's common for them to wear scrap metal making them even harder to shoot
shadow plover
opaque coyote
nah an ork's muscle structure would mostly block a good chunk of ballistic weapo...
Wait fr
God damn do Orks have thick muscles
opaque coyote
So basically
queen laurel
probably need to use some of the bigger calibers
queen laurel
You're fucked if you fight against an Ork 1:1
You can win against an ork in A 1V1 you just need to have the appropriate weapon the physique and well luck
But if you don't have those things even a single slugga boy is gonna turn you into a ******* cheesecake
opaque coyote
You can win against an ork in A 1V1 you just need to have the appropriate weapon...
I thought their muscles were like
Regular tbh
Like they're muscular AF but y'know
Muscles can be destroyed by bullets
Apparently not for an ORK
THE GALAXY IS GREEN.
azure knoll
isnt it scaled proportionally to the size of people because they're said to be larger than today's humans?
sour hornet
You're fucked if you fight against an Ork 1:1
Melta or Plasmagun it's green ass, literally the guard solution to 99% of things on a squad level.
opaque coyote
Melta or Plasmagun it's green ass, literally the guard solution to 99% of things...
Yeah tbh I was thinking more like
"You're forced to box an Ork"
In which case you'd probably have a better time boxing Mike Tyson
shadow plover
or silverback gorilla
sour hornet
Oh, fist to fist, you're about 30 miles up shit creek with no paddle.
opaque coyote
Luckily humanity's strength never was in it's pure physicality
...
Before I sleep I propose a question
sour hornet
More in its teeming numbers and ferocity.
opaque coyote
How many shots from like
A regular Glock
Would to take to kill one Boy
Would it even penetrate his skin
Would the rounds literally bounce off their skull
shadow plover
you'll surely penetrate skin, a bit of the tissue beneath too but you'd probably need quite a few shots to put one down
queen laurel
Muscles can be destroyed by bullets
it's a mixture of fungus and animal
shadow plover
skull might take a couple hits too before any damage
queen laurel
Yeah like a jerk says it's gonna take a lot of bullets and you will probably need the bigger calibers
a pistol will probably do nothing more than just tickle an ork
opaque coyote
you'll surely penetrate skin, a bit of the tissue beneath too but you'd probably...
Honestly I'm imagining a horror scene where like
Some poor bastard only has a shitty low caliber gun and tries to shoot an Ork
Only for them to laugh
"THAT TICKLES HUMIE. LET ME SHOW YOU'Z SOME REAL DAKKA"
Anyways
Time to power down
Good night everyone
solid hearth
Is this the first time literal Japan has been mentioned lol
they cooked with these though
storm jungle
Japanese references are rife in 40k its just really spread out
House Ty is just a thing in Necromunda though so theres that
solid hearth
Japanese references are rife in 40k its just really spread out <:KEKW_ogryn:1022...
Specifically to "the Nihon Empire"
queen laurel
Specifically to "the Nihon Empire"
that one is very very bad
storm jungle
Specifically to "the Nihon Empire"
gotta avoid saying Nippon™️ for copyright 😔
rose thorn
House Ty is just a thing in Necromunda though so theres that
They originate from The ‘dragon isles’ on Terra
I wonder where that could be….
solid hearth
what do you think they call canada
storm jungle
They originate from The ‘dragon isles’ on Terra
HMMMM
queen laurel
I wonder where that could be….
China
storm jungle
🧠
solid hearth
URSH
rose thorn
I know some of this is true and has been mentioned but idk where they got all of this lmao
storm jungle
URSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
storm jungle
I know some of this is true and has been mentioned but idk where they got all of...
30k novels where the unification era terra is mentioned in any capacity
all of these are legit, but some of the locations are correct/guess-work
rose thorn
Oh okay lol
storm jungle
Yeah like some go from:
- Fully mentioning what they were and what they did
to
- Lol Hy-Brasil like the myth from wikipedia
like Merica being know for its Gun-tribes
shadow plover
Neork is my favourite
rose thorn
Lmao
queen laurel
like Merica being know for its Gun-tribes
they are not holding back
Imagine a character just being named Eaglus
the mad gunner of the gun-tribes of merica
storm jungle
you joke but thats extremely lore-accurate
queen laurel
you joke but thats extremely lore-accurate
i hate that it is
rocky gale
More cool detachments
Imperial Knights getting a hybrid Admech detachment
and one that lets Chaos Knights include cultists in their lists
celest dome
Are those the Urn people ? The Jars with brain in it
rose thorn
Are those the Urn people ? The Jars with brain in it
The Ty, they manage the psykers and blanks
remote widget
Think the blood angels will get good wings again?
shadow plover
finger lickin' good
storm jungle
finger no-wings-haha lickin' good
storm jungle
These are new minis?
shadow plover
ye
shadow plover
yet you had to ask.. curious
shadow plover
would be pretty embarrassing!
queen laurel
they dont look like shit
i'm gonna be honest i almost thought they are models from warhammer fantasy times
queen laurel
Nah you can tell from the amount of smaller details
yeah the smaller details save me but it's the posturing
that i often look first
i don't know something feels stiff with these guys
celest dome
Necromancer Wizard ?
I suppose it's Shyish/Amethyst Magister's past name
shadow plover
unfortunately if you do that James Workshop will come to your house and kick your dog
if you don't have a dog he will buy you one and then kick it
rose thorn
These are probably the best old world minis yet
rocky gale
Everytime GW announces something cool only to stick "Made from Forge World Resin" at the end, my manifesto gets a page longer
rose thorn
They are full of so much personality and-
shadow plover
you need to face your fears and get a new FW kit and see how good they can be
queen laurel
Everytime GW announces something cool only to stick "Made from Forge World Resin...
ok so does GW only has that access to that type of resin or do they have multiple types of that
Because I know they use plastic and resin but they use resin for more high details stuff
But I also know that forge world resin was incredibly funny to work with
shadow plover
resin moulds allow for more intricate detail compared to plastic injection moulding, that's the main benefit from it
small grail
Whys there a Necromancer?
yes?
small grail
oh
queen laurel
the cooler model above
shadow plover
wind of death isn't strictly for the 'bad guys'
rocky gale
wind of death isn't strictly for the 'bad guys'
Yea but Necromancy is
queen laurel
wind of death isn't strictly for the 'bad guys'
yeah but i'm pretty sure that subsection of death magic was wildly frowned upon
queen laurel
like if you're going pure death spells like you know purple sun death hand shore
but you know meddling with life that's a no no
rocky gale
and something the Amethyst college strongly opposes
shadow plover
I'm not too familiar with the fantasy world but weren't they less frowned upon in the past
something something vampires
queen laurel
I'm not too familiar with the fantasy world but weren't they less frowned upon i...
yeah but this is apparently an empire wizard
rocky gale
Necromancy is basically corrupted version of Death magic
queen laurel
and in the empire necromancy would get you hanged
rocky gale
It requires using Dhar which is dark magic
queen laurel
yes
storm jungle
reading the page now
Some seek out fellow necromancers as mentors, not an easy task when these disgusting wizards are forced to hide in the shadows for fear of discovery and destruction.
rocky gale
Pretty sure the Colleges should still be around at this point
storm jungle
Colleges got made after Magnus the Pious' victory/agreement with the High Elves
Age of the 3 Emps was before him right
or after?
WHAT IS LORE
queen laurel
yeah but Old World is before the old WHFB era
i guess that explains why they are more tolerated
rocky gale
Old World is 2276
Magnus' Reign was 2304-2369
So yea guess the Colleges aren't a thing then yet
celest dome
Because Necromancy is the blending of Shyish and Dhar
Not exactly, it's using Shyish and other Winds in a manner that make Dhar
shell mason
what
celest dome
The Winds of Magic is such an interesting part of BF
queen laurel
The Winds of Magic is such an interesting part of BF
and in AOS dead ass, they made them into realms
celest dome
They somewhat already were implied as such
shell mason
Warhammer Fantasy
okay
rose thorn
and in AOS dead ass, they made them into realms
I love like, (except for shyish for now) the farther you go in each realm the more intense the magic gets
Everything is made of magic
Shyish is reverse (but magic has been shifting to align with the rest)
celest dome
The logic of the sentient is only able to create sense in the center, where people live
I love that
shell mason
Then stop being confused you mothball
ok mom
queen laurel
I love like, (except for shyish for now) the farther you go in each realm the mo...
Yeah it's so nice
shell mason
https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-paulie-gualtieri-paulie-walnuts-you-know-it-...
what is up with you and the sopranos?
shell mason
over exaggerated
storm jungle
If you got no taste that is very possible as an opinion to have.
So watch it Chrissy 
sour hornet
It's commendable how mild their corruption is given how close they are to admonition.
Also our rejects are iron-willed to go up against these freaks of nature time and time again.
hallow plover
They look like regular hive people 🙂
queen laurel
yeah they look like me
storm jungle
Living in America yeah
hallow plover
Average 9-5 worker
storm jungle
I mean 40 whoops
queen laurel
absolutely scary
tall plinth
What even is the food situation in 40k
What are people eating
queen laurel
What even is the food situation in 40k
What are people eating
everything you can think of
hallow plover
Anything edible
queen laurel
But for the poor people it's usually you know not good
tall plinth
Oh
storm jungle
What even is the food situation in 40k
What are people eating
- Meatslabs (Food)
- Nutribars (Food)
- Nutrient-boost (Protein Shot)
- Caffeine-slug (Coffee Drug)
- Recaff-pills (Coffee Drug)
- Vitgruel (Vitamin Gruel)
- Feeder-station
- Synth-lactose (Synthetic Milk)
- Protein-stick
- Carb-bar
- Carb-loaf
- Carb-slice
- Omni-meat
- Ration Block
- Gruel-loaf
- Nutribars
And these are just a few example slol
queen laurel
yeah these are usually given to guard though
storm jungle
most dont even have access to meat
tall plinth
No rotisserie chickens?
queen laurel
regular food is pretty much a thing
queen laurel
No rotisserie chickens?
there is if you can afford it
hallow plover
Lots of "rats" on hooks for consumption in Darktide
storm jungle
No rotisserie chickens?
Uhhh does a mutated sump-rat you caught and cooked count as chicken
tall plinth
Perhaps
storm jungle
queen laurel
Uhhh does a mutated sump-rat you caught and cooked count as chicken
To this day that rat dialogue is still one of the saddest I have read in rogue trader
hallow plover
storm jungle
What on earth is that
Omni means "all"
hallow plover
rations for later
storm jungle
so its basically "all"-meat
tall plinth
Jeez Louise
tall plinth
interesting
dusk patrol
Bro forgot Groxsteak smh
dusk patrol
Fake fan
queen laurel
here's some
queen laurel
no groxbagool
typical eternal with his high standards of living being a space marine
hallow plover
space marines have hyper concentrated nutrient pills
queen laurel
Nutrient paste
tall plinth
Would a rotisserie chicken oven have a machine spirit
dusk patrol
Grox is a pretty common food for even normies.
tall plinth
I’m new to 40k forgive me
storm jungle
Would a rotisserie chicken oven have a machine spirit
The possibility of a machine spirit depends on the complexity of the machine in question
the more techy bits and moving parts the more likely it has one
queen laurel
I’m new to 40k forgive me
no, to the book room you go and read some more
dusk patrol
It’s the one bright spot is apparently Grox tastes amazing
queen laurel
It’s the one bright spot is apparently Grox tastes amazing
Yeah but I don't think most people
in the imperium would even taste Grox
queen laurel
theres also Groxcheese
I am not gonna get into the statistics on how a reptile has milk I'm just gonna
dusk patrol
Its not commonly ate but most people have tried it once or twice
west badge
theres also Groxcheese
sounds like a medical condition.
storm jungle
sounds like a medical condition.
🧀
dusk patrol
It’s like a festival thing for a lot of people
Like how peasants would get meat pies and shit in medieval Europe
tall plinth
no, to the book room you go and read some more
Nah I mean I have a baseline understanding of lore and story points but finer details ESPECIALLY anything with technology eludes me (I skimmed it)
west badge
omnimeat pies?
queen laurel
Nah I mean I have a baseline understanding of lore and story points but finer de...
that's why i said get to reading
chop chop
I'm kidding I'm kidding
tall plinth
🫡
opaque coyote
storm jungle
omnimeat deez nu-
tall plinth
Sah yes sah
dusk patrol
Thank goodness the Imperium are like the Native Americans, they eat all the Grox.
Very efficient, very demure.
opaque coyote
Thank goodness the Imperium are like the Native Americans, they eat all the Grox...
Like the Native Americans AND the Spanish
A two in one package!
storm jungle
Also speaking of
I like how this guy asks a rather meme-like but perfectly reasonable question and half the replies are either deep-thoughful responses or shit like this
Lmfao
rose thorn
Lmao fucking Reddit
storm jungle
Yeah this is like the most condescending redditor reply ive seen
actually made me wheeze
THE GUY IS ASKING ABOUT TOOTH-PASTE RELAX
rose thorn
Its like, a reasonable question he’s probably writing a short story or something lmao
opaque coyote
I once asked how to like
Portray the Imperium in a crossover
And then some dude said this
Let me just pull up the comment
storm jungle
Its like, a reasonable question he’s probably writing a short story or something...
Great point actually lol
dusk patrol
I loved the responses to this one.
Basically tl;dr, he’s talking about if Terra has that many people, it must be a net drain on resources and require a ton of worlds to supply it. As if this is like, some concept that hasn’t come up before.
storm jungle
https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1h9n6zh/if_holy_terra_really_has_a_qua...
oh my god
opaque coyote
Yeah this is like the most condescending redditor reply ive seen
I know that you’re Honkai fan, but by all means, go for it, just say it like something the warp doing their mumbo jumbo things and warp them there, think about which faction was the one that send there, and that work is your oyster.
Just be mindful though, whatever you produce might be label as heretical productions, if you want something like “oh, an imperial ship crashed into honkai verse and now out of the grasp of the imperium, they live in peace and harmony”, then sure, go ahead, make your slice of life work, we have krieg isekai at a peaceful world slice of life so another one wouldn’t surprise me.
But remember that 40k is full with hatred and disgust, love and harmony are almost nowhere to be found, if the warp can send an imperial ship to honkai world, you’ll be sure chaos will follow, and I don’t think your beloved character would live pretty once that happen, those imperial guardsman that isekai there would rather fight the honkai characters to the death as they’re either label as heretics or Xenos, or even chaos spawn.
I would say it as a fan, I would rather have a faithful fan work of 40k instead of what you produce, I have no faith in it and see no reason why these series are intertwine out of… “heretical tendency”
storm jungle
I SAW THAT TODAY
opaque coyote
Actual comment I got btw
storm jungle
No yeah its not a bad question
my joke was its an actually perfectly reasonable one
yet half the comments are treating this guy like a dumbass
queen laurel
It’s not a bad question I mean does toothpaste exist?
yes but there are bad warhammer questions but like you can also answer them without being more condescending than an imperial general
Or eternal reward
dusk patrol
He’s asking questions on Reddit and r/40klore, he is a dumbass
But, it’s also a good question
tall plinth
No question is a bad question, but there are questions that are wastes of time
storm jungle
But yeah basically it would exist to some extent, the top reply says it best, every world would have its alternative to it.
dusk patrol
Still not as bad as people who go to Reddit for relationship advice.
queen laurel
No question is a bad question, but there are questions that are wastes of time
Alright then how do I perfectly cook a child medium rare
dusk patrol
tall plinth
Alright then how do I perfectly cook a child medium rare
Practice
rose thorn
Hey guys is it cheaper to get robot eyes or get glasses in a hive city?
dusk patrol
Alright then how do I perfectly cook a child medium rare
Needs more information
storm jungle
Hey guys is it cheaper to get robot eyes or get glasses in a hive city?
Depends
do you know a good ripper-doc
opaque coyote
Alright then how do I perfectly cook a child medium rare
Firstly chop them up into pieces. Deorgan th-
tall plinth
Would the average hive citizen want a robot eye as opposed to glasses?
tall plinth
It’s true
storm jungle
some would just want glasses some would want bionics
opaque coyote
Would the average hive citizen *want* a robot eye as opposed to glasses?
The average hive citizen wouldn't be able to afford one
storm jungle
Well
that also depends
things get complicated when we talk about an entire populace
everyone has ways/not of making money
especially in such a shithole
everything has a price
opaque coyote
Trie
dusk patrol
I can stop whenever I want
tall plinth
this is already my favorite channel and I’ve not been here for more than 30 minutes
storm jungle
This is mostly a pleasant space and prob the best channel you'll find on this server
everywhere else is bitching about weapon stats
or some other bullshit
dusk patrol
False, Ogryn chat
tall plinth
^
queen laurel
this is already my favorite channel and I’ve not been here for more than 30 minu...
Yeah I'm just gonna say though the conversations here can get incredibly funny
opaque coyote
everything has a price
True black markets and all that.
dusk patrol
I was
tall plinth
False, Ogryn chat
Dude I was just about to say that
dusk patrol
Now it’s nice
storm jungle
Shut up
dusk patrol
No u
opaque coyote
You werent there before the purge
Tyranid (weird culture war people) invasion #29919194
storm jungle
LEGIT
dusk patrol
rose thorn
My favorite thing I’ve read in necromunda lore is that sometimes counterfeit weapons are so high quality they are better than forge world weapons
tall plinth
Counterfeit weapons?
dusk patrol
Very broad
opaque coyote
My favorite thing I’ve read in necromunda lore is that sometimes counterfeit wea...
The equivalent of like
Those little repair shops being better than official Apple repair
dusk patrol
Most basic lasguns are Forgeworld quality
rose thorn
Tbh “forge world quality” is
Lmao fair
dusk patrol
Custom jobs from a Magos or Arch Magos though
opaque coyote
Tbh “forge world quality” is
"military grade" X
dusk patrol
Basically
tall plinth
that exists in real life too with weapons
rose thorn
Rogue factorias
queen laurel
My favorite thing I’ve read in necromunda lore is that sometimes counterfeit wea...
me watching the goliath snap my arm in half after I got a better Stub cannon
tall plinth
it’s wild
dusk patrol
That being said if you want the plasma dick bionic, go Ryza
queen laurel
weapons made to look like the original, usually for illegal or dishonest purposes
but somehow
rose thorn
There’s a rogue factoria in necromunda that is so good they stamp their weapons with their own stamps
opaque coyote
There’s a rogue factoria in necromunda that is so good they stamp their weapons ...
Actual big dick energy
dusk patrol
Necromunda has got some wild shit running around
If you’re lucky it might even be stable
queen laurel
Necromunda has got some wild shit running around
It's literally the most interesting planet in the imperium
Even more so than holy terra
storm jungle
Necromunda has the advantage of having a game based around it
tall plinth
What is necromunda
dusk patrol
Its the one we get the biggest deep dive on
tall plinth
Oh sweet
queen laurel
It's warhammer but it has its own game
dusk patrol
Idk if it’s the most interesting but as far as what we know it’s a lot of fun
rose thorn
Necromunda has got some wild shit running around
Yet poeple will complain when’s someone wants to use xenos models for their gang
opaque coyote
Probably wrong tho lma
dusk patrol
Just do genestealers or Orks, or do Delanque
storm jungle
What is necromunda
Its a big hiveworld, basically has its tabletop game based around it and has been going since 40k's inception as a setting, it also has the advantage of being the most fleshed out planet in the setting due to that fact.
rose thorn
Ye I mean like
storm jungle
Highly suggest checking out its lexicanum page
rose thorn
Using kroot for venerators
tall plinth
Huh
rose thorn
For a kroot bounty hunter gang
tall plinth
Thanks
dusk patrol
It’s got a bunch of gangs who war with eachother and other factions besides
opaque coyote
Yet poeple will complain when’s someone wants to use xenos models for their gang
Imagine a Tau citizen suddenly being stranded in Necromunda
rose thorn
Love me a wacky character or two
If you are gonna read the books, don’t read terminal overkill
Terminal overkill is pretty trash
opaque coyote
Necromunda has a lot
We found the 40k in Warhammer 40k truly
Now we need to find the warhammer
queen laurel
Love me a wacky character or two
one of the gangs is House Goliath Abhumans that don't live long but they can match a space marine in physique
dusk patrol
Like Vandoth the Fallen or Gor Half-horn, Kal Jericho
tall plinth
The real 40k was the friends we made along the way
rose thorn
Like Vandoth the Fallen or Gor Half-horn, Kal Jericho
Vandoth is an amaizng book
dusk patrol
There’s the main factions and there’s a lot of little characters just doing their thing
queen laurel
Like Vandoth the Fallen or Gor Half-horn, Kal Jericho
they called a guy half horn
dusk patrol
And little side factions which can be bought or work with the main ones
rose thorn
The real 40k was the friends we made along the way
Also necromunda all about your custom gang lore
queen laurel
because he's missing the half of his horn
queen laurel
that's pretty creative
dusk patrol
because he's missing the half of his horn
His names Gor.
queen laurel
for beastmen
rose thorn
All of these are resin models btw
dusk patrol
Somehow I doubt he’s a man of complex thinking
queen laurel
His names Gor.
yeah but that's like calling you eternal bald head
but considering this is beastman again
storm jungle
to be fair
dusk patrol
Pew pew, rip and tear
queen laurel
probably the most creative they can go
storm jungle
or Captain Fookin Redbeard
dusk patrol
He has half a horn
queen laurel
its like one-eye
Taurox the brass bull
rose thorn
He’s also a son of the ex planetary governor
storm jungle
Taurox the brass bull
YEAH BECAUSE HES A BRASS BULL
even IRL people give nicknames to people thats usually not complimentary
Nixon being Tricky Dick etc
queen laurel
even IRL people give nicknames to people thats usually not complimentary
al capone being scarface
dusk patrol
Magnus the Red
opaque coyote
YEAH BECAUSE HES A BRASS BULL
It's like most Ork titles except with
Proper spelling
dusk patrol
Guess how he got that name
storm jungle
Magnus the Red
or Cyclops
which is ironically okay a bit goofy
because get it he has one eye
also his old model had a central one eye like a cyclops
but still
queen laurel
because get it he has one eye
spider-man because he has spider powers
storm jungle
spider-man because he has spider powers
I do love how like
opaque coyote
Guess how he got that name
Ferrus Manus
No other commentary needed
dusk patrol
Dick Grayson because h-
storm jungle
Dick Grayson because h-
"Thanks Dick."
rose thorn
Hey what book had the uh, saints of Necromunda
dusk patrol
"Hes called SPIDER MAN?"
RESPECT THE HYPHEN
queen laurel
"What a fucking stupid name"
Iron-man
storm jungle
Superman
opaque coyote
Wonder Woman
opaque coyote
Wonder Woman is interesting due to her uh
Her history
And also the BDSM
queen laurel
**RESPECT THE HYPHEN**
to be fair my favorite spider-man is Spiders-man, it's a hive mind that absorb the mind of peter parker, yes he's made out of spiders
storm jungle
to be fair my favorite spider-man is Spiders-man, it's a hive mind that absorb t...
OH MY FUCKING GOD
WHAT DID THIS MAN DO
storm jungle
This is something straight out of 40k jesus
queen laurel
**WHAT DID THIS MAN DO**
fell in a hive of spiders and get eaten
queen laurel
alive
dusk patrol
I had a Rogue Trader Arbites character with an augmetic mouth, I’m sure you can’t guess where I got that idea.
And he was just called “Slackjaw”
rose thorn
Found them
dusk patrol
Anyways I’d club people to death with the jaw
storm jungle
I had a Rogue Trader Arbites character with an augmetic mouth, I’m sure you can’...
Dishonored my beloved
opaque coyote
i heard a lot about it lol
On one hand, it was a genuinely important step towards female rights.
On the other hand uh
The original creator believed that women were inheritely better than men.
Also participated in a lot of BDSM.
Also in a Poly relationship. With two other women.
dusk patrol
Dishonored my beloved
Grenny Raegs
rose thorn
GELT, THE SAINT OF COIN
Credits are a universal language on Necromunda – many a ganger prays for more credits to head their way. Shrines devoted to Gelt spring up everywhere where coins change hands, in the hopes that his blessing will be passed on.
My favorite is
storm jungle
GELT?
rose thorn
GLURG, THE GUNK SAINT
Gunk is in many ways the lifeblood of Necromunda; it lubricates the machinery, it can be burned as fuel, it even sustains you in dire straits.
queen laurel
@storm jungle
rose thorn
WARHAMMER FANTASY MENTIONED
Theres a gelt in every setting lmao
dusk patrol
On one hand, it was a genuinely important step towards female rights.
On the ot...
That’s a, charitable summary of him tbh
He was definitely interesting
rose thorn
40K, old world, AOS, bloodbowl
dusk patrol
Based tbh, should have had a better name
rose thorn
Wait the god of punch tickets is my favorite
COGNUS, THE SAINT OF QUOTAS
Quotas are everything on Necromunda, meeting them often means the difference between life and death. As such, shrines to Cognus are displayed throughout the underhive and offerings left by those wishing to be spared the overseer's wrath.
rose thorn
“Dear Cognus, please I need a 5 minute lunch break”
opaque coyote
also explains a lot about the "lasso of truth"
Yeah it was Wonder Woman's weakness also
But it had some overly specific requirements.
She had to be bound by a man specifically.
That was removed though
rose thorn
His tenets are
dusk patrol
Wonder why
opaque coyote
I think there were some other minor requirements
rose thorn
Thine Labours Shalt Be Rewarded
Thou Shalt Fulfil Thine Quotas
Thine Diligence Shalt Lead to Great Blessings
dusk patrol
I think unironically she had a weakness to being spanked at some point
Because like
Why even bother to hide it?
queen laurel
I’m pretty sure
Well at least they don't do it anymore much
rocky gale
I think unironically she had a weakness to being spanked at some point
Pardon?
dusk patrol
He just made it his fetish
queen laurel
He just made it his fetish
I also know of another superhero that is straight up just a fetish I'm not even gonna hide it to you
rocky gale
Oh Wonder Woman
queen laurel
way worse than wonder woman
dusk patrol
Bondage man
opaque coyote
Homela-
queen laurel
Bondage man
No i am gonna save myself the sanity of recalling her name
opaque coyote
Eviless?
queen laurel
My God what the hell was the ******* writers cooking with that one
dusk patrol
All I know is Zatanna always did it for me
tall plinth
Dog welder
queen laurel
Dog welder
oh that one is something
opaque coyote
But Zatanna could get it
The mind wipe incident
dusk patrol
Unrealistic as hell, nothing could make me forget her
opaque coyote
I do like how the writer who had to inherit that shit show actually just
Went with it
Also gave some of the most brutal batman lines as a result
dusk patrol
She’s definitely best paired with Batman or Constantine
Also I love Batman’s solution to dealing with her
“Can’t do spells if you can’t talk, throat punch the bitch, lmao.”
rocky gale
Dog welder
Literally any character from Section Eight
Sorry any character by Garth Ennis
dusk patrol
That or slightly chilly weather so her outfit becomes uncomfortable
rocky gale
The fact Dog Welder isn't even the worst one in Section Eight is insane
queen laurel
“Can’t do spells if you can’t talk, throat punch the bitch, lmao.”
to be fair a lot of magical users be yapping
dusk patrol
Dr. Fate at least is smart enough to wear armor when he yaps
opaque coyote
to be fair a lot of magical users be yapping
azarath metrion zinthos
opaque coyote
Dr. Fate at least is smart enough to wear armor when he yaps
I love that one suicide squad animated film where they had Dr. Fate be a stripper
dusk patrol
That was pretty funny
opaque coyote
queen laurel
Oh you Brainless Meat Slug
how do you come up with these random things to post on this chat
dusk patrol
Tell it to mute
tough haven
“The dream speaks to me” mfs when I hit them with the gun that gives you afantasia
celest dome
Music bands ?
tall plinth
Yeah
queen laurel
Are there bands in the 40k universe
yes
tall plinth
I want a grim dark Beatles
queen laurel
any form of entertainment you can think of exist
tall plinth
Cool
opaque coyote
any form of entertainment you can think of exist
Yeah I thought about making like
The equivalent of a Gun review show but 40k
Like there is just a TV show somewhere in the Imperium
That's just a Sister in an Inquistor's retinue
Reviewing guns
Even Xenos ones, despite her disdain
The reason why is simple
She's bored
And of course she uses live targets in her reviews
rose thorn
One of my favorite card games was abandoned for 5 years and just got an update lmao
Like a huge update it’s pretty funny
green loom
Which one
opaque coyote
One of my favorite card games was abandoned for 5 years and just got an update l...
Gaming
opaque coyote
I remember a Board Game where a schizophrenic worked on it
I don't mean that as an insult
I mean she was
queen laurel
Plants vs zombies heroes
wait
opaque coyote
Literally schizophrenic
queen laurel
it did?
rose thorn
Yeah
opaque coyote
She posted shit about the Sun trying to kill her
queen laurel
damn
opaque coyote
Along with how the US Government was trying to sabotage her
Somehow
...
She still got the game out which is impressive
But the Kickstarter was essentially filled with paranoid ramblings after a while
It's honestly sad
But of course
Due to the Internet being the fucking Internet
There was a backer simply named
The Sun
That
Uh
Well I'll just show you
opaque coyote
Well I'll just show you
On one hand
This is essentially somebody feeding into a paranoid schizophrenic's delusions and making them even more agitated and paranoid
queen laurel
Laati
opaque coyote
This is bad
queen laurel
what are you going on about
opaque coyote
On the other hand this is very funny
queen laurel
this is more convoluted than a plan of tzeentch lord
opaque coyote
what are you going on about
Essentially back in 2011 there was a board game started by an artist called Kataylia
It looked interesting, and it actually got funded for 7k
The problem is that it quickly became alarming when the artist starting posting their schizophrenic delusions
About how the Sun was after them and baking their mind
And that the US government was trying to sabotage them
They somehow still managed to get a limited release out despite this
It was actually interesting apparently
A bit too overcomplicated though
opaque coyote
The sad part is that to this day they're still ranting about it.
Like in a video about it
The comment started off normal
Thanking the video maker and all that
Talking about the board game
And then it just devolves into how they used a spectrogram
And that THEY KNOW THAT THE SUN IS AFTER THEM
THAT IT'S TRYING TO CONTROL THEM
opaque coyote
Yeah
queen laurel
are you making all of this up
queen laurel
https://youtu.be/NC0Z-47O_eQ?si=d6AAWWYZOvYeRExO
you know what i am not gonna get into that
the fact that you know this explains all i need to know about you
how the **** do you know something like this
opaque coyote
I was subbed to the YouTuber
Saw the video
Researched about it because it sounded insane
Realized it was real
west badge
the black hole sun .midi is worth the click
opaque coyote
Felt bad for laughing at it
It didn't help that afterwards, the artist tried to actually make another game for free
As a printable
And she just got mocked at
opaque coyote
and the sun is still out there
It still is admirable that despite having the genuine belief that the US Navy
And the FUCKING SUN
Was trying to kill her
She still managed to finish it
dusk patrol
We have seen blanks minds able to be entered if their power is dampened
I’d assume it’s more a connection into their minds though by bionics
rose thorn
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/l9z3jr70/the-mysterious-ty-on...
Before I say what I’m about to, this is like feudal Japan styled right?
celest dome
Kinda
queen laurel
There's definitely some japanese influence
tough haven
How would an encounter/fight with a Aeldari ranger be different in a maintenance passageway vs a “upper class” street in the lower hive?
dusk patrol
Literally however you want, these things can be cramped or massive and expansive
Obviously one is much nicer but it’s up to you
tough haven
Well I mean like with there being less people in the upper class area
dusk patrol
Probably would be more, but it’s up to you.
There isn’t really rules for this stuff, it’s what you want it to be, I know we say that a lot but
It could be a cramped maintenance passage with a shitton of workers or completely abandoned with nothing
It could be a cramped street with lots of servants or whatever or it could be largely empty with only a few nobles and whatever.
storm jungle
Before I say what I’m about to, this is like feudal Japan styled right?
Yeah entirely
its a huge Ghost in the Shell thing with the cyborg geisha/kabuki
arctic talon
Before I say what I’m about to, this is like feudal Japan styled right?
its more so Japanese Theater styled lol but yes
queen laurel
**Dragon Isles of Terra**
Gw yet again with the creative naming
dusk patrol
You’ll go to Nippon to learn to be a Ninja rat and you’ll like it
storm jungle
Fucking JAPAAAAAN
dusk patrol
gray umbra
arasaka got the drip though
arctic talon
https://tenor.com/view/well-done-cyberpunk2077-good-job-thumbs-up-cyberpunk-gif-...
this gif is fucking hilarious lol
arctic talon
**Dragon Isles of Terra**
thats not that bad I'm gona be honest here
arctic talon
At least you can make an argument that the islands around Japan + Japan itself look vaguely like a dragon
gray umbra
queen laurel
At least you can make an argument that the islands around Japan + Japan itself l...
Yeah but why call it dragon isles
queen laurel
I mean it could have been worse but like this feels like just a lazy way to make it
queen laurel
idrc at this point
yeah it has happened so much that i just give up
queen laurel
just a bit too stereotypical yeah
queen laurel
Yeah as long as it looks cool
storm jungle
Yeah but why call it dragon isles
All jokes aside its because your average nerd has no idea what asia is aside from Dragons/Samurai
dusk patrol
Gun cults
storm jungle
Gun-tribes
queen laurel
America is literally called
and it has gun tribes
storm jungle
which is even funnier
queen laurel
yeah warhammer ain't holding back
tall plinth
Wait what’s the Arasaka logo again?
arctic talon
they got formed into the Merican Guncults for the imperial army
dusk patrol
Wait what’s the Arasaka logo again?
A man with three balls
arctic talon
but yeah they were called gun tribes before lol
gray umbra
dusk patrol
It’s a tree iirc
gray umbra
nihon empire isnt that racist
arctic talon
Wait what’s the Arasaka logo again?
gray umbra
its really not
arctic talon
they're just boring which isn't a sin
dusk patrol
Idk it’s like, one off examples which are stereotypes, it’s not that big a deal yeah
queen laurel
yeah just like lazy basically
queen laurel
warhammer fantasy was a lot more racist
Nippon ninja rats
arctic talon
Jaffar
storm jungle
naming samurai clans after cars lol
gray umbra
my favorite aztec name
storm jungle
also kamikaze samurai LOL
queen laurel
yeah
arctic talon
THE LEGENDARY SWORD OF TOYOTA
gray umbra
tiktaq'to
dusk patrol
Tiktaq’to is fucking great
arctic talon
tiktaq'to is fucking hilarious
queen laurel
Yeah thank goodness they are moving past that
arctic talon
despite being stupid
queen laurel
now warhammer it's just very stereotypical
******* cathay over here looking like ancient china plus
queen laurel
it's not the worst but like just a bit lazy
queen laurel
Cathay could have been way more racist smh
hey i did say stereotypical
rose thorn
Yeah entirely
oka ice
queen laurel
i know it could have been way worse
arctic talon
and dragons plastered everywhere
rose thorn
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/l9z3jr70/the-mysterious-ty-on...
this would be really cool proxy in a feudal japan style guard army
queen laurel
and dragons plastered everywhere
yes i do agree it could have been way worse
queen laurel
yeah it's at the end of the day harmful
arctic talon
I don't like cathay that much but I'm also clearly not the intended audiance for it
its not even harmful
imo
its just whatever
rose thorn
its just china mythos
storm jungle
JadeJadeJadeJadeJadeJade
arctic talon
this would be really cool proxy in a feudal japan style guard army
you've got a Cadian Castellan/Psyker right there
arctic talon
JadeJadeJadeJadeJadeJade
you forgot DRAGON
storm jungle
you forgot DRAGON
THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA
dusk patrol
My thing is it’s not exactly like the other factions are super high brow.
rose thorn
you've got a Cadian Castellan/Psyker right there
yeee
arctic talon
the great bastion doesn't have dead bodies in it(probably)
gray umbra
you take the bad feng shi out and keep the good feng shi in
rose thorn
the great bastion doesn't have dead bodies in it(probably)
does the irl wall have corpses in it?
arctic talon
yes
dusk patrol
Bretonnia is, Arthurian medieval stereotypes but French
arctic talon
thats not a joke
storm jungle
Bretonnia is, Arthurian medieval stereotypes but French
to be fair
nobody likes Bretonnia either
rose thorn
Ah
rose thorn
my dad told me that so i wasnt sure if he was being racist or not
arctic talon
the bodies of some of the builders were buried into it
dusk patrol
I love Bretonnia
storm jungle
Ew
gray umbra
you dont like massed peasant infantry
arctic talon
nah it totally is a thing lol
dusk patrol
The ridiculousness makes it
arctic talon
its just not as common
as some things depict it as
but they totally dumped corpses in it
queen laurel
the great bastion doesn't have dead bodies in it(probably)
well yeah because this guy teleported over the ******* wall and massacred everyone else
arctic talon
LOL
queen laurel
Seriously why is this guys position on the ******* great wall and he can just teleport in
storm jungle
because magic
arctic talon
My thing is it’s not exactly like the other factions are super high brow.
yeah this as well lol
rose thorn
things i like abotu bretonnia:
knights
knights on not horses
women
things i hate about bretonnia:
so rampently sexist that in the rpg there is a note saying 'you can just pretend bretonnia isnt sexist if you wanna be a female bretonnian'
queen laurel
things i like abotu bretonnia:
knights
knights on not horses
women
things i hat...
damn yeah bretonnia is
arctic talon
Bretonnia are ranked professional sexists
storm jungle
yeah this as well lol
Some do it better than others is the thing
queen laurel
Just sad as a faction
storm jungle
Bretonnia are ranked professional sexists
Also that is basically retconned isnt it
arctic talon
not a ton
queen laurel
like their entire existence is quite....ly being a meat shield for some elves
arctic talon
they're still sexist
storm jungle
i remember people getting mad at female knights
arctic talon
they're just less comically sexist now
dusk patrol
There’s was always some female knights
rose thorn
yeah
queen laurel
i remember people getting mad at female knights
nerds when female
dusk patrol
The Joan of Arc ripoff
arctic talon
There’s was always some female knights
yeah this as well
queen laurel
The Joan of Arc ripoff
Repanse
arctic talon
Anyways now you can have(almost) equal opression of the serfs as knights
rose thorn
i remember people getting mad at female knights
yeah it was so fucking bad they said mutliple times that its okay if you wana make a knight female
storm jungle
The RPG books literally said
dusk patrol
I know
rose thorn
The RPG books literally said
ye i was quoting that lmao
storm jungle
"this is a sexist society and females dont get higher roles"
dapper gyro
does the irl wall have corpses in it?
When they say "the wall was built on bodies of the slaves", they quite literally meant it.
rose thorn
o hmy bad
arctic talon
When they say "the wall was built on bodies of the slaves", they quite literally...
They weren't slaves(technically)
dusk patrol
I mean yeah, they’ve never been shown to be nice society
arctic talon
for a majority of the work force
storm jungle
ye i was quoting that lmao
I DO appreciate how its followed by "however you can ignore this as it is indeed kinda cringe, its your game"
dusk patrol
Peasants are hilariously repressed
arctic talon
Bretonnia being a shithole is fun
dusk patrol
Basically ever single peasant thing is a punchline
storm jungle
I love the peasant thing because it also makes no sense
dapper gyro
They weren't slaves(technically)
Whatever you definite slave...
storm jungle
you cant always win by just oppressing your underclass
look at what happened to france IRL
but it is funny so whatever
dusk patrol
Yes you can, you just need the Laydee
storm jungle
YEET
but yeah its one part of bretonnia lore i find stupid
its fine to oppress the underclass
its more that i dont like how its always solved by murdering them
queen laurel
you cant always win by just oppressing your underclass
Yes I can just
why do you think i do random executions every friday?
arctic talon
Whatever you definite slave...
The only slaves used were prisoners
storm jungle
thats not how it works
storm jungle
The only slaves used were prisoners
Thats what we call workers
arctic talon
I know shocking
storm jungle
rose thorn
i love how in aos most bretonnian references you see are in the death faction
queen laurel
Thats what we call workers
I prefer the term laborers
arctic talon
rose thorn
at GW when making FEC
not only that, theres a few cannon bretonnian night haunt
storm jungle
i love how in aos most bretonnian references you see are in the death faction
Yeah the medieval aesthetic of the Death faction is great
rose thorn
(like 2?)
arctic talon
neat
gray umbra
arctic talon
Idk I think people vastily overestimate how much slavery was in ancient china
but like
living as a pesant was still
rose thorn
and i think an ossiarch bone reaper guy quoted something bretonnian
arctic talon
depends on your definition of slavery at the end of the day but I don't think I'd call medival pesantry slaves
dapper gyro
It it is still forced labour
rose thorn
Idk I think people vastily overestimate how much slavery was in ancient china
what was the thing that people keep calling slaves in chinese culture?
arctic talon
what black slaves?
rose thorn
its called something specific
dapper gyro
If you don't do what they want, you don't get food, land or anything
And by my definition, it is slavery.
rose thorn
what black slaves?
the slavery equivelant (?)
tough haven
It could be a cramped street with lots of servants or whatever or it could be la...
My question is, would those extra bystanders really make a difference in the encounter?
arctic talon
It it is still forced labour
yeah, but being a pesant fucking sucked.
dusk patrol
If you don't do what they want, you don't get food, land or anything
It’s kinda removing the context of the time
dusk patrol
It’s not good but you need to look at what led up to that
arctic talon
but they weren't slaves
dusk patrol
It was a good deal for a lot of those people at the time
dapper gyro
The thing is that there are places during that time that people can properly live as peasants
tough haven
My question is, would those extra bystanders really make a difference in the enc...
Like would they be like “Xenos! Beat it to death!” Or just like go about their days/run away
dapper gyro
And forced slavery doesn't happen everywhere
dusk patrol
My question is, would those extra bystanders really make a difference in the enc...
Up to you again. Maybe there’s house guards, enforcers, repair gangs, hive gangs, whatever
rose thorn
slavery is specifically when you can be bought, sold, and are legally and socially considered property. Serfdom isnt really considered slavery
dapper gyro
Hence even back then, there were people migrating all over the place
rose thorn
@arctic talon oh sorry i just raelized i was thinking of something different lol
dusk patrol
And often you could do there in medieval Europe, it depended
arctic talon
<@255478624851853312> oh sorry i just raelized i was thinking of something diffe...
are you thinking about Eunechs?
yeah they weren't slaves
they just had their balls cut off lol
dusk patrol
This is a very long period of time with a lot of different countries and laws over that
storm jungle
they just had their balls cut off lol
Relatable.
rose thorn
ye
dusk patrol
The main issue was ultimately you were beholden to your lord or ruler.
queen laurel
they just had their balls cut off lol
Jesus
arctic talon
the world for slaves in Chinese sounds like hard work
which is 100% intentional
lol
queen laurel
eunuchs were cunts
i'm Christian
dapper gyro
I'm from SEA/EA..
queen laurel
and i'm already going to hell
dusk patrol
It sucked by our standards but for a lot of people it was a pretty good deal during peacetime, it’s still fucked but it did lead to better stuff eventually.
You can’t divorce history from its context.