thats Sigmar Heldenhammer to you
#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
rocky gale
Isn't it getting refreshed though?
Like there's already new Tribesmen
Helm and his children I think
But mainly his children
winter vessel
I so wanted a film adaptation about Beren and Luthien.
rocky gale
We need a 1st age movie
Fingolfin fighting Morgoth
Pure Elven Demon time
and Faenor and Finwe and Finarfin
I want people to be as confused as possible by all the F Elves
You thought Targaryen names were confusing
Finwe, Finrod, Finarfin, Fingolfin, Fin Fin Fin Fin Fin
arctic talon
I can’t wait for finfin
tough haven
anyone got any good ideas for fun and varied prisoners to have in this prison?
Bonus points if their entertaining when released
lunar harness
I so wanted a film adaptation about Beren and Luthien.
this would be so good
Beren and Luthien is my favorite tolkien story
sour hornet
bruh dukane is such a wanker, I get we're not soldiers but you got mogged day one by dregs and required us to save your whole regiment
pipe down a little
storm jungle
Average commanding-officer not be a dickhead challenge: impossible
You should also read her letters to the governor they are hilarious
opaque coyote
Average commanding-officer not be a dickhead challenge: impossible
Tbf that is part of their job
...
Dukane still needs to chill though jesus christ
storm jungle
she starts off super sure of herself/steelheads saying the Moebian 6th are losers for even falling to chaos in the first place and are gonna get smoked, then her very next letter is "ok i might have misspoken we are getting SHOT"
storm jungle
Tbf that is part of their job
...
Dukane still needs to chill though jesus chr...
Shes chill than most commissars
Her threats/dicky attitude is more spread out
opaque coyote
Her threats/dicky attitude is more spread out
I like Dukane
Not as an individual
I would rather have her servitorized
but more for working in the story
It's a good way of showing what the average Guardsman has to deal with lmao
storm jungle
I like Dukane
Shes very based
opaque coyote
she starts off super sure of herself/steelheads saying the Moebian 6th are loser...
Tbf a lot of Chaos Cults are usually unorganized bitches.
While the Moebian 6th are primarily veterans that got sick of their mistreatment
storm jungle
Tbf a lot of Chaos Cults are usually unorganized bitches.
While the Moebian 6th...
Im talking about the Moebians yeah, that was her only point of interest
opaque coyote
They turned to Nurgle because ironically enough they're sick of dying
and not even having their families know how they died
storm jungle
she doenst mention anything about the cult
the traitor guard was her only focus since its a "stain" on the militarum's name on her eyes
opaque coyote
Only to get mogged by both
Imagine being Dukane a seeing a bunch of
what's essentially
death row inmates
clear out thousands of cultists and 6th
Like I would just fucking shoot myself ngl
Commit sudoku out of shame
gray umbra
shes probably proud that a bunch of morons(us) can turn around and do so much damage
but cant show it because shes a commissar
opaque coyote
but cant show it because shes a commissar
Commissars are literally required to be dicks
And on some level, I feel bad for them
But also it's the Imperium
gray umbra
not always but i know what you mean
opaque coyote
and they're shooting people in the heads
opaque coyote
not always but i know what you mean
Yeah IK they're morale officers
But let's be fair here
They probably do more punishment than morale boosting
gray umbra
yeah they have to be able to project authority
opaque coyote
Because the Imperium itself is a death cult
gray umbra
b-b-but we're the good guys xd
celest dome
Commissars are literally required to be dicks
And on some level, I feel bad for...
Well those ones don't tend to live long
Ork Snipers are really good at picking them out
opaque coyote
Like even though 40k's humans are for lack of a better term
gray umbra
weird how those ork snipers are always coming from the advancing imperial side
opaque coyote
"mentally deranged" by our standards
It'd still fuck someone up to shoot like
a 17 year old who refuses to go out of the trench because he's scared of death
There are only three options
- Threaten him and get him out of there.
- Shoot him
- Somehow inspire him
3 only works if your name is "Cain"
or "Yarrick"
so you pretty much only have 1 and 2
either way, you've basically sent somebody to their death
I bet suicide rates are high for commissars tbh
like
for every 1 ork sniper
there's 4 who just shoot themselves because they can't take it anymore
opaque coyote
weird how those ork snipers are always coming from the advancing imperial side
weird how they also use lasguns as well...
tough haven
anyone got any good ideas for fun and varied prisoners to have in this prison?
I only thought of a khorne cultist that will wildly attack the guards if you let him out while shouting blood for the blood god, triggering a corruption check
humble shoal
weird how they also use lasguns as well...
Except fpr the ones that killed those space marines
dapper gyro
death row inmates
You forget one big element that transcended above everything. Darktide is co-writed by Matt Ward.
If you know about him, you will know that whoever is his main character will have the blessing that even the Big E can't comprehend.
shadow plover
Ludonarrative dissonance is also a thing
opaque coyote
I only thought of a khorne cultist that will wildly attack the guards if you let...
you try to interrogate one prisoner and there's a check for whether they somehow successfully kill themselves before they arrive to their cell
due to the fact that interrogations in the imperium
aren't pleasant
storm jungle
Ludonarrative dissonance is also a thing
This is the main answer
Ward has nothing to do with it lol
this is a 40k videogame
hallow basin
If you know about him, you will know that whoever is his main character will hav...
it's a little dubious to call out Matt Ward on this when it's like that across the board. Whoever's the story about, will most likely win
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^
Ward is also still one of the best writers Warhammer has
hes half the reason Vermintide's characters are so supreme
and at the end of the day we are also trained individuals (minus mostly the zealots) its not that hard to believe we kill so many fodder enemies among other shit
opaque coyote
Ward is also still one of the best writers Warhammer has
He is a lottery between peak and dogshit
No inbetween
storm jungle
He is a lottery between peak and dogshit
No inbetween
Hes very much peak
his "dogshit" stuff is literally like that one Marine codex which GW threw him under the bus for
opaque coyote
Yeah I remember he wrote good shit for battlefleet gothic
dapper gyro
By the Big E, people don't understand sarcasm.
humble shoal
You forget one big element that transcended above everything. Darktide is co-wri...
His wardian power armor
storm jungle
Yeah I remember he wrote good shit for battlefleet gothic
His stuff in general is very good
hes also behind the entire Newcron rewrite which is peakest of peaks
tough haven
you try to interrogate one prisoner and there's a check for whether they somehow...
Oh no, the party is the ones getting interrogated atm, the other prisoners are just there to make sense
tough haven
hes also behind the entire Newcron rewrite which is peakest of peaks
True
opaque coyote
Oh no, the party is the ones getting interrogated atm, the other prisoners are j...
ah
have one try to deal drugs to them
arctic talon
His stuff in general is very good
grey knights
I will not let him pass for that one
Smh my head
storm jungle
> grey knights
In general.
lmao
also considering how close that was to the UM release GW was probably also behind it tbh
because uh Space Marines™️
dapper gyro
Grey knight bathing in SoB blood, who wrote that bs?
opaque coyote
maybe you can have them buy painkillers which will help them resist the
torture
@tough haven
storm jungle
Grey knight bathing in SoB blood, who wrote that bs?
It was done to show the GK are awful people
Ward admitted later it was a bad idea
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I didnt care much about it but seeing people get mad about it was funny
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opaque coyote
me when I get beaten by my dad for eating his painkillers but i can't feel it because i ate his painkillers
tough haven
It’s a privately run jail where enemies of rich people get sent to be tortured to death/for information
Or influential people
dapper gyro
I don't care about it that much, it is just too grimderp to the point of being funny to me.
storm jungle
Yeah that lol
dapper gyro
its more "it doesnt make sense"
I don't see the difference
storm jungle
I don't see the difference
Grimderp is usually also applied to stuff these days people just cannot accept the Imperium does because it and its ranks are made of awful people
lol
arctic talon
Baby incinerator
Baby incinerator
Baby incinerator
arctic talon
Fits perfectly imo
storm jungle
anyway on the GK blood thing it isnt even grim, its just dumb
arctic talon
The imperium hates mutants
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Also that yeah
storm jungle
the Imperial Guard is also basically the Imperial Army of Japan unless we need a book protag about their exploits lol
including the atrocities
opaque coyote
Why not toss the mutant babies in
y'know the worst part is that something similar has been noted
several times
uh apparently SS liked using babies as target practice
...
opaque coyote
yeah
tough haven
Baby incinerator
Baby incinerator
Baby incinerator
Me when I have too many babies, and the fire is right there
storm jungle
Unit 731 Moment
tough haven
And it whispers to me
opaque coyote
so grimderp kinda doesn't exist in 40k
storm jungle
yeah pretty much
arctic talon
Unit 731 coming up with the wonderful scientific result of
getting frostbite happens when its cold
and if you boil someones frostbitten hand their flesh sloughs off
storm jungle
dont forget snapping said frozen-solid arms later
tough haven
The most heinous atrocities are the ones we don’t know of
storm jungle
or "de-gloving" people
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The most heinous atrocities are the ones we don’t know of
CIA Moment
opaque coyote
smh this is such bad writing
opaque coyote
we should just have a better written universe
storm jungle
Also was re-reading Warhammer Crime today
tough haven
CIA Moment
Me when I have to perform human atrocities on my own people because I’m bored
tough haven
Also was re-reading Warhammer Crime today
Peak
storm jungle
this was legit just unsettling to me because some folks of mine fell for shit like this lol
opaque coyote
getting frostbite happens when its cold
tbf they have actually done a few scientific results that weren't... obvious
the problem is that uh
y'know... we really didn't need to find out that way
or
have it exist
actually we didn't need to find it out regardless
sour hornet
I don't care about it that much, it is just too grimderp to the point of being f...
People saying this when the Imperium builds elevators to dump families into volcanoes more efficiently is so funny to me.
opaque coyote
dapper gyro
I don't see these things as "doesn't make sense" or grimdark/derp whatever since I'm really interested in history and wars.
dapper gyro
And I do think it is funny and I love to make fun of people taking it seriously
sour hornet
its still satire
i don't think it's satire anymore
storm jungle
I don't see these things as "doesn't make sense" or grimdark/derp whatever since...
I mean it doesnt make sense. It literally got changed the very next edition because it didnt make sense.
opaque coyote
I don't see these things as "doesn't make sense" or grimdark/derp whatever since...
i mean tbf there even is a limit to 40k
in terms of sheer stupidity
arctic talon
i don't think it's satire anymore
It def still is
storm jungle
i don't think it's satire anymore
It very much is
sour hornet
too many bolterporn novels written unironically
storm jungle
it still makes fun of status-quo
tough haven
Baggit and clodde reference?
arctic talon
too many bolterporn novels written unironically
That is literally how 40k has always been
lol
storm jungle
last year we literally had one novel making fun of vaccine-hoxers lol
storm jungle
Nah was in a novel too
storm jungle
i need to find it but uh
it was an imperial denying med-stimms
saying it was "corrupted"
and that its "lies"
LMAO
dapper gyro
I mean it doesnt make sense. It literally got changed the very next edition *bec...
Im not talking about that one thing with the GK
tough haven
People saying this when the Imperium builds elevators to dump families into volc...
It was very efficient, raised the effectiveness of the forge by 0.3%
storm jungle
Im not talking about that one thing with the GK
I was since its kinda what started this discussion atm
sour hornet
That is literally how 40k has always been
back in the day you had marines shaking civvies down for cash, now you have SM2 good guys romp written like an A-Team movie
arctic talon
back in the day you had marines shaking civvies down for cash, now you have SM2 ...
Thats literally Rogue Trader
💀
Rogue Trader isn't relevant to modern 40k
opaque coyote
it was an imperial denying med-stimms
Y'know the worst part is that the Imperial actually has a reason to doubt somewhat
arctic talon
hell
its not even relevant to 2e 40k
Rogue trader should just be tossed out the window
opaque coyote
Mainly because medstimms can actually be corrupted
Improper storage, Chaos
Daemons
arctic talon
in terms of consideration to 40k's modern tone and writing
opaque coyote
etc.
arctic talon
SM2 has issues with its tone but w/e
opaque coyote
Meanwhile Vaccines don't have the chance of daemons possessing it
arctic talon
its literally bolter porn the game
opaque coyote
but people still think it's poison
arctic talon
its the same as any other bolterporn book
opaque coyote
mfw irl is more stupid than the Imperium
tough haven
its literally bolter porn the game
What about bolt gun? Isn’t boltgun that?
sour hornet
Thats literally Rogue Trader
Yeah but to say it's always been like that is a little off. 40k has gotten more apologetic to the Imperium as a whole.
arctic talon
I see no issue with it the same way I have no issue with space marine 1
arctic talon
Yeah but to say it's always been like that is a little off. 40k has gotten more ...
It literally hasn't
if anything 40k has gotten harsher towards the Imperium in Codexes
opaque coyote
What about bolt gun? Isn’t boltgun that?
it isn't bolter porn
it's a bolter epic
arctic talon
What about bolt gun? Isn’t boltgun that?
boltgun doesn't even have a proper story or characters
its got an angry sternguard screaming one liners
and shooting daemons and chaos space marines
dusk patrol
He points too
tough haven
boltgun doesn't even have a proper story or characters
The characters are the trusty boltgun and the voices telling me to kill more and faster
arctic talon
CHAOS FILTH
opaque coyote
He points too
CHAOS FILTH
arctic talon
Jinx
tough haven
**CHAOS FILTH**
CHAOS FILTH
arctic talon
Like if you think GW has gotten softer on depictions for the Imperium that imo is blatently false
opaque coyote
https://tenor.com/view/sunoogles-haechan-gif-7233449910030389107
i did not see that part of the gif wtf
arctic talon
they literally made it so that there's a company of salamanders who specialize in murdering non compliant civilians in 8e lol
storm jungle
Yeah its only softer on the "surface" marketing stuff because we gotta sell kids toys lol
arctic talon
^
opaque coyote
get out of here kpop stans
dapper gyro
In terms of satire, even the Primaris Marine integration is a funny thing for me. It is very real in real life, too.
storm jungle
and that yes LMAO
sour hornet
Like if you think GW has gotten softer on depictions for the Imperium that imo i...
I mean, it definitely has. The Imperium getting Guilliman (aka, as close to a rational figure as possible) as Lord Regent speaks more to the Imperium as a whole.
It's literally good PR for marketing.
opaque coyote
that kids love violence
real
arctic talon
Guilliman is still a massive piece of shit
storm jungle
I mean, it definitely has. The Imperium getting Guilliman (aka, as close to a r...
Its still awful tho
arctic talon
wtf ????
opaque coyote
also SM2 literally had Titus being tortured
arctic talon
he is not rational by IRL standards
opaque coyote
for years
storm jungle
Guilliman's joke is hes getting nothing done
opaque coyote
for literally no reason
arctic talon
thats literally brought up in universe
storm jungle
and trying to and usually failing because hes surrounded by the british parliment
I MEAN
imperials
static beacon
what is the appeal of the chaos gods?
arctic talon
on many worlds
arctic talon
what is the appeal of the chaos gods?
Freedom from the Imperium, power
opaque coyote
Guilliman hasn't improved shit
Part of his conflict is that he's trying desperately to do ANYTHING
But the Imperium pushes back on his own reforms
sour hornet
he is not rational by IRL standards
Nobody that matters is though. He's still a pretty good PR figure to the point that he's cordial with Xenos. (Memes notwithstanding.)
arctic talon
he isn't that cordial with Xenos
opaque coyote
To the point where he got assassins sent after him by the Highlords
arctic talon
he literally says to Yvraines face he's going to kill the Ynnari once the temporary alliance is over
and she just shrugs her fucking arms
storm jungle
^^^^^^^^^^^^
sour hornet
Literally the most level headed figure you could have gotten to represent the Imperium to a potential fan.
arctic talon
because she would literally do the same back
if the Imperium stopped being useful as a stopgap
lol
storm jungle
Gman is a lot more deep than just "being a good guy"
opaque coyote
he literally says to Yvraines face he's going to kill the Ynnari once the tempor...
||it's actually a code for the hotel they'll being staying i-||
arctic talon
Guilliman is a pretty horrid person
storm jungle
and also said the Imperium would be better off if Horus destroyed it instead of seeing what it is now
storm jungle
^
opaque coyote
he literally wanted to kill himself lol
To be fair
Anybody would once they realize that they have to manage THE IMPERIUM
storm jungle
Hes a big caucasian man with blonde hair and blue eyes too so a pretty good Hero Figure lol
arctic talon
just ignore the how many worlds he burned
dapper gyro
Man, this chat is very "there is only war"...
arctic talon
to bring into compliance
there's a reason
he had the second highest compliance rate
in the Great Crusade
sour hornet
he just looks less awful then the average imperial
Oh, I know. But GW doesn't really do anything to challenge that perception in any of the primary media you're going to be exposed to 40k.
You think the new 40k short is going to show Titus executing partisans?
opaque coyote
he's still a genocidal maniac
tbf that goes for
nearly every single Imperial
storm jungle
Man, this chat is very "there is only war"...
FOR CREEEEEED
arctic talon
fun fact if there's no one left to resist the planet is in fact compliant
arctic talon
Oh, I know. But GW doesn't really do anything to challenge that perception in an...
Unironically I hope so
also Codexes
and rulebooks should be the primary media
imo
that people get more lore from
sour hornet
They aren't 
arctic talon
well
sour hornet
Its SM2, Darktide, Rogue Trader (kino)
opaque coyote
SM2 has like 0 fucking lore in it
tbf same with SM1
storm jungle
SM1 kinda does it better tho
tough haven
he had the second highest compliance rate
storm jungle
i love the factory servitor saying "the invasion doesnt mean you dont have a job to do, get back to work"
opaque coyote
it made me do the funny soyjack face though
They did very good with detailing how the Imperium looks
storm jungle
dude
opaque coyote
and background
tough haven
SM1 literally is better story wise
Infinitely better cause orks improve anything
opaque coyote
i love the factory servitor saying "the invasion doesnt mean you dont have a job...
OH YEAH I LOVE THAT DETAIL
storm jungle
the amount of my friends that "pog"d when Imurah showed up was phenomenal
storm jungle
I don't get how Titus got made even blander
no Mark Strong
his VA legit sucks balls
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
of SM2's campaign
storm jungle
he has SO MUCH swag its insane
arctic talon
then like Gadriel and Chiron
unironically Titus is the weakest
character by far
for the main lineup
storm jungle
I had a friend also say this made him more of a Tsons fan than a loyalist one 
sour hornet
Titus getting mogged by a sorcerer with a fringe
arctic talon
I wish Titus wasn't always correct tactically
opaque coyote
I had a friend also say this made him more of a Tsons fan than a loyalist one <:...
tbf the Tsons have drip
sour hornet
not on my 2024 bingo
storm jungle
tbf the Tsons have drip
sour hornet
Tsons are so drippy
arctic talon
and I fucking hate
storm jungle
Also Galadriel is stupid
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I MEAN GADRIEL
sour hornet
No take backs
dapper gyro
Titus is arrogant as hell
sour hornet
I saw it
arctic talon
bro is weirdly hot
tough haven
Tsons are so drippy
Literally
arctic talon
not that I'm complaining
sour hornet
Gadriel does have the chaddest fucking face
arctic talon
but I wish we had an ugly dude in like
the lineup of the co-op marines
but its w/e
tough haven
Also Galadriel is stupid
But accurate though
dapper gyro
Also Galadriel is stupid
Oh no, confused with an Eldar. My boy might get friendly fire
sour hornet
He mogs the whole squad
tough haven
but I wish we had an ugly dude in like
They give you plastic surgery when you become a marine
arctic talon
so whatever
storm jungle
Oh no, confused with an Eldar. My boy might get friendly fire
Galadriel is great so no complaints there
storm jungle
I love ugly marines
I loved that one tweet that one 40k GW artist made saying marines should always be some form of ugly cyborg monster
and some people were like "nuh uh i want handsome marines you are wrong"
arctic talon
ngl it swings too far in the other direction
storm jungle
guy is literally in GW employ
arctic talon
I like a mix of both
sour hornet
iirc someone put gadriel into one of those chad face filters and he didn't change at all
arctic talon
I like my abominations, pretty boys
storm jungle
yeah but people being upset by it was funny
sour hornet
he's mathematically peak
arctic talon
Its someones personal opinion
storm jungle
bionics superiority
arctic talon
on asthetics
sour hornet
and some people were like "nuh uh i want handsome marines you are wrong"
I want handsome marines tbf
arctic talon
this still mogs the new guard codex cover
Fucking HORDE of Guardsmen
overrunning orks
storm jungle
I want handsome marines tbf
How about I shove my fist up your as-
sour hornet
i almost made blood angels my legion at first
arctic talon
dapper gyro
and some people were like "nuh uh i want handsome marines you are wrong"
Emperor Children worshippers
arctic talon
There's only like
storm jungle
this still mogs the new guard codex cover
I LOVE Lewis Jones making every single Imperial in his artwork a fucking FREAK
sour hornet
Emperor Children worshippers
those are my csm legion so it fits 
arctic talon
the other ork is literally getting torn apart
by the guardsmen
like his fucking arm went flying LOL
sour hornet
this still mogs the new guard codex cover
suddendly makes sense why eldar regard humans as akin to shit-covered chihuahuas
arctic talon
I do find it funny
Lewis had to do like
a much more sanitized version of his art style initally
and then GW just went fuck it go wild
during the SoB codex
giving imo the best art of repentia ever
sour hornet
I like my sororitas fugly tbh
storm jungle
Yeah because he can draw normal people which is funnier
sour hornet
Peak
sour hornet
bro the skelleys
dapper gyro
those are my csm legion so it fits <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Ah, so as Dilara suggested... No, you might already have a fist up your..
Auric Storm Survivor
sour hornet
stfu
arctic talon
also the new one he did for 10e
my favorite part of this piece is that it isn't even a battle field
sour hornet
fulgrim did nothing wrong
sour hornet
most restrained sororitas picture
paper haven
Ugly warrior women?
No such thing.
dapper gyro
If I see a SoB in real life, I will just run the fk off
paper haven
Beauty comes from within
dapper gyro
I have enough of infantry women in the normal army already.
rose thorn
also the new one he did for 10e
I always imagine the skeletons are controlling the flamers lmao
arctic talon
lol
sour hornet
same lol
storm jungle
If I see a SoB in real life, I will just run the fk off
Thats my general reaction when I also see women
and im also a woman, so
sour hornet
relatable
storm jungle
crystal forum
Thats my general reaction when I also see women
run away, that person looks mentally stable!!!!
storm jungle
tough haven
not enough evil Tau art
Fr fr
tough haven
and im also a woman, so
Oh I thought those were just like a 40K thing, life really does imitate art
dusk patrol
Dilara is scared of mirrors for this reason
storm jungle
Its true.....
Me waking up every day knowing I like warhammer
Imposter syndrome because im a female
crystal forum
me having to shave off the hitler moustache every day because of my warhammer hormones
tough haven
The black Templar curse
rose thorn
Every hour I spend consuming warhammer content I have to spend 3 hours scrolling trans Reddit to make sure the wokehammer virus doesn’t spread to me 
What do alt right warhammer players call them selves again?
It was something stupid like real-hammer or what ever
Wait shit I could have made a balancing joke
tough haven
storm jungle
What do alt right warhammer players call them selves again?
My politics are bad uhhh
were "alt-right" the chud people
tough haven
were "alt-right" the chud people
Yeah
rose thorn
were "alt-right" the chud people
Yeah
storm jungle
In that case "wokehammer" iirc
rose thorn
My bad I forgot that’s an American term
storm jungle
Lmfao
storm jungle
This could literally be a loading screen quote on DT
tough haven
This could literally be a loading screen quote on DT
“Cheese is divine, the alien is not”
arctic talon
so sad arcane didn't have a literal 40k chainsword tbh
rose thorn
RHETES A LEAGUE OF LEGENDS FIGHTING GAME?!
arctic talon
Yeah
tough haven
Would be peak
rose thorn
HAHAHSHAHAH
storm jungle
I made it for a friend of mine who was a krieg fan that had to deal with this shit
arctic talon
ngl there's a single thing I dislike about the new way they paint the Krieg masks
and its the colored lens
I liked the uncolored ones from before
because they're creepier
rose thorn
What’s more delusional, racist warhammer players or the flesh eater courts
storm jungle
LOL
arctic talon
why not both
arctic talon
what was that one PoV one
of the FEC who broke out of the delusion and then she went insane
from the truth
storm jungle
arctic talon
LOL
rose thorn
LMAO
storm jungle
Yeah i went to visit HorusGalaxy again out of boredom
its just them being mad at trans people or posting awful minis
rose thorn
This reminds me of that one onion video
storm jungle
the usual lol
rose thorn
its just them being mad at trans people or posting awful minis
Awful as in poorly painted or like actual trash
arctic talon
The Onion execution method video
feels like a 40k execution method
the thing that tears your head off
rose thorn
Fr
storm jungle
Awful as in poorly painted or like actual trash
A mix of both, honestly the sub is pretty boring
rose thorn
THE GAYS
storm jungle
holy shit 16 years ago?
rose thorn
yeah and its stell relevant
storm jungle
Damn no kidding
rose thorn
true comedy never dies
storm jungle
Im looking at the comments too and its about as you'd expect
"people get offended at anything now"
he says, being offended himself
rose thorn
you can see in when the comments were from every time a controversy about lbgtq people in the military happened
rose thorn
the 3 years ago thing
trying to remmeber that
i think it was when a lesbian lady was kicked out the military i cant remember
or was that 5 years ago?
rose thorn
yeah
do you htink the imperium has solar system based biases
'heard john is from the Ivaac system, i heard they loveee grox meat'
storm jungle
Yeah absolutely
Planetary cultures is also a thing
Cadians looking down on non-cadians for not being "pureblooded" among other aristocratic military shit. It extends to planetary ideas too but as usual "it depends".
Some dont give a shit, some will just say you are an "outsider" etc
rose thorn
Cadians looking down on non-cadians for not being "pureblooded" among other aris...
i thought that was just a military thing lmao
rose thorn
ohh
storm jungle
Yeah the cadian books post-fall make a big deal of it
Cadian officers go "BUT THEY ARENT CADIAN, THEY ARE SCUM"
im like daddy CHILL
✋
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much.
But obvs this isnt explored too much because its too close to real life lol
its kinda the same with the Imperium still having sexism to varying degrees.
rose thorn
unlike my Mpreg space marine story
storm jungle
NOOOOOOOOOO
rose thorn
storm jungle
rose thorn
YES THE PARASITE OF MORTREX
storm jungle
rose thorn
also the innerwyrm gsc
storm jungle
lmfao SHUT UP
rose thorn
EHEHEHHEHEH
crystal forum
hot genestealers in your area
rose thorn
who was that BL writer that put his fetishes into his books
arctic talon
Cadians looking down on non-cadians for not being "pureblooded" among other aris...
The 12 new cadia’s in question
rose thorn
also how do people come up with new guard regiments anyhow, it feels like every idea has already been done
storm jungle
who was that BL writer that put his fetishes into his books
Ian Watson, every 40k fan should read his books at least once.
storm jungle
also how do people come up with new guard regiments anyhow, it feels like every ...
Alos yeah what Elite said they largely dont, also being creative is hard 💀
arctic talon
Originality is(arguably) dead
In anything
It’s near impossible to do anything completely original
crystal forum
also how do people come up with new guard regiments anyhow, it feels like every ...
there's so many things that havent been done
rose thorn
1973?!
rose thorn
Ian Watson, every 40k fan should read his books at least once.
What did he write again?
storm jungle
What did he write again?
He basically started 40k literature as a thing
Also Important 
crystal forum
Yeah like what
my custom regiment
green loom
In that case "wokehammer" iirc
They say Chudhammer actually
Wokehammer is the evil enemy that doesn't actually exist save for like, Inkary naming themselves that
crystal forum
something about them being from an armoury world which used to be a super rich world that has lost complete rule of law and is now a bunch of roaming techo archeologists who vie for control over the endless vaults of lost tech still left on the world. the giant golden buildings degraded to the point where everything is coated in a fine film of golden dust
armoury worlds arent used much
storm jungle
well yeah its a Vraks invention
I remember you picking it due to that reason like a year ago
storm jungle
Its a mix of old + battle-ready
crystal forum
like a fortress world but less active
storm jungle
since Vraks was a supply-world for any nearby planets bordering the Eye
crystal forum
Its a mix of old + battle-ready
it explains why they had a bunch of malcadors and autoguns
storm jungle
it explains why they had a bunch of malcadors and autoguns
they had a contract with Forgeworld
I MEAN
yes exactly
crystal forum
storm jungle
4th wall joke my bad
but also yeah its funny how outside of either that or 30k these vehicles are just largely non-existant which is a shame
arctic talon
but also yeah its funny how outside of either that or 30k these vehicles are jus...
The stuff from vraks doesn’t even exist in heresy either
Lore wise
Shit pretty much never comes up
storm jungle
Also isnt there a plothole atm where like
the Macharius tanks in 30k arent named Macharius
because Mach wasnt born yet
LOL
arctic talon
Oh also the Macharius tank is 99% likely to be the Lupercal Heavy tank
Similar dimensions
Size
storm jungle
Yeah that'd be a good fix
arctic talon
Gun
storm jungle
because i remembe rwhen it came out in 30k and people were like "Hold on-"
arctic talon
That seems to be what GW is implying
storm jungle
Yeah but hasnt said yet
arctic talon
Since they say it isn’t actually called the macharius
storm jungle
because GW
rose thorn
They say Chudhammer actually
thank you
rose thorn
gonna be real this blows lmao
arts good
ts just
i dont understand what the hellis going on in the comic lmao
spare osprey
also how do people come up with new guard regiments anyhow, it feels like every ...
just do it anyways tbh
i got a fremen style traitor regiment
tough haven
warm notch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/681851579959214130/1310779544101191770/RD...
that is unironically really fucking cool
tough haven
fr
paper haven
If I ever run an Ork army, all of the vehicles are going to be remade models from other things
lunar harness
so sad arcane didn't have a literal 40k chainsword tbh
it did... https://youtu.be/RN-RqU9Y9p8?t=26
tight stratus
Me that's just found out what Genestealer Patriarches used to look like, and in fact the Genester Broodlord has always looked kinda cool thorughout the years, unlike the grotesque old version of the Patriarch if not a bit more on brand
I do prefer how cool the Patriarch looks now though
storm jungle
Yeah hes a lot less fat now
tight stratus
So full of character, I love it
no idea who these guys are but love the flow and how they seem to float off the ground
storm jungle
They are gangers of House Delaque
tight stratus
I also read that there are some genestealers that are so far morphed and modified / far gone that Tyranids will refuse to contact them or answer their calls
For the leech tyranids they refuse to absorb them in fear of what it'll do to the Tyranid genetic code, and for the Malstrain Tyranids are considered an abomination to Tyranids to want to have either.
Something in my brain says its really funny that Tyranids are fussy with what they absorb like that
storm jungle
basically imagine the TF2 spy but an entire House lol
well that and aquatic aliens/snakes
tight stratus
basically imagine the TF2 spy but an entire House lol
Nicee!
storm jungle
I also read that there are some genestealers that are so far morphed and modifie...
Also yeah thats the Malstrains (Mal as in Malformed)
they are living in the remnants of Hive Secundus which got nuked generations ago
the general reason for their genetic stuff being "ew"d by any hivefleet is largely due to the amount of radiation/mutation in their system
queen laurel
I also read that there are some genestealers that are so far morphed and modifie...
yeah the exposure to radiation in necromunda has caused them to evolve and mutate
storm jungle
Mmmm fleshsoup
queen laurel
Mmmm fleshsoup
you taste very good if you add boiled heads
tight stratus
I feel like we could use these to destroy the tyranids somehow. Posion the supply by making them take in these if we somehow altered them to seem palletable to the tyranids when they really arn't
queen laurel
yes i like ogres how can you tell
queen laurel
I feel like we could use these to destroy the tyranids somehow. Posion the suppl...
uh no
storm jungle
I feel like we could use these to destroy the tyranids somehow. Posion the suppl...
Theres way too many Hivefleets for it to work effectively
Necromunda is a specific/niche case
the Hivemind is also too smart
queen laurel
they will also just adapt
storm jungle
also that yeah
queen laurel
OK now you just made them more adaptive to radiation
storm jungle
Imperials attempted to use virus-weaponry on them once and it backfired terribly
queen laurel
yeah the best way to defeat the tyranids is to destroy their flesh on a molecular level
that way they can't recycle their dead
tight stratus
What was the result of them using virus weaponary on them?
storm jungle
They adapted.
queen laurel
What was the result of them using virus weaponary on them?
they adapted to it
they basically became immune to it
tight stratus
Ah, wasn't sure if there was a specific new 'Nid that came out of it rather than just stronger 'Nids in general
green loom
In SM2 they adapt against the virus you shoot at them in like an afternoon
storm jungle
Actually
did the virus you launch at the prologue mission literally add to anything?
They never mention it again do they lol
plush mason
they do
and it slowed the hivefleet long enough for the ultramarines to arrive in force
its just no one knows Titus was part of the deathwatch squad that launched the bomb
plush mason
yeah
shadow plover
yeah after the first mission or before it you can overhear some tech priests going over a Carnifex body and say that the hive fleet adapted to the virus in one or two generations
plush mason
ngl i love how the imperium knows bioweapons are nearly useless against the nids yet still use them everytime without fail
storm jungle
yeah after the first mission or before it you can overhear some tech priests goi...
"Overhear"
yeah that explains a lot lol
so its barely even explained
queen laurel
ngl i love how the imperium knows bioweapons are nearly useless against the nids...
You would think they would have you know spread that teaching a lot more but
storm jungle
ngl i love how the imperium knows bioweapons are nearly useless against the nids...
It did make for a good if pointless opening
plush mason
some magos sitting in a lab going "surely the xenos wont be able to adapt to this toxin" after the nids have adapted to every single other one without fail
storm jungle
Its definitely not as dumb as the hierotitan mission
plush mason
the what?
storm jungle
the "latest" mission they released a few months back where you kill the biotitan lol
even tho the planet is lost
plush mason
wtf
shadow plover
so its barely even explained
Well in the arming chamber where you are forced to go anyways but yeah
rose thorn
What’s chats thoughts on the new deathwatch index
storm jungle
Well in the arming chamber where you are forced to go anyways but yeah
Terrible....
plush mason
ok i get the game is mainly just a SM fan service/power trip but how the fuck does 3 marines kill a biotitan?
storm jungle
We use laser-batteries
(which itself is not really enough)
realistically that biotitan would have killed all 3 of those strike-team members since it bombards your entire position with acidic artillery lol
proven needle
Not that I expect a lot of realism from 40k but how powerful they make the tyranids re-absorbing their own biomass seem really bugs me. Sure, you can do that, but you will lose a big chunk of potential energy every time. So your swarm becomes smaller and smaller.
storm jungle
Do you mean re-absorb as in gathering their dead?
plush mason
tbf its not just their biomass they gather, its their's and the biomass of the forces and planet they invaded
storm jungle
Which also costs you energy 😆
I mean again it depends on the hivefleet, a fleet usually has sometimes more than enough biomass for planetary conquests depending on their invasion target. Most planets got no chance of winning against a hivefleet depending on their defenses, its why by the time Nids usually make planetfall its game over.
shadow plover
It's not just the spent friendly forces but the gene altered vegetation and local fauna as well so you've got plenty of excess
storm jungle
And yeah they gather every single biomass avaliable
they literally sometimes extract a planet's core, its atmosphere, etc
plush mason
yeah they harvest the whole world
proven needle
Yeah, I get that
plush mason
and do so with shocking efficiency
storm jungle
Yeah they basically got all the resources to waste usually.
The hivemind is also as strategic as the plot demands it against its protagonists so lol
plush mason
it does not take long for them to strip a planet to nothing
storm jungle
Yeah its usually a few weeks or months depending on fleet size as well
once they establish planetary supremacy its kinda over
proven needle
I wish that would come out a bit more on the table top, but alas games have to be balanced 😛
queen laurel
The hivemind is also as strategic as the plot demands it against its protagonist...
ogham campaign moment
queen laurel
its how a single artillery piece can kill guilliman lol
Nice demigod ass hole watch me snipe it with a rail gun
plush mason
Yeah tabletop =/= lore
one of my fav warhammer memes is the chaos marine going to attack a custodies and the banana boy just says "this isnt the table top" and the CSM runs away screaming lol
proven needle
What do you make of killing the hive tyrant stopping the invasion in SM2? Wouldn't there be the Norn Queens in orbit holding the hive mind together?
storm jungle
It largely doesnt make any sense
the game's treatment of Nids in general is very bad as it is
(for example Nids dont just drop dead when you kill a synapse creature lol)
queen laurel
Yeah you want to get rid of their actual command you're gonna have to get rid of the ones in the orbit
proven needle
(for example Nids dont just drop dead when you kill a synapse creature lol)
Heh
storm jungle
Yeah the game takes a lot of liberties with the Nids because its a game.
queen laurel
Hive tyrants are basically nothing more than just ground commanders
plush mason
tbf it didnt stop the whole invasion just that one push
shadow plover
It didn't stop the invasion either, just that one area
plush mason
its just the game forgot the nids exist after that mission
storm jungle
Nids largely get forgotten mid-campaign in favor of the Thousand Sons twist-plot
plush mason
it overall does a VERY bad job with it
yup
storm jungle
lmao jinx
And again no it being said in background/side-content does not count as "its explained"
plush mason
oh its never explained
plush mason
we just say "fuck the nids chaos is the bigger threat"
plush mason
yeah
queen laurel
Nids largely get forgotten mid-campaign in favor of the Thousand Sons twist-plot
yeah typical, oh no the xenos are doing bad things but what?
our enemy and arch nemesis chaos is here and ruin everything even more
space marine 1 and 2
storm jungle
I kinda get why they do it but eh
plush mason
atleast 1 handled it better
storm jungle
Yeah Orks are a bit more simplistic so it makes sense with the warboss getting smoked at least
plush mason
ofc killing the warboss of an ork wagh actually does end the invasion
queen laurel
Yeah Orks are *a bit* more simplistic so it makes sense with the warboss getting...
and Grimskull was actually entertaining
plush mason
jinx
queen laurel
it's funny to watch him speak and scream space marine
storm jungle
Grimskull carries SM1
plush mason
storm jungle
scenic bolt
100% only reason they went with nids is so they could just use WWZ as a framework, how many times did promotional material make a big deal of the horde mechanic and how they climb up stuff vs how many times is it actually used in game (like once per nid level if that)
scenic bolt
like WWZ used the zombie walls like several times per level, basically every setpiece
storm jungle
Its actually hilarious how the WWZ thing doesnt go beyond that yeah
its always the same thing
plush mason
Grimskull carries SM1
very true and he was so so much better than whats his face random chaos lord turned daemon prince for 10 seconds
storm jungle
"Oh theres a steep drop here"
"Wow the nids are climbing up!"
at first its absolutely cool imo but after the 6th time its just "yeah yeah i get it throws grenade"
scenic bolt
wow look at all these conveniently placed explosive barrels, wow the horde clambers up right next to E A C H O N E
plush mason
at first its absolutely cool imo but after the 6th time its just "yeah yeah i ge...
they really love that WWZ pryamid climing
storm jungle
wow look at all these conveniently placed explosive barrels, wow the horde clamb...
LMAO
plush mason
Saber is very proud of it
storm jungle
yeah the power of false-hype is really something
scenic bolt
it was 90% of the WWZ marketing
and loe and behold it was like 80% of the SM2 marketing
queen laurel
wow look at all these conveniently placed explosive barrels, wow the horde clamb...
Perfect for Dilara's barrel shooting tendencies
plush mason
yup
storm jungle
hot take but arguably WWZ did it better imo because it was actually a lot more dynamic
with SM2 its ALWAYS scripted ledge sequences
scenic bolt
hot take but arguably WWZ did it better imo because it was actually a lot more d...
as much as I rag on WWZ in the past yes very much so, SM2 is an imitator and not in great way
queen laurel
hot take but arguably WWZ did it better imo because it was actually a lot more d...
Yeah they actually built around it because that's what they wanted to sell the mass of hordes of people that look like warhammer players storming a shop every time a new space marine model comes out
scenic bolt
thats what they used to differentiate itself from being strictly 'just another l4d wannabe clone'
storm jungle
Yeah they saw the scenes in the movie and realised its the best thing to make a gimmick out of
queen laurel
thats what they used to differentiate itself from being strictly 'just another l...
Unfortunately left for dead has set a standard
storm jungle
even tho shit like Days Gone did it better
queen laurel
You ain't really beating that
scenic bolt
peak valve is hard to surpass
storm jungle
fr fr
queen laurel
Yep
storm jungle
L4D is timeless because its basic
queen laurel
L4D is timeless **because** its basic
Honestly when games leaning into what they want to be and put in effort to it they actually become good
scenic bolt
they ride off their reputation decades after (and namely avoid the big blunders thats cratered blizzards goodwill)
rocky gale
L4D is timeless **because** its basic
Just like...
plush mason
they ride off their reputation decades after (and namely avoid the big blunders ...
the fact battlenet could have been what steam is now is wild
scenic bolt
mike o brien fought for it
plush mason
peak missed opportunity
scenic bolt
years before valve made steam
plush mason
yup
scenic bolt
partly why he left blizz to go do guild wars
and now its coming full circle where its looking like MS may try to make battlenet its storefront
plush mason
ofc they are
scenic bolt
cause the MS store just does not have the reputation to salvage, at least bnet has one
plush mason
its better than their shitty app
so anyone that thought they wouldnt use it was just mad coping
proven needle
EA's and Epic's stores can die as well 😆
plush mason
they already have
scenic bolt
epics store is basically a net loss for the company if you exclude fortnite money
plush mason
the EGS could have been good, but they refused to fix it and instead opted to force people to use it wit exclusive deals
lapis verge
Isn't Epic just floating by purely from Tencent money
plush mason
more or less yeah, given that fortnite isnt printing money like it use to
scenic bolt
they still make licensing fees, its based off revenue
lapis verge
Unreal and Tencent money
scenic bolt
but they let it be free up to a certain point to get devs and importantly students into their walled garden
it took egs like 2 years to add a cart
rocky gale
more or less yeah, given that fortnite isnt printing money like it use to
Pretty sure they're doing fine
"Fortnite dead game" is just a meme that resurfaces every couple of months, it's still got millions of players and makes absurd amounts of money
queen laurel
"Fortnite dead game" is just a meme that resurfaces every couple of months, it's...
You can probably make a small town with the amount of money it gets yearly
rocky gale
You can probably make a small town with the amount of money it gets yearly
Higher annual revenue than the GDP of quite a few countries
queen laurel
Higher annual revenue than the GDP of quite a few countries
Damn
near wasp
I must of done something to offend the omniessiah
My PC is in a bootloop after trying to repair my windows cause a windows file got corrupted
plush mason
Pretty sure they're doing fine
ofc
i didnt say it wasnt making money, just not as much as it use to
too many licenced skins
so fortnite is still a money printer just not as effective as it use to be, at least for a time
also how the fuck did Epic manage to lose money during covid?
hell even shadowlands was able to profit off the lock downs (likely the only reason that expac made any money)
dusk patrol
You can probably make a small town with the amount of money it gets yearly
You could make a small city with it
crystal forum
Pretty sure they're doing fine
how much of this is from fortnite and from their store platform (large source of revenue)
storm jungle
99.9% of it is prob fortnite
crystal forum
highly doubt
rocky gale
highly doubt
plush mason
https://tenor.com/view/master-chief-get-griddy-fortnite-right-foot-creep-gif-266...
they unironically made very little off that skin
storm jungle
yeah because Halo is bascially dead
plush mason
and many of the other licensed ones to boot
queen laurel
https://tenor.com/view/master-chief-get-griddy-fortnite-right-foot-creep-gif-266...
bro they done put godzilla in fortnite
plush mason
who hasnt been ported to fortnite is an easier question at this rate lol
shadow plover
no fortnite titus...
queen laurel
who hasnt been ported to fortnite is an easier question at this rate lol
yeah i will say Karl Franz
plush mason
yet
queen laurel
checkmate
plush mason
oh gods, warhammer fantasy fortnite, there is a cursed thought
queen laurel
oh gods, warhammer fantasy fortnite, there is a cursed thought
you're welcome, now watch Grimgor speed build and headshot you with a 360
plush mason
thats not as bad as what i thought of first, Thorgrim Grudgebearer on the throne doing an emote
tight stratus
Is there anything akin the dynamic and character "The Silver Surfer" but for 40K?
A large huge evil force of ultimate power gives a fraction of their power to a normal man / thing who then becomes Jesus/Christ a powerful servant under him
plush mason
thats more or less chaos
tight stratus
oh true I didnt think about that
And its my understanding in that scenario Abaddon is the ultimate power there
tight stratus
Wow that's quite an achievement
plush mason
one he hates just as his father did
tight stratus
He doesn't appreciate being blessed by 4 gods?
plush mason
the gods blessings always come with a hook and he hates chaos afaik, he is one of those "chaos is just a tool" characters
tight stratus
Interesting, so if he could just live as a normal man with all that power he'd do it. He's not attatched to Chaos even if he is the face of it
plush mason
oh he would still be the warmaster, he is driven to take his revenge on the imperium for his own personal reasons
tight stratus
"As he reached adulthood, his father expected him to complete a Cthonian coming of age ritual that involved executing his closest comrades. Abaddon refused and expressed his disdain for kingship, instead slaying his father and his bodyguards."
Abaddon isn't such a bad guy on first line read
queen laurel
"As he reached adulthood, his father expected him to complete a Cthonian coming ...
unfortunately he fell to chaos
he might think that he is using them but remember
Four gods find him fancy enough to let him think that
If they wanted to they could combine their power and blow him from the inside out
plush mason
yeah
like all "chaos is just a tool" characters he has fallen into the same trap and is just a puppet and cant see it
just like Horus
and any other named character on the chaos lineup lol
with the aforementioned view point at least
queen laurel
like all "chaos is just a tool" characters he has fallen into the same trap and ...
rip to this bozo in particular
tight stratus
im guessing the chaos in Darktide and the Karnak Twins are so infinitesimal to occur on any radar anywhere close to Abaddon and this is ants on the ground in some random place for any events to outright ever have any large reaching consequence.
Which makes sense, you don't really want to tell a far-wide reaching game story when the game is a horde shooter or such. Really puts things in perspective though for me
Think im going to read up the relationships and dynamic between Chaos and Tyranids next
queen laurel
im guessing the chaos in Darktide and the Karnak Twins are so infinitesimal to o...
that's the plot of most warhammer things
take a faction drop them in the middle of nowhere and make a story
plush mason
yup
lunar harness
oh he would still be the warmaster, he is driven to take his revenge on the impe...
horus was bitter that marines had no place in the world after the great crusade was finished. the emperor made it EXTREMELY clear mortal humans were to be left in charge and outrank him.
barren prawn
btw i dont think anyone outside of this channel would care
but female savant psyker has a line where she says "Chirurgeon" but it is spelled as surgeon in the lines
that is all
arctic talon
It’s an old antiquated word iirc
barren prawn
yeah but its like an inquisition doctor
barren prawn
im sure they meant this https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Chiurgeon
rose thorn
Oh lmao
barren prawn
im sure they meant that not surgeon surgeon but the warhammer 40k equivalent
barren prawn
ye
rose thorn
Crazy how bile got the sickest fucking nick name
‘The spider’
And it’s because his robo surgery stuff kinda looks like a spider I guess
queen laurel
Crazy how bile got the sickest fucking nick name
So what you're telling me is that he's the spider-man of the 40k universe
outer wave
Bile 'The Spider Man' Fabius
rose thorn
So what you're telling me is that he's the spider-man of the 40k universe
There’s 2
arctic talon
‘The spider’
He’s also called that because he’s like a spider waiting in his web
For someone to mess up
rose thorn
For someone to mess up
“You fell into my trap, you see I drew my self as the chad and you are the chaos sucking virgin.”
gray umbra
Lol where is ahriman
arctic talon
He’s low hanging fruit
gray umbra
Im pretty sure theres a scene that goes like this where abaddon is recruiting first claw to the crusade and talos is standing there like
"Heh"
dusk patrol
Talos looking over at his men
“Oh yeah we’re so not corrupt.”
sour hornet
“You fell into my trap, you see I drew my self as the chad and you are the chaos...
This is deadass every 3rd traitor marine.