40k-lore-chat

[dusk patrol]

Canada is fine, it’ll be fine

There’s much worse countries to be

Not saying this stuff isn’t stupid but

I really don’t wanna talk about it at all

[rocky gale]

Someone on the radio earlier described Canada as “living in an apartment above a meth lab”

[dusk patrol]

Canada isn’t really that different from the US which neither really likes to admit

[gray umbra]

Rcons be like "lol just buy american" meanwhile harleys arent even made in the us

[scenic bolt]

think a lot of canada's problems get glossed just cause of how much more volatile a show america is

[crystal forum]

oh i know it will. the aluminium industry for example will just increase prices for US customers with tarrifs because you can't suddenly find a new supplier of very specific alloys for years long contracts. it's just funny

[gray umbra]

Your 20k dyna deathwobble going to be a 40k dyna deathwobble

[crystal forum]

and i dont think any country is better than another

we all live in a shit world

[dusk patrol]

I don’t really wanna get into the whole doomer thing rn

Like I said I don’t mind talking about a little bit of irl stuff but I don’t wanna get into politics, especially recent stuff. It’s so boring and it’s already everywhere else online, I really don’t need it here too.

[crystal forum]

i dont think that way either. im just saying you can find bad stuff about every country. i dont want to sound like i'm picking on the US specifically but i can't help it when most people here thing being canadian means hating our southern neighbours

[rose thorn]

@queen laurel

daddy krondy carrying stormcasts tbh

even i have him

this lsit too

my bad i sent the sma elist twice

this one used the vanguard one

[queen laurel]

It seems that the meta right now is giant monsters that buff the **** out of everyone

[rose thorn]

yeah but because of warcry eveyrone also has anti monster

mosters ere very wierd

krondy is not worth his points but because he has such maaizng magic hes a must bring

[queen laurel]

Yeah I like every single army in this game has some sort of anti monster option\

[queen laurel]

and Kragnos it's literally a god like colossal beatstick

[rose thorn]

Kraggy is also a bad but must take

It’s also genuine not as big as a problem as it sounds

There are very many amazing godless lists

You can replace krondy with like

2 knight arcanums

Or if you wanna be very funny bring yndrasta

[small grail]

not every poopoo time is peepee time

sorry im just losing my shit after trying to make the 13th legion

[dusk patrol]

[sour hornet]

The force gs fucks actually

wish IG sanctioned psykers got this stuff instead of just a staff

[outer wave]

https://youtu.be/BFMQhNBJIN8 @queen laurel

[queen laurel]

thanks but i'll watch the gameplay reveal in december 5

and i can also just check the website

[outer wave]

Fair enough

Also that's true

We're getting moveable campes

[queen laurel]

to be fair i am very much just weirded out that like 2 factions bring in their gods for max profit

[queen laurel]

oh that's nice because holy **** we need that

[rose thorn]

Nagash is pretty bad tbh

[queen laurel]

what about lord kroak and the lizards

[rose thorn]

Oh my bad I thought you meant universal gods

Chaos use to have archeon but lost him

[queen laurel]

nah just every God that can appear in the mortal table top realm like alarial or morathi

[outer wave]

In addition, Skrag is more focused on doing Maw offerings, while Greasus is more focused on getting money. Also construction is based off meat now and you get more meat from sacking and razing

[queen laurel]

so yeah he counts as well

[queen laurel]

what about settlements did they change anything about that

it's it's basically borderline useless besides profit

[outer wave]

Yeah basically you're more encouraged to raze or sack settlements

Not keep them

I'd have to read more into it

[queen laurel]

but did they at least make it easier to make camps?

ok let me read

[outer wave]

That I don't know

[rose thorn]

Oh yes who’s hype for Ogors army update

[queen laurel]

aos?

[rose thorn]

Yea

[queen laurel]

me

i want them to get their own unique legendary character

[outer wave]

God PLEASE I don't even play tabletop, but I love to see updates!

[queen laurel]

That is actually a Lord

[outer wave]

Same!

Give them a big fat fella who rolled over armies

[rose thorn]

Supposedly next year is gonna be a huge year for destruction which it seems

[bleak acorn]

dark elves :)

[outer wave]

Are dark elves in AoS still destruction?

I presume they are?

[queen laurel]

no they are now the daughters of khaine

[rose thorn]

What?

[queen laurel]

for order

[rose thorn]

Oh also cities

[queen laurel]

if you are talking about the old old dark elves they are in cities

[rose thorn]

Dark elves are in cities and daughters of khaine

[queen laurel]

yes

[rose thorn]

No clue what the hell what DoK are getting this edition

[queen laurel]

also finished reading the posts and it seems that building camps would not be such a hassle and meat will become basically the entire thing that keeps the faction running

[outer wave]

Ahhh

[outer wave]

That's pretty damn nice

Heard they'd be like a mix between horde armies and wood elves

[queen laurel]

Yeah so far skull taker is taking the short end of the stick from what I'm seeing

his campaign mechanic is literally lord hunting

[outer wave]

Yeah least he's got some cool ass units

I wonder how Gorbad is gonna be

[queen laurel]

his entire selling point is that he can basically use every unit in the orc roster to their advantage

where he can put together plans based on these units i think

But as you can see he's not getting as much screen time because he is definitely adding the least

[outer wave]

Hmm I see

[queen laurel]

His faction is like three DLC deep now

We got Skarsnik dlc, Grom, and him

Which to be honest I don't mind

But like orcs are pretty good already so like I was quite surprised they got a DLC

[small grail]

i will make the 13th legion

[opaque coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704847575970349106/1303928417523335249/ezgif-4-1a549259a9.gif

Hello

[tough haven]

If a tech priest gets a cranial augmetic, do they consider it to have a machine spirit? Or is it just the tech priests mind now?

[dusk patrol]

Generally no, they’d still have their brain

Bad form to completely change that, they can augment their brain, and you could play it as personality splitting or whatever but generally it’s an addition

Not a separate mind

[opaque coyote]

So would Cawl's separate personalities be additions?

[dusk patrol]

His thing is

Very special and hard to quantify since it sorta amalgamates

[opaque coyote]

Or does it depend on how extreme the tech priest is?

[dusk patrol]

But he’s doing something super super heretical too

[opaque coyote]

Ah the grey area AKA the only reason why Cawl hasn't been executed several times over

[dusk patrol]

Cawl does a lot of that stuff though

[opaque coyote]

The Guilliman copy agrees to that

[dusk patrol]

He keeps it on the DL

[opaque coyote]

I still find that funny

He had to make an AI simulation of Guilliman

Just so that he could see if he would freak out

Over whatever horrifying things he proposes

"Okay... After thousands of months of making you. I must ask this question...

Is turning the entire population of a planet into Servitors a bad idea?"

"...WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK CAWL?"

"Ah bad idea. Doing it anyways."

"YOU MOTHER F-"

[tough haven]

I know it’s not a seperate mind but do they believe the parts of them that are replaced by augmetics are inhabited by a machine spirit

Purely a question of faith

[dusk patrol]

Uh, I don’t recall that being a thing. But it doesn’t mean it’s not

Or couldn’t be

[opaque coyote]

Do they consider a Mechandendrite to be inhabited by a machine spirit?

[tough haven]

I’m not sure

Hence the question

[opaque coyote]

Hm

[tough haven]

In rogue trader, pasqual seems to think so

[opaque coyote]

I think it depends on the tech priest tbh

[tough haven]

But idk if that’s a widespread belief

[opaque coyote]

How religious they are blahblahblah

[tough haven]

I’m asking literally just so I know how to word something in my writing

[opaque coyote]

If they're closer to Cawl, then they probably think of it as

Well

Machinery

If they're more religious. They probably think of it as a machine spirit

Another being with them

So I think it depends on how devout your tech priest is

[arctic talon]

It depends wildly is the answer

Pasqal is also a bit of a weirdo

[tough haven]

Don’t dare talk about my best hive mind amalgam like that

[outer wave]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867485554156240901/1313522467192438835/image-1-1.webp?ex=675070a0&is=674f1f20&hm=9d1cdfd72a0a807199b04d996dd452ef3cdd9597f4357e0de46a529371b25e98&

[dusk patrol]

No

[outer wave]

Damn

[arctic talon]

Okay brass whisper

[tough haven]

Brass whisper doesn’t like pasqual

I think Pasqual is great

[dusk patrol]

They’re of

split minds

About it

[gray umbra]

Pasqal pls get out of the pool

[storm jungle]

[paper haven]

Which one is that?

[outer wave]

Erm, here????

[paper haven]

Oh. Are you sure?

[outer wave]

Freaking yes mate.....

[paper haven]

I'm joking. That's really sweet of you.

[tough haven]

This receptacle is adequate for the ritual of cleansing though

[outer wave]

Nah don't worry I'm also joshin

[storm jungle]

The rats

[tough haven]

Me when there’s rodents in my quarry

[crystal forum]

finally in chicago

why does it smell like trash

[rose thorn]

Necromunda*

[crystal forum]

no way they actually made necromunda in real life

[tough haven]

Except without any of the cool shit

[crystal forum]

where do i get an autogun

[tough haven]

Walmart

[crystal forum]

roger

[tough haven]

Or any cold trader, there’s a lot every where

[tough haven]

Unfortunately there’s no cool gangs like Escher or Goliath

[crystal forum]

fuck

[tough haven]

You can probably do that in the hive city of chicago though

anyone wanna help me write a alternate path for my one shot if the players get tpk'd earlier than halfway through?

[sour hornet]

depends on what it is tbh

[tough haven]

Basically writing them being captured and tortured for info, And then scenes for them to break out and uncover leads they would have had they not been captured

Also how does this sound for a letter to the defectors turned hired guns sent by the BBEG to kill or capture the party?

“To my “exterminators”, your task has changed. I have recently learned of some malcontents snooping around my operations, they will doubtless be searching for the package retrieved from the drop site. Spread out your agents, set ambushes around the hab block, if they encounter any of these nuisances, silence them for me, will you? And as a bonus, if you can find out who they are working for, I will give you double our previous arrangement. Once you have completed your task, meet my contact at the Adamas to receive your payment. With the enclosed invitations and cipher ident installed in your augmetic, you should have no issue getting past the rabble. And one more thing, should you fail in your task and survive, it would be unfortunate for the local commissar to learn of your “deployment status.” Happy Hunting.”

[crystal forum]

hey guys

i have liquid space marine sweat

who wants some

[shadow plover]

opposed to what? Solid sweat?

[crystal forum]

do not question me

i will confiscate your paints

also solid sweat is basically what happens after you dont shower

[shadow plover]

[queen laurel]

Jerk trust me you are not gonna figure out how this guy works it's like trying to understand the machinations of ork machinery as a mechanic

[shadow plover]

I believe you

[opaque coyote]

I bought Warhammer 40k Rogue Trader

yippee

[languid meadow]

Huge

[queen laurel]

aight that's code red

[raven stone]

I need to get the first DLC at some point.
(The one with the Assassin)

[queen laurel]

it's pretty peak

[raven stone]

Excellent, and I hope some of the far earlier bugs have been ironed out as well

[opaque coyote]

I was thinking of buying STALKER 2

But then I remember that the stalker games are usually uh

Not stable on release

[queen laurel]

Ironed out?

They changed a lot of things in the game and they practically shot out a lot of them

in my second playthrough i haven't encountered problems

[opaque coyote]

So I'm probably gonna wait like 2 months and hope they iron out some of it before buying it

[raven stone]

Awesome.
I still remember the days when the colony mangement icons were all mismatched xD

Or that one quest that you can never get the right timing on the station (the one that asks you to wait an indefinite period of time before going into the quarantine zone)

[whole dune]

https://youtube.com/shorts/wFfAMalQ7_M?si=zo7ecUEtqQsE3W76

I need some help regarding Warhammer lore.

I got tired of seing AI generated content or chatgpt-ish creators who simply rummage in the WIKI so I decided to make some Lore shorts.

If ANYONE can give me their honest feedback on the Emperor video I posted (everything is taken from the books but I dont read them verbatum) it would be of IMMENSE help! ❤️🔥🙌

[wintry scarab]

Which of the personalities would you say are the most "sane"? Savant and professional?

[shadow plover]

Bodyguard

[queen laurel]

Savant, professional and Judge for zealot

and for ogryn bodyguad

Judge might still be a religious nut case but they hand out judgement 1st to see if what they're doing is right or not

and by zealot standards that's pretty much very sane

[raven stone]

spoilers for Darktide specific lore

||does anyone think Rannick and Grendyl are a little bit sus as per the latest update with the Cathedral mission?||

[queen laurel]

nah

Grendyl sure

but Rannick seems genuinely surprised that he doesn't know about this

[raven stone]

true, although ||it was more him being a dick to Zola and also not pullling out the Strike Team that made me slightly sus of him||

[queen laurel]

yeah like he said they're already deep

||pulling them out now would mean that the ritual would have been completed||

so he decided to gamble it on our skills

[raven stone]

On the one hand, true, on the other hand, I think the ending cutscene kind of sort of implies ||it was completed anyways?||
To be fair, I could be wrong since I was too busy actuallly fighting the hordes lol

(thus missed out on the subtitles)

[queen laurel]

No it was not as you see those energy things leaving?

Also the woman's reaction saying that the failure of Mr. wolfie boy over here means that we need to do Plan B

[raven stone]

Ah I must have missed that line then. Thanks.

Also with this ritual thing, assuming we are really Ordo Hereticus, it would be interesting for a future expansion to bring in Ordo Malleus allies

Now that there are actual Chaos rites taking place, it is technically no longer a matter only for Ordo Hereticus

[green loom]

Nothing that won't get better with experience tbh

Maybe vet images a bit more for AI but that's a personal thing

[humble shoal]

Are we hereticus?

Also rannick is a dick

zola steals jeans

[gray umbra]

Yeah grendyl is hereticus

[humble shoal]

But imagine how funny it would be if he was ordo xeno

"Why are these 👖 stealers spitting out green stuff"

[gray umbra]

Lines get blurred between ordos all the time tbh

[humble shoal]

I mean yeah

Hereticus just tends to make things worse

||Vraks||

[queen laurel]

@outer wave @celest dome https://youtu.be/MoypeAl597k?si=bu6_islCNq-4uCHr

[rose thorn]

Did you see the new regiments of renown

[queen laurel]

not yet

just wait

[rose thorn]

They just released

They are very

Very coo

[queen laurel]

i like the legendary hero

for orcs

[rose thorn]

Yee I remember that model

Rip it

[queen laurel]

yeah it's very old

[opaque coyote]

Arachnophobes will probably torch the both of them

[rose thorn]

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_aos4_grotmas_advent_regiments_of_renown_2024-mdphxpmttu-uvqlc6umha.pdf

It’s so fuckinh awesome

[queen laurel]

Damn

two destruction factions in

there

Add my favorite dwarves ?

Damn they cooked

[rose thorn]

YEEE

DEATH SYLVANETH

UNIVERSAL NURGLE

DESTRUCTION BEASTMEN

[outer wave]

Didnt get to the Khorne units yet, a little interested in Arbaal tbh

[rose thorn]

Chaos flesh eaters

[outer wave]

We getting beastmen?

[rose thorn]

No

It’s lie

[outer wave]

Damn

Fuck

[rose thorn]

Like*

The slaves to darkness ogorids

Destruction Minotaurs

[outer wave]

Ahhhh

[rocky gale]

Flesh eater units for Chaos

https://tenor.com/view/hd-smirk-gif-7206957141966421326

[rose thorn]

Destruction Minotaurs

They made the meme real

[queen laurel]

I'm surprised they didn't showhorn the beast man into destruction considering how they just want to tear down everything

[green loom]

Guh

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's a ninja ogre

It has a lot of stealth abilities

It's good for assassinating things

Do not question how something that is probably taller than 9 ft can do that

[rose thorn]

Wow, this, looked a lot better in concept art

[urban spire]

how is total warhammer these of days?

[queen laurel]

My unchained fellow am i happy to say that it is recovering

[urban spire]

oh that's nice

[queen laurel]

The last dlc especially was pretty good

[urban spire]

i was pretty sure they'd crossed the trust thermocline when i got out of there

[queen laurel]

Tamurkhan, Elspeth and Malakai are pretty fun lords and i am definitely looking forward for this dlc

Because it literally has three factions that resonate with me

[queen laurel]

Yeah pretty sure right now they are doing their best to win the trust of the community and so far they've been doing pretty good

[arctic talon]

They should release another skaven dlc lord

Surely this will go over well

[queen laurel]

Fuck you

[urban spire]

[green loom]

The orc looks nice

[queen laurel]

I love the mangler squigs

They did justice for a unit that you know that just by reading about animating would be hellish

It's proper bouncy and looks pretty much something that i would just throw at the enemy lines and forget exist

[green loom]

I'm curious about what the next DLC is going to be

I figure Slaanesh and High/Dark Elves

[queen laurel]

Definitely has something for Slannesh

[urban spire]

wonder if i can play tzeentch without hating myself yet

[queen laurel]

She needs it very badly

[arctic talon]

Is the masque a lord yet

I forgor

[green loom]

Nop

[arctic talon]

If not then she’s prolly it

[queen laurel]

Nope

[green loom]

I'm hoping for Dechala/Finubar/random druchii

[queen laurel]

Yeah she's definitely at least going to be a legendary lord

Because if she is an flc lord

What is going to take her place

Like she's the only warhammer fantasy character that i can think of that can be currently a good bet for a legendary lord for purple lady

Because i swear if she ends up in the same position as Epidemius

It's going to be f****** sad

[dusk frigate]

Daemonkind refers to the Emperor as The Anathema. is the emperor of mankind actually Doom Guy

https://tenor.com/bUSd7.gif

[storm jungle]

Doomguy is too cool to be some cringe genocider like Big E

Guy would solo the entire Imperium if he saw how the average hiver lived lmao

[dusk frigate]

fair

[celest dome]

The Emperor wish he was 1 tenth as cool as Doom Guy

[queen laurel]

imagine a chapter master trying to stop him and he just glory kills the guy

[storm jungle]

Id pay good money to watch him kill anything and everything so i agree lol

https://tenor.com/view/doom-guy-demon-2016-gif-10925418

[dusk patrol]

I started disliking the Doomguy thing when Bethesda gave him a story

And had the lady orgasming talking about him in that one audio diary

[storm jungle]

Yeah it was great

[dusk patrol]

Less is more guys

Just have him kill stuff

[storm jungle]

They do both.

Which works pretty well.

[dusk patrol]

The more I learn the less I care

[storm jungle]

Its Doom.

[queen laurel]

Even the most simple of things needs to have some kind of narrative

[dusk patrol]

Fun game though

[storm jungle]

Also that yeah

[dusk patrol]

Not that much narrative though

[storm jungle]

"oh we learned Doomguy can kill even more things, this is boring"

[dusk patrol]

They lean into it too hard imo

The first one was ok

[storm jungle]

Again. Its Doom.

[dusk patrol]

Very barebones

[storm jungle]

People kinda expected/wanted more from the stuff teased on 2016

[celest dome]

Rip the helmet off, is disapointed that the head didn't come off with it, so bash it in with the helmet

[queen laurel]

Yeah in the first place when you come for the doom you come for a big guy kill demon not for the plot of how him losing his body turns him into John Wick with God powers

[storm jungle]

Yeah its pretty harmless and cool side-filler

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's there for the people that genuinely want to read hell lore cards are even a thing

collectibles that you just do for fun

you can literally ignore the story as you play

[storm jungle]

We also still largely know nothing about him.

[dusk patrol]

It become a bit much by Eternal and it’s dlcs for me, still fun but it’s not exactly an inspired story and it works better when there’s less for me

[storm jungle]

The side-fluff just explores his exploits

Not "oh he had a loving family back home"

[dusk patrol]

The dlcs largely were the jump the shark part for me

[storm jungle]

or "was bullied in school" or something

[storm jungle]

Yeah but again thats kinda the point

hes riding a space dragon because its cool

[dusk patrol]

It doesn’t make it better really for me if it’s intentionally overdone or not

[storm jungle]

I mean doesnt matter, people loved it.

Doom was never really a grounded thing to begin with

it was a dumb side journey with a nice ending where he gets sealed back in the toybox

[dusk patrol]

I don’t mean jump the shark like it’s too crazy

[queen laurel]

and have you seen him in the new trailer?https://media1.tenor.com/m/4rhbi_Ah8AwAAAAd/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages.gif

he is getting a ******* Jaeger

[storm jungle]

That stuff I kinda need to see more, I dont have too much of an opinion on Dark Ages atm

[dusk patrol]

I mean jump the shark like we have all these dudes and this backstory and all these factions fighting and uggghh

[storm jungle]

As long as its more 40k-tier dumb shit ill be happy probably

[dusk patrol]

It’s like John Wick

I still love it

But man can we get a skip button on this “lore”

[storm jungle]

and well innovative gameplay, as far innovative as Doom gets at least lol

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-jerry-leaves-im-leaving-gif-11845945

“So in this universe we have heaven and hell, but you’ll never guess, heaven is evil to-“

[storm jungle]

Nah the heaven stuff was great.

One of my fav levels in the game

[queen laurel]

but you have the option to ignore it besides like the story explanations which are just like you can just kind of turn off your brain

[storm jungle]

Also bioborg angels is a great aesthetic

[dusk patrol]

Ffs at this point I want them to make the angels and heaven the good guys in something to subvert my expectations

[queen laurel]

Yeah it slaps

[storm jungle]

Them being good would be even worse tbh

Doomguy basically just being used and getting packed away makes it better considering the hell he unleashed on all realms of reality lmao

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's now just your cliche you're the chosen 1 by heaven to kill them

[urban spire]

we literally know a single detail about doomguy's background before the games, and it's that he had a bunny named daisy who he loved back on earth

[storm jungle]

That too yeah

[urban spire]

daisy died in ep 3 i think? of og doom?

[storm jungle]

We just learn of his exploits

its really nothing

[urban spire]

and that's why he's going to kill every demon forever

[dusk patrol]

They go into his backstory a lot in eternal

[queen laurel]

Yeah he's a character built to be nothing more than to be basically a killing machine

[urban spire]

yeah but that's not from before og doom

[dusk patrol]

Ok that’s not my complaint though

My issue is it’s similar to stuff like John Wick

[storm jungle]

Bruh

[urban spire]

when he ended up on argent dnur or w/e he had already become a mostly quiet killbeast

[storm jungle]

John Wick did not invent Pet Vengeance Killing

[dusk patrol]

It’s a lot of backstory and lore when it worked better when it was just, more basic imo

[storm jungle]

Okay but its still basic

you can literally skip all the side-lore

[dusk patrol]

I didn’t say it was and that’s not my complaint once again

[storm jungle]

Then maybe make the point a bit more clear 💀

[dusk patrol]

My issue is when you keep adding too much

[storm jungle]

Okay but

[dusk patrol]

I have just fine

[storm jungle]

again

[queen laurel]

hell Gordrakk has more character than him and i am not joking

[storm jungle]

they really arent adding much beyond "he killed bigger demon"

[urban spire]

nah it's all comic book shit, it's fine

[storm jungle]

Also that yeah

What mystery

[dusk patrol]

That’s your opinion

[queen laurel]

yeah it's literally bare minimum comic book stuff

[dusk patrol]

This is a common complaint I’ve seen with eternal

[storm jungle]

Hes just some dude killing demons lol

[storm jungle]

Thats not saying much considering most "complaints" with Eternal are very uhhh questionable to say the least

[queen laurel]

yeah like it's a game designed for dumb fun and the stories are just there for you know side things you can do and read about

[urban spire]

"these cool knights from an alternate dimension found him and trained him to fight demons" "oh ok, what did he do then?" "he fought a lot of demons"

[queen laurel]

like the gameplay is amazing and very fun

[dusk patrol]

The complaints are it’s a fun game but the story is parts two away from it, it’s not well done really on that front

[storm jungle]

Mystery ruined 😔

Again.

Its Doom.

"story is not well don-" yeah no shit

Big demon. Go boom.

[dusk patrol]

2016 was well done

In that they kept it simple

[storm jungle]

Yeah because it was a reboot

[queen laurel]

it's literally a game made to overload your dopamine receptors with fun

[storm jungle]

It was always going to pickup further

[dusk patrol]

Yes and then they added too much this isn’t complicated

[storm jungle]

They really didnt

Its not that complicated

[dusk patrol]

It doesn’t ruin the game but it’s still not needed and takes away from it imo which is my point

[urban spire]

this is the level of seriousness they want you to engage with the story with

[queen laurel]

It's not meant to be an amazing story game where you can feel for it like baldurs gate

[storm jungle]

I legit cant understand why people get this analtytical over a Doom game lol

[dusk patrol]

The game is still fun, I liked it

[storm jungle]

That yes lmao

[gray umbra]

Bunny

[urban spire]

bnuuy

[dusk patrol]

I’m not getting analytical, I’m saying it takes away from it

[storm jungle]

Takes away from what tho

[raven stone]

When you give canon, people will (over) analyze it

[storm jungle]

What mystery

What nuance lol

[raven stone]

It is rule of life

[dusk patrol]

Yes and the problem is they go way too heavy into that subpar aspect

When the strength is the gameplay

[queen laurel]

yeah but like you can ignore it

[raven stone]

Actually people over analyzing canon

[urban spire]

let them, fuck it, what's the problem?

[storm jungle]

[raven stone]

Was how the phrase Horus Heresy

[queen laurel]

you can literally literally just ignore it

[dusk patrol]

I can, it still takes away form it

[raven stone]

went from a throwaway term

[storm jungle]

LOL

[raven stone]

to a full blown novel seires XD

[dusk patrol]

Its still there, I don’t get why this is complicated

[urban spire]

we are in a containment channel for people who overanalyze wh40k lore

[storm jungle]

ıf you actually get distracted by this stuff in a game like Eternal i feel like we got some other stuff to cover 💀

[dusk patrol]

I like the game, I think the overdone lore for Eternal and it’s dlcs took away from it

Whereas it had better gameplay than 2016

[raven stone]

Next thing they will speculate:
"What is Doomguy's diet so we can be chad like him?"

[queen laurel]

You're not seriously talking about overdone lore about something that is theoretically simple when you're a warhammer fan now are you

[urban spire]

don't think he eats

[dusk patrol]

2016 had a superior “story” in that it kept it simple

[raven stone]

And then the game devs will actually show the diet.

[dusk patrol]

Because I enjoy 40ks stuff

Also I don’t think 40ks is always good either

It’s not the same thing I’m looking for

Space Marine 2’s story largely was meh for me, the visuals were fun and I enjoyed it enough but it wasn’t good

[urban spire]

people will be like "doom 2016 is good because doomguy punches the story out of the way in the first cutscene" and like no sibling he was punching the screen out of the way because samuel hayden was saying shit that made it clear to doomguy that he was repeating the mistakes of his universe's past, which made doomguy angry

[dusk patrol]

Doom Eternal is a very fun game gameplay wise, it’s overfocus on its pretty meh story compared to 2016 which kept it lighter and tighter was a downside.

[urban spire]

2016 had the same lore shit going on, it was even voiced

[dusk patrol]

Yes which is better and more concise storytelling than actually Hayden is some dude from heaven who wants to enact this master plan and he’s been building it up this whole time in the background

[storm jungle]

Probably one of THE most annoying statements in the last couple of years ive seen people make.

"Omg doom 2016 does it better"

Okay go stick to that then lol

[queen laurel]

OK if you like it then stick to that then

[dusk patrol]

It’s possible for me to enjoy doom eternal and not enjoy the story of it

[queen laurel]

like seriously some people

[storm jungle]

Almost 99% of the "Eternal does this thing bad" stuff is basically them not just liking a feature "because muh 2016" yeah we get it.

[dusk patrol]

I like the gameplay a lot more, the storytelling was overdone and inferior to 2016 which had lesser gameplay

[storm jungle]

Yeah because they are at the end of the day different.

[urban spire]

i think letting studios do new things is fine

[storm jungle]

Its a repetitive statement and has gotten old

[dusk patrol]

Yes and I can critique both of them and still like both of them

They both were good games

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

Eternal could have killed a lot of the story elements for me personally and it would have been better

Not complicated

[storm jungle]

If theres anything people hate its change

or you know, new stuff

[urban spire]

they also hate it when things don't change

can't win

[storm jungle]

Pretty much.

[dusk patrol]

They changed the gameplay which was a great idea and made it much more fun

[storm jungle]

idk about that one lol

[queen laurel]

a lot of them be nurgle people

[dusk patrol]

And skillful but consistent

[storm jungle]

ive seen about as many people say the gameplay sucks

[queen laurel]

Why did you add this singular thing that won't affect me on my life on the series I love

[storm jungle]

or cry like a bitch because they cant defeat the Marauder

[dusk patrol]

Yes and I disagreed with them which is fine

[storm jungle]

which literally became an internet meme

same shit different day

[dusk patrol]

They don’t have to like it, it does force you to play a specific way

And I get not loving that

[storm jungle]

I mean

i get using your brain is hard as a gamer

[dusk patrol]

Cause 2016 you could just use like two guns the whole game

[storm jungle]

but sometimes you gotta think outside the skullbox

[storm jungle]

Thats another complaint i also hated

like god forbid we encourage diverse combat

[queen laurel]

unfortunately I brute force my problems until I fix it

[dusk patrol]

Doom Eternal the devs had a very clear idea of how you should play and you suffer for not doing that, and I’m fine with that cause I liked it a lot

[storm jungle]

You get one Caco

[dusk patrol]

But I get if people didn’t wanna play that way, it wasn’t gonna be fun for them

[queen laurel]

I mean the gameplay is literally use everything you have at your disposal and be creative there you go

[dusk patrol]

It’s almost a puzzle game in combat form sometimes

[dusk patrol]

To some degree yeah, it’s more restrictive because of that but also I liked it because it was designed very tight and well gameplay wise around that

[queen laurel]

delicious finally good dinner, Caco Meatballs

[dusk patrol]

I’m looking forward to the next one, whatever they’re gonna call that

[arctic talon]

Ngl my biggest issue with doom eternal

Is how poorly balanced some weapon options are

Full auto shotgun, turret mode, microwave beam

Ect.

[urban spire]

idk i prefer a more devil may cry type approach to combat variety, where you can stick with one thing if you like but you're rewarded with feeling like a total badass if you learn to use everything

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/v1-ultrakill-v1-ultrakill-v1-plush-v1-plushie-gif-10744198944579940944

[dusk patrol]

I just play DMC for the soundtrack

https://tenor.com/view/devil-may-cry-5-dmc5-vergil-dmc5-vergil-devil-may-cry-5-dmc5-vergil-gif-14136786929622716875

And I am the storm that is approaching

[arctic talon]

I just wish doom eternal had a better balanced weapon sandbox

Tbh

[urban spire]

love the monobloc chair

[arctic talon]

It’s prolly the funniest DMC 5 meme

[outer wave]

Every time someone talks about DMC that damn chair comes up

[urban spire]

yeah because it's so fucking funny

[dusk patrol]

It’s the best thing the franchise has ever made

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-chair-vergil-chair-gif-2545619634905206492

[dusk patrol]

And I love DMC

[urban spire]

you feel the sound in your spine when he gets up

[dusk patrol]

Into the Light is the best song they’ve made

And once again I love so many of their songs

But they just killed it with Virgil

As little as he appears

[urban spire]

bury the light, you mean?

[dusk patrol]

Yes that

Fake fan

[urban spire]

yeah it's sick

[dusk patrol]

Devil trigger is also great though, the whole soundtrack kills

[arctic talon]

Devil trigger captures Nero perfectly

[dusk patrol]

Playing Nero made me sympathize with being a deadbeat dad

[urban spire]

weird that the character with no devil trigger has a theme named devil trigger oh well this probably means nothing

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/dmc5-gif-14000810

Mfw

[arctic talon]

It’s just a reference to how he has devil blood

And gets triggered easily

[dusk patrol]

I thought it was a sex thing

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/devil-may-cry-v-dmc-devil-may-cry-dmc5-nero-gif-19587127

[dusk patrol]

The song really does sound uh

Don’t play it around other people

[arctic talon]

Move fast, baby, don't be slow
Step aside, reload, time to go
I can't seem to control
All this rage that's inside me
Pullin' shots, aimin' dots, yeah, I don't miss
Branded by fire, born in the abyss
Red hot temper, I just can't resist
All this vengeance inside me
All of these thoughts runnin' through my head
Arm on fire, veins burnin' red
Frustration is gettin' bigger
Bang, bang, bang, pull my Devil Trigger

[gray umbra]

Nero gets one

[dusk patrol]

“No you dont get it honey it’s a metaphor for his rough childhood and rage, it’s not about sex I swear!”

“I mean it might also be sex idk.”

[urban spire]

boss mix of bury the light also slaps

this is related to 40k lore because devil may cry is about demons which is also what 40k is about

[gray umbra]

I thought 40k was about the grim darkness of the far future

[arctic talon]

https://youtu.be/NOZONW-UK0w?si=2YwBuhR9m9kUWHfp

[urban spire]

nero is so much fun to play

[urban spire]

yeah but unfortunately we arrived at the grim darkness of the far future of 2024 so 40k has to be about something else now

kind of want 40k character action now

well no, if i'm being honest i just want to play vergil in darktide

[dusk patrol]

https://youtu.be/iI_FYdY2QBA?si=mQ9Ftef5pfTNzqh3

I love Vergils animations the most, but they definitely nail the different styles between him Dante and Nero so well

[urban spire]

vergil is probably my favourite to play

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/miyamoto-chris-pratt-san-he's-so-cool-he's-so-gif-4276221900741923469

[urban spire]

the frame perfect negative edge judgement cut is such a sick mechanic

[dusk patrol]

Me every second I’m playing Vergil

[urban spire]

also the way the lyrics cut in when you're maintaining SSS

more games need to fuck around with music like that

[dusk patrol]

DMC and MGR Revengeance both do that really well

[urban spire]

absolutely

[dusk patrol]

And I fucking hate Raiden

Like I actually can’t stand him but I love that game

[urban spire]

he sucks, i love him

[dusk patrol]

I can’t find him cool at all but man is that game awesome

[opaque coyote]

So this is a weird question for y'all.

But if you get into a Coma for like a day. Does it count as a form of "sleep". Or do you still feel tired when you wake up from the coma lmao

[dusk patrol]

Depends on the coma I assume

Comas are also kinda complicated idk if you can even only be in one for a day

[urban spire]

forms of unconsciousness other than sleep aren't restful, speaking from personal experience

your brain and body have to go through a bunch of complicated shit to make sleep work

[opaque coyote]

yeah that's mainly what I want to know

thank you

also hope it wasn't too long of a knock out

or too damaging

[urban spire]

i had a grand mal seizure once, totally unconscious for the duration of it, it was not any kind of rest at all

i walked down the stairs and teleported into the back of an ambulance, no sense of time passing even

no permanent damage though, i'm fine

[dusk patrol]

Generally speaking, especially because comas happen for many different reasons, there’s not a consistent answer it seems on if they are restful and if they’re not if that’s because the injury or the coma

[gray umbra]

Seizures are a wild experience

You get the blackout and then the next thing you know you wake up on the floor and everyone is panicking

[urban spire]

i've only had the one, trigged by a very fucked sleep deprivation situation

[gray umbra]

Mine was caused by low blood pressure

I was a very malnourished teen

[urban spire]

i'd been awake for 30 something hours and when i tried to sleep someone kept waking me up

[gray umbra]

Yeah thats rough

I pulled an all nighter yesterday and had to go into work

[urban spire]

ouf

yeah i've learned to be careful staying up too much lol

i was in my 20s then too, youth is no protection when you're doing that sort of thing to yourself

[gray umbra]

Yeah i had some anxiety thing so i literally laid in bed awake until 6 am and my alarm went off

And im like fuck im out of sick time

[urban spire]

ah that's really rough, sorry that happened to you

[gray umbra]

No biggie, just sucked

Only thing keeping me going was nitro brew coffee

Literally heart palpatations all day

Then passed out as soon as i got home

[urban spire]

well at least you got some sleep

[steady dawn]

Oh I’ve been there. Did you have multiple back to back or just the one?

[young pecan]

I only had one once in my life when I was in math class years ago, when I woke up I just stood up and said "what happened"

[green loom]

New update is kind of a banger

[sour hornet]

^

it's unfortunately peak

I just clutched a mael with the force greatsword

conclusion?

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[storm jungle]

Havoc is the only bad part but its very much fixable.

Im still not too bothered by it because i got an actual life instead of getting mad at a meta-chaser specific gamemode

[young pecan]

Havoc is bad how so?

I haven't tried yet

[storm jungle]

Uhhh if you wanna know just kinda look through some of the complaints on theorycraft, probably the most generally condensed and non-braindead takes are in there

Its a mix of some weird features and it being kinda bare atm, its like Chaos Wastes on launch. Some people are saying its awful when its just kinda clunky in some areas, it'll definitely get better but it needs more polishing.

[young pecan]

Hmmm heard, I'll have to play some

[storm jungle]

Yeah just play it and see how it is

[young pecan]

I hear things about weapon set-ups needing to be different

Because the "perfect" auric mael setup won't do in Havoc

[storm jungle]

Yeee it gets crazy in the later levels if you can get there lol

[gray umbra]

only gripe with havoc is the server issues rn

otherwise it just plays like wow mythic keystone

without the gearing aspect

[storm jungle]

Yeah it needs some quirks to be tweaked otherwise its not too bad

it is also like Day 2 of launch so 💀

[gray umbra]

yeah other than that

[green loom]

I'm slowly going up

[gray umbra]

this rotation of modifiers is just, take corruption reduction zealot

and you ball

[green loom]

Been playing with friends so only at 7 but I got level 16 from doing an auric maelstrom to unlock it

I play Plasma vet when tryharding so like, pretty fkn braindead

But I've been swapping to Psyker/Zealot because the swords are so fun

Been enjoying Stealth Zealot in particular

[gray umbra]

im swapping between peril edge psyker and paladin zealot

[gray umbra]

lol people constantly bitch about knife zealot

[green loom]

Oh no I run sword with it lol

[arctic talon]

Theoretical 50% DR lol

[gray umbra]

zealous

[green loom]

Fancy

[gray umbra]

gotta play up the paladin bit

[green loom]

I'm fluffing my guy as a deranged pilgrim who became hyper obsessed after a trip to a feudal world

[gray umbra]

sad thing is im a vet main

but the gs are just so good

[green loom]

He's called "The Sheath" because he's intent on running himself through with the sword when his "Quest" is done

[green loom]

Oh I mean yeah same

Plasma/Shout and just chill

[gray umbra]

i am cosplaying my pskyer as a eisenhorn clone

re-enacting every scene ever where he does the weeb thing with barbarisater

https://tenor.com/view/crayator-katana-gif-19295368

[arctic talon]

Least deranged zealot

[green loom]

Fr fr

[sacred ginkgo]

12 hitmass bruisers

(Most good cleaving attacks on 1 hands are 8 cleave)

[green loom]

The swords are just so so satisfying

[green loom]

What are these usually?

[arctic talon]

Wrath time

[green loom]

Is 50 a pain to get to?

[arctic talon]

Or whatever the fuck it’s called

The thing that gives cleave on it

[gray umbra]

yeah wrath

[sacred ginkgo]

Wrath yes

Savage sweep can’t even proc

[gray umbra]

i take wrath and riposte on force gs

[green loom]

I've been taking the quell perk on mine lol

If there's a big enough horde you can just not leave scryer's

[gray umbra]

i dont even take scryer

[arctic talon]

Wrath + cranial on the zealot sword

Seems ideal for Havoc

[sacred ginkgo]

Yep

[gray umbra]

im taking bubble + assail and then going full right tree and then spreading out for warp rider and that other one that gives toughness on peril

force gs + laspistol

do you take mk2 or the other one for relic blade?

i might try wrath, rampage is nice but the horizontals seem to do jack shit on hordes

or at least the moebian 21st ones

[dapper gyro]

When in doubt, smite.

[green loom]

I forgor which one I take ngl

It's the one with double swipe > stab

[sacred ginkgo]

Zealot chat pins

[sacred ginkgo]

Mk10

[sour hornet]

you'd be alot cooler if you did

[green loom]

I likes it big time

Though domes are pretty damn useful

[gray umbra]

interesting that IJ is preferable

i guess for the stab

[dapper gyro]

Most classes don't have strong defensive options for some havoc modifiers aside from psyker.

[green loom]

I don't think I've tried out the other mark for relic blade yet

But I do like the base one

[dapper gyro]

VoC is only good for a moment, zealot is self care, orgryn is big target.

[sacred ginkgo]

Vets have smokes and infil, zealots have relic

Relic is actually super valuable for havoc

And the middle aura is actually good there

[rose thorn]

currently obsessing with FEC again

[green loom]

What's considered very high havoc

[dapper gyro]

I forgot about relic, it is one of the must haves

Infil is a defensive ability, but it is not for the team. Smoke works both ways, its drawback is often not worth it (not able to see the enemy to take them out).

Disengaging tools are not necessarily defensive.

[sacred ginkgo]

Infil is an ambulance

And no, smokes are absolutely worth it

[arctic talon]

smokes stun enemies no

[sacred ginkgo]

Single shooters can shred toughness at horrifying rates a the high end

[sacred ginkgo]

Light stagger/suppression on explosion

And it fucks with specials ai

Nothing more besides near total ranged immunity

[young pecan]

I don't know any of Dukane's lore but I hope she's just some noble's snobby kid or someone similar who doesn't really deserve the rank

Even if that's not likely

Because the way she talks makes it sound like she was born into wealth

[green loom]

Being a commissar she's probably a war orphan

[rose thorn]

Thinking about it the Carcharadons being made by the fandom into a Pacific Islander style rep is kinda racist? Gw pushed for it a bit but dropped it

[arctic talon]

the pacific islander style is still a thing in GW's

its just not nearly as like

pronounced

its all very subtle stuff

[rose thorn]

Ah

[arctic talon]

veterans/officers tend to have some of the tattoo patterns

but thats about it

[rose thorn]

Ah

[arctic talon]

also their naming convention

for some members

is pacific islander inspired

[rose thorn]

I’m not saying it’s not cool, but it’s kinda reminiscent of pretty yucky stereotypes

[arctic talon]

how so

I don't think the space sharks are that bad?

[rose thorn]

Yeah it’s not that bad

[arctic talon]

like they just do normal marine stuff

and are dicks

[rose thorn]

But it remind me stuff like ‘islanders are cannibals obsessed with murder Yar Yar Yar’

I think it’s mostly a fandom thing tho

[arctic talon]

I mean they aren't obsessed with murder

regarding the Sharks

they just like CQB for resource managment

boltshells are expensive smh

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

They literally have no normal supply line because Corax dad was an asshole

[rose thorn]

I’m not saying the sharks are bad I’m just saying the ‘fandomized’ version you see in Reddit fan art and stuff

It’s like okay yeah they are sharks but they aren’t world eaters lmao

[arctic talon]

Okay yeah fair

I can see that

But my favorite design element of the sharks visually is how minimalist they look

[arctic talon]

Iconography and ornamentation wise

[rose thorn]

Yee it’s very cool

[arctic talon]

kid named flesh tearers

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

also imagine freehanding the "tattoos"

[rose thorn]

Idk if I wanna say fandoms Flanderize a chapter

But like

[arctic talon]

they do

a lot

tbh

that is the fate of every faction in 40k

💀

[rose thorn]

Lmao

I really hate the fandom version of mantis warriors

It’s so cringy

I don’t wanna post fanart because it’s good art I just hate it

[arctic talon]

The real nightmare freehand

[rose thorn]

I FORGOT AVOUT THAT AHSHDVJAVKS

Literal insanity

To put on a Sargent

[green loom]

One mind syndicate jumpscare

[rose thorn]

FR

[young pecan]

Still think it's funny that Flesh Eaters don't go crazy with the flesh eating, but the Flesh Tearers do

[arctic talon]

bro repaints it every mission after he eats a bolt shell

[young pecan]

If I'm remembering a previous convo in here right

[rose thorn]

I will viciously blame OMS

[green loom]

Hey you need something to pass the time

[arctic talon]

Flesh eaters do eat a good bit of flesh

but they don't go crazy for it mid battle yeah

Flesh Tearers are like

[young pecan]

Evil

[arctic talon]

mmmmmm tasty femur

mid fight

[rose thorn]

It’s like, all of the badab war chapters that are flanderized to hell

But to be fair

https://preview.redd.it/minotaurs-chapter-model-are-limited-v0-owm9dwaf10rb1.png?width=564&format=png&auto=webp&s=b57842584ab4f8f7d3b3c699525b281cdc01c46b

[arctic talon]

Minotaurs aren't flanderized that much

[rose thorn]

This is an OFFICIAL model

[arctic talon]

they literally are that much of a bunch of assholes

in lore

[rose thorn]

Yeha

[arctic talon]

but yeah the rest

💀

[rose thorn]

God it’s fucking insane this is real

[gray umbra]

that man looks like he likes to step on elves

[arctic talon]

Molocs armor is like

so dripped out

compared to other minotaurs lol

[young pecan]

Roman larp final boss

[rose thorn]

AHAHAHDIA

[arctic talon]

like a line marine just looks like this

LOL

[rose thorn]

The first 5 times I saw this I thought it was a major overkill model

[arctic talon]

Moloc is

a bit too ornamented tbh

but its whatever

he's literally got a sugar daddy mommy paying for repairs and new stuff

[rose thorn]

It’s so funny

[arctic talon]

tbh

its the head chap and the chapter master

they're allowed to go a little crazy

[rose thorn]

Yeha but even DA aren’t this bad

[arctic talon]

I mean

yeah

but you want to know who is

[rose thorn]

Hm

[rose thorn]

AHVDJSVISHIA yeah

https://mrmuffinstrains.com/cdn/shop/files/99120101332_SMSWCombatPatrolGroup.jpg?v=1729280625

“Wow what cool Vikings!”

https://i.etsystatic.com/15460384/r/il/b10095/4405484801/il_570xN.4405484801_b4hz.jpg

[arctic talon]

I have heard rumors

they are killing the dog sled

[rose thorn]

NOOOO

[arctic talon]

riding wolves isn't even that terrible

dog sled is the worst

[rose thorn]

it’s not a bad model tho

It has 24 wolves on it

[arctic talon]

this dude also isn't bad

[rose thorn]

[arctic talon]

I cannot forgive the wolf sled

[rose thorn]

As a certified, quoted, discord puppy girl, these are the worst dog themed models I’ve ever seen

[gray umbra]

wolfwolfwolfwolf

[arctic talon]

new ragnar is good imo

[rose thorn]

My favorite part is it isn’t a bad model

[arctic talon]

oh its a great model lol

[rose thorn]

Most of these aren’t bad

It just

The theming

[arctic talon]

they're all very good sculpts

its like

odd

[rose thorn]

Except wolfkin

[arctic talon]

then again I'll take 40k space wolves

over 30k bannana fur

[rose thorn]

What’s wrong with 30k I was about to say the opposite

[arctic talon]

no this

[arctic talon]

the new SW dudes are great

[rose thorn]

This model is 10000 times better and more thematics on brand

[arctic talon]

the old ones

are ass imo

except deathsworn

[rose thorn]

Oh I thought that was chain mail whoops

[arctic talon]

death sworn are the only good old heresy space wolf mini

[arctic talon]

yeah no its fur

💀

[rose thorn]

Why is there fur under the shoulder pad ??

[rose thorn]

That doesn’t make sense

[arctic talon]

please redo them

they're so bad lol

[rose thorn]

https://preview.redd.it/new-horus-heresy-space-wolves-upgrade-sets-v0-mdiz7zgy1pf91.jpg?width=846&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6ca4e567dcea0355480890897b9335e536dfd80

[arctic talon]

thats because there isn't

[rose thorn]

LMAO

I unironically really like these

[arctic talon]

look how they massacred my boy

[arctic talon]

deathsworn are great

way better then the bag head dudes

GW this shit aint it

[rose thorn]

To start-

W

[arctic talon]

please just give wulfius maximus

[rose thorn]

W

What

What am I looking at

[arctic talon]

its based on the viking like

thingies they wore under their helmets

I think

[rose thorn]

I get HH space wolves is like, themed around the clash of old and new technologies and shit

But

Really?

[arctic talon]

you know what these space wolf players would love

a leather balaclava

[rose thorn]

LMAO

NL players crying

For that

To start HH SP you might literally just backpack swap and helmet swap the blood claws

[arctic talon]

night lords don't do chaos mf'ers when I show them this

[rose thorn]

Wiat that’s official?

[arctic talon]

yeah

celebration mini for Horus Heresy

for a "traitor librarian"

[rose thorn]

I thought that was kitbashed lol

I was like ‘what happens to the wizards and librarians who like, summon a khrone demon’ then I realized they get murdered right after

[opaque coyote]

"OW OW OW THERE IS A FUCKING DAEMON COMING OUT OF MY HAND. I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S SUCKING OUT MY BLOOD."

"DOES ANYBODY GOT ANY PAINKILLERS?"

"PAINKILLERS? WE ONLY HAVE THINGS FOR CAUSING PAIN."

[gray umbra]

He burned his hand on the stove

And needs his apothecary to treat his booboo

[opaque coyote]

Me when I try to bring my food out of the microwave

(the food itself still cold)

[rose thorn]

Hey does anyone. Know what Kragnos armor is based off of

[opaque coyote]

Is this the male version of female MMORPG armor

[tough haven]

Can someone help me come up with some plausible Aeldari ranger dialogue for my one shot? I don’t usually write stuff for Aeldari so I’ve got a limited picture of what they should be like

For context, Aeldari ranger has been trailing the party because the party is trying to recover a piece of xenotech for the mechanicus, and the ranger wants them to lead her to it, and has been helping them along from the shadows, after she knows where the tech is at, she doesn’t really care about them anymore. She didn’t intervene when they were ambushed by a cold traders hired guns because she figured either way, someone will lead her to it. The ranger confronts the party before they raid the BBEGs warehouse for the tech and tries to convince them to return the artifacts to the ranger instead of the mechanicus, but has no issue exterminating them if they refuse or double cross her. After all, what are the lives of a few Mon-keigh, when compared to even one ounce of Aeldari culture?

[crystal forum]

where do people get this idea that night lords dont chaos when their only book series has the main character surrounded by people falling to chaos

[gray umbra]

Same book series lol

Using chaos as a tool == rejecting chaos apparently

[opaque coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw7q02DyHB4

I love the idea of Eldar just having like

17000 hours long video essays

imagine their movies

jesus christ

[shadow plover]

take a gander at Necron plays

"War in Heaven, in real time"

[opaque coyote]

yeah don't they last like hundreds of years?

[shadow plover]

Can't recall if it was hundreds but many years nevertheless

[dusk patrol]

I’ll admit that video did do a good job summarizing most YouTube video essayists

[opaque coyote]

I like to imagine that cheese pizza isn't a euphemism, and that Mr. Warlock actually had 10 quintillion yottabytes of nothing but pizza recipes.

He delved too deep in the path of the Italian Chef

[arctic talon]

Lie via omission, turn the parties own beliefs against them. I.e it’s heresy to use xenos weaponry, return it to its rightful owners Ect.

[coarse pumice]

I would look into how east asian languages translate to western ones, but with also with the thought that a lot of the native words reference things within their culture - though the speech will depend on how well the character speaks gothic and/or how far they are willing to show it

Also individuals have different personalities and varying amounts of social awareness so you'll have leeway on how you want to present the character

[dusk patrol]

Just write like a tricky catty bitch.

And pretend you have a rotten turnip under your nose when you say stuff.

[tough haven]

They do speak gothic

I’m not sure if I want them to try and hide that they are Aeldari

[storm jungle]

How uninformed are the characters about aliens

[tough haven]

I love it

[tough haven]

Not sure cause they won’t fucking give me their character sheets, but one I know is an undercover Ordo xenos acolyte

[storm jungle]

Then yeah its better if the Eldar just puts up a big hood/cloak

[tough haven]

But the party should definitely get checks to uncover that

[storm jungle]

Yeah but they dont know what an eldar is

only the acolyte would know

then spend like 5m explaining them what an eldar is

[tough haven]

But if they are hiding, should they still have strange speech patterns with the mon-keighs and whatnot?

[tough haven]

Wouldn’t most imperials be like “you look different, kill it with fire”

[raven stone]

Not necessarily I think.

Using Rogue Trader as a reference point...

[storm jungle]

Depends on the Imperial

[tough haven]

Even if they assumed it’s a void born or some mutation

[storm jungle]

most Imps are street-punks who wouldnt give a shit how weird someone looks unless they are literalyl sprouting extra limbs and other weird stuff

[raven stone]

An Eldar was able to be active in an Imperial Court as a mutant advisor

[storm jungle]

^

It very much depends on "how fascist is this person"

most common sense using hivers would just go "yeah they are tall and creepy" and thats it

[tough haven]

Like if the rest of the players might be like sororitas or imperial guard, it’s plausible they would have fought eldar or know

Again, info I would like to have lol

[raven stone]

I mean, if your players are vague or could not decide

[tough haven]

Btw this is in an “upper class” area of the lower hive city

Possibly with people around depending on how the party travels

[raven stone]

It is not too big a stretch to think they just genuinely have not met Eldar despite knowing the name

[queen laurel]

Yrielet literally got away with that lie for like AWHILE

[raven stone]

Arguably it works weirdly better.

Most upper Hive nobles are written in Canon as incompetent twats

[tough haven]

Oh no, the only nobles here are those slumming it

[raven stone]

They might genuinely not know what an Eldar is

Ah ok

Oh misread

[tough haven]

When I say upper class I mean like “some of the buildings have paint”

[raven stone]

But yea, lower hives, they will just think "weird tall mutants"

[tough haven]

And it doesn’t smell like human refuse all the time

[raven stone]

In the lower or middle hives, they will excessively unlikely know what an Eldar is

[queen laurel]

oh yeah dils has their been a power-flail in lore?

[raven stone]

In fact, in another BL story featuring Amberly Vail...

Some Hive ganger is selling soulstones thinking it is normal jewelry

[storm jungle]

Literally every single kind of melee weapon exists in 40k

so yeah its not impossible