But either way it’s a weird fumble.
#40k-lore-chat
dusk patrol
plush mason
was Magnus' return treated the same way as Fulgrim's seems to be in universe?
dusk patrol
was Magnus' return treated the same way as Fulgrim's seems to be in universe?
He came back before Guilliman
young pecan
Thank you 
dusk patrol
It was a big deal because it was leading into a lot of stuff
storm jungle
Yeah it was a lot less "and heres a primarch"
dusk patrol
It’s sorta forgotten because of that but yeah he was the start of that whole big cascade of events
celest dome
Is a Googling a small egg then ?
storm jungle
now its been a lot more standardized
plush mason
was there this whole "he is goingto come back and shake everything up" that seems to be happening with Fulgrim?
storm jungle
Uhhh kinda
but like
that happens with EVERY release
its to build up fake hype so people buy stuff
plush mason
fair
dusk patrol
They always get something big to do, Lion arguably for the least to do funnily enough when he came back but he’s doing some stuff
storm jungle
Yea in Magnus' case stuff actually happened but now it largely doesn't matter because 40k is built on WWE wrestling formats to a degree.
"He'll be back for Round 2"
plush mason
the setting must move at a rate that makes tectonic plates look like F1 cars
plush mason
i know, im only partly joking
dusk patrol
Angron got his Arks book and the novel with him in it. Mortarion and DG got a whole massive war, Magnus was invoked when Guilliman returned to Terra and stuff like Warzone Fenris beforehand.
storm jungle
lol ik but still
Yeah its kinda dependant
Morty and Angron prob did the most
Magnus was kinda whatever
dusk patrol
the setting must move at a rate that makes tectonic plates look like F1 cars
Compared to how it used to be?
plush mason
did the setting even move at all?
dusk patrol
Kids these days don’t know how good they have it
tough haven
the setting must move at a rate that makes tectonic plates look like F1 cars
2 minutes from midnight style
plush mason
make no mistake its good the setting is moving and GW is right to move slow
storm jungle
and it did, for the most part
storm jungle
make no mistake its good the setting is moving and GW is right to move slow
I preferred when it just wasnt but people need entertainment
you can only do so many pointless wars/campaign supplements
dusk patrol
It took like 30 years to actually move it forward
storm jungle
atm the plan is like the same as usual
Make Warzones
Make Campaign Events
Slowly introduce Primarchs
we'll be a good 10 years with this
or like more idk
plush mason
all 18 will be back in action at some point i feel
dusk patrol
Rn they’re building up to the big Pariah Nexus thing, which will probably lead into what Fulgrim is doing
Which will probably involve the PLs
storm jungle
all 18 will be back in action at some point i feel
Very much so yes
Fulgrim is up first
Russ will prob come later
I forgot how much money SW make
so idk
dusk patrol
Which will probably lead into Russ early next edition
storm jungle
Yeah that
dusk patrol
SW update is actually huge if the leaks are true
storm jungle
Yea after that we will basically go from Most Popular Primarchs to Least Popular release-wise
so after Russ who comes next idk, maybe Corvus
actually prob Lorgar my bad, then Corvus
plush mason
the Khan, as a super pain engine :P
storm jungle
its hard to guess because they dont have their own armies
storm jungle
the Khan, as a super pain engine :P
Ferrus and Sanguinius im sure they'll find some way to bring back to but it'll be prob like 15 years from now lol
Sang will just be Sanguinor but Bigger, Ferrus idk Big Robot Metal Gear Man
plush mason
they gona turn him into an AI basically and he will hate it
dusk patrol
We’ll see, they’ve said they had a plan for one primarch every five years prior to Covid. Some of this is making up for lost time there.
They’re not interested in rushing things
So idk
storm jungle
they gona turn him into an AI basically and he will hate it
Nah im sure they wont
plush mason
what little i know about Iron Hands is that he will hate what his sons have become
storm jungle
it'll be something machine related 100% but Ferrus and Sang are like last-last
Sang maybe sooner but again dunno
its profits first before logic
dusk patrol
I don’t know if they’ll ever bring either back for one
storm jungle
I don’t know if they’ll ever bring either back for one
Its hard to guess
because like
on one hand
it doesnt make sense
on the other hand
money
so who knows
dusk patrol
Maybe as like a spirit thing
plush mason
always bet on the money
storm jungle
Yeah that
rocky gale
It is money, but it's also hype
storm jungle
like it will be some Marvel/DC bullshit 100% otherwise we'll see
rocky gale
With Sang they'll want to edge that release as long as possible
dusk patrol
But idk, I doubt it. If all they wanted was money they’d be releasing a new primarch every year
storm jungle
For now yeah
plush mason
Mr. Krabs is an archetypical executive
storm jungle
ferrus and dead primarchs are like leagues off atm
the alive ones both loyalist/chaos take priority
plush mason
storm jungle
I assume they will be following the format of Chaos Primarch then Loyalist Primarch, so after Russ its prob Lorgar up next, then Corvus, thats my prediction atm
rocky gale
It's gonna be hype when the "Horus Redeemed" model releases in 5 years
plush mason
thats how it has been
dusk patrol
I’m not even convinced they’re doing all of the ones which are missing, they’re aware of how the narrative matters and build up works and they’ve said they’re also aware of how the more they bring back the less special it is so they wanna be careful with it
storm jungle
Never give full faith to corporations.
We'll see how they handle it first
i dont really care much as long as its largely done "ok" or just Well™️
plush mason
Russ coming back as a mutated super Wulfen that then forces all the space wolves to become Wulfen but still have their sanity and ability to use their weapons would be priceless
storm jungle
Russ coming back as a mutated super Wulfen that then forces all the space wolves...
If hes just 30k Russ But HD im gonna be very sad
i hope they take some mutation liberties
dusk patrol
I have faith that they’re aware of how much the lore and diluting it is bad for their profits more so than releasing whatever character is
storm jungle
but like people will prob not like that lol
having him be human makes him more appleable to buyers
dusk patrol
I think they’ll make him more of a Odin figure/rune priest dude
plush mason
if im being honest i think Dorn is a little more likely than Russ
dusk patrol
Loyalists don’t really have a powerful psyker character like that and it would make for a more interesting Magnus dynamic
dusk patrol
if im being honest i think Dorn is a little more likely than Russ
Hah
No
Get your brain off TTS
plush mason
the Imperial Fists just seem more popular than the space wolves is all
dusk patrol
One sec
plush mason
i might be wrong there idk
storm jungle
if im being honest i think Dorn is a little more likely than Russ
Armies with their own codexes get attention first
dusk patrol
Imperial Fists aren’t even the most popular imperial fists chapter
plush mason
nvm then
storm jungle
yeah lmao
barren prawn
weve been over this VULKAN is coming back next
storm jungle
its why E.Children took like 69 years to get updated
rocky gale
Yea Imperial Fists are pretty low tier popularity
storm jungle
weve been over this VULKAN is coming back next
no thats because GW is RACIST
plush mason
its why E.Children took like 69 years to get updated
i see what you did there
storm jungle
storm jungle
i see what you did there
very allegorical i know
but no like yeah its why they got ignored for so long
dusk patrol
Now this isn’t a set in stone study
barren prawn
GW might be a lot of things but they are also greedy theyll just bring back the primarch that sells the most figures
barren prawn
which is either vulkan or sangui
dusk patrol
rocky gale
Now we wait, see what gets announced for the next preorder
dusk patrol
This is jsut a poll from various events and what not
queen laurel
IRON HANDS DEADLAST LMAO
plush mason
blood ravens in number 2 even all these years later?
barren prawn
IRON HANDS DEADLAST LMAO
still making the list is good enough
dusk patrol
Yeah Iron Hands have generally always been last with RG, WS for 40k
storm jungle
RG, WS and IH sharing their 100th night in the pub drinking
storm jungle
IF is left out of the pub gathering because all they do is spout TTS memes
plush mason
IRON HANDS DEADLAST LMAO
the fact the creator of it even remembered they exist is impressive
storm jungle
anyway fuck Imperial Fists
dusk patrol
30k the numbers change a lot, Iron Hands and WS are way more popular there
storm jungle
30k the numbers change a lot, Iron Hands and WS are way more popular there
I assume thats mostly due to meta stuff
or because people just like tanks
which like
understandable
solid oyster
Damn, so all the mods hang out in this chat
plush mason
the only thing im surprised about is the blood ravens
storm jungle
Damn, so all the mods hang out in this chat
All
Its just me 💀
rocky gale
IH find a way to become OP every edition
dusk patrol
There’s someone at GW who likes us
storm jungle
IH when they arent allowed to bomb a children hospital (their gigachad status has been revoked)
solid oyster
Is rinda Karnak mutating?
dusk patrol
It’s largely I think their chapter theme is easy to make rules for a be good
solid oyster
Because of what she ate
dusk patrol
Toughness, vehicles, firing lines
storm jungle
Because of what she ate
Too much nurgle spinach
dusk patrol
Durable units are strong, more at five
rocky gale
There’s someone at GW who likes us
Every so often that Rogue Intern manages to slip in some rule changes
plush mason
Is rinda Karnak mutating?
that implies she wasnt already mutated
solid oyster
Too much nurgle spinach
So she is mutating right?
storm jungle
Every so often that Rogue Intern manages to slip in some rule changes
those rogue interns cant keep getting away with this
storm jungle
So she is mutating right?
Yeah she is albeit gradually
solid oyster
that implies she wasnt already mutated
Into what
dusk patrol
There’s a couple GW guys who stan Iron Hands I know, but generally I think it’s jsut the chapter theme lends itself well to making rules and so sometimes you get super strong rules.
solid oyster
Also how did rinda survive by her brother didn't
storm jungle
Also how did rinda survive by her brother didn't
Built different.
dusk patrol
If vehicles or Techmarines are strong so are IH, if big boy gunners are so are IH, if into toughness is needed Iron Hands end ups strong
storm jungle
Wasn't he built different too
Idk man some are just liked by Nurgle more than the other
plush mason
i am not sure her taunts about eating us where just ideal jabs, and its a well known fact that cannibalism leads to mutation in 40k
storm jungle
theres a reason she shit-talks her brother when you kill him first
solid oyster
I guess she became stronger because of all the cannibalism
storm jungle
saying he was "always the weakest"
solid oyster
theres a reason she shit-talks her brother when you kill him first
Oh damn
dusk patrol
i am not sure her taunts about eating us where just ideal jabs, and its a well k...
As opposed to irl where it’s jsut delicious
storm jungle
Oh damn
Yeah if you kill her first Rodin is actually upset
she meanwhile "Lmao fucking loser"
solid oyster
saying he was "always the weakest"
What happens if you go the other way around?
solid oyster
she meanwhile "Lmao fucking loser"
Bruh
storm jungle
Yeah
LMAO
ngl IRL-accurate sibling dialogue
trust me i got 3 older brothers, I know
queen laurel
she meanwhile "Lmao fucking loser"
Her brother was a weapon specialist so he spent all of his time making weapons and not gaining those gains
plush mason
they are twins after all
storm jungle
Yeah that too
solid oyster
Rinda sounds like a cunt
solid oyster
Can't wait to end her
plush mason
and Rinda was likely the older one at that
solid oyster
Imagine your only sibling dying and you go like "Lmao fucking loser"
queen laurel
Rodin was basically responsible for a good amount of bio weapons that is being used by the moebians
solid oyster
Rodin was basically responsible for a good amount of bio weapons that is being u...
Bro was a science nerd like me
queen laurel
his specialty in weapons basically made him not adept in physical related tasks
plush mason
Rodin was basically responsible for a good amount of bio weapons that is being u...
a fact he loved to remind us of
solid oyster
It's a shame he didn't survive
queen laurel
like he can shoot your head with amazing accuracy but the moment you go near him and hit his head you win
plush mason
so much toxic gas
solid oyster
Man we really should have turned around and double tapped rinda just to be sure
plush mason
tbf we are lucky we didnt get executed after that shitshow
queen laurel
Why
it was a off the grid mission that wasn't sanctioned by rannick
zola was lucky she even got off mostly without punishment
plush mason
a mission driven by info from a known compromized wyrmwood agent no less
solid oyster
a mission driven by info from a known compromized wyrmwood agent no less
Wait what
plush mason
Zola walked us into a trap knowingly and willingly
solid oyster
Why was that wyrmwood agent compromised
solid oyster
Did they turn traitor
solid oyster
this is all in the mission to kill them btw
Dialogue?
queen laurel
Did they turn traitor
no one knows because it's not specified they were just said to be compromised
queen laurel
it can be many things
solid oyster
What's a wyrmwood btw
plush mason
the spys feeding us intel on the cult and Mobian 6th
storm jungle
^
solid oyster
Ok
storm jungle
its like a moniker given to them
plush mason
the agent in question ether turned traitor or got tortured until they agreed to send us the info
solid oyster
plush mason
oh btw, i got the new class in Inquisitor Martyr, and omg he is short as hell
solid oyster
On top of my list are space Marine 2 and Rogue trader
plush mason
both of them are good
plush mason
Rogue trader is a must if you like CRPGs and or Warhammer
solid oyster
Rogue trader is a must if you like CRPGs and or Warhammer
Why's that
solid oyster
Ok
queen laurel
Yeah it used to be not the best but like it has gotten a lot of f******touch ups
It's very good
queen laurel
How's the ork game
It's aight
solid oyster
Ok
queen laurel
It has some fun moments but it's your generic run of the mill action game
acoustic hinge
i see talk about rogue trader
its a beautiful game
really done well with story telling, and u can mod it
storm jungle
its very based
dusk patrol
More to come hopefully with their success too
Hoping we get other FFG system games
Playing an Inquisitor would be similar but could let them do more
queen laurel
More to come hopefully with their success too
i would love a AOS rpg made by them
queen laurel
Eventually one game will break the AoS barrier
if the warp spiders can escape their fate so can aos
dusk patrol
I expect somewhere down the line we might see an AoS Tide game
rocky gale
we have aos
We don't have AoS Total war
celest dome
TT really isn't appropriate for a post WW1 system, like 40k
dusk patrol
Allegedly they are working on a 40k one, but I imagine it’ll adjust the system a lot
celest dome
I think it'll be very different from what we consider a TW
To the point that it wouldnt be one for the community.
Still think the best idea for a new series would be Grand Mythology.
Public Domain (no IP cost, though research cost)
Easy and interesting lord picks
dusk patrol
Maybe, I think it could work better than people seem to think tbh
dusky scroll
I was digging a bit about Imperium Nihilus.
So, if almost all communication and transportation between the two divided part of the Imperium is cut-off, Imperium can no longer use half of it's previous population for taxation, production, recruitment and everything, right?
dusky scroll
So it's a more consequential tragedy than Horus Heresy?
dusky scroll
They currently work as 2 independent halves
Who leads the darker half (that's aligned with the Imperium, at least in spirit)?
shadow plover
Dante?
dusk patrol
Dante
And sorta the Lion now
But Dante is the official Lord Regent
And the Lion is more interested in just going after traitors
Lord Commander I think, but yeah he leads that side, Guilliman is on the primary side
dusk patrol
So it's a more consequential tragedy than Horus Heresy?
Nihilus is a lot more cut off from itself too and it’s hard to travel around, it’s apparently a commonly floated topic at the Indomitus war tables of just cutting their losses and getting out who they can and abandoning it
dusky scroll
But Dante is the official Lord Regent
Does he have a meaningful grip over the parts he controls?
dusk patrol
As much as he can
Communication is awful and it’s extremely hard to travel around with it
dusky scroll
Maintaining a supply chain of agri world, forge world, hive world etc.
Or, the planets were adapted to become more self sufficient?
dusk patrol
The lion coming back helps but it’s still a shit show
dusk patrol
Maintaining a supply chain of agri world, forge world, hive world etc.
Or, the ...
It depends, but generally on a system level places that could support themselves are OK but long-distance transportation becomes a mess
And is at best much slower
At worst impossible
dusky scroll
Can you go around the great rift?
dusky scroll
Who knows what lies outside the galaxy
Most likely nothing... Space is vast
shell mason
what is a aquila worth?
dusk patrol
Varies, purchasing power isn’t the same everywhere and the don’t even use all the same currency across all worlds
shell mason
Varies, purchasing power isn’t the same everywhere and the don’t even use all th...
broad est
storm jungle
2 Dollars
umbral kraken
Most likely nothing... Space is vast
the answer to "what lies outside the galaxy" is quite literally the opposite of "nothing", the answer is actually "everything else"
storm jungle
thank you witchfinder
THAT WAS A JOKE
In reality a rough estimate would be like...
id say 20-30 bucks? Because like they are literally either silver or golden trinkets
hell even prob higher
it just kinda again as said above depends on the planet
sacred ginkgo
The imperiums economy is so incredibly fucked if you tried to enforce a standard currency you would lose more of it
shell mason
THAT WAS A JOKE
no yous a mod
arctic talon
You would lose more of it
Well yeah
shell mason
it's very much true
arctic talon
You would lose more of it
Oh also 9/11 in Metaphor 
shell mason
it's two dollars
sacred ginkgo
Which one
sacred ginkgo
Oh the day
sacred ginkgo
I don’t remember the days as much as with persona
What a non earth calendar does to me
arctic talon
Idelsday
storm jungle
Oh also 9/11 in Metaphor <:smarf:966438427866304512>
Well
sacred ginkgo
You’ll have to actually remind me what happens then
arctic talon
You’ll have to actually remind me what happens then
||Louis comes back to life||
Lul
sacred ginkgo
Oh that happens then
Ok
I remember the order stuff happens but there are no seasons to remember the months by
arctic talon
This is true
sacred ginkgo
The game also happens across 4 months instead of 9-10
sacred ginkgo
I do think it’s really funny that they actually decide to escalate the plot for real on that date
arctic talon
I do think it’s really funny that they actually decide to escalate the plot for ...
Yeah
Also Strohl breaks the ATLUS best friend trope
By actually being smart and not socially inept
arctic talon
Husband material
arctic talon
Mhm
Also ||basillio|| is the best “late addition” party member they’ve done
By far
sacred ginkgo
My only issue with him is he is a bit too perfect
arctic talon
Strohl?
sacred ginkgo
Yes
arctic talon
Imo he very much has an ego
But he loses it like
After the heismay stuff
So yeah he does end up too perfect huh
arctic talon
I very much thought he was gona be a generic very snooty spoiled noble initially
But no
sacred ginkgo
He gets his ego shredded by everything being fucked and introspection on his parents
I liked the change of perspective he had on them
arctic talon
Yeah
arctic talon
I liked the change of perspective he had on them
Oh also the bonds are way better then social links imo
Just in terms of format
8 levels + always leveling up + the general “format” of the events works way better
You don’t get filler levels
Like you did with social links where an entire level is basically a reaction to what happened the last one
young pecan
Also Strohl breaks the ATLUS best friend trope
Ryuji being reduced to a unlikable idiot instead of the well-designed idiot that he should have been outside of his story
arctic talon
Ryuji being reduced to a unlikable idiot instead of the well-designed idiot that...
Ryuji is likable imo
But he’s still worse then Junpei and Yosuke for Persona best friends
charred jewel
But he’s still worse then Junpei and Yosuke for Persona best friends
If you had to have one UFC fighter write a full length imperial guard novel. Who would it be?
Also. Of all the BL authors. Which ones have backgrounds in military/police/sports?
arctic talon
If you had to have one UFC fighter write a full length imperial guard novel. Who...
Idfk lol
I don’t watch UFC
arctic talon
Idk
crystal forum
fighting looks cool but i dont want to live with brain damage
arctic talon
One of them is a doctor apparently
crystal forum
i thought that was a football player
arctic talon
This showed up in my Twitter feed
In any case
Idk I don’t watch UFC
In fact I don’t watch many sports in general
I watch boring stuff like baseball
storm jungle
This showed up in my Twitter feed
https://bloodyelbow.com/2024/11/24/im-a-docto...
also literally Hannah Montanna situation
paper haven
Sports ball, yeah! Do a goal.
Win the thing.
arctic talon
True we should bring back gladiatorial matches
storm jungle
LOL
arctic talon
The children yearn for blood
storm jungle
And make homeless people fight
or get mauled by tigers
that'll help the economy
right
paper haven
Riot when your team either wins or looses, depending on how often that happens
arctic talon
And make homeless people fight
I can already get that for free when I go to the poor side of town
paper haven
Jake Paul went against Mike Tyson recently.
People seemed excited about that.
charred jewel
Jake Paul went against Mike Tyson recently.
People seemed excited about that.
That enraged me
arctic talon
CHRIST
"...you bet on Shiraza as SOLE SURVIVOR, and that Ionian kid--sure he's missing an arm--but he ain't dead. Makes him a survivor, see? 'Course, you could always double down..."
storm jungle
as most people expected
charred jewel
Jake Paul is a gargantuan ass bitch
arctic talon
ngl I don't know what people were expecting
charred jewel
Taking on a 58 year old Tyson
arctic talon
Mike Tyson is an old ass man now
charred jewel
ngl I don't know what people were expecting
Tyson held back
arctic talon
Well yeah
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
but he's also old
charred jewel
He signed a contract clause to not go after Jake and knockdown/KO him
arctic talon
in any case I'm not sure what people were expecting
it was clearly
to make a ton of cash
storm jungle
I mean
arctic talon
charred jewel
For him to have the footwork to avoid 80% of Jake’s punches. Yet not go after him. That doesn’t line up
arctic talon
again it was a scheme to make money
paper haven
and like, rigged
Rigged? Come on, clearly Jake Paul has the skill and strength to overcome a man who was legendary for knocking people's heads off their shoulders.
I mean, sure, Mike slapped Jake that one time, implying he could have laid him out at any moment
storm jungle
Mike was always kind of a sellout so i wasnt too surprised
storm jungle
Rigged? Come on, clearly Jake Paul has the skill and strength to overcome a man ...
LMAO SHUT UP
charred jewel
Jake Paul is also mediocre and below average. Considering he has access to the world’s best trainers. And the most powerful PEDs that most Olympic athletes could only dream of attaining. And yet he still struggles against late 30s retired messed up MMA fighters and the almighty Tyson “love island” fury
crystal forum
baseball is wacky as hell
storm jungle
Jake Paul is also mediocre and below average. Considering he has access to the w...
Dont even mention his name at this point honestly
guy is a walking NPC
your average mourningstar guardsman has more personality
paper haven
Money can't make greatness
A bit of a rarity for me, but Flashgitz did a video on the fight before it came out and I actually enjoyed it.
crystal forum
people forgetting that internet drama is just as obsessive as being a super dedicated fan
crystal forum
it's all the same sort of famous people gossip shit you'd find in a magazine 10 years ago
charred jewel
Mike was always kind of a sellout so i wasnt too surprised
He ducked:
George Foreman second wave
David Tua
Ike ibeabuichi
Ray Mercer
Johnny Nelson
Waited on Morrison and fight was finalizing as he got super AIDs
dusk patrol
People were watching hoping Tyson was gonna snap and clobber him.
Instead they both made a shitload of money and we got to see Mikes ass
charred jewel
Also ducked Tim Witherspoon
paper haven
I hope the money was worth it.
I mean, obviously, it was.
charred jewel
He made 20 mil. Same amount of money he made fighting blown-up light heavyweight Spinks
storm jungle
Instead they both made a shitload of money and we got to see Mikes ass
Once again people paying for streaming for stuff like this is peak meme
rose thorn
Hey chat what are we talkin about
glossy pivot
in 40k are there humans with black colored eyes?
just wondering if the black colored eyes make sense on my ig character
sacred ginkgo
Completely black eyes happen a lot as a result of generic mutations
glossy pivot
ooo
arctic talon
in 40k are there humans with black colored eyes?
yep, would fall into the bounds of acceptable mutations
Voidborn often have them
glossy pivot
awesome
dusk patrol
Once again people paying for streaming for stuff like this is peak meme
Tbf it was also just on Netflix
That’s a big reason it got such numbers
storm jungle
Tbf it was also just on Netflix
Yeah and it lagged/bugged out in the actual fight
which ngl is even funnier
im very glad i just slept and looked u pthe results later lol
dusk patrol
I tried to watch a bit, I’m glad they’re testing it for when WWE goes to Netflix though
But I don’t they’ll reach that level of traffic again
storm jungle
Prob not but you never know I guess
paper haven
If I recall, void born tend to have pupils that are so big that it almost looks like their eyes are fully black.
storm jungle
trying to get my self to like eldar
Eldar get no love in lore stick to AoS
army-wise idk i dont do tabletop
rose thorn
Eldar get no love in lore stick to AoS
okay ill stick with sylvaneth pirate elves
whats antoehr elf i like
storm jungle
rose thorn
idk dok but i wouldnt have an army of them
a partner of mine does
I’m excited for them to get a regiment of renown
storm jungle
Their books are not half bad
they are just kinda one note because they suffer from the syndrome of "we made this from 1 WHF unit"
crystal forum
@rose thorn hows your space private simulator going
rose thorn
<@407994636167282701> hows your space private simulator going
Huh? OH finals are soon so I’ve been busy w/ that
crystal forum
aaah ok
dusky scroll
the answer to "what lies outside the galaxy" is quite literally the opposite of ...
True.
In 40k context, as far as I know, the only things that mentioned to exist/have existed outside of the galaxy are:
- Tyranid Hivemind
- Silent King in self-exile
are there anything else?
low gazelle
In 40k context, as far as I know, the only things that mentioned to exist/have e...
I thought it was just the tyranid hivemind
Also is there just a giant Tyranid thats the main hivemind
past onyx
Also is there just a giant Tyranid thats the main hivemind
Not that I ever recall hearing about. More like the gestalt consciousness of trillions of organisms.
past onyx
So theres really no stopping them
You can "stop" them like you stop an infection. You might not ever completely eradicate it, just like orc spores, but you can keep it under control.
Might be easier too for the Tyranids, given how hard it seemingly is for them to put a bioship from the surface of the planet into orbit. Therefore, you just have to blow up their big ships, which is a lot easier compared to killing every last organism.
Unlike the Orcs which have better ability from getting from the surface of a planet into orbit and into interstellar travel.
thick cedar
I read that alpha level psykers have basically apocalyptic tier powers. What exactly can they do?
vagrant fox
Besides exploding into daemons, depends on what their powers are oriented towards. The Burning Princess, shockingly a pyromancer, could burn through voidship armour. Malcador hid the moon Titan from reality
dusk patrol
I read that alpha level psykers have basically apocalyptic tier powers. What exa...
It depends on the psyker and what they’re good at
Some have much wider span of powers
Some hyper specialize
opaque coyote
I read that alpha level psykers have basically apocalyptic tier powers. What exa...
Depends, but generally they are pretty powerful.
dusk patrol
So like an Alpha Psyker with telepathic focus could maybe mind control whole cities or planets
opaque coyote
And by that I mean if you're on their shitlist. You probably should write your last will and testament now
thick cedar
what about one that really likes lightning?
opaque coyote
what about one that really likes lightning?
technically under Biomancy
dusk patrol
Massive warp storms
opaque coyote
also that
technically psykers can much more than just spells
the problem is that uh usually those that do kinda...
get possessed
so they stick to spells primarily because it's easier
it's easier to think of a solid thing with steps rather than idk
smashing a Space Marine with a building sized bowl of ice cream
dusk patrol
Like the Space Wolves chief librarian Njall can summon massive ice storms which strip ceramite and rend vehicles. And he’s probably not even alpha level.
dusk patrol
Anyways, basically whatever you want or is called for
Alpha level is super rare
Malcador, Magnus, Big E were all off the scale anyways
opaque coyote
Malcador, Magnus, Big E were all off the scale anyways
basically unless if they're fighting chaos gods
or something powerfully chaos adjacent
they're gonna no diff
dusk patrol
I don’t really think you can rate daemons on the scale
opaque coyote
daemons are kinda weird
dusk patrol
They have levels of power and all that but generally the ones that are psykers are just
It fits better for beings in the materium
crystal forum
i wonder if any main character of 40k has a master crafted autogun
queen laurel
I don’t really think you can rate daemons on the scale
yeah being a powerful psyker will only help so much till Skarbrand powers through your magic and caves in your head
or Rotigus turning the ground beneath you into a rotting pus swamp
arctic talon
i wonder if any main character of 40k has a master crafted autogun
Sly Marbo
well
he's not a main character
he is a named one
arctic talon
Autopistol
queen laurel
You mean those basic a** ballistic weapons that won't even scratch
Like a good chunnk of the things that the imperium fights?
dusky scroll
I don't understand this short-
https://youtu.be/ojkkwxXlTfw?si=0r7OuidloyW8WZdA
What happened to these Orks?
sacred ginkgo
I don't understand this short-
https://youtu.be/ojkkwxXlTfw?si=0r7OuidloyW8WZdA...
Nothing, this never happened
dusky scroll
Nothing, this never happened
What... so that youtuber just pulled it out of their ass?!
crystal forum
Sly Marbo
that's not an autogun
there's a ton of special autopistols
autopistols for some reason are as good as laspistols
but autoguns are supposedly shittier thab lasguns
plush mason
a laspistol likely doesnt hit with the impact of a 50 cal
speaking of autopistols, is a ripper just an smg or something?
queen laurel
speaking of autopistols, is a ripper just an smg or something?
you mean the ripper guns?
plush mason
no the ripper autopistols
queen laurel
no the ripper autopistols
oh then yes
dapper gyro
The reason that it's called heavy laspistol because it is a pistol that has the same performance as a las rifle.
But then depending on the models, and especially authors, the power of the weapons varie greatly.
Like autogun is about as strong, if not stronger in some case than lasgun, but "shittier" because of ammo capacity and reliability.
lunar crag
In 40k chaos has their own symbol for their worship of the four chaos gods so i wonder does the imperial cult in the imperium have a all encompassing symbol that represents their religion?
plush mason
the aquila
the aquila represents the imperium as a whole and thus is one of the most sacred symbols in all of the imperium's iconography its also the most universal which is why it is effectively the imperium's version of the 8 pointed star of chaos undivided
opaque coyote
Like autogun is about as strong, if not stronger in some case than lasgun, but "...
I like to think that
The Lasgun is known for having a power setting and the ability to charge in some cases
So basically
I think that the varied effectiveness just depends on the power output setting or whatever
With higher output costing more ammo but being more powerful
celest dome
Not sure if the Ripper Pistol really is an SMG
plush mason
kinda looks like a machine pistol
celest dome
Make me think more of those sort of pistols
past onyx
Not sure if the Ripper Pistol really is an SMG
There's not really a line between SMG and auto pistol. The best dividing line might be if it has a shoulder stock or not.
opaque coyote
Not sure if the Ripper Pistol really is an SMG
Kinda reminds me of the 10mm from Fallout
dapper gyro
With higher output costing more ammo but being more powerful
That's a good point. The lasgun is more versatile overall with that feature.
thin turret
Is there any Harlequins that doesn't smile all the time?
acoustic hinge
Didn’t they get removed
shell mason
the hell am I looking at?
acoustic hinge
Rip harlequins
celest dome
Is there any Harlequins that doesn't smile all the time?
There used to be Harlequin Mimes.
I suppose those didn't have smiles
storm jungle
Didn’t they get removed
No?
storm jungle
Is there any Harlequins that doesn't smile all the time?
If you check out the minis yes. All their masks show different emotions.
their masks are also not solid and can shift/change expressions too
acoustic hinge
They aren’t a faction in 10th?
storm jungle
I mean they are still in the setting
storm jungle
🫵
acoustic hinge
They got removed
thin turret
their masks are also not solid and can shift/change expressions too
oh wait really? that's kinda make it more interesting
storm jungle
oh wait really? that's kinda make it more interesting
Yeah they are stage players as much as warriors after all, gotta adapt to the roles they play
acoustic hinge
Effectively just a ally army now
storm jungle
yeah which is what they always kinda been in the lore as well
with units that small in number i guess it makes sense on tabletop
acoustic hinge
I don’t remember how they played in the tabletop, very niche faction to play
I’m happy I can field a full mech suit army in 10th
Back in the day the mech used to be able to jump out of damage suits in old editions
storm jungle
Yeah it constantly flactuates
queen laurel
Yeah it constantly flactuates
hey dils good news i am playing vermintide 2 and I want you to guess what Bardin class I picked
tell me what class would an aggressive moron like me play
storm jungle
lmao
dusk patrol
THAT ONES MIIIIIINNNNNEEEE
storm jungle
DAWRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
im recently getting back into VT2 as well and my friend is also maining Slayer so not surprised lol
acoustic hinge
Add versus in dt
dusk patrol
Eventually probably tbh
acoustic hinge
Few years
dusk patrol
Give it uh
acoustic hinge
Let them cook
dusk patrol
4-5 more years
storm jungle
Best part of Versus
the human team is not having fun
but i am spamming bombs
sorry guys
queen laurel
the human team is not having fun
i watched a bardin spin botting in a versus game lmao
dusk patrol
Yeah it’s….well at least it’s there now
queen laurel
Yeah it’s….well at least it’s there now
versus is one of those things where you need to turn off your brain and try to have fun in
dusk patrol
Now chop chop, we haven’t gotten every VT1 map imported yet
storm jungle
Yeah agreed
like imo Versus is absolutely wasted dev time
but hey at least i get to throw sarin gas
umbral kraken
versus is basically a salt generator
dusk patrol
I want the Death on the Reik missions imported already
celest dome
I hope Quickpaw reveal/tease a new weapon soon
idle knoll
I want the Death on the Reik missions imported already
stormfiend chieftain from stormdorf is an absoluteshadowbanned banger I want it in vt2
storm jungle
Stormdorf was such a good pack
but im absolutely biased because i love maps where it thunderstorms
storm jungle
although i never played it
tough haven
rocky gale
Me entering the symposium holding a frog “behold an Ork”
tough haven
Me entering the symposium holding a frog “behold an Ork”
Can it fight?
If no, that’s a snotling or grot
rocky gale
Me entering the symposium holding a teenage mutant ninja turtle “behold an Ork”
shell mason
rose thorn
Gonna be 100% real here, I don’t like the new Krieg models (brood brother fan)
shell mason
Gonna be 100% real here, I don’t like the new Krieg models (brood brother fan)
what do they look like?
rose thorn
what do they look like?
shell mason
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/csbikvdh/world-championships-...
its just shows they're warhorses
rose thorn
I still have my old krieg minis
Which ones?
shell mason
Which ones?
ork vs veteran skim kit
shell mason
no
shell mason
mag
rose thorn
What?
rose thorn
?
rose thorn
What?
shell mason
goonhammer
rose thorn
What about it
rose thorn
Goonhammer is the most popular community ran Warhammer websites
Spanning from army overviews, painting guides, comp
shell mason
brother
queen laurel
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
you really expect her to get the joke?
rose thorn
It covers every warhammer game
shell mason
im not here for the hoopla
acoustic hinge
New korps look great
shell mason
you really expect her to get the joke?
Bulgur gets it
rose thorn
New korps look great
Ye I am just a hater
shell mason
Mag come on man, fix yaself
rose thorn
I don’t like krieg or guard really
shell mason
the models look nice
shell mason
I don’t like krieg or guard really
okay fuck you
rose thorn
I like brood brothers
queen laurel
Mag come on man, fix yaself
dude just let her be like literally
it's not that deep it's just an unfunny joke
rose thorn
Because funny terrorists
queen laurel
and a differing opinion
rose thorn
okay fuck you
Lmao
queen laurel
sarcasm bulgur
If that's your sarcasm then abbadon is the kindest person i know
rose thorn
I was honestly expecting krieg to get an upgrade sprue
shell mason
If that's your sarcasm then abbadon is the kindest person i know
gang shit
rose thorn
I’m the style of the Cadia upgrade sprue
rose thorn
Still waiting for gw to release the brood brother sprue by it self
shell mason
after like a year or two
rose thorn
after like a year or two
It’s a 40k army box it’s not gonna last long
And it’s a guard box
Those get scalped to hell
rose thorn
I wonder if normal guard will get anything
shell mason
Its a waiting game
for all intents and purposes I still have to paint my orks, dg, and typhus
rose thorn
According to an uncreditable YouTuber eldar is supposed to get more stuff too
Apparently more corsairs?
rose thorn
But he didn’t provide any sources or credited anyone
I would unironically buy a Corsair army box
I LOVE corsairs
Yarrr…
rose thorn
So this is the lady that was before archeon
shell mason
ok?
rose thorn
Welp, looks like a chaos lord model to me
acoustic hinge
queen laurel
She was revealed in lore a while ago thsi was the first time we saw the model
She actually looks very great
shell mason
figured
rose thorn
She actually looks very great
Yee, waiting for my YouTube feed to complain about women being in warhammer
But I’ll probably use her as a chaos lord if I start S2D
acoustic hinge
came out in white dwarf 99 in the 1980's for £5 u could get both minis
queen laurel
Yee, waiting for my YouTube feed to complain about women being in warhammer
Give it a few days
acoustic hinge
i cant rememebr their names
rose thorn
came out in white dwarf 99 in the 1980's for £5 u could get both minis
What’s when 40k was called rogue trader adventure right?
rose thorn
I’d like to see these remade in the modern day for an anniversary
rose thorn
Loving these space pirate models
gray umbra
warriors of chaos look so cool
opaque coyote
https://tenor.com/view/bardin-slayer-vermintide-gif-24272560
Minor inconvenience to dawri kind?
I MUST KILL MYSELF.
rose thorn
warriors of chaos look so cool
Yee, I might pick up slaves to darkness next year
@arctic talon hey my partner used the list you sent and beat her cousins meta list
(Pretty sure it’s meta)
It looked like that one scion list
My bad it wasn’t the scions list
opaque coyote
Twitter
wintry scarab
Are there any space marines that wear hats? Are there any space marine hats?
storm jungle
celest dome
Don't think there are any we know of
But like it's really not outlandish, they must exist somewhere
wintry scarab
I could totally picture a raptor with a beret
arctic talon
<@255478624851853312> hey my partner used the list you sent and beat her cousins...
I’m so good at listbuilding/j
rose thorn
<a:hakitayippee:1091044300009250826>
She used the orbital bombardment faction and shut down the guardsmen all game
rocky gale
rose thorn
Yooo
she would make a good chaos lord for aos, the current one is so trash
love these models
green loom
Right one will make a pretty baller inquisitor with a bit of bashing
rocky gale
They won’t give you a Bequin model, so make one yourself
outer wave
love these models
Ogre in 40k.....
rose thorn
:D?
dusk patrol
If only there was a name for such individuals….
rose thorn
possibly located in the guard codex
acoustic hinge
OI YA GITZ, TOO MUCH LEARNING MORE FIGHTING!
outer wave
No no guys, this isn't an Ogryn.... it's an Ogre in 40k....
That is immediately, automatically, absolutely, 100 percent better
spare osprey
Are there any space marines that wear hats? Are there any space marine hats?
I wish there were now
hazy cedar
I love how goofy the 1st edition figures could be
hallow plover
They are accurate
gray umbra
the good old days
acoustic hinge
4th was my favourite
acoustic hinge
i rememebr my brother have 90's box sets
misty vector
they got like mike wazowski body structures
young pecan
SPESS MUHREENS :D
hazy cedar
HURR DURR HODOR
storm jungle
You may not like it
Holy shit its a dreadnaught
outer wave
Holy shit its a dreadnaught
Imagine if Dreadnoughts could curl up into a ball and roll over everything
That'd make them so much cooler
storm jungle
not wrong at all
sour hornet
What armor do corsairs wear?
arctic talon
Eldar armor
Mesh armor
Iirc
better then flak, marginally worse then carapace
But far more mobile
sour hornet
pretty drippy I'm ngl
but I am surprised it's just mesh armor
how reliably can it stop lasbolts?
arctic talon
but I am surprised it's just mesh armor
It’s not imperial mesh armor
arctic talon
how reliably can it stop lasbolts?
About as well as carapace
crystal forum
mesh armour sounds like the kind of shit authors use because carapace is too boring for them
arctic talon
mesh armour sounds like the kind of shit authors use because carapace is too bor...
Mesh armor for the imperium is worse then flak but is lighter
crystal forum
why tf would anybody use something worse than flak
it's already like the worst armour in the galaxy
crystal forum
isn't that the defining trait of flak
flak can be kevlar or some sort of plate carrier
krieg flak is just a uniform
flak is already pretty light
sour hornet
Why is it called mesh armor when it's very solid looking?
It looks more like aspect armor than anything
arctic talon
Why is it called mesh armor when it's very solid looking?
Because it is still made out of a bunch of tiny interlinking bits
That’s why it’s so flexible
It’s just that eldar tech is good enough that these bits are solid, durable and have pretty much no gaps you can exploit like with normal mesh armor
Due to multiple layers
storm jungle
What armor do corsairs wear?
Largely wraithbone
its pretty sturdy enough to stop a lasbolt but eldar also got other shit like starmetal among some more alienword-metalname things thats usually always better than imperial stuff
crystal forum
It’s just that eldar tech is good enough that these bits are solid, durable and ...
again how is this more durable than flak
less
dusk patrol
Because I said so
crystal forum
less durable
crystal forum
i didn't know imperial even had mesh
arctic talon
It’s pretty popular with PDF forces and for some regiments
But it’s generally inferior to flak
crystal forum
bruh i bet by mesh they literally mean chainmail or some shit
"it's mesh armour trust me"
arctic talon
💀
Quartermaster trying to convince a guardsman this piece of literal rusted chain mail is flak armor
crystal forum
it's even better than flak!
storm jungle
bruh i bet by mesh they literally mean chainmail or some shit
Thats literally what it is yeah
i forgot if its the new RPG or the older
crystal forum
it's called mesh for a reason private
dapper gyro
The other name they used for it is "Bodyglove".
dusk patrol
I mean the Maulers in Darktide literally have chain mail under their carapace plating
crystal forum
when you think the guard is cheap but the ones we usually see are supposed to be the cream of the crop
dusk patrol
And around it
dapper gyro
Imperium has a few different kind of bodyglove.
crystal forum
like the bar goes so, so far down
dusk patrol
It can just be space chainmail too
dapper gyro
Like each cultist and temple assassin have a diffent kind of mesh armour based on their activity
crystal forum
you know, i see so many bodygloves in rogue trader yet i have rarely ever seen one in lore
dusk patrol
All marines have one on
crystal forum
well yeah that's space marines
dapper gyro
Then some rogue traders in the lore have suits that are everything combined.
arctic talon
it looks like this in Imperium maledictum
crystal forum
im talking humans
arctic talon
im talking humans
Offico assasinorum members
though their body gloves are special
Oh
Actually I got one of a normal human
one moment
crystal forum
that's way too specialized for the amount we find in game
dusk patrol
crystal forum
it looks like this in Imperium maledictum
that looks like scale armour
dusk patrol
its just padding
Fake fan smh
arctic talon
that's way too specialized for the amount we find in game
the game uses bodyglove in rogue trader as a catch all term tbh
crystal forum
true
arctic talon
but there's a normal human in a body glove
dapper gyro
Eversor's assassin bodyglove is more effective than flak armour
dusk patrol
The assassin body gloves are actually sprayed on
And are a special material which is removed after the mission
crystal forum
if an elite imperial unit doesn't have something more durable than flak then idk what they're doing
dapper gyro
Then you have Culexus suit, which has force shield
dusk patrol
Assassins also work on the idea of “don’t get hit”
dapper gyro
The assassin body gloves are actually sprayed on
That's old lore, I think it is reconnected a long time ago.
dusk patrol
It shows up in Kingmaker too
crystal forum
monthly reference to kingmaker
arctic talon
or at least we never get to see it described putting on his bodyglove
dusk patrol
They’re versatile
arctic talon
we just get him obesessing over his gun instead
dapper gyro
Because each suit is gene coded, they can't even give the suit to someone else, which mean the suit is intended to be reuseable.
dusk patrol
That doesn’t mean that at all
crystal forum
if i was given the equivalent of an intervention on steroids i'd fall in love with it too