40k-lore-chat

[shadow plover]

War Machine also used metal models for a long while

[dusk patrol]

That would never work

Now

Maybe it but medieval fantasy

That might work

[arctic talon]

Unironicially the move to 3d printing sort of killed the game

[rose thorn]

wait what does ameirca nto being colonized

do for the lor

[arctic talon]

Uh

[spring cairn]

no borgir

[arctic talon]

The USA doesn’t exist

For one

[dusk patrol]

It’s not a factor

[arctic talon]

And a bunch of other stuff

Yeah

[shadow plover]

kinda but afaik mostly the new edition rules set killed it totally

[dusk patrol]

The gates to hell opened up 800 years ago and it’s WW1 era

[rose thorn]

oh so no indiginous ameircna army damn

[languid meadow]

I wonder if they'll do any factions for Asia

[arctic talon]

I mean maybe someday in the future

[dusk patrol]

It heavily fucked with humanities growth and killed a ton of people

[viral halo]

You know what game is cheap and made in America?

[arctic talon]

ottoman

[viral halo]

Battletech baby hell yea

[rose thorn]

id actually play if we get that and its not hyper racist

[shadow plover]

the native folk are still active at the Americas, pushed back a couple hell invasions too

[rose thorn]

or its nude circle jerk

[opaque coyote]

It seems that at least according to the art

Humanity's tech is more than actual WW1 era

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[dusk patrol]

It’s got magic and stuff

[opaque coyote]

But also lesser in some other areas

[arctic talon]

I think the gates to hell and magic being real

Would accelerate the time table on technological development

[dusk patrol]

They focused a lot more on weapons of war and stuff

[rose thorn]

where do the people who make TC live?

[arctic talon]

Oh also the Spanish trade with the “new world”

[dusk patrol]

Also you know it’s cool

Don’t think about it too hard

[languid meadow]

I mean in 1899 the church went to space so like we are in the realm for some goofiness with tech

[arctic talon]

USA California

Iirc

[shadow plover]

the main artist is from there, but the game designer is Finnish

[rose thorn]

mmmm california hmmm (im from the mid west)

[arctic talon]

Yeah that

[arctic talon]

Europeans make better war games anyways lul

[shadow plover]

quite

[rose thorn]

they have first hand experience

[arctic talon]

💀

[shadow plover]

also the Finnish dude is the guy behind Mordheim rule set

[rose thorn]

I WAS REFFERING TO WW2

SORRY

NTO

LIKE ANY OF THE CURRENT WARS

[dusk patrol]

I mean they’ve had more than that

And still do

[rose thorn]

yeah but america has never been invaded lmao

[languid meadow]

Sir the Draconis assault force has been destroyed

https://tenor.com/view/luna-cat-shaking-head-gif-13593506101986476598

[dusk patrol]

We have been invaded technically

But not with a ton of success

[arctic talon]

British Canada and Mexico

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

And not for awhile

[languid meadow]

Japan also technically invaded US soil

[arctic talon]

They did burn down the White House

For Canada

[dusk patrol]

I don’t really count one dude in a balloon

[languid meadow]

No

[rose thorn]

We don’t count Hawaii

[languid meadow]

the Aleutian islands

[rose thorn]

Oh

[dusk patrol]

We’re talking mainland

If we’re including others then it’s a lot wider

Philippines would count then technically too

[rose thorn]

70% sure Pearl Harbor is considered a terrorist attack

[dusk patrol]

Not really

It had a clear military goal

[rose thorn]

Legit forgot the Canadian war was a thing

[dusk patrol]

It failed in being decisive enough

War of 1812 is weird

We won cause a hurricane

[languid meadow]

Most draws of draws a war can achieve

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[dusk patrol]

It’s a very silly conflict

[storm jungle]

Its better at invading and losing

which admittedly is funnier

kid named IED cellphone

[rose thorn]

Losing to countries without a stable government*

[arctic talon]

It’s for starting a war

Tbh

Not really terrorism

[storm jungle]

yeah pearl harbor was more a unprecended military attack or whatever

[rose thorn]

Yeah idk, I learned it didn’t count because America wasn’t at war

[languid meadow]

PH was just an illegal attack since no declaration was given before the attack

[arctic talon]

Which has the goal of either A. Causing terror with no real strategic goal or B. Causing political change with violence

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

Japans declaration of war

[rose thorn]

America #1 we never been invaded baby

[arctic talon]

Was supposed to happen simultaneously

Akshully

But uh

[storm jungle]

Japan played too much total war

[arctic talon]

The telegraph malfunctioned

[storm jungle]

💀

[arctic talon]

I’m not joking btw

[storm jungle]

Thats a mood tbh

[arctic talon]

The reason why Japan didn’t declare war was because the telegraph broke for the Japanese ambassador to America

And so when they did declare war

It uh

Well the attack was already underway

LMFAO

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-cabello-boop-banana-phone-bananas-captioned-gif-gif-22151606

[arctic talon]

“Oh by the way we declare war”

[languid meadow]

just an oopsie

[arctic talon]

Tbh

The effect would have been the same either way

One is just more uh “polite”

As polite as killing a bunch of people in a war can get

[storm jungle]

"Nothing personal homie."

[arctic talon]

[dusk patrol]

It worked out in the end

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

“Gib oil pls”

“No”

[shadow plover]

Wild to think Ben Affleck lived through that

[storm jungle]

SHUT UP

[shadow plover]

[dusk patrol]

And then he had to raise his friends kid

Whomp whomp

[storm jungle]

Kids

already an instant loss

[languid meadow]

Rereading TC lore and it's both hilarious and horrifying, "1477 – The City of Argos is taken by God and it is no
more." Like it sounds hilarious but at the same time... like damn. (It prob means the forces of god took and raised the city)

[shadow plover]

also nukes are probably a thing already

[arctic talon]

the racist kid is Metaphor is literally like one of the most accurate to life kids I’ve ever seen in a game

[dusk patrol]

He did get to bang Kate Beckinsdale though so I’d call it a draw

[rose thorn]

Why is it called a ww1 game anyway?

[shadow plover]

the og Antioch was probably erased by one

[arctic talon]

Except instead of calling me ching chong

[rose thorn]

If it’s long after ww1?

[languid meadow]

it takes place in 1914

[shadow plover]

because Trench warfare

[arctic talon]

They just insult me with in universe racist things instead

[dusk patrol]

It’s not

[arctic talon]

It’s in 1914

Or like

[dusk patrol]

The hell invasion took place during the crusade era

[arctic talon]

A year before?

[rose thorn]

I thought it happened 800 years after hell took the planet?

[dusk patrol]

And the current timeline is 800 years later

[rose thorn]

Or something

[languid meadow]

the esthetics are based off of WW1 plus like a billion other things

[arctic talon]

Hell stuff happened during the crusades

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[rose thorn]

Okay so karlfranz was still assassinated or no?

[arctic talon]

Why do the German soldiers heretic legion have world war 2 guns

[shadow plover]

probably not

[dusk patrol]

It’s been 800 years, humanity has changed a lot form our timeline

[arctic talon]

I don’t even think he exists

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/sounds-cool-star-wars-forgotten-ones-gif-16486053

[languid meadow]

The guns are the funniest part for me

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it is.

Although does Hell exist as like

A nation

[languid meadow]

I think I saw a wheellock?

[shadow plover]

there are mentions of couple important historical figures but not the way they were in real life

[opaque coyote]

Or do they just like

[rose thorn]

Okay so it has

Nothing to do with ww1

[arctic talon]

Yeah there is

[dusk patrol]

Kinda

[storm jungle]

Church Space Program

[languid meadow]

and Antioch has the WW2 version of the M1

[opaque coyote]

Also what happened to religion after finding

Like actual

Literal hell

[languid meadow]

also modern subs in the 19th century

[storm jungle]

Same as real life

mostly mass brainwash

I mean uh

[rose thorn]

Don’t they also have British military clothing ?

[storm jungle]

whoops

[arctic talon]

How do you feel about the not Ottomans brazen bull

[storm jungle]

Its hilarious

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I just assumed that tech kinda progressed to WW2 point when "WW1" started

[languid meadow]

NA has a mix of Entente inspired uniforms

[shadow plover]

some technology is already past WW2

[arctic talon]

It’s British and French primarily for the gas mask and helmet

[shadow plover]

like jets

[opaque coyote]

Oh boy hell nukes

[opaque coyote]

WW2 did have jets

Experimental but still

[shadow plover]

yeah but not supersonic

[arctic talon]

I don’t count the shitty German “super” weapon

[rose thorn]

So it’s a ww1 game that has nothing to do with ww1

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[rose thorn]

Gotcha

[arctic talon]

It’s alt history ww1 adjacent

[queen laurel]

All right we ball then

[opaque coyote]

The thing was genuinely pretty cool

The problem is that it used what's essentially acid as fuel

And was basically a death sentence to the pilot

Also ironically

It was TOO fast

[languid meadow]

America also had jets in WW2 tho only 66 were made

[rose thorn]

Someone I knew was really annoyed that it wasnt actually ww1 based back when it first started poking its head around the internet

[opaque coyote]

And due to targeting systems not

Existing in WW2 for jets

[languid meadow]

pretty sure that was teh 161 and not the 262

[rose thorn]

She was a huge gun nerd so

Makes sense I guess

[languid meadow]

the one with the sleds for landing gear

[opaque coyote]

There was a high miss rate because the other planes went too slow

[opaque coyote]

Yeah. Apparently the pilots that didn't get melted really liked the thing tho

[arctic talon]

I really like them except for the basic infantry

[arctic talon]

Which is sad

[arctic talon]

Because I like everything else

[dusk patrol]

The correct choice is New Antioch

[opaque coyote]

Mainly due to a combo of the novelty and the fact that it genuinely was a pretty good plane in terms of how it handled

[arctic talon]

New Antioch or Heretic Legion for me because I’m a basic bitch like how their basic infantry looks

[shadow plover]

All hail Beelzebub

[dusk patrol]

Reee

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/coolcat-cat-fist-bump-cool-cat-fist-gif-24432788

[queen laurel]

I mean of course you like them because they are basically the imperial guard and space marines

[shadow plover]

but I'm literally getting all of them so oh well

[dusk patrol]

I like them cause they look dope as hell

[languid meadow]

I love the HL for the occultism mixing with technology

[opaque coyote]

Knight helmet wielding a claymore while in WW1

[arctic talon]

If the sultanate had alternate heads

With like

[queen laurel]

Sure buddy

[opaque coyote]

My neurons are activated

[arctic talon]

World war 1 era ottoman helmets

I would fuck with it hard

[languid meadow]

Also Death commandos

[arctic talon]

But they don’t

So

[opaque coyote]

My neurons are activated

[queen laurel]

Well then just going to have to wait for the big brute faction and we're good

[opaque coyote]

I fuck with that design

Not literally

[queen laurel]

Because i already have my obligatory cool human faction

[opaque coyote]

But seriously

That looks awesome

My inner child is fucking

Frothing at the mouth right now

[shadow plover]

all the current models have a preview alongside the art that inspired them on their youtube if you're interested https://www.youtube.com/@TrenchCrusadeOfficial/videos

[opaque coyote]

That looks so cool

Holy

[opaque coyote]

God damn even their pfp looks cool aaaaah

[dusk patrol]

Tbh it’s more some factions have examples of this but aren’t all that

The what’s their name

[shadow plover]

it's probably the cover art for the rule book as well

[dusk patrol]

Daemon faction

[languid meadow]

I mean I think the Court is the closest thing

[queen laurel]

Where can i download the rules so that i can read some of the lore snippets or some shit

[dusk patrol]

Court yeah

[shadow plover]

on their website

[arctic talon]

Their discord has the lore primer

[languid meadow]

Larger models make up most of their lineup

[dusk patrol]

There’s not a ton of lore iirc

[shadow plover]

https://www.trenchcrusade.com/playtest-rules

[dusk patrol]

And a lot isn’t explained fully

[rose thorn]

none of the models is like really interesting to me, its not too steam punk or its not enough medival crusades or its not enough 'ooo spooky hell' fo rme to really enjoy any o fthe models

the uh

[shadow plover]

the discord has more lore as well, straight from the creators not yet written to the rules

[rose thorn]

fuckin waht did that MTG guy say

[dusk patrol]

Like iirc Meta-Christs aren’t explained yet

[languid meadow]

I mean the black grail has some spooky hell going on

[arctic talon]

They’re clones of Jesus Christ

[rose thorn]

oh thats nto a meme

[arctic talon]

And mutated

[rose thorn]

thats like waht they are called

[arctic talon]

And there’s like seven of them?

[queen laurel]

Yeah but there aesthetic is not my taste

[arctic talon]

I think that’s all the lore we have on them

[shadow plover]

there's a dozen or so Meta-Christ iirc

[queen laurel]

I'm talking along the lines of like an ork

[arctic talon]

Is it not seven?

[shadow plover]

but they can't make more of them

[queen laurel]

Or you know a giant brute thingy that doesn't look too ridiculous

[rose thorn]

this looks like every single chaos warrior proxy model ever

[queen laurel]

Ogres, giants stuff like that

[dusk patrol]

Implying Orcs don’t look ridiculous

[queen laurel]

Yes that it looks too chaos for me

[queen laurel]

Compared to the court of the seven headed serpent?

Yeah they don't look as ridiculous

S*** looks like it belongs in elden ring

[viral halo]

damn the trench crusade kickstarter made like 4 million dollars

[shadow plover]

The discord at least throws around the number ten as the amount of them

[rose thorn]

literally googled chaos warrior proxy and found 15 things that look exactly liek taht army

[arctic talon]

My bad then

[languid meadow]

Amalgam my beloved

[shadow plover]

the 7 came from the lore snippet where the 7th was the one that gave one of the units their powers iirc

[dusk patrol]

There’s a lot of sevens too for obvious reasons

[rose thorn]

~~my partner lieks that faction and is getting it so i wont say anything ~~

[dusk patrol]

Yeah they hugely expanded the scope

Although they’ve said they’re not gonna rush stuff

Trying to take it slow and get stuff done before promising a bunch more

[rose thorn]

ive seen too many kickstarter minature wargames completley flob that its hard for me to have any hope for htem tbh

[queen laurel]

Holy s*** a kickstarter that takes things slow and steady?

[rose thorn]

sadly

[dusk patrol]

But not like

Star Citizen slow

[opaque coyote]

Dw guys

[queen laurel]

Hey at least they know what they're doing so far

[opaque coyote]

It will release in 2035 trust

[languid meadow]

just another 10k please

[opaque coyote]

[dusk patrol]

I’m happy with it, hoping it keeps going.

TC that is

[languid meadow]

just another 10k and we'll finish the game

[opaque coyote]

If nothing else

At least the designs look fucking sick

[dusk patrol]

Star Citizen well, I didn’t pay for anything so fuck if I care

[viral halo]

Star Citizen is a roach motel for money

[dusk patrol]

Maybe one day I’ll reap some fruits from the most expensive game of all time

[opaque coyote]

Seriously I am genuinely gonna use them for inspiration

[storm jungle]

wasnt Star Citizen that bethesda game

[languid meadow]

no

[arctic talon]

No

[viral halo]

Did you guys know that runescape has a tabletop miniature game?

[opaque coyote]

Nah even worse

[rose thorn]

no

[languid meadow]

Starfield is the Bethesda game

[storm jungle]

ah yes

[dusk patrol]

That doesn’t shock me

[storm jungle]

Star(generic-name)

my bad

[opaque coyote]

Star ass

[rose thorn]

oly shit it does

[opaque coyote]

[dusk patrol]

I try to avoid anything RuneScape, it makes me nostalgic and I can’t go back to that

[rose thorn]

oh

[viral halo]

The halo one also comes out on saturday

[opaque coyote]

I am very mature trust

[rose thorn]

the second wave actually!

[dusk patrol]

Too much of a time sink and I feel like I missed out on a lot of stuff

[arctic talon]

The halo one isn’t very interesting rules wise imo

[queen laurel]

Star wars and star trek fans are not happy with that one Dils

[dusk patrol]

Yeah the Halo one is very basic

[arctic talon]

Oh also

Curse of pvc plastic

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Star Wars and Star Trek were actually from a time period where that wasn't generic

[arctic talon]

Please just use resin fucks sake lol

[opaque coyote]

They basically made Star X sound generic tbh

[arctic talon]

If you’re making a war game with miniatures I need to assemble I’d rather deal with resin

[rose thorn]

teh starwars ttg is good

[arctic talon]

Then pvc plastic

[queen laurel]

Your generic

[rose thorn]

i heard the startrek one is okay

[arctic talon]

Legions?

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

No u

[viral halo]

Legion and shatterpoint both rock

[rose thorn]

ye

[dusk patrol]

We’re in a discord for a game called Darktide based off Warhammer 40,000.

Names are often silly tbh.

We’re just used to them

[rose thorn]

i dont even like starwars and i have the starter box for that game

[opaque coyote]

Where are the 40k Warhammers???

[rose thorn]

its in aos

[dusk patrol]

Maybe one day we’ll know

[arctic talon]

No that’s The warhammer

[rose thorn]

my bad

[viral halo]

Got a painting marathon scheduled for this weekend

pray for me

[arctic talon]

Not the 40,000 warhammers

[rose thorn]

how many models have warhammers in 40k?

[dusk patrol]

A lot

[arctic talon]

A lot of imperial ones

A few chaos ones

[queen laurel]

I mean that's just like fat shark naming conventions

Like literally vermintide

[dusk patrol]

At least four

[queen laurel]

Because you're fighting a tide of vermin

[rose thorn]

like?

i legit

cnat remember any

[opaque coyote]

Unironically I kinda want to make like

A warp realm

That literally just has a pile of 40,000 Warhammers and nothing else

[arctic talon]

Generous estimate is like 40 lol

[dusk patrol]

I don’t think it’s a bad name for the game, but my point is jsut stuff is always kinda silly if you break it down

[arctic talon]

Assault Terminators

[opaque coyote]

Like it's a place that exists

Nobody knows why

[arctic talon]

The salamander character

[rose thorn]

the DW and teh new inquisitor

[opaque coyote]

It just does

[viral halo]

Vermintide was a based name

[rose thorn]

are the only ones i can think of

[arctic talon]

Space marine assault squad

The assault intercessors have it

[dusk patrol]

Vermintide is a better name I do think, but I get why they choose Darktide

[arctic talon]

It’s on the upgrade sprue for salamanders

[rose thorn]

thats still for saele

?

[arctic talon]

Jump captain has it

[arctic talon]

No

But you said ever

[viral halo]

Next one should be called woketide

[arctic talon]

[rose thorn]

oh

my bad

[arctic talon]

So I’m doing every hammer I can remember

The chaos lord

[rose thorn]

also skaventide is a pertty godo name too

[dusk patrol]

No

Bad

[rose thorn]

how

[dusk patrol]

Flagellate yourself for that opinion

[viral halo]

Great name eternal is just scared of joy

[arctic talon]

Skaventide is mid as a name

Compared to vermintide

Imo

[rose thorn]

it flows off the tongue and has a good googlable name

[dusk patrol]

Vermintide is better

[rose thorn]

well vermintide is a spell in aos

[arctic talon]

Vermindoom is the worst of the bames

[languid meadow]

vermin is 1 a funnier word and 2 sounds better

[arctic talon]

Imo

[dusk patrol]

Non negotiable

[rose thorn]

agreed

[dusk patrol]

I don’t need to explain myself to uncultured swines

[viral halo]

I hope we get a sequel to Vermintide 2 at some point

[queen laurel]

Greentide for an ork tide game is pretty much the best and well it already is used in many warhammer ork media

[arctic talon]

It also was one in whfb

[rose thorn]

oh

[viral halo]

I understand it's taking place during the end times

[dusk patrol]

They could call it V3rmintide

[shadow plover]

Vermindoom is a very Skaven name, it's likely something some crazed Grey Seer yelled just before exploding into morbillion gibbets

[rose thorn]

can we get an AOS tide game pls

[shadow plover]

amazing

[rose thorn]

i wanna be a stormcast

[dusk patrol]

Greentide would be fun eventually too or something like that

[viral halo]

No, AOS videogames can't be done sadly

[dusk patrol]

I do love the idea of an AoS based tide game

[rose thorn]

they arent that bad ;~;

i promise

[rose thorn]

imagine playing a seraphon

[queen laurel]

Realms of ruin

[dusk patrol]

Look one day we’re bound to get a good one

[viral halo]

I hate to be the one to tell you this my sister in sigmar but they are all bad

[arctic talon]

Realms of ruin is so ass

[dusk patrol]

Vermintide came around the same time as Total Warhammer

[queen laurel]

Yeah the day siggy stops drinking and eating hot dogs on a baseball game

[dusk patrol]

They can start the streak

[rose thorn]

the uh, turned base one is okay

[arctic talon]

We need an actual good AoS game someday

[rose thorn]

they still have torms

[viral halo]

Baseball season is over

[rose thorn]

also underworlds one was good becuase it was literally underworlds

[dusk patrol]

We have to be more optimistic than that

[arctic talon]

Okay isn’t enough unfortunately

[rose thorn]

and undewrolds is very good

[arctic talon]

This is true

It is pretty good

[viral halo]

Total Warhammer Age of Sigmar

[arctic talon]

Real

[rose thorn]

but nwo its out of date

[viral halo]

I'd bet money on that being a thing

[arctic talon]

We’re going back to ghur

[queen laurel]

The day that Malice gets proper attention then

[arctic talon]

It’s ghur time

[rose thorn]

we arent in ghur anymore tho

[queen laurel]

Yeah honestly how would you implement the multiple realms in total war aos

[rose thorn]

we are in aqshy

[viral halo]

Total Warhammer Age of Sigmar game that lets me play as a darkoath warband beholden to a chaos lord

take my money CA

[queen laurel]

I want to play a monster only faction with the giants

[viral halo]

CA got the pledge of immortal funding from Sega the other week

[queen laurel]

gargants

[rose thorn]

it would be like playing my favorite ttww faciton but good

[viral halo]

they said that total warhammer has been so profitable it made up for their losses in other ventures

Which is crazy

considering they had 2 major flops

[queen laurel]

I really want to see how they would implement the sons of behamat

[arctic talon]

Too bad back to ghur

[rose thorn]

also apparently there is gonna be a tww40k game after they make their tww ww2 game

[arctic talon]

Engine explodes

[rose thorn]

well my city is in ghur so mroe lore for meee :3

[shadow plover]

they're apparently working on a Star Wars game too

[queen laurel]

The last thing the total war engine needs is a 40k game

Like the amount of shooting that is normal for a warhammer battle

[arctic talon]

It already struggles

With skaven

And wood elves

[queen laurel]

Is f****** crazy

[arctic talon]

And chorfs

[queen laurel]

Yep

[rose thorn]

thye are making a new engine for shooitng shit

apparnetly

[languid meadow]

Empire 2 please

[rose thorn]

gonna be hoenst if we get a 40k tww game AND a ww2 tw game that entire online space will be a toxic hellscape

[viral halo]

All I want in life but we will NEVER get it

black powder warfare in a historical representation just does not sell

[rose thorn]

it would be the worst parts of the warhamemr fandom combined

[viral halo]

It's my fave thing ever but they'll never do it again

They've seen how profitable fantasy shit is

We're never getting another historical total war

[rose thorn]

but

[shadow plover]

please not a repeat of the worst Total War game 😔 (lets forget about Rome 2 for a second)

[rose thorn]

fantasy with guns

hmM?

[viral halo]

I doubt we will ever get a medieval 3 even

Rings of Power Total War gonna come out eventually

lmfao

[rose thorn]

if there is ever a aos tww game id get it, but im genuine so fucking bad

at the game

i liedk teh civ parts

[languid meadow]

DW the AI is also bad at the game

[viral halo]

Can't play total warhammer without that one overhaul mod

[rose thorn]

and was so bad at the battle parts adn the last thingi wanted to do was wait 10 minutes in a loading screen

[queen laurel]

Yeah total war ai is absolutely horse poo

[viral halo]

SFO

makes it a bit better

[queen laurel]

It's like fighting a kid trying to learn an rts game

Like to make the game harder they literally give the ai unnecessary stat buffs

[rose thorn]

i got obliterated by an ai fullstack hrode of orcs ltierally destroying everything but my captial

[viral halo]

Part of the reason I don't really play total war anymore, the AI is braindead, some mods make it better but it doesn't make it better in the old games where the AI is hardcoded to the engine.

[rose thorn]

i love 4x games hto

[viral halo]

I will say I've had some thriller battles in heavily modded Rome 2 campaigns though

[queen laurel]

Yeah like

I don't play on the higher difficulties because i want to have fun but sometimes

Jesus christ the ai needs fixing

[viral halo]

Another one that's an absolute blast is third age total war

[queen laurel]

The way it builds army and settlements

Just no

[outer wave]

When I was playing Total Warhammer, I kept noticing that the easy/normal AI would raid my weakest cities, attack them, do it again, then retreat and never ever take on my armies

It was so annoying

[languid meadow]

It depends on what game/faction but sometimes they can build decent armies

[queen laurel]

Don't even

[arctic talon]

AI skaven is so ass

Lol

[rose thorn]

every copy of tww is unique

[languid meadow]

in TWW3 they fixed ogres so they actually build their higher tier units

[outer wave]

Finally....

[queen laurel]

Good

[languid meadow]

woe 3 skavenslave stacks upon you

[shadow plover]

Fucking early campaing lizard men

[viral halo]

Highly recommend playing with SFO

[shadow plover]

cheating bastards

[viral halo]

makes their army comp more realistic

[languid meadow]

(the units are still bad but like at least they build them)

[viral halo]

Mod in general makes the game significantly better

[rose thorn]

like starbound

holy shit every bad scifi game is just

star(word)

[shadow plover]

SFO changes too much to my liking so I mostly run vanilla

I used to play it a lot during TWWH2 but dropped it during 3

[rose thorn]

wtf is SFO?

[shadow plover]

overhaul mod for the game

[rose thorn]

oh

[outer wave]

I recall seeing Okoii stream SFO once like a year or so ago, and the Nurgle army had strong passive regeneration that his ogre army couldnt punch through

[languid meadow]

the relationship with TW may be strenuous but you already know I'm gonna be playing skulltaker

[rose thorn]

acutally when is the warhammer 4x game

[languid meadow]

Holy shit pre nerf Heinrich but in nurgle form

[rose thorn]

i GOTTA build a servator factory by round 4

[arctic talon]

Idfk

We do have

Uh gladius

[dusk patrol]

Me, looking at the auto resolve saying my doom stack of dragons has a good chance of losing to a town with a garrison of Skavenslaves and clan rats

https://tenor.com/view/you-sure-about-that-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-are-you-absolutely-certain-are-you-positive-can-you-verify-that-gif-10549268703103241949

[rose thorn]

why is that game so expensive

[arctic talon]

Idfk

[rose thorn]

i forgot it existed lmao

[languid meadow]

that's so weird since AR hates skaven for me

[shadow plover]

it's often on sale for like $2

[rose thorn]

heard its fine, i havent gotten to really play it tho

[languid meadow]

but it loves dwarves

[arctic talon]

I’m never getting what I really want a league of legends skirmish scale wargame lol

[languid meadow]

holy shit it really does

[arctic talon]

AR is anti monster/flyers heavily

[dusk patrol]

Construct doomstack for Tomb Kings is amusing too

[rose thorn]

i dont know if im reading it as like

[dusk patrol]

And also macroing chariot Settra to wipe out armies by himself

[rose thorn]

a LoL style wargamer

[arctic talon]

I want a wargame in runeterra

At the skirmish scale

[rose thorn]

or LoL wargame

[languid meadow]

god a wargame set in runeterra sounds awesome

[arctic talon]

With each of the major regions

[celest dome]

I want some rts à la Battle for Middle Earth (or Warcraft) set in AoS, it deserve a good game

[languid meadow]

Noxus armies would hard asf

[rose thorn]

how owuld that even worj?

[shadow plover]

Neither am I, removing League from the public consciousness of the people 😔

[rose thorn]

work

would the characters be the hero models

[arctic talon]

Just have fighters from each region

[arctic talon]

Doesn’t need the champions

But sure

[dusk patrol]

I want a meta LoL war game where you macro a mid league player into getting to diamond while also having a girlfriend and a balanced diet

[arctic talon]

They could be

[arctic talon]

I’ve got 2 of those 3 things

[rose thorn]

would it be hero hammer or would there be generic units?

[arctic talon]

I’m not diamond though

Ever

[celest dome]

Champion could be Lords/Heroes units

[arctic talon]

Generic

There’s a lot

[rose thorn]

honeslty i really like nox so i woudlnt complain

ro

[arctic talon]

Of generic like soldiers/criminals/humans

[rose thorn]

waht ever the uh

[arctic talon]

Noxus

[rose thorn]

yea

[arctic talon]

Expansionist meritocratic diverse hellhole

[rose thorn]

(i only listen to LoL music thats all i know about the lore)

[arctic talon]

Lol

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/kylo-ren-still-holding-on-star-wars-the-last-jedi-ben-solo-gif-25463731

[rose thorn]

where is the pokemon tabletop wargame

[dusk patrol]

If you had a piss jug you’d be diamond smh

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-incredibles-syndrome-oh-come-on-you-gotta-admit-this-is-cool-this-is-cool-cool-gif-25188857

I love the bog standard armor designs runeterra has

[celest dome]

Total War Pokemon would absolutely grandiose

[rose thorn]

i want a skirmish game verison of pokemon mystery dugnon lmao

'yeah my army is a lokix as my leader and 15 butterfres

butterfrees

?

[dusk patrol]

Where’s my gritty M rated Pokémon reboot?

[arctic talon]

average noxian woman's fashion in the trifarian legion

[rose thorn]

its called palworld and its getting sued for actually ccommitting crimes lmao

[rose thorn]

okay thats awesome

[languid meadow]

Noxus and Demacia have pretty cool designs

[arctic talon]

Noxus and Demacia both have generic fantasy esque designs that go above and beyond

without getting into like

[dusk patrol]

We’ll see, Nintendo suing someone for whatever isn’t a huge revelation tbh

[arctic talon]

high tier mmo loot

[celest dome]

Pokemon Conquest should get a new game

[rose thorn]

gotta love when the game memes about being a copy right infringement of another game actually commited copyright infringement

[languid meadow]

Who up riding dragons

[rose thorn]

yeah but they unrioinically stole models from the game

[dusk patrol]

Generic warmongering powerful empire in a fantasy setting winning through tactics and skill against magic and other bullshit, gotta be one of my favorite genders.

[opaque coyote]

I did actually do research on why Nintendo is so trigger happy

[celest dome]

They're not suing for models, just for mechanics

[opaque coyote]

Half of it is actually just due to Copyright laws in Japan being even worse than the USA

Basically

It can be summarized as

[rose thorn]

oh fr?

[dusk patrol]

Like I said, we’ll see

[opaque coyote]

"Use it or lose it"

[dusk patrol]

I don’t care much either way

[rose thorn]

also the ceo of the company taht made palworld is a bastard

[dusk patrol]

But Nintendo doesn’t have the best track record with his kinda thing

[arctic talon]

giant bird calvary goes harder

[rose thorn]

love it

[opaque coyote]

True

But also people had a lot of fun with Palworld

And tbh

It would be a shame if Palworld loses

[languid meadow]

I love most of the regions in runeterra

[opaque coyote]

Because we not only lose a fun game

[languid meadow]

Ixtal is like the only one I don't care for

[opaque coyote]

But it would also discourage anybody from creating any Pokemon inspired game

[languid meadow]

besides new skarner

[opaque coyote]

Which would suck

A lot

[arctic talon]

Ixtal just doesn't have enough meat to it yet

tbh

[rose thorn]

my problem with palworld its specifically marketed as a rip off of anotehr game

there are pokemon inspired games you can play lmao

that arent being sed

sued

[opaque coyote]

True. I think marketing wise it is bad

[languid meadow]

I like the elemental stuff just not their general designs

[opaque coyote]

But honestly I heard that Palworld is genuinely, unironically really fun tho

Which is good

[rose thorn]

i fucking love the pokemon, i lvoe all the bug types so much

[opaque coyote]

It would also bring into question.

Like would a Digimon game technically violate it?

[dusk patrol]

I just don’t really care, games have ripped eachother off for a long time

[opaque coyote]

Also true

[arctic talon]

new skarner is so cool

[dusk patrol]

Unless it’s literally called Pokemon

[opaque coyote]

Oreo and Hydrox moment

[arctic talon]

I love how huge he is

[rose thorn]

apparently digimon is making a comback

[rose thorn]

OOO

[dusk patrol]

Games have literally marketed themselves as “this game but better” or “this game killer”

[rose thorn]

yeah i now want a runeterra tabletop game lmao

[languid meadow]

I love him so much

[opaque coyote]

I unironically like Sylveon.

That particular eeveelution is just

[rose thorn]

and then died </3

[opaque coyote]

So pretty

I'm sorry

[rose thorn]

my faovrite pokemon is lokixs

i love lokix

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-lokix-gif-16584323451454011802

[arctic talon]

Boomer but is actually concerned with the greater good

[dusk patrol]

Run-flee from Gundam scorpion, yes yes.

[rose thorn]

hes literally jsut a kamen rider cricket and i always love him

[languid meadow]

also piltover wardens/enforcers also have a really cool design

[opaque coyote]

My favorite Pokemon are weird.

Because most of them are edgier designs like

Darkrai, Girtana, etc.

And then I also have Fairy types like Sylveon in them as well

[arctic talon]

Wardens and Enforcers look great

[rose thorn]

elite wolf what faciton has the bugs

[opaque coyote]

"I can be your angle"

[rose thorn]

i love bugs

[opaque coyote]

"OR YOUR DEVIL."

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/blitzmein-gif-24143805

I love the gold and blue

[opaque coyote]

Beetles are the coolest shit ever tbh

[rose thorn]

i love the death rep

[opaque coyote]

I just like em

They're neat

[arctic talon]

The shadow isles are a fun region

Thanks viego

[dusk patrol]

Also they’re on the right side of history so it’s Gucci

[arctic talon]

💀

[rose thorn]

where is the serial killer from

[arctic talon]

Jhin is from Ionia

[languid meadow]

"fuck the poors" - Eternal 2024

[rose thorn]

thanks

[opaque coyote]

Said Hitler before pointing a gun to his head

[dusk patrol]

I would never

[rose thorn]

also, since lol is doing some multiverse thing they can release factiosn from those multiverses

[languid meadow]

Hey beat that guy

[arctic talon]

thats only for skins

they aren't canon

[dusk patrol]

Copulating with the…underclass…is

[opaque coyote]

Idk maybe they have good game

You'll never know

[rose thorn]

damn

[opaque coyote]

[dusk patrol]

[languid meadow]

isn't arcane now the main universe?

[rose thorn]

oh whos the doggy from? i love the dagger doggy

[rose thorn]

no

[languid meadow]

I don't remember what the did with the lore

[arctic talon]

Arcane is retcon'ing PNZ lore

everything else is unchanged

[rose thorn]

oh ice

[arctic talon]

So we have like

2 PnZ characters that need rewrites

[opaque coyote]

I read it as PvZ for a second and I was like

[arctic talon]

Camille and Blitzcrank

[opaque coyote]

"Wait what"

[arctic talon]

both need new lore

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

Everyone else works fine

[languid meadow]

sweet

[rose thorn]

WHERE IS MY PLANTS VS ZOMBIES TABLETOP GAME

[arctic talon]

With their arcane lore shoved in

[languid meadow]

Aight that's what I got fucked up on

[arctic talon]

PnZ also is like imo the least interesting region

Tbf

we already know where PnZ are going to end up

by the end of it

Silco does end up getting his dream of an independent Zaun

[rose thorn]

gnomes, plants, and zombies bam 3 factions for pvz tabletopg ame

[languid meadow]

wait it was LoR and LoL that had the lore changes

when it comes to who takes precedent

[arctic talon]

LoR/universe page

is the final say generally

Ignoring PnZ

because they're still rewritting stuff

[rose thorn]

whts pnz anyway

[arctic talon]

Piltover and Zaun

The Twin City States as they get called lol

[rose thorn]

that doesnt clear up anthing

[arctic talon]

its the place Arcane takes place in

[rose thorn]

OHHHH

[arctic talon]

PnZ is an abbreviation

[rose thorn]

whats wrong twiht those?

[arctic talon]

oh

they're just making arcane canon

so they need to rewrite some lore

[rose thorn]

lmao yay

[arctic talon]

Mostly relating to camille

[rose thorn]

i love homoseuxals

[arctic talon]

and also Blitzcrank

[languid meadow]

Old PnZ was something else

hmm yes sinking city

[arctic talon]

tbf

Zaun still is a "sunken" city

its built on the ruins of Oshra Va'Zaun still

[rose thorn]

wait LoL is the perfect setting to sell to basement dwellers

[arctic talon]

because there's hot men and women in it?

[rose thorn]

because it forces them to have a social life

[arctic talon]

or because prostitution is canonically a thing in all the regions

[rose thorn]

to play the tabletop game

[arctic talon]

Oh

[languid meadow]

I don't think you'd want to interact with most league players

[arctic talon]

I agree

and I play the game

[rose thorn]

i tried playing the game but i was terribel at it </3

i liked smite tho

[languid meadow]

Speaking of LoL and Arcane. Season 2 is pretty good so far.

[rose thorn]

and paladins

[languid meadow]

Smite is pretty fun

[rose thorn]

ir elaly like paladins actually lmao

[arctic talon]

The Zaun Crest, Piltover Crest and the unified Piltover and Zaun Crest

[rose thorn]

woh cool

i like that gentrification is canon in runeterra

[arctic talon]

LOL

Zaun did get both less awful and more awful after it became independent

From Piltover

[languid meadow]

Chemtech and Hextech aesthetics are so good

[arctic talon]

Shadow Isles are really pretty

[languid meadow]

Instead of the rich oppressing us it's now chem barons

[arctic talon]

Thanks for causing the Ruination Viego

[arctic talon]

So its still the rich opressing us

[languid meadow]

yeah but green

[arctic talon]

Renata is purple

[rose thorn]

except the pink eprson

lmao

[languid meadow]

I forgot about her lmao

[rose thorn]

this is basically what shyish looks like too lmao

[arctic talon]

Renata "I hate poor people" Glasc

[rose thorn]

SDFGH

hey wahts with the goblins

[arctic talon]

oh Yordles?

they're fey creatures basicially

[rose thorn]

yea

[languid meadow]

God purple looks so much better than green

[arctic talon]

they're all connected to a place called the Bandlewood

where they uh

[rose thorn]

i have a natural hatred to them

[arctic talon]

come from

[rose thorn]

idk hwy i hate them so much

i think its becaus ethey are immortal for no reason

[arctic talon]

I mean

they're immortal because they're made of magic

[rose thorn]

wait

[arctic talon]

you can't destroy magic

[crystal forum]

this makes me feel straight

[rose thorn]

what about that one furby

[arctic talon]

Heimerdinger hating magic

does not mean he isn't made out of it mostly

lol

[rose thorn]

lmao

[arctic talon]

He hates magic in the hands of human mages

[rose thorn]

racist

[arctic talon]

and granted human and vastayan mages

did in fact

ruin the world once already

[languid meadow]

internalized magicphobia

[arctic talon]

But yeah Renata is funny in that

she was poor growing up, her parents were loving, super kind people

and they sold medicine

when her parents house got firebombed and they got murdered she took her parents life work and comodified it

[rose thorn]

like you do

[arctic talon]

she doesn't even hate the people who murdered her parents

btw

she thinks her parents were too nice for their own good

[rose thorn]

oop

[arctic talon]

was that true

I mean I guess kind of

if your daughter is literally starving but you still don't sell the live saving medicine you're making

you are kind of like

neglecting your child

[rose thorn]

you need the medicine to feed ur child lmao

so

she was being a hater for no reaosn

[arctic talon]

They were giving it out as charity

is the thing

which she hated

[languid meadow]

being a hater is like half the LoL cast

[rose thorn]

ohhh

[arctic talon]

renata's tragic backstory is having a loving family

and being poor

[rose thorn]

isnt that the new batman lore

[arctic talon]

and then she became a horrific criminal who's obessesed with money lol

was batman poor?

[rose thorn]

the uh

batman ulitmate

or what ever

where he is a middle class dude

[languid meadow]

absolute batman

[rose thorn]

yeah

havent read it, and i know better than trust comics that are hyped up by people

[arctic talon]

thats not being poor

[rose thorn]

i knwo but i thought he was poor at first

in the comic

[arctic talon]

but yeah Renata finished her parents life's work

and then turned it into a combat drug

lol

[rose thorn]

oh nice

oh

nice?

i guess?

OH WHO ARE THE PIRATES AGAIN I LOVE THE ANGRY PIRATE GHOST

[arctic talon]

Bilgewater

[rose thorn]

yesssss

[arctic talon]

Pyke isn't a ghost though he's a revenant 🤓

[rose thorn]

die

pyke and fiddle sticks

i unironically read the lore for

[rose thorn]

I LOVE HIM

[arctic talon]

Captain tells me to kill fish, fish tells me to kill captain

[rose thorn]

HE INSPIRED HALF OF MY AOS STUFF

[languid meadow]

pyke and naut are great characters

sea stuff is so cool

[dusk patrol]

lol has some very fun characters

[rose thorn]

its like so close to being generic pirate stuff but they dodge it by making everyoen fucking insane

[tough haven]

anyone got that line from opticon-22 in RT where he basically says nobles make him want to commit suicide?

[arctic talon]

I like how Pyke literally got resurected by magic Fish

[rose thorn]

except that sex pirate lady

[languid meadow]

Fiddle and all the demons are so cool

[arctic talon]

She has a redesign

tbf

[rose thorn]

oh fr?

[rose thorn]

this is what games should be ripping off instead of warhammer for the 90th time

[arctic talon]

she canonically dresses like this

[rose thorn]

FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[arctic talon]

rather then her splash art

which is uh

[rose thorn]

so much better

[arctic talon]

when she is trying to play herself off as a well

you know

ditzy bimbo

[arctic talon]

and then she just blows their brains out with a pistol

[rose thorn]

lmao

[tough haven]

No fuck you I'm gonna keep ripping off 40k, its a tradition at this point

[rose thorn]

this is so much better lmao

[tough haven]

Common black widow W

[tough haven]

thank you

[arctic talon]

but yeah she canonically dresses not like her actual splash art

[rose thorn]

sounds liek they dont wanna make her a new model yet

[arctic talon]

also like this

Which is probably going to be her new model when she gets an update

since the version ingame is of her before she murdered Gangplank

[rose thorn]

ohhhh

[arctic talon]

now granted gangplank lived

he just uh lost an arm

[languid meadow]

I forgot what the next VGU is going to be ( I don't think they announced it yet )

no wait

shyvana?

[rose thorn]

what does gangplank look like now btw?

[languid meadow]

I think she's next

[rose thorn]

i know his old model and art

[arctic talon]

next VGU is Shyvanna

[rose thorn]

HOLY SHIT

[languid meadow]

I think this is his current design right?

[arctic talon]

Yep

[languid meadow]

it's from the RK game

[rose thorn]

note to self, play legedns of runeterra

[arctic talon]

he got corrupted by relics from the shadow isles

in an attempt to kill Miss fortune

[rose thorn]

OH ITS THE SAME AS THE HOT LADY WITH THE STATUEEEEEEE

oh no its not

my bad

[arctic talon]

which hot lady with the statue

[rose thorn]

the one who smashes poeple with it

who worships a kraken?

[arctic talon]

Oh

Illaoi

yeah no gangplanks glowy stuff is the wrong shade of blueish green

for Illaoi

[rose thorn]

fair

[languid meadow]

I love her as a character but fighting her is just

[rose thorn]

theres this fuck ass character who made me quit the game

it was a raccoon

who apparently sells drugs

[arctic talon]

Oh

thats in LoR

lol

[rose thorn]

huh?

the guy who looks like a boyscout?

[languid meadow]

teemo

[rose thorn]

yea i think

[arctic talon]

Teemo doesn't sell drugs

[arctic talon]

Teemo is a uh

bandle city scout

[rose thorn]

WHAT THE FUCK AM I LOOKING AT

[languid meadow]

They said boyscout so I thought teemo

[arctic talon]

and old as shit

[arctic talon]

a Whump

[rose thorn]

this fucker

killed em so many times

[arctic talon]

Also aa yordle

she's a yordle iirc

Not teemo, the thing I posted

[rose thorn]

killing everyone

[arctic talon]

He has a skin where he's a traumatized psycopathic veteran

https://tenor.com/view/league-of-legends-teemo-omega-gif-18984250

[rose thorn]

thats prety good actually

very funny metal gear

[arctic talon]

and the mushrooms become land mines

all his quotes are very like

Predator/generic veteran soldier quotes