40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

Everyone had meltas, lasguns, bolters

Ect.

[rose thorn]

In lore human tech is a clone of Eldar tech?

[tough haven]

Alright so heres what I got so far

[arctic talon]

3e sent this all to the retconian

[arctic talon]

In universe explanation is convergent technological development

For a lot of stuff

Maybe it was inspired by eldar tech in the daot

Who knows

[tough haven]

A Technoarcheologist, Durix Roth-16 hires the party to investigate the death of a tech adept that was sent to recover a "valuable discovery" of which he will not elaborate to the party, citing insufficient access levels, which is actually a device of Aeldari manufacture (A fire dragon fusion gun) that he wishes to study.
He will direct the party to the crime scene, where the body of the adept can be found, who was killed roughly 10 hours ago, attentive characters will notice that the adept’s augmetics were stolen only recently, implying the perpetrators did not kill them for a simple robbery. Idk what other clues or stuff about the setting I should include around their body

like where is it found

is anyone investigating it?

anyone trying to scavenge it?

[arctic talon]

If it’s in the lower or under hive

Or hell even bad parts of the mid hive

People will be picking the body clean prolly

[tough haven]

Could be a good introductory combat scenario

shoot the homeless

[arctic talon]

LOL

Do it

[tough haven]

or y'know, like deal with it in a different way

if you hate fun

[tough haven]

are the enforcers involved in this death at all do you think?

like investigating it or anything

or just like trying to see if they got anything good to steal themselves

[arctic talon]

Depends

[tough haven]

or like trying to keep people away?

[arctic talon]

They would be trying to keep people away

[tough haven]

how would that impact my homeless person encounter

[arctic talon]

Have the homeless people mob the police

Idfk

[tough haven]

Its my understanding most deaths are just ignored in the hive

[arctic talon]

Depends on where

If it’s the lower hive yeah

[tough haven]

but I guess a tech adept is kinda important

[arctic talon]

No one’s going to give a shit

[tough haven]

lower hive is the setting

[arctic talon]

The enforcers will be slower

Alright

You don’t need enforcers

[tough haven]

idk if thats where the tech priest is based, or if he's higher up and he just says "alright! Heres transportation and the coordinates, go find him!"

[tough haven]

I'm trying to decide who should have killed them

random gangs hired by the cold trader BBEG to take the gun to them, or the lone aeldari corsair/outcast trying to recover it, who then gets it swept out from under them by humans

[crystal forum]

do mechanicus go outside

[tough haven]

probably not

if they can help it

[arctic talon]

Yes

[tough haven]

What do you think makes more sense for who killed the adept?

[arctic talon]

Random Gangers imo

So it leads to the BBEG

[tough haven]

Should I have the eldar intervene like a little less than halfway through, like have an unnamed third party kill a few of the guys you're looking for, for example?

[tough haven]

I'm trying to think of what clues I could have around the crime scene or their manner of death that would give the party a direction

or other things to guide the party if they fuck up checks or something

[arctic talon]

you could

Probably note that there's bullet casings

could be of low quality make

[tough haven]

so they probably wouldnt have las weapons

[arctic talon]

yeah

maybe have a bunch of bullet holes all over the place

gangers are not known for being good at aiming

[tough haven]

and the adept riddled with holes

were they able to fight back or were they caught unawares?

[opaque coyote]

Average ganger in 40k

https://tenor.com/view/guns-shooting-rapid-shooting-gif-15985662

(A random civilian stepped one toe into their territory)

[tough haven]

So that tells the party it was gangers, but how would it lead them to a specific gang or that this is unusal besides the daily gang killings

besides that the augmetics are only now being stolen by the homeless™️

[arctic talon]

I'd assume gangers are so sloppy the adept probably would have had time to be fought back

[opaque coyote]

Gangers can have las weapons.

But it depends on how advanced your planet is.

You could have a mixture of weapons

[tough haven]

maybe a body or two would be found?

[arctic talon]

Gangs usually do not have the balls to murder random Mechanicus members

[arctic talon]

Yeah

or like

[opaque coyote]

Like they just took anything they could get

[arctic talon]

severe blood stains

bone shards

ect.

I'm assuming its some underhive shithole gang

[tough haven]

which is unusual for gangers

[tough haven]

probably

[opaque coyote]

You could have multiple types of weapons if it's some random under hive gang.

Just have weapons ranging from regular las fire to fucking musket balls

[arctic talon]

yeah

gangers would absolutely

steal everything lol

[opaque coyote]

Like they're literally using anything they could get as long as it has

[tough haven]

only didnt rob him because they were A. scared of retribution, and didnt know if he had allies nearby so they booked it, and B. because Da Boss™️ said to just take the artifact

[opaque coyote]

The ability to kill

[tough haven]

maybe I could have a body of a ganger with some clue as to which gang it was?

[arctic talon]

yeah but I'm going for something more stereotypical

[arctic talon]

yep

[tough haven]

Yeah but I want something to show the party that they werent just some ballsy gangers who decided "hmm today I will rob a mechanicus member"

[opaque coyote]

Due to Tech Adepts packing a lot of heat (relatively)

You can just have multiple ones

[arctic talon]

Make it obvious there was an ambush set up

ahead of time

[tough haven]

how so?

[arctic talon]

Like there was cover piled up

maybe some sort of trap

[opaque coyote]

Could also have supplies

[arctic talon]

yeah

Abandoned suppplies

[opaque coyote]

Like maybe an ammo box or whatever

[tough haven]

maybe a haywire grenade to fuck with his augmetics

[arctic talon]

that works

[tough haven]

I assume those dont just completely vanish when detonated

[opaque coyote]

Could also have the nearby lights be fucked

Like the grenade also made the electricity around the area get disabled

[tough haven]

that works

this way I have several checks the party could make to determine clues

[tough haven]

And uhh idk maybe the bodies could have a specific tattoo for their gang?

[arctic talon]

yeah

[tough haven]

alright, how would I make it clear that the tech priest had whatever the artifact was, or maybe add some vague clues of what it was?

[arctic talon]

Tech Priest has a broken wooden like

box with them?

or maybe have the box be made out of some unknown material

[tough haven]

Like maybe have like aeldari runes on it?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

or maybe have the party confused because it looks like the box is made out of bone

or something

but it clearly isn't bone

[tough haven]

sounds good

so they find ganger tattoos on them, how would the party be led by the tattoos to where they can find said gang?

[tough haven]

I mean if you go around asking the locals they might not tell you just out of fear

[arctic talon]

Ask the enforcers?

idk

[tough haven]

oh right, those do exist down here

[tough haven]

So for my homeless person fight, how many do you think there should be and how should they be armed

I want them to be weaker than gangers

hmm speaking of enforcers, maybe I should have some of the local enforcers be paid off by this gang, idk if thats plausible though

for like 2-4 party members, maybe like 2-3 scum for an introductory fight?

[crystal forum]

i legit forgot if there's still a breathable atmosphere on mars

[tough haven]

define breathable

[crystal forum]

not instant death

like real life mars

[tough haven]

To an unaugmented human? its probably breathable, youll die in like 2 months but thats a given

[crystal forum]

microplastics my favorite

so mars was terraformed during the dark age right

it was like all green and shit?

i heard mars went to shit during the age of strife but now that i think about it, i dont get it

mars needed to be constantly maintained to stay green? why is no other imperial world like that

[arctic talon]

Breathable but you'll die

[tough haven]

I'm thinking like 2 scavs would be decent

one has a autopistol and a knife, the other just has a knife

[arctic talon]

It didn't it just had apocalyptic wars on it which turned it back into a shithole

along with the terraforming things breaking

[opaque coyote]

(by SALAMANDER)

This mf shows up in your house asking for Trick or Treat

what you do

[rocky gale]

Offer him the undeniable flavour that is Charleston Chew

[small grail]

goddamn

[scenic scroll]

Whats at the center of the galaxy in 40k? Anything about Sagittarius A*?

[celest dome]

Leagues of Votaan stuff

[rose thorn]

Why does war com keep posting this their rattling muckbang newsletter

[rocky gale]

Because easy way to fill out their quota

[rose thorn]

At least like, show a weapon profile god Damn

[paper haven]

Click farming or somesuch

[rose thorn]

“Today I’ll tell you how to cook pie for the god emperor while I eat a cob of corn”

[rocky gale]

Nice usage of Rupert in the article though

[rose thorn]

Starting a new rogue trader run, gonna keep the same vibe of loving to collect xeno tech tho

Not sure if I should be a crime lord or a noble

I guess am I collector or am I black manta this shit

[tough haven]

Unrelated question What would you call an area that citizens go to try to get jobs in the lower hive?

[rose thorn]

Hiver or hive scum

Spending on your social ranking

Melee xeno build lets go

[tough haven]

No no I mean like the actual place where they gather to try and get a job assigned to them

Like enforcers passing out assignments to able people

[rose thorn]

Lmao like an enforcer would do that

[tough haven]

Oh no it’s administratum who do it, look for able bodied people for like factorum work and etc, the enforcers are there to beat people that mob too much or get too close

[rose thorn]

Enforcers are American cops:

[tough haven]

Yup

[rose thorn]

Yeha it’s still hiver, you are defined by your rank in society

In a hive city

[tough haven]

Yeah I get that, but I’m talking like a building or something that this would be done at

Like what that would be called

[rose thorn]

What job specifically?

[tough haven]

It would be whatever they need replacements for at the moment, but like hard manual labor

Like dockers, factorum work, etc

[rose thorn]

Having a job doesn’t make you any better in the lower hives

[tough haven]

No it doesn’t

[rose thorn]

It’s literally hiver

Important jobs in the lower hives are usually controlled by the houses

[tough haven]

Ok

[rose thorn]

That live above them

Or guilds or what ever

[tough haven]

I am not asking about the title of the actual person getting the job

[rose thorn]

Oh

[tough haven]

I’m asking what I would call the place where they recruit people for said jobs

[rose thorn]

OHH

I’ll get the thing

[tough haven]

Like masses of people scrambling to try to get a job to get ration cards

[rose thorn]

Pretty sure it’s different from job to job

I’m not certain tho I’d have to check

I know servators walk around and offer jobs

[crystal forum]

"munitorum assignment office"
if you're going for formal

something like that at least

but you can invent a company hiring office

von grager's work assignment yard

[gray umbra]

blade dancer executioner sounds nasty with drukhari mele weapons

my original playthrough before they nerfed archmilitant, i ended up dual wielding a shuriken pistol and an neuro disruptor

that gun was based

[paper haven]

I made my team all soldier arch militants. Everything that moved got shot, everything that stood still got shot twice.

[arctic talon]

Blade dancer executioner pyromancer psyker with drukhari weapons can literally one shot the final boss with proper setup

[rose thorn]

[arctic talon]

Tbf it’s very easy to break the game in rogue trader

[rose thorn]

Fair

[hallow plover]

The game breaks itself 😉

[arctic talon]

You can get infinite stats as blade dancer iirc

Prolly gona get patched

[rose thorn]

My RT is like, eternally jealous of eldar. She got that black manta thing going on

She wishes she could be an eldar

so excited to see how this RT rp goes

I’ll end up trying to be besties with eldar or kill then all

[crystal forum]

this is my dumb nerd rant but a game shouldn't require meta building to pass the threshold of "beatable"

[hallow plover]

That's a pretty valid take tbh

[arctic talon]

Unfortunately Owlcat

[hallow plover]

Well, i'm assuming an "average" or "meant to be played" difficulty

[arctic talon]

Tbh

It’s doable with a mid as hell build

[crystal forum]

subterranian is a very good example of this if any of you played it

[arctic talon]

But unfair is genuinely impossible

Same with space combat

But space combat genuinely feels tacked on

[rose thorn]

Like dnd’s space combat

(It’s very bad)

[crystal forum]

wait no that's not the name of the game

underrail!

[arctic talon]

For once pathfinder does not do it better

[crystal forum]

im dumb

[rose thorn]

You mean under rail

[crystal forum]

yes

[arctic talon]

Starfinder space combat

Is also ass

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

Like

[rose thorn]

‘It’s combat but you multiply your attacks by 10’

[crystal forum]

it took me 250 hours to reach the final boss in underrail

[arctic talon]

It’s arguably worse then spell jammer lmao

[crystal forum]

and i literally cannot win

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[hallow plover]

Sad for a space gaming system

[crystal forum]

i went to the underrail discord and i posted my save to see if any of the sweaty 10000 hour players could beat it

[arctic talon]

Starfinder is

[crystal forum]

they all asked me how i even managed to get to that point

[arctic talon]

Idk

It’s fine

I prefer pathfinder

Hopefully Starfinder 2e is not as uh

Annoying as Pathfinder 2e

[hallow plover]

I've played one session of starfinder first ed. a looong time ago

[crystal forum]

nobody could defeat the boss

i cant even save scum myself to victory

[hallow plover]

The worldbuilding seemed nice but the actual game wasn't making the cut

[arctic talon]

💀

Bad game design

Tbh

[crystal forum]

underrail really forces you to meta build

[rose thorn]

That’s why they ported Starfinder into pathfinder

[arctic talon]

Lol

anyways pathfinder 2e amiright

[gray umbra]

there's a whole thing on which classes in the pathfinder games are actually usable

[arctic talon]

So like normal pathfinder

[gray umbra]

basically lol

[arctic talon]

At least it’s pathfinder 1e

If it was 2e it would be like

[gray umbra]

m-muh lvl 1 monk crane style dip

[arctic talon]

5x easier to brick your build

Because 2e is horribly designed trying to make it more approachable

[queen laurel]

hey wolf across like the three warhammer settings is lord Kroak like the most busted mage?

[arctic talon]

Within setting yeah

[queen laurel]

Damn he is one powerful frog

[tough haven]

What are some good loading screen lines from darktide to use as announcements/sermons to a hive to inspire conformity

“An open mind is like a fortress with its gates open and un-barred”

[rose thorn]

That’s why I shoot people who walk on my property

[tough haven]

America moment

[arctic talon]

“Facts are chains that bind perception and fetter truth”

[tough haven]

A classic “Revile the mutant, abhor the witch, hate the alien”

[tough haven]

So true brother

[arctic talon]

Just use this

https://gist.github.com/pmarreck/1548c09877ac012ed181fa067fd9b1d7

Pick out the ones you like

[queen laurel]

People get mad at the imperium for not having common sense but they ignore things like these

like they quite literally encourage you to be basically a mindless killing machine

[storm jungle]

Some of these are so fucking funny

average U.S recruiter ahh messages

[rose thorn]

Remember those video game army ads

“The virus destroyer”

“The replenisher”

[queen laurel]

they be doing everything in their power to bring you in

[hallow plover]

The best thing they did was the America's Army game

[paper haven]

Actually recruiters specifically avoid that stuff because it scares the average impressionable teenager away

[tight stratus]

who was searching darktide back in 2011 and onwards

[queen laurel]

Grendel

[tight stratus]

That cheeky son of a

[celest dome]

Iirc the Darktide subreddit used to be for another game, but don't remember which

[tight stratus]

That's intruiging

searching for the previous game now, but then I see this in my results

[crystal forum]

did somebody make a github page just for this

[low gazelle]

Reminds me of that one vid with the recruiting booth and helldivers above it

[opaque coyote]

I think both simultaneously the funniest and saddest quote is simply

"Mercy is a disease, intolerance is the cure."

Somewhere out there is a not very smart World Eater thinking Slaanesh is the god of Axes. Both Khorne and Slaanesh are confused, but he's got the right spirit.

[rose thorn]

dnd YouTubers are so fucking terrible at warhammer lore it’s not even funny

Unironically only quote fucking dankhammer memes

[gray umbra]

did you know

calgar is not the real one?

[rose thorn]

Did you know space mairnes are actually the BAD GUYS

[gray umbra]

[opaque coyote]

Honestly from all the advertising. That may actually come as a shock to a good chunk of people

Also you ever think that Tzeentch and Nurgle are more the equivalent of

Two old men doing a prank war

The problem is that the pranks aren't uh

Good for anything alive

Actually what if the Great Game was just the Chaos God equivalent of a prank war

Also fun fact

Slaanesh used to use Neo-pronouns (at least according to one cult)

This was back in 1986

THE HERETICS ARE USING PRONOUNS!!!

[outer wave]

FUCKING PRONOUNS!!!!

[opaque coyote]

Actually imagine a comedy where the Chaos Gods are literally just

4 teenagers

Doing a prank war on each other

[outer wave]

Warhammer Highschool

[opaque coyote]

Like it's seemingly in a normal suburban neighborhood

The Dark King is their dad

Malal is just that one emo sibling

And then it switches back to like

Planets being consumed by chaos

People becoming corrupted

Sacrifices being made and people dying

And then it just goes back to Slaanesh jokingly throwing a water balloon at Khorne

The Emperor is just viewed as the equivalent of like

Candace from Phineas and Ferb

"I'm gonna tell [REDACTED] and you're gonna get so grounded!"

[rose thorn]

Chat should I cowboy max or xeno max in RT

[gray umbra]

cowboy xeno

[opaque coyote]

Xeno Maxxing

Cowboy Maxxing

How about

Both

[rose thorn]

True true

Might be a bit much tho

A xeno pistol build

Guh this is hard

[gray umbra]

shuriken pistol and neuro disruptor

it fucks

fusion pistol until yu get the neuro one

[rose thorn]

Oh cool there is a harlequin pistol

[gray umbra]

yeee

[rose thorn]

Yeah but I mean role play wise

Also do the uh

Genestealer cult weapons like the bio blade

Need a proficiency?

[gray umbra]

i never got that far into the dlc yet

[rose thorn]

Damn

(Tbh I base my character off of Necromunda ideas lol)

[gray umbra]

wiki item lists arent updated yet 😦

[opaque coyote]

Imperial creed be like "NOOO YOU CAN'T USE XENOS WEAPONS!!"

Meanwhile the average Rogue Trader

"Haha shruiken launcher go zoom"

I honestly kinda wish we got more Imperial factions that try using Xenos tech. Like I always thought that it would be cool if some

Deathwatch Marines added some Xenos tech inside their PA

[rose thorn]

Deathwatch

They do

Lmao

[opaque coyote]

Oh

Cool

[rose thorn]

They use xeno guns

Too

[opaque coyote]

Yeah ik that

Just thought that was the limit

[rose thorn]

No lol

[opaque coyote]

And even then. I heard only like

Radical Deathwatch factions use it

[rose thorn]

?

Not really

The Sargent of DW veterans model uses a necron sword

[opaque coyote]

Ah

Nvm then

That is sick

Could make some really cool designs and well

[rose thorn]

Oh I’ll space pirate this shit lol

But yeah

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I remember seeing like

Tau Space Marines designs

And I remember liking it a lot

Mainly cause the armor was much more angular and shit

It looked cool

And I thought

"Man. That would make for a sick Deathwatch design"

[rose thorn]

Okay time to start

[opaque coyote]

I also find it funny that as soon as a drukhari Haemonculi landed on Terra

They literally got an overdose due to the amount of suffering

Imagine having your planet be

So garbage that a Haemonculi literally starts tweaking out like never before

[rose thorn]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[rose thorn]

source?

[opaque coyote]

I think it's from

The Vaults of Terra: Dark City

No wait it's the Carrion Throne

[low gazelle]

IM SO DEAD 😭

[viral halo]

Every beach bar I go to is filled with swingers

Wrong chat but I’m letting it stay

[wind stone]

meanwhile actual slannesh dgaf

it just wants you to witness it and become captured by chaos

seeing how every single lifeform has its own subjective idea on what is the most perfect form of beauty known to it

[tall needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/939235701042577409/1304558440286261301/d373f83ac9617e717cf86d6586294dd00ed91815c62482fbeb7376f74788617d_1_1.mp4?ex=672fd439&is=672e82b9&hm=3cdbdeacc2ba8d4494a2f5fdd0136bf0af99c37e259d29e20211e339eb1bc279&

speaking of slaanesh

(i know its iron warriors but still)

[wind stone]

the daemonculaba thing I don't get why people mald over it so much

it's chaos

it's supposed to be fucking insane and gross

[tall needle]

this is why

[wind stone]

was there any proof to those?

[tall needle]

revealed to me in a dream

[wind stone]

[tall needle]

[wind stone]

oh wait I just remembered one thing that might top the deamonculaba

there was like some dark elf succubus who took control of the wych cults and a large portion of commoragh but got backstabbed by her homonculus when her campaign against cadians went wrong and she was forced to flee

which ended up with her basically becoming the equivalent of a deviantart inflation fat fetish that couldn't move

the homunculus then put a cage over her like one of those comical wacky villains and airlifted her to some high tower in comorragh so everyone could take the piss out of her

and then vect is there at the side going "just as planned"

although being a grotesque fat basterd in a cage is about on par for the race that turns people into living furniture

[jade holly]

Avernus? Small world huh

[wind stone]

you seem familiar

I haven't played smite or etc in ages

[rose thorn]

what do you think GW’s next big reveal gonna be

[hallow plover]

A price hike 😉

Otherwise, have the christmas boxes been revealed?

[tough haven]

In a wrath and glory one shot, should I even bother giving players XP?

[hallow plover]

Meh

[tough haven]

Also I'm trying to decide if I should use mobs or not, since for example, one scum has 4 wounds, wheras a mob of 4 scum also has 4 wounds, not sure which option is better to try to make the combat challenging but not unfair for the players (I've never dmed before)

[tough haven]

idk how to build combat encounters in it

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

S2D minis, Craftworld Eldar or Krieg minis, spring release for AoS

[rose thorn]

New S2D or is it the battletomb and spear head?

[arctic talon]

Battle tome and spearhead

srry

[rose thorn]

Lol it good

[arctic talon]

GW's like

release schedule slowed down really hard this winter

for reasons beyond my comprehension

[rose thorn]

Supposedly new warcry edition is gonna come out next year

They introduced a lot of mechanics and shit like last time

That only affect a few warbands

But yea

Slaves to darkness is a pretty complete army

I hope that they get their demons back tho

[arctic talon]

💀

Someday

belakor won't be lonely

[rose thorn]

HE HAD HIS OWN ARMY

ITS INSANE

like with rules

it was very funny

he was a stealth army lmao, teleporting, summoning units, freezing units in place

[opaque coyote]

Probably because it kinda takes a step too far in the """sexual""" area of things

Like it's okay to spill somebody's entrails

But showing a nipple is also as "disgusting"

[tough haven]

Anyone here have any experience making combat encounters in wrath and glory? I'm struggling to make balanced encounters for one shot that are difficult without being unfair

[tough haven]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-scared-fright-gif-1407771759511089766

40k fans when anatomy

[opaque coyote]

So basically combining both kinda

Uh

Ew

[tough haven]

I mean it is a horror to be a part of

fate worse than death type shit

[opaque coyote]

True

Again I

I can't say I like it

Cause actually imagining it made me gag

But it's something equivalent to that?

[tough haven]

I will say it did accomplish that

and thats a bravo

[opaque coyote]

I guess it's good horror?

Yeah

Good horror

[tough haven]

Trying to make gang encounters that arent A. just a shitton of goons and B. far too few goons

[opaque coyote]

I think it helps that it's the Iron Warriors that did it and not like a Slaaneshi faction.

So you know it was done purely because they thought it was

"""efficient"""

Cause if a regular Space Marine is asexual

Then the Iron Warriors are somehow even more asexual than Khorne.

[opaque coyote]

Make some big goons with small ones?

Idk what game or Tabletop planning you're on about. But it's a good way to have variety

Like have some elites mixed in with regular enemies

[tough haven]

Wrath and Glory, dnd esque RPG

[opaque coyote]

Oh that's cool

[tough haven]

what I dont get is so like should I be making mobs (groups of enemies that count as one single unit) or seperate enemies

[opaque coyote]

Mobs with a bit of separates mixed in

Depending on how hard you want the encounter to be anyways

[tough haven]

cause a ganger has 4 wounds, but if I make 4 gangers into a mob, each one only has 1 wound, so like whats the difference besides more attacks with less defense

heres the rules for it

kind asounds like 1 damage kills an individual in the mob each shot guarenteed, but its harder to make it pierce several

[opaque coyote]

Have some mob gangers close to the party.

With individual enemies taking potshots at them. Acting as pressure while they deal with Ganger Gang #9291

That's the best idea I can give as a layman lo

[tough haven]

sounds legit

probably gonna have the gangers come in waves

and have each wave try to ambush you

cause gangers are dicks

[rose thorn]

off topic

an officer of the greycaps

who are like, the elite mercenaries of greywater fastness

tell me chat

this is an AELF WITH A GUN

[queen laurel]

Their basically your average, Cities but put a lot more emphasis into technology and steampunk

For them a steam tank is like easy to produce and is very low tech

[arctic talon]

Don't see anything wrong with that smh

[low gazelle]

ahem

gentlemen, men of culture

I have a proposal

[celest dome]

conventionally attractive
Not really a big proposal...

[opaque coyote]

I have a funny idea

What if the Tyranid Hivemind finds the 40k galaxy

Hell

Like one of the worst fucking experiences it has ever had in its life(?)

And the only reason why it stays is because of a very stupid thing

Sunk-Cost Fallacy

Basically it already expended too much Biomass to just cut it's losses and fuck off

It's already too deep

So they keep sending parts of themself. Hoping that by wiping out the Milky Way. They can actually gain something.

[glacial prairie]

Where can I find more information for how to make banners for chapters?
I am not finding much material for the Aurora chapter standard that is codex compliant.

I only found one banner for 5th company

[storm jungle]

You can look at pre-existing banners for Chapters and just copy/make you own elements from there. Successor Chapters usually get jackshit visual media-wise

[glacial prairie]

Idk. I am just getting into the lore and I already know that the banners I have found are not complieant since they don't have a place to insert company numbers, unless you have to use the trim instead

[green loom]

Just use the stock ancient banner

Vaguely follow that structure

The codex is pretty flexible with how you show shit like heraldry lol

[storm jungle]

^

Again, just yolo it lol

[glacial prairie]

Aurora is supposed to be specifically compliant though

[green loom]

Yeah and Compliance is extremely nebulous

As opposed to what most fandom memes say

Heraldry specifically is like a "Do whatever" area lol

[storm jungle]

^

It very much does not matter.

heraldry is literally just fancy edgelord iconography

[rose thorn]

Yee I’m just surprised they mentioned it in the lore

[rose thorn]

Grey water is the number one producer of fire arms and are at a constant war with the Sylvaneth

It’s to the point alarial had to come in and personally pause the war

[queen laurel]

yes because they produce so much pollution

[rose thorn]

Yee

[queen laurel]

i mean if you're a faction made of trees and your neighbor is like one of the worse factories in the planet you would be pretty pissed too

[rose thorn]

Alarial had tell the Sylvaneth that they need to leave 1 road that leads to and from the city

[rose thorn]

Grey water is also in ghyran lmao

Like the heart of ghyran

[queen laurel]

yeah that's why it's so funny

the only reason it doesn't get so bad is because ghyran is good at filtering out the air outside the city so it doesn't spread further

[rose thorn]

Lmao yeha

[queen laurel]

but if you're in the city it is the most polluted hell hole you can live in

[rose thorn]

They should expect a visit from kragnos soon lmao

Since it’s the only thing in the realm

That won’t heal it self after being destroyed

[queen laurel]

yep Lmao and hopefully let's just hope those guns they have are strong enough to hurt the God of earthquakes

[meager oriole]

Is DARKTIDE canon?

[celest dome]

Yesn't

It's lore is

The gameplay isn't

[queen laurel]

yes

[celest dome]

Ludo narrative dissonance

[storm jungle]

yeah DARKTIDE™️ is canon

[celest dome]

Are we killing 50 Beast of Nurgle per day, no

Are we killing some Beast of Nurgle

Yes

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much

[forest orbit]

yes

[queen laurel]

and story wise it may as well be canon

[storm jungle]

I mean it is.

its more gameplay-wise where it gets fizzy

[queen laurel]

oh it is?

Because I've read multiple arguments over and over again saying that the story isn't

[storm jungle]

otherwise all our actions are canon, it takes place on a single planet/narrative that doesnt affect anything which is the rule with most 40k book/side story content

[queen laurel]

what can i say people literally throw the terms all over the bloody place

[storm jungle]

Literally every single warhammer game that gets official stamp is canon.

it only gets goofy when it comes to gameplay feats

[queen laurel]

Malum Caedo going on a crack crusade is Canon?

damn

[storm jungle]

Boltgun is more of a joke game so idk about that one lol

i was talking about stuff like Dawn of War and whatnot

[queen laurel]

alright then thank you for the clarification because this makes this guy even funnier

[storm jungle]

Ironically his is even more believable than Cado lol

especially considering the feats of people like Ufthak in novels

[queen laurel]

i mean hey, he did all that for just a hair squig

i can believe orks to be that petty and spiteful

[celest dome]

DATS BECOS GREEN IS BEST

[queen laurel]

YEZ

[queen laurel]

oh yeah Dils

so i was planning to add something to my ork oc for his lore and decided it would be sick if he had a Maw-Krusha as pet in 40K, but it is an age of sigmar creature so i was thinking, can i just make up a planet where he found these things to be native in

and decided to tame one for himself

[celest dome]

Just have it some weird Squig

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-get-fake-rat-evolution-evolution-of-rat-gif-22933490

[queen laurel]

i guess that can also work

alright then thanks for the idea

[celest dome]

Behold Flight

By Squigs

[queen laurel]

i mean hey a Carnosaur is mentioned in the book warboss

||The beast was a foul piece of work, but he
had, in an odd way, earned Armenius’ respect. Not actual respect, he hastily
added to himself, nothing that meant the ork deserved anything less than
utter annihilation by any means necessary or available, but the respect you
might show a mighty carnosaur which had been brought to bay on a grav-
bike hunt||

so not the most ridiculous idea i suppose

[celest dome]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Carnosaur

Not the same type of Carnosaur

Its more like the LM one in fantasy

[queen laurel]

welp can you blame me warhammer is not good at that department

Like Both of these are fucking called a Gargant

i love orks and Gargants but it's not fun to try and remember that they are separate things

[storm jungle]

pretty much yeah, remember warhammer narrative stuff is built on excuses

[queen laurel]

FUCK YEAH WE BALL

[wind stone]

in lore da orkz can put squig brains in pretty much anything even other orkz so its not beyond the realms he took a big beast and got a painboy to put a squig brain in it

[queen laurel]

yes i know that but i want it to be more less basic than that

[wind stone]

actually you remind me of some old lore

da snakebitez

they used to tame boars

[near wasp]

They just trap a giant in a metal box

[wind stone]

and have whole cavalry lines of boarboyz

[queen laurel]

that's Feral orks

[near wasp]

They are the same thing

[wind stone]

nah snakebitez are actual space klan

they just follow da old wayz

thats why in old 40k eds you could mix and match WHF parts with 40k parts

for snakebiterz

[queen laurel]

Snakebites use Squighogs

boars are used by feral orks

Snakebites can use them but they are master breeders and beast masters so they can basically make squigs that are better than boars

[wind stone]

oh yeah you're right

[queen laurel]

yeah Feral Orks are basically primitive orks that have not been exposed to technology

snake bites are aware of technology but they don't like it

[wind stone]

nothing stopping your ork OC from being feral though to begin with and getting a tough mount that only gets tougher

before probably becoming a freeboota or something

[queen laurel]

my ork is merc and i have a way to just write him genetically altering his squiggosaur to become a Maw-Krusha

[wind stone]

that works

he might also keep like squig clones on ice of his fav squigmaw

[tough haven]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/vF9Dh1wma3QGt3p1uvK4p75KdKkqymwSwP0IaHxKSuA/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb36RLnbwAE5bvu.jpg%3Alarge

I’m only posting this because cawls fucking servo skull is killing me

Btw is the cawl action in the pre Guiliman books worth getting them for? (I love cawl)

[green loom]

May as well just get Fall of Cadia

[tough haven]

Just fall of cadia?

[tough haven]

Unrelated question, I’m trying to have a fight with gangers in my one shot where there’s an artificial timer in the form of them burning/destroying records, where after a certain point they destroy the missive that they were given by the cold trader that the party is trying to find. I’m not really sure what that missive and other info would look like or what they would have access to, like if they’d have cogitators or data slates

[tough haven]

Also I'm trying to come up with info that would be like kinda useful to connect the identity of the cold trader (A minor noble of a house with rumors of xenotech trade) but is less useful than the main piece of info, which would be in a room locked behind a cogitator to unlock it

[celest dome]

Never go wrong with Velum Scrolls.

[tough haven]

Yeah I got that, I just gotta figure out what the content of the scrolls would be

the useless ones would have deals for water trades (the gang controls the water purification facilities locally and extorts people for it), or for records of various deals

But I'm trying to figure out semi connecting information to identify that this cold trader is apart of said noble house

The main piece of info will be a encrypted data slate because this noble isnt stupid enough to hand unsecured blackmail information to random gangs

the data slate will be more difficult to get information out of the longer the fight goes on, as they attempt to corrupt or destroy the data on it

Does all this seem plausible?

[celest dome]

Maybe scroll that has the adress and codes toward the real info

[tough haven]

The address of the cold trader?

and codes how?

also I'm realizing it might be kinda unrealistic for gangers to even keep records

maybe they were keeping them to try and double cross this person later if they didnt get their payment?

I just dont know how to leave clues without it being really obvious

[wintry scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpo2dOQHRK0 1:09 What does the pilot say here? Sounds like he says "fuck"

[queen laurel]

yeah i'm Pretty sure that's what he said

[wintry scarab]

Thats a word in 40k?

[queen laurel]

yes?

i mean it's a very much appropriate word of expressing how much **** the universe throws at you

[wintry scarab]

I know words like shit and bastard are used but they always seem to replace fuck with something else

[queen laurel]

they do but Fuck is one of the most consistent swear words in the world

makes sense why it would survive into the 41st millennium

and plus a lot of worlds speak gothic

So it has definitely good enough reasonings that it would last that long into the future

[wintry scarab]

Im looking through the comment section and people are saying this is the first "fuck" in 40k. If that is in fact what he says

[crystal forum]

i usually see frag being used instead of fuck since 40k is still PG-13

[storm jungle]

Its not

"fuck" has been said before in Crime novels too

this is however the first major media usage of it

[queen laurel]

yeah major media wise OK sure but in setting wise?

[storm jungle]

Its mostly due to censorship laws when its come to literature rules in the UK

[queen laurel]

Far from it

[storm jungle]

its very weird and niche but idk the details behind it, but thats largely the reason why they always avoid f-bombs in novels, i guess animated media is a different thing

[crystal forum]

you can describe somebody being disemboweled by a chainsaw sword but you cant say the F word

[storm jungle]

Yep society moment.

Nudity bad but violence good.

Or just f-bombs in this case lol

[queen laurel]

OK so in a setting known for it's crushing depressingness you can describe a baby getting eaten by a chaos cultist but you can't say the F word?

[storm jungle]

Its up there with "We can show the most violent shit ever done to this person because hes a robot not a human"

[crystal forum]

it's oil not blood trust me

[queen laurel]

michael bay moment

[storm jungle]

its the same with how you can bypass movie ratings slightly by using other bodily liquids when someone is hurt or damaged instead of red blood

censorship is very funny

[queen laurel]

It's just weird to be honest because you can literally explain an ork tearing a human limb from limb and biting his head off but the F word is not negotiable?

[tough haven]

Or showing a nipple

[storm jungle]

Its been a thing with censorship media since the 90's so idk

[crystal forum]

media censorship was started by karens so dont think about it too much

[queen laurel]

Man people are weird

[wintry scarab]

Transformers moment. In kids media, getting a scratch and it bleeding is too far but seeing someone get torn apart brutally is fine. Its just a silly robot, who cares lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah back in the day they used to cut up horror/action movies to absolute bits due to violent scenes

To the point that sometimes the movie didnt make sense lol

the creators usually appeal to the studios since the more high your rating is the less chances it has to be distributed

[queen laurel]

you would think they would have sorted everything out with like an adult tag or something at this point but you know the world sucks So what can we do

[storm jungle]

which like, well if you wanna make money is not good lol

[storm jungle]

That came later.

Censorship regarding most violent things is much more lax now

[queen laurel]

thank goodness

i want to read about a guy getting his head lopped off with a chainsaw

[wintry scarab]

keep in mind that like 60 years ago, a woman showing her legs was considered outrageous

[storm jungle]

^

[wintry scarab]

Also, in dartkide, is it new that when you stim, your screen goes fuzzy? Or is it a graphical setting that got reset or something? Or is it lore?

[simple helm]

Yes it’s an intended effect
U can turn it off with mods

[wintry scarab]

Oh, so im guessing its lore? I always thought it was strange how we got sanctioned to use the stims

[queen laurel]

Combat Stimms are very common things

[wintry scarab]

Well yeah, but not combat stims produced by the heretics lol

[queen laurel]

it's not made by them though

[storm jungle]

Yeah the ones the cultists make are super corrupted/glowy green shit.

[storm jungle]

Graphical setting.

I think it was uhhh

the fuck was the name

[queen laurel]

we basically just analyzed it and made our own version that is safe

[storm jungle]

The shiny light effect option, the one JJ Abrahms always uses

FUCK WHAT WAS IT

[wintry scarab]

im in the psykhanium and its not doing it anymore

[wintry scarab]

Also wait, i actually knew that but just forgot. Still my point kinda stands. Strange to base our stims off the heretics

[queen laurel]

technically to be fair we are basically just you know copying the facilities they make it and then have our own now

and plus their tech is still ours but just use for a bad purpose

[storm jungle]

Theres not much to "base off" of

its a circular prop with an injector and liquid

[queen laurel]

Yeah like

it's just combat drugs that are made for operatives

[wintry scarab]

i guess yeah, fair enough

[wintry scarab]

Im pretty sure i was bugged. When i stimmed my whole screen went like mega fuzzy for a few seconds.

[storm jungle]

might have had lens-flare on

that makes that effect wild

[wintry scarab]

yeah, idk

One last thing on the stims. Its a shock to me that they still dont have a breif stat screen thing when you look at them. To this day, i still have no clue what the blue one does lol. Im guessing it speeds up your actions or something but still not sure.

[storm jungle]

There isnt a stat screen because its not that hard to figure out what the stimms do. Its kindergarten tier color coding.

[queen laurel]

increases your speed and firerate

and also your melee

[storm jungle]

Also quell rate if you a psyker too

[queen laurel]

also less stamina usage

[queen laurel]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3106281738 here

[storm jungle]

👆

[wintry scarab]

Tbf, id say they arnt really self explanatory. I first thought that the blue one was a speed boost and i never knew that the red one gave you armour pen.

Also the existence of that steam post kinda backs my point

[storm jungle]

Considering almost the entire playerbase basically figures out what they largely do id say its pretty explanatory. And like if you dont get it you can just go experiment in the psykanium and figure it out that way too.

And its the same color coding as per the potions from VT2, so if you got any experience at all you'd instantly know what they do.

The steam post is more just people wanting even more stat details on what a basic feature does as with anything.

[queen laurel]

yeah Darktide is very much a figure things out yourself game

What builds you make what perks on weapons you put on

and figuring out stimm usage

[forest orbit]

Idk i kinda figured out what stimms did after like 5m of playing with them

tho mine like Dil mentioned comes mostly from VT2

"This is a red syringe, it must mean big damage or something"

"Blue has arrow/lightning mark, its probably speed related"

etc

[wintry scarab]

Idk, i think a quick "Med Stim: Heals wounds, purges corruption" as an example wouldn't hurt.

[forest orbit]

Meh its not that big of a deal imo

[wintry scarab]

I mean yeah, in the grand scheme its not that big of a deal, but i bet that a bunch of new/casual players still have no clue what some of the stims do.

[forest orbit]

Considering they barely even know more basic gameplay features thats not anything new

[queen laurel]

It can depend on the player because like I have no experience in tide games besides dark tide but when it came out I was like

green heals
yellow for cooldown
red for more damage
and blue for speek

some players pick up a game faster than others

[low gazelle]

Idk what they do

But I can guess

[low gazelle]

The devil giving us an exact stat page with values in any game?

Never

Devs*

It autocorrected to devil lmao

Might as well be with how much data mining some people do

[storm jungle]

Then use them more

[opaque coyote]

Honestly some believe that the Chaos Gods are interesting because of the fact that they're familiar.

And some want more Eldritch themes in them

Personally I think they have the right amount of both if that makes any sense.

I would love to have a bit more nuance. With them being depicted closer to Warhammer Fantasy. But overall I think I actually like them for the right amount of familiarity and not familiarity.

[outer ruin]

Watched this video, I hope that we get Plaugebearers and/or Rinda Karnak as a Herald of Nurgle

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bMhEdtq09I4

[opaque coyote]

We know what anger is, what sadness is, etc. But we don't really know ourselves that well.
There are parts that are simply just hidden from our conscious mind.

I think that's what the Chaos Gods represent

The potential depths we can let ourselves fall into.

Without even knowing that you are falling.

I like that part. It's just too bad that most of the people that have more complex fallings are SMs due to the Horus Heresy and all that.

[young pecan]

Yeah I really like the scene with Fabius and Slaanesh

That did a good mix I think

[opaque coyote]

Since most of the normal human cultists fall literally because they want more than two meals per day

[opaque coyote]

Yeah.

The right amount of intimidating power. The power of something both familiar and alien. Fabius was falling apart while desperately trying to deny it.

I have heard of a fanfic where the Chaos Gods actually had "good" parts. Because no being can exist without a bit of nuance. But due to being Chaos. They literally just locked them away in a warp realm and prevented them from ever reaching out to the outside world.

So that they can continue ruining the universe without anybody telling them "No".

Anybody significant at least

Kinda like having that little voice telling you

"Y'know maybe you shouldn't inject 8 needles of drugs made out of people"

And then just ignoring jt

[young pecan]

I thought it was that each god expressly did have a good side, but because the whole universe sucks all the time, the bad parts are now nearly their whole shtick

[opaque coyote]

[young pecan]

Like how Nurgle is health, regrowth, fertility or something

[opaque coyote]

Yeah Nurgle is a Life and Nature god ironically

The problem is that also includes things like

Parasites

Viruses

[young pecan]

Maggots

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

Etc.

Basically Isha was the typical Nature God

And she is locked away and constantly tortured

Because Nurgle is like a Toxic Boyfriend

[young pecan]

"Take a hit of this delectable broth brah"
"Please no more"

[opaque coyote]

Like Nurgle represents just Toxic love in general

Which is why he's my second favorite because I have seen that shit before

And it is terrifying on a primal level to me

[young pecan]

Nurgle is my favorite god tbh, he's relatively simple but it's a cool thing

[outer ruin]

Nurgle and Tzeentch are my favorites

[opaque coyote]

Khorne will just stab you.

Slaanesh at least is pleasant for the first days or so.

Nurgle will torture you, while stating that they love you. And it's for your own good.

[young pecan]

Slaanesh doesn't get enough good representation, Khorne seems one-dimensional but then I've never seen much about him

[arctic talon]

There isn’t any complexity to khorne

It’s just kill them

[young pecan]

There could be the anger that comes from a desire to protect the things and people that you love

[arctic talon]

The only complexity to khorne came from Norscans exclusively

[young pecan]

But it just devolves into base anger

[opaque coyote]

Yeah definitely. Kinda wish Khorne just had the martial shit all to himself tbh.

Like I get why Slaanesh would also encompass martial mastery.

But also it would be more interesting if it delved into other stuff more

[outer ruin]

Pre-heresy EC were my favorite traitor legion before I read A Thousand Sons

[young pecan]

I like that Nurgle's followers will at times break free of the pyro-vision-esque illusion and see how disgusting and horrible and wrong everything is, tweak out, then snap back into the illusion

That is good horror right there

[opaque coyote]

Then again both Khorne and Slaanesh encompassing Martial Mastery is probably why they hate each other lmao

[outer ruin]

Flight of the Eisenstien was a really good showing of Nurgle

[opaque coyote]

Literally just a brother and sister constantly fighting each other for a figurine

...God the idea of two kids pulling at an expensive figurine makes me cringe

"NO DON'T TOUCH THE TITANS!"

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it's quite fucked. Especially since Nurgle also represents Depression

Like... God I can't believe I'm saying this.

Suicidal Idealism was strangely comforting?

And I feel like Nurgle's "love" represents that. Because it doesn't matter how far you've fallen. It doesn't matter anyways. You're gonna die soon. You're.. """"free""""

And that's why he's probably the scariest to me

Anyways actual serious conversation aside

Female Space Marines (real)

"Screw the Geneseed. I can pilot this shit myself "

• "Brother" Alice

[young pecan]

Big woman enjoyers will look at this and fall into a deep depression

[outer wave]

Man, her last collab with Cali and Irys was pretty rad

[outer ruin]

Trust me, 40k is not lacking in big women

[opaque coyote]

By idiotoftheeast

[outer wave]

God....

[opaque coyote]

Honestly this made me laugh way too hard

Mainly because of the Krieger whispering "Should I kill myself?"

[opaque coyote]

Imagine trying to date somebody and they immediately whisper to themselves

"What is this... Weird feeling? Should I kill myself?'

[outer wave]

I meant more the fat tiddie but yeah that would be wild

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

Tig biddies

My boobs are my shield

[outer wave]

God I need a GF and a life

[young pecan]

The most accurate part of Darktide is the women having no cleavage because everyone in the Imperium is malnourished as fuck

And there not being "perfect model" faces

[storm jungle]

The only supermodel imperials you will see in 40k is usually fanart anyway

[arctic talon]

in universe propaganda

as well lol

[storm jungle]

or Celestine i guess whos got cheat codes

[young pecan]

You begin the game by describing how horrible of a childhood your character had and mfs are still surprised that we're not playing as League of Legends ass characters

[arctic talon]

Celestine is like

literally a reanimated corpse

perfected with warp energy

she doesn't count lol

[wintry scarab]

Hows terra doing? Whats it like? Just filled with high society and stuff?

[wintry scarab]

Also i just saw this. Brother, you dont need a life nor a gf. What you need is to do crack and kill people. Worked for me

[arctic talon]

horribly

There's a ton of poor people

its an adminstrative capital

[storm jungle]

Its a hive-city on steroids

[arctic talon]

^

its literally

one of the shittiest hive cities

[storm jungle]

the entire surface is cities upon cities

[arctic talon]

even around the Palace its bad

[storm jungle]

and yeah as Wolf shit its literally a shithole

[arctic talon]

the singular shrivled up grape being a luxury

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Nobles live a terrible life mostly

the ones at the very very very top don't

The average person starved to death

after the great rift opened

but that didn't put a huge dent in the population

even with the rampent supression of riots

and cannibalism

[storm jungle]

people like to fuck and pop out of kids so no surprise

💀

[arctic talon]

unironically

the mass famine and daemon invasion

made the planet more stable

due to how many people it killed

[storm jungle]

for now anyway

give it a month

[wintry scarab]

So whats the whole situation with the big man on the chair then? Is that just like a super well guarded area and everything else around that is just shit ?

[arctic talon]

The imperial palace is super well guarded and not everything around it is shit

The actual administrative buildings are pretty “nice”

It’s just everything else sucks

[young pecan]

That's kind of a surprise honestly

I thought because of all of the terraforming tools the Imperium has that Terra would be a lot better off

And considering it's the Holy Capital of the Imperium of Mankind (tm)

[rose thorn]

hey did those deathwatch rules release?

[arctic talon]

No

It’s not December yet

[rose thorn]

oh oka

[crystal forum]

hows the video game going wolf

[arctic talon]

Wdym

[crystal forum]

the anime game about racism and adventure

[arctic talon]

Fine

So far

[opaque coyote]

Everybody seems to be keeping up their Mewing streak though

Seriously Everytime I look at their faces

I just think of

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

[opaque coyote]

It's also why most of them get into debauchery

Because being constantly worried of being assassinated

Gets to you

Also I think malnourishment wouldn't be a thing for soldiers.

At least in the beginning/just being deployed

Probably would be after a few months or so of battling

The food tastes like garbage but it's supposed to at least give enough nutrients for you to continue going typically

Basically kinda at that stage of

"Hungry but not seriously so"

Basically what I'm saying is

They would be calorie deficient

But they'd at least have their vitamins

Catachan probably eat a lot as well tbh

So that they can keep their muscles

[arctic talon]

It probably isn't

[opaque coyote]

Yeah Imperial food is often described as like

"Ultra efficient" or whatever

And also tasting like complete garbage

Corpse starch and the like only comes in extremely desperate situations

like idk

"Tyranids are fucking dropping from the sky"

type of situations

[arctic talon]

Arcane Season 2 is great so far

my warmongering GOAT tbh

[rose thorn]

I don’t get how you like, hit someone with a crow bar in movies and shit

Like what point are you trying to hit someone with?

[arctic talon]

Any point

preferably the sharp part

its a metal rod

[tough haven]

Depends, are you trying to open them, or close them?

[arctic talon]

Like

its a blunt force trauma weapon

with a sharp bit

[tough haven]

Its kinda hard to do it wrong

[arctic talon]

its not perfect for killing someone

but it'll absolutely work

[tough haven]

stab it into them like a piece of rebar if you want

choke them with it if thats your thing

[tough haven]

violence is very freeform

[arctic talon]

like

you have a sharp end

thats hooked

you can bash them with either side of it

[tough haven]

Still trying to write this one shot, I'm trying to decide where I want this xenotech dead-drop to take place, and where I want the BBEGs lair to be, like if it should be a hidden blacksite type deal, or a hidden in plain sight noble's holdings

[late whale]

Did the leagues of votann get lore?

[arctic talon]

they're getting a book

[late whale]

Took em

uh

how long

2 years?

[arctic talon]

1 year

well

under 1 year ig

LoV came out summer 2023

wait

wtf

nvm

They came out Novemeber 2022

[late whale]

So 2 years

[arctic talon]

yeah

lol

[late whale]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dvyXzdbIpMI I came to ask after suddenly seeing this dreadanon video

[arctic talon]

its by gav thrope

so its going to have a lot of lore in it

unfortunately its also by gav thrope

[spare osprey]

Weird question, do we think cadian style purple eyes could develop on any world near a warp tear or an abundance of warp activity?

Or was it just an eye of terror thing

[arctic talon]

Imo yes

But Cadia is special in that the eye has been there so long + so close

[spare osprey]

Mhm

I’m curious about a situation like caliban specifically

Cause you had the warp tear near it effect the wildlife and forestry of the planet, so I’m curious if something like that coulda popped up

[queen laurel]

that also confuses me like, Shouldn't they have display more drastic mutations because of their proximity in that

but apparently their eyes changing color is the most drastic change

[arctic talon]

[tough haven]

Theyre cadian though so they're just built different

[gray umbra]

Im sure theres some handwavey explanation too

Faith does have power

[opaque coyote]

I am at least 80% sure that they do actually have increase mutations

but they just uh

...

cull them more

I'd also imagine the "standards" would be lightened tho

Like if you got a 6th finger on your hands

A fucked up eye

whatever

Who cares? Grab a gun, Daemons are coming to fucking murder us

[opaque coyote]

By McBearBoi

idk about you but he seems pleasant

[arctic talon]

Arcane season 2 making me want to start an Escher gang with stolen bits of enforcer gear

It’s over