40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

rather then be way more efficent

[rose thorn]

which was so expensive it was useless

[arctic talon]

like yeah

the new plasma guns he made are great

ignore the fact when they overload

[rose thorn]

oh yeah

[arctic talon]

they literally can vaporize a marine

[queen laurel]

Wait is that the reason why desolators squads look shit

[arctic talon]

Idk

desolators have very little lore

for actual practical innovations Cawl has made

the only ones are like

bolt rifles

[celest dome]

That's a bonus in my book

[arctic talon]

and uh

I guess storm speeders?

If repulsors and impulsors had treads

the only real change would be you couldn't hot drop them as high

[queen laurel]

Okay say a guardsman discovers a fully intact stc

[arctic talon]

but they'd probably need less repairs

[queen laurel]

How much would they be rewarded

[arctic talon]

depends

on what the STC is for

in any case they're getting very rich

[queen laurel]

I heard there was a guards men that was given a planet because he found just a fragment of the dang thing

[arctic talon]

it was an intact STC

for a combat Knife

[queen laurel]

Oh I see

[arctic talon]

the main draw was the alloy

for the combat knife

not the knife itself

[queen laurel]

So like if it was say i found an stc for a functioning titan gun

They will probably give me a lot of things right

[celest dome]

Very rich

[arctic talon]

very rich

[celest dome]

Small Rogue Trader level of rich at minimum

[arctic talon]

in any case its not like the Mechanicus doesn't invent shit

its just

slow

[celest dome]

Dwarf grind

[arctic talon]

and the official process to get things approved is both soul crushing and dangeerous

yeah

its literally like Dwarfs in WHFB

except you're more likely to get backstabbed

[queen laurel]

Yeah that makes sense that i think about it

[arctic talon]

the big thing is

a lot of priests """discover""" new STCs

[queen laurel]

Probably can afford a small fleet after i get paid

[arctic talon]

that they invented

or created from existing STCs

to avoid the beuracratic hellhole

[celest dome]

The good old STC duster

[queen laurel]

Stcs what are they again

[arctic talon]

that is getting it approved by your forgeworlds ruling council

[queen laurel]

Are they like you ask them how to build something and they will give you a blueprint

[arctic talon]

Standerd template construct

[celest dome]

Standard Template construct

[arctic talon]

aka the blueprint

[celest dome]

Can be anything that can be used to create blueprints

[arctic talon]

you feed into an STC(standard template constructor)

they have the same abbreviation because uh

reasons

[celest dome]

A rare relic can be an STC because you then create the STC for production or research afterward

[queen laurel]

Oh they are basically blueprint containers

[opaque coyote]

"Yes I found a new STC and DID NOT invent anything."

"Why are there 3000 tanks already made? Uhhh... Well I was so excited that I already built them! Yeah..."

[celest dome]

Not always

[arctic talon]

I found them

Sometimes an STC can be a physical thing yeah

[celest dome]

Sometime they're just stuff

[arctic talon]

like a tank chasis

[celest dome]

Like the Knife was just a strange knife

Then an STC was created on

And not all STC are made to work on the constructor afaik

[queen laurel]

They can also create things right

So they're like both a container and fabricator

[arctic talon]

no

the constructor is its own thing

that also uses the abbreviation STC

[celest dome]

Ye, cause GW suck

[arctic talon]

blame necromunda

[queen laurel]

F*** sake

[arctic talon]

for that one tbf

[celest dome]

Blame GW

[arctic talon]

No

I'll blame munda specifically

[rose thorn]

didnt the planet they gave the guys who foudn teh STC get eaten by the nids

[arctic talon]

lol

[celest dome]

Don't touch my baby

[arctic talon]

No

[celest dome]

Munda is blameless

[arctic talon]

Its literally Necromunda's fault

that STC means 2 different fucking things

[rose thorn]

its specifically house van saars fault

[arctic talon]

Yeah

more specifically

blame the writers

all the way back then lol

[queen laurel]

Wait it's also necromunda the basically gave them semi sentient ai right until it just evolved into the votan ancestor cores

[rose thorn]

there is MANY

there is men of iron on necromunda

[celest dome]

Are they ?
Don't remember them rn

[rose thorn]

there is a giant ai super computer owned by van saar

[arctic talon]

There's men of iron in munda yeah

[rose thorn]

you can play them too

[arctic talon]

well

you can buy them in a campaign

[rose thorn]

on tabletop

[arctic talon]

they kind of suck lol

[rose thorn]

yeha

lmao

[arctic talon]

mfw

you roll a 1

they leave forever

[rose thorn]

i think, one mission or campaisn has a fixed one

[arctic talon]

there goes 100 fucking credits

[rose thorn]

play outcast and make it your leader

[arctic talon]

LOL

[rose thorn]

then it never leaves

[arctic talon]

based?

[celest dome]

What's their name ?

[arctic talon]

Uh

its just enslaved automata or something

iirc

[queen laurel]

Okay if i am remembering Ancestor Cores are stcs right

[arctic talon]

Enslaved Iron Automata

[queen laurel]

But like they are basically the final form of it

[arctic talon]

is the name

[queen laurel]

You know fully sentient and can answer things

[arctic talon]

from this supplement

[queen laurel]

Where can i read ambot lore

[arctic talon]

idfk

[queen laurel]

Zog

Oh well we ball

[arctic talon]

the main necromunda book

ig

thats the book they were introduced with

[rose thorn]

puling up necrovox

[arctic talon]

this one

is where ambots were introduced

aka the thing that made half the gangs in the game not dogshit

[celest dome]

Yesn't
They are STC in the sense that they're relics that could be mass produced if they were able to study one
But they are also much more than that.

[rose thorn]

Iron Automaton

[queen laurel]

Yeah let's also says apocrypha and house of blades

[rose thorn]

thats sit

[queen laurel]

House of blades is the book for the amazonians right

[rose thorn]

that boko is out of date btw

[arctic talon]

I'm aware

[rose thorn]

oh oka just wanted ot make sur elmoa

[arctic talon]

still good for lore

[rose thorn]

true

god i hate ambots, and esher

[arctic talon]

in any case it was funny

[rose thorn]

ye

[arctic talon]

how terrible Orlock, Van saar and Delque were

before that book came out

[queen laurel]

Why do you hate ambots

[arctic talon]

they're unfun

[rose thorn]

orlocks are still terrible

[arctic talon]

to play into

Orlock are literally fine

[rose thorn]

teleported behind my entire gang

[arctic talon]

you need the jump pack dudes

[queen laurel]

Oh tabletopwise

[rose thorn]

they are i just got molly rocked wheni played them

[arctic talon]

for Orlock is the issue

imo

[rose thorn]

my dm banned them lmao

[arctic talon]

What

????

[queen laurel]

Okay that makes sense

[arctic talon]

WHAT THE FUCk

okay then yeah

Orlock are terrible

LOL

[rose thorn]

he said he didnt want vehicles

[arctic talon]

but

those aren't vehicles

what

[rose thorn]

yeah

[queen laurel]

Okay jetpacks aren't vehicles

[arctic talon]

Orlock jump boosters

are literally like

[queen laurel]

Why the hell would you ban them

[arctic talon]

mandatory to how the gang plays

[rose thorn]

our ash wate nomad player was very confused

i ended up warm bolter spam

and lost every game lmao

[arctic talon]

along with the Orlock Wreckers

[rose thorn]

w/ my orlock

[arctic talon]

ike ????

You need jump boosters and wreckers to play orlock

which is unfortunate but w/e

[rose thorn]

lmao yeah

[arctic talon]

it fits the themeing

but yeah if your Gm banned those then yeah

they're atrocious lol

most of their power budget is in those jump boosters

along with your better then average starting gear since you get discounts and free mesh armor

[queen laurel]

Are they like a high mobility army that requires that to be effective or?

[arctic talon]

they're a generalist gang thats high mobility

Orlocks do everything decently

and get discounts on combat shotguns, bolters, and plasma

you have decent melee

downsides to Orlock is you pay a premium points wise

for specailists

[queen laurel]

Okay then why do they rely on jetpacks

[arctic talon]

because

they're cheap + give a ton of movement options

[queen laurel]

I see

[arctic talon]

Necromunda is very verticle and jump boosters let you avoid issues

with traversal

Orlock prospects got the zoomies

[rose thorn]

i sure do hope the starter box includes the most important parts of the gang :D

[arctic talon]

due to jump boosters

thats a good joke

I think the only good starter boxes for gangs are like

Van Saar and Goliath lol

[rose thorn]

orlock loves ashwastes apparently,s ince they got good cars

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[rose thorn]

lmao

[arctic talon]

Orlock has good vehicles

Eschers starter box is fine

Orlocks is fucking terrible

Delaques is a dumpster fire

[queen laurel]

Are Goliaths just orks then

[arctic talon]

Cawdor's exists I guess

[queen laurel]

They bring in big guns and they hit you hard

[arctic talon]

Ork guns are terrible

[rose thorn]

who plays cawdor

[arctic talon]

so Goliath aren't like orks

[arctic talon]

I know like one person who does

she likes the rats

and the redemptionists

[queen laurel]

So then low mobility high damage tanks?

[arctic talon]

Goliaths honestly are like Marines

tbh

[queen laurel]

Like they shoot good hit good but they don't have a lot of speed

[arctic talon]

Elite, good melee, good weapons, good shooting good durability

pay a premium on everything

[queen laurel]

Oh you mean the elite play style where they are expensive a s***

[rose thorn]

but you get to modify your base stats

which is pretty nice

[queen laurel]

But everything hits like a truck

[arctic talon]

yeah

honestly the weakest gang without any supplemental stuff is prolly Orlock

[rose thorn]

i still have no cleu what delaques gimmick is

[arctic talon]

strongest gang without supplemental stuff is Goliath easily

[queen laurel]

With supplements then?

[arctic talon]

deployment stuff, really good champions, Strong pistols

downside is

[rose thorn]

stickmen

[arctic talon]

your basic weapons are atrocious

[rose thorn]

lmao

[arctic talon]

Escher or van saar

Van Saar gets to puke out high quality armor and guns

has excellent mobility and durability

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/dinkleberg-fairly-odd-parents-mr-turner-angry-gif-16449151

Echser...

[arctic talon]

The only downside to Van saar is like

you don't get a lot of gangers

and they suck in melee

[rose thorn]

also alto of aoe attacks

[arctic talon]

Escher is just good melee, good ranged, squishy, debuffs

buffs

[queen laurel]

You don't like them lore wise tabletopwise or both?

[arctic talon]

Very good champions

[rose thorn]

tabeltop

[arctic talon]

Escher pound for pound has the best champions

tbh

for what you pay for them

[rose thorn]

literally they use to have a champion model taht was unkillable

it was so stupid

[arctic talon]

Goliath is like second place

[celest dome]

Slave Ogryn Grenadier made my friend mald

[arctic talon]

for best champions

[rose thorn]

but apparently its killabel now

[arctic talon]

worst champion award goes to uh

Cawdor

lol

[rose thorn]

shocks of shcoks

[arctic talon]

Cawdors suck

[rose thorn]

no\

it goes to GSC

[arctic talon]

Oh

[rose thorn]

our champion has 1 health

[arctic talon]

true I forgot GSC are a gang

LMFAO

[rose thorn]

fair

[arctic talon]

oh god thats terrible

why

[celest dome]

GSC deemed worst gang, asked to go back home

[arctic talon]

Champion with 1 Health

I love how both cawdor and ash nomads

can do the

Juve with no armor and a shitty gun strat

[queen laurel]

slave ogryns are gang right?

Or are they like a unit

[celest dome]

Ye

[arctic talon]

slave ogryns are a gang

very scary

but points heavy generally

[celest dome]

Overboss
Underboss
Loboslave

[arctic talon]

tbh

[celest dome]

Think there's another

[queen laurel]

Okay then do they have their own book?

[rose thorn]

they are proabbly the best starter gang

[queen laurel]

Like house of chains something like that

[rose thorn]

dont let your vansaar player dm trick you

[arctic talon]

its just the ogryn no?

Van saar is terrible for new players

lol

It teaches bad habits

[queen laurel]

They don't have a rule book with a story right

[arctic talon]

they do

iirc

[queen laurel]

For the slave ogryns

[celest dome]

Correct, my mind is bad

[queen laurel]

What is it called

[arctic talon]

its house of chains

[queen laurel]

Because i have the goliath house of chains book

[rose thorn]

okay so slave ogryns are just, a box of brutes

but its very fun

and very easy

[queen laurel]

Oh they share it with goliath

[arctic talon]

yeah

[rose thorn]

use to

well

gang rules yeah

its weird

all of the universal stuff is in all teh *new books now

[arctic talon]

yeah

the uh

Core rule book

iirc

and Necromunda apocrypha

or whatever

[rose thorn]

remember when people had a break down over the factions on the front of the book

[arctic talon]

which cover

Apocypha?

[rose thorn]

yeah

[arctic talon]

its just the escher bounty hunter no?

[rose thorn]

people thought that delaque was gonna get squatted

[arctic talon]

core rule book has a funny cover

[rose thorn]

no it had like, 4 factions on the front

[arctic talon]

yeah no delaque

[rose thorn]

yeah

[arctic talon]

thats the core rulebook

[rose thorn]

lmao

[arctic talon]

its got a weird gang selection

lol

Palanites is a ???

but w/e lol

[rose thorn]

to be fair these are all the most necormunda gangs of all time

[arctic talon]

I agree

[rose thorn]

3 house, 1 lawful, 2 unlawful

good split

[celest dome]

Slave ogryn
Ash Waste Nomads
Esher (why)
Enforcer
Van Saar (I think)
Either Orlock or standard gang

[arctic talon]

I think they should have done all the houses + palanites personally

Its orlock yeah

[rose thorn]

orlock

thats specfiically orlock lmao

[arctic talon]

the dude is based on one o the

prospect minis

iirc

[queen laurel]

Okay what is the big three gangs of necromunda

[rose thorn]

i forgot are the squats lawful gang or a disjointed gang

[queen laurel]

Like the three consistently popular gangs

[celest dome]

In numbers ?

Oh in real life

No idea

[rose thorn]

like can be lawful or unlawful

i forgo tthe word for it

[celest dome]

They should have rules for Spider Gang, have it let you pick some Guardsmen that are sent on a mission back home or something

[arctic talon]

Squats are a lawful gang

[rose thorn]

play outcasts

[arctic talon]

Popular? Escher, Van Saar, Palanites is what I've seen

[rose thorn]

ah

[arctic talon]

tbh

Palanites are easy as shit to learn

• fun to paint

[rose thorn]

the 3 strongest gangs lol

[arctic talon]

downside is you uh

ignore a lot of stuff

[rose thorn]

lose yoru freinds

oh yeah that too

[arctic talon]

tbf Palanites fall off a cliff

after early game

lol

Like yeah you start off with all flak and bolters

but thats about it lol

[rose thorn]

pretty sure badzone have the opposite porblem

since yo ucan do illegal stuff as badzone

[arctic talon]

you can't get specialists for creds

either with Palanites

[rose thorn]

oh reallY?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

you can only get them from campaign advancements

[rose thorn]

oh wo

w

[arctic talon]

so yeah Palanites are rough

Past the early game

like yeah its horrifying its 10 dudes with flak and bolters

but like if you kill a specalist they got

have fun

[rose thorn]

this statement has opposite meanings if you mean orlock or palatines lmao

[arctic talon]

lol

[rose thorn]

i hope all the gang get an expansion liek vansaar did from secundus

an upgrade sprue beyond weapon choices

[arctic talon]

Hive Secundus's art goes hard

tbh

[rose thorn]

making new units

it DOESSSSSS

[arctic talon]

I love this art so much

[celest dome]

I want something like an Esher Psyker that is just high as a kite off Chems, and some melee units with Chain Pruner

[rose thorn]

i need to play again but im busy and i dont trust strangers not to be asses about my time schedules

[rose thorn]

[rose thorn]

3 gangs in this pic btw lmao

[arctic talon]

Yep

Cawdor is cool

Well

[rose thorn]

i should try the new gang

[arctic talon]

Redemptionists are cool

[rose thorn]

the uh

[arctic talon]

Cawdor themselves kind of suck lol

[rose thorn]

treasure hunters

[rose thorn]

yeah, supposedly they are a swarm faciton

with a gamt that has bullet penetration

and good aoe

and limited gang sizes

or asthetically u men

[arctic talon]

Asthetically

[rose thorn]

god my first campaign was dog shit, the gm was taking the piss

[arctic talon]

Cawdor units also

Suck ass on the tabletop

But you get like

Way more of them lol

[rose thorn]

i literally need to win 1 game, i had the thing that gives the opponent liek 500 bucks if they forfieght

i offered it

this was w/ the dm who was playing vansaar

[arctic talon]

Wait

[rose thorn]

and he was like 'yeah i need the money, i dont need the zone, but i wanna destory your guys instead'

[arctic talon]

Why was the gm in the campaign

[rose thorn]

idk

[arctic talon]

Crigne

[rose thorn]

yea lol

i see why you dont do that lol

now

'vansaar has help from the cop god'

I heard it’s fine if your Gm plays like

Npc gangs

But yeha it was a bad experience

And apparently a lot of new players had a bad time too

[arctic talon]

Yeah that’s what you’re supposed to do

Not an actual gang

[rose thorn]

Lol

[viral halo]

I don't play necromunda for fear that I'd be too good at it

[arctic talon]

Nomos is my child in rogue trader and he can do nothing wrong

[viral halo]

taco bell goes hard when you ain't got a mf in your ear telling you it's corpse starch-adjacent

[gray umbra]

Glorious nutrient paste

[gray umbra]

I know the guy is basically banned but this pretty much night lords being "based"

[paper haven]

Oh, we banned him?
I guess that makes sense

[arctic talon]

banned who?

[paper haven]

Earlier today. A guy was calling Night Lords based and things devolved into racism

[storm jungle]

Uh he went on a racist tirade out of nowhere the moment Eli spoke about something unrelated.

[arctic talon]

Oh

[storm jungle]

Then another racist guy showed up an hour later

two-for-two

[arctic talon]

Oh the Halo Stars are in Imperium Nihlus

[paper haven]

I missed the second guy.

[arctic talon]

I did not know that shithole could get even worse

[storm jungle]

He basically said like 4 racist sentences and got insta-banned

it was pretty uneventful lol

[paper haven]

Aw, not even entertaining

[arctic talon]

Something something skaven

I can't go on

without being banned myself

[paper haven]

First one was a bit of a ride. Then Eli showed up and instantly things went off the rails.

[viral halo]

I would say the night lords are big into diversity: they kill every one

[paper haven]

But yeah, Night Lords are cowards. Explicitely so.

[rose thorn]

Oh hey what ||cult is on the RT ship anyway?||

Is it a ||major cult or a new one||

[gray umbra]

||bloodspun web||

[arctic talon]

||Pauper Princes for GSC||

[arctic talon]

For death cults its a new one

[rose thorn]

FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Did they say ||pauper princes||

[arctic talon]

It’s many sub cults of them but the item you get from the gsc quest is ||explicitly called a pauper princes thing||

It also requires you to be an dogmatic to use which is weird

The dlc cult themselves are the Cult of the Ravanous Star who are ||a pauper princes splinter||

And the subcults as a whole are called the “Three Sorrowful Phalanges”

[dusky scroll]

When a tomb world gets attacked, do the necrons wake up and defend? Or, do they just simply die sleeping?

[arctic talon]

The canopteks wake up and the entire tomb complex begins the process of awakening

Which slowly wakes up Necrons

Starting with more essential personnel

Like Crypteks and Lords

[green loom]

The longer you take, the worse your chances are

Conveniently portrayed in Warhammer 40k: Mechanicus

[arctic talon]

They can then attempt to speed run awakening other Necrons

If the situation is dire enough

[crystal forum]

finally an even harder game mode for the minority of players who though auric damnation was easy

[arctic talon]

Damn straight

Also each of the dynasties in rogue trader represent one of the alignments

Chorda: dogmatic

Winterscale: ||iconoclast||

Von Valancius: ||heretic||

[dense mortar]

So are the Wolf Guard pretty much the hardest Space Marines to exist?

[crystal forum]

i cant say i wont be disappointed since i will literally use 0 of the new additions but hey at least they know their target audience

[arctic talon]

Theodora in rogue trader is ||literally a full blown heretic at the start of the game, she’s trying to talk to a Greater Daemon||

[opaque coyote]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VY_ckj_xaZg?si=NvvgTft2WLsQdCX6

[queen laurel]

@celest dome the FLC Lord

Arbaal the Undefeated

[celest dome]

Good to know

[small grail]

what the hell did i miss

[paper haven]

Ok I'm gonna try to summarize:
Night lords are based
Night lords are like the US military
US military does war crimes
Kislev is racist
Tau aren't racist because Asians don't value human life
Something about Israel
Banned.

[dusk patrol]

Impressive speedrun tbh

He built up a really good combo multiplier before he went out

[viral halo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663805467612676099/1303459042382843944/LIfeLessons.gif

[dusk patrol]

Tbh that guy had it coming, he got his ass kicked by a 60-70 year old man like that?

He weren’t gonna make it on those streets

Didn’t have the makings of a varsity gardener

[paper haven]

Dude curb stomped his arm

[dusk patrol]

He beats him up prior to that

[viral halo]

Feech la Manna

cooked his ass

[dusk patrol]

Iirc it was for a super nonsensical reason too, dude just got out of prison and was mad someone he knew wasn’t gardening

[paper haven]

I assumed the guy who couldn't move to prevent his arm from getting folded like a step ladder had been beaten up prior to this

[viral halo]

Such a good show

[dusk patrol]

Truly

[arctic talon]

You can accomplish uh

Three of them I guess?

Yirlet’s thing, Abelards thing and Cassia’s thing

Also maharazi I guess

So make it 4

[low gazelle]

So

What did erebus do?

[dusk patrol]

Some tomfoolery

[crystal forum]

chicanery

[storm jungle]

HE ORCHESTRATED IT

EREBUS

HE DEFECATED THROUGH A VOIDSHIELD

[normal notch]

I look in this channel to see this

[queen laurel]

Welcome Kas

[storm jungle]

look when i see a Better Call Saul reference i gotta take it

[queen laurel]

yeah it's par for the course here

[normal notch]

that’s a reference?????

[storm jungle]

Yes???

https://youtu.be/8RtOgIgDrvk?t=14

prob one of the most memed scenes on the show lol

[shadow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-breaking-bad-no-one-called-saul-saul-goodman-jimmy-mcgill-gif-26091407

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-meme-6-year-olds-with-their-brand-new-3ds-grandparent's-open-casket-funeral-photo-gif-16415735376929649833

[shadow plover]

deserved

that's what you get for dying

[storm jungle]

[gray umbra]

Ah yes the Istvaan Voidroof

[rose thorn]

Wait a minute; is the emperor just darkseid?

Is the imperium just apocalypse

[gray umbra]

The emperor is omniman

[storm jungle]

Darkseid runs Apokolips better than half the Imperium lol

https://tenor.com/view/darkseid-eyes-gif-2143660059024533041

[celest dome]

Ain't difficult though

I'd trust Nagash more to run a city than the Imperium

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[rose thorn]

He has, it just happens that all of his citizens don’t need:

resources

[gray umbra]

Citizens of the imperium just need faith and a nice helping of wall goop

[crystal forum]

omniman fighting invincible scene but it's the emperor beating up lorgar

[raven stone]

Not a high standard when all Darkseid needs to do is tell his underlings “meet quotas and kill Superman, otherwise I don’t care shit”.
/kinda sorta shitpost.

[storm jungle]

He truly is a great leader.

[lapis verge]

Partly cause ya know....

he's still alive

[rose thorn]

Average apokolips citizen works for 12 hours then plays Minecraft for 12 hours

[rose thorn]

W/ out context this looks terrible lol

[storm jungle]

what the fuck

lmao

[queen laurel]

what amount of context will save this

[outer wave]

So they made a NSFW channel as a joke but its for only pets

[rose thorn]

Not safe for warhammer is a channel for posting pets

[outer wave]

Yeah that is kinda funny at least

[queen laurel]

but like why call it that

[rose thorn]

because its funny

[queen laurel]

i suppose it is

[celest dome]

Trying to be edgy I gues

[queen laurel]

But like you need a heavy amount of context too save that line

[celest dome]

Kids trying to be edgy often are doing things without thinking on how it'll be

[lapis verge]

The implication is peak comedy

[rose thorn]

GASP OMFG finally thought of an idea for my cult

Make it on a planet that is surrounded by a ship graveyard

[queen laurel]

cult of the Rusting Galleon

Sounds way too fantasy i think

[outer wave]

Not galleon methinks

Rusting is cool though

[arctic talon]

based

[paper haven]

Warhammer NSFW stuff is sort of missing the point of warhammer

[rose thorn]

They load up fucked up ships with genestealers and shot it at other planets

[paper haven]

Sort of like a slingshot version of a the Trojan Horse?

[celest dome]

Cult of the Rotten Carcass

[outer wave]

Cult of the Orbiting Carcass

[rose thorn]

There’s a cult that does something similar

That shoots asteroids full odds gsc spores

[queen laurel]

they sound orkish as hell

[paper haven]

Crude but effective

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but tbf

The pics are hot so idc

Jokes aside

You could say a lot of NSFW miss the point

For whatever media they're doing

But people generally don't care about that when they're looking up NSFW.

[paper haven]

A fair point, I suppose

Rule 34 exists for a reason

[opaque coyote]

Unless if it's artistic NSFW like "art model" NSFW instead of "neuron activation" type NSFW

In which case

It kinda depends?

Like I think one of my favorite art pieces represent an imperial governor

It's very NSFW

Very disgusting

[arctic talon]

Which one

[opaque coyote]

But also very intentionally so

I would tell you exactly but I'm at college right now

[arctic talon]

least degenerate guide on being an imperial noble tbh

[opaque coyote]

I think the painting series is called "Imperial Nobles"

[queen laurel]

hey Elitewolf, like if i'm making home brew and i want a super powerful psyker, at what level of psychic power is it considered for them to be OK it makes sense and it's not bullshit

[opaque coyote]

And the one I'm talking about specifically shows a fat ass planetary governor

It's disgusting

I love it

[arctic talon]

Idfk Beta?

Beta is usually the limit of what level of psykers get to survive sanctioning

Alpha level psykers usually just get the 🔪

[queen laurel]

aight got it

[opaque coyote]

I remember a fucked up short story where a kid was an alpha plus Psyker

And accidentally got his black ship into some shit by merely existing

And he saw the four betting on his soul

[arctic talon]

L

L child

[opaque coyote]

So he decided to save the ship and

Kill himself

[arctic talon]

Sounds about right

[opaque coyote]

The black ship was let go

[queen laurel]

is Eisenhorn a beta Psyker?

[arctic talon]

I don’t think so?

I don’t remember either

[opaque coyote]

I had the idea of two twins being born. I talked about this before

One being an Alpha Psyker, the other being a Blank. With them somehow adapting to each other presence that the Psyker doesn't like

[arctic talon]

Mhm

[opaque coyote]

Feel agony

[arctic talon]

Oh fun fact you can give Heinrix ptsd

By visiting a black ship

In rogue trader

[celest dome]

Isn't he noted as Alpha ?

[opaque coyote]

Awesome

Average 40k experience

[arctic talon]

Maybe?

It’s post chair

Iirc

That he gets much stronger

[opaque coyote]

I think he started out as a beta?

[arctic talon]

Idk the ultimate traumatic event in rogue trader

Is going to comorroagh

[opaque coyote]

Fucking hell now I'm reminded of those stupid "Sigma" videos

"HOW THIS BETA BECAME AN ALPHA CHAD!!!"

"TOP 10 INQUISTION TIPS"

[arctic talon]

Giving my entire party except Argenta horrific trauma by taking them to comorroagh

And other things you can only do with toybox

[opaque coyote]

Essentially I kinda imagined them just cancelling each other out.

Like if they're close to each other. They're practically just baselines

But as they get farther apart. Their powers begin to show

[queen laurel]

man release comorroagh was fucked

[opaque coyote]

Basically the reason why neither has been bulgeoned with a stick when they were fetuses

Is because of that

I could imagine they would have an instinct to stick close

Like they're instinctually aware of what would happen if they didn't

[arctic talon]

The real torture was manually reequipping everything

[charred jewel]

wtf you talking about Henrix took it like an absolute champ. The one who gets messed up the most is Abalard

[arctic talon]

Romanced Heinrix absolutely has severe trauma lol

He just hides it from you if you’re not romanced with him

Like a lot of Heinrix’s actual emotions

You don’t get them unless you’ve romanced him

[opaque coyote]

That's weirdly wholesome

In a way?

He trusts you enough to show his emotions

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah he trusts you enough

[opaque coyote]

Too bad it's uh

IN A BLACK SHIP

[arctic talon]

No

[opaque coyote]

oh right

[arctic talon]

The trauma thing from comorroagh is both during

[opaque coyote]

IN COMMARRAGH

[arctic talon]

And after it

Idk there are worse places to trauma dump tbh

[opaque coyote]

Isn't the lore that any human that tries to understand it's scale goes insane

Or tries to travel through it without a guide

One of the two

Provided you don't get tortured

Killed

Or both at the same time

[arctic talon]

Sort of

[opaque coyote]

And then being revived from near death to get tortured again

[arctic talon]

That just gets you kidnapped and tortured

[opaque coyote]

Commarragh is an interesting place

Like genuinely I like it as a setting

[arctic talon]

Romancing Heinrix is kind of mandatory

To finding out how he feels about situations

[opaque coyote]

Tabletop game makes interesting setting

Wow

[arctic talon]

In actuality

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

Which is an odd choice

[arctic talon]

What a surprise

I’d like a tidegame in comorroagh

During the disjunction event

From the great rift

[opaque coyote]

But yeah I do like the sub realm where's there is a bunch of Xenos

Just hanging out

As mercs

[arctic talon]

Human mercenaries are more trustworthy then drukhari ones

[opaque coyote]

But that makes me wonder how the fuck do the Deldar even tolerate them

[arctic talon]

Shame humans are so frail

[opaque coyote]

No like

[arctic talon]

They’re useful

[opaque coyote]

Just random minor Xenos

Major xenos

[arctic talon]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

Etc.

[arctic talon]

They’re useful

That’s why

[opaque coyote]

Although I am wondering two things

A) How the fuck do you even get access

[arctic talon]

Escaped slaves mostly

[opaque coyote]

Like how is that a hotspot

[arctic talon]

It’s a known location, sometimes unwanted slaves are dumped in it

Some mercenary xenos races have access

Like kroot and ssyleth

[opaque coyote]

B) I assume the Deldar at least try to

Pull back the betrayal a bit

Mostly because if you betray your mercs constantly

They just won't take business from you

[arctic talon]

Yeeeep

Don’t stab your mercenaries in the back too hard

Or too much

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I'm assuming that most jobs from Deldar actually are

Uh

Trustworthy isn't the right word

"Much less of a chance to get shortchanged and/or tortured"

[arctic talon]

Idk I think a tide game during the disjunction would be fun

All 4 of the gods daemons as enemies

[opaque coyote]

Honestly it would be funny to imagine Khan just there

[arctic talon]

And you have planet of choices for playable options

Kabalite, Wych, and Wrack are an easy 3

[queen laurel]

oh a chaos tide game sounds nice

[opaque coyote]

Imagine like a bunch of human slaves going into the sub realm.

And they find Khan drinking in a bar.

[arctic talon]

And you can get fancier with the enemies anyways

[opaque coyote]

Honestly that sounds fun

Eldar weapons are pretty cool as well

[arctic talon]

Since kabalites, wych’s and wracks are “higher level so to speak

[opaque coyote]

Especially Deldar weapons since they shoot

Black holes

[queen laurel]

Orktide is still what i want

[arctic talon]

Idfk what the 4th slot would be

Or the 5th slot

Shove in a ssyleth and a Corsair

Idfk

[opaque coyote]

Personally?

Chaos Worshipper Roguelike

[arctic talon]

Mandrake maybe?

Idk

[opaque coyote]

Honestly if only because it would be entertaining to imagine like

Hades-like interactions with the four.

[queen laurel]

i mean if we're going darktide, we need the mage the marksman melee assassin and tank

[celest dome]

Could also have it be Ynnarie, for more current time game

[arctic talon]

Kabalite marksman, Wych melee fast, wrack tank, mage isn’t allowed in comorroagh

[opaque coyote]

Like y'know how Hades has like

Duo blessings and if you choose one, the other god attacks you and then gives you the blessings after you survive the battle

Imagine that but with the four

It would be entertaining

[arctic talon]

Which is why I bring up man drakes

Then can occupy a very “magey” vibe

Along with being a melee thing

[opaque coyote]

You could also have an Iron Throne be a class

Equivalent to the Mechanicus class in Darktide that doesn't exist

[arctic talon]

Die

[opaque coyote]

I am sad about it dw

But seriously though playing as a fucking

Nano machine filled Metal Soulless Deldar would be xool

[arctic talon]

Also first time dying can be canon in a tide game

Haemonculi just brings your ass back to life

And tosses you out

[opaque coyote]

You get like

-1000 to your money

Or something

If you have 0, you just get debt

[celest dome]

Ynnarii tide game:
2 Eldars: Warlock and Autharch
2 Dark Eldars: Succubi and Haemonculi
1 Harlequin

[arctic talon]

Also works

[celest dome]

Against a full tide of enemy

[arctic talon]

In any case I like comorroagh and I like the disjunction event

That occurred in 8e

[queen laurel]

what about a Grotesque for a tank?

[arctic talon]

Too big

Also more limited on options for weapons

[queen laurel]

too big, damn it

[celest dome]

Haemonculi getting a Grotesque as a summon maybe ?

[arctic talon]

Wrack smaller + same size as a normal drukhari

[arctic talon]

Would work

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

[arctic talon]

Grotesques are pretty fuckin big

[opaque coyote]

The Ynnari is interesting primarily because of the

[arctic talon]

Incubi also works as a “tank”

But incubi don’t use guns

[opaque coyote]

Mix of different eldar

So of course they barely use that part

[arctic talon]

Would be weird to see a ynnari haemonculi tbh

[opaque coyote]

[queen laurel]

Darktide monstrosity level?

[arctic talon]

They do though

Like

One moment

[celest dome]

I don't know enough about the Ynnari

[arctic talon]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/e/e4/Grotesque_in_Battle.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20200925190332

That’s a Nob

At the grotesques feet

[outer wave]

Wait are Grotesques any kind of species or they usually Deldar?

[arctic talon]

It depends

Usually a mix

But it can be any species

[opaque coyote]

The Tau can attest

[arctic talon]

Drukhari grotesques sometimes submit to the procedure willingly

[opaque coyote]

Poor bastards

[arctic talon]

If they’re part of a coven

[celest dome]

Most who undergo the long, excruciatingly painful process of transformation are captured alien slaves of Drukhari realspace raids or other Drukhari subjects who have displeased the Haemonculi or their Kabal's archon.

[arctic talon]

It’s a new experience

[queen laurel]

jesus

[arctic talon]

He just wants to give you a hug(rip out your organs)

[celest dome]

Haemonculi getting 2 summon ability, either 2-3 Wraks, or a Grotesque

[arctic talon]

Ngl why not 3

Let them bring out a Chronos or talos pain engine

[opaque coyote]

Like tbh people think the Tau are stupid for falling for the Deldar

But like

Have you seen the Imperium

[queen laurel]

yeah makes sense

[opaque coyote]

Have you seen how Evil they look

And they still have humans that joined them

[outer wave]

At least they arent judging books by their covers

[opaque coyote]

Of course they'd try for the Deldar

For all they knew

They were just like the Imperium

And they were delighted when they seemed supportive

[arctic talon]

They’re good people that are a part of them I’m sure

[opaque coyote]

The Tau were naive shre

[arctic talon]

(The haemonculi coven in question)

[opaque coyote]

But tbf

[arctic talon]

They literally ran into the worst

[opaque coyote]

Everyone in 40k looks evil

[arctic talon]

Of the drukhari

In their first meeting

Like not a kabal or wych cult

A haemonculi coven

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it's probably a blessing in disguise

[arctic talon]

It is

[opaque coyote]

Well not for the soldiers that turned into monsters

But the Tau learned and fully know

To fucking shoot any Deldar

Although I wonder how do the Tau think about

Craftworlders and Exodites

[arctic talon]

Craftworlders can be talked to same with exodites

[opaque coyote]

And vice versa

[arctic talon]

They’re xenophobic and don’t believe in the greater good though

[opaque coyote]

I assume the Eldar don't really care

Like

[arctic talon]

The Eldar see the Tau as naive upstart fools

Generally

[opaque coyote]

"At least this naive race isn't shooting at us?"

[celest dome]

I mean, they are

[arctic talon]

Aka how everyone else sees them

[opaque coyote]

"We said the same thing about humanity"

[arctic talon]

Beil’tan wants to genocide them

[opaque coyote]

"Oh yeah true"

[arctic talon]

Tbf humanity wasn’t naive during the daot

[opaque coyote]

Good ol Biel tan

[arctic talon]

They are upstarts by Necron and Eldar standards though

[opaque coyote]

Fair. They definitely aren't now.

Probably were like 20k years ago

Kinda wish we got more stuff pre-DAoT

But then again that would be a bit too kuch

[arctic talon]

I don’t want it tbh

No point in it

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's why I said it'd be a bit too much

[queen laurel]

speaking of the tau, they no longer have that dumb greater good god right

[arctic talon]

They do

[opaque coyote]

Maybe a couple of short stories at best

[arctic talon]

I mean it’s not fueled by the tau

It’s fueled by their auxiliaries

[opaque coyote]

Other races

[queen laurel]

they still do?

damn

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah it exists

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I don't really care about it

[arctic talon]

It hasn’t been destroyed yet

It’s whatever

[opaque coyote]

Like it's basically just

Another minor warp entity

[queen laurel]

it's not the warhammer faction if it doesn't have a god or believe in one in some way

or necrons turning their gods into batteries

[opaque coyote]

I mean they still don't believe in it tbf

It's mainly just the thoughts of random races about their perspective

On what the greater good is

[gray umbra]

The warp is weird

[opaque coyote]

And it just somehow coalesced into an entity

[opaque coyote]

Smarf god when

[gray umbra]

Its one of tzeentch's many forms

This image tingles my brain

[opaque coyote]

Honestly always thought of Tzeentch being like

Multiple beings

In one body

Basically fucking fighting and planning each other constantly

And the reason why everything goes "just as planned" is because at least a part of him actually planned for it

Even if a lot of him didn't

[low gazelle]

what a thing to wake up to

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-chuck-charles-gif-26670840

[crystal forum]

congratulations, americans

that's all i'll say

[low gazelle]

oh yea

[low gazelle]

I loved that show

[low gazelle]

No matter who won

I was waiting for the riots

[low gazelle]

Every scene was a masterpiece

[storm jungle]

Bravo Vince

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-goodman-better-call-saul-saul-goodman3d-meme-breaking-bad-gif-24027228

[crystal forum]

vince guilliman taught me that everything in mexico is mustard yellow

[crystal forum]

i'm too tired to care anymore

but shoutout to my american trans homies who will feel the psykic backlash

[queen laurel]

One of those days dils?

[arctic talon]

The joke is the dude confesses to murder but gets elected anyways in persona 5

[queen laurel]

Lore chat getting silly

Funny even

[storm jungle]

lol idk i dont follow

[arctic talon]

Lol

[crystal forum]

that's so unrealistic

[queen laurel]

[low gazelle]

funny you should say that

[arctic talon]

Unsubtle social criticism with ATLUS

[queen laurel]

Rightful segregation is crazy

[arctic talon]

The dude also has a German accent btw

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/Yk7M2jGdnxU?si=UXcXugcGcxLiPy1Q

[arctic talon]

And loves the military

[queen laurel]

God f****** damn

[arctic talon]

He’s also not even the most racist candidate for King in the game btw

[low gazelle]

There was a dude

who killed his wife

Confessed to it in court

jury deemed him not guilty

[arctic talon]

Separate but equal nations

That’s his whole uh

Platform

[crystal forum]

you're new here. half the shit we say is sarcastic

[queen laurel]

Uh i guess that doesn't sound as bad at least but

[low gazelle]

I figured but its just a fun fact

[arctic talon]

I left out the part where he wants to conquer them all

[queen laurel]

Bro what the f***

[arctic talon]

After creating them

Unsubtle social criticism with ATLUS

[queen laurel]

Yeah that of course you did you f****** among us

[crystal forum]

dude wants to be Alexander the great on new game+

[arctic talon]

There’s a lot of unsubtle social criticism in the game and it’s great

Who needs subtext

When you can just have someone rant about how the powerful talk about equality while spitting on and oppressing minorities

Before killing themselves

[queen laurel]

It's always fun when it's so unapologetically on your face

[arctic talon]

Also one of the party members being racist towards a group because their son got killed in a race riot

[dusk patrol]

Relatable tbh

[crystal forum]

side note you can still buy an original occulus quest on amazon for 350 fucking usd

[arctic talon]

Mfw when my son gets trampled mostly to death and then no one helps him as he bleeds out because of his race

10/10 would try making a party member more tolerant again

[crystal forum]

a meta 3S is 300$

[dusk patrol]

Maybe he shouldn’t have been at the riot smh

[arctic talon]

Stupid child shouldn’t have gone to school fr

[crystal forum]

education is for those who deserve it, clearly

and by deserve i mean if they're not dirty dirty undesirables

[queen laurel]

Yes they should be put in the mines 24/7

[crystal forum]

this game is japanese right

[arctic talon]

Nah they are a dirty undesirable but their father is an position of power and is Therfore allowed to attend school

[arctic talon]

Yes

[crystal forum]

shocking

[arctic talon]

ATLUS have mocked Japanese revisionism of world war 2 in persona before

This isn’t new for them

[crystal forum]

based

glad to see not all japanese studios are tone deaf

does anybody here watch anime

i've watched my first anime the other day

[queen laurel]

Used to do it consistently, but now very rarely

[arctic talon]

Sometimes