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#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
rocky gale
My greatest regret was not getting the Nicki Minaj CoD skin
gray umbra
Never before have i seen a space marine scout or kasrkin be takedowned by a nicki minaj
Until cod mw3
crystal forum
nicki noo dont call a nuke
arctic talon
peak fiction
rocky gale
Does the skin carry over into the newer CoDs?
arctic talon
I think?
rocky gale
Good
crystal forum
it usually all shits down the warzone drain
crystal forum
literally every cod game now is just a warzone DLC
gray umbra
Bo6 is its own thing
arctic talon
case took the wrong batch of drugs
crystal forum
enlisted had a zombie event this halloween and it reeked of late black ops zombies rip off
storm jungle
Case took the wrong game
rocky gale
Oh yea isn't like your character schizophrenic and there's a point where you just ||beat one of your friends to death during an episode||
crystal forum
i assumed so
storm jungle
yep
crystal forum
the cold war story sucked ass too
gray umbra
I did the 2nd mission and already knew it was gonna be slop
storm jungle
Ok but
at least the "bad ending" was hilarious
"BELL YOU DONT HAVE TO DO THIS-"
I bust a cap in your ass
rocky gale
Cold War was great
gray umbra
Zombies is fun but multiplayer seems really tiny map size wise
crystal forum
the bad ending being the one where you actually kill the people who fucking mind wiped you is so damn funny
rocky gale
CoD Roleplaying Game was perfect
gray umbra
So im back on helldivers after modding it to hell and back
crystal forum
i didnt even give addler the chance to pick up his pistol
i just shot him no hesitation
fuck that guy
rocky gale
A CoD game where you make your character, have backstory options and can even attempt to romance people is peak no matter what.
crystal forum
i did feel bad killing woods and mason though but they're bootleg eternal reboot hell characters so i just put them out of their misery
just stop using woods man
you'll never make a game as good as BO1 and BO2 ever again
gray umbra
Adlers a bitch
crystal forum
i cant even tell if we're supposed to root for him
gray umbra
Hes like hudson but with hair
crystal forum
knowing cod they 100% got money from the US military to make them look cooler
gray umbra
Cod has always been that way
crystal forum
yeah so i really dont get if they were trying to make the CIA look cool
because they only made me want to root for the soviet defectors even though their plans literally involved nuking the world
arctic talon
i cant even tell if we're supposed to root for him
you aren't
well
I think?
He's pretty definitively a piece of shit lol
crystal forum
he is
rocky gale
Yea but people love rooting for pieces of shit
crystal forum
they tried to make soviets extra evil like usual by making them comedically evil defectors
like evil villain type shit
storm jungle
knowing cod they 100% got money from the US military to make them look cooler
Late but yeah every cod game is sponsored/funded by the U.S government to some degree. Even when you fight american bad guys it makes effort to make it clear that they dont represent "our" institutions, they are a rogue element going against everything we stand for yada yada.
Principles of CIA
Bioweapon
Whos gonna tell him
arctic talon
Glowies
storm jungle
Its very much imperialist propaganda. Most people like me usually just dont care as long as the provided cotent is good but underneath it yeah its some insidious shit.
crystal forum
highly principled CIA only topples governments from yucky countries
rose thorn
Back chat, glad to see my meme caused a minor amount of turmoil in the chat
storm jungle
Lmao
arctic talon
highly principled CIA only topples governments from yucky countries
me when the CIA destroys yet another South American democracy and replaces it with a dictatorship
crystal forum
it's ok they call themselves democratic so they must be
rocky gale
I'm sorry but attractive woman = morally correct.
I don't make the rules.
gray umbra
me when the CIA destroys yet another South American democracy and replaces it wi...
Sweet liberty
crystal forum
I'm sorry but attractive woman = morally correct.
I don't make the rules.
IDF got you covered
rocky gale
Hey now
gray umbra
IDF chicks are like
rocky gale
I should have specified fictional
gray umbra
Snap my neck pls
storm jungle
Hm yes, my kind of Woman™️
hopefully the CIA sends a woman like this to kill me in my hospital bed for spreading government secrets
crystal forum
she looks creepy
idle knoll
she looks creepy
queen laurel
hopefully the CIA sends a woman like this to kill me in my hospital bed for spre...
Dude
viral halo
I have been playing the new call of duty
I only installed multiplayer
no campaign, no warzone
the gameplay is good
there are no guns
the game does not feel like it takes place in the 90s
7/10
gray umbra
No full auto sig 550
jade holly
hopefully the CIA sends a woman like this to kill me in my hospital bed for spre...
Ok but hear me out…
storm jungle
Ok but hear me out…
no
jade holly
Fair
Is there any race or story that could be a game and not be M rated in 40k?
Or is that a stupid thought and I deserve to be sent to Nurgle’s Garden for that
viral halo
Agri world stardew and the game ends with you getting virus bombed bc of a GSC on the other side of the planet
I would like a guard vs tau game
storm jungle
you can do that on cod multiplayer
viral halo
That's not tau firewarrior
viral halo
Haven't ran into any cheaters yet
queen laurel
including being aimbotted
Crazy
viral halo
The SBMM sucks tho
my KD is currently 1.5
my WL is like a 2.0
I average between 35-50 kills a game
I have to fight for my life irl every match because I'm in the sweatiest lobbies ever
the fun from cod is gone
crystal forum
it's really annoying how sweaty cod has become
plus console players are given free hacks
aim assist is utter horseshit
gray umbra
Is there any race or story that could be a game and not be M rated in 40k?
The ork racing game
viral halo
it's really annoying how sweaty cod has become
The omni movement shit is hilaruous
mfs are max payne
crystal forum
you can easily modify a controller to have insane aim assist and it's undetectable too because anticheat cant check hardware
viral halo
Just like in NBA 2k
just need to run a macro
Insane how bad sports games are rn
except for that college football game, that shit is elite
gray umbra
Sports
viral halo
Some people only play sports games
it's pmuch the same demographic/market buying them every year
crystal forum
they always have terrible reviews like at what point do you just fucking stop wasting money
viral halo
The only good sports game
is MLB the Show
genuinely is a top tier product almost every year
NBA 2k has fallen off a cliff
Madden is garbage
FIFA hasn't been good since 2017
oh and that new College football game rocks
NHL is ok but it's clear that EA doesnt give a fuck about it really
As a big hockey fan myself, I wish it was like how the old games were
crystal forum
when does EA ever give a fuck
crystal forum
keep faking growth by buying studios and canning them afterwards
viral halo
Microsoft been doing that too
We're never getting a new dishonored game
or Prey
courtesy of arkane dying thanks to Redfall
crystal forum
i was wondering why we never got prey 2
viral halo
i was wondering why we never got prey 2
The studio was pressured/forced to make Redfall, tons of them left, and then microsoft closed the studio
No more dishonored!
I'll just keep playing skyrim and mechwarrior until I fucking die
crystal forum
maybe they'll go the EA route and hire a completely different studio to just remake them
who needs sequels when you can just recycle content
crystal forum
cant wait for this dumb industry to crash and burn so they're forced to sell IP's for pennies
gray umbra
It probably wont which is the sad part
Remember when everyone though nfts in games were a good idea
Its just a bunch of suits clutching onto the next big fad
Even outside of gaming everyone and their mother is obsessed with ai
normal notch
i was wondering why we never got prey 2
Oh my gosh asking the real questions
Prey was peak
normal notch
it's really annoying how sweaty cod has become
I fragging hate it
It stopped being good at Bo3
green loom
is MLB the Show
For a second I read this as MLP
tough haven
Whats the zealot line that lists three thing and says to let them be your virtues?
rose thorn
Starting to think sigmar is going a mild bit insane
His current plan is to find a way to combine all the realms into one super realm
And use all the magic to make a barrier that blocks chaos
gray umbra
We goin pre endtimes baby
Buts theres a crack in the northern sphere that lets just a tiny bit of chaos there
rose thorn
Sigmar sneezes the last minute and blows up all the realms again
He has no clue how to completely this goal
gray umbra
Is this his build a wall moment
rose thorn
And only his closest Allies know how his plans work
rose thorn
Is this his build a wall moment
gray umbra
Lol
rose thorn
Also i doubt like, a lot of his Allies would appreciate this plan lmao
Teclis and morathi wouldn’t be happy to say the least
The seraphon are chill w/ this plan so far
arctic talon
Starting to think sigmar is going a mild bit insane
Tbh he’s just not very smart
He’s trying his best
rose thorn
Tbh he’s just not very smart
at least he didnt give his god warriors a vasectomy
arctic talon
Sigmar was not known for being very smart
arctic talon
at least he didnt give his god warriors a vasectomy
Lol
gray umbra
Is malekith/malerion still banging his mom
storm jungle
Is malekith/malerion still banging his mom
he actually makes a jab at her about it
lmao
💀 💀 💀
crystal forum
holy shit this new dan terminus album slaps in a way that makes me unwise
rocky gale
"my little magpie" 
storm jungle
rocky gale
It's adorable if we ignore the incest
rocky gale
‘Even under aeons of cold hatred I can still find the embers of my love for you.’
storm jungle
SHUT UP MOM
rocky gale
See this is good if I willfully forget the romance plot and just think of this as a normal mother/son relationship that's grown distant
storm jungle
No way Freakrathi would allow that to pass
rocky gale
storm jungle
rocky gale
Can't wait for Sigmar to use all of his god powers to smite the incest plot from canon
arctic talon
Can't wait for Sigmar to use all of his god powers to smite the incest plot from...
Malerion is also a god smh
arctic talon
I do like how they retconned his name in WHF too
Our OC dark elf do not steal
storm jungle
Lmao SHUT UP
viral halo
idle knoll
arctic talon
God this is old lol
viral halo
Warhammer memes are not funny
but when they're funny
they're funny
r/grimdank has been having a civil war this month over some fanart shit
I know they doxxed and chased away that one dude who drew primarchs cause the guy was into rape porn and gore or something but apparently it's happening again
crystal forum
did he draw his fetish into the fanart or was he just like that on the side
viral halo
did he draw his fetish into the fanart or was he just like that on the side
I have no idea
but I think someone drew new fanart
that had like an abhuman
crucified and getting raped or something
and it's started the art discourse again
storm jungle
I know they doxxed and chased away that one dude who drew primarchs cause the gu...
archonofflesh yeah
girl was into some sick shit 
lady was posting a pic of her legs IRL and asking if anyone could snap/break them like wtf 💀
arctic talon
lady was posting a pic of her legs IRL and asking if anyone could snap/break the...
Sado masochistic
arctic talon
I don’t think people should be doxxed over art like that at least tbh
It’s not like they were doing anything illegal
arctic talon
if they're posting it
They weren’t though?
I don’t think any of the stuff they posted on r/grimdark broke rules
Lol
viral halo
Just glad shes largely gone tbh
I often see her get hardcore defended on the subreddits
leg snapping is wild
storm jungle
I often see her get hardcore defended on the subreddits
when your public persona is "uwu owo skitussy uwuowowo" i guess thats bound to happen.
arctic talon
Lol
viral halo
My public persona is schizophrenic racist so when people find out I'm a teacher they're taken aback
/s
arctic talon
💀
sacred ginkgo
My public persona is schizophrenic racist so when people find out I'm a teacher ...
Just like stan
arctic talon
Idk I think it’s weird they got doxxed lol
Like yeah they were weird and their sexual preferences were
Really violent
Like
Idfk
viral halo
I doxxed someone for trolling on my minecraft server during the pandemic
arctic talon
Doesn’t really mean you should get doxxed lol
viral halo
I was 22 years old at the time
viral halo
Sent him a picture of his house
Happened to me when I was a teenager trolling a day of defeat server
I had to merely continue the cycle
and be someone else's canon event
arctic talon
Passing the trauma along
storm jungle
arctic talon
arctic talon
All trauma exists in cycles
In that case I should get ready to call the kids I’m tutoring a slur
viral halo
In that case I should get ready to call the kids I’m tutoring a slur
There's layers to this comment
arctic talon
There's layers to this comment
I got called a slur by a math tutor once lol, that’s the layers to it
outer wave
Ouch
viral halo
I got called a slur by a math tutor once lol, that’s the layers to it
that's CRAZY
rose thorn
https://tenor.com/view/dune-dune-kiss-dune-feyd-dune-part-1-dune-part-2-gif-1520...
Why is Voldemort making out w/ himself
viral halo
One time a student who did absoloute jack shit was bitching about doing homework in my class and said "when I get to college" and I cut them off and said "if" and they started sobbing
rose thorn
storm jungle
One time a student who did absoloute jack shit was bitching about doing homework...
BASED VERBAL CHILD ABUSE
outer wave
Id have planted a bomb in his car for that but thats just me
IRA member when British person walks by
storm jungle
IRA member when British person walks by
viral halo
did you watch it
viral halo
I'm very involved in the book rn
is it good
the book is like 200 pages how tf they be doing a show
viral halo
I don't have time to watch television
storm jungle
Yeah you do fatass
viral halo
just time to play skyrim and mechwarrior and crank my hog
viral halo
I'm primarily a lecturer
viral halo
I look like biff from back to the future
viral halo
My entire goal in life has been to have the physique of johnny bravo
storm jungle
clearly you are a few ways off....
storm jungle
yeah you cant lol
its how people like Da Rok and some others stay "fit"
they very much use drugs and lie out of their ass
viral halo
I'll just wait until im 38 when I can go on TRT legally
storm jungle
sometimes winners do do drugs
viral halo
Doing drugs isn't fun anymore
I feel bad for kids in college
can't do recreational drugs without worrying about fent
Oh I forgot to put this winner in here
I was talking about asimovs robotic laws w my friends
and this fucking mf goes:
storm jungle
GET OU-
also i only learned of Asimov's Law from Borderlands 2
so thats pretty messed up
viral halo
I thought he was a fictional character referenced in the movie "I, Robot" with will smith that I saw in the movies as a kid in the early 2000s
Turns out he wrote the book
storm jungle
LOL
viral halo
and invented the concept of a robot
storm jungle
Fucking hell 💀
also yeah mine was from like uh
the loader bots who you can fight sometimes saying:
"First Law disabled."
and im like whats that?
i google it and uh
💀
viral halo
Man remember when borderlands was good
viral halo
I haven't played since the pre sequel
the humor is no longer for me
(My humor consists of watching car accidents and brainrot videos when I get home from work)
storm jungle
also screaming
viral halo
Every single fucking movie trailer I see with the rock in it looks like absolute shit
I'm watching football right now and just got some stupid fucking trailer for "red one"
wtf was that
hallow plover
even the SCORPION KING?
hallow plover
my what
viral halo
Piccolo always hit the craziest poses in DBZ before getting molested by the season's antagonist
hallow plover
I've had like two steam pictures since 2010
hallow plover
god I love the ginyu force
viral halo
now it's fixed
crystal forum
old
plush mason
i google it and uh
you didnt know about the 3 laws?
nocturne crest
https://tenor.com/view/ginyu-force-pose-dragon-ball-dbz-ginyu-gif-92402395814859...
I wonder if anyone has done a 40k army in Frieza force's colours.
green loom
Every single fucking movie trailer I see with the rock in it looks like absolute...
If you've watched Jumanji then you've seen every single rock character ever
Jumanji tried to parody the chars he usually plays, but it's just a fucking Rock character
green loom
DILARA DOESNT KNOW ASIMOV
What like, the Skin in CS GO?
charred jewel
also people who like Tiny Tina should be eaten by cockroaches
YES
Borderlands is a perfect example of when grimdark is ruined for wackylight
The gritty atmosphere of the first game was perfect, it matched the ridiculous graphic-novel like jokes and attitudes to the genuine harshness and death-world like environment of planet pandora
And slowly. As another DLC was added after another. They started to make tumblr. The game. Tiny Tina fucking sucks and I always wanted a psycho to just cut that bitch up a notch
And the fat mechanic
She also was just completely unentertaining. And anyone who liked her. Or Tina. I am BETTER than you. My dick may be smaller. No GF. You may be a better fighter or have more money and be taller and have better social or intellectual skills. But I’m fucking BETTER THAN YOU in MEDIA APPRECIATION BITCH!
crystal forum
when the humiliation kink kicks in too early
charred jewel
Yeah I don’t like tiny Tina
charred jewel
when the humiliation kink kicks in too early
None of those things are true. Just. Hypothetically speaking. If these conditions exist. Me not liking tiny Tina’s gives me an edge
thorn zenith
paper haven
I wasn't aware there was such vitriol for the annoying child in those games
arctic talon
I do not feel strongly on them
opaque coyote
lapis verge
Ackshually that's a pretty good idea
Holing up against folks specializing in chemical warfare and weaponized plagues is actually not the smartest idea
Sure melee is not a good option compared to ranged but hey
Gotta do what ya gotta do when no ammo
storm jungle
She also was just completely unentertaining. And anyone who liked her. Or Tina. ...
WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING
rocky gale
It’s called being sigma
storm jungle
rocky gale
Hating women and children is an essential element of Sigma culture
crisp heath
would it be legal to have a pet tyranid?
shadow plover
you wouldn't be able to domesticate one
crisp heath
why not?
shadow plover
they're driven by a greater will and when the link is lost they go feral and only try to kill whatever is closest to them (besides other tyranids)
crisp heath
oh they do attack other nids when they go apeshit
but having a pet that wants to kill you is nothing new, ever had a chihuahua?
shadow plover
there has been instances where a tyranid has been in captivity but it often just ends in either the tyranid or the captor dying
queen laurel
why not?
if you can even capture one, you need a way to basically imitate the hive minds control
it's basically tech heresy and xenos heresy all in one
storm jungle
its like saying "I wanna own a honey badger"
that thing is literally gonna escape containment and kill you on Day 1 lol
viral halo
You can own a honey badger
viral halo
They can’t stop me
storm jungle
no
viral halo
What happened to cool game reveal trailers
storm jungle
okay grandpa time to take you home
storm jungle
Siggy is rich
theres a reason rich people die on safaris
queen laurel
so like he can probably afford something to contain a honey badger
queen laurel
theres a reason rich people die on safaris
eh a badger is smart
and if he loses fingers well that's on him
viral halo
I can contain a honey badger
storm jungle
eh a badger is smart
viral halo
In a cage like any other animal
queen laurel
Yeah and it will escape and eat your face
Yeah there was literally a story of a honey badger who thought that cages were challenges and just kept on escaping and escaping
queen laurel
also went to the enclosure's keeper's house
LMAO yeah
viral halo
I would have a remote detonator installed in its head
Batman with prep time type shit
storm jungle
bro thinks hes Charles Darwin 💀
crisp heath
ever played sins of solar empire?
queen laurel
I would have a remote detonator installed in its head
Bro thinks life can't find a way
crisp heath
you could build a massive cannon that can blow up planets from the other system, why won't imperium build something like this?
storm jungle
Because the Imperium is a dysfunctional nightmare
we also got a kill-team box that has a planet with a massive cannon
its simply too costly and "why bother" when you can just use orbital bombardment
next question
crisp heath
why won't anyone try using defibrillator on the emperor
forest orbit
why won't anyone try using defibrillator on the emperor
thats not how it works so no
viral halo
Time to take my fiber pill
paper haven
Glad to see you're all doing well
tropic olive
I came across this Reddit post and I’ve been thinking about it for a while, but honestly, there’s no solution
green loom
You'll probably just get grabbed regardless.
paper haven
If your immediate command is corrupted, you might be able to justify deserting your post to earn a nearby unit or even the higher ups. However if they are also corrupted you're kinda screwed if you try that since they'll most likely just kill you.
Assuming you don't want to go with the flow and also get corrupted, desertion is your best bet but you would still be a criminal and risk punishment even if it was the morally correct move
celest dome
Deserter might be sent to Penal Legions, Chaos cultist always face execution
So still a better pick
paper haven
Penal legions is still effectively a death sentence
celest dome
Not always, most of the time, could also be sent to other punishment,
idle knoll
true
probably what the imperium would want you to do is kill as many as you can and die a martyr right
dusk patrol
Every single fucking movie trailer I see with the rock in it looks like absolute...
60 is optimistic too
viral halo
celest dome
The Rock is a minus Actor for me.
I see he is in it, and I want to watch the movie less
lapis verge
If your immediate command is corrupted, you might be able to justify deserting y...
The correct move is not to play the game
Just turn into a Chaos Spawn silly
dusk patrol
“It’s just a little bit of terrorism, tell your mom it’s ok.”
viral halo
I got up at 5:30am to go vote
I must return to my slumber
Before my day in the wage cage begins
crisp heath
can bolters blow up ceramite armor in the lore?
dusk patrol
Yes
queen laurel
The Rock is a minus Actor for me.
I see he is in it, and I want to watch the mov...
As long as he has that stupid he can't lose any fight he gets in a movie
He's never going to be an interesting actor to watch
dusk patrol
Although normal rounds have a harder time than specialized ones
But by now basically all marine rounds are designed to pierce it and most normal ones too
crystal forum
I came across this Reddit post and I’ve been thinking about it for a while, but ...
you'd be killed on sight
dusk patrol
Kraken and Vengeance rounds being especially effective at it
queen laurel
But by now basically all marine rounds are designed to pierce it and most normal...
Do they have slug bolter rounds
Where it doesn't explode it's just a giant shell
queen laurel
You mean for the sniper rifle?
dusk patrol
Let’s them be stealthier
dusk patrol
You mean for the sniper rifle?
It can be used with other bolters to
DW basically uses them as silenced ammunition
crystal forum
you could build a massive cannon that can blow up planets from the other system,...
this is literally the plot of the new killteam planet
queen laurel
Let’s them be stealthier
I guess their logic is the lack of exploding hides them better
crisp heath
lesser rounds do
The gunnery deck must be in pieces by now. These mortals are coming from there.’
‘How do you know?’
‘Uniforms, Xarl,’ Talos replied.
Xarl, always one to need the proof of his own eyes, grabbed another human attempting to flee past. The man’s uniform looked like every other – white and generic. What was Talos talking about? He lifted the struggling man off the ground by his greasy hair, holding the officer’s yelling face close to his bloodstained faceplate. Through the vox speakers in his helm’s snarling mouth grille, Xarl’s voice came out at insane volume.
‘Tell me where you are stationed. Is it the gunnery de–’
The officer – quite deaf now – hurriedly drew a pistol in shaking hands and fired it point-blank into Xarl’s face. The small slug pinged against the ceramite, knocking Xarl’s head back a little before ricocheting with a wet crack back into the man’s own forehead. Xarl took one look at the deep red groove in the man’s skull and dropped the corpse, swearing in Nostraman. He could hear that bastard Cyrion laughing over the vox.
‘Fine,’ he said, ignoring Cyrion’s laughter. ‘Why the bridge?’
crystal forum
i read that literally yesterday
crisp heath
night lords are based
paper haven
That exchange is burned into my brain permanently
gray umbra
I like the nl trilogy but they try so damn hard to make first claw likable
crisp heath
my fav piece of chaos lore
No, Vraal was under no illusions at all. Open conflict was out of the question. It would galvanise Talos's emergent faction. One of the favoured Atramentar could never be used. It would be undeniable proof the Exalted was acting against the prophet. But not wild, unpredictable Vraal. Oh, no. Vraal would be mourned for his 'vicious temper' and 'choleric humours', while the Exalted waxed lyrical about how he deeply regretted Vraal's terrible disruption of the resurrection ritual.
His bitterness left him uncontrollable, the Exalted would no doubt say. Vraal's actions bring shame upon us all. Such disunity...
Yes, Vraal could almost hear his eulogy spoken now. The Exalted had sent him here to die, spending his life for the good of the warband. So be it.
Of course, this new plan to awaken Malcharion had to be put down with tact.
With nuance.
With subtlety.
Vraal's claws slid from the sheaths on his gauntlets. They sparked and crackled, wreathed in killing lightning.
'Brothers!' he called joyously into the vox. 'Everyone in this room is going to die!'
storm jungle
I like the nl trilogy but they try so damn hard to make first claw likable
I mean its a mix
the author very much shows them to be awful people
the readers are just usually pretty stupid
I legit felt nothing when they just started dying lol
gray umbra
I wanted to be a hero
paper haven
And then he got obliterated by an autocannon
gray umbra
Ok bruce wayne calm down
storm jungle
LMAO YEAH
Like that line would have gotten me but
ive seen so many bad guys say that exact same line that i just didnt care
cry me a river child-flayer
paper haven
Oh no the murderous cowards are dying.
crisp heath
night lords actually fight the way modern militaries do lol
I mean aside from the torture stuff
stacking odds in your favour as much as possible is the standard
crisp heath
you rarely wanna attack enemies who are prepared
storm jungle
???
paper haven
Night lords exclusively attack when they have overwhelming odds
crisp heath
what you think modern military fights pitched battles in open field?
crisp heath
Night lords exclusively attack when they have overwhelming odds
like the american military
storm jungle
what you think modern military fights pitched battles in open field?
The Tau are probably the closest thing to a "modern" military in 40k.
Aka mostly sitting around using drone strikes and tactical squads or long range combat.
aka "boring" stuff
celest dome
He's never going to be an interesting actor to watch
He doesn't care about that, he just want to look 'awesome' and get fat paychecks
gray umbra
They do ambushes and spooky things like killing your power but otherwise arent that much special
crisp heath
night lords are based
gray umbra
Otherwise its like "yeah abaddon ill help you out" and when its convenient they steal everything not nailed down and bail
crisp heath
again americans only attack when they have the advantage
storm jungle
not really
paper haven
like the american military
Not really.
The US military, at least nominally, sticks to military targets.
Night lords do not and they make no effort to do so.
storm jungle
the U.S army attacks with overwhelming force half the time
crisp heath
Not really.
The US military, at least nominally, sticks to military targets.
Nig...
such as the weddings right
storm jungle
such as the weddings right
I guess we are forgetting literally every single other engagement the U.S fought in lol
paper haven
such as the weddings right
A drone strike is not the same as operational doctrine
crisp heath
I guess we are forgetting literally every single other engagement the U.S fought...
I guess we are forgetting so far american military is more prone to war crimes than even the russians
storm jungle
I guess we are forgetting so far american military is more prone to war crimes t...
Nobody is talking about warcrimes
lets not go there lol
paper haven
Night lords exclusively and intetnionally target civilians and those that can't fight back
storm jungle
the NL are not like the U.S army 💀
gray umbra
I dont think anyone was comparing 40k armies to real ones
storm jungle
minus Kaz but yeah
crisp heath
every american conflict after WWII
attack random third world country
pull out
we killed more civilians so it's a win
storm jungle
yeah but thats not really the point rn
paper haven
This is bait
crisp heath
yeah, so basically NL are the army
storm jungle
they get fucked the moment a proper military force shows up
crisp heath
they get fucked the moment a proper military force shows up
so did plenty of people hailed today as great warriors
storm jungle
so did plenty of people hailed today as great warriors
Man
im gonna go finish my tea, brb
paper haven
What are you even talking about?
crisp heath
anyway Night Lords are based
dusk patrol
Tbh you have more in common with the Night Lords with how much of an edgelord you are
crisp heath
vikings for example routinely got decked when they fought anything that wasn't a monk or fisherman from some village yet they are praised for their martial prowess
but the moment NL do the same suddenly they are cowards
crisp heath
and I romanticize NL and would date Talos
dusk patrol
Ok
storm jungle
This is why I hate NL fans
dusk patrol
Like they suck, that’s their thing, it’s what makes them charming
storm jungle
Yeah you like them the same reason you like any chaos legion
they are just decepticons
its not that deep
crisp heath
wish NL were the ones with the vampiric trait BA have
dusk patrol
The Night Lords trilogy is about them somewhat overcoming that but almost every single main character dies to provide a way for them to do that
storm jungle
Yeah and in the end their efforts more or less mean nothing.
But people go "oh they were nice to this slave character" like okay 💀
queen laurel
they are just decepticons
I mean the decepticons are not that evil oh wait shockwave is a thing
crisp heath
chaos is meant to be edgy
dusk patrol
They did a little slight mass skinning and charnel pitting ok?
storm jungle
True homies
also yeah we arent saying their edginess is a bad thing
its romanticizing them beyond that which gets a bit grating
crisp heath
I like them because they are glorified criminals
storm jungle
this trilogy is basically all they have and if it didnt exist they'd very much just be a footnote in 40k, which they still are but this trilogy still kinda proves the point
Rapists and murderers etc
dusk patrol
Like literally one of their heresy characters was called “the Coward” because as a unique trait for a Night Lord he didn’t run from fights and strong his ground and held the line often.
dusk patrol
I don't think they actually rape though
They did before becoming marines
storm jungle
^
dusk patrol
Cause Nostramo was fucked
paper haven
Attempting suicide post Konrad got you tortured to death
dusk patrol
And the legion started selecting from the triad and ganger groups intentionally eventually
gray umbra
Most of the nls after the terranborn came from gangs or corrupt noble houses after nostramo went back to their old ways
dusk patrol
It was that but also they had that Painted Count get in a high position and he arranged it
gray umbra
Yeah
dusk patrol
Unironically he’s the main reason for the descent of the legion besides Curze
storm jungle
Curze was basically you during an RTS where your army is obviously failing but you go "Eh dont care"
dusk patrol
Curze was busy slowly going more and more insane
queen laurel
Curze was basically you during an RTS where your army is obviously failing but y...
Me in dawn of war after getting the free sluggas upgrade for orks
storm jungle
No see he knew all along
crisp heath
hey how old are the astartes aspirants? They aren't supposed to be adults right? But at the same time lore of many chapters states they recruit from gangsters or accomplished warriors and sure even IRL (unfortunately) we have child soldiers and gangsters but the official art makes them look adult too
storm jungle
trust me guys
storm jungle
hey how old are the astartes aspirants? They aren't supposed to be adults right?...
Teenagers.
or just about to be teenagers
paper haven
Pre-teens ideally
dusk patrol
hey how old are the astartes aspirants? They aren't supposed to be adults right?...
Generally 8-11
paper haven
Geneseed implantation has the highest chance of success if it happens during puberty
dusk patrol
Space wolves are known to recruit much older at 16-18
crisp heath
one of the most overlooked grimdark aspects of 40k is how normalized being a teenage psychotic gangster or war vet is
dusk patrol
It’s not overlooked
gray umbra
cadia
storm jungle
Its mostly because its not shown visually only in novels.
crisp heath
I don't see many people pointing it out
dusk patrol
It’s a primary theme
storm jungle
because you dont wanna like
alienate your main playerbase
aka kids and teens
lol
queen laurel
one of the most overlooked grimdark aspects of 40k is how normalized being a tee...
I mean it's bad but you know there's also the fact that hundreds of planets literally get slaughtered on a blink of an eye
paper haven
Most Imperial guard conscripts are 16
dusk patrol
It comes up in every marine origin book how young they are
crisp heath
but how can you be a 8 year old warrior?
paper haven
40k humans are not the same as modern humans
storm jungle
hold on ill get the calgar transition stuff
crisp heath
yeah but marine chapters like to recruit from warlike tribes right?
paper haven
When you live on a world in a constant state of war, you grow up fast.
crisp heath
When you live on a world in a constant state of war, you grow up fast.
that was our world lol
dusk patrol
Space wolves are an exception where they’re generally pretty accomplished fighters
dusk patrol
yeah but marine chapters like to recruit from warlike tribes right?
They recruit from the most obvious candidates of those
paper haven
that was our world lol
Not even close, no
paper haven
Luck is a big part of it
dusk patrol
A lot of aspirants are pathetic looking humans
paper haven
1 in 100 survive the process
crisp heath
Cadia gets a pass because it was a bunker world at the very border of insanity
dusk patrol
paper haven
Krieg is even worse
paper haven
storm jungle
^
crisp heath
...they are concious when operated on?
storm jungle
...they are concious when operated on?
Yeah.
paper haven
Yep
dusk patrol
Yes
storm jungle
Basically like going to the dentist so pretty realistic
paper haven
Talos even has a little bit where he is being operated on and he's a bit confused but very much awake
dusk patrol
Sometimes you are allowed the sacred biting stick
Which with their jaw and biting power has to be one helluva stick
gray umbra
Forged from adamantium
paper haven
Not really a stick at that point
gray umbra
My homebrew sm chapter will have a relic biting stick
paper haven
Just hand the guy a piece of rebar
gray umbra
Used by the first chapter master
dusk patrol
They’d probably bite through rebar
Unfortunately we are not told what the stick is made of, from a glaring plot hole and omission
paper haven
Maybe it's just a regular stick and he's trying not to bite down into it
dusk patrol
It’s the not bitting stick
paper haven
Or he'll fail or whatever. Ah, you broke the stick?
Summary execution
crisp heath
I thought they are given anesthesia
dusk patrol
You thought wrong
crisp heath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGW430OZO00 it's more like this then huh
surprised marines are not even more messed up
dusk patrol
They are
dusk patrol
They get pain killers on the battlefield
Generally outside they don’t though
Also their body produces its own and suppresses their pain and they’re trained for it
paper haven
Yeah but not during the first surgery
They are clearly awake and have a dim awareness of the pain, but they do not feel the full extent of it. At least in the two or three cases I've seen that specifically talk about it
crisp heath
a lot of people would die because of the shock alone
crisp heath
it's one thing to test someone in a grimdark way but another to just waste lives
paper haven
Well, you try staying calm when you can see your own beating heart
gray umbra
Imperium does like to waste lives lol
rocky gale
it's one thing to test someone in a grimdark way but another to just waste lives
Imperium well known for not wasting lives
dusk patrol
Aspirants are a cheap resource generally
paper haven
The geneseed is valuable
crisp heath
Imperium well known for not wasting lives
Life is a currency - spend it well :3
dusk patrol
At the end of the day unironically being lucky and ordained by the universe is a trait they want
crisp heath
Chenkov is a good example of someone not afraid of spending lives but not wasting them
dusk patrol
It’s not a waste if it had no value
crisp heath
now I wonder if tech priests are also concious when they are being stroggified
paper haven
Chenkov. Sounds like a Vostroyan
gray umbra
Think there was some metric where it was like 10 percent of potential aspirants survive the trials and then like 10 percent of that actually finished it
Maybe im wrong
paper haven
It's even more bleak than that
crisp heath
Chenkov. Sounds like a Vostroyan
close, Valhallan
paper haven
1 in 100 survive the first stage
storm jungle
Chenkov is a good example of someone not afraid of spending lives but not wastin...
Chenkov very much wastes lives
thats literally the joke
rocky gale
Yea Valhallans are the lame ones who suicide charge
crisp heath
Chenkov very much wastes lives
he gets the results so it's not a waste
storm jungle
he gets the results so it's not a waste
Its very much a waste.
paper haven
Valhallan. Yeah he definitely sends people into a meat grinder
rocky gale
Vostroyans are the based ones with big furry hats
crisp heath
Its very much a waste.
literally lore states it isn't
storm jungle
literally lore states it isn't
Yeah it states it in a satirical way tho lmao
paper haven
The lore is in universe propaganda
storm jungle
"the mission is done so the billions of dead dont matter"
also that yeah
this is form like the older guard codexes as well which were all written with a propaganda-esque language in mind
paper haven
The joke is that They don't see the issue with killing millions to solve a problem
storm jungle
Because sane people like us will read this and go "yeah no this guy is crazy".
lunar kettle
storm jungle
The joke is that They don't see the issue with killing millions to solve a probl...
This yeah
lunar kettle
This is a waste
idle knoll
The war that will end all wars
lunar kettle
If he's not wasteful then I don't know what is
crisp heath
he got a medal so it's not a waste
storm jungle
he got a medal so it's not a waste
ok stalin
crisp heath
if High Lords say you did well then you did
paper haven
HUman version of Perturabo
crisp heath
from the imperium's perspective spending a million guys or two is not a big deal if you ultimately achieve the objective
storm jungle
Okay and?
idle knoll
he got a medal so it's not a waste
medals are a waste cause cant eat them
storm jungle
this isnt the Imperium's POV, this is real life
crisp heath
therefore Chenkov did nothing wrong
paper haven
It's still a huge waste of human life
storm jungle
but anyway trolling aside
dusk patrol
storm jungle
theres a reason Chenkov has been forgotten as a character
crisp heath
well from real life PoV entire Imperium is a nuthouse
paper haven
well from real life PoV entire Imperium is a nuthouse
Correct
dusk patrol
Truly one of the takes of all time
crisp heath
someone said "mmm yes that makes the place look better"
lunar kettle
Instead of wasting these men, they could be turned into experienced soldiers which would not only be more cost effective because you dont need to constantly train and arm new troops but they'd also be faar more effective in combat
dusk patrol
Instead of wasting these men, they could be turned into experienced soldiers whi...
Because lives are cheap and don’t matter
crisp heath
if you die it's a skill issue and you weren't meant to live anyway
storm jungle
Instead of wasting these men, they could be turned into experienced soldiers whi...
Leave that to better regiments.
paper haven
It's an insanely bleak, horribly inefficient machine that turns living people into cheap solutions.
paper haven
Vostroyans are better
dusk patrol
Anyways they don’t really do that in lore anymore, it was mostly him and now they’re more like
Standard guard
storm jungle
Yeah this.
also like
the entire valhallan regiment
was inspired by Enemy at the Gates
crisp heath
savlar chem dogs are based
storm jungle
which was an extremely historically inaccurate movie
but uh, british people so
lol
lunar kettle
Anyways they don’t really do that in lore anymore, it was mostly him and now the...
I don't think anybody said all Valhalans are like thaat
crisp heath
was inspired by Enemy at the Gates
tremendously dumb movie that spawned obnoxious hystorical myths
paper haven
Enemy at the gates definitely was a movie that exists
storm jungle
Enemy at the gates definitely was a movie that exists
it does have Ron Pearlman
even if he gets capped
dusk patrol
I don't think anybody said all Valhalans are like thaat
He point is it’s old lore which isn’t relevant anymore
storm jungle
also that yeah
paper haven
it does have Ron Pearlman
Only redeming quality
storm jungle
Chenkov was very much a movie-inspired joke character
lunar kettle
Leave that to better regiments.
Of course, there's regiments no better than the ones fielded by the glorious Moebian Domain
crisp heath
WWII is interesting because despite being well documented and relatively recent it has more myths surronding it than the Iliad
storm jungle
if he didnt have plot armor he'd be stabbed to death in his sleep after like the first engagement by his own guardsmen
paper haven
Remember when every single depiction of Stalingrad had a shot-for-shot remake of Enemy at the gates?
paper haven
Or Saving Private Ryan, depending on the specific location
crisp heath
Band of Brothers is the most based WWII cinema
paper haven
Historically, commanders who get their men killed for no reason are also the victims of extremely accurate sniper fire
crisp heath
or fragging :3
paper haven
Y- yes that was the joke
paper haven
Fragging can be used in any context when describing the murder of an officer by their own soldiers.
paper haven
I think the statistic is something like 1 in 10
crisp heath
Assyrians would play Night Lords
lunar kettle
<:CatEvil:1118651361932873778>
I'm right
That's why I main a cutthroat with no connection to the Domain
crisp heath
are there any IG regiments issued with autoguns or are they reserved only for PDF and gangs?
lunar kettle
There's probably some poorer worlds that field IG regiments with autoguns
paper haven
Yeah. The only real difference between imperial guard with lasguns and imperial guard with autoguns is how easy they are to supply
Lasguns can be recharged, autoguns need ammo
crisp heath
https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/12o2qi0/guardsmen_do_have_a_life_expectancy_of_fifteen/ this guy made a well cited post
so people who are like
akshually it's 15 hours only in that particular battlefield
are wrong
paper haven
That one story was meant to be the average guardsman experience
Which, as it turns out, is quite shitty
rose thorn
Omgg it’s probably new havocs or something
paper haven
Oh god
crisp heath
if I worked logistics in the Imperium I'd constantly send people to the wrong war zones as a prank
paper haven
Also a plot point in that same story
crisp heath
that was an honest mistake
storm jungle
if I worked logistics in the Imperium I'd constantly send people to the wrong wa...
Theres a horror story in 40k based on this premise
paper haven
Well, you'd probably get away with it.
storm jungle
Yeah for awhile
paper haven
But your great grandchildren would get audited
crisp heath
I'm surprised 40k doesn't get horror games
paper haven
And then probably executed
paper haven
Theres a horror story in 40k based on this premise
Which one is that?
crisp heath
wish we saw more minor xenos some of them look quite horrifying
wonder what the things in the upper left corner doing something to guardsmen mind are
storm jungle
Which one is that?
Watcher in the Rain, one of the best modern 40k audio dramas imo
absolutely recommend a listen to it
paper haven
InB4 the Slough show up
storm jungle
Nah its entirely regulated to its own little thing
theres no xenos, no larger imperial forces, etc
one of the rarer moments where id say its a Must Buy
paper haven
No I meant the xenos bit
storm jungle
damn 😔
paper haven
Definitely checking out this story
You almost never recommended imperial pov stories
storm jungle
Lmao yeah
crisp heath
Tau are the good guys
storm jungle
I listened to it after like 3-4 of my fav 40k youtubers covered it
i was like "eh i got the money why not"
no regrets
storm jungle
Tau are the good guys
paper haven
Dies of cringe
crisp heath
they are cool >: (
storm jungle
They are dont get me wrong
gray umbra
Tau being good at melee
crisp heath
paper haven
Disgusting
crisp heath
Tau are based
paper haven
Because the first one is for starting arguments and the second is for ending them
Any more than two per person and things will spiral out of control way too quickly
crisp heath
I'm glad Dawn of War has oldcrons
storm jungle
Question for the Tau nerds: Do they actually have katanas?
Its for ceremonial purposes. Taken as inspiration from WW2 japanese officers/troops who carry them into battle sometimes
storm jungle
I'm glad Dawn of War has oldcrons
they are literally the same necrons as they are today
virtually zero difference
queen laurel
Omgg it’s probably new havocs or something
the way armor plating looks this is either Khorne or vampires
crisp heath
they are literally the same necrons as they are today
they were space terminators devoid of personalities
queen laurel
that's all my best guess really
storm jungle
they were space terminators devoid of personalities
And they still are.
only their leaders talk now lol
crisp heath
And they still are.
and that's still too much I prefer terminators >: (
paper haven
Ah so the Tau are based off Imperial Japan. But they're also the good guys?
What did GW mean by this?
storm jungle
and that's still too much I prefer terminators >: (
It very much was a great change and helped them not die off as a unremarkable faction.
crisp heath
Tau are a mix
storm jungle
Ah so the Tau are based off Imperial Japan. But they're also the good guys?
What...
They are based off of Japan/China/India mostly
queen laurel
yeah the only really major difference is that, Pariahs are no longer a thing
storm jungle
but their japanese influence is the most dominant
queen laurel
because well they stopped doing that because kidnapping people are annoying
storm jungle
because asian markets yada yada
paper haven
I doubt Japanese inspired models are gonna be popular anywhere outside Japan
gray umbra
World eaters are based
crisp heath
surprised there is no japanese themed IG regiment
gray umbra
Theyre just angry little guys
storm jungle
surprised there is no japanese themed IG regiment
Because its kinda cringe
and culturally insensitive
lol
crisp heath
and culturally insensitive
as if GW cared about that
storm jungle
as if GW cared about that
They very much do now
paper haven
And we already have the Tau so
storm jungle
lmao
storm jungle
And we already have the Tau so
Also this yeah
its why Tau are so mecha-heavy as well since it was made for more japanese audience appeal
crisp heath
Kislev for example lumps all Slavs together with russians whom no one likes
paper haven
It kinda is though?
queen laurel
yeah it's basically heavily stereotyped
gray umbra
Theres stuff like the white scars who are obviously mongolian based
crisp heath
how is lumping half of europe together not racist but if you do it with native americans or asians then it is
queen laurel
and trust me it's not the worst
gray umbra
They ride bikes and shit and its cool
storm jungle
how is lumping half of europe together not racist but if you do it with native a...
Because theres a difference in how you do it
gray umbra
But when you have ig pilots suicide bombing its a bit murky
crisp heath
Because theres a difference in how you do it
and where is the difference
storm jungle
its how they did Japan in fantasy
storm jungle
and where is the difference
...
one is taking cultural stuff from them and doing different renditions of it
the other is "these are sand people who blow themselves up"
its not that complex
paper haven
Frozen ruskies that ride bears
storm jungle
Yeah most russian friends I have just look at Kislev and go "eh could be worse"
theres not any inherent racism behind it
paper haven
Probably also drink vodka
queen laurel
yeah there's a difference on basing on a culture then straight up copy and paste