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Like one of the most extreme cases of mutation are the black dragon switch can cause them to grow near the height of a ogryn and develop Bone blades
But it could be fine assuming the geneseed tests well
Funny you bring them up
they are practically trying their best to balance a fine line
Well yes I'm just saying that if it's way too mutated you're gonna get killed
So prob ditch the scale skin but keep the flammable gas spewing Betcher’s Gland
cause fire breath is awesome
you say that but like
Their geneseed tests well
Is the thing
The geneseed falls within the “boundaries of purity”
Yeah which is the funny part because like I think out of every single space marine chapter they're the ones with the most apparent mutants showing themselves?
Yeah
Salamanders in general?
like compared to the space wolves who can get like wulfen, these guys have entire formations dedicated to these mutants
No, black dragons
no out of every single space marine chapter I'm pretty sure the black Dragons have the most mutants they show in public
Sallies aren’t mutated
like they have an entire squad dedicated to just these guys
I mean, the skin and glowing eyes are interesting
They just have like one somewhat defective organ

That’s due to a malfunctioning organ
And nocturnes like
Sun
The skin is caused by them being recruited in nocturnes hilarious radiation
Like every people there naturally has that skin and eyes
but apparently they're still considered people?
wouldn't things like that fall under mutation or abhuman
no
what do you think i am a Dumbass?
I mean, you are an Ork 
The eyes yeah, I don’t think the skin is a thing?
a Cunning and smart ork
either way
Fair
what about space wolves
the entire werewolf thing can happen to them
But I think I’ll just simplify mine down to having a mutated Betcher’s Gland that, with help from a modified helmet with an igniter, allows them to breathe fire
All the first foundings have pure geneseed
That doesn’t mean it’s stable
Space wolves geneseed is super unstable
Once exposed to fenris
OK so the chances of it mutating you into a horrible creature and it being pure are two completely different things
Clearly the Wulfen are pure gene seeds smh
What the **** does GW want to do with fenris man
Like they don't have psykers there because their Rune priests can draw power from it even if it can be like a billion light years away, giant suspected organisms of tyranid origin roamed the place and literal wolves that can eat our rhinoceros
Rune priests are psykers
It’s literally cope they aren’t
Yeah it's ******** let me tell you but apparently in universe it's just what they say it is
No, they’re psykers
Lol
It’s literal space wolves cope they aren’t
apparently they want you to believe in universe that this planet can empower an entire legion of these guys into a mad battle frenzy literal 1 billion years away from their ******* home world
it's just like why
I'm telling you man whatever the people were smoking when they are making Fenris i want some
The whole runepriests aren’t psykers thing is massive in universe cope
it's like asking wtf a rune is
yeah no way it's some kind of ******** rune magic
Fenris is just a Norse mythology geek’s wet dream
do random shapes just have warp power for no reason
Psykers are renamed to Rune Priests to not break their immersion
Eldar psyker runes are just funny carvings with psychic magic shoved into them
And also probably because Space Wolves are dumber than a rock
In fantasy and in age of sigmar they just like catch magic and shove it into a rock right with carvings
Shit like the eight pointed star of chaos
there's no in universe explanation for this when warp symbols are given power by the gods they represent themselves. wtf powers up this shit
Rune Magic could just be seen as another discipline of Psyker Magic right?
does the christian cross suddenly have power because it had believers
Chaos symbols prolly get fueled by the gods
I mean yeah probably
But the emperor killed all the Christian’s and Catholics

it's just dumb
Idk
Symbols having power is fine
They’re clearly fueled by a Psyker or a chaos god
like there's a language that can kill people just by speaking it which just exists in 40k for some reason
Man’s didn’t want to be seen as God, yet killed the religions that worshipped God so they turned to him
Good on you Big E
I mean yeah
it's not even magic it's just speaking
What about in fantasy and Age sigmar you know being the main source of magic for dwarves because they turn into stone if they use it
thats a thing in World of Darkness actually lol

you dont need to be a psyker
Yes
I love True Faith
That doesn’t mean it isn’t tied to the warp
who created the language? fuck you, that's who
Shout out to Castlevania who said Vampires are scared of the cross cause they hate the geometric shape of it
Don't you just love it that you believe on Jesus Christ so hard that you begin developing wrestling moves to kill demons
Probably some long dead xenos species
Lol
how it made its way on ancient earth
Maybe belakor’s race
for no reason
Bro you just described the movie Nacho Libre

Idfk people got a fucking vision from the warp
Fuck of course I did
Do you just hate the warp?
The warp is just fucking magic timey wimey plot land
Psyker stuff is a soft magic system with some hard elements
would be nice if they tried to add some level of coherency
But it’s pretty mutable
There is coherency to the warp though
There’s baseline rules about it
That aren’t really broken
like what
I really want to make a 40k version of this meme lmao
Time is merely a suggestion to the warp

The warp responds off of willpower, exposure to the warp itself will just kill you unless it’s in a pocket dimension, chaos is the predominant force in the warp
alright here's my warp generator that can fight godzilla and i decide to shove it on my heart as a battery to power my self
It absorbs power by rubbing kittens
what is exposure to the warp
If an author did that honestly I'm not even gonna be surprised it's just like the warp is kind of just this thing you can use for convenience
Entering the warp without protection
like interacting with warp imagery?
as a human/eldar/ork
Just kills you
No
Warp imagery can cause corruption, mutations, or other weird things
does knowing about the warp itself fuck up your brain
"Ugh. Why do I feel something scratching at my head?"
The nefarious daemon:
It makes you more vulnerable to warp predators if you’re nervous about it constantly
im talking about level of comprehension. do you have to know wtf you're looking at to be affected?
The nefarious catfish
Well your soul will know something is terribly wrong inherently
like are ogryns just not very corruptable because they dumb
Ogryn are pretty easily influenceable
no they are
Yesn't
Part of the reason why the Emperor neglected to tell the Primarchs about the warp is because knowledge of daemons and shit existing is corruption in itself
so they are very easy to corrupt because they are stupid
^
ok so willpower isn't intellect
like in tertium ogryns have horns
Definitely not
No different from people IRL tbh
and like bone growth out of their hair
force of will, intelligence, wisdom all matter when interacting with the warp
However at the same time. Just because you don't know a shark is coming for you.
Doesn't mean that the shark just disappears
A very intelligent man can be very easily manipulated
It's still there
Hey stop talking about me
And a very dumb man can be impossible to manipulate
And it will still bite you
i will fall to chaos if they offered me lollipops
"FOUL DAEMON. I WILL NEVER FALL TO YOUR TRICKERY-"
"Two lollipops"
"GAH! FINE. FOR THE DARK PRINCE..."
so a guardsman guy can survive the warp if he's just really really faithful?
no khorne
or Nurgle
Slannesh ain't my type of corruption
Getting dunked in the warp just fucking kills you
actually does faith actually do anything in universe
for every decapitated head i offer
You greedy creature
Exposure to warp energy sure they might survive
Yes
like sometimes faith actually objectively helps
Yes
This is due to the fact that the warp is affected by Will
Or act through them
i mean living saints are becoming a thing
Believing in something so hard will affect it
is it the faith itself that helps or the willpower given by the tenacity of keeping that faith
Both
Both
Faith feeds into willpower
Willpower can feed into faith
Some powerful psykers are very pious
For that reason
Ignoring the fact imperial doctrine demands they should be burned at the stake

and for chaos wordshippers, faith gives more warp power right?
Until it makes you a chaos spawn lol
too focused on adoring military vehicles of the imperial guard and the imperial guard itself
Yes
Faith in the dark gods, faith in whatever they draw strength from
Ect.
so faith in the emperor gives power from him by that logic
Of course you can just
Be really stubborn
Like that one woman who was so selfish. She literally ate two Greater Daemons
Can someone just
if it does work
Sometimes
force Jay to read the lexicanum
And then Slaanesh just ascended her
Worth it
Presumably so that she can stop eating her greater daemons
Where is the Betcher’s Gland located?
Ok so there goes my idea partly
Wherever we belch from 
no because let's be honest he probably made a las gun on his garage and would shoot me the moment I tried to break it into his house
lexicanum sucks for broad topics
This isnt a broad topic
you are asking very basic things
lmao
Doesn’t have to be faith in any one being either, you can just believe in your ability to kick ass
it's broad
Bro
Also chaos faith magic does occur
The thousand sons faith in tzeentch helps them
When they made an incursion into the pariah nexus
I had the idea of the Betcher’s Gland being mutated to emit a flammable gas and that the SMs who use it a lot would have destroyed vocal cords and can’t speak. But nah it’s in the mouth
This has been a staple and like every single fictional universe that has a God
why are you asking this
Or your faith in the strength of humanity, or kindness or something basic/universal as well
let's talk about femstodes instead
I honestly find that tidbit to be funny
Also for some reason I'm just imagining her literally just shoving a Keeper of Secrets inside an oven.
"Mmm... Fresh daemon"
Daemon screaming inside the oven
Can they spit acid?
Asking for a friend
no
how about i ask Nagash to torture your soul you bag of bones
No
Custodes are genetically enhanced humans
Custodes don’t have extra organs
Space Marines are genetic mutant meatmen
I no longer have interest in Femstodes
Thank god
who knows some biologis might give a custodes acid spit for fun
They cant
Custodians get super specific geneticist-surgeons
they would never deviate
Damn didn’t realize I had bad takes like that 
arent they all custom jobs
So theoretically. Let's say you somehow managed to knock out and capture a space marine. And then for good measure, dose him with a fuck ton of knock out gas
Wait so if we're including genetic improvements here are they technically peak human?
Yeah they have always been "peak" human
i thought every custodes was tailor made
Tonsil removal surgeries exist so
Hmm i see
I mean they’re sculpted in a custom way but there’s a basic template
^
Custodes don’t get extra organs
ah
During the gene alchemy process
its how they retain their personalities and other stuff that makes them roughly human
Astartes are very much genetic abominations
Bold words for someone in Belcher gland range
they dont even have a second heart? i never even thought of that
Basically
Custodes are stated to be built like Greek statues
Space Marines are stated to be a bjt
Uncanny
Everything Space Marines have is just "just to be sure" features
i mean they are
Custodes need none of it
With their proportions being off
they are literally superior human beings
custodes have the meet the medic baboon heart
NOOOOO
Space Marines are the “we shove all kinds of random crap in them to make them better weapons” while the Custodes are “Molded from Clay by the gods”?
Basically
It's also permanently ubercharged
Yes.
always has been
Yeah
So what you're telling me is they're basically what Bile wants to make?
Space Marines have been freaks since rogue trader
Lol
its the point of why their creation is awful
shit
New Men are weird
Technically the Thunder Warriors were actually stronger than SMs
They just
Rot
Didn't last long
T-Warriors were just gene-cocktails
That does bring up something I’ve wondered about, do SMs sometimes fight Rogue Traders?
Yes
Yeah they are about as cancerous as someone who runs a riot shield in Call of Duty
Have there ever been mentions of Custodes that were Psykers ?
Uhhh unless a RG interferes with their mission no
Nope never.
Sad
they got Doomseers in the palace who are normal psykers that help with this stuff
SMs trade in brute strength for adaptability basically
And also not going insane after 30 years
No
They’re walking weapons of war and versatility, prob why the chapters all have their unique quirks and gimmicks
Besides blueberries
Cause fuck being original
No and it seems they were planned to be that way
Instead they go insane after 100 years after a daemon tells them that "Your Dad didn't buy you the iPhone you wanted to Sanguinala"
Sm trade excelence for mass production (
speaking broadly)
They do have a gimmick
It’s called absurdly good logistics

Ah yes, excel spreadsheets the power
because logistics matter in 40k when it's for plot reasons
They also just recruit more efficiently
Then any other chapter lol
kinda easy when you own a whole sector
Well
Your primarch was a terrible warrior but a brilliant tactician
I’m talking about only mcragge
Vegeta
They don’t have any horrifying treck or trial before the initiate thing
Fun fact
Surprised someone caught that
Before they found their primarch
And send you away if you’re not compatible lol
Now that belongs to Blood Angels, or the Black Templars depending on who you ask
astartes be like "why arent we getting more recruits" as they check off the 90% casualty rate in the recent trial
50% casualty rate getting to the trial

Hm I wonder
Hey man they gotta weed out the weak links
sigh Bring in the children
Mfw Dante almost got mauled to death by a giant bird
(despite the fact that part of the reason why many die/get crippled is simply being unlucky)
they dont even test people at their physical prime lol they put teenagers though death runs and hope for the best
Exactly, even those with bad luck get weeded out
Tbf it is close to the physical prime
Oh I thought it was likez
16
When they put them through the death trials
It’s like 12 to 16
Oof nvm
At least for the blood angels
some of them havent even gone through puberty
A majority of the aspirants hadn’t gone through puberty when Dante went through the trials
But that might just be because Baal is a shithole
Do they put you to sleep when they install all those new organs?
Imperial Fist kidnap Juves on Necromunda
Nope
Or do they just rip you open while you’re awake
You don’t get put under lol
It’s 40k
For some reason the Imperium doesn't believe in morphine
depends on chapter
Why am I asking that
Or painkillers
Unless you’re a few chapters
OK in 40K the most latest of era do ultramarines have the most stable and high success rate Geneseed?
UM don’t put you under after you get the initial implementation
i just started reading the night lords book and he gets put under
You get shoved into a coffin for the blood angels
Imperial fists
You don’t get put under
Don’t be a bitch
that's a given
You’re gonna be missing your body anyways
UM and DA have the most stable geneseed

i see
The most stable and easy to implement genelines were
SW would just have you hammered on alcohol 
Imagine becoming a Black Dragon
Also that one chapter that have the recruits fight Daemons
Iron warriors, word bearers, dark angels and ultramarines
How much would it hurt to get those claws shoved into you
bro they drink poison as alcohol
ain't no way
Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Isn't alcohol technically poison 
Do love it though
Shh that takes the fun out of being an alcoholic
A ton of serfs lol
I remember an excerpt where some random Serf took a nibble off of some SM rations cause they were hungry
And then Magnus found them having a seizure
Because it was too much energy for the baseline body to process at once
aren't they literally a thick nutrient paste so full nutrition that it could kill a person?
Apparently some marine rations are "safe" to eat. But only in like tiny portions.
While some uh
Have you fucking die
It depends

"Alright Sigmas. It's bulking season"
"Now choose between the uranium ore or the SM Nutrient paste"

If gorilla food didn't have so much ash in it I would eat it for gains
slurp it down with horse electrolytes
Think of the gains
Imagine a 40k version of that gain advice
@storm jungle you got an image of a Psyker being horribly mutilated into a portal
Uh the what
a psyker being turned into a flesh portal
no idea
do you have something like that
prob try googling it i got nothing
"This guy DRINKS radiation and EATS corpses and he looks like this now!"
I used to have it
yeah because we had this conversation of them turning into a portal because of the warp
Will check
yeah please hit me up when you see
"SO MAKE SURE TO GO THROUGH BULKING SEASON WITH THESE TIPS!"
"FULL NATTY TRUST"
Those veins in that artwork I just posted unironically grossed me out
They look like vines bruh
Gfuel but with 90 percent more gamer
How/where do they find new recruits for SMs?
Basically they just have people volunteer
Usually children who don't know what they're getting into
Occasionally they steal
But most children voluntarily go simply because
"You mean to tell me that I can become a cool angel AND I can eat as much as I want? Oh boy!"
Which is honestly far more fucked up than simply just stealing them
Every Chapter does it differently
Imperial Fist pick children/youngs they've noticed
Blood Angel on Baal organise blood tournament (Children enter it cause being on Baal suck ass)
Like the like uhh enslaver things?
Baals
no i mean an image of a psyker mutilated into the shape of a portal for daemons

Yeah but don’t enslavers do that? I thought they had art
Don’t IH sometimes steal people to uh…. Make more recruits?
Occasionally
But again
Most come voluntarily
They don't know what being a SM entails
For all they know
They will become a cool big man with the shiny armor
Fighting for the Emperor!
Ye, on Necromunda
Just kidnap Juves
Imagine a horror story of a child on necromunda desperately trying to escape a space marine
Only for it to end with
"New recruit captured"
Really think there should be a IF Hanger On, that give credits if he manage to capture a new recruit, but with the risk of losing a Juve from your side
By AutumnArchfey
Tyranids come
"We want to consume"
farseer gives them a taco bell bag
"Hmm... no Baja blast. But it is acceptable"
Why does the Eldar look so Bovine
I can see it it looks a bit like a goat if you de horned it
Do we know why our settings got reset on darktide?
Latest hotpatch
I suggest reading the post on it
Heya Everyone, We are putting out a hotfix this week which might require players to tweak their render settings again when first launching the game on PC. When Unlocked & Unloaded came out last month, we added FSR 3.1 Frame Generation. As many noticed, this was defaulted to “on” and it caused issues for some players. Honestly, this was uninten...
Not even tyranids can adapt to baja blast
this guy got jail time for that iirc
good
Crazy you can get jail time for silly little harmless pranks now
Imma harmlessly launch a projectile at your face
a light amount of hydration for the employee. what a considerate person
Went a better quality version?
do you have one?
Yep
Oh I have the original
I posted the one earlier because it has YouTube prankster in it
Gross
I mean I'm not being serious with the image I posted it because it relates to the convo above

I don't think anyone has used the full high quality version for it yet
idk the image is like
3 years old now?
it's 2 nvm
my time is all fucked up
So somebody made a 40k version of a VERY old copypasta
It is very funny
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PRAISE THE EMPEROR
BATTLE BROTHER
absolute glow up gawd damn
This is the original copypasta btw:
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I wonder what the person is doing now
same
damn I can't find the space marine mario kart video
nvm found it
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referring to Peach as a heretic

actually now have the temptation to draw like
Imperium Highborn Peach
What would Mario be
A guardsman?
PDF?
Yoshi would be a tyranid 100%
How educated are space marines? as far as I know white scars do art and poetry stuff on their free time. But what about the other legions/chapters?
Very
They are pretty intelligent and educated
Way too "it depends".
Some are very wells studied while the others could not give less of a shit, and some are just in the middle.
less of a shit cough space wolves cough
LOL
A space wolf and a black Templar is given a copy of the codex astartes
The Space Wolf is confused and throws it away
The Black Templar simply says
"free toilet paper"
reading is for chumps
Space wolves are basically coded complaint too since all their units are renames of shit
Iron Hands are too busy wondering if they can slap a 4th Mechadendrite on them
I love how the Iron Hands have a Terminator armor that is
Basically broken
Like it leaks radiation
And it was basically just a pet project by Ferrus
Until Ferrus died and so nobody knew how to make the design not
Leak copious amounts of radiation
So then they worship it and use it
But only those with much more metal than flesh can
Because if a normal SM used it. They would eventually reenact how a thunder warrior felt

Honestly I kinda want Ferrus back just so that he could see his sons use it
And be like
"Y'know that leaks radiation right?"
"Yeah?"
"...you shouldn't use it"
"Oh we solved that problem"
"Oh how did you do it? Did you fix it?"
"No."
Steps out of armor and body is mostly steel
"Damnit guys."
Guilliman had a similar moment as well.
Basically all of his shit became chapter relics
Including mundane things like tables
So when he came back. A part of Calgar was annoyed at Guilliman using them so casually.
Despite the fact that he fully knows that it's his stuff. Of course he'll use it normally
So I just read a quote and it sent me spiralling
"Gods create their own subjects, not the other way around."
The Chaos Gods were created out of mortal actions and emotions, without them the big 4 never come to be. So in that sense they are very much not true Gods
But then I wondered if a Daemon's worship counts
Cuse like, Khorne has the Skulltaker and seems pretty happy with him, so surely he must be empowering Khorne
So if the worship of their own daemons works like normal, then they can create their own subjects right?
got in a stupid argument about balancing with my partner
so we palyed warcry
and she won, because she outplayed me
even though she had a worst list
and then she said that 'you should have won because you had a better made list then me'

insanity
is this how old world players think?
It’s so weird
Bad mindset to have tbh
i know uh, WHFB has a completely differnet list building system
so i have to think thats where it came from
but idk
It isn’t
This is just a mindset some people have
Lol
fair
Alright I think I finally found a good name for this successor chapter
I wanted it to sound rotund and grotesque in a way
The Belching Wyrms

True lmao
Like imagine a Salamander
With the durability of a Death Guard and none of that corruption chaos stuff
And they can breathe fire due to a mutation to their Belcher’s Gland
Rhis is a chaos one?
Those are called chaos warbands
I love the space wolves
space Vikings
Salamander
I have successfully snuck flayed one analogues into the setting im writing for, and the dev is none the wiser (He hates 40k)
The constant stereotype gets tiring though lol
huh, apparently adamantium is a natural resource
at least in the night lords book some dude finds raw adamantium ore
i always thought it was some manufactured thing
So are chainswords or other melee weapons/combat make you more effective against daemons in any way? Like by showing faith/no-fear etc?
A buddy of mine is trying to convince me of something vaguely along these lines and he has no source. Only the vague recollection of a reddit post from ages ago. Trying to find something that mind lend some credence or clarification to his argument, cuz I don't subscribe to it lol
Well do you feel like the Doomslayer when you use it.
Do you feel the need to rip
And then tear?
Basically it's all about symbolism
It's also why shit like "holy fire" can hurt daemons
Swords have been longer than guns
And even races like the Eldar and Necrons still used swords
What if I make a mirror of the Black Templars in the Word Bearers?
Just extra zealous
Most word bearers are very zealous
Basically they're viewed as nutjobs even by their peers
Because they fully worship the Chaos Gods as
Well
Gods
Instead of trying to use Chaos as a tool
Or for their own purposes
The war band I have in mind I called
The Hallowed Ones
Just not sure what that would entail

ya that's the crux of the argument, I think. That's seems unquantifiable though. Like w/ blessed bullets/weapons etc that grey knights used are all uber-daemon-killing tools w/ all the holy runes etc all over. I feel like if any material is going to address this in any way it's gonna be a gre yknight book.
That was a fun lil netflix series too iirc, Midnight Mass. Also the Hallowed Ones made me think of Halloween 🎃
I’m not sure how well this could work lore wise
But visually I want them to look like a Word Bearer fused with a heresy mirror of an Inquisitor
banger of a show
And their entire purpose is to hunt down any in the Ordo Hereticus and spread their own religious propaganda
Something like this
Fused with a heresyified this
I mean tbf it's kinda meant to be unquantifiable
Concepts and shit
But it's worth noting
Especially since Daemons are really into swords
Some of the most famous and ancient Daemon weapons are swords
And the Emperor wields well
A sword that permakills daemons
Considering the game flat out says this and the backstory is told from a meta perspective, could this actually have been the emperor?
The game says it in a in-universe kind of way
maybe it is him maybe it isnt, its not concrete
theres a ton of people in universe that say this exact same phrase when in reality its just them being nutty
Considering that it's also probably whispers from the warp it can also just be a demon pretending to be the emperor
or a shard of him
head canon
who's to say the character didn't just, swipe the clothes like a blood raven
Wh-what if- the space wolves had uh, THOR! Yea give him a hammer that he can throw and teleport back into his hand!
What if they used, uh, healing powder!
Instead of medicine
How is it scifi? It’s actually nano machines!
Please no
These both are already things space wolves have
Also insane that space wolves have nano machines
Na it has to be more unique, he throws the hammer and then teleports to it
Actually might be a cool mechanic in the tabletop, ranged weapon that also puts you into melee
What’s his name teleports the hammer back to his hand sadly </3
Make it a stratagem, where teleport into melee with a unit you’ve shot at
Space wolves are written like a really poorly made homebrew successor chapter
Like wiki.fandom.homebrew40k
UlfthaK?
He’s in terminator armor
This guy also had like a teleportation ability in the novel being able to teleport his hammer on his hand but sometimes he just teleports near him
It’s kinda insane his rules are insta legends
yeah it's Fucked
even though like he's pretty good
I’m about to end up with 3 more units of preators watch
yeah these look nice
I wish you could marry one of the Werserians or something
what
Ed can i like get a reason?
They have a nice blue colour and Abelard is cool
Is healing powder supposed to be a viking thing?
Valid
Yeah
As are Astartia and the other lady I forget about
Just use healing gunpower
True True
Never heard of it tbh
We’re probably getting new fire dragons with the new fuegan
Could the Operation missions be used for lore events where they need to be timed?
If not it would be the most GW moment ever
And after leak, quick preview
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/9gcmddz9/fuegan-a-phoenix-lord-reborn/
That happened with the last leak too lol
Named guy of the fire dragons eldar
It happens everytime
I noticed he was too scrawny to be a Space Marine
weird that the red gobbo went from a communist to Santa claws
Clays
CLAUS
What ever
Kinda regret not getting uh
But I can just buy him from a Russian website it’s fine
This guy specifically had AOS rules and not 40k rules
Which is pretty funny
Saint Krump
Krumps ya and steals your prezzies
Ah the gretchin, the working force of the green skin, and often abused to the point of comical degrees.
Oh yeah it's the red gobbo specials
It makes one wonder if with proper propaganda and training, they could be used to cause a proper, successful, revolution, in ork society
Yeah well that's the point of the red gobbo but as you can see
That's not going to happen anytime soon
Do you think this red gobbo will have rules aren’t instantly legends?
He copied yarrick's style, but also imperial greed
Last year red gobbo on squig was comp legal
Last edition*
He was really bad tho lmao
Wouldn't he just blow up if in contact with the enemy?
old Ork maincharacter™️
Think he was retired before 8th already
Wahapeida says he wasn’t legends in 9th
last appearance was in 7th
That’s so weird
he was part of the starter kit for it iirc
Ah
or some campaing book set
He gave Gretchen moral and also did 1d6 damage on a 4+ on charge
wait this was him?
yeah
so they turned his ass into a generic model?
happens to the best of us
yeah i suppose
Oh I didn’t know 10th edition orks lost the goff rokker
Even for legends
That’s weird
He wasn’t like bad or anything
I think you can still buy him
you mean this?
i thought he was just like collectible you're not really supposed to use in the tablet top
just there for the novelty than you know actually use
Yeah but he was comp legal in 9th
He didn’t even get a legends
wait so he had actual abilities and stats?
Yeha
I’m dead
yeah but it didn't they going forward remove clans basically
in 10th edition it's just orks
Yeah, but all the clan dependent characters stuck around
I already forgot orks got their codex lmao
Yeah it's very weird like they didn't just like change his rules to fit the new enviroment or something
His model is gone on the store
Maybe this Christmas he will come back?
His hat is on the red gobbo model
🤔
it means he was killed by the red gobbo
so long
You would think it was gonna be one of the permanent things they would keep there because he looks good and hell they even went out of their way to give him a music video
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Oh
I’d like for him to come back, he was a fun buff piece
Do orruks have many buff pieces left,
(probably not really, just spitballing)
Warchanter?
I think one of the characters definitely do
The pain boy and boss
ye
The weird boy
Maybe this year we will get a Christmas genestealer cultist

Also I’m hoping that gsc aren’t terrible in uh, what 3 months?
When they rework their faction ability
new titan
or dreadnought action fig
I appreciate how they basically just improved on his old model design
The barrel is still a bit much for me personally but I like his look largely still
Looking forward to Asurman and the rumored Warp Spiders Phoenix Lord
yup
I would assume Asurman will be similar
He’ll make a great Archon 
A nice update to his old model
Little better pose, more detail
Asurman also has a little more basic of a look than the rest
So I hope they add some pizzaz to it a bit
I wish. Magun Ra direction wasn't that great. Asurman needs new pose for sure.
Warp Spiders are what I’m looking forward to most
i love it with GW go goes out of their way to truly update models cuz Ghaz went from this
to this
In general the vast majority of updates recently have been great imo
A couple like Coatez and the Sanguinary Guard aren’t it for me but mostly they’ve been amazing
Like Asmodai went from this
To this
yeah it's always fun if GW goes the extra mile
I feel like they sometimes try way too hard to change and modernize the look. Thats when they usually end with updates like Coteaz
Coteaz is unusually weird
I wonder if the brief was just off
Most of the glow ups are solid Ws
Guh the new eldar models are so good
The guy who designed him too has designed good stuff in the past, I’m not sure what the problem was
Some stuff just doesn’t always hit I guess
I legit forgot he had a flame thrower sniper rifle
It does look much better on his new model
Although that’s gonna be a good provider of glue sales
Would Roboute Guilliman get a remodel?
Or is his up to date
no he still looks very clean
it's gonna be awhile until this is considered not up to standard
Oh that’s what he looks like now
I remember seeing one that was smaller that had his helmet on
This one
this one comes with different head options
Ah
Also I just realized something
Roboute may be inspired by Uriel
The Archangel
Or Michael
Or a fusion of the two
Hey chat do you think we will get a new army this edition?
Oh Wiat EC

I forgot they existed again
Okay better question
Do you think any of the armies released last edition will be finished
Or are they in foot hero hell
On what warhammer because like we got the votaan a while back
Emperor Childrens are in 2025 iirc
not until the great primaris purge which will inevitably come
can't wait for people to suddenly start caring about suppressors when they're being removed
i agree
way too many primaris units
thankfully they cut back on captains by lumping them all together in 10th mostly
"captain with master crafted bolt rifle" used to have its own rule sheet in 9th lol
like why
Okay Dilara level with me here are non-Primaris marines still made right
Like in lore
Uhhh not that wide
all Chapters are getting into the Rubicon treatment
dont chaos marines still use the old method
Okay so non rubicon space marines are actually being replaced slowly but surely
I mean physically speaking they are better in every category
Same with the gadgets they are given for fancies
i never actually thought about if a firstborn can use shit like bolt rifles
Too large for their tiny hands
Its a gun. They can use it.
Its just tabletop > lore
ye
Okay so but in universe first born marines are slowly being replaced for the primaris right
Primaris and firstborn gear is used interchangeably in lore
Yes.
He uses a bolter
There’s a primaris in the armory
Talking about how he prefers a mcragge pattern bolter
i thought it was a bolt carbine because i think my ultramarine skin applied to it
And how he’s going to keep using it until he’s dead
I mean they are practically an upgrade in every sense of the word
bolter rolls off the tongue better let's be real
Oh yeah speaking of are the space marines you use in the co-op missions and pvp Primaris?
The ones in space marine 2?
yes it's all primaris
there's a gravis and reivers too
bladeguard, intercessor
the only non primaris marines are during the prologue
including titus
the only non primaris related stuff you see after the prologue is occasional equipment like rhinos here and there
PvP the chaos dudes aren’t obviously but everyone is for loyalists yeah
Good to know
There’s already been some leaks for Corvus and Mk VIII helmets in the files
Idk how far they’ll go but I wouldn’t be surprised if we get most Mks as helmets at least eventually
btw i found it pretty cool that the night lords in the books use mk4
Definitely MkVI-VIII
dont know how they managed to make mk4 last for millenia but they got their methods
Yeah the a lot of traitors tend to use older hodge podge armor sets
The NL in the trilogy went that old technically
haha then when does it become mark 5
For them the heresy was only a few hundred years ago time wise
is mark 5 only HH era hodge podge
Part of why established legions like the Word Bearers and Black Legion are effective is they can commission and order actual new armor to be made by Dark Mek forges
A lot of Warbands have to make due
they talk about being on the run for millenia at the start
And often will have loyalist armor they took from bodies
Yeah i guess that's one of the reasons why they are still successful even with the literal super marines running around that are basically better than the old ones being basically common place now
Like seriously how the hell does chaos keep winning when literal improved marines are running around now
Chaos has other advantages too, and they mass produce marines a lot
Most BL legionaries won’t be impressive but they don’t care much
It’s very much trial by fire
The strongest rise to the top eventually
i always thought chaos marines used warp armour or something
like made of warp materials
I forget if Dark Mechanicum guys bind daemons into power armor like that
like you cant tell me death guard fabricates their stuff
Deathguard mostly have whatever gear they had prior to their corruption
Death Guard probably raids and steals it
Some do
their armour is just flesh now lol
We see in some books they literally grow their armor
Has there been cases in lore where they replace it because of damage or do they just like grow some weird pus covered bone protrusions on the damaged parts
It’s more a chitinous shell
ye that makes sense since some CSM literally become part of the armour
Generally they’re stuck in their armor after a while yeah
that's true too
So sometimes it literally grows back
meanwhile thousand sons are the armour
can they make more thousand son suits actually?
It’s also why Death Guard have to think carefully before choosing terminator armor since it’s a very permanent choice
Probably tough to move around ever again once they're fused into it
I have a lore question. If Chaos and heretics are to be kept secret so how come regular hoomies are fighting it in Darktide? And not, let's say, Grey Knights? Space Marines kill witnesses so the heresy wouldn't spread
Honestly at some point i feel like they would just become adapted to it because it just like quite literally becomes their second skin
abaddon doesnt seem to mind always wearing one 
Slower
Harder to get around, at least for those who aren’t used to it
They're kept on the down low until it's convenient
Some marines can move much better in terminator
