#40k-lore-chat

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rose thorn
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is this better or wrose then when black manta wanted to make atlanta into a society of only black people

jade holly
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And also because Admech stole my entire fucking flow

arctic talon
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Oh also ice giants with gold chains

jade holly
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Damn technophiliacs beating me to the Cowboy punch

jade holly
crystal forum
jade holly
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You

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Say

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NO

rose thorn
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ive been power farming too much fallout 76

crystal forum
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ah hell nah they put atlanta in the pacific

jade holly
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Now idk what to make the other largest gang for the Iron Mavericks

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The Warp Riders are mostly Librarians that formed their own gang

crystal forum
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speaking of fallout i'm finishing a pip boy i'm making for my sister who got herded into fallout by the tv show (sigh)

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fallout 4 pip boy sadly

jade holly
rose thorn
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Don’t go too complicated or you could get annoyed with it

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‘All my bikers look different because of z’

jade holly
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I made one of the gangs a bunch of Psykers

crystal forum
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i didn't have a knob so i used one i salvaged from a guitar

jade holly
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And there’s only two big gangs

crystal forum
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those guitar knobs are very smooth

queen laurel
rose thorn
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Psykers are rare for a reason

jade holly
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People

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Graffiti mjolnir

rose thorn
crystal forum
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yes for my sister

jade holly
crystal forum
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a pip boy from fallout 4 because she's suddenly a fan after watching the show

rose thorn
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Not counting grey knights and exorcists

jade holly
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Better?

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Not full of Psykers

queen laurel
rose thorn
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I’m not your mom so do what you want

rose thorn
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But I’m just saying, you don’t want to make your chapter all special snow flakes

jade holly
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Can a Psyker influence other people and improve things about them physically?

crystal forum
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this model is crazy btw it's supposed to have a whole rasperry pi in it that can give you GPS location

queen laurel
rose thorn
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Biomancy baby

jade holly
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Alright so I have an idea

crystal forum
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i'm just using the casing but i might do the eletronics one day

jade holly
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The gangs are mostly generic Iron Mavericks but the gang leaders are special

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and there’s only like 2-3 gangs large enough to be recognized

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Boom

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Only 3 special characters of note

rose thorn
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Yoi could do a gang each company

jade holly
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And yes I intend to make a joke via the Good, The Bad, and the Ugly

rose thorn
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So you like, have 20 characters

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At least

jade holly
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I wanna keep it small

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Very small

rose thorn
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Oh okay

jade holly
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Only like 1k total in the entire sub chapter

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Split between gangs

crystal forum
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famous last words

rose thorn
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100 per company

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If each gang is completely self sufficient with their own tactics they could split up and do cowboy stuff more effectively

jade holly
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Oh whoops

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I meant 100 total

rose thorn
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And work together better

jade holly
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Misread how many Iron Hands there are on the lexicanum

rose thorn
jade holly
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Yeah and they don’t do that

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They are very off the beaten path for formation

rose thorn
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Is there a reason they don’t restock

jade holly
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Too spread out

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Can’t make em in a big ole factory

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New ones can be made, but not in bulk like actual chapters

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In fact, that’s going to be the main driving force behind skirmishes between the gangs

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Control over the resources and tech to produce new ones

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Boom

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I faked it till I made it

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Ok I need to shut my trap until I know for sure how this will all work

rose thorn
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Lmao

jade holly
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But does that idea work?

rose thorn
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It’s okay G

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It’s not bad, better than everything on wiki.fandom.homebrew40k

jade holly
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Yeah cause I don’t wanna make the new “next big chapter”

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I love smaller contained stories

rose thorn
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You can have small stories with a full chapter

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Just have them spread out hella far

jade holly
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things that can happen in a universe and be impacted by things but don’t impact the universe itself on a grander scale

rose thorn
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Honestly 40k has no sense of scale

jade holly
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One thing I really want to emphasize in this is the relationship between the sub chapter and Admech

rose thorn
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You can do what ever just don’t involve named characters

jade holly
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Have them work much closer together than they usually would

rose thorn
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They just casually introduce an artifact that can wipe out the entire tyranid threat

jade holly
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Yeah no

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That’s dumb

rose thorn
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And they accidentally broke it

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Because it was ork tech

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And they sent space marines to use it

jade holly
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Yeah that is a dumb plot

crystal forum
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shit's dumber than a dark age macguffin

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fucking ork tech

rose thorn
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Necrons have like

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1000 insta win buttons

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Shout out to the necron cosmic boof that one taps planets

queen laurel
# jade holly Yeah no

here's a tip for making your own warhammer things make them not too big, if you plan to make them too big please and i mean please do not include them to the main plot like meeting named character

rose thorn
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They can be involved in named wars

jade holly
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the main plot I want to do for this is the gangs all want to grow their ranks and actually form an honest beginning of a sub chapter, but there isn’t enough resources in the fringe planets they’re located on for them all to do it. So they have to fight each other over control of the limited resources

queen laurel
crystal forum
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there comes a point where a faction is so overpowered that they dont matter anymore since all the cool gadgets are literally never used

rose thorn
crystal forum
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like stop hyping up the 50th galaxy ending device

jade holly
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Successor, got it

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At most, the Iron Mavericks would act as mercenaries to be hired to fight in wars, never be the fore front heavy hitters

rose thorn
rose thorn
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Space sharks are on self inflicted outcast status

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Lamenters are on penance crusade

crystal forum
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that's the thing about chapters, the imperium doesnt get to choose if they're useful

jade holly
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I see it as the “they’re so far from the actual action everyone forgets they exist” kinda trope

rose thorn
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Yeha but taking payment from not the imperium on the daily basis isn’t great

jade holly
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Ok yeah so maybe not mercenaries

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But if wars show up near them they join in on the Imperium side to help out

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Does that work?

crystal forum
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carcarodons never get supplies because they're always on the outskirts of imperium

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sounds like your guys

rose thorn
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And they just steal from imperial planets but we ignore that

crystal forum
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black templars do the same let's be honest

rose thorn
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Fucking iron hands do the same

crystal forum
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you gotta pillage at some point

rose thorn
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Civilians = cash money!

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You can be a tyrant, you can be a bastard

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You just have to be loyal

crystal forum
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we call it involuntary charity

rose thorn
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Not siding with the imperium in a fight is fine unless they specifically ask you to

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Then not answering the call is like, a terrible terrible idea

jade holly
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Before I go off the rails I need to collect my thoughts:
successor chapter of Iron Hands
Located on a section of fringe planets in the empire or just one
Heavily involved with Admech and work much closer with them than usual
Take on a cowboy aesthetic, ditching a lot of the outer plating and helmets for heavy leather coats, hoods and hats styled in the Admech style
Bionically enhance themselves for better perception and faster hand reflexes (aka yee haw QuickDraw)
Do not have companies, split between 3 major gangs fighting for control over the bare resources to make more of them

crystal forum
rose thorn
crystal forum
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you know what's the cool thing about iron hands? you dont even need to make a successor chapter to make a completely unique group

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they're all very independent minded

rose thorn
rose thorn
jade holly
crystal forum
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you could say they were cut off during the istvan massacre

jade holly
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Istvan mentioned

crystal forum
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oh

jade holly
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Do I look like Rylanor to you

rose thorn
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They are trying to enforce imperial law on the edges of the galaxy?

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Aka stomp out cults

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And invaders

crystal forum
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iron hands are very involved with istvan

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their primarch died

jade holly
jade holly
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When you’re that far from the heart of the empire its laws kinda get turned into suggestions

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So they take up more of a.. what’s the term?

crystal forum
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i'm making my own iron hand blackshield regiment who went crazy after istvan and returned to storm walkers with unpainted armour and volkite weaponry

misty brook
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Also your world and your people are most likely forgotten too.

jade holly
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Frontier Justice

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That’s it

misty brook
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Being on the fringe worlds suck a lot.

rose thorn
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Also loads of space pirates and drug cartels on that side of the galaxy

jade holly
rose thorn
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And smugglers

misty brook
jade holly
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Nothing a well placed barrage of stun cannon fire can’t resolve

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Also yes their main guns are stub cannons because fuck you yee haw up in this bith

misty brook
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Not gonna lie. If they add some more time paradox thing, besides those side stories and the chronos ordo disappearing and reappearing. Like having Malacdaor accidentally sent into the future. That would be suck a lot for him.

rose thorn
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Here’s my WIP chapter btw

misty brook
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Not gonna lie. I'm not surprised they haven't tried making a Space Marine chapter. But instead of the Primarchs or Emperor as the genetic material override. The geneseed is from a one of the Custodes.

jade holly
# rose thorn

Ermmm Xenos, you can’t set foot on this planet because it holds Historical significance to the Imperium and its denizens. We’ll have to force you off our home. - How I imagine a Historitor marine to sound

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In truth they’d probably be like that one geek in the Simpsons

misty brook
jade holly
rose thorn
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Maybe they have an irrational hatred for necrons? Since some necron keeps stealing shit from their home world

rose thorn
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Leading to their families getting punished for it

jade holly
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I bet he’s stolen the same book 10 times

rose thorn
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“This is the last known fossils of the Terran dinosaur-“

misty brook
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So the Flayer Virus is a mental disorder right or I'm I getting it wrong?

jade holly
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I like how your successor chapter is “We must protect and ensure the documentation of the history of man and our empire”

While mine is just “Yeehaw chucklefucks, welcome to the shitass Wild West where nothing we do matters”

rose thorn
jade holly
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Flayed Ones are horrifying ngl

rose thorn
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Imagine a neurological disease for robots

jade holly
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Seeing a robot skeleton pull up on you with green tech magic is bad enough

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Then they start going on about how you’re wearing their flesh and they want it back?

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That’s a no from me

rose thorn
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They try to eat it too lol

jade holly
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Gluttons

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I still need to think up what the other 2 gangs should be

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I’m imagining one led by an Admech

rose thorn
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The holy trinity

jade holly
misty brook
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Imagine a pair of living necrontyr are in stasis. That somehow avoided biotransferance for over 65 million years. Do you think Trazyn would want them for his museum or help find a way with The Silent King to restore their people's fleshy mortal bodies? Because there is hope, a meagre chance of hope for them.

jade holly
rose thorn
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Admech for vehicles, psykers for stealth

jade holly
rose thorn
lapis verge
jade holly
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All I know about Trazyn is he’s a Kleptomanical trickster

lapis verge
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Inb4 Tzeentch made a deal with Trazyn KEKW_ogryn

rose thorn
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But also dna dies after like, 1k years

jade holly
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Get a big ole bird cage

rose thorn
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He has a few demons already

misty brook
lapis verge
rose thorn
jade holly
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Trazyn could totally steal that

rose thorn
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The 2 necrontyr, besides dying from their super cancer, couldn’t reproduce or anything

lapis verge
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Traz is secretly just a self insert for all the plastic crack hoarders out there KEKW_ogryn

jade holly
misty brook
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I don't think Necrons can enter the Warp. Plus Trazyn would probably catch that rusting metal disease nurgle made too.

jade holly
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Damn Nurgle been working overtime

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Trazyn should steal his cauldron

rose thorn
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In void scarred audio drama necrons die going it into the warp

jade holly
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Meanwhile Corvus is having a fucking ball in there

rose thorn
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But also they went into the warp in the first war of heaven

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Also necrons are immune to warp storms apparently

misty brook
jade holly
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Fuck it, a gang lead by the Bonnie and Clyde of 40k who are an Iron Maverick and Admech couple

misty brook
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Would the Mechanicus go to war with the Squats to get their technology or just wipe them out, because of AI they have?

rose thorn
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That I doubt they will ever follow up on

jade holly
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Considering Admech use lever action rifles and revolvers now for some reason

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I don’t know

rose thorn
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They shoot cancer

misty brook
rose thorn
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I WAS GONNA SEND THAT

jade holly
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That’s a whole ass six shooter he’s packing

rose thorn
misty brook
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So are the Deathkorps of Krieg really clones?

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Or do they just reproduce a lot in their hell radiated homeworld?

jade holly
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Yep, and they think their very existence is an affront to the Emperor

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So they go into war to die to be forgiven

rose thorn
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Basically same thing

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Except it’s not the same person

misty brook
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Not gonna lie. I wanna see an Ork with two heads.

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One that is brutality cunning and the other one cunningly brutal.

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And they argue with each other to see who has the better plan.

misty brook
opaque coyote
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Or blinding an opponent with your blood before finishing them off

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That kind of shit

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...

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Why is my skin turning green?

queen laurel
queen laurel
opaque coyote
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Making new Ork God

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They're

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Pork

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The God of Squigs

jade holly
jade holly
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Inside you are two Orks

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One makes you punch people who look at you

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The other makes you punch people when they look away

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You love punching people

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Get help

misty brook
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The only person Orks didn't want to fight anymore was Jagathai Khan. Because he just slaughtered them like nothing by himself.

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He was in a ultra-instinct sword stance.

jade holly
lapis verge
jade holly
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Do Librarians use the eye iconography at all?

shadow plover
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generally no, they've got their own iconography

misty brook
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Question how bad or good is it if the Imperium of Man founded a ancient entity that can produce life and acts like a nurturer for planet she is on. And she has survived mass extinctions, but as a result is preserved in volcanic ash. And they decided to operate on the entity to collect samples, even though she is still alive technically.

opaque coyote
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I find his voice in DoW 1 to be the most smooth

storm jungle
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there'd probably be a mini-war on the place its found over what to do with it

queen laurel
rocky gale
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Was reading through Honourbound and they started talking about the legend of “Morrow” and I pogged

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Unfortunately it was a different Morrow

storm jungle
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LMFAO

crystal forum
rose thorn
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New genestelaer cult art!

queen laurel
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Yo a Tau Novel

shadow plover
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huge

queen laurel
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Maybe with new Xenos Books coming out we will get one for eldar again

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i'm kidding that's never gonna happen again

storm jungle
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everyone looks wonky af

queen laurel
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so this is gonna be probably guerrilla warfare galore

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and also tau

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@rose thorn the tau novel is being made by the same guy who made this how consistent is his track record if you read this

rose thorn
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The VA is genuine terrible

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Good book tho

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About the nature of destiny and hope

queen laurel
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might have to pick that up later

rocky gale
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He did Godeaters son too right?

queen laurel
rocky gale
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I remember hearing it’s pretty good

rose thorn
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He writes alot of book about destiny

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Considering he is writing a tau book I imagine that theme would continue

queen laurel
rose thorn
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Yeha but also it’s a 40k xenos book

green loom
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Hey hey hey

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Hey

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It's not Thorpe

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OR Kelly

queen laurel
jade holly
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Man if only I still drew

gray umbra
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Eldar book comes out, its about them dying to ultramarines

storm jungle
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Story of xenos fans.

dusk patrol
rose thorn
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It’s our path

storm jungle
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Characters dying?

dusk patrol
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That’s most 40k books in general tbf

storm jungle
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at the end of a 40k book?

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Yeah like at some points it doesnt even become a spoiler anymore

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its funny

dusk patrol
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Best you can hope for is they survive a trilogy

storm jungle
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Or my favorite

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"Oh we gotta go find this mcguffin"

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Oh jeez

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i wonder whats gonna happen?

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Oh yeah it gets destroyed at the end

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womp womp

dusk patrol
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That’s silly

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Obviously it’s actually really bad and evil

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Part of why I largely like crime, and other series where there isn’t some huge stakes. I get why they do it but it can’t pay off and I know that, so just don’t do it.

Or make it like, “this macguffin will help us win this war on this specific planet which exists for this book.”

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Not “this MacGuffin will make everyone into space marines and give us all volkite and psyker powers that are safe and also unlimited Klondike bars.”

storm jungle
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Yeah its genuinely peak writing for Crime all memes aside, its what makes me appreciate it.

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Like the mcguffin thing is so bad because SO MANY books do it

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Im betting its at least 50+ or even more

dusk patrol
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Or you know just, fucking play the macguffin straight

storm jungle
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Yeah this too

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Just fuck off with the "oh we gotta destroy it" shit

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its what made me be done with the Coteaz book

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Soulglass this, soulglass that, wah wah i dont wanna get old until he just smashes it because heresy. Fuck off.

dusk patrol
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Although tbh none of this matters if it’s well written and I like the book.

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It’s only when books aren’t well written that I care.

storm jungle
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Yeah i think its bad WHEN the entire story is focused around the mcguffin like with the Daemonhammer one.

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If its like a literal plot-device and nothing more then id be fine with it.

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but when you build it up JUST to smash it then yeah okay

dusk patrol
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I really wish more authors did books like Brothers of the Snake, just a bunch of shorter stories or vignettes following whatever faction you’re doing which loops around to a core story but isn’t high stakes

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I don’t care about some planet being destroyed or whatever, just tell me more about the dudes.

storm jungle
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Yep always the same shit.

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Its even more annoying when im reading a book advertising what you just said subject wise, then 5 chapters in they make another mcguffin gamble and im just-

jade holly
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Give me a book that’s basically just the Magnificent 7

rose thorn
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LoV lol

shell mason
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The monkey finger curls

queen laurel
rose thorn
gray umbra
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More

tough haven
rocky gale
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I’ve found that I’m reading more now that I’ve got a job which is weird because I’ve less time to read

gray umbra
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I read when i take public transit in to work

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For days when i dont feel like biking

rose thorn
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You know what’s weird, ppl will hype up characters with powers in manga but then shit on characters with powers from not manga that have like, same powers? It’s weird

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Maybe it’s just a like, Japanese content thing

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Like why did Deadpool have to get a power from chainsaw man, like it’s a direct reference

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Pretty sure there’s at least 15 guys in marvel that can summon giant ghost animals

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The main example that bugs me is some guy from the jjk manga that has gambling powers

jade holly
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Ngl

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I was thinking of making a rival chaos successor chapter for my Iron Hand cowboys

jade holly
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And have them themed around Dia De Los Muertos and Aztec culture

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with Calavera designed helmets

rose thorn
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What’s your nationality?

jade holly
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US

rose thorn
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Oh okay

jade holly
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I just love history and culture

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All really cool stuff

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Actually

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How many lightning/thunder themed weapons are there?

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That Space Marines use?

arctic talon
arctic talon
rose thorn
jade holly
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Do power weapons count?

rose thorn
arctic talon
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Okay well

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Idfk

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The author likes it ig

arctic talon
rose thorn
jade holly
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Jeez they have a lot of rocket and missile launchers lmao

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Guess my idea would have to be a melee heavy successor chapter but they use Storm Bolters for ranged

gray umbra
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Imperial fist renegade

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Or iron warriors derivative

jade holly
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I wanna keep the Aztec theme but maybe ditch the day of the dead vibe

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Cause my favorite Aztec god is Tlaloc

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A storm god

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That or go with something that may actually fit it better

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Yeah actually this one may be a better idea

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Scrap the Aztec, replace it with Yoruban

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My even more favorite storm god (even though Orishas aren’t actually gods) Shango

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A Salamander successor chapter

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Storm/power melee weapons with flamer and melta guns

gray umbra
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Salamander or raven guard maybe?

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Phalanx marines sound cool

jade holly
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Cause Shango is regarded as a Storm deity and also sometimes Fire

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Like can breathe fire and everything

gray umbra
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Oh then salamanders for sure

jade holly
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If you’re wondering what Shango looks like, here’s an artistic depiction of him

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Yeah, he’s kinda cool

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Might name the Successor Chapter the “Infernal Maelstroms”

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And unlike the Salamanders

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They’re gonna be big pieces of shit

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War loving conquerors that purge Xenos in a barrage of storm and flame for the sheer glee of it

rose thorn
jade holly
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It’s too good looking to be AI

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Now my only problem is the colors of Shango are white and red

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Then again the Black Templars are

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Well

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Black

gray umbra
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White scars

jade holly
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Yeah

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And if I do Green on white on red

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Well that’s just either Italy or Mexico

gray umbra
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I was going to say something racist

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But it might work

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Keep like salamanders heraldry

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Or add like fire details to the feet

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And lightning decals to the shoulders

jade holly
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I’ll keep the green, but have one side have red detailings and symbols, the other be white

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Red for flames and white for lightning

gray umbra
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Oh true you can do the half split

opaque coyote
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So minor Chaos Gods

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Are there any named ones

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IK malal counts

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/malice

jade holly
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A power axe in one hand

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A hand flamer in the other

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And maybe have my own dumbass twist where they have a special respirator attached to their helmet that allows them to breathe fire

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a La Rammstein

gray umbra
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Its a mutation to their acid spit gland thing

jade holly
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Salamanders can spit acid??

gray umbra
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Space marines can in general

jade holly
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Bruh

gray umbra
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Yeah its almost never mentioned

jade holly
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Rammstein is a hilarious band tho

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All the fire is because their lead singer used to work in pyrotechnics

dusk patrol
gray umbra
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I havent listened to rammstein in a hot minute

jade holly
jade holly
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and not actual fire breath

dusk patrol
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It looks like fire

jade holly
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like idiots

dusk patrol
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Chapters generally have powers which fit the theme, Iron Hands have one which flenses all non bionic targets, and a lot of stuff involving vehicles and increasing squad toughness.

jade holly
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Oh hang on, new idea for the successor name “The Storm Dragons”

dusk patrol
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White scars have speed related stuff and precogition

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Space wolves have ice stuff

jade holly
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Ultramarines are Gary Stu’s

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Word Bearers yap too much

dusk patrol
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Raven guard cover the area in shadows and attack with swarms of ravens

jade holly
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Raven Guard, their primarch is named Corvus

gray umbra
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Its about as expected lol

dusk patrol
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Tbh as much as people clown on the root names meaning

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They largely work as names still I think

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Especially with the theming

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Like people clown on Ferrus Manus when he was literally called Iron Hands by the people of Medusa.

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Because you know it was a notable trait of his

jade holly
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Sometimes pun names are the best ones

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Helps you get the gist of who it is

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And what they do

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Then you have Robot Gorrila man

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Rowboat Ghillie Suit

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Wrong Booty Girly Man

storm jungle
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Most of them are pretty bad yeah.

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its very much "we came up with these in a pub"

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they are comicshit, it mostly works lol

dusk patrol
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They’re definitely memorable which is arguably most of the battle

jade holly
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Then we got one where I bet the discussion was like “Ok this guy is the destined child to lead the empire after his father. Fuck it, Horus, were done here”

dusk patrol
#

It is funny that Roboute Guilliman has arguably the hardest one to remember and say though

jade holly
#

For me it’s probably Corvus Corax cause I keep forgetting the Raven Guard exist

dusk patrol
#

There’s eighteen dudes and eighteen legions some are gonna get less focus

jade holly
#

Like the Night Lords

gray umbra
#

Sometimes i forget about the white scars

#

Even though theyre cool as fuck

dusk patrol
#

Way more than they deserve for their impact arguably.

gray umbra
#

The night lord trilogy is kind of based

dusk patrol
#

It’s very enjoyable

#

Lord of Night is also pretty fun

#

And they get some good heresy stuff

jade holly
#

Black Legion doesn’t count

#

They’re the cannon fodder for when you need chaos enemies

#

Their cool factor died with Horus

dusk patrol
#

Horus was the worst part of them

jade holly
#

And now they have nothing, nothing sick nor egregious

dusk patrol
#

He unfortunately doesn’t get to do a lot in the heresy

dusk patrol
#

You just need to read

storm jungle
#

They dont have much besides the trilogy and HH

#

and thats good

#

fuck em

dusk patrol
#

They’ve got multiple character besides, show up in multiple campaign books which flesh them out, lots of engagements. Arguably they got too much going on.

gray umbra
#

Theyre the ultramarines of chaos

storm jungle
#

Nah not that much going

#

they are very generic even when you put em under a microscope

#

they are fine for what they are but they are basically one-not villains

#

minus like um

#

"I always wanted ta be a hero"

#

skins child

dusk patrol
#

They got way more going on

storm jungle
#

They really dont man

#

almost half the stuff they do mixes into each other

dusk patrol
#

They have dudes from every legion, lots of unique little characters in different books and campaigns

#

They’re made so you can add anyone to them, they’re the generic option but they still have a lot going on.

storm jungle
#

Oh wait you are talking about black legion?

#

motherfucker im talking about night lords

dusk patrol
#

Pandorax, Fall of Cadia, Black Legion books, multiple campaigns

storm jungle
dusk patrol
#

Well then read dork

#

We’re talking about the BL

storm jungle
#

I got soup to sip on the side

dusk patrol
#

Smh

storm jungle
#

no time for it homeo

dusk patrol
#

But yes Night Lords are fairly one note

storm jungle
#

LMAO

dusk patrol
#

They got some good stuff and their niche

storm jungle
#

yeah there it is thank you

dusk patrol
#

They get more then most

#

More than Death Guard somehow

#

Smh

nocturne crest
#

Odd question, but why did the T'au main colour go from yellow/tan/cream to white?

gray umbra
#

I like first claw and their steal everything not nailed down mentality

dusk patrol
#

Different groups

gray umbra
#

Im at the part where they cuck huron

storm jungle
jade holly
#

But yeah how does the Infernal StormDrakes sound for a successor Chapter for Salamanders? Too wordy?

storm jungle
#

Tan isnt a great popping color for box covers

arctic talon
#

And also white pops way more

storm jungle
#

I mean uh

#

yes what he said

#

ahem

arctic talon
#

Like dilara said

storm jungle
#

darn 😔

arctic talon
#

The white scheme screams futuristic

#

High tech

storm jungle
#

GW would find a lore reason as to why they didnt attend their father's funeral.

arctic talon
#

But yeah there’s no major Tau sept characters

#

Fun fact

#

That’s horrifying to think about

dusk patrol
#

As Elite said, it pops more on boxes

jade holly
#

The only Tau character I know is Farsyte

arctic talon
#

All the major T’au sept characters

dusk patrol
arctic talon
#

Are codex only

#

Or background

#

Literally EVERYONE ELSE IS VIOR’LA

#

This happened before the scheme change as well

#

Farsight Vior’la, shadow sun, Vior’la, Aun’va Vior’la

#

Oh wait there’s one tau sept dude

#

With a mini

storm jungle
#

isnt he from like 1942

arctic talon
#

Darkstrider is Tau sept

#

Nah

#

Hes newish

storm jungle
#

Oh yeah his updated mini

arctic talon
#

So yeah we have a single tau sept character

#

I do wonder why GW didn’t make them all Tau sept

#

Like even way back then

storm jungle
#

They uh

#

prob forgot idk

arctic talon
#

Is that

storm jungle
#

thats a servitor

gray umbra
#

Nice

storm jungle
jade holly
#

Imagine getting turned into a servitor just to be the Roomba for an Admech

storm jungle
#

honestly my favorite thing to do is when people ask how smart servoskulls are

#

and i get to post roomba gifs

#

since its literally about as far as their intelligence goes

#

lol

gray umbra
#

Doorknob level intellect

storm jungle
#

basically no different from working IRL

#

some fucked up commentary

dusk patrol
#

Servo skulls aren’t servitors though, they’re just skulls with a cogitator and mechanical stuff inside

#

Some a little quirkier than others

storm jungle
#

the servoskulls do get a bit quirky at night

gray umbra
#

What dat mouth do

viral halo
#

Hola lore chat

#

how is it going

storm jungle
#

uh

#

bad timing

viral halo
#

What did I do

viral halo
#

remember all the sick tau boxes in the early 2000s

storm jungle
#

They were fun but alas I dont speak Corporatese

#

they demanded White is the dominant Color

viral halo
#

mfw people share a reasonable and different opinion than me

arctic talon
#

I liked the ochre more ngl

#

But I get why it got changed

dusk patrol
spring cairn
#

sounds like i missed peak

dusk patrol
#

Servoral Skulls if you will

viral halo
#

Remember, inquisitor eisenhorn uses the R word so you can too

dusk patrol
#

Becoming an inquisitor to get access to the Sacred Book of Slurs

spring cairn
#

mfw i just wanted to say that i was late in french

arctic talon
viral halo
#

I love reading the early 2000s warhammer books where they actually curse

#

so cozy

dusk patrol
#

They do it more in more recent books

#

I do like the sci fi swearing though, it does feel like planets would have their own swearing

storm jungle
#

Yeah basically almost any word that isnt "fuck" is allowed.

#

its due to UK literature censorship laws iirc, its very strict

#

anyway so about this flaying mutilation passage-

arctic talon
#

The Archmagos in space marine 2 actually said a slur

#

That’s why he’s censored

storm jungle
#

And got cancelled by Imurah

#

💀

arctic talon
#

LOL

dusk patrol
#

My favorite moment is actually pretty clever, when the one Inquisitor lady is trying to seduce Gaunt so she goes into his mind and tries to associate “Feth” in his head with fuck but Feth doesn’t mean fuck, it’s a name for a Tanith god so it makes him snap out of it.

#

Because she uses the incorrect grammar and root of the word lol

viral halo
#

if Eisenhorn can say ret@rd, then let someone say fuck damn it

arctic talon
#

The tithes warhammer+

#

They say fuck several times

#

Guess fuck is the canonical swear word on Cadia

viral halo
#

several, you say?

#

Color me intrigued

arctic talon
#

Yes

viral halo
#

literal hellhole of a country

#

hope it sinks into the ocean

storm jungle
#

LOL

#

THATS A BIT EXTREME

viral halo
arctic talon
#

Do not

#

LOL

green loom
#

I like the helmets in 3d like this ngl

storm jungle
#

they look like Toy Story

#

(complimentary)

viral halo
#

Bring back unique guard regiments

#

need my fucking armageddon steel legion

gray umbra
#

You will have your cadians and you will enjoy them

paper haven
#

Attilan Rough Riders do not get enough love

arctic talon
#

They just got minis

storm jungle
#

Lmao i forgot about those already

arctic talon
rocky gale
#

The most common conversion for Rough Riders is to just put Cadian heads on them

arctic talon
#

Good minis tbh

jade holly
#

I think I finally found a good name for my Salamander successor chapter

#

Thunder Wyrms

gray umbra
#

Call them the..thunder warriors

jade holly
#

No

gray umbra
#

So whats the deal with the IA exaction squads and executioner shotguns

#

Is there anything specific to their shotguns or is it just the hype behind arbites and shotguns

rocky gale
#

Think Dark Heresy first fleshed out the Arbites shotgun as the Vox Legi-pattern arbites combat shotgun and if I remember statwise it's a beast, basically it's a shotgun that's incredibly complex to produce and super overdesigned but the end result is a super sturdy and reliable shotgun (It also counts as a melee weapon)

#

Also Executioner shells

#

Which are shotgun shells which can lock on and track targets

#

There's also a lore bit about how it specifically has a pump action function as an intimidation tactic

#

So when the Arbites face a potential Riot they can stand in front of the rioters and pump their shotguns in unison to cause them to disperse

gray umbra
#

Oh thats sick

#

Them having shotties was understandable, just thought it was weird they have a model that has a shotgun for sniping

arctic talon
#

The shotguns are automatic(technically) iirc

#

Oh that

rocky gale
#

Yea think the Sniper bit is the Executioner Shells

rocky gale
arctic talon
#

Wait I’m messing it up with marine shotguns

#

Which have a pump function but are also automatic

gray umbra
#

Hm im tempted to get the ia combat patrol, just for painting. Last time i went to a gw store someone bullied me into getting csm because ia is apparently not good atm

#

Or just the blooded so i can swap out my cultist models and pretend theyre traitor guardsmen

hushed merlin
#

Why is the majority of the zealot armor look the way it does? Someone mentioned to me it was fashioned after the death cult?

storm jungle
#

Because its just how zealots wear stuff in 40k

#

Robes, flowing garments, haphazard armor, leather masks, etc

echo vault
#

Just remembered the Elysian plasma gun, what is this

arctic talon
queen laurel
#

From straight up knights to god damn leather wearing battle hungry maniacs

storm jungle
#

all of them have carry handles lmfao

rose thorn
#

New seraphon for underworlds got leaked B T W

#

AOS is doing 40k’s work

echo vault
#

If he isn't careful his hand is done for

storm jungle
#

classic FW moment

storm jungle
rose thorn
#

Model

echo vault
arctic talon
echo vault
#

The flamer is reasonable though surprisingly

idle knoll
viral halo
#

Hate seeing the old FW guard models

#

I get a sense of longing

#

I miss the old website

rose thorn
arctic talon
#

Resin

#
  • dif sculptors from citadel
low gazelle
#

Do yall think forerunners from halo would survive or thrive in 40k?

#

Or just get exterminated

jade holly
#

I honestly forget how powerful forerunners are and what they do

dusk patrol
#

Very

#

They’d probably do fine

#

Although warp stuff would be an issue

crystal forum
#

usually people ask about master chief in 40k

#

he would do.... fine

#

don't know what he'd want to do though in such a shitty universe

glad wadi
jade holly
#

I pity the warp

crystal forum
#

doomslayer would win

#

i dont care against who

#

he would win

jade holly
#

You don’t ask if Doomslayer would fare in 40k

#

You ask if 40k can survive Doomslayer

low gazelle
jade holly
#

Sounds like Necrons

low gazelle
#

Basically immortal suits

#

that keep them alive for years on end

#

And weapons that killed gods

#

of halo essentially

#

Only reason they lost against flood

#

is because syndicate b decided to betray them

#

due to a gravemind being convincing

jade holly
#

I’ve been looking over my attempt at a Salamanders successor chapter

low gazelle
#

even then they made a weapon fire that wiped out all life in one galaxy

#

So anti terminid

jade holly
#

And now I’m wondering if I should ditch the thunder part and fully embrace the draconic element of it

low gazelle
#

mendicate bias

jade holly
#

Mendicate bias?

low gazelle
#

Mendicate got a virus that made him swap teams

#

essentially

#

the most advance AI in the verse

#

thats the only reason forerunners lost

jade holly
#

Oh you’re still talking about Halo

#

Thought it was a 40k thing

#

Now I need a new name for this successor chapter

shell mason
#

joy toy primarchs look cool as hell

jade holly
#

Found a new name and this has shaped the successor chapter in a whole new direction

#

The World Serpents

#

So you know how the Salamanders are like one of the few legions to actually not treat humans like shit?

#

Not these guys

#

They won’t go out of their way to be colossal jerks to humans

#

It if there’s a Xeno nearby? Chances are they won’t think twice about the human

shell mason
#

its nearly midnight

#

get some sleep

jade holly
#

Nah

#

Too busy writing

#

You know

#

I write a whole lot

#

Makes me wonder why I’m majoring in IS

shell mason
crystal forum
#

i love modelling but no way in hell would i switch my career path to it

crisp heath
#

Man, power fists really look so stupid when it’s just the one arm

jade holly
thick cedar
#

Is there any lore to soul fire? Or is it just fire produced by a psyker?

celest dome
#

There is Pyromancy discipline, but if you mean the thing that happen to enemies via the tree.

#

Then i think it's just interpretation of Souls burning like candles in the Warp

thick cedar
#

This game kinda low-key showed that space marines are overhyped

#

you just solo chaos space marines and even a lord of change

#

a shame the game is bad though

queen laurel
thick cedar
#

also the player character plays a fresh-faced tau recruit

#

so either hes a fucking god

#

or anime protag

paper haven
#

Well he is sort of being cheered on by Khorne. That's sort of like an anime protag, right?

opaque coyote
#

The recruit basically got buffed by Khorne

#

And throughout the entirety

#

The recruit is very confused

#

And his comrades around him are fucking terrified of him

#

Because in their point of view he is a reckless, overly skilled mad man

#

I think it ends with him in an insane asylum

#

The chaotic shit and things he's been through taking a toll on him

#

Although being in an insane asylum is better than

#

A lot of fates in 40k let's be fair here

#

He actually has a chance to live a decent life

paper haven
#

Thing is, there is zero chance that asylum can actually stop him if he decides that Khorne had a point.

queen laurel
#

Like these three single handedly slaughtered multiple enemies way out of their weight class through sheer firepower and movement

unkempt dove
#

singlehandedly used bad writing to take a titan down with a handheld weapon

green loom
#

WAIT

#

BRUNT IS MISSING

tough haven
thick cedar
tough haven
#

Huh

#

Neat

#

I actually liked the book tbh

#

It was interesting, semi different

shadow plover
#

I've never heard someone know the book but not know the game

tough haven
#

Also wait, is there more than one?

tough haven
shadow plover
#

fair, but you'd think you'd first find out about the game before the book

#

that's like knowing Dawn of War as books before finding out they're based on the games

queen laurel
#

that takes care of the weapon shop?

green loom
#

Yes

#

The first two guards talk about it

queen laurel
#

yeah seems to be the case

#

which would be very weird because you would expect him to be just around

green loom
#

"any word on where Brunt is at?"
"Not anything, he could be dead for all I know"

queen laurel
#

After all his job is selling weapons so he's probably securing some

shadow plover
#

Look at these disgusting Plaguebearers

celest dome
#

Is the white one Gor-Rok ? As Itzl is part of where he is from iirc

#

Or Itza is pledged to Itzl

queen laurel
celest dome
#

Similar scar placement, and weapons too...

queen laurel
#

yes it's one of those cases where they turn the character into a generic leader or unit

celest dome
#

That I understand, but why have a new model still follow that look, at least for the scars

queen laurel
#

White seems to be just like a coloration to indicate what they are though

celest dome
#

But why the scar staregryn
That's what I'm bugging on

queen laurel
dense mortar
#

Do Chapter Masters have their own guards? And are the pretty strong? For reference, in Space Marine 2 Lord Calgar drops out of the thunderhawk with two bulwarks on his left and right at all times.

celest dome
#

Honour Guards

lapis verge
#

The Victrix Guards are one such honour guard regiment for the Ultramarines

rose thorn
queen laurel
#

3 characters all seem to be Elite fighters

rose thorn
#

But also idk how this edition plays yet

lapis verge
#

Every Legion's honour guard are certified to go 120% hard

dense mortar
#

You gotta be a serious sumbitch to go that hard.

lapis verge
#

Take a guess who commands the Victrix Guard KEKW_ogryn

lapis verge
#

It is THE him KEKW_ogryn KEKW_ogryn KEKW_ogryn

green loom
#

I hope he gets a model

outer wave
#

What would you guys think of if GW decided to add a Morghur-esque of character to Tyranids in the form of a notable GSC Primus/Magus that keeps coming back, whether its due to successful absorption of worlds or by death and their conscienceness returns to the Hivemind in time or some shit?

#

Do you think that would give Tyranids as a whole more character or no?

queen laurel
#

Tyranids?

#

Eh

#

Tyranids are made in a way that they are quite literally just evolving psychic dinosaurs that eat people

#

if you're going to give tyranid's characteristics it's going to the hive mind

charred jewel
outer wave
#

Explain that point

charred jewel
#

Make the cults slowly realize what the hive fleets are up to. And try to mind-seize them over

charred jewel
# outer wave Explain that point

In the ending of mass effect 3. One ending is having the main character take over all the giant killer squids eating the universe

outer wave
charred jewel
#

And then. The bigger threat of GSC. Is that unlike chaos that starts breaking tech with scrap-code and with chaos influence just ruining armies to infighting. GSC is a perfect bio-technical organism that just absorbs everything

queen laurel
#

this thing constantly feeds them visions of having grander goals and stuff

charred jewel
#

Do something with the ymggrls

#

I honestly would maybe make a GSC army if I knew it could, lore wise have bigger ambitions than by luck never run into tyranids

#

Feels lame

queen laurel
charred jewel
#

The shit with the blood angels. Does suck

outer wave
charred jewel
#

The hive mind is hungry. It’s just hungry. It doesn’t hate. Hate takes away from hunger

charred jewel
#

Hate that shit

queen laurel
#

the hive mind always knows

charred jewel
queen laurel
#

Even the more independent strains quite literally return to them when the opportunity arises

charred jewel
#

That’s a selling story

outer wave
#

Ymmgrls would work well in that case

charred jewel
#

Also make custodes male only again. Ruins juxtaposition of male-to female with sisters of silence and super-elite to elite marines/sister of battle

#

Or. Give me a mister of silence!

charred jewel
tough haven
#

Completely unrelated but I’m trying to not so subtly partially co-opt the concept of flayed one’s into my fantasy setting and I’m not sure how to do that well without it being so blatant

charred jewel
tough haven
#

Yeah but I also can’t just use generic skeletons cause those don’t exist in this setting

#

I was thinking maybe I could do like some sort of animated humanoid stone constructs, but idk how I’d work that in

#

There are kinda poxwalker type creatures that are parasitized that I could maybe have a variant be flayed one esque, but that kinda doesn’t fit

#

I just really like their schtick

tulip sand
#

What is a storm raptor/storm serpent? The ships flying us and other things in and out of missions

#

Reminds me of a hind kind of

tulip sand
#

I looked online and this is all that came up:

tulip sand
queen laurel
tulip sand
#

So whats a storm raptor

queen laurel
tulip sand
#

Oh damn you're right

#

I swear it looked different to me

queen laurel
tulip sand
#

Like more chunky/blocky or maybe that was DLSS 😭

tulip sand
charred jewel
#

You know

#

I’m thinking and I’m kind of pissed off

#

….a universal mass conveyer. Can support up to 10 billion people on board

#

Not comfortably. Mind you

#

But like

#

If you just, squeeeeeeeeeze. You just fucking squeeeeeeeze them in. I’m sure there’s a mathematician. Who could like. Obviously no one’s taking a shower, people are going to get stuck in the guns and die horribly. The common cause of death is squishing. But 500k? 500k? What the fuck? That’s nothing. That isn’t even the armies of WW2

#

Escorts can support. They should, at least 10 million people

#

30k people on board? 50k? 20k? 10k? Unacceptable

tulip sand
#

What is the purpose of this? A colony ship?

arctic talon
rocky gale
#

Big if true

storm jungle
#

I mean

#

it very much looks legit

#

also lmao the burning CSM helmet, not primaris but sitll good

arctic talon
storm jungle
#

Lmao fair

arctic talon
#

Like the belakor reveal was funny as hell

#

They just showed the primaris LT on his base

opaque coyote
storm jungle
shadow plover
#

yeah fair, I'll give this to him

queen laurel
#

Once in a blue moon he can be right

jade holly
#

A broken clock is right twice a day

fallen marsh
arctic talon
#

Majorkill has made a good point

#

Impossible

jade holly
#

How common are geneseed mutations in successor chapters?

#

and how extreme do they usually get?

queen laurel
arctic talon
arctic talon
jade holly
#

How likely can harder scale like skin and Betcher’s Gland releasing a flammable gas be?

arctic talon
#

The scale like skin might be very concerning