40k-lore-chat

[tough haven]

Which is sad cause I like explorator

I’ve got a list for all of them but I do themed lists

So it’s just for fun

[arctic talon]

You have a stratagem that’s 2 command points for reroll wounds brother 💀

After you leave a vehicle

That shit is ass

[rose thorn]

LMAO

WHAT

[vast crystal]

Do you really want me to die?

[tough haven]

No I mean I like it’s idea

[arctic talon]

No

[vast crystal]

Or do you want me to suffer?

[tough haven]

Not actually playing it

[arctic talon]

Neither

To be honest

I actually like talking to everyone in this chat

[rose thorn]

yay!

[arctic talon]

Honestly

The only admech units rn that are

Completely unplayable

Are the flyers, stilt boy and radium chicken

Everything else is viable I’d say

[rose thorn]

honestly being a warhammer fan and a fallout fan feels like 2 sides of the same coin sometimes..

[vast crystal]

I feel like you're lying to me

[normal stream]

stilt boy and radium chicken LMAO

[arctic talon]

Hey

[vast crystal]

But then again I usually dont

[arctic talon]

I’m using the funny names

[arctic talon]

Nah

[rose thorn]

WHAT IS THISSSSSS

[normal stream]

I hate the 40k admech look that they went with for skitarii and cult mechanicus

Much prefer the Taghmata look

[arctic talon]

Idk I like how skitarii look

[rose thorn]

Me too, skitarii are what i like about admech

[arctic talon]

Taghmata stuff still exists in 40k

As well

[vast crystal]

I hate the admech because there incompetent moronic nerds (derogatory)

[arctic talon]

[normal stream]

The normal skitarii troops look fine

Chicken walker, some of the tanks

The planes

[arctic talon]

We just never got fires of cyraxus

[normal stream]

are ugh

[rose thorn]

i dont like the HH stuff of adhmech, it feels too generic robot

[arctic talon]

Do you not like the crawler?

[rose thorn]

i liek the tank though

[normal stream]

Oh boy, that's vaporware by now

[normal stream]

I do like the Onager

[arctic talon]

Or do you dislike the skorpius

Ngl the skorpius became less stupid once i learned it has an energy shield

[normal stream]

The skorpius looks weird

[vast crystal]

Unlike my beloved space marines who are incompetent morons (affectionate)

[arctic talon]

It’s like

I like it overall

[normal stream]

It looks like someone took one of those WW2 landing craft and put antigrav on it

[arctic talon]

I think lol

I like the tank version

The transport versions silly until you learn it’s got an energy shield

And even then it’s just

[normal stream]

The tank version's a bit better

[arctic talon]

Okay I guess

[normal stream]

But that little round bottom is just kinda like

Looks like a floaty pool toy

[arctic talon]

Lol

It is a grav vehicle

As in actual grav not Cawls

Shitty great value stuff

[normal stream]

I like the lore and background

I don't like the actual design

[arctic talon]

The execution

Ngl

Can admech and mechanicum

[normal stream]

Like why do their fucking flyers look like birds

[arctic talon]

Cross pollinate

Like they’re supposed to

[normal stream]

BUT WHY

[arctic talon]

Idfk

[normal stream]

I get that it's the design aesthetic

But

[arctic talon]

The wings are like

Not required for function

[normal stream]

For a group that's like "we hate organic life"

[vast crystal]

Fallslop fan not completely miss the point challenge

(Impossible)

[normal stream]

it's like, "ok so why look like birds, are you guys space druids now or something"

[arctic talon]

Idfk

The wings aren’t even required for it to fly lore wise

It’s for gliding and fuel efficiency or some shit

[normal stream]

that seems so pointless to have wings then

[arctic talon]

Yeah idfk

[normal stream]

what happened to "optimize the shit out of our stuff"

[arctic talon]

Idk

[vast crystal]

Is it actually worth it to be a 40k fan at this point?

[arctic talon]

The stc came like that

[arctic talon]

Yeah?

[normal stream]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

Just don’t be weird about being a fan

Tbh

[normal stream]

"It's a fucking stupid design but the STC came like that"

Meanwhile 20millenia ago some fucking kid tinkering with his dad's STC

[vast crystal]

I am unable to pull myself out of this rabbit whole and I hate basically everyone else who whent down it

For different reasons

[arctic talon]

LOL

[normal stream]

weird vibe

[arctic talon]

The worst part is

They might be the reasoning

The thing is fucking fast

In lore btw

[vast crystal]

How so?

[arctic talon]

Like the pilots get modifications to handle it properly

[normal stream]

"unable to pull myself out of this rabbit hole"
"Hate basically everyone else who's [also in the rabbit hole]" like what

[vast crystal]

It's called hating the fanbase of something you like

The same thing applies to the gaming community at large for me

[normal stream]

Just hate parts of the fanbase, it's classier that way

[normal stream]

weird thing to say in a gaming community of that hobby..

[arctic talon]

“This is the most idiotic design ever”

“It’s faster then a thunderbolt shut the fuck up”

[vast crystal]

Bold of you to assume I give two shits about class

[celest dome]

If it's stupid but it work, is it really stupid ?

[normal stream]

HAHAHAHAHA

[arctic talon]

The wings usage is for gliding and hovering

Found it

[vast crystal]

Do you not also hate gamers?

[normal stream]

so, what, you're just here to whine to the very same people you're whining about?

[storm jungle]

Thats literally what the guy says, idk what else you want me to say buddy.

[arctic talon]

Aside from that it’s just a fast as shit plane

Thank you stc creator

[storm jungle]

I was too busy uh

gayming

[arctic talon]

It’s as aerodynamic as the other imperial planes

Which is to say

[vast crystal]

Be stronger in your opinions about things

[normal stream]

Nope, otherwise I wouldn't be here

[arctic talon]

Not really

[storm jungle]

I literally do not care dude

[dusk patrol]

Me when 40k design aesthetics aren't realistic

[storm jungle]

It sucks but it is what it is.

[normal stream]

I mean, other planes are... flying bricks

[dusk patrol]

[arctic talon]

I’m finding the funny image

About thrust

One moment

[celest dome]

Imperial Leaflet

[dusk patrol]

None of it makes a lick of sense

[celest dome]

iirc

[vast crystal]

Me when 40k isn't tacticool millslop

[normal stream]

you don't need aerodynamics in space tbf

[normal stream]

LMFAO

[storm jungle]

the only realistic aircraft is like

the ork MiGs

[arctic talon]

Orks

Lol

[storm jungle]

and the Eldar jetcraft

which are literally just IRL vtols

but more smooth lol

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/for-a-brick-he-flew-pretty-good-halo2-halo2anniversary-maxenmajs-gif-21038830

[normal stream]

Ork migs are hilarious

[storm jungle]

i do like how its just

Literally a mig
Place some scrap plates on it

[vast crystal]

I came here to talk about darktide and the lore originally

[celest dome]

Chaos Jet dragon ?

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[normal stream]

Both of those sound like gaming communities of an otherwise very niche hobby..

[normal stream]

hey that's grounded in history, so says D&D

[celest dome]

I don't think we should consider airplanes that are grounded

[storm jungle]

Yeah aside from orks and eldar thats basically it

because again their are based on literal aircraft

the others are a lot more sci-fi stuff

[vast crystal]

This is a darktide server

[storm jungle]

Sir this is a Wendy's

[celest dome]

Vultures are somewhat realistic iirc
No wait it's the lightning

[vast crystal]

👆

Yeah basically

[storm jungle]

I meant more as in "people can talk about what they want"

we arent that tight on moderation as long as nobody is being troublesome lol

[celest dome]

It's cute

[storm jungle]

Pretty gay

[normal stream]

You're in the lore section

[normal stream]

Have you seen the Avenger?

It's gorgeous

[vast crystal]

To talk about 40k in a non tabletop context

[normal stream]

Fucking 41st millennium A-10

[celest dome]

Pod racing looking ass plane

[vast crystal]

Because i don't play the tabletop game

Even though I should atleast get into kill team

[celest dome]

How did this whole thing start again ?

[normal stream]

Sounds like the SM2 discord might be more up your alley if you don't want to talk about the tabletop game then

[vast crystal]

I hate the official discord of that game

[storm jungle]

How could such a beloved game's discord server be that terrible

[vast crystal]

But i have an Unoffifial one I'm in that's cool

[normal stream]

I mean that's where everyone who doesn't want to talk about TT40k but wants to talk about 40k goes

[vast crystal]

Gamers

[normal stream]

We're literally gamers here too

[storm jungle]

Yeah I was being sarcastic

but also what he said

[normal stream]

Same vibes

[celest dome]

Nah, Pod racing plane

[normal stream]

I still haven't finished painting mine up yet, and it's been 8 years

[vast crystal]

Gamers™️*

[normal stream]

I could never settle on a paint scheme for my Elysians' organic air wing

So they're all primed but unpainted

[shadow plover]

the FW imperium planes are such an aesthetic

[normal stream]

They really are.

[shadow plover]

Arvus Lighter my beloved

[storm jungle]

ah yes

my favorite bath toy

(this is a compliment)

[normal stream]

I find it funny how the Arvus has singlehandedly shown up as the most common flyer everywhere in 40k

Like, I'm not sure the original designer of the model realized that was going to happen

[storm jungle]

i think its because the designers never fucking bother making any other mark of dropship so they just resort to that

[vast crystal]

Are you sure this isn't a star wars server

[storm jungle]

unlike star wars where the visual media creates SO MANY fucking spacecraft

[normal stream]

Hey hey hey, my Valkyries/Vendettas argue otherwise

[shadow plover]

Curse of being the only unarmed ship shown

[opaque coyote]

"In Dark Imperium, Guilliman reflects on his return. One thing he notices is that supposedly sacred texts ostensibly written by Guilliman himself had either been altered or were written by someone else. When he tried to correct the record the Ultramarines mostly ignored him and continued quoting the apocryphal sources as if they were from Guilliman."

[storm jungle]

No i meant like used my non-military stuff

okay well you CAN do that in books

but visual model media is deffo lacking

[normal stream]

Yeah, fair

[storm jungle]

since why the fuck would they make a dropship model that doesnt belong to a bigname faction i guess

[normal stream]

There's no "civillian shuttle"

yup

[storm jungle]

Yeah that

[shadow plover]

granted it really got more prevalent in the last couple years

they weren't as common say 5 years ago

[storm jungle]

yeah that too

[normal stream]

I mean it showed up in the Battle for Maccrage starter set, I was surprised by that

[storm jungle]

its great seeing them get used in games, same with the square landing platforms

[normal stream]

(wrecked, but still)

[storm jungle]

I keep wojakpointing whenever i see a landing pad i ndarktide

[opaque coyote]

"I did not write this"

"But you did though"

"No, this clearly was written by someone else "

"But sir, excerpt cockglobber IV of the shitdick chapt-"

"I DID NOT FUCKING WRITE THAT-"

[normal stream]

Oh yeah, the square ones with the clipped corners?

Errr, what did they call those

[storm jungle]

Yep! lmao

Uhhh

some gay latin shit

[shadow plover]

different plane

[storm jungle]

hold on

[normal stream]

SKYSHIELD

[storm jungle]

SKYSHIELD

LANDING PAD

[normal stream]

I remember it was skysomething

Because

It could fold up

[storm jungle]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Skyshield_Landing_Pad

[normal stream]

And provide IIRC 5+ invul save?

[storm jungle]

Pretty fucked up....

WAIT IT HAS STATS?

[normal stream]

YES LOL

[storm jungle]

BRO ITS JUST SCENERY

[normal stream]

Back when buildings had stats

[shadow plover]

I bought one when they came back to made to order, waiting to be built

[storm jungle]

😭

[normal stream]

Like terrain pieces could be brought as a fortification piece

[storm jungle]

ah fair

ye they've been around since like

6th ed i think???

old af, i love em

[arctic talon]

It still has stats

[normal stream]

yeah!

[arctic talon]

In legends

[normal stream]

It still trips me up how they differentiated the stationary hydra turrets

And call those skyfires now

They used to be called "Hydra emplacement"

[storm jungle]

Lmfao rebranded

[opaque coyote]

Hydra Dominatus...

[normal stream]

I am alpharius

[storm jungle]

Brainrotius.....

[normal stream]

ahh, the days of 40k emplacements

[vast crystal]

Dopamineus

[normal stream]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_Bastion

Remember this?

The fucking space castle

[vast crystal]

Serotoninite

[storm jungle]

I love those

fucking flak towers

[normal stream]

Yeah it's SO 40k I love it

[jade holly]

I mean, Sororitas has walking cathedrals

So why not space castles

[shadow plover]

This is what I wish I had

[normal stream]

Tau had the really cool shield wall too:

[shadow plover]

or the fortress of redemption

[normal stream]

And the giant ass auto-railgun:

[arctic talon]

They still sell this one

It’s sick

I love the tide wall so much

Not as a game piece but just as like

Terrain

[normal stream]

That and the necron gauss are the only 40k things with the colored clear "effect" plastic right?

[shadow plover]

thankfully the they've moved on from the necron clear plastic bits

[normal stream]

I once saw this fuck up a Warhound lol

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

Tidewall Gunrig

[normal stream]

whoa

[arctic talon]

Yeah Necrons got

[normal stream]

Man those clear plastic bits were a vibe though

[arctic talon]

Normal plastic with dots now

[storm jungle]

only reason i remember its name is because a friend of mine said it sounds like a star wars character

[arctic talon]

They tubes were kind of a pain

[normal stream]

not wrong lmao

[arctic talon]

The tidewall is great for killteam

As a fluff piece

[shadow plover]

the fucking monolith diamond was so bad

[arctic talon]

Or have the gun work lol

[storm jungle]

you mean uh

those ring-candy things

[arctic talon]

Ye

[normal stream]

I still have one of these dudes lying around in my model storage bins in my parents' place

[storm jungle]

this is fucked up

[normal stream]

from the OG white dwarf model

[normal stream]

LOL

[storm jungle]

Literal relic

never lose that lmao

[normal stream]

fucking monolith

HAHAHAHA

[storm jungle]

THE WORST PART IS

ITS LITERALLY THE SAME SHAPE

AND TONE

[normal stream]

Man, I really wonder if someone's actually ever replaced their monolith topper with a ring pop

That would've been hilarious

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

I bet they might have

again it looks exact

[normal stream]

The color is the funniest bit

[arctic talon]

New monolith has THE ORB

[jade holly]

What does a monolith look like

Old monolith

[arctic talon]

Both the new and old monolith exist

In lore is the funny thing

[shadow plover]

the new is fucking great

[arctic talon]

They got side by side art in pariah nexus

[normal stream]

what

Can monoliths still do that close combat attack

where they yeet you into the portal

LMAO

[arctic talon]

Yes

Lol

[normal stream]

HAHAHAHAH

[storm jungle]

IT VORES YOU?

💀

DAMN

[arctic talon]

Yes

It fucking drags you in

And teleports you to god knows where

[storm jungle]

sending you to the lego star wars dimension

[arctic talon]

Funniest shit ever

[normal stream]

LOL

Sending you to ring pop hell

Okay I kinda fuck with the new monolith and the exiting warrior though

I do like how dynamic they've made a lot of the new models after moving to CAD designs

[arctic talon]

The new necron monolith lore wise is described as being better at transporting

But worse durability wise

[normal stream]

ah

[arctic talon]

Well “new”

It’s always existed

[normal stream]

Wait it doesn't actually "transport" though

[arctic talon]

Retroactively

[normal stream]

It kinda.. teleports shit in

[arctic talon]

The portal is bigger

[normal stream]

So it has a.. better teleporter?

LOL

[arctic talon]

And more “efficient”

Yeah

[normal stream]

"We made the door bigger"

[arctic talon]

It’s got a better teleporter

Lol

But you can fit bigger stuff through as well lol

[normal stream]

Oh interesting

[arctic talon]

The old monolith is built like a brick shithouse

But can’t really fit stuff bigger then an destroyer through

[storm jungle]

they were legit cooking some good necro-c'tankush with the necron 9th edition update models

[normal stream]

Yeah, a lot of the new models are amazing

[green loom]

Necron-tuah

[normal stream]

Even the 'nids, call me a heretic

ok except maybe the exposed brain on the neuro-everythings

[arctic talon]

Nah I love the new nids

Except for the neurogaunts

[normal stream]

even the exposed brain?!

I get aesthetic designbut

still

[arctic talon]

Reminds me of the maleceptor

And neuro

[normal stream]

Didn't maleceptor come with the same wave of models?

[arctic talon]

Nah

Way older

[normal stream]

With the neurothrope and neurogaunts?

[arctic talon]

Malceptor is like 5e

Neurothrope is 7e

[normal stream]

5e? I don't I recall going up against any in 5E

Did they just have shit rules?

[arctic talon]

Let me double check

It might be 7e

Yeah bro was 7e

My bad

[normal stream]

Yeah 7e tracks more like it

6e was when I stopped 40k

Or, TT 40k at least

[arctic talon]

The brain thing is fine imo

I don’t think it’s their actual brain either

It’s like an extra one imo

[storm jungle]

lexi has a miniature release timeline if you wanna peek there

[normal stream]

Typical tyranids lmao

[normal stream]

Oh neat, didn't realize Lexi tracked that!

[arctic talon]

Ngl

The neurolictor reveal was funny

People were horny for that thing

[normal stream]

I mean it's kinda terrifying of a concept

Ok that one too

[arctic talon]

https://preview.redd.it/new-neurolictor-kit-v0-j3nldvzes4cb1.jpg?auto=webp&s=7119c7ac057fd31ab54faf2e35dcdbddeffcf12a

Like

[storm jungle]

yeah that pose is uh

[normal stream]

Pose looks weird tho

Yeah lmao

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Portal:Miniatures

here it is

[normal stream]

Ty!

[arctic talon]

I don’t get why people were down bad for it

Lol

[storm jungle]

You uh

deffo dont understand monsterfuckers

[shadow plover]

who does

[storm jungle]

Me for starters

and like

rest of the internet

[shadow plover]

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

No I get them, but I don’t get that one specifically

Lol

Actually nvm I see it now

[storm jungle]

it has a lot of humanoid features

[arctic talon]

Fucks sake

[storm jungle]

also tentacles

[arctic talon]

I can see why people are down bad for it now

[storm jungle]

and mindfucking

[arctic talon]

Lol

Yeah

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

Okay

[storm jungle]

TOOK LIKE 2M

[arctic talon]

I’m

[green loom]

It's the thighs

[arctic talon]

Also why is one of the most pious companions in Rogue trader Jae lmao

She’s very

Very

Weird lol

Not that it’s bad

[storm jungle]

Beats me tbh

shes pretty sleazy too

[spring cairn]

legs

don't ask

idk either

[green loom]

That's my line

[spring cairn]

i ain't no freak

[arctic talon]

Idk how she kept her like faith after ||being conscripted at 16 almost died in a meat grinder at 17 and then got made a sacrificial lamb to blame|| lol

[normal stream]

Lmfao I was going to say this, too

[green loom]

Hey man even some pirates stay faithful

[normal stream]

"the tentacles are bigger"

[green loom]

Kinda like closed off from the whole chain of command thing sometimes

[arctic talon]

This is true

But idk

The ||whole being offered up as the one to blame for most of your regiment being slaughtered is kind of insane, the fact she didn’t just lose faith is insane lol||

[storm jungle]

Loose Canon says it best

"And where was the Emperor when I was knee-deep in my entire platoon's blood?"

[rose thorn]

Hey chat what did I miss

[rocky gale]

RT talk I think

[arctic talon]

Yeah that lol

[rose thorn]

Stupid question what’s RT?

OH ROGUE TRADERS

[rocky gale]

Ye

[rose thorn]

every lgs I’ve gone to has the Ordo xenos box still available lmao

So if I’m gonna start my RT army I guess I would start there

If only I have an imperium army lmao

also i lost teh documents for my custo RT house ;~;

the sanest DC comic youtubers have the least followers lmao

[viral halo]

went to my LGS to check this theory: they have it in stock

[rose thorn]

Dominion, Biosanctus Brood Surge, Ordo Xenos, these are the holy trinity of shelf space wasters

[viral halo]

my LGS has about 30 dominion boxes

a ton of the brood brother kill teams bc GSC players aren't real

[rose thorn]

my LGS sold dominion for 108 dollars lmao

[viral halo]

suprisingly one of the chaos battleforces that insta sold out is at the store

[rose thorn]

same here

[viral halo]

I almost bought dominion for 75

[rose thorn]

its the box thats only the guard guys right?

[viral halo]

genestealer cults

[rose thorn]

ye brood brother guard

or is it the one that has the uh, space dwarves

[viral halo]

No clue I don't play boring factions

[rose thorn]

because the box with only them is genuine one of the worst deals you can ever buy for GSC

funfact, the brood brothers KT doesnt have rules for 40k, you can only use htem in 1 detachment

[rose thorn]

ive been waiting for literal years for GSC to get a new non hero unit

it will never happen

GW hates us

why deosnt brood brothers have fuckinh rules for 40k ;~;

come on, you killed brood brotehrs alredy let us have anotehr infantry unit at least

[viral halo]

Need new dark eldar

According to me, the one dark eldar player

[rose thorn]

every xenos need new units lmao

it only feels like orks have gotten a new unit lmao

[rocky gale]

Loved when they released a new Ork character and then 30 seconds later went "Yea and that's him gone, you can't buy him anymore"

[celest dome]

Harlequin got one.
But for the Sisters

[crystal forum]

do orks use tongue

[rose thorn]

What the fuck is this change??

[rose thorn]

They did that to AOS orks too lmao

[rose thorn]

Context I know why they did it, it just feels so weird

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[rocky gale]

Wait is this guy only getting released now?

He was shown off like 8 months ago

[storm jungle]

Average non-loyalist mini release moment

[rose thorn]

Do you know how long it took for the master of possession to release outside of a box?

[hallow plover]

does this guy have some god-aligned options?

[rocky gale]

Dunno

[hallow plover]

death guard players are still waiting for this guy

[rose thorn]

OMFG REALLY?!

HES LIKE THE MOST ICONIC DG

[hallow plover]

he was only released in the dark imperium and some magasine thing I think

its been what, 6 years?

[rose thorn]

[hallow plover]

hopefully they release him with our codex maybe in 2025?

[rose thorn]

What is his name

[hallow plover]

Lord of Contagion

there's also Lord Felthius that counted as a Lord of Contagion but I don't think they still sell him and his model is goofy

[rose thorn]

Oh ok he most he over produced luckily, he’s like 30 bucks on eBay

[hallow plover]

probably because of the magasines

othewise it was buying the Death Guard dark imperium set half

[arctic talon]

he does have a few

[jade holly]

How reasonable would it be to be able to hold a friendly conversation with Trazyn without him wanting to turn me into his newest addition to his collection?

Would I need to bribe him with something

[storm jungle]

Unless you are someone worth museum'ing you're pretty insignificant in his eyes

and need to serve or have some use for him

[hallow plover]

he'd probably just mindshackle you

[storm jungle]

or that yeah

[jade holly]

Is that better or worse than being a display

[storm jungle]

you literally get brainwashed with microscopic robot bugs

[hallow plover]

I think you only feel pain when you resist orders?

are you conscious when you're on display?

[jade holly]

You think he treats his curators well?

[storm jungle]

No lol

[crystal forum]

he doesnt treat anyone well

[storm jungle]

ever worked in an actual museum?

its pretty much that

[crystal forum]

he's bitchy

[storm jungle]

Depends on the display

he sometimes makes sure people are under stasis while others are FULLY aware

[hallow plover]

At least there's no public in Trazyn's

working with "people" is the worst 🙂

[jade holly]

You think he does personal audio recordings giving an overview on displays like The Penguin does in Arkham City?

[storm jungle]

Probably.

but also penguin arkham city museum reference nice

love that place

[jade holly]

Push the button

And watch the puppet dance

[hallow plover]

You're forced to listen to Trazyn's ||Fanfics||

[jade holly]

Ever heard of the canonical Emperor Calus fanfics

[hallow plover]

im not sure if I want to know more

[jade holly]

In Destiny he’s got an entire lore book dedicated to his fantasies of the guardians doing his bidding and killing off important people

like killing Osiris via a paradox

[hallow plover]

Destiny has great lore

[jade holly]

If only the game was good

[hallow plover]

I stopped playing with the curse of osiris

shame

D1 was the best

[jade holly]

Nothing beats The Taken King

We all know the first notes of his track

[storm jungle]

Destiny lore has some entries that are more metal than half the stuff in 40k its great

[viral halo]

Should I buy a fucking voidraven bomber or the other dark eldar plane

[rocky gale]

Razorwing is cheaper (Like almost half the price) but from what I remember Voidraven is better ruleswise

[dusk patrol]

Destiny more has some great stuff, I’ve kinda fallen off keeping up cause I don’t wanna go back to playing it

But I love the setting

[viral halo]

Isn’t that guy a cuckold?

[storm jungle]

Same here lol

its great because the setting goes from like

"Haha funny guardians kill wonky alien raiders"

to

"Lads you gotta kill a Giga C'tan Level God because hes gonna wipe out a million planets"

lol

[hallow plover]

so what was the deal with the pyramid dudes

I remember them being hinted

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/rim-shot-badum-tss-comedy-snl-kattan-armisen-gif-5380563

[dusk patrol]

It’s a long story

Basically they’re the ships of the main bad guys dudes and it’s this whole theme of atrophy vs rebirth

[hallow plover]

were they needed?

The 4 enemy factions were pretty dope

cabal, vex, fallen and the sorcerous guys

the moon is a spooky place

[storm jungle]

Uhhh its also complicated

like we could get into it

but holy fuck Destiny lore is like reading a sciencebook

both in good/bad ways

[dusk patrol]

There’s a lot to it, I’d recommend watching a summary of their whole deal on YouTube

Also as I said I’m not totally up to date so there’s probably more now

[rose thorn]

Come on gw, not even a box?

[winter vessel]

They were painted purple

[rose thorn]

At least give us like a 10% off box please

Chaos cultists should not be a KT 😭

CHAOS CULTISTS ARE 172 DOLLARS

[storm jungle]

LMAO WHAT

[rose thorn]

YEAH

[storm jungle]

is it like a huge pile?

[rose thorn]

So the KT works like, you have the HQ unit and normal cultists, and your cultists become the mutated guys

[storm jungle]

Ohh i see

so theres a mutie for every cultist model

that makes sense, but damn

[rose thorn]

You need 1 of each cultist unit besides like, the solo guy

[storm jungle]

😭

[rose thorn]

Hey why is the HH chaos stuff in the 40k section?

[nocturne crest]

Kitbashing?

[viral halo]

Because whoever set up the new website has a spark plug for a brain

[storm jungle]

the only correct answer

ALSO

86 FUCKING DOLLARS FOR A BLIGHT DRONE?

[rose thorn]

its a greater blight drone :3

[nocturne crest]

Is it also resin?

[storm jungle]

the greater the drone the greater the wallet

[nocturne crest]

Just wait until the greatest blight drone is released.

[rose thorn]

because a greater pain than normal plastic

[nocturne crest]

Knight sized drone that serves as flying transport for your DG.

[rose thorn]

holy gob batman the brave and the bold is so good

[rose thorn]

its gonna be an HQ that doesnt do anything

[nocturne crest]

I wish there was more superhero films that don't hate the idea of superheroes.

[rose thorn]

+1 to toughness for blight drones

[nocturne crest]

Case it point, Oz Cobb.

[rose thorn]

i heard the penguin show and the batman arent bad, they just did waht every other batman movei and show has done 50 times

[nocturne crest]

I heard the Penguin show is pretty good

[rose thorn]

i really like how The Caped Crusader handled fantasy elements

i wotn spoiler it because its an amazing show

and i suggest everyone watches it without giving amazon money

[nocturne crest]

Tbh, I wished the Batman series from 2004 got more love.

[rose thorn]

ITS SO GOOD

it took a new take on all teh characters, and it was the first animed batman show after the batman animated series

it was an uphill battle

it was succesful and ended on its onw terms

[hallow plover]

Forge world

[rose thorn]

expert kit = expert wallet

[nocturne crest]

I wonder what would be cheaper. Making an actual robotic Dreadnought/Knight/Titan or making a Titan sized unit in 40k model scale.

One of those robotic toys that can walk and move around.

Oh my god.

I did not realise titans were that expensive.

[storm jungle]

[nocturne crest]

That actually shocked me.

Yeah, making a walking Titan toy would be cheaper than buying from GW.

[rose thorn]

im bingewatching batman brave and the bold, i appreciate how thsi batman is kinda defined by his side kicks. he picks them when the situation best fits but wants to help them imrpove

its kinda nutty

of course this is a veteran batman, so they need something lmao

[arctic talon]

Big fucking hunk of resin lol

[shell mason]

that price is crazy

[arctic talon]

Idfk, prolly for proxying

[arctic talon]

If it has 15+ it’s resin

[rose thorn]

When the hell did this release

This time Demon brutes

[normal stream]

Cheaper than the Vultarax automata it was warped from

https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/Mechanicum-Vultarax-Stratos-Automata?srsltid=AfmBOoochA_3E4mqyRjAIf7rJCSjwEOPAch_09HtrQG-hHlKPhwv18Zg

[nocturne crest]

Is there any guard regiments that deserves their own unique model releases?

[storm jungle]

[normal stream]

Are we including ones that are now OOP?

[nocturne crest]

I want to say Tallarn or the Chen dogs.

[hallow plover]

more cadians 🙂

[normal stream]

Catachan deserve a re-release, as well as Mordians.

[storm jungle]

Catachan is 100% happening

[nocturne crest]

Yeahm

[hallow plover]

you WILL get Cadians

[storm jungle]

the others who knows

[normal stream]

but what about

SLY MARBO

[storm jungle]

he got a mini

[hallow plover]

Isn't Death Korps announced?

[normal stream]

[nocturne crest]

Sly Marbo is now primarch size.

[storm jungle]

No like im not joking

he has a updated mini

[normal stream]

Oh, that's neat

[nocturne crest]

Yeah, Krieg is getting some models announced

[storm jungle]

Yeah it was awhile ago

[normal stream]

I'm surprised they gave him a new model but no new catachans.

[storm jungle]

they gave him the Escape from New York mac10

[normal stream]

LOL

[nocturne crest]

Got a pic?

[storm jungle]

Hold on

[normal stream]

I want my Elysians back,

[hallow plover]

nothin' beats a mac10

[hallow plover]

I mean, they're still using 1900's guns in the year 40000

[nocturne crest]

I love that.

[hallow plover]

Suppresed Mac10 with a scope

nice

[nocturne crest]

NEEDS IT IN DARKTIDE

[storm jungle]

its exactly Pliskin's gun, its great

[tough haven]

haunted ogryn armor

[nocturne crest]

Oh Lord! Oh Jesus christ!

It's weird to think that Transformers, Terminator and others are 40 year old franchises now.

[rose thorn]

i unironically used this in phantom forces lmao

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if you could mount a deathstrike missile to a sentinel.

[normal stream]

I'm sure you could jury rig something

[arctic talon]

badly prolly

[nocturne crest]

I'm sure the admech would accept a "found" STD.

[arctic talon]

*STC

not STD

[nocturne crest]

*STC

[arctic talon]

STD is the horrid abreviation for Chaos in AoS

all the short hand terms for Slaves to Darkness are terrible

Slaves, STDs

like

[tough haven]

They'd probably be immune to it

unless its scrapcode

[rose thorn]

a lot of people use S2D now luckily

[shell mason]

hey remind me

A hive city goes 7 miles high and 14 miles deep correct?

[arctic talon]

It depends

[shell mason]

but that's a rough estimate yes?

[arctic talon]

Yeah you could totally use that for a hive

[crystal forum]

is any 40k lore important

[rose thorn]

depends

also, holy shit brave and the bold has the most heart wretching version of the batman back story i think ive seen

it fucking hit different in this show

[odd palm]

Huh, didn’t know. What about Puppets of Ruination?

[rose thorn]

i need i need to find the clip from season 1

[arctic talon]

I mean I’d say the basics on each faction is important to know if you want to learn about each of them

[crystal forum]

which 40k books would help you survive in a forest

[arctic talon]

Any of them work to help start a fire lol

[rose thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm35ifwaBMc

[charred jewel]

There's just something so goofy about seeing a scope mounted on a suppressor itself

On a mac 10

[crystal forum]

escape from new york is a great movie

[soft thunder]

what are these ship things called?

[rose thorn]

Holy shit black mantis old comics were so bad

Manta*

[crystal forum]

arvus lighter

[crisp heath]

that is indeed a arvus lighter

[shell mason]

future attack helicopter

[tough haven]

I had to share my shitty joke from another server

[normal stream]

Are London, New York, Paris Berlin, Tokyo, and Shanghai all the same height, depth, and width?

[normal stream]

Unless you're worshippers of daddy nurgle

[arctic talon]

Arvus lighter

[crystal forum]

late

this is my realm

[normal stream]

I always feel like theres a lighter/heavier joke somewhere in there

[charred jewel]

Yo Elite, you know about the sisters of silence?

[arctic talon]

uh

some

[charred jewel]

Alright, so the rank structure, back in 30k went like this:

Scrub - acolyte

trainee in use - novice sister

Null-Maiden, with a shitton of variations

Prosecuter > Vigilator > Eradicator > Oblivion Knight which then enters a whole new chamber, Chamber of Oblivion from the usual vigilance > Raptora

then on a more command side, from Raptora > Knight Centura, to then Knight Abyssal, to then just jeneita crol, right?

[arctic talon]

I think

[charred jewel]

now, what confuses me is the blank-cops

The chamber of judgement girls, do to become a questoria, do you have to become a oblivion knight, and then you get the choice of either going down that chamber, or like can they just take raggedy ass prosecuters and promote them to chamber of judgement

[arctic talon]

I'm going to be honest idfk

[charred jewel]

zamn

You know someone who's like a sisters of silence enthusiast?

[crystal forum]

i think it's a joke about the avro lancaster

[normal stream]

I wasn't referring to real life references, more just.. Dad puns lmao

Like, this lmao

Idk every time I see arvus lighter I think of this joke

[opaque coyote]

So are Ogyrns as tall as Primaris

Or taller?

This is like the average Ogyrn btw

[normal stream]

Depends on who's writing

But I'd say they're a little shorter. Oggys were about the size as proper marines

And primaris are a little bigger/truescale

Speaking of, does this mean that all chaos marines are dinky now compared to primaris? I only recall them scaling up the height of chaos terminators

[charred jewel]

Little Ogryns are custodes height, or 9 feet

bigger ogryns reach about 11-13, i.e. a primarch in height

Custodes will sometimes disguise themselves as ogryns for operations, particularly to feral/feudal worlders who can't tell the giants apart

[rose thorn]

People who have access to the ‘liberal propaganda games’ list, is any of the warhammer games in there?

I’m so so curious

[normal stream]

I'd doubt it, the pax imperialis/aquilae can't be woke since it represents the best state that the world should be in, remember?

[rose thorn]

But also women with guns

[charred jewel]

You know I have a VR headset but I never played battle sister

I heard people say the game was pretty basic

anyhow, if I recall, the only game to get on that list was actually space marine 2. It didn't like the Cadian Major and Cadian female troopers

said it was "unrealistic"

that was it

[dusk patrol]

Where are you getting this from

[charred jewel]

White Dwarf 310, page 66

[dusk patrol]

Where on this page does it say that

[crystal forum]

aka found it on lexicanum

[dusk patrol]

Yes

Generally the height for them is 2.5-3 meters, 3 meters being fairly uncommon it seems.

2.5 putting them at about Primaris height, 3 is under ten feet.

There's niche examples like Charonites but they're gene enhanced and all that.

And don't exist anymore.

And Plague Ogryns obviously which are obviously not naturally occuring.

[charred jewel]

I mean....it looks bigger

[charred jewel]

Exposed my ass

[dusk patrol]

I did just copy and paste on lexi and the wiki before to make sure I know it was a BS source but I was also curious.

[charred jewel]

well, it says, a MIGHTY ogryn, can be considered that, so like, if it's considered mighty, you know, it can't be a normal ogryn, which also means its probably bigger

[normal stream]

Primary sources man

[crystal forum]

some shithead prob got in an argument and found the wackiest source to post with no context

[dusk patrol]

Its technically possible that they could reach that height I'm sure and there might be some out there who are that abnormally tall, but I don't think theres a source on it.

[crystal forum]

40k nerds need to eat cyanide sometimes

[rose thorn]

What the hell am I looking at

[dusk patrol]

Also primarchs often seem to be upwards of 14 feet tall, depending on the depictions. Although the armor definitely throws it off for some.

[rose thorn]

Ohh proxy rules

[dusk patrol]

And there's inconsistencies, like Valdor is mentioned to be taller than Russ in one short story irrc.

Russ being the shortest primarch is often forgotten or inconsistent how short that is though.

[dusk patrol]

me digging through for a source.

[crystal forum]

you can tell it's pirated because it's not CIA redacted

[rose thorn]

Do they still SCP file black out it?

[crystal forum]

can't let WH+ buyers have ANY value for their money

[charred jewel]

Who was taller: Angron or Russ?

[dusk patrol]

Angron

Angron just slouched

[crystal forum]

angron posture is bad because he's a beta cuck

[dusk patrol]

We mostly don’t know the primarch heights much beyond most seemed to be close, Ferrus was notably significantly taller than Vulkan and Corax, and seems to be the tallest, besides Magnus who did biomancy so it’s not clear how tall he was originally.

Russ was the shortest

Mortarion is also noted for being a little taller

Iirc Guilliman was a little shorter than the Lion and Sanguinius too

[crystal forum]

isn't it kinda funny that primarch heights is a debated topic in the fandom

[charred jewel]

Shorter than Alpharius?

I thought, for sure, Alpharius was the shortest, his officers were unusually tall, hence he was able to hide amongst them

Like the tallest-marines were alpha legion

[dusk patrol]

Alpharius and Omegon were short but not that much more than their other brothers

[arctic talon]

Regarding the size of CSM it depends wildly

Ammount of Chaos juice

genetics

ect.

for the minis

they're only a little shorter

[dusk patrol]

Dorn I believe is almost the same height as Alpharius when they fight

[normal stream]

I mean, the models

[normal stream]

No wonder he has ego issues

[crystal forum]

russ has wolverine energy

[dusk patrol]

Tbh he has probably the most impressive combat record of any primarch

He beat Magnus, he beat Horus but didn’t finish the job. The Lion comments on how he wouldn’t have been able to beat Russ if he was really trying, he wasn’t taking their duel seriously while the Lion was

[normal stream]

I would say Angron probably beats him...

[dusk patrol]

Idk, Russ’s issue is he’s not trying in most of his duels except Magnus

Not as much as he could

[arctic talon]

Nuscale marines

Aka marines but better proportioned

[normal stream]

ty @arctic talon

[dusk patrol]

Angron he explicitly didn’t want to kill him, same with the Lion and Horus

[dusk patrol]

Chaos terminators are unfortunately shorter than the new ones

[crystal forum]

model scale is borked. even HH mark 3 armour is primaris size

[normal stream]

always has been

OG terminators were on the same bases as normal marines lmao

[arctic talon]

They aren't primaris sized

[dusk patrol]

Yeah they’re embiggened a lot of stuff

[arctic talon]

They're similar

imo nuscale looks good

[crystal forum]

i have one right here fuck you

[arctic talon]

They literally aren't

the fuck

they're like slightly shorter

[dusk patrol]

They’re closer to the new CSM

[crystal forum]

only slightly

[arctic talon]

yes

thats the NUscale

[dusk patrol]

Yes primaris are slightly taller than normal marines

Like

It checks out

[arctic talon]

old marines were sad lol

[crystal forum]

stunty

[arctic talon]

as in old old scale

[dusk patrol]

But muh character

[crystal forum]

i genuinely hate old warhammer models

[normal stream]

I just hated the pewter.

[dusk patrol]

I do not care for it

[normal stream]

OK finecast was kinda worse but

at least it didn't cause my skin to itch

[dusk patrol]

And I’m convinced anyone who simps for the old scale is coping hard

[normal stream]

good lord fuck finecast looking melted half the time though

[dusk patrol]

I’ve never seen anyone who got introduced after primaris came out look at the old models and go “oh wow so much character”

[crystal forum]

"feature creep" is dumb af term for literally getting more stuff to paint

[dusk patrol]

THERES TOO MUCH DETAIL

Oh no they’re blank slates that’s bad, I don’t want models I can add to as I desire!

It’s much better if they’re covered in heraldry and shit I gotta shave off

[arctic talon]

ngl

some of the old minis were good imo

like really really good

[dusk patrol]

They’re good, it’s just people get so weird about it

[arctic talon]

imo anything after 6e is "modern" quality

[normal stream]

That's about when they switched to CAD from sculpting, wasn't it?

[arctic talon]

5e was when they swapped

late 5e rather

[normal stream]

Yeah, late 5e through 7e as the model lines got refreshed

[crystal forum]

a warhammer store employee was telling me how to paint eyes correctly and he tried using his eyes to show how to make a character look in a single direction but uh he had a lazy eye so it was hard not to make a joke about derpy models

[normal stream]

LMFAO

maybe not the best example to use

[charred jewel]

So like

with daemons

Daemons are suspectible to: Melee weapons, and flamers

like the worst weapon against daemons is las-weaponry, because you can't bless them or write aquillas over the guns to make them more emperor-religiousy

[dusk patrol]

Melee weapons and close up stuff works better, ranged weapons generally need special ammo or properties to be super effective but it’s not consistent

[charred jewel]

but like, with an autogun, you can bless the bullets/autogun itself

[dusk patrol]

But ranged stuff does work

[charred jewel]

I was taking a big wonder: Is a flamer, or is a melta gun better?

[dusk patrol]

Depends, flamer if it’s the special holy fire shit

[charred jewel]

In the flight of the einstein, didn't Nathaniel garro shoot like 4-5 magazines at a plaguebearer, but it dissipated once he used it combat knife?

[charred jewel]

So like, if its a regular un-blessed melta gun, and un-blessed flamer, which is better?

for, if you had perfect line of sight of a daemon, just blasting

[dusk patrol]

It’s not consistent because the rules daemons follow varies depending on a lot of stuff

Symbolism of the weapons, intent, how much juice they got, and so on

[charred jewel]

so like....theoretically, a blessed-bolter can out-do an unblessed flamer and melta?

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[charred jewel]

damn

[dusk patrol]

Or maybe it won’t

[median star]

so is malcador talked about at all by anyone in the current setting or and also even when he was alive was he even a public figure most ppl wouldve known about

[charred jewel]

I mean, a old man in medieval robes doesn't really seem like a figure you can do propaganda with

[median star]

id say old man in medieval robs is selling it lightly

[dusk patrol]

He was well known and still is

What he did behind the scenes wasn’t but he was known as the Regent of the Imperium and now as Malcador the Hero

How he died and his sacrifice is part of that whole mythologized end of the heresy which is well known

He was the Emperors second during all of Unification and the Great Crusade

[median star]

is their any group that specifically reveres him still or its just a oh he was a great guy the end

[charred jewel]

He has a tank named after him

[dusk patrol]

He’s just one of those mythologized figures, I imagine the inquisition reveres him still

But he’s like one of Jesus’s disciples kinda

He’s just know.

He’s a saint I believe too

[median star]

do the grey knights know about his specific involvement in their conception

[dusk patrol]

I believe so

[charred jewel]

the grey knights threw out the founding-grey knights gene-seed for an unknown origin one, right

[median star]

i believe theirs is derived straight from the emperor

[charred jewel]

I mean they probably didn't throw it out

Janus's geneseed must be in a refrigerator somewhere

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I think it’s outright stated to be in some sources

[crisp heath]

Can you win a ground war against the tyranids or is the game simply to make them waste as much resources as possible

[dusk patrol]

You can and it’s been done

It’s just very hard

Gotta get creative generally

Stuff like we see in Space Marine 2 are some of the more common methods to slow them down or get rid of swarms.

[queen laurel]

the best ways to take down their commanders and their orbital ships yeah

and also the high priority swarm buildings in the surface

[lapis verge]

Tbf as destructive and unending a Tyranid invasion is, their greatest weakness is their hive mind

[dusk patrol]

Beating them in the void is preferable yeah

[queen laurel]

But these things are again usually crawling with tyranids

[lapis verge]

Eliminate the main head, and the rest just crumple over

[dusk patrol]

And hive tyrants and swarm lords are huge points of weakness

Which why is Hive Guard exist

Earlier days the standard practice for marines was to deploy and hit their key synapse creatures

[queen laurel]

but really disabling the ships is the 100% best way to really crumple every single bio creature in the planet

[dusk patrol]

This has become harder as Nids have adapted and made them harder to kill or keeps them guarded better

[queen laurel]

it's mainly the ships that brings in spores and absorbs the nutrients anyway

[dusk patrol]

Also it used to be Nid fleets would have synapse ships too

[queen laurel]

but again easier said than done

[dusk patrol]

But they’ve evolved so every ship is one now

[lapis verge]

The easy way out is to usually Exterminatus the planet and deny them the biofuel

[dusk patrol]

That’s a common practice yeah

Bleed them as much as they can

[lapis verge]

Scorched earth tactics

Downside is you are probably expected to Exterminatus at least 3 or 4 to make an impact worth a damn

[queen laurel]

also disabling their Narvhal ships so that they can't warp jump

[dusk patrol]

That’s what Termination is, us destroying the capillary towers so the fleet can’t take advantage as much

Slowing down the fleets consumption of the world

[queen laurel]

I will admit though the new mission is definitely sick but it looks like that bio titan is absolutely annoyed at what your space marines are doing to the point that he will willingly bomb your position

it seems the hive particularly hates the group

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s basically trying to prevent you from controlling the cannons while it also has to keep the guard from advancing on it

It’s there to defend the capillary towers

[sacred ginkgo]

Whats the earliest edition with ogryns in it

[crystal forum]

your mom's birth certificate

[dusk patrol]

I think they were there from the start basically

[lapis verge]

Oh right I just realized

Do we actually have marine Space Marines

[crystal forum]

yes

[lapis verge]

Like Astartes specialized in water combat

[dusk patrol]

Space marines can fight underwater

Or on beaches and what not

[crystal forum]

they sink like rocks in armour lol

[lapis verge]

I know that

But is there any Chapter that specializes in underwater combat

Or at least amphibious combat

[dusk patrol]

Not really specifically

They just can

[lapis verge]

I just realized we don't get too many lore info on that that I'm aware of

[crystal forum]

there's those octopus guys dont remember the name

[lapis verge]

Dark Krakens?

[dusk patrol]

There’s some with water worlds

Like Void Tridents and Dark Krakens

[crystal forum]

the most water navy lore we got was like armageddon lol

consistent at least

water stuff happens in one off events sometimes

[dusk patrol]

There’s some amphibious craft and stuff but it doesn’t happen a lot

[crystal forum]

people often forget that space combat is just water but 3d

in 40k

[lapis verge]

Wait there's water on Armageddon?

I thought Armageddon is just Mad Max world but 40k

[dusk patrol]

There’s jungles on Armageddon

[crystal forum]

there's lava hell zone

it's a big planet

[dusk patrol]

Rare case of GW remembering that worlds have biomes