Not really a joke tbh, most like actually thinking
#40k-lore-chat
opaque coyote
dusk patrol
It would largely only work for terminators. Also the guy in question was an amateur, thats why it happened. They mention a big part of their training is being aware of if something can hold them or not.
forest orbit
Looney Toons their ass and place like 50 mines in the hole.
dusk patrol
It was his first deployment iirc.
opaque coyote
Like they need to mine through the entire thing
spring cairn
It would largely only work for terminators. Also the guy in question was an amat...
if the trap is camouflaged well enough it's foolproof
forest orbit
Marines can make mistakes yeah
opaque coyote
Make sure to have something important so that they just don't bomb the fortress btw
forest orbit
first deployment doesnt really mean too much
dusk patrol
Not really since they're looking for that stuff, it might work for like one marine.
forest orbit
And you cant really apply this logic to like
dusk patrol
first deployment doesnt really mean too much
It does when the point of the book is he wasn't paying attention like he was trained.
forest orbit
a galaxy-wide/encompassing fighting group with many different personalities/people that become astartes
forest orbit
It does when the point of the book is he wasn't paying attention like he was tra...
I mean okay but again, they are still pretty human
"No marine would make this mistake" is also a weird statement
Unless we are counting like a Chapter that is full on borg
dusk patrol
I didn't say they wouldn't, only that it would work maybe once, if that.
opaque coyote
I didn't say they wouldn't, only that it would work maybe once, if that.
So what if the entire fortress was like that tho
Cramped, flooring too weak from them to stand on
Each hallway unable to fit an SM
forest orbit
they'd just blow it up
dusk patrol
Theres also the issue of, whose making a whole fortress to be anti marine.
And how are they getting other heavy things around.
opaque coyote
they'd just blow it up
True. There is always that
leaden pilot
what book was that in lol
dusk patrol
One of the Dark Angel books
Its a Deathwing guy on his first deployment in terminator.
opaque coyote
And how are they getting other heavy things around.
Yeah true. You're gonna have to make a Marine sized area
dusk patrol
He gets razzled for it a lot during and after.
forest orbit
True. There is always that
Space marines are not undefeatable is the thing, you just kinda need to play smart and hit them hard, its head-on- engagement with them thats a bad idea.
its why the Taros campaign is one of my fav books
dusk patrol
Generally speaking you're better off just giving people meltas and hoping someone gets a lucky shot.
opaque coyote
You could make it so that there's only one SM sized path (somehow).
Fill it with traps and like you said
Give a bunch of people meltas/armor piercing equipment
Hope it works
forest orbit
Again you just kinda need to be a good trapper, their Halo spartan helmet HUD also picks stuff out
or when the plot finds it convenient anyway
dusk patrol
You don't really need ot get that complicated especially since its hard to set that up and most people aren't planning for marines.
Just set stuff to blow, use suicide bombers, give enough guys weapons which can kill marines.
forest orbit
The general tactic though is to just funnel them or just keep your distance overall like uh
arctic talon
The imperium doesn’t want you to know this
forest orbit
the Astartes animation does a good job with this
arctic talon
But industrial melta cutters can cut ceramite
opaque coyote
Just set stuff to blow, use suicide bombers, give enough guys weapons which can ...
I love how suicide bombers are a tactic lma
dusk patrol
Weight of fire, try to surprise them.
forest orbit
at least 2 marines should have died on their way to the psykers but its mostly just whatever
arctic talon
Ngl
forest orbit
i get why the creator did it
arctic talon
The multi laser
forest orbit
but surviving the multi-las fire was bad
opaque coyote
Jokes aside. Would Suicide Bomber Servitors work?
spring cairn
the multi las would've shredded that dude yeha
dusk patrol
Multilas is very survivable for a marine.
forest orbit
Yeah he'd be heavily injurd or dead at best
spring cairn
he wouldn't stand after it
forest orbit
He basically just takes in stride yeah
dusk patrol
He barely gets hit by it, if he had been farther down the hallway maybe.
arctic talon
That shit would be unpleasant
opaque coyote
Multilas is very survivable for a marine.
Yeah I think the Astartes animation literally had someone unload a Multi Las and the SM easily took them out
spring cairn
bro ate the whole volley
forest orbit
its plot armor for what they end up facing after
arctic talon
He barely gets hit by it, if he had been farther down the hallway maybe.
This is true
dusk patrol
Multilas is just basically a ton of lasguns hitting you at once
forest orbit
where they seem invincible until they get completely surprise-attacked by an unknown enemy
arctic talon
All the uh
forest orbit
so it works
dusk patrol
If it was a lascannon though.
opaque coyote
Who got mowed down
Probably absorbed alot of the hits tbh
dusk patrol
Thats different.
forest orbit
I mean yes
arctic talon
If it was a lascannon though.
opaque coyote
absorbing hits
Gotta love meatshields
forest orbit
I meant for Laati but yes 
dusk patrol
Ceramite is specifically good at absorbing las fire.
dusk patrol
Yeah if it hits joints or the eyes or you get enough shots in, neither of which happened.
forest orbit
lol
dusk patrol
The autocannon was the biggest threat they faced.
spring cairn
multi-las hit harder than hand held lasguns surely
forest orbit
Yeah it does
opaque coyote
Until it isnt
Watsonian wise, it's mainly because of flaws in the armor. You have to have either
A) Really good aim
B) Really good luck
C) Both
spring cairn
it's a mounted gun
forest orbit
Watsonian wise, it's mainly because of flaws in the armor. You have to have eith...
Its plot.
so its not worth thinking about it too much
we got examples of a chaos termi dying by taking a splinter fire round through the eye, its largely whatever lol
astartes have died to way sillier things
spring cairn
spear
forest orbit
KEK
dusk patrol
multi-las hit harder than hand held lasguns surely
They're not all created equal and generally they're depicted as being a very rapid fire lasgun, devasting for most infantry.
spring cairn
the one in the short is very big
dusk patrol
Its standard for a mounted gun.
forest orbit
The Multi-Laser is a rapid-fire heavy Laser Weapon, ideal for destroying lightly-armoured vehicles or infantry formations.
spring cairn
yes because it's quite powerful
opaque coyote
They also used what looks like an Auto cannon I think
forest orbit
The autocannon was mostly more understandable
since their pauldrons take the hit
the multi-las is dumber since he takes it all frontal
dusk patrol
The autocannon was the more dangerous gun.
opaque coyote
The autocannon was mostly more understandable
Yeah and the Marines immediately backed away and smoked
forest orbit
Yeah pretty much
opaque coyote
They were like "Oh shit'
forest orbit
they realised the threat and hid until their battle-bro took otu the gunner
dusk patrol
The point is they don't get much of a shot off with either before they react and deal with it.
forest orbit
opaque coyote
The Auto cannon guy right before he got plasma'd
dusk patrol
autocannon got shot with a bolter.
opaque coyote
"Damnit I knew I should've spent extra for the lascanno-"
dusk patrol
Multilas got plasmed
storm jungle
Okay im back from making tea, whats the argument this time
forest orbit
That one marine not getting melted to shit by multilas
opaque coyote
Can a Multi Las kill an SM
forest orbit
you can guess whos doing what lol
storm jungle
Can a Multi Las kill an SM
Uhh "it depends" but mostly yes.
dusk patrol
But the point is its very feasible for a short burst like that to work
storm jungle
Anyway im in way too much of a good mood to participate in this dumb thing.
dusk patrol
Just like it could kill if it hit the wrong places.
storm jungle
So uh you kids take care
dusk patrol
Not complex.
forest orbit
Cya dilara
opaque coyote
Lmao
Tbh judging by the fact that the Rebels seem to be fairly low budget from what we saw
Maybe the Multilas was just
Really fucking cheap
dusk patrol
Also it did just shoot through a bunch of mooks.
forest orbit
Tbh judging by the fact that the Rebels seem to be fairly low budget from what w...
Id say semi low budget but yea
dusk patrol
Ceramite is specifically designed to dampened heat weapons like that also.
opaque coyote
Id say semi low budget but yea
Yeah so maybe that Multilas was just
spring cairn
they used good tactics
opaque coyote
A really shitty one
spring cairn
the opponents were made of mariniums sadly
forest orbit
the opponents were made of mariniums sadly
Alas yeah
but you gotta give us space marine fans credit
we can just argue for an hour about the scientific "akshually"s behind everything
opaque coyote
Convenient
"So, should we buy the premium Lascannons, or the MultiLas?"
"idk man, the Lascannons seem expensive"
"alright multiLas it is"
forest orbit
Accurate.
speaking of dying in droves i should go play the new SM2 update
that new difficulty looks
that and i just noticed the time i gotta go to bed for work in 2 hours
opaque coyote
https://tenor.com/view/gamer-gif-20482851
Gaming
dusk patrol
that new difficulty looks
I've been enjoying it
dusk patrol
Yeah hopefully next weeks patch will fix that
Got my fucked up helmet and sword at least.
People on reddit also think its too hard and that also makes me happy.
spring cairn
rings any bell
forest orbit
where are my decals
You'll get your decals WHEN YOU FIX THIS DAMN GAME
dusk patrol
rings any bell
Mfw people say its "just like Helldivers 2" and I agreed but for different reasons.
spring cairn
the different reason is that u don't give a shit about hd2 no offense
dusk patrol
"Yes there is also garbage casuals in this community who can't stand that they can't hang on the maxed out difficulty too."
dusk patrol
the different reason is that u don't give a shit about hd2 no offense
I have 160 hours in it, and have been playing it more recently again.
spring cairn
they're weakening the enemies every patch
dusk patrol
Yup, its very silly.
dusk patrol
I just hope Saber aren't bitches about it and stick to their guns at least with lethal.
People on reddit crying that "I keep dying on average" like mfer why are you admitting that.
"Its not hard its just annoying!"
spring cairn
there's plenty of guns and shit that need balancing
but the enemies don't need to get weaker
dusk patrol
Yeah, theres a lot that needs to be fixed, hopefully next week will be buffs for most of those.
dusk patrol
I don't really love the coherency thing but its not that bad at all.
spring cairn
i agree some chaff units could be squishier for sure
dusk patrol
Very easy to play around if your team isn't dumb as hell.
spring cairn
they're chaff after all
opaque coyote
Does SM2 have the ability to use an Autocannon
opaque coyote
dusk patrol
Largely I think most weapons should be one shotting or two shotting chaff.
Majoris and others I think are fine.
languid meadow
lord above please buff bolters
spring cairn
yep
opaque coyote
Alright
spring cairn
i hope gamedevs will look at hd2 and learn that u shouldn't do game balancing by sorting ur game's reddit by top of all time
spring cairn
because latest patch they made it so hunters can only attack you 1 at a time
dusk patrol
Its Ogryn proof too iirc?
spring cairn
i kid you not
dusk patrol
Therefore
We should have an Autocannon as an Ogyrn weapon
I think that and heavy bolter eventually would be nice yes.
dusk patrol
because latest patch they made it so hunters can only attack you 1 at a time
I think whats more annoying is their insistence on enemy behavior being the exact same largely through all difficullties.
opaque coyote
I think that and heavy bolter eventually would be nice yes.
Add attachments to it for giggles
Add a fucking scope to the Autocannon
dusk patrol
Just make it so like 9-10 have harder enemies.
languid meadow
because latest patch they made it so hunters can only attack you 1 at a time
fuck those little bastards, my only problem with them is that they're more numerous than warriors still
spring cairn
fuck those little bastards, my only problem with them is that they're more numer...
yeah they're chaff
dusk patrol
Add attachments to it for giggles
Add a fucking scope to the Autocannon
<:KEK...
You could
languid meadow
yeah I understand that but warriors are just cooler
spring cairn
i'd like warriors if they weren't as fast as a grandma in a wheelchair
languid meadow
yeah their speed should be buffed
spring cairn
actually the wheelchair might be faster forget it
dusk patrol
I do like them making weapons much stronger and everything being viable but nerfing enemies too is just ugh.
spring cairn
the bugs rn are like
ooh amma get you
amma get you
and they just waddle at ya for 10 minutes
dusk patrol
Like the new autocannon is fun, smart ammo is really cool.
languid meadow
woe silent charger upon you
dusk patrol
the bugs rn are like
I mostly do bots tbh, it feels more fun.
dusk patrol
Hopefully the Illuminate are fun.
languid meadow
since they fixed bots respecting cover finally they're enjoyable to fight against now
spring cairn
they will be for 1 patch, then next patch reddit will have them neuteured
dusk patrol
Yeah thats the annoying thing, I don't dislike a lot of the changes but it also doesn't ALWAYS need to be just nerfing enemies and buffing us.
Idk, we'll see.
spring cairn
just like whenever i argue with a mofo that max diff should be challenging and they say "but they'll just add more difficulties bah"
they did
diff 10
and u bitches got it shot
dusk patrol
And then people cried they couldn't do it
dusk patrol
Thats my thing, all these shitters are always mad they can't do max content
And its never their fault
Its always the game
dusk patrol
SM2 is having the same thing "Lethal is too hard, its not fun, the coherency makes it bad, you can't play vanguard/sniper/assault"
arctic talon
the only time I don't have fun with bots
is when I drop next to two gunship spawners
spring cairn
because in pve ur fighting the game not players, so it can't be YOUR fault, it's either game is broken or devs are idiots
arctic talon
in which that case I am getting cooked
arctic talon
I literally cleared lethal with Van + sniper + bulwark lol
dusk patrol
Assault I'll agreed has some issues but you can still do it.
spring cairn
my face when i just spam ground pounds
languid meadow
SM2 is having the same thing "Lethal is too hard, its not fun, the coherency mak...
assault is only bad when the jetpack says go fuck yourself
spring cairn
yeah
languid meadow
please just fix the pack
spring cairn
that's annoying as hell
dusk patrol
Its not with Lethal that I'm actually incentived to think about my loadout and my team comp a little bit.
spring cairn
more people need the I'm bad at the game mindset
yes
gamer's ego peaked as of recently
they canno't reflect on themselves
dusk patrol
more people need the I'm bad at the game mindset
I feel like a boomer but gamers and kids these days are WAAAY too fucking entitled.
spring cairn
so they blamed the beasts or something
arctic talon
so they blamed the beasts or something
spring cairn
dusk patrol
arctic talon
Like I dont get where this came from
gamer gate
spring cairn
it's like when i play deadlock
arctic talon
I'm only half joking
languid meadow
arctic talon
literally why I never get mad at League or Dota 2
lol
I accepted that I'm bad
therfore
I will play the best I can
dusk patrol
My favorite post on reddit was someone saying "I beat Decapitation on Lethal solo on Assault, this somehow proves my point that Lethal is too hard"
Like, what?
Do you think its balanced around one dude on assault rn?
Do you realize that if you can beat it solo with arguably the worst class for that, it might actually not be that bad?
Termination definitely gets pretty dicey, but its fun for that.
shut rune
Yall see that the 40k show was canceled?
dusk patrol
Yeah cause Henry hates female Custodes right?
languid meadow
I don't mind the spawn rates/ammo thing but the tether is just annoying (randoms have the collective IQ of 20)
opaque coyote
dusk patrol
And the woke mob
shut rune
Something like that I think yeah
dusk patrol
Yeah interesting
arctic talon
or is it 4 chan
spring cairn
I don't mind the spawn rates/ammo thing but the tether is just annoying (randoms...
just need time for pubbies to get used to it
opaque coyote
arctic talon
opaque coyote
Oh hi Elite
dusk patrol
Nah it was in mine
It can be both
shut rune
Its in your ass
Why so aggressive? You didn't even give me a chance to answer
languid meadow
dusk patrol
Why so aggressive? You didn't even give me a chance to answer
Because youre wrong and its a boring topic
spring cairn
at least with liberator gold being a primary color i could make the BA veteran i wanted
languid meadow
I searched it up and the only thing I could find is an article from July saying it was delayed due to amazon and GW having not finalized their agreement
dusk patrol
I will say the real issue people should have is them fucking with the colors and decals so much.
opaque coyote
Because youre wrong and its a boring topic
"Cavill’s Warhammer 40K TV show is not canceled. The series is facing major delays due to Amazon Studios and Games Workshop’s unfinalized crucial agreement."
dusk patrol
THAT should be where the rage is coming from.
dusk patrol
"Cavill’s Warhammer 40K TV show is not canceled. The series is facing major dela...
Basically
spring cairn
I will say the real issue people should have is them fucking with the colors and...
i had to re-do everything
dusk patrol
Iirc by december we'll know
languid meadow
Still waiting for the ability to put decals on the right pauldron
dusk patrol
i had to re-do everything
Yeah I like some of the changes but man
Its slightly annoying.
dusk patrol
Still waiting for the ability to put decals on the right pauldron
Also this
dusk patrol
Hopefully that and eye lenses will be next week.
spring cairn
In reality it isn't due to Henry or anything
we don't know fuckall
dusk patrol
In reality it isn't due to Henry or anything
Henry also is like, a figurehead
spring cairn
i think
dusk patrol
He's not gonna change it either way, and I doubt he's gonna bail on his dream role because 40K GONE WOKE
shut rune
My bad yall, I read a title of a YouTube video. Guess I got caught up in misinformation
dusk patrol
WOMEN?! IN MY CUSTODES?
opaque coyote
Henry also is like, a figurehead
I feel bad for him with the Witcher show
dusk patrol
My bad yall, I read a title of a YouTube video. Guess I got caught up in misinfo...
Sorry for being overly hostile, we just get some uh
People
"People"
opaque coyote
My bad yall, I read a title of a YouTube video. Guess I got caught up in misinfo...
No worries mate
It happens to the best of us
dusk patrol
Who join and try to start lame culture war bullshit conversations over it and its so overdone.
opaque coyote
Just be careful and do your research
languid meadow
YT vids are bad for info on these things due to grifters 
too much shit to sift through
dusk patrol
Youtube is only good for pointless internet drama recaps.
arctic talon
“Custodes are a type of space marine”
opaque coyote
Youtube is only good for pointless internet drama recaps.
And also funny video
arctic talon
dusk patrol
“Custodes are a type of space marine”
Ackshually you can't do female custodes because of their geneseed
Only works on men
arctic talon
languid meadow
arctic talon
LOL
dusk patrol
arctic talon
I’m stealing that
opaque coyote
Fallout
If there is one thing I really want from the classic games
It's the deaths
The death animations are simply spectacular
spring cairn
Culture war grifters are literally the worst
it's free money
arctic talon
My morals are not nearly weak enough
dusk patrol
I would do that in a heartbeat.
arctic talon
lol
spring cairn
i think now there's maybe too many
dusk patrol
My morals can be bought, and for a very cheap price.
dusk patrol
i think now there's maybe too many
Yeah I missed the bag
spring cairn
but before it was very easy to build an audience
dusk patrol
dusk patrol
The real money ticket
dusk patrol
Would be make a anti-woke channel and a woke channel
And make competing videos of each.
arctic talon
I’m playing both sides so I always come out on top
dusk patrol
Infinite money hack.
spring cairn
but it also lead to peak content
like that woke games list that i still can't decide if it's parody or not
because of how fucking stupid it is
carmine harness
It's dead serious
dusk patrol
I don't care what revolution happens, so long as we kill the youtube video essasyists first.
spring cairn
even the bald guy
dusk patrol
Anime character ones go first.
spring cairn
what's his name
dusk patrol
even the bald guy
We're already gonna kill all b*ld people.
spring cairn
he wasn't bald before
languid meadow
tim pool?
languid meadow
that's the only bald(ing) guy I can think off
dusk patrol
Is he bald?
languid meadow
yeah he went bald
spring cairn
he makes peak
dusk patrol
SOOOO many hours of videos on Mariokart community drama and shit.
carmine harness
HBG is the agent 47 of youtubers
languid meadow
some of my fav drama vids are speedrunning cheating scandals
the lengths people will go just to be put on a scoreboard is amazing
arctic talon
spring cairn
i used to follow dramas and let's just say, laughing stocks of certain "communities" but i don't anymore
languid meadow
lolcows are the only thing I don't follow
dusk patrol
Modern day freakshow, some of them do get depressing.
languid meadow
makes me feel gross knowing about them
dusk patrol
But yeah so many of these people are just
spring cairn
i know of a lolcow cheating drama
dusk patrol
Disgusting inviduals.
dusk patrol
Does not shock me
The ones which are a bit too real and have real crimes aren't as fun
spring cairn
well it probably had some kind of illegal actions
languid meadow
My only hope is that these people get professional help
spring cairn
it wasn't the one you're thinking of p sure that guy went to jail
opaque coyote
Honestly is there like
An excerpt about how an inquistor feels after an exterminatus
Like an Inquistor is forced to call one on a planet
and then afterwards, they're in the bar
Drinking desperately to try and numb what they've done
Even in the morally bankrupt culture of the Imperium
That kind of shit would eat away at a person
I can easily imagine an Inquistior having a breakdown after ordering their first one
jade holly
How broken are our rejects lore wise?
Given we can no diff BoNs, Chaos Spawns, Plague Ogryns, DHosts
arctic talon
Big named character energy
Jokes aside the hordes we fight in game
Aren’t lore accurate
Or else the Moebian sixth would be extinct lol
shell mason
trying to figure out what game I should play
spring cairn
move aside Calgar, BallsGobblerTheToothd36 is here with his knife and revolver
opaque coyote
move aside Calgar, BallsGobblerTheToothd36 is here with his knife and revolver
I love how this applies to SM2
The teammates you play with are canonically Ultramarines
So
shell mason
.....
opaque coyote
"Don't worry, SexWithSlaa69 is the bestest Marine. He will save us all!"
shell mason
wonder if i can load my old Arkham knight save
jade holly
Does 40k happen to have a living black hole that throws hands with people?
shell mason
When he Arkham on my knight
Die
opaque coyote
Does 40k happen to have a living black hole that throws hands with people?
I think the only thing closest to that are C'Tan
But besides that uhh
Nah
jade holly
So you’re telling me the Traveler from Remnant 2 has fought something space marines haven’t
shell mason
So you’re telling me the Traveler from Remnant 2 has fought something space mari...
most likely the war in heaven was crazy
jade holly
most likely the war in heaven was crazy
If you haven’t watched it yet check out the Alepsis Taura fight in Remnant 2 it’s sick
shell mason
If you haven’t watched it yet check out the Alepsis Taura fight in Remnant 2 it’...
Ik i have the game and season pass
oh
OH SHIT IT STILL HAS MY SAVE
jade holly
shell mason
14 February 2018
opaque coyote
So you’re telling me the Traveler from Remnant 2 has fought something space mari...
I mean tbf the C'tan are basically living Stars that throw hands with people
jade holly
Remnant 2 had no reason to go as hard as it does
jade holly
Gunfire Games didn’t do Fable I don’t think
jade holly
GFG did the Darksiders games
shell mason
Genesis was the strife game
jade holly
It was the War Strife buddy cop game
opaque coyote
opaque coyote
ive been completely obsessed with The Gentleman Ghost today
His designs are pretty cool in general
I think my favorite iterations of him are either
A) Brave and the Bold
B) Caped Crusader
rose thorn
I think my favorite iterations of him are either
thats liek his only ones too lmao
every scene he is ever in he fucking SLAYS
charred jewel
every scene he is ever in he fucking SLAYS
Yo, with arbites exaction squads:
so I get an excruciator maul. Is just a painful shock maul. But repression mauls. Is that just the funny name arbites have for power mauls
So like: a suppression shield is shock, a shock maul, is, well, shock. But the assault shield is….power? Like those Horus heresy marines with combat-shields stuck to their arms?
And a dominator maul
normal stream
I mean, Sisters of Battle have a Repressor tank
charred jewel
Is a dominator maul like their fancy word for a master-craft power maul?
opaque coyote
queen laurel
Is a dominator maul like their fancy word for a master-craft power maul?
no master-craft is a term for weapons custom made to be like special
normal stream
Or.. just.. crafted... by a master
queen laurel
dominator maul is just a type of maul
queen laurel
Or.. just.. crafted... by a master <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Fuck you
normal stream
rose thorn
Yo, with arbites exaction squads:
so I get an excruciator maul. Is just a painf...
i suppose so? in necromunda they are called shock batons and shock staves, let me check the venators list too
charred jewel
dominator maul is just a type of maul
Okay…so repression mauls. And the dominator maul. Are power-type weapons?
charred jewel
i suppose so? in necromunda they are called shock batons and shock staves, let m...
Yeah but those are palanite enforcers. I imagine besides the very top no ones rocking power weapons around
queen laurel
Okay…so repression mauls. And the dominator maul. Are power-type weapons?
yes they are a type of Power maul
charred jewel
yes they are a type of Power maul
What’s the difference between a repression maul and a dominator maul?
normal stream
GW just decided to give them different names so that they could have different stats.
That's basically it.
charred jewel
That's basically it.
That is unbelievably lame
Unbelievably lame. I hate this. Cancel kill-team now for disrupting my power-tier listing autism
queen laurel
That is unbelievably lame
this is GW
normal stream
Not everything needs to be unbelievably complex
rose thorn
okay, the shock mauls are meant to shock
the dominator (?) is meant to be a punishment
what ever our friedn is holding
it is meant to inflict max pain
normal stream
In lore, that used to be called "low power setting" and "high power setting"
charred jewel
Not everything needs to be unbelievably complex <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163...
NO! An increasing list of sergeants and super sergeants and Lieutenants. And Lieutenant mark 6s to general lord militant first company captains MUST have a +1 series of special weapons with 10 page lore behind each item!
charred jewel
what ever our friedn is holding
Isn’t that the excruciator maul
charred jewel
charred jewel
…man that is just a baton
rose thorn
nuh uh its a repression baton!!
charred jewel
Where’s the energy-bits
normal stream
rose thorn
normal stream
It's.. repressed.
rose thorn
Billy clubs still exist in the year 40 thousand
charred jewel
Killteam and its consequences have been a disaster for the 40K hyper-pedantic fandom
arctic talon
Turns off bodycam
dusk patrol
Yeah its much beefier
arctic talon
Getting hit with it hurts
dusk patrol
More killy
rose thorn
"I am God's Greatest warrior'
charred jewel
I’m going to go with: this is like how primaris have a bolt pistol. And then a heavy bolt pistol
arctic talon
Now granted you’ll need to get the melee through
charred jewel
…I don’t like it for melee weapons
charred jewel
Because heavy should mean 2 hands
rose thorn
HHAHAH
charred jewel
And as dark tide established, they’re called crushers
normal stream
HAHAHAHAHAHA
arctic talon
Not normal marines though
normal stream
I mean
queen laurel
Can arrest scouts
BAHAHAHA
arctic talon
Too many wounds
It works off of starting wounds
And marines have too many
Would be funny if it was current wounds though
normal stream
If you want to see "pointlessly redundant" as weapons - look at how many variants of volkites there are, mostly in 30k, that are "largely the same"
rose thorn
Cyrus getting arrested on the hood of a cop car
arctic talon
Therfore you can arrest the broodlord
queen laurel
Too many wounds
i was about to say
you can't use police brutality a little bit to make them easier to catch?
normal stream
Police Brutality is a built-in arbites rule
arctic talon
It should work off of current wounds imo
arctic talon
It wouldn’t even be that strong it would just be funny
rose thorn
if you are a veteran
rose thorn
HE SERVED IN TEH DEATHWATCH
arctic talon
To go teach the youngings
normal stream
what elitewolf said
arctic talon
Yea
rose thorn
ohhh
normal stream
The sergeants are usually full marines
rose thorn
wiat so hes just a space marine?
charred jewel
If you want to see "pointlessly redundant" as weapons - look at how many variant...
I cannot tell the difference between a charger and a calavlier
normal stream
Yeah, in TT this used to be represented by a better statline over the normal scouts
rose thorn
soryr their minis were so old before ii coudlnt tell
normal stream
(besides just +1 attack I think)
rose thorn
i shoudl have been able to tell lmao
normal stream
DUDE HAS A BEARDDD
normal stream
AND A SERVICE STUD
arctic talon
so the difference didn't exist anymore
rose thorn
lmao
arctic talon
other then the standard sgt. +1 attack
dusk patrol
AND A SERVICE STUD
Dudes the oldest ultramarine or one of
rose thorn
i shoudl have been able to tell lmao
last time i checked this guy had rules btw
dusk patrol
Yeah he still should
dusk patrol
Veteran Sgt Tellion
rose thorn
he had rules in the beginning of 10th emperor bless his soul
arctic talon
bro will turn your Scouts into men
normal stream
Dudes the oldest ultramarine or one of
I'm making fun of Mag for not seeing them on the model
I know that's Tellion lol
arctic talon
Tellion is great
charred jewel
They have nonstop barrages of stormtrooper-grenadier squads with full hotshot-volley guns, and chainsword-bolt pistol troops led by plasma pistol-power sword sergeants
In the first mission of chaos rising
normal stream
Tellion used to be a must-bring for MSU lists, I can't remember why
rose thorn
bro will turn your Scouts into men
💀 HOLY SHIT
dusk patrol
I'm making fun of Mag for not seeing them on the model
Makes sense
But yes he has
Wild rules
arctic talon
Tellion used to be a must-bring for MSU lists, I can't remember why
He gave scouts objective secured + reroll hits
normal stream
Oh right, that's why
arctic talon
So he was kind of fucking deranged
lol
because you'd just run a bunch of sniper scouts
charred jewel
I hope next month they release 40K mini for the free item of the month
charred jewel
I’m going to get 10+ friends to continuously get their “free item of the month” and give them all to me 😈
arctic talon
idk Tellion being legends is unfortunate for comp players
arctic talon
but like
normal stream
Yeah, and the snap shot penalty was offset by the Tellion re-roll buff
rose thorn
i beg
normal stream
Because rhino disembark MM to the face
arctic talon
is the funny thing
rose thorn
this would be so funny
normal stream
arctic talon
idk
normal stream
I remember losing a land raider to that
rose thorn
me too
normal stream
I'm just sad that they got rid of most of Forge World.
arctic talon
yeah
its unfortunate
but FW has been getting purged
repeatedly since 7e
well
6e I guess
rip D99
normal stream
Rip my elysians
arctic talon
Elysians got killed in 7e no?
normal stream
Whenever they got rid of FW and the FW books
Model range was killed off 2 years ago, with the last? model exiting last year IIRC (vulture gunships)
arctic talon
I mean yeah
normal stream
and a pain in the fucking ass to carry around
arctic talon
just not in killteam please don't add another fucking flying team
normal stream
Showing up with 8 flyers was peak funny though
arctic talon
Harlequins, Hierotek, Vespids and Aquillons are all horrifying
in their own way lol
also harlequins having fly in killteam
is funny as shit
arctic talon
Showing up with 8 flyers was peak funny though
me seeing the Eldar flyer spam list fight the stupid fucking 20 free Razorback army
arctic talon
fucking grav tanks getting Fly was stupid
Thank god GW realized that was a horrible mistake
LOL
normal stream
Seriously
Flyers were intentionally squishy and not well armed to make up for having Fly
Suddenly grav tanks with ground vehicle durability, PLUS holofields, AND Fly, with heavy weapons
queen laurel
also harlequins having fly in killteam
lore wise are they like the strongest kill team then
normal stream
lore wise are they like the strongest kill team then
There isn't really a "lore wise" and "kill team" since in lore these things aren't really enforced...
queen laurel
There isn't really a "lore wise" and "kill team" since in lore these things aren...
just like taking what's established on lore and seeing how ridiculous they are
normal stream
Like, the warp gods don't shake their fists at combatants saying "NO YOU CAN'T BRING ANOTHER GUY!" "NO YOU CAN ONLY HAVE TWO GUNNERS MAX"
An additional body or a body less in KT can make a team stronger/weaker than another team
so in lore, it's really down to a) how many dudes/dudettes show up b) armed with what and c) how experienced
the KT game format enforces rules on how many people you can bring and what you can give them just for the sake of balance
queen laurel
the KT game format enforces rules on how many people you can bring and what you ...
I mean they are just squads of specialists
I'm just saying taking what you can see on each squad what's like the most ridiculous one that can get the most damage or do the best
normal stream
I mean. A 10-man veteran guardsman squad all toting meltas...
I wouldn't read too much into the lore based on game formats
winter vessel
Melta guns are the equivalent of opening and closing a functioning microwave door in front of someone on full power, that doesn’t need to be hooked up to a power outlet
arctic talon
the team thats the killiest
is prolly legionaries
by far lol
You get a lot of good melee
queen laurel
prolly tied with custodes
oh yeah wolf humans are better friends with dwarves than elves in old world right
opaque coyote
I mean. A 10-man veteran guardsman squad all toting meltas...
how to destroy a baneblade 101
spam melta
arctic talon
oh yeah wolf humans are better friends with dwarves than elves in old world righ...
about even
sacred ginkgo
spam melta
Thinking you're hot shit in your super tank when you see your gunner start melting
arctic talon
Elves literally founded the Colleges of Magic
and the dwarves taught humans how to make gunpowder
queen laurel
Elves literally founded the Colleges of Magic
same in AOS i assume but even better
queen laurel
no clue on AoS's magic colleges
no i mean the relationship of being allies
arctic talon
yeah then better
queen laurel
like you did say that in AOS everyone is less racist
At least even on like some outstretched town find an elf
normal stream
how to destroy a baneblade 101
How to destroy anything 101
normal stream
I've seen a Warhound get slagged by a bunch of deepstrike deploying guardsmen with meltas
opaque coyote
I've seen a Warhound get slagged by a bunch of deepstrike deploying guardsmen wi...
do like
giant meltas exist
like
a titan with just a giant melta
sacred ginkgo
I think they get new names at that scale
sacred ginkgo
I thought they got silly names like inferno or something
normal stream
Which is funny because something like magna melta and melta lance are cooler
normal stream
I thought they got silly names like inferno or something
Inferno gun? That's an effing big flamer
Not to be confused with the inferno pistol, which is a melta pistol
sacred ginkgo
We love dumbass naming conventions
normal stream
YUP
sacred ginkgo
I feel as though I should know this considering where I work but whatever
normal stream
Meh, I'm used to going to Warhammer World in Nottingham and knowing more than the staff working there
normal stream
A lot of them at the time were pretty knowledgeable, actually! (late 2000s, early 2010s era)
I actually caught Phil Kelly walking around one time and had a good chat with him about the Eldar? I think? dex, got him to autograph it
jade holly
Can Admech followers go insane by having too many bionics?
queen laurel
Can Admech followers go insane by having too many bionics?
nope
If it comes down to having too much memory and stuff they have machinery for that too
they either store their memory somewhere or completely delete it
And their entire religion literally revolves around being machine they are practically trained for it
jade holly
Well there goes that gameplay idea
lapis verge
Just look at Cawl
He looks more like a bionic centipede than a man
jade holly
Can malfunctions in their bionics occur?
queen laurel
Can malfunctions in their bionics occur?
yes
jade holly
Fuck it the melee archetype is now Krieg
lapis verge
Can malfunctions in their bionics occur?
Yes
But thats usually dealt with by Techpriests and the like
Moreso if the Techpriest's bionics begin to act up, just fix it urself
jade holly
Increased chance of smacking yourself in the face via malfunction
Lmao
I just mad percussive maintenance into a gameplay mechanic
When you smack yourself on accident you replenish toughness
normal stream
"VOLCANO"
That's non-melta weapon though
(It's laser-based)
Fun fact about volcano cannons, there's old lore that says that they're basically imbued with the energy of dead heretic psykers, a required part of making it so destructive
keen nova
Anyone else think that Konrad would have bodied Corvus?
storm jungle
Whoever the author wanted to would win. They are basically the same character lol
shell mason
Anyone else think that Konrad would have bodied Corvus?
they fought
keen nova
they fought
Yeah but corvus ran.
shell mason
Cause it was turning into a jumping
keen nova
Cause it was turning into a jumping
Logar was almost dead
shell mason
Skill issue
keen nova
Corvus made the right choice, konrad would have killed him
keen nova
you don't know that
Yeah but it's funnier this way
shell mason
storm jungle
Logar was almost dead
Pretty much was not worth the risk.
Live to fight another day is better than "rush and get jumped like a moron"
shell mason
wasn't dirty perty
keen nova
you don't know that
That last bit, maybe he saw his win in a vision?
shell mason
That last bit, maybe he saw his win in a vision?
alot of Corvus visions were trolling
like the kid and the knife
keen nova
like the kid and the knife
Ebic
shell mason
keen nova
Were there any primarchs that logar got long with?
Particularly well with? I kinda have a soft spot for him and his legion. (Yes it started with dark crusade)
viral halo
Sharpe is peak
keen nova
Sharpe is peak
Like the show? Sharpes rifles?
jade holly
I just heard a guy on the Mourningstar flat out a mention a cult running around
Please FS give me GSC to fight
queen laurel
Die.
Dilara day 1 billion and 654 just proceeding to kill someone who wants GSC in darktide
celest dome
I'm willing to give an alibi.
storm jungle
lmfao
rocky gale
It's too woke for Dilara
viral halo
The lore primer is pretty dope
I am intrigued by it
The community is exactly what you would expect out of a grimdark horror tabletop RPG focused on religious themes
celest dome
I quite like WW1 settings, but Trench Crusade seem quite difficult to understand.
Konflict 47 (WW2), World War Chuthulu (WW2) or Sycthe (WW1) are things that I prefer
raven stone
green loom
Oh ya that's old news
storm jungle
Yeah thats pretty dated but checks out
the reality is its just too set in stone to change + things regarding molds which are pretty realistic as far as excuses go.
which is a good explanation and its fine
rocky gale
outer wave
Sigh I can't believe women exist....
rocky gale
Wargamers really be like “ w-w-w-women?!??!”
Fandoms don't change, saw a post earlier that was showing screenshots from a LOTR forum following the release of the Peter Jackson movies and it was a bunch of people complaining about how they'd ruined Tolkein's vision by adding in feminism and making it PC
queen laurel
Fandoms don't change, saw a post earlier that was showing screenshots from a LOT...
Humans will be humans they say
rocky gale
Like basically exact same way people are now saying about Rings of Power
queen laurel
It's like complaining about this or that nowadays it's has got into the point where it's just better to try ignore them
jade holly
Like basically exact same way people are now saying about Rings of Power
Tbf that one did ruin that one elf chick that was really cool in the movies
I’m blanking on her name
celest dome
Galadriel ?
vast crystal
Fandoms don't change, saw a post earlier that was showing screenshots from a LOT...
Me when the adaptation changes things [something something evil cannot create something something]
vast crystal
which is a good explanation and its fine
Idk if you should just put your arms up and just go "it's fine" when something i assume you want isn't done
The world would be better if there where more belidruant bitches making demands
tough haven
Tbf that one did ruin that one elf chick that was really cool in the movies
How so?
vast crystal
They might not have strong opinions on it
Fair. But more people should
arctic talon
Idk
rose thorn
man makes: a sledge hammer with an eagle on it
arctic talon
Of all the things for me to have strong opinions on
There’s more important stuff then my favorite wargame
Imo
normal stream
man makes: a sledge hammer with an eagle on it
I'd be more impressed if he created the power field
arctic talon
LOL
vast crystal
Of all the things for me to have strong opinions on
I don't mean specifically on FSM I mean in general elite
normal stream
Dude would be able to go from youtuber -> DOD contractor lmfao
arctic talon
I guess
vast crystal
warhammer 40k content is so bad right now lmao
Official or fan?
rose thorn
mianly youtubers
official is good, its jsut that my 2 favorite armies are the worst in the game lmao
arctic talon
Official content is good/secent as usual
arctic talon
official is good, its jsut that my 2 favorite armies are the worst in the game l...
L
Gsc
rose thorn
fr
arctic talon
And flesheaters
vast crystal
That's what happens when GW cracks down on fan content. Everyone realized it wasn't worth it
rose thorn
JHHUHUUHAH yeah but 'bad' in AOS means you win like 35% of the time
arctic talon
That's what happens when GW cracks down on fan content. Everyone realized it was...
The shitty low effort content existed before that
rose thorn
bad in 40k means you can barely score points
arctic talon
There’s just more of them now
normal stream
The shitty low effort content existed before that
yeah but now it's being signal boosted
vast crystal
The shitty low effort content existed before that
But now the good shit is less prevalent
arctic talon
bad in 40k means you can barely score points
We don’t have faction specific secondaries anymore
Thank fuck
rose thorn
fr lmao
vast crystal
So basically the only thing you see now is AI slop
jade holly
Galadriel ?
Yeah her
vast crystal
Or lore vids
arctic talon
There’s like
vast crystal
Nothing of worth basically
arctic talon
3 lore YouTubers I can recommend
rose thorn
Ngl I don’t interact with 40k YouTube
thats for the better, theres only liek 3 people who acitvely do 40k stuff i care about
vast crystal
3 lore YouTubers I can recommend
Lutrin09 i assume is one of them?
arctic talon
Yeah
normal stream
@arctic talon drop your suggestions? I usually have people asking me for lore youtubers and I'm like, "go read the lore books man"
rose thorn
pete, poorhammer, uhh, third one i forgot
vast crystal
Mr bones and pancreas no work are cool
normal stream
ty
vast crystal
<@255478624851853312> drop your suggestions? I usually have people asking me for...
Simply open the lexacanum and read to your hearts content
(Alternatively 1d6chan)
normal stream
All 3 of them are very accurate
Your lore is on point, so I trust your recs
arctic talon
(Alternatively 1d6chan)
Die
tough haven
bad in 40k means you can barely score points
Just play for funsies I play admech and they’re considered quite bad and I love them
rose thorn
Mr bones and pancreas no work are cool
mr bones complains too much for me, and pancreas i ahvent watched in a while
arctic talon
Their army is like
normal stream
1d6chan unironically had the BEST elysians strategy/tactics guide out there for YEARS
vast crystal
mr bones complains too much for me, and pancreas i ahvent watched in a while
Me when a fan is critical of what the like
tough haven
Simply open the lexacanum and read to your hearts content
I’m a xenos fan, so every lexicanum page has 1-3 paragraphs and that’s it lol
normal stream
Look for the source material, and then read those books @tough haven
arctic talon
tough haven
Nah I’m a orks/necrons fan
rose thorn
Admech aren’t bad
my partner won a torment wiht them lmao
arctic talon
W
tough haven
Look for the source material, and then read those books <@260893164619956225>
I’ve read each and every xenos book
rose thorn
1k point local but still
arctic talon
But that person goes to GT’s
tough haven
Admech aren’t bad
If you use very specific strategies, detatchments and units yeah
arctic talon
So I’m not mad
arctic talon
If you use very specific strategies, detatchments and units yeah
Literally anything but explorator is viable
arctic talon
what army?
Admech
tough haven
Most of its units and detatchments aren’t great
arctic talon
I was running rad cohort