Gl. Homebrew chapters are always fun from lore to paint scheme’s.
#40k-lore-chat
fickle wyvern
crisp heath
i will brew my own order militant
their special thing is that they have WHITE armour and they´re also all MEDICS
!!!!!!
and i will call it
i will call it
Order of The Radiant Angel
!
oh and they all have jump packs too for wings
their only weakness? there´s never enough of them 😔
crisp heath
i will draft a preliminary lore piece today or this weekend if i manage to fulfill all my other duties first
oh i am excited now
queen laurel
glimmerin
queen laurel
How would an ork say glimmering?
most of time they wouldn't even say that just Sparky
queen laurel
and shini
rose thorn
I’m trying to name my clan something like
Da shining gob clan
Or something that means golden teeth
queen laurel
Da shining gob clan
The Sparkly gob Clan
rose thorn
Da glimmirin gob clan
queen laurel
Da glimmirin gob clan
that works
queen laurel
The shinie boyz
Da Sparkle Toofz
rose thorn
That’s pretty good
A clan of kruleboyz who kidnap people and use their alchemical venom to transform their victims into iron pyrite. The clan it self believes this is actually gold and basically forces the chaos dwarves to trade with the fools gold. The chaos dwarves just plate their faulty and useless weapons and armor with said fools gold and hands it over.
queen laurel
That’s pretty good
When you're naming warhammer ork related things make sure you sound like you're getting throttled by a wrench on the throat and make sure that it's also pretty simple
Get their classic broken speaking across and on your way there
rose thorn
The clan thinks they are the richest boyz around and their social ranks are represented by how many teeth they transformed into gold.
rose thorn
Get their classic broken speaking across and on your way there
Fr
Not sure how shamans would stand in society tho
queen laurel
Not sure how shamans would stand in society tho
Call them Goldcallaz and allow them to manipulate liquid gold
rose thorn
Call them Goldcallaz and allow them to manipulate liquid gold
Liquid ‘gold’
queen laurel
Liquid ‘gold’
yeah they can somehow liquefy metal and know how to use the lore of metal
let's just say they learned how to use the lore of metal because of the need ro make liquid metal swamps to live in
rose thorn
Oh yeah i see
rocky gale
Good ole Glimma Boyz
pine wedge
vast crystal
Speaking of which. Would it make sense from a lore perspective for a Chapter to use servitors in battle
rose thorn
I WANTED TO READ THIS BUT I DIDNT REALIZE THAT WASWHAT HE WAS COVERING
storm jungle
Okay hold on
queen laurel
uses the hype of space marines to get some fans
rose thorn
storm jungle
Lmaoo i swear
we talked about this exact kind of dumb content bait with Calgar's origin like last week or something
im having massive deja vu here
rose thorn
Lmao
queen laurel
we talked about this *exact* kind of dumb content bait with Calgar's origin like...
yeah eternal was not having fun with that one
jade holly
Are the Chaos Marines a widely known thing in the Imperium?
storm jungle
If you have fought against them (which is plenty of oppoturnities) yes.
they arent publicly known but the fighting arms of the Imperium will always encounter them at some point or another, they are that widespread.
gray umbra
its a little bit weird where knowledge of chaos is managed for the regular civilian but a lot of povs in books have a character who is aware of them
the general term they use is just like "traitor" from what i've seen
storm jungle
Well yeah would you want to read through a dumbass character discovering chaos and getting his mindblown like its some crazy thing.
its a tired formula
gray umbra
most povs of regular humans seeing just chaos shrines is their eyes hurting from seeing the runes
queen laurel
Well yeah would **you** want to read through a dumbass character discovering cha...
me watching a guardsman piss his pants upon seeing a venom crawler for the first time
gray umbra
morale broken
yeah i remember reading through the ciaphas cain books and they hyped up how badass these stormtroopers were
and then they ran into a pariah and started shitting and screaming
queen laurel
and then they ran into a pariah and started shitting and screaming
well Pariahs are special apparently
so you know you need to show how cool they are
gray umbra
yeah i mostly meant the scale of the bs that these badass humans have to deal with
queen laurel
yeah i mostly meant the scale of the bs that these badass humans have to deal wi...
on average they would be lucky if they are fighting rebels
but of course they have to fight Xenos and chaos
queen laurel
but no it was genestealers all along
Imagine being armed with a weapon that can blow a hole through concrete and literally send limbs flying and watching as this said weapon do nothing as this giant son of bitch just keeps going at you
pray to god you have someone in your squad carrying a plasma gun
jade holly
Well yeah would **you** want to read through a dumbass character discovering cha...
I want a story where a guy is just so fucking stubborn that no manner of chaos of any kind phases him or waivers his loyalty
queen laurel
2 orks in purple paint vs a platoon of guardsmen
Guardsman
the purple paint will only work on other orks
gray umbra
only on other orks or do they need other orks to enhance the effect?
jade holly
the purple paint will only work on other orks
Does Ork belief not work on others?
queen laurel
Does Ork belief not work on others?
no it only works on orks
that's why ork tech if not being held by an ork is incredibly Flimsy
and easy to break
you need to fill in the missing parts to make it work
jade holly
no it only works on orks
that's why ork tech if not being held by an ork is in...
I know the tech part
But what about stuff like they believe the Emperor is unkillable
storm jungle
thats not how it works
queen laurel
But what about stuff like they believe the Emperor is unkillable
it does not work
jade holly
Damn
gray umbra
i need to brush up on what the gestalt field actually does
queen laurel
not for everyone else
queen laurel
red is faster for them not for everyone else
queen laurel
So yellow Dakka is not more Dakka when not against Orks?
it is
jade holly
Ok so they can always influence themselves but they can’t influence non Orks since they don’t have it
queen laurel
But if it's a humans fires it it's just a normal rocket
queen laurel
Ok so they can always influence themselves but they can’t influence non Orks sin...
yeah
they don't have the psychic field of an ork
So they can't harness the powers of beliefs of an ork
jade holly
$10 says the Admech tries to harness that power
storm jungle
its basically psychic duct-tape
gray umbra
can i be an ork
queen laurel
its basically psychic duct-tape
that only works on the race that makes it
storm jungle
if orks made anything work through imagination they wouldnt need mechanic orks
jade holly
if orks made anything work through imagination they wouldnt need mechanic orks
There goes my hopes and dreams of a Dakka Knight
An Imperium style knight made entirely of Dakka
queen laurel
if orks made anything work through imagination they wouldnt need mechanic orks
unfornately you said it yourself that GW is going deeper and deeper into the imagination part too much
like they straight up nowadays don't even try to clarify they just say
imagination enough really funny here you go
jade holly
I do feel like the menacing and terrifying part of Orkz are forgotten these days
They’re just comedic relief now
gray umbra
nah
queen laurel
I do feel like the menacing and terrifying part of Orkz are forgotten these days
oh no
gray umbra
that's just the meme behind them
queen laurel
they are still scary
gray umbra
orks have always been shit your pants scary
jade holly
Also wtf are Krokz
gray umbra
we as consumers just see haha dakka
queen laurel
orks have always been shit your pants scary
Literally the smallest in the group can survive a hit that can cave in a human head
Like the smallest average slugga boy
jade holly
Krumpin’ Orkz? The big scary Orkz that are apparently bed shittingly scary
queen laurel
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
gray umbra
I want a story where a guy is just so fucking stubborn that no manner of chaos o...
its the armor of contempt
rose thorn
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/War_in_Heaven_(Necron)
Stellaris!!!
Also i didn’t realize war in heaven is just a term for like
A religious war lmao
viral halo
storm jungle
LMFAO
crystal forum
Stellaris!!!
me putting 5 fallen empires in the system just to get a war in heaven
rose thorn
ahahahahHAHSHAHHDSHA
queen laurel
BAHAHAHAHAHA
outer wave
What is he going to do...
normal notch
Nurgle would love this
outer wave
Honestly the purple bun does look kinda good
gray umbra
burger prince of excess
rose thorn
Warpper warpper warpper
tough haven
He’s just a little guy, leave him alone
tough haven
Warpper warpper warpper
Warper king, have it a incomprehensible way
tough haven
its basically psychic duct-tape
Reality lube
tough haven
if orks made anything work through imagination they wouldnt need mechanic orks
They need a speshul type of imagination that can imagine how da Gubbins gotta be placed to be a shoota
rose thorn
What the fuck is the internet anymore
This guy made a video about serial killers, and included a GTA death sound and Minecraft font for a guy who SAed his victims
In the first minute
Of the video
queen laurel
This guy made a video about serial killers, and included a GTA death sound and ...
Mag as a guy who has severe brain rot me what the hell are you watching for you to get these types of things
rose thorn
IDK, IRISH TERRORISM? BATMAN CONTENT?
queen laurel
IDK, IRISH TERRORISM? BATMAN CONTENT?
Honestly you know what
Just try to ignore these because i am f****** confused man
Irish terrorism and batman leads to a gta death sound on a serial killer video
queen laurel
with space marine 2 the amount of warhamemr brain rot has liek
The easiest way to gain fame is brainwashing people new to the setting
That's just how people think really
If anything i'm just going to be more annoyed that the people that are incredibly misinformed
rose thorn
i swear to god if we get a new geenration of 'age of shitmar!!!' im gonna murder someoen
queen laurel
i swear to god if we get a new geenration of 'age of shitmar!!!' im gonna murder...
Don't worry let me help
I used to be one of those people but honestly if i can punch old me i would
They are missing out
queen laurel
i wish i could stop people form buying ancient metal models
I mean hey they double is a good thing to throw at someone
arctic talon
i swear to god if we get a new geenration of 'age of shitmar!!!' im gonna murder...
sugmar
rose thorn
'omg space marines are so cool they are so strong and badass'
'GAHHH SHITCASTS!! shitcasts eternals so bad!!'
dusk patrol
Allegedly space wolves and Orks for the next edition big opening
arctic talon
Huh
dusk patrol
Grimnar new model
spring cairn
uh
arctic talon
First time for it to not be UM
spring cairn
space wolves
rose thorn
Allegedly space wolves and Orks for the next edition big opening
maybe i can care about sapce wolves one day
werent BA the main guys in 6th?
arctic talon
No
queen laurel
Allegedly space wolves and Orks for the next edition big opening
Seems they are moving on with rivalry
dusk patrol
Probably gonna lead into Russ eventually
spring cairn
delete space wolves from the setting
arctic talon
6th had a UM box and a DA one
rose thorn
ohh
queen laurel
Well probably going to wait for another year for yarrick to return
dusk patrol
Emperors Children update is gonna be next spring also apparently
arctic talon
Emperors Children update is gonna be next spring also apparently
Unsurprising
jade holly
Probably gonna lead into Russ eventually
Which Primarchs are back in action? I know Robot Gorillaman and Lion el’ Johnson or whatever his name is
spring cairn
feel like the emperor's children thing has been around the corner for 2 years
dusk patrol
All the daemon primarchs, Lion, Guilliman
rose thorn
its gonna be gulli, lion, then russ, and lastly some sanguin stand in
jade holly
Is Corvus still harassing Lorgar?
rose thorn
if i had to guess
dusk patrol
feel like the emperor's children thing has been around the corner for 2 years
They teased it awhile back but also said it wasn’t something that was gonna be soon then
dusk patrol
Is Corvus still harassing Lorgar?
No
rose thorn
all of the non codex compliant guys
rose thorn
Is Corvus still harassing Lorgar?
they stopped that back in like, early 9th?
jade holly
What about Jaghatai Khan
spring cairn
unknown
rose thorn
What about Jaghatai Khan
he is probably dead
jade holly
Damn
arctic talon
Ngl most likely to be dead missing primarch is dorn
He got retcon’d from being dead to being ???
jade holly
Speaking of Daemon Primarchs, what’s Pertuarbo doing?
arctic talon
Speaking of Daemon Primarchs, what’s Pertuarbo doing?
Building his empire of iron
dusk patrol
Losing to Morty
spring cairn
pertuing his rabo
arctic talon
And he lost to Morty
queen laurel
Ngl most likely to be dead missing primarch is dorn
What about genghis khan is he dead or easy just like kicking around in the web way doing his own thing
jade holly
Losing to Morty
Morty not being a jobber?
rose thorn
he did a collab with a primarch a whiel ago
jade holly
That’s new
arctic talon
What about genghis khan is he dead or easy just like kicking around in the web w...
Idfk, clown zone
I’d assume he’s in the black library
Maybe lost in the webway
Who the fuck knows
rose thorn
I’d assume he’s in the black library
all my faovrite characters are herre...
dusk patrol
I do like the idea of him leading some Kabal
rose thorn
khan has an ungodly hatred for drukhari
jade holly
Typhus acts more like the Primarch of the Death Guard than Morty sometimes doesn’t he?
queen laurel
Maybe lost in the webway
Personality wise is he chill with mortals like can you just like come up to him and like yo want to have a nice conversation
dusk patrol
Just the image of him in Drukhari gear leading some Kabal in secret as a crime boss is really cool even if it doesn’t make a ton of sense
jade holly
Vulkan’s still waiting for someone to finish his scavenger hunt isn’t he?
arctic talon
Vulkan we don’t know
rose thorn
Khan ending up in comorroagh would be fun
thats where he went origiinally i supposed
dusk patrol
It also gives him a more interning angle than anything else
dusk patrol
thats where he went origiinally i supposed
He went into the Webway chasing some Drukhari
spring cairn
vulkan is at my house he's chilling rn
dusk patrol
And then it closed
rose thorn
He went into the Webway chasing some Drukhari
oh whoops
arctic talon
The scavenger hunt thing is just what the salamanders think is true
rose thorn
i thought he went directly to there
dusk patrol
He may have
But we don’t know
And for all these guys it’s been so long you could do whatever
spring cairn
i hope dorn is next, he has the best armor
jade holly
Isn’t Morty not enjoying his time as a daemon?
Like didn’t he get roped into that against his will cause of Typhus
arctic talon
Not really
dusk patrol
It’s been thousands of years so
queen laurel
Jaghatai khan if he somehow returns to the imperium will probably just immediately leave seeing the state it's in
You saw how Guiliman reacted to it imagine how he will think of it
dusk patrol
I doubt it, the point of the siege and his arc leading up was him realizing he was being selfish with his ideals and putting aside his own desires for the people
But it depends on how they do it idk
And why he’s been gone
queen laurel
I doubt it, the point of the siege and his arc leading up was him realizing he w...
He is pretty chill for a primarch right and you can have a conversation with him compared to the other guys
rose thorn
Jaghatai khan if he somehow returns to the imperium will probably just immediate...
did gulli even liek khan?
dusk patrol
Kinda
rose thorn
i know lion didnt lmao
dusk patrol
People make him out nicer than he was
And also ascribe weird stuff to him, like he was very much might makes right still
And he didn’t dislike the emperor for his ideals so much as he didn’t wanna be chained down
queen laurel
And also ascribe weird stuff to him, like he was very much might makes right sti...
Well that's the genghis khan part
dusk patrol
He wanted to just go around killing forever
queen laurel
He wanted to just go around killing forever
He would have respected mogul kamir have they met
rose thorn
People make him out nicer than he was
this is to gulli or khan?
spring cairn
seems like a functioning member of society
queen laurel
Khan
dusk patrol
Over the course of the heresy he becomes more aware that he should have a higher calling and more purpose
And also that how he distanced himself from his brothers wasn’t necessarily a good thing
jade holly
Could any daemon primarchs be redeemed?
queen laurel
This guy might be old but god damn is he a badass
spring cairn
i don't think you can come back from being a deamon
rose thorn
there is a fine line on the spectrum of 'a decent person'
dusk patrol
Ultimately GW could write them being redeemed if they wanted
rose thorn
This guy might be old but god damn is he a badass
is that khan or uh, that guard regiment
spring cairn
Ultimately GW could write them being redeemed if they wanted
that would be one massive asspull
like enormous
jade holly
there is a fine line on the spectrum of 'a decent person'
Decent by our standards or 40k’s
spring cairn
gigantic if you will
jade holly
rose thorn
Decent by our standards or 40k’s
our standards
dusk patrol
khan sits like
I personally think the fanbase jerks of how nice he is way too much
He’s a good character but
He’s not a good person or nice
queen laurel
is that khan or uh, that guard regiment
it's Mogul Kamir, it's the crazy guy that has a cybernetic steed because he literally got all of his mount killed because of exhaustion or being killed by the enemy
rose thorn
I personally think the fanbase jerks of how nice he is way too much
yeah of coruse, Corvus was a much much nicer person than like, most of the primarchs
jade holly
I don’t know enough about Khan, but I always saw him as ruthless yet fair
queen laurel
Joined the guard because he was that thirsty for battle
rose thorn
I don’t know enough about Khan, but I always saw him as ruthless yet fair
(he is who leman russ thinks himself as lmao)
rose thorn
russ is worthless brat
spring cairn
russ is stinky
queen laurel
I personally think the fanbase jerks of how nice he is way too much
All right let's just be honest just tell me who's the nicest primarch
I'm talking compassionate nice guy here
queen laurel
Like the nicest one out of the demigods
spring cairn
mortarion smell good in comparison to russ
rose thorn
'you killed innocent people! you are too evil!"
jade holly
All right let's just be honest just tell me who's the nicest primarch
Vulkan probably
As long as you’re not a Xeno
dusk patrol
that would be one massive asspull
Guilliman looked past him, and something looked through him, seeing all worlds at once. Eyes as bright as the centres of galaxies stared at the black, forbidding house.
‘You are a traitor,’ Guilliman said, in a voice that was not quite his own. ‘You have brought low all that could have been, but you are as much a victim as a monster, Mortarion. Perhaps one day you might be saved. Until then, you must go back to the master you chose.’
celest dome
Magnus might be the most empathic tbh
dusk patrol
This is the Emperor implying it’s possible
jade holly
`Guilliman looked past him, and something looked through him, seeing all worlds ...
Bullshit, Mortarion didn’t even choose Nurgle
rose thorn
Magnus might be the most empathic tbh
there was a reason him and corvus were friends, or am i getting primarchs mixed up
dusk patrol
Now if it’ll happen or is idk
jade holly
Typhus roped him into it
dusk patrol
Bullshit, Mortarion didn’t even choose Nurgle
He did
spring cairn
emperor is deluded
dusk patrol
All right let's just be honest just tell me who's the nicest primarch
Corax or Vulkan probably
queen laurel
Corax or Vulkan probably
You know what i'll take it
jade holly
Corax or Vulkan probably
Obv Konrad Kurze is the nicest
rose thorn
All right let's just be honest just tell me who's the nicest primarch
corax 100%
jade holly
dusk patrol
Guilliman and Russ are up there too
dusk patrol
Yes
spring cairn
Guilliman seems like a stand up guy tbh
spring cairn
he'd judge you on merit
jade holly
Hard headed
queen laurel
Guilliman and Russ are up there too
Russ nice?
Literally the guy called the emperor's executioner
rose thorn
Guilliman and Russ are up there too
eh, i think russ murdered psykers and civilians with no second thought too many times
he thinks hes a good perosm
jade holly
eh, i think russ murdered psykers and civilians with no second thought too many ...
Now now, he does have a cool tank named after himself
dusk patrol
Russ’s biggest flaw in the heresy is he’s too empathic towards his brothers
dusk patrol
eh, i think russ murdered psykers and civilians with no second thought too many ...
They all genocided worlds without a thought
Every single one
None of them are nice or good people
rose thorn
They all genocided worlds without a thought
yeah but didnt russ conqour the most worlds?
out of all of them
or was it gulli
i forgot
dusk patrol
No and it doesn’t matter
I don’t think you’re worse because you killed 800 billion people instead of 600 billion
storm jungle
eh, i think russ murdered psykers and civilians with no second thought too many ...
They are all pieces of shit but Russ is deffo one of the top ones lmao
dusk patrol
It’s a pretty pointless distinction
rose thorn
I don’t think you’re worse because you killed 800 billion people instead of 600 ...
fair
rose thorn
genocide is ok until you go above 5 billions
dusk patrol
He can see how stuff works by looking at it
rose thorn
its okay when I do it because i need those planets :3
dusk patrol
He had an innate understanding of stuff like that
rose thorn
i thought he could see the best way to break things
spring cairn
freakturabo
jade holly
So he’s a super tech junkie
rose thorn
wait how woudl that even wrok
jade holly
why can I see him voiced by Megatron
dusk patrol
Unfortunately he never looked at a functional father son relationship
rose thorn
anyway best primarch is Corvus because he hates the rich
dusk patrol
i thought he could see the best way to break things
It’s both
rose thorn
also we shoudl tie chaos primarchs into this for like
uh,
uh
alpha legion was understandable i guess
spring cairn
idk it's hard because they all eat babies
jade holly
alpha legion was understandable i guess
No they aren’t 
rose thorn
they can be, somewhere
jade holly
No one understands them
rose thorn
idk it's hard because they all eat babies
during HH
jade holly
Not even the Alpha Legion
dusk patrol
Alpha Legion were pretty big dicks too
spring cairn
who was the bigger dick, Alpharius or Omegon
rose thorn
Fulgrim was an okay guy
jade holly
Alpha Legion were pretty big dicks too
I can tell Alpharius is a dick
rose thorn
who was the bigger dick, Alpharius or Omegon
they have swapped naemd liek 16 times you need to be more specific
jade holly
Loki but he had the physique of Thor
dusk patrol
who was the bigger dick, Alpharius or Omegon
Not really clear what either of them wanted
So who knows
rose thorn
He is a boomer
And ferrus manus
Mr iron hands iron hands
I think he was
Alright
Oh yeha sang I think is supposed to be the nicest primarch?
dusk patrol
Most of them had their moments and some didn’t
At the end of the day they were all genocidal warlords
rose thorn
Yeah
jade holly
As long as we can all agree
dusk patrol
So I don’t think them petting the dog matters much
jade holly
I am Alpharius
dusk patrol
It’s like how people argue over which marine chapter is nicest when all of them will burn civilians alive if they deem them enemies
jade holly
I feel like it can be done well if you focus on the mental aspect of them
Not their physicality
Focus entirely on their character and their struggles
Breaking them down
dusk patrol
I don’t think it matters much if one chapter will be a little nice to a guardsmen before they do that
jade holly
I feel like they’re meant to be representations of human folly
More obvious ones being Vanity through Fulgrim, Perfectionism through Dorn, Hypocrisy through Konrad, Irony through Morty
And wrath through Angron
dusk patrol
Trying to engage with 40k as “whose the most nicest wholesome chungus bestest boy” is imo not only completely missing the point of the setting but it’s boring as fuck
And most of the candidates people always bring up fucking suck anyways
rose thorn
Who was the shortlist chapter?
queen laurel
Trying to engage with 40k as “whose the most nicest wholesome chungus bestest bo...
I mean hey to be honest trying to find the character that's at least somehow morally decent enough that you don't immediately shoot them when you meet them is a fun challenge
dusk patrol
As an example, Salamanders have a whole company devoted to burning civilian heretics alive
rose thorn
As an example, Salamanders have a whole company devoted to burning civilian here...
UM had one to bombing civilians
queen laurel
But it's going to be almost always Cain
jade holly
Blood Ravens drink blood
queen laurel
Even if most of the time he is just pretending
dusk patrol
Tau will happily capture and torture children for days to find dissidents
And experiment on them
jade holly
Tau will happily capture and torture children for days to find dissidents
Orkz will not show mercy, they exist to krump
dusk patrol
Lamenters stuck with Huron Blackheart until the absolute last moment
rose thorn
What about craft worlds?
crisp heath
Elves are racist and do coke
rose thorn
Harlequins and corsairs and dark eldar are blatantly evil
Or at least some level
But craft worlds
?
queen laurel
What about craft worlds?
Eldar have the unhealthy habit of killing millions of people
dusk patrol
There is no nice Salamanders, there are no benevolent Tau, and there is no Queen of England.
queen laurel
Literally every single faction here is irredeemable
Like the closest you can get morally to the good is the Enclave
jade holly
That’s the beauty of 40k
rose thorn
Eldar have the unhealthy habit of killing millions of people
When did craft worlds?
jade holly
Everyone fucking sucks
queen laurel
Even then they are still
jade holly
queen laurel
Very much not the best
rose thorn
Ynnari have genocided people because, god of death
jade holly
40k isn’t a world to want to live in
queen laurel
When did craft worlds?
Almost always remember their way of doing prophecies isn't the best
jade holly
It’s everything horrible in existence dialed to 20
queen laurel
And they very rarely hear out people willing enough to work with them
dusk patrol
Everyone fucking sucks
That’s basically my point, people obsess over wanting to find the “nice guys” and it’s just like the lamest and laziest way to engage with the setting imo and it’s often false.
Just pick what’s cool
jade holly
That’s basically my point, people obsess over wanting to find the “nice guys” an...
Meanwhile I’m willing throwing myself on the side of the abusive father papa Nurgle who loves me very much
rose thorn
That’s basically my point, people obsess over wanting to find the “nice guys” an...
ETERNAL WHAT DID CRAFTWORLD ELDAR DO?!
queen laurel
That’s basically my point, people obsess over wanting to find the “nice guys” an...
Yeah when i tell people that your best bet for the most good guy faction is literally a rebel of a faction and even still is not the best
They still wonder if they can find a nicer thing
dusk patrol
ETERNAL WHAT DID CRAFTWORLD ELDAR DO?!
They’re fine with letting billions die and see all other races as inferior despite being a silver spoon trust fund race which fucked up and made a chaos god
queen laurel
ETERNAL WHAT DID CRAFTWORLD ELDAR DO?!
Kill an entire planet because apparently they wronged them
queen laurel
They’re fine with letting billions die and see all other races as inferior despi...
To be honest i feel like telling that in front of an elder is a sure fire way of getting killed
Your people created a god of ecstasy
dusk patrol
Well tbf most people don’t know that
jade holly
What aspect of humanity would you say Lorgar represents? Cause I think it’s blind fanaticism but I feel like that’s already covered by the Imperium
crisp heath
Craftworld Eldar on their way to doom a solar system because in 2,000 years a guy from there is going to hunt an old core world species of rat to extinction
dusk patrol
What aspect of humanity would you say Lorgar represents? Cause I think it’s blin...
Bald
queen laurel
What aspect of humanity would you say Lorgar represents? Cause I think it’s blin...
Eternal reward
I'm kidding i'm kidding
crisp heath
Bald
normal notch
There is no nice Salamanders, there are no benevolent Tau, and there is no Queen...
There is no Easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy, and there is no peace.
Only
WAR
queen laurel
Bald
dusk patrol
Eternal reward
Actually offensive
rose thorn
They’re fine with letting billions die and see all other races as inferior despi...
Feel like, that isn’t the same level as other factions,racists deciding not to join a war because you are already losing at living
dusk patrol
Hey look he found the source
dusk patrol
Feel like, that isn’t the same level as other factions,racists deciding not to j...
So my take on Eldar is, they have no reason not to be better
rose thorn
What aspect of humanity would you say Lorgar represents? Cause I think it’s blin...
Devotion to a cause.
dusk patrol
They’re born with a silver spoon on the ivory tower
queen laurel
?
Yeah they will believe a prophecy they saw and you know let's just say that this planet will become home to a human that will kill a lot of eldar
So what did they do?
They will glass the planet
dusk patrol
And they’re just arrogant pricks
jade holly
I do feel like if you look at each primarch as an exaggeration and personification of an aspect of humanity they become much more interesting
rose thorn
Yeah they will believe a prophecy they saw and you know let's just say that this...
I’ve never heard of something like that
queen laurel
I’ve never heard of something like that
They do things like that and worst
dusk patrol
Eldar are basically just rich people looking down at the poors
jade holly
Leman is his empathy overruling anything else, letting it cloud his judgement. I think, I don’t know much about him does that sound right?
rose thorn
Eldar are basically just rich people looking down at the poors
Except they are like, at 1% of their original population
queen laurel
Eldar are basically just rich people looking down at the poors
I love the fact that when you bring this fact in rogue trader they say how dare a lizard compare himself to a dragon or some shit
crisp heath
Also there's the whole robot necromancy thing
queen laurel
Motherfuckers you're too arrogant
dusk patrol
Leman is his empathy overruling anything else, letting it cloud his judgement. I...
He often thought his brothers valued their bond more than they did and it bit him in the ass
jade holly
He often thought his brothers valued their bond more than they did and it bit hi...
So would toxic empathy be a good fit for what he represents?
dusk patrol
Its why he didn’t wanna deal with Magnus and why he didn’t take his fight with the Lion seriously at first
And why he didn’t finish Horus off
crisp heath
Like for all the talk about how important souls are to eldar they very much see the souls of the dead as a resource to he exploited
Which is where all the wraith stuff comes in
dusk patrol
With Russ, idk if any of you have experienced this, but it’s like when you have a big issue arrive amongst your family
rose thorn
Idk I might just be biased, Lumineth like actively genocide their Allies for being impure
dusk patrol
And you realize the being family doesn’t matter to people as much as you thought
When push comes to shove
rose thorn
Sitting next to monks who don’t wanna do shit for others
jade holly
Thanfully my family hasn’t had any major issues
queen laurel
Idk I might just be biased, Lumineth like actively genocide their Allies for bei...
Teclis the magical twink ain't s*** for making them somehow more arrogant
dusk patrol
Largely my immediate family hasn’t but there’s been a couple cases with my dads side where things like that have happened
Basically, Russ thought they were brothers and would always stick by eachother
And then push came to shove and he realized they didn’t all see it the same
rose thorn
Teclis the magical twink ain't s*** for making them somehow more arrogant
He fucked up and only added half the arrogance to the idoneth so he doubled his dosage for the lumineth
jade holly
Would Magnus’s personification be carelessness in the search for knowledge?
crisp heath
Craftworld eldar aren't even monks, they're still wild hedonists
There's an entire path dedicated to getting coked out of your mind
You got eldar on a 500 year binge
queen laurel
He fucked up and only added half the arrogance to the idoneth so he doubled his ...
Bro genuinely thought making elves more arrogant and less like people would fix them
jade holly
There's an entire path dedicated to getting coked out of your mind
May I introduce to you Bacchus, the Roman god of wine who can tell the future only while completely inebriated
dusk patrol
The Inebriati
crisp heath
Bacchus is the most flanderized deity in human history
jade holly
I think for Guilliman, he represents our desire for control. When we feel like we’re the only one who can do something
rocky gale
Guilliman represents being a nerd
jade holly
Nah I think that’s Magnus
unironically
The chronic thirst for knowledge making us careless
rocky gale
He represents being a dumb nerd
crisp heath
Which primarch would make the best sailor scout
rocky gale
Perturabo
crisp heath
Elaborate
crisp heath
I mean Angron's got hams
jade holly
I’m still having trouble thinking of what Lorgar could represent. Blind Fanaticism is obvious but that entire Imperium does that so does it really count?
rocky gale
Na Angron is a Cardio princess, he's not doing proper squats
jade holly
Would it be searching for answers only through faith? Or would that still be Blind Fanaticism
rocky gale
The classic Femboy Corax vs Trans Curze
dusk patrol
crisp heath
Corvus Akemi
jade holly
Tf are they on about?
crisp heath
The classic Femboy Corax vs Trans Curze
Estrogen could have saved her
jade holly
I’m over here trying to paint the primarchs in the picture that they represent human follies
crisp heath
The Night Lords make heavy use of jump packs. This means can double jump, a known quality of transgender people.
I know what GW was trying to say
jade holly
The Night Lords make heavy use of jump packs. This means can double jump, a know...
No that’s Brazilians
Have you not played MGR?
rocky gale
No that’s Brazilians
There is considerable overlap in these fields
jade holly
What would Sanguinius represent?
I said Dorn represented our perfectionism but maybe Sanguinius does that
crisp heath
Sanguinius is being too hot for anyone to assume you're straight
rocky gale
What would Sanguinius represent?
crisp heath
So is Fulgrim but in his case your assumption is correct
jade holly
So is Fulgrim but in his case your assumption is correct
Fulgrim is Vanity
That’s obvious
crisp heath
Fulgrim is all about finding a way to be a man with internalized misogyny
rocky gale
But honestly Sanguinius' thing is about fighting destiny
He foresees his own death, he knows he's going to die if he goes and he goes anyway because he wants to face it and believes he has a chance to win and change fate.
crisp heath
Oh I want to leave a fun fact here
We all know Fulgrim was married several times
But the gender of his spouses is never specified
Now go write a fanfic
rose thorn
Am I just a boomer? Am I hating warhammer short form content for no reason?
seeing all of these dnd YouTubers start covering 40k
Is like
Pure pain
storm jungle
Am I just a boomer? Am I hating warhammer short form content for no reason?
No because its trash
lol
rose thorn
Lmao
Like at the end of the day the lore is the least important part of the hobby
So getting people hooked because of that is a terrible idea
hallow saddle
u just dont like transparent bandwagon jumpers which is reasonable
rose thorn
Fair
storm jungle
Yeah its the same reason nobody liked Weshammer's cringe tiktok/short content
and same reason why he switched formats lol
rose thorn
Lmao
wispy smelt
I just hope the people who watch them don't come into the hobby taking the lore too seriously
hallow saddle
too late unfortunately
rose thorn
I want new fans, I want them here for the right reason though
hallow saddle
just look at grimdank reddit etc
rose thorn
LMAO, it was a rainbow for a long while
celest dome
and ban like 50 users
As you should
storm jungle
@viral halo told me all the stories about it
storm jungle
As you should
yeah its a brilliant tactic
hallow saddle
getting the chuds to clearly out themselves
viral halo
I’ve been summoned
rose thorn
I have no clue what the banner is now
viral halo
How can I help
wispy smelt
I find some ok people on there and 40k lore
wispy smelt
Adeptus Ridiculus and Bricky I find to be better jumping on points
storm jungle
How can I help
Was just telling the folks how some of the users on the 40k discord get mad when you change the banner 🏳️🌈 
storm jungle
Adeptus Ridiculus and Bricky I find to be better jumping on points
They are very mediocre
but not terrible
rose thorn
Adeptus Ridiculus and Bricky I find to be better jumping on points
They are, they actually talk about the game
But like
There’s a lot better
wispy smelt
Suggestions?
hallow saddle
arbitor ian is my fave
cause he goes into the old white dwarfs etc
the real shit
wispy smelt
nice!
hallow saddle
and the forge world books
hallow saddle
and how the setting has changed over time
rose thorn
I mostly watch hobby content now a days
There’s alot of YouTubers who are older and are terrible at telling lore
And alot who only complain
Auspex is a good one
wispy smelt
Honestly, I stick with AdRic for the vibes mostly, they got good general info, and just don't mind if they mess up the details. Make a good listen while painting. So does Poorhammer.
rose thorn
OMG WHERE DID ALL OF THIS AI WARHAMMER CONTENT COME FROM
wispy smelt
yeeeeah, really not a fan of that
dapper root
why iz da emprah so big?
rose thorn
yeeeeah, really not a fan of that
The remembrancer is good
wispy smelt
why iz da emprah so big?
Da bigest rulez da smalest
dapper root
Da bigest rulez da smalest
Iz he an ogrun?
rose thorn
The warhammer tv stuff is good
wispy smelt
AOS content creators are generally better
That might be preference, but I would like to know more about AoS. Gotrek and Flix from fantasy are still my overall favorite Black Library books
rose thorn
But you should share an account with your for Ed’s
rose thorn
That might be preference, but I would like to know more about AoS. Gotrek and Fl...
Okay so. The AOS Gotrek books fucking suck to read
Like if you read all of them
You will really get sick of it
wispy smelt
Thanks for the warning
wispy smelt
Iz he an ogrun?
Na bigga
rose thorn
But besides that
Every faction has at least 2 books
I highly suggest looking at all the factions
And see what’s coolest to you
wispy smelt
Kharadron Overlords and Fyreslayers got my interest. I wear my preferences proudly.
rose thorn
It follows the idea that most factions don’t matter to you, but the few you like you REALLY LIKE
rose thorn
Kharadron Overlords and Fyreslayers got my interest. I wear my preferences proud...
First I suggest any of the mini story collections, the audio versions are dirt cheap and represent most factions well
Secondly
They have good books all around
wispy smelt
Sweet!
wispy smelt
I've noticed. Got a small series going
Also picked up some 40k novels from humble bundle
I'm giving them a look over and going in with caution (Space Marine focused) Space Sharks have my interest
rose thorn
I've noticed. Got a small series going
The arkanauts oath is really really good
rose thorn
Also picked up some 40k novels from humble bundle
Nice
wispy smelt
will keep an eye out.
I try to grab something I like from every order or faction in both settings
and ride that so I can enjoy the crazy bits of each world
Really helps me pick my models too
rose thorn
I really really liked spears of the emperors of that helps at all
Let me check my books
wispy smelt
I really really liked spears of the emperors of that helps at all
It does actually. Was one of the bundle
wispy smelt
good to know
wispy smelt
it did not send
a dm is cool
also just dropping this one to go beside Poorhammer
PancreasNoWork
wispy smelt
lmfao
rose thorn
And has some pretty bad opinions on chaos
wispy smelt
never thought about that
shell mason
Yo
opaque coyote
wispy smelt
lmfaooooo
rose thorn
Guess he's a strong psyker
Time travel (?)
arctic talon
Time travel (?)
The rubric is on going
All members of the thousand sons get dusted even if they get displaced into the future
rose thorn
Oh shit
opaque coyote
I think it's random? Not sure
green loom
I think I found him
opaque coyote
yeah
Honestly I think it would be interesting if sometimes, operatives just disappear randomly
green loom
He and Prask swapped places
opaque coyote
Like they don't spawn anymore
opaque coyote
He and Prask swapped places
Like imagine if Prask was just gone
And you see the other
depressed
And it can just randomly happen
green loom
I have them all logged 
opaque coyote
For each character
I think the best part of Darktide's
I hesitate to call it story
"Narrative"
I guess is the right word
gray umbra
is that guy with the green armor still guarding the psykanium
opaque coyote
Is when the Traitor outright gets Servitorized
green loom
is that guy with the green armor still guarding the psykanium
Armour got swapped but it's still him
opaque coyote
I think it would be cool if like
Some operatives die
A guy goes missing
And it can happen on some cilents and not on others
opaque coyote
So like, for some players, Prask is still alive
For others, Prask is gone
And when you ask his partner
He simply just says he went to the Throne
gray umbra
like in the dead sense or the toilet sense
opaque coyote
like in the dead sense or the toilet sense
dead
Implied to just die in a mission
It would be randomized for some accounts or characters
So one character can have Prask alive
and another can have him dead
gray umbra
oh like slowly cycle out npcs in the ship
i like the uniformity but it would be neat if the had like distinctive appearances
like how everytime the money store rotates out a set, it has some character its associated to
opaque coyote
oh like slowly cycle out npcs in the ship
yeah
or just have them be "dead"
like just have them not appear for one character
why?
he died in a mission
It would make the reality of the Imperium stark
even in the Mourningstar, the professionals?
They die too
gaunt sable
Have we named the Servitors in the hub area yet? >.>
gray umbra
i know live service is a buzz word but would be cool if there was a "living world"
servitors dont get names ok
opaque coyote
Have we named the Servitors in the hub area yet? >.>
I named the guy who cleans bloodstains
"Red"
gaunt sable
we can give them nicknames. :V
gray umbra
Drip heretic
opaque coyote
Have we named the Servitors in the hub area yet? >.>
I had the idea of like
gray umbra
for the commisary lady
opaque coyote
A character that constantly has a Servitor around them
It's actually a friend that was servitorized on false charges
later proven false
but due to the adminstratum being too slow, they already got lobotomized and servitorized
so the character just keeps them around
as a combination of guilt and the sort of selfish need to feel like they have their friend back
Even if they really aren't anymore
gray umbra
that sounds like a book series
like ciaphas cain and his sidekick jurgen
guardsman and his sidekick gunservitor
shell mason
another run
opaque coyote
guardsman and his sidekick gunservitor
yeah I imagine the guardsman would be
depressed as fuck
opaque coyote
he'll give him a proper burial after the engagement
Yeah to make it more depressing
Have a psyker or something be like
"Yeah nah he's still fully sentient in there and screaming"
"They rushed it"
gray umbra
the arc then becomes them trying to convince hadron to build him a way to speak
young pecan
Even if they really aren't anymore
Idk if this is shown anywhere else ever but in Rogue Trader ||there's an event where a lot of the servitors regain some of their consciousness at once to a degree, and are in complete agony so you can choose to either do surgery and make them keep working or mercy kill iirc||
Imagine if the character has to experience that choice
arctic talon
||this is because of Nomos tbf||
young pecan
||this is because of Nomos tbf||
||I should probably beat the game before I talk about this stuff xd||
arctic talon
||I should probably beat the game before I talk about this stuff xd||
💀 I'm so sorry
my bad
young pecan
No no you were in the right to say that LMAO
storm jungle
shell mason
jade holly
Does Peter Turbo have a daemon form?
jade holly
He’s too busy LARPing for when he faces Dorn
It’s like Rome vs Carthage with those two
siege within a siege that’s sieging a siege
hallow plover
to be fair, Dorn and Perturabo deserves each other
outer wave
They should bang
jade holly
Their warfare is their sex
opaque coyote
hate fucking
hallow plover
outer wave
They're competing over who gets to top
opaque coyote
They're competing over who gets to top
Corax X Lorgar
Corax is always on top
(real)
jade holly
Dorn be like “Perturabo, your siege engines are so big, I don’t think my walls can han-“ ok you know what that innuendo is a bit too accurate
outer wave
Why couldnt the Horus Heresy just end with gay sex?
opaque coyote
Why couldnt the Horus Heresy just end with gay sex?
The emperor wasn't feeling like it so he said no
and horus instantly died because of it
jade holly
Big E said no gay sex that day
outer wave
That is his son!
outer wave
He would NOT do that to his son!
opaque coyote
That is his son!
what do you think alpharius and omegon do behi-
outer wave
He would fuck his 7 twink boyfriends and husbands
outer wave
outer wave
His ass stank
arctic talon
Does Peter Turbo have a daemon form?
he does, we just have no art
unless you want to consider the Golden daemon commended Perturabo Kitbash
as how he looks
opaque coyote
he does, we just have no art
the fanart of it does look cool tho
jade holly
he does, we just have no art
I’m imagining some form of living fortress/War Engine
arctic talon
but thats a fan mini that got GW approval
jade holly
A furnace for a heart
arctic talon
did that get entered into golden demon?
jade holly
Idfk
jade holly
I looked up Perturabo Daemon form and that was the first image
hallow plover
There's only fan art / kitbashes
jade holly
Perturabo's daemon form prolly gona look pretty metalic
I want him to have something so over the top it would def fit the Iron Lord master of Siege
Dual
Gatling
Bolters
hallow plover
He's probably GUNS: primarch edition
jade holly
Mounted to his arms
To make 4
Guns, missiles
Anything to break a defense
War Machine on steroids
hallow plover
His hammer is Ferrus Manus' one , right?
jade holly
What negative trait of humanity would you say Perturabo represents?
arctic talon
What negative trait of humanity would you say Perturabo represents?
Being a petulant man child
languid meadow
too many to count
arctic talon
He’s incredibly self destructive
jade holly
Is it because of confidence or an ego?
languid meadow
Ego, pride, you name it
jade holly
So self inflation of self
arctic talon
Is it because of confidence or an ego?
Ego, pride, a desire to be the victim almost
Refusal to speak up
languid meadow
tbf like 90% of primarchs suffer from pride (honestly they all do)
it's just gets really bad with some
jade holly
So far I got:
Fulgrim - Vanity
Guilliman - Control and feeling the need to be the center of the universe
Angron - Uncontrolled wrath
Konrad - Hypocrisy
Lemann Russ - Toxic Empathy
Sanguinius - Hubris
Perturabo - Inflation of Self
Lorgar I guess could be Blind Fanaticism even though that’s like the entire Imperium
Dorn could be Perfectionism?
green loom
Fulgrim is kinda hot
jade holly
What negative trait does The Lion represent?
jade holly
So detachment from emotions?
arctic talon
To an extent
green loom
What negative trait does The Lion represent?
History buffs
jade holly
I originally said Irony for Morty
jade holly
But does that really count as a negative trait of humanity
Alpharius is Deceit
That one feels obvious
arctic talon
honestly
Lion is paranoid as shit
I think thats probably his greatest flaw
how violent he is and how paranoid he is
languid meadow
is he still like that in son of the forest?
jade holly
So now I got:
the Lion: Paranoia
Fulgrim: Vanity
Lemann Russ: Toxic Empathy
Rowbot Ghillie Suit: Believing oneself to be the one to solve everything
Lorgar: Blind Fanaticism
Perturabo: Desire to be more than what you are
Alpharius: Deceit
Angron: Uncontrolled Wrath
Magnus: Careless search for Knowledge
Konrad: Hypocrisy
Sanguinius: Hubris
arctic talon
is he still like that in son of the forest?
No because he gets character assassination suddenly decides to be less awful
jade holly
Btw I’m not going off of just their personality
But what the chapter is known for too
opaque coyote
So far I got:
Fulgrim - Vanity
Guilliman - Control and feeling the need to be th...
There is a theory that Angron was originally supposed to be empathetic
until he got nailed
and became
not
jade holly
I mean
opaque coyote
empathetic
jade holly
The world eaters can still be
opaque coyote
his brains got replaced with fucking aggressive nails
opaque coyote
The world eaters can still be
yeah that is true
unfortunately that just turned them crazy
lma
jade holly
Because I’m trying to figure out which aspect of humanity each Primarch and their respective chapter is personifying to the extremes
Both positively and negatively
opaque coyote
generally they were actually intelligent
making dedicated plans
organizing
it wasn't until they actually got into the battle does it all go to shit
jade holly
So I guess World Eaters and Angron can be Emotional outbursts?
opaque coyote
so basically they have to plan for themselves eventually going mad and killing everybody around them
including their teammates
jade holly
Strong Emotions?
opaque coyote
So I guess World Eaters and Angron can be Emotional outbursts?
yeah that sounds right
snapping basically
opaque coyote
Angron thinks that even if wasn't nailed, he still would've rebelled
jade holly
That’s what I looking for
jade holly
Yeah he himself represents Wrath as both a tool to protect, and a tool to attack
Unfortunately now all he’s left with is lashing out
and so his chapter follows suit
opaque coyote
yeah I think there was a interesting theory that the primarchs are supposed to represent parts of the Emperor
Including Angron
opaque coyote
Considering the Emperor burned down Lorgar's city simply because the guy wasn't conquering fast enough
jade holly
If only I knew about it them and their chapters in depth
opaque coyote
Yeah...
jade holly
Considering the Emperor burned down Lorgar's city simply because the guy wasn't ...
I thought it was because he wanted to worship him as a god
opaque coyote
If only I knew about it them and their chapters in depth
gotta read the horus slo- I mean heresy
opaque coyote
I thought it was because he wanted to worship him as a god
cherry on top of the anger sundae
jade holly
Lorgar and the Word Bearers obviously represent fanaticism
opaque coyote
it was mostly the fact that lorgar didn't conquer fast enough
jade holly
I think that’s obvious
opaque coyote
like lorgar spent his time trying to make the cities actually look good
jade holly
Lorgar was desperate to find a god to worship in, whether it was the Emperor or the Chaos Gods
opaque coyote
and have proper infrastructure
for the emperor
...
so of course to reward his efforts
he burned down his capital and massacred the population
jade holly
I’ve been told Lemann Russ was very loyal and empathetic to his brothers but didn’t truly grasp the gravity of situations
opaque coyote
lorgar might be a bitch, but damn he did NOT deserve it
warm comet
Ogryns not being able to count is weird
I love the idea that if an ogryn spots an enemy he'll be like "There's over 3 of them!"
And when you look, it's an entire army
jade holly
Ogryns are very
Very
Very very
Stupid
The ones we have in game are geniuses in comparison
vast crystal
lorgar might be a bitch, but damn he did NOT deserve it
No he did
Pretty much everyone. Regardless of what side they where on. Deserved what was coming to them. Especially big E
jade holly
Literally everyone in 40k deserves what happens to th em
But damn
Sometimes it’s hard to watch
Like Angron
opaque coyote
Like Angron
didn't deserve the nailing since uh
he literally had no control over it
he literally got jumped when he was a child