40k-lore-chat

[normal notch]

Tbh I can see the kickass cover art too yeah

[opaque coyote]

Extraterrestrial Satellite Communication | Horus

I fucking love how it's called

"The Horus Heresy"

[arctic talon]

He literally consumes the soul of 1000 psykers give or take a few hundred

every day

[opaque coyote]

[normal notch]

Oh gosh

yet again adding to his hypocrisy

[crystal forum]

so the models you can buy are directly about cadia? like do they not exist anymore?

[normal notch]

Well more like irony

[opaque coyote]

To be fair he isn't aware

Or

[shell mason]

Laati wtf is that?

[opaque coyote]

Conscious

[young pecan]

Why didn't they realize Horus Heresy would betray them? Are they stupid?

[normal notch]

Oh
Hm

that’s…
Interesting

[normal stream]

what even is this

[arctic talon]

she picks out new geminae everytime she's reborn and there's 2 "fragments" following her during the revival process called Faith and Duty

[young pecan]

You could maybe call him vaguely conscious I think

[normal notch]

So he doesn’t even talk or nothing
Just sits on the Golden Throne

[young pecan]

But not very much

[arctic talon]

He does send visions

sometimes

[normal stream]

dude's tired man

[arctic talon]

he's kind of a mess mentally

[normal stream]

Never got a break during the Great Crusade

[arctic talon]

The Emperors psyche is shattered

[crystal forum]

so that's them?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah after 10000 years of being stuck in the Least Comfortable Chair in the galaxy

He kinda fractured into multiple consciousnesses.

[normal stream]

So he decided to self-KO so he could rest

[shell mason]

don't listen to Laati she is very much crazy

[arctic talon]

Faith and Duty are implied to be Elanor and Genevive yes

[crystal forum]

like i didnt expect genevieve and fuckface to get any models. they're so minor

[arctic talon]

but they aren't reborn like Celestine

[normal notch]

I can respect that

[normal stream]

All he wants to do is chill and get high off of psyker blood every day

[arctic talon]

But The Emperor is essentially for all intents and purposes a God now

[opaque coyote]

Honkai Star Rail reference

[shell mason]

die

[normal notch]

So he’s essentially a glorified stoner zombie now

[arctic talon]

hell he's even got daemons

sort of

[crystal forum]

he's a god who doesnt help much

[normal notch]

Uh what

[crystal forum]

unlike the real gods

[shell mason]

sounds like my friend from high school

[normal stream]

I mean he kinda technically helps ships navigate

[normal notch]

[normal stream]

He's a glorified lighthouse

[normal notch]

bahaha

[opaque coyote]

Kinda too busy trying to prevent himself from dying

[crystal forum]

ooooh i can turn on a big flashlight in the warp

[shell mason]

I was gonna say that

[crystal forum]

big woop

[arctic talon]

The Legion of the damned are

odd

[crystal forum]

*fucking awesome

[arctic talon]

they're warp manifestations

[opaque coyote]

To be precise

He acts as a reference point in the warp.

Without it, literally no one would know where to go

[arctic talon]

but they seem to be made up of dead marines(maybe)

[normal notch]

A bunch of daemons.
That fight for him.

Uh

[arctic talon]

or at least imitations of them

and yes they get banished to the warp

[young pecan]

Shhh, you'll attract the Minecraft Youtubers

[shell mason]

The Emperor is currently trying to literally keep himself to together

[arctic talon]

and are immortal

and their guns defy the laws of any known science

they make machine spirits freak out

ect.

[opaque coyote]

And failing miserably

[normal notch]

Wait so it’s his fault the warp exists

[arctic talon]

no

[opaque coyote]

No

[arctic talon]

The Necrons did that(sort of)

[normal stream]

Potentially the lost Fire Hawks chapter

[crystal forum]

no

[arctic talon]

when they genocided the Old Ones

[opaque coyote]

Necrons fault technically

[arctic talon]

The sea of souls already existed

[crystal forum]

the warp has always existed

[arctic talon]

but it was a lot nicer back then

[normal notch]

oh

[arctic talon]

and then the genocide of the Old Ones made it go to shit

[opaque coyote]

It didn't have daemons nibbling on your brain

[arctic talon]

and then the birth of slaanesh made it go marginally more to shit

and then the great crusade

[normal notch]

Then how were the chaos gods created

[arctic talon]

made it go marginally more to shit

[shell mason]

perhaps it has been a since of treatment to have him reflect on his past actions

[crystal forum]

enslavers have been around for a while

or whatever they're called

[arctic talon]

Sapient life has emotions, The Chaos Gods feed on negative emotions

[crystal forum]

grimdark? 🙀

[arctic talon]

the war in heaven was when they went from tiny warp entities

to big ones

[normal stream]

Sapient psychically-attuned life

[normal notch]

Do you think he ever thinks about all the shit he’s done or he just is chill with it

[arctic talon]

I think he's just mentally done

ngl

[opaque coyote]

They have and haven't always existed.

It's a weird thing since the Warp treats time as a suggestion.

[shell mason]

Mostly yes

[arctic talon]

We do know the birth point of one Chaos god from large warp entity -> Chaos God

[normal notch]

‘Time is just a number’

[arctic talon]

the Eldar Empire gave birth to Slaanesh

during The Fall

[normal stream]

"Time is just a vibe"

"We can go back if we wanted to"

[arctic talon]

if you're wondering what the Eldar Empire looked like when it fell

just look at the Dark Eldar

[normal notch]

Wait space elves.
Did that.

[shell mason]

Would be a decent and painful rethink of your actions time

[opaque coyote]

Maybe

Maybe not

We don't know

[young pecan]

I love that both 40k and D&D have magic that works off of belief

[normal stream]

yep

[arctic talon]

they're the remmenents of the Eldar Empire

[crystal forum]

-john grammaticus

[shell mason]

No

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the Space Elves murder fucked a God into existence

[arctic talon]

But yeah the space elves birthed Slaanesh

[normal stream]

"I'm tired" -Also john grammaticus warhammer

[young pecan]

Always the elves

[opaque coyote]

Always the elves

[arctic talon]

They didn't do that in WHFB

smh

[shell mason]

Rethinking of his talking with Robert maybe so

[opaque coyote]

That's going in the book

[young pecan]

That's why wood elves are superior to Eldar knife ears

[arctic talon]

breathing too loud goes in the book

[shell mason]

Calling him a tool but also his last hope

[normal notch]

also Warhammer 40k is just the Warhammer verse 40k years into the future right

[arctic talon]

No

Warhammer 40k is its own setting

[crystal forum]

no

[normal notch]

ah

[arctic talon]

Warhammer Fantasy Battle is its own

[crystal forum]

that's a fan theory bullshit

[arctic talon]

Age of Sigmar is connected to Warhammer Fantasy battle

[normal stream]

In WFB early on it was suggested it was, but that was basically proven to be a nope

[shell mason]

but then again his son is fucking a pointy ear sooo maybe not

[normal notch]

Age of what

[crystal forum]

huh

[young pecan]

Sugmar

[arctic talon]

Its another game system/setting

Age of Sigmar

[normal stream]

[crystal forum]

you have much to learn young padawan

[arctic talon]

the dude the Humans worship in Warhammer Fantasy

[shell mason]

Different setting same concept

[arctic talon]

anyways not that important

but Sigmar is much less evil

WHFB and AoS are much less grimdark in general

[normal notch]

I thought I knew a good bit of 40k’s lore

[crystal forum]

classic mistake

[shell mason]

Shut up Jay

[young pecan]

What is your favorite faction?

[normal notch]

I know like
Lots of little tidbits

[normal stream]

Oh, speaking of advancing time and lore... Are we technically in the 42nd millennium now? Does everything need to be updated to say "In the 42nd Millennium there is only war"?

[young pecan]

That's where I started tbh

[normal notch]

I like the Tau tbh
They seem kinda chill (extremism aside)

[young pecan]

I don't know a ton but I expanded on those tidbits

[shell mason]

Yes

[normal stream]

Minus the whole mind control bit, right?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

the only people who know most 40k lore are insane (@arctic talon )

[normal notch]

And that

[opaque coyote]

And also the death camps

Don't forget that

[arctic talon]

More so propaganda being shoved down your throat

[young pecan]

I thought they were the least extremist faction in the setting tbh

[opaque coyote]

And the fact that to fuck you need to ask the government

[arctic talon]

which I guess

is mind control

[young pecan]

Except maybe Eldar? But don't know a lot about either

[arctic talon]

and yeah the Tau are the least extreme faction

The Eldar

[normal notch]

Half life 2 reference

[arctic talon]

*Craftworld Eldar

are willing to kill like

billions to save a few of themselves

they just feel kind of sad about it afterwards lol

[shell mason]

Hell divers type shit

[crystal forum]

made me think of the anakin meme

[arctic talon]

not really a shining example of morality

[opaque coyote]

Eternals kinda mind control the Tau

But I think they need to go into proximity with each other?

[normal stream]

IIRC 3rd ed Tau codex (or was it 4th?) implied the Ethereals had an actual biological/chemical control?

[arctic talon]

Sort of

[shell mason]

I fw that heavy

[normal stream]

It wasn't just propaganda.

[arctic talon]

its unclear for Ethreals like

phereomone stuff

[normal stream]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

the ethreal pheremone stuff is odd

[normal stream]

I can't remember which 'dex it was that had the dissection of the ethereal

[young pecan]

You make a good point but isn't their afterlife objectively hell?

[crystal forum]

would be super dumb if they farted mind control

[young pecan]

I forgor

[arctic talon]

They have soul stones

so no

The Drukhari deserve their afterlife being objectively hell

[normal stream]

It's hell when their soul stones are cracked

[young pecan]

Oh, lol xd

[arctic talon]

they caused the fall

and then decided

to fucking double down lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I like to think that

The Ethernal pheromones stuff only applies if they get closed.

[crystal forum]

that's the nanosecond before they get eaten

[young pecan]

Are Drukhari a separate race or just Eldar who committed to Slaanesh?

[shell mason]

chad shit

[young pecan]

And can they like reform

[shell mason]

yes

[opaque coyote]

Eldar who decided to take more drugs to stave off Slaanesh

[arctic talon]

Drukhari are the rememants of the Eldar empire

[normal notch]

If I’m being completely honest though I like the Imperium purely because they have ordinary guys killing shit and overcoming what would be quite literally astronomically difficult to kill aliens

[arctic talon]

they do not worship Slaanesh

[crystal forum]

eldar souls are TASTY

[shell mason]

They just split

[arctic talon]

they hate slaanesh

The Drukhari are whats left of the Eldar Empire

lol

the craftworld eldar

were a breakaway group who first Tried to stop the fall

[shell mason]

Slannesh just laid claim to all their asses in the warp

[normal stream]

Ah, this was the Xenology book that was published around the time of IA4.

[arctic talon]

and then gave up and just focused on doomsday prepping

[crystal forum]

space amish

[arctic talon]

and running away

[arctic talon]

no thats the Exodites

[normal notch]

so the necrons are actually asses right

[opaque coyote]

Yes? No?

Yesn't.

There do exist Deldar that have escaped and reformed

But most in the lower echelons of their society will never have the chance.

And most in the upper echelons love being shitheads

[arctic talon]

the Necrons are assholes yeah

[crystal forum]

all factions are asses

[arctic talon]

^

[normal stream]

Name me one group in 40k that aren't asses.

[shell mason]

Necrons are robots mostly

[arctic talon]

Jokaero

[crystal forum]

grimdark

[opaque coyote]

Interex before they all died

[normal notch]

Okay yeah I walked into that one, it’s 40k here

[young pecan]

Orks

[arctic talon]

thats

not true

[opaque coyote]

Best monki

[young pecan]

They're a quite honest people :^)

[normal notch]

Okay he has a point

[arctic talon]

True!

[shell mason]

Unless they were rich enough to get they're personality transfered over as well

[normal stream]

I said 40k, not 30k

[arctic talon]

alright now do the burny dance

[crystal forum]

orks are honest at least

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah

Uh

[normal stream]

ok I... can't come back to this.

lol

[normal notch]

They’re actually kinda nice
Yeah I like the orks

[arctic talon]

also yeah the Necrons are kind of just

assholes

they were assholes as the necrontyr as well

[opaque coyote]

The Watchers

[normal stream]

The necrons are salty af assholes

[arctic talon]

they had a ton of slaves

and treated their pesants like shit

no joke

[crystal forum]

necrons are turbo assholes

[arctic talon]

they lived in fucking mud huts

[normal notch]

There is no Easter bunny
There is no tooth fairy
And there is no god emperor of mankind

[arctic talon]

in a space faring empire

[opaque coyote]

Their citizens lived in dirt huts.

While they had Star Trek Spaceships

[normal stream]

Damnit. Those things are just so cute though.

[crystal forum]

they'll wipe away a species just to give themselves skin

they do not care

[arctic talon]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP

genuinely the Necrontyr were assholes

and the Old ones were absolutely justified in saying No

[crystal forum]

they wanted to kill the old ones because they were JEALOUS

[arctic talon]

now granted I don't think the Necrontyr

deserved to you know

get turned into souless abominations

[normal notch]

and no peace
Because there is no peace
Only

WAR

cue disposal unit playing

[arctic talon]

but like at least the peasants aren't like sufering anymore I guess

they don't have the brains to worry anymore

[crystal forum]

what peasants

[arctic talon]

until they suddenly suffer from the Dysphorek

in which that case

[crystal forum]

you mean the T-1000's

[arctic talon]

Yeah

The Warriors

aren't really warriors lol

[crystal forum]

mindless

[normal stream]

salty af

[arctic talon]

their minds are locked away

not so much as mindless

[normal notch]

Well this is rather intriguing

[crystal forum]

oh

i thought they lost their souls

[shell mason]

Mhm

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

but the Necrons somehow preserved

the memory between the soul and mind

[crystal forum]

so still no soul

[arctic talon]

either way the secrets of biotransference are lost forever

[opaque coyote]

The nature of a soul is unclear

[arctic talon]

there's a gnawing emptiness in Necron minds

[normal stream]

Would you rather be an average joe Necrontyr or an average joe Rubric Marine?

[arctic talon]

Rubric marine

[crystal forum]

bruh necron shit isn't even science fiction it's magic

[arctic talon]

yes

prolly

idfk

[normal notch]

What marine

[opaque coyote]

Can't tell

Both are trapped inside their bodies with no memories eternally screaming in pain

[crystal forum]

its just funny to think of necron and old ones stuff as technology

like even height dark age humanity didnt make a single webway

[arctic talon]

A majority of the Thousand Sons got turned to dust

[opaque coyote]

It's magical technology

[arctic talon]

In an attempt to stop their horrifying mutations

[normal stream]

Oooh, lets add a third to the mix. Chaos Dreadnought.

[opaque coyote]

Okay definitely not that

[normal notch]

Bro got Thanos’d

[arctic talon]

and well the ritual did stop the flesh change

it just turned

99% of the legion

[normal notch]

Okay so we are cooked

[arctic talon]

into fucking dust

[normal stream]

They kinda did though? Empy's man-made webway

[arctic talon]

that was post dark age

tbf

[crystal forum]

he copied old ones

[normal stream]

Oh, true

[arctic talon]

using the golden throne

[normal stream]

Post dark-age

[arctic talon]

which is uh

[normal notch]

How the heck do you even begin to corrupt a dreadnought

[normal stream]

Hey time is just a suggestion

[arctic talon]

not human tech

[normal notch]

wait no

[normal stream]

lmao

[arctic talon]

Depends

[normal notch]

Chaos bullshit right

[arctic talon]

If you want a helbrute

well

[crystal forum]

get them when they're young

[arctic talon]

its pretty horrid

if you just want a chaos dreadnought

shove a chaos space marine into a dreadnought

[opaque coyote]

Shove a CSM in there and wait 5 minutes as they quickly go insane

[arctic talon]

Helbrutes also need some other stuff

and changes made

[crystal forum]

find dreadnought is issue

[normal notch]

the fact that these are light work for Titus in Space Marine 2 is wild

[arctic talon]

I wouldn't say Light work

tbf

lol

[normal stream]

Has GW officially distinguished helbrutes as something different than a renamed Chaos Dreadnought?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[crystal forum]

yeah he has big main character syndrome

[arctic talon]

Helbrutes are heavily mutated Chaos dreadnoughts

usually made with dreadnought chasis that are considered unsalvagable

or unrepairable

[normal notch]

bros plot armor is stronger than the space marines’ armor itself

[arctic talon]

The upside is that

[shell mason]

correct

[arctic talon]

Helbrutes are uh

[arctic talon]

much more reusable

[normal stream]

Is there a citation on that? Newer 'dex?

[crystal forum]

dark mechanicum cant even make dreads L

[arctic talon]

Yeah 8e and 9e codex have it

[normal stream]

neat, ty

I stopped collecting 'dexes a whiles back

[crystal forum]

dark mechanicum sucks so much

[normal notch]

Hm
Well
I shall depart
see yall

[normal stream]

New dark mech book!

[crystal forum]

i fucking wish

[normal stream]

many excites

[arctic talon]

bye

[crystal forum]

wait

[shell mason]

good those shit are expensive

[normal stream]

Legions Imperialis though

[arctic talon]

Civil War for Mars

is basically dark mechanicum wank

[crystal forum]

you're joking right

[arctic talon]

the Book

[normal stream]

At once point I had almost every 40k book and 'dex published

[opaque coyote]

Why does this sound like instructions to microwave food

[arctic talon]

and no he's not joking

dark mechanicum is getting a book for LI

[crystal forum]

WHERE

WHEN

[arctic talon]

well

rulebook

lol

so its rulebook lore

[opaque coyote]

"Step 1, cripple CSM"

[crystal forum]

when was it announced

[arctic talon]

Like

a few days ago

[normal stream]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/1ruOmhhu/sunday-preview-machines-wage-civil-war-on-mars-and-chaos-hordes-descend-from-the-north/

[crystal forum]

FUCK

[arctic talon]

Civil War for Mars is also a lke

[crystal forum]

HOLY SHIT

[arctic talon]

Dark Mechanicum/Mechanicum book

[opaque coyote]

"Step 2 [REDACTED IN THE ORDER OF THE INQUISTION]

[normal stream]

The rulebooks have so much lore though, and tbh tend to be more neutrally-written than 'dexes (Looking at you, Matt Ward)

[opaque coyote]

"Step 3 Place crippled CSM into dreadnought chassis"

"Step 4 Wait decades as the daemons slowly eat into their minds and they begin screaming"

[crystal forum]

wait this is just the mars campaign

[opaque coyote]

"Step 5 enjoy your new Hellbrute"

[crystal forum]

i thought there was 40k dark mechanicum

[normal stream]

Yes, for LI

nah, Legions Imperialis

aka epic

[crystal forum]

no offense

but who fk cares about imperialis

[normal stream]

Well, GW's been reusing models between their different scaled games. So dark mech models in LI means they might come out for HH.

[shell mason]

crazy

[normal stream]

And then there's a miniscule chance we see them in 40k... although not likely

We haven't seen much of the Taghmata stuff in 40k.

[shell mason]

Get witchfinder now

I need to know

For....Reasons

[normal stream]

And we all know that GW won't publish rules for anything they don't have models for (thanks Chapterhouse)

[normal stream]

While my friends grew up on Marvel, I grew up on 40k, Inquisitor, and Epic lol

[shell mason]

ah

[opaque coyote]

Tf is Epic

[crystal forum]

i wish i knew 40k before it cost my life savings

[opaque coyote]

Epic Games

[normal stream]

They were watching cartoon network while I binged 40k books and read codices cover-to-cover even if I didn't play those factions

[opaque coyote]

?

[normal stream]

think tiny-scaled 40k

[crystal forum]

i bet kid me would have loved 40k

[opaque coyote]

It would've costed your parents life savings instead

[normal stream]

Like you could play with titans on the regular

And regiments

[crystal forum]

nah not in the 2000's

shit was cheaper like legos

[normal stream]

Man, but they used to have shit like blister pack weapons

And you'd be fishing for JUST THAT ONE WEAPON

and none of the blisters in the store had that weapon

And not all of the sprues on the blisters were visible from the outside

[crystal forum]

affordable titans still costing the same as a leman russ now

[normal stream]

sadge

[crystal forum]

how tf do they justify this shit

[normal stream]

"Inflation"

[crystal forum]

"fuck sweden in particular"

[normal stream]

At one point in time, it was "fuck kirby"

[opaque coyote]

What the fuck is this pumpkin I found in Costco

[normal stream]

looks tyranid

[opaque coyote]

Did Nurgle fucking infect it wtf

[outer wave]

Why does Horus Heresy era have so much cooler stuff than 40k

[normal stream]

Niche crowd

[crystal forum]

some are like that

lots of kinda of pumpkins

[normal stream]

Less races too

[crystal forum]

clearly no rural people in chat

[opaque coyote]

Is it healthy to eat or nah

[normal stream]

Heresy has lots of marines, Imperial Army, Mechanicum.. and that's about it

40k has too many factions already

[crystal forum]

just get a regular pumpkin

[arctic talon]

looks normal to me

just ugly

[opaque coyote]

Nurgle blessed is the proper term

[outer wave]

Its just really warty

[normal stream]

yooo

New warcom blog

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xd9mklal/heresy-thursday-raise-your-oily-manipulators-to-the-sky-in-praise-of-the-dark-mechanicum/

[crystal forum]

regular fruits and vegetables look weird af

but modern industry wastes like 3/4 removing the aesthetically bad ones

[opaque coyote]

Unmodified banana moment

[crystal forum]

that's not regular

regular is like most strawberries look mutant

because nature is scary

[opaque coyote]

Yeah true

Loads of bumps

Still taste good tho

Just never seen a pumpkin that looked like that

Cause I was born in the city

[paper haven]

The problem with The Watchmen (Well, one of the problems) is that the author is also media illiterate.

[opaque coyote]

True

Also I had a funny idea

Imagine a Romance Comedy where Lex is involved with Clark and Superman independently and doesn't know it's the same person

Like he has a genuine romantic relationship with Clark

[crystal forum]

like starship troopers!

[opaque coyote]

But he hates Superman

Unknowing they are they same person

[paper haven]

The book maybe, but the guy who made the movie knew exactly what he was doing.

[crystal forum]

hell yes

💯

[paper haven]

In his own words: "The people who understand the point will forever be tormented by the people who don't."

I strive to be that maliciously self-aware.

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I kinda want to combine the book and the movie

As someone who has read and watched both

[paper haven]

Before you edited, my thoughts were: "Wait, read? You mean like, the screen play?"

[opaque coyote]

Lol

But seriously though

The book has some cool shit in it

But the movie is better in my opinion

Because of the parody and sarcastic tone

Hell even the sequel movie isn't bad either

It honestly carries the spirit of the first film

[opaque coyote]

Basically in the sequel movie, one of the protagonists was a veteran about to be executed

[paper haven]

The sequel movie was definitely a movie of all time

[opaque coyote]

I think his last words were like

"Murderers don't go home"

So what did the Federation do?

Call him a hero despite literally sending him to execution

Completely change his last words

[paper haven]

Basically took all the things I liked about the first movie, threw it in the trash and then made a teenager slasher flick

With super heavy satire. In case the first movie was too subtle for you

[opaque coyote]

The heavy handed satire was pretty fucking funny

But yeah the 2nd movie is worse than the 1st objectively

Still entertaining though

[paper haven]

Oh definitely

[opaque coyote]

Dax was a Chad

[paper haven]

Be sure to grow up fast, we need more meat for the grinder, says the guy dressed suspiciously similarly to an SS officer with a genuine smile while the mother literally clutches at pearls.

Actually she might have clutcched at her baby. Whatever.

[opaque coyote]

She immediately runs away too

And his last words are completely butchered

[paper haven]

The show Barry did it better.

[opaque coyote]

I guess having somebody who murdered their commanding officer for sending too many people to die isn't good for propaganda

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah also I think it's the lady who Dax actually saved

So she actually knew his last words and everything

Which is infinitely funnier

[paper haven]

I honestly can't remember, I checked out somewhere around the time all the bug people started seducing everyone else.

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah also fun fact

The reason why the made the Pulse/Laser Guns semi auto

Was because making them full auto actually hurt people's eyes

Apparently having a bunch of bright lights flashing in a dark environment might be dangerous

[paper haven]

Like- the actors?

[opaque coyote]

Ye

Well the screening but yeah

[paper haven]

Honestly, it wouldn't have surprised me if that was in-universe too.

[opaque coyote]

Lmao

[opaque coyote]

That's my new headcanon for why a lot of Lasguns are shown to be semi auto

Caused too many seizures

Oh yeah also obligatory

https://youtu.be/3cktmS-yaxM?si=9b2W31EhT2LVsVUn

Most enjoyable part of the film tbh

[paper haven]

Oh wow, this proton-proton chain reaction creating fusion barely contained less than a foot from my head sure is bright.

Better make it semi-auto instead of waering welding goggles because that'll get in the way of our post-victory photo ops.

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah also the most entertaining part of the movie was that

They censored the cow death

But not the human ones

The cow was treated with more respect than the humans

[paper haven]

Whoever came up with the idea for in universe propaganda reels was truly inspired.

[opaque coyote]

I would pay for Warhammer plus if they made an episode of Tithes was purely like

In-universe Imperium propaganda

[paper haven]

You'd think that interrupting the story to exposite directly at the audience about how awful the society is would be jarring and unimersive, but they somehow made it the best part of the movie

[opaque coyote]

Writing wise it gives a view into the wider fucked up galaxy the movie takes place in

World building

It also shows the culture

Casual movie watcher wise

It is massively entertaining

[thorn zenith]

I do love how the tv program cut and the reporter crew on Klendathu became a staple of the setting

[paper haven]

That camera guy was super dedicated to his job.

[thorn zenith]

Gotta get that killer angle on his buddy getting impaled

[lapis verge]

No wonder nobody ever dies to blaster fire in Star Wars

everyone's fucking blinded by the lights

[paper haven]

I assume that stormtrooper helmets work a bit like welding goggles, meaning that normally they can barely see anything which is why their aim is so bad.

[lapis verge]

One time I saw someone do a xray on how the Stormtrooper helmets fit on the head

the eye slots don't even line up with the eyes

Ok granted this is a meme but it looks legit

Source: trust me compadre

[crisp heath]

Storm trooper helmets actually have cameras in the lenses and the outside image is projected holographically inside the helmet

It's all electronics in there

[paper haven]

That makes sense, so I hate it

[crisp heath]

That's a canon inside picture of a storm trooper helmet

[winter vessel]

I forgot but wasn't it that each individual helmet is registered to its designated TK trooper? And that was the reason why Luke says "I can't see a thing in this helmet."

because the heads up display wasn't working for him properly?

[crisp heath]

I don't know I've never seen a star wars movie

[crisp heath]

Is true

I only know star wars from a combat engineering perspective

Don't know anything about the plot or individuals in the universe

So I'd know how most of the equipment works in a general sense but not if it's mass produced or made to order for an individual

Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader and he's Luke's dad and also Leia's dad, but I only know the latter because Luke kisses his sister and I think it's wild how chill we are about that

This is my entire knowledge of Star Wars plot

[lapis verge]

Ngl this looks neat

But wouldn't it be hell to mass-produce for a conscript army

Would make sense if it was still the Clone Army methinks

[opaque coyote]

to be fair

[languid meadow]

I assume clone armor while being better was actually easier to produce

[opaque coyote]

he did not know that

lmao

[languid meadow]

Stormtroopers can have that since they're not the main fighting force of the empire

[lapis verge]

Naturally

When 1 size fits all works on a millionth scale

[crisp heath]

Stormtroopers are a downgrade from clones but they aren't (all) conscripts

[languid meadow]

They're the marines of the empire (the real life version)

[crisp heath]

They're well trained volunteers mostly

[languid meadow]

The conscripts are the imperial army

Which are also volunteers but there they do conscript

Stormtroopers have to be selected to become one

[crisp heath]

Stormtroopers are about like tempestus scions in 40k. (What do you mean they're both called "Imperial Stormtroopers"? That's so uncreative?)

[lapis verge]

Aren't stormtroopers the rank and file soldiers in SW

[languid meadow]

No

[opaque coyote]

Nah more like Marines

[lapis verge]

Like what else is below sgormtroopers?

[opaque coyote]

Like

actual Marines

[languid meadow]

They're closer to our real life marines

[opaque coyote]

Not the SM type

[languid meadow]

The empire has an army and navy

With stormtroopers being a part of the navy

[lapis verge]

Wait SW has Marines?

How has this not shown up in any movie ever

[languid meadow]

Mf

[crisp heath]

The Stormtroopers are the marines

[languid meadow]

Stormtroopers ARE the marines

[lapis verge]

Huh

I am confusion

[languid meadow]

They're stationed on ships and bases and are used like how the US uses marines

[crisp heath]

Stormtroopers are the Empires soldiers you don't want to meet

[opaque coyote]

Stormtroopers are supposed to be elite

...

[languid meadow]

The empire have an army, they're called the imperial army

[crisp heath]

That's why they're always everywhere with important people

[opaque coyote]

Here is how the Imperial army looks apparently

[crisp heath]

The fact that stormtroopers aren't very threatening has more to do with star wars being kind of bad than what they're meant to be

[languid meadow]

These are mimbann mud troopers

[lapis verge]

Ahhh

Ok now everything makes sense

[languid meadow]

Which are army

But they are specialized

[opaque coyote]

To be fair, they did actually intentionally miss while they were chasing Luke

They were literally ordered to miss by Vader

[languid meadow]

There are even mud stormtroopers

Which are also on mimbann

[lapis verge]

No wonder stormtroopers feel like low rank soldiers

they never fucking win at ANYTHING

[lapis verge]

At least the regular Guardsman gets the odd W here and there I guess

[languid meadow]

That's why andor is peak

[lapis verge]

I should really get around to watching Andor fr fr

[languid meadow]

The only time stormtroopers really show up is when shit gets bad

[opaque coyote]

To be fair, the protagonists are often

Space Wizards

With the ability to literally manipulate your brain

With Telekinesis

etc.

[languid meadow]

Or people with armor that can resist lightsabers

[opaque coyote]

Usually the average Rebel is outmatched

[crisp heath]

I'm still in awe of how terrifying the implications of The Locked Tomb's necromancers on the battlefield and how actual combat is never a factor in that book despite being in a militaristic space empire

[languid meadow]

When they get shown in most shows and movies they're outclassed

With comics being better for them

[lapis verge]

plot-armored Space Wizards

Their Clone counterparts did the Order 66 so they shoulda been able to like get a W once every 10 decades or smth

[opaque coyote]

Also makes Leia much more based tbh

[lapis verge]

Wait that reminds me

Speaking of armor and such...
How effective is the regular Guardsman's armor?

[languid meadow]

I think it depends

[opaque coyote]

Flak is actually durable and better than Kevlar in lore

So in practice, they might as well be fucking naked

[lapis verge]

Sure it means jack shit against Necrons or Tau or Nids

But against cults and gangs with small arms, how well does it fare?

[languid meadow]

Like against a normal xenos civ and not one of the big ones, probably pretty well

[opaque coyote]

Actually pretty well

[lapis verge]

So the Sisters Penitent got the right idea

No armor means light on your feet. Smart.

~ Skyrim Guard

[crisp heath]

The average guardsman would be a well-equipped elite in almost any sci fi universe, but in 40k they're basically useless except in large numbers.

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, they probably do. If you're up against like Necrons or Chaos or something

you might as well be as light on your feet as possible

The Pentient Engine is fucking stupid though

Like I get the idea

[crisp heath]

Don't underestimate chaos cults

[opaque coyote]

But I think it's a bit too stupid even for the Imperium

Like the pilot is RIGHT THERE

In front of the enemy

They can easily just

blam

[crisp heath]

Depending on what mutations they get and if they have a sorceror, a chaos cult can easily wipe out a regiment or two

[opaque coyote]

And the mech is fucking useless

Cause the "pilot" is dead

[lapis verge]

Ofc

What I mean is the average gun-wielding cultist and the like

Obviously if someone decides to mutate or summon a Daemon you're beyond sixty shades of fucked

[opaque coyote]

Honestly think it would make more sense if the Pentient Engine was like

A robot with a rudimentary AI (don't tell the mechanicus)

and the "offender" is just attached to them

Instead of needing the offender to have it actually work

[lapis verge]

Tbh if the pilot was encased in a coffin it'd be better

Like Dreadnoughts, but more mini

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think there's a version of the pentient engine where it is

They're basically encased in a coffin of spikes

[lapis verge]

Tho I can see why it would look like the Penitent is revered instead of being punished

[opaque coyote]

very painful

it's honestly the version I prefer

Instead of having the pentient user in the open

Because it actually requires somebody to pilot it

and the pilot is in the open

with their entire body exposed

So you can just

shoot them

[lapis verge]

I see it like the Butcher's Nails Lite no

The pain inflicted on the offender's psyche is what makes them raving mad and become akin to a berserker

[opaque coyote]

and the mech is literally useless

[modern rapids]

Does the Imperial faith include any kind of belief of an after life? Heaven/Hell?

[opaque coyote]

You go to the Emperor if you're pious

He saves your soul

If you don't

well it's kinda fucking obvious judging from the daemons

and the warp

As for what actually happens

It's a fucking lottery

We don't really know either

[dense lynx]

not really, it depends

[opaque coyote]

Just like real life

[opaque coyote]

IK, he's asking about the Imperial faith

[dense lynx]

a lot of people just have their souls eaten immediately by daemons

[dense lynx]

ah, then by their religion yes, they go to the emperors throne

[opaque coyote]

Psykers do, but in general you just sort of

disappear

[modern rapids]

Is there any further detail to it? Is afterlife a Valhalla type thing for warriors, Spacemarines etc.?

[opaque coyote]

A drop of water in an endless ocean

[dense lynx]

to an extent, psykers are the most notable but even normal humans will often get eaten

[opaque coyote]

True

[dense lynx]

tau just disappear though

as they have minimal warp presence

[opaque coyote]

The Emperor does take souls. Mostly those that are useful

I like to think he tries to save as many as possible

But it's unknown

and tbf, he's a dick.

So he might not lo

[opaque coyote]

I don't think there's much detail

Especially since each planet worships the Emperor differently

Like some believe he's a Sun God

Others a warrior god

[jade holly]

Who isn’t in 40k

[opaque coyote]

etc. etc.

[jade holly]

[opaque coyote]

So it depends on what planet you're born in

There are basically

possibly millions of variations on the imperial faith

The only commonality being

The Emperor is the one true god

[opaque coyote]

Yeah for regular humans

Lasts like a second

You get eaten

You feel pain

And then oblivion

For psykers

Takes a while

[dense lynx]

depends on the psyker

some extremely rare, powerful psykers are able to create a kind of afterlife for themselves

where it’s more of a purgatory instead of hell

[modern rapids]

Huh? Didnt you just say he tries to save as many as possible lol

[modern rapids]

I see

[opaque coyote]

We don't know

It's more my headcanon tbh

It could be that he saves as many people as possible

Or he only picks the important ones and leaves the rest to suffer

[rocky gale]

[paper haven]

Iron warriors call artillery bombardments on their own guys just to catch the enemy off guard. A few dead word bearers is probably considered a bonus to them.

[vast crystal]

Is gw actually moving away from the more "grimdark" aspects of 40k?

Because if so I think it a good call on their end

[vast crystal]

(Don't trust anything I say after 1am)

[storm jungle]

The Emperor doesnt save anyone, he only handpicks individuals among billions who might be worth something like Living Saints

[storm jungle]

Thats more just a conspiracy people say from not reading books, theres plenty of dark stuff constantly in 40k media.

[arctic talon]

Absolutely not lol

If anything GW has had a lot more fun with more fucked up stuff recently

lol

Like what the Red Corsairs did to Jubal Khan

[celest dome]

Same people that say Warhammer is becoming woke

[storm jungle]

^ lol

[vast crystal]

becoming
Those people are definitely something

[queen laurel]

they are the type to think warhammer should cater to them and only them

and they genuinely probably again do not read books

I say this is a guy that don't read much of warhammer but like you can at least try to still Fact Check your things

[vast crystal]

Likewise

The only thing I really read is wiki articles

[queen laurel]

i suggest reading Lexicanum for lore

Wiki is just completely copy and pasting

There are times where we have something that the Lexi doesn't but it's very rare for that to happen

[vast crystal]

Why are there two separate wikis?

Is it just the plagiarism thing?

[queen laurel]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page I don't know the answer to that but this website is trusted by people here a lot more and i agree with

they research and explain things in a more concise way without basically copy pasting every single source they see

There are times where info on the wiki is a lot more useful but you know again I say this is very rare

[vast crystal]

It also isn't fandom

[queen laurel]

yeah these guys copy and paste a lot

very rarely do they try to explain things on their own words, they copy and paste everything in the books and then

[vast crystal]

The James somoriton of wiki pages

[queen laurel]

that's it

[fickle wyvern]

Fandom is so bad Ngl. It used to be somewhat decent and now it’s barely functioning on mobile either ads covering half you screen and on pc it’s just worse than a basic google search. And the communities around it suck too.

[vast crystal]

Fuck fandom

All my homies hate fandom

[vast crystal]

They should probably just make their own setting then

[queen laurel]

i agree i only use fandom when it's not for warhammer

i stick to lexicanum for warhammer lore

[vast crystal]

My general advice to anyone. Regardless of anything. Is that if you don't like the direction something is going in. That's your que to open a document and start writing

I say this sincerely

It doesn't matter why

[remote widget]

I believe we call them black templar purists

[storm jungle]

I legit cannot get over how 95% of black templar fans are some form of fascist or racist

its legit tiring how its always true

ive never seen a stereotype be this solid 💀

[vast crystal]

Are marines malevolent stans actually worse?

[fickle wyvern]

Never battled a black Templar player on tabletop cuz my local game stores are mostly orks and guard. Are they actually crazy?

[vast crystal]

Yes

Online anyway

[storm jungle]

Yes. I was helping out a friend only who was getting constant "jokey" grape threats from a shitposter 40k dude and i go to his account

[vagrant fox]

I love the Black Templars and I stay away from most people who like them

[storm jungle]

and what do i fucking see?

"look at my black templar army guys, its almost done!"

[celest dome]

Nah, they're dastardly, but not that bad in comparison

[storm jungle]

^

Marine Malevolents are straight up monsters and that makes them funny.

[queen laurel]

Brother Templar Eli you are seeing this i am so sorry

[storm jungle]

its like chaos marine fans

"Yeah our faction kills and slaughters innocent people and we LOVE IT"

[remote widget]

"B-bb-but femstodes are wrong and look ugly and woke evil , tourist gw made it all up because ill only accept mega boobystodes"

[fickle wyvern]

Ngl those ppl need to be playing bolt action Germans so they can cosplay as their leader units

[vast crystal]

Oh. So I'm safe then?

[remote widget]

• average BT player

[celest dome]

And their fans love them for what they are.
BT love theirs cause they are what they want to be

[vast crystal]

Yaaay

[queen laurel]

It's a common consensus in the warhammer community that if you like an evil faction you just like them to have because you like fun

[storm jungle]

My stance is you can like any faction in 40k, just dont try to defend them as being "good guys". Some moral gymnastics is fine unless the subject itself is legit ridiculous

[queen laurel]

of course there is also you know people in there but every single faction has one

[remote widget]

Don't forget the krieg players, that're almost always only running them AND BT

[vast crystal]

You'd have to miss the point entirely to do that

[vagrant fox]

Many seem to

[queen laurel]

when people say orks are good guys i gain a sudden ability to tear apart steel

[fickle wyvern]

My brother argued eldar are the good guys for like 15 minutes straight with me the other day

[vast crystal]

Something Something Satire is dying because people are too stupid to get it Something Something

[storm jungle]

Eldar are prob the most morally understandable faction but they still do pretty evil stuff, its more to defend their people more than genocide half the time.

no one is innocent

[remote widget]

What do you mean, my blue boys are perfect saints who only use mind control on the populace to make anime mechs even cooler to their populace, @storm jungle -san

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[fickle wyvern]

No like prime eldar. The ones who’s excessively wild things caused a whole add chaos god.

[storm jungle]

OH LMFAO

[vast crystal]

Some just make more interesting protagonists than others

[storm jungle]

Bro even current Eldar say their death was good riddance 💀

[queen laurel]

they are also so arrogant that they think that they are almost always right

I mean yes you guys can read the future but that doesn't stop you from getting your head kicked in now doesn't it

[vagrant fox]

But craftworlders are Amish cranked to 11 you can't trust them

[vast crystal]

You can't trust anyone tbf

[vagrant fox]

Truly the Eldar empire was peak good with the whole hedonism thing

And killing and that

[remote widget]

Jokaero? They just vibing

[fickle wyvern]

He also huffs the “isha comes back and eldar get a good book series” copium eldar players have.

[storm jungle]

To be fair that is more understandable

Eldar fans have been getting shafted for 30 years

[vast crystal]

Me when the race who created a whole chaos god through unspeakable acts of depravity are somehow "the good guys" in a setting fulled with nothing but unhinged lunatics of different varieties

[vagrant fox]

I started as an Eldar fan and gave up

[remote widget]

Well yall shouldn't have lost the mantle of responsibility... oops wrong scifi series

[vagrant fox]

Do they do anything besides make weapons?

[fickle wyvern]

Yeah. They get like 4 books and they lose in all of them. With one book having the death watch stroll up and pull a funni

[storm jungle]

They basically chill and invent

like, invent anything

they are literally here for the vibes

[vagrant fox]

Remember that one C.S. Goto book where children destroy an Eldar vehicle with sticks and rocks

[queen laurel]

I will say this and I will say it again until I die GW has a weird psychosexual need to slam dunk them for some reason

[fickle wyvern]

The 3 times they come close to doing something a random faction comes in and completely ruins it. It’s just martial law at this point.

[remote widget]

They can make quite nearly anything, I'm pretty surprised cawl doesn't just throw them at problems like pokeballs

[vast crystal]

They hate elf's

Which is understandable

I also hate elf's

[storm jungle]

shut up lol

[remote widget]

The first "---- of mars" book, a chaplain solos the avatar of khaine, I believe

[vast crystal]

/s or /srs?

[queen laurel]

you say that but in aos they get respected

in warhammer

40k

[fickle wyvern]

The tabletop gets shafted too for eldar. The corsair model’s have the wrong leader (their tabletop leader isn’t their phoenix lord but just some random guy.)

[storm jungle]

https://imgur.com/hD4RxfA

[queen laurel]

they get shafted harder than a bully throws someone in a locker

[vast crystal]

The 40k writers hate elf's

Again

Completely understandable

[queen laurel]

don't worry because the dwarves as well are getting a piece of that gav thorpe pie

[fickle wyvern]

Just checked mutual servers and checks out. A fellow dwarf from hoxxes.

[fickle wyvern]

Karl drg?

[queen laurel]

yep their first book is gonna be made by him

[vast crystal]

ROCK AND STONE

[queen laurel]

you better shut the fuck up before i fry your ass and make fish fillet

[fickle wyvern]

Their cooked the death watch are boutta wipe out the votann’s heart machine things

[vast crystal]

So your actually mad at me then? Ok

[vast crystal]

I assume that's a bad thing?

[queen laurel]

Gav made the Ynnari series

[fickle wyvern]

Very bad

Like he is the second coming of Matt ward

[queen laurel]

the plotline that you know went nowhere

[fickle wyvern]

Legit went backwards

[vast crystal]

Look I'm gonna be honest. I don't care

[fickle wyvern]

If you like votann he will make you not like them.

[vast crystal]

I do and I can't read

[rocky gale]

I’ve a book that can help with that

[storm jungle]

How is a gif of an ogryn stabbing someone in the balls me being mad at you 💀

[rocky gale]

The London hello

[storm jungle]

Me @ yohan rn

https://tenor.com/view/cat-missile-explosion-kitten-baby-gif-12020335096465661960

[vast crystal]

You didn't answer the question. And I assumed you where being passive aggressive about it

[fickle wyvern]

Which cleaver is ur fav I like the big one

[queen laurel]

i mean aiming for the balls in the male language is the equivalent of agreeing with chaos in the imperium

[vast crystal]

What is it

[vast crystal]

I regret to inform you I'm not a man

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/movies-the-heat-melissa-mccarthy-book-throw-the-book-gif-14851681

[celest dome]

Well Thorpe's dwarf novels in fantasy aren't that bad

[storm jungle]

Well yeah im at work

[rocky gale]

I’m on break

[queen laurel]

I mean making personalities for people that literally eat rock hard bread isn't hard

[rocky gale]

So I’m just here to make fun of people

[fickle wyvern]

I’m on fall break and super depressed

[vagrant fox]

Looking at the lexicanum I swear most of this lore stuff wasn't around Dawn of War 1 times, Cawl needs a jokaero farm

[celest dome]

That would be very difficult logistic wise

[vast crystal]

I'm in-between jobs and in constant pain

[rocky gale]

I’ve 5 more minutes of mockery before I got to get back to work

[celest dome]

Like we have cow farms cause they are easy to herd, Jokaero are much more astute than we are

[queen laurel]

they can probably disassemble the walls in like 5 minutes tops

10 if we put extra effort in

[fickle wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/simple-shrimple-shrimple-gif-its-really-that-shrimple-not-so-shrimple-now-gif-26259869

[vagrant fox]

Bribe them with bananas or whatever, entire worlds of suffering would be dedicated to it so it's grimdark

[rocky gale]

It’s the great philosophical question, could a Jokaero build a farm so well that a Jokaero couldn’t escape it

[queen laurel]

what the kark do you think they are a donkey kong?

[fickle wyvern]

We can build buildings so well that a us couldn’t escape it

[celest dome]

Not just disassemble it, but use it to make a space ship and leave you in the dust

[queen laurel]

Probably they know themselves best

[rocky gale]

I could

[celest dome]

Given time the Jokaero would be able to escape

It would only delay the inevitable

[fickle wyvern]

Aren’t jokaero’s the funny monkey things?

With cybernetic parts

[rocky gale]

A constant arms race of Jokaero trying to escape while another team of Jokaero are constantly upgrading the defences

[vagrant fox]

Depends on how sapient they are, I'd just like to see them throw a monkey wrench into Mechanicus plans or society

[vast crystal]

To be fr I'm probably just gonna ignore that it exists

[storm jungle]

Excuse me

the correct term is Orangutan

https://tenor.com/view/oranguta-pointing-finger-monkey-point-orangutan-pointing-gmmie-dat-gif-7875829125779956393

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-monke-weebpo-gif-20749035

[vagrant fox]

Old ones visited Earth, orangutans look like jokarro and eldar look a bit like humans. Coincidence?

[opaque coyote]

Fun fact

[fickle wyvern]

My sincerest cenapologies

[opaque coyote]

Eldar are actually Gav's favorite race apparently

So maybe he would write the dwarves well

[fickle wyvern]

🧢🧢🧢

[opaque coyote]

In a sort of weird

Logic

He enjoys writing a race so he makes them suffer

So if he doesn't enjoy writing another race

Maaaybe they will be treated well!

[opaque coyote]

Not joking on that btw

He literally stated it

[fickle wyvern]

Thrope lying out his throatpe

[opaque coyote]

I think he even collects Eldar figures himself

So uh

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

It's like how fanfic writers are like

[fickle wyvern]

He collects them so he can throw games at tournaments and lower their win rate

[opaque coyote]

'Oh man I love these characters!"

[storm jungle]

Basically

hes great at worldbuilding with eldar

[opaque coyote]

"Welp time to write them getting unreversable trauma"

[storm jungle]

when it comes to action tho he sucks ass because the message is "they are a dying race"

he was doing this shit in Warhammer Fantasy too

[fickle wyvern]

Kinda makes sense

[opaque coyote]

Even though just because they're dying

Doesn't mean they're incompetent

[vast crystal]

I unironically want to see a 40k end times at some point

I know it's never happening

But I'm allowed to dream right?

[fickle wyvern]

FLAY THINESELF HERETIC!!!

[opaque coyote]

I remember a fanfic where essentially something like that happens

It ends with the last human

[fickle wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/storm-lightning-thunder-and-gif-14505668

[opaque coyote]

With a bunch of embyros hovering over a recovered Terra

Basically thinking about whether he should reseed the Earth

Or if he just...

Let it all go

[celest dome]

I mean, if it's to have an AoS quality of model and faction getting equal attention...

[vast crystal]

It is

[opaque coyote]

It ends with him spinning a bottle to see

And the result is up to the reader

[fickle wyvern]

Sounds like a weird fetish

[vast crystal]

Send it

[opaque coyote]

I forgot the name

Give me a sec

[vast crystal]

immediately assumes it's a sex thing

[storm jungle]

this put replace Kojima with Gamesworkshop

[vast crystal]

Ofd

[vagrant fox]

Just a crumb of a w and not playing second fiddle to the Imperium for the Eldar I beg

[fickle wyvern]

Bruh reseeding the earth is a sex thing how tf u think we make more people?

[vast crystal]

Odd for you to assume the author wrote that with one hand

Maybe that's just a you thing

[fickle wyvern]

Cuz I know some writers are weird asf. After a certain point you just immediately assume the worst of writers.

[vast crystal]

Especially considering it's based of someone else description of it

[fickle wyvern]

(It’s a me thing 100%)

[storm jungle]

S n e e d

[vast crystal]

Don't like? Don't read!

[fickle wyvern]

Like the Lorax?

[vast crystal]

Formerly chucks

[fickle wyvern]

I must read. I have an urge to read All words presented before my eyes that I can read.

[vast crystal]

I should get to work on my homebrew chapter