40k-lore-chat

[outer wave]

I dunno if I like the usage of nice in this context

[arctic talon]

well

bone can be painted wonderfully lol

[outer wave]

No no you're right

[arctic talon]

but yeah

its pretty gross in this context

[crisp heath]

aren´t bones actually more like a pinkish tone though?

[arctic talon]

yes

[crisp heath]

not that that doesn´t mean we don´t think they´re white

[arctic talon]

But people associated that ivory/bleached color with bones

because thats how you see human bones a lot of the time

[crisp heath]

i uhhhh

i´ve never seen human bones don´t think

lol

[arctic talon]

well

[crisp heath]

[arctic talon]

surely you've seen like

a diagram in a science book smh

those aren't pink

generally

[crisp heath]

you´re sounding more and more like you´re talking yourself out of something very dark....

[arctic talon]

no smh

stuff like this is what I mean

lol

[crisp heath]

idk i think i don´t want to be alone with you on the next darktide server meetup...i still need my bones....

[storm jungle]

why are you creeped out by Elite

you ARE aware theres a skeleton ALREADY inside you right

like a xenomorph egg its waiting to break free

[crisp heath]

haha nice try

skelingtons arent real

[arctic talon]

I like symbols with meaning in fictional settings tbh

[dusk patrol]

Damn I got spooked

[arctic talon]

Like how the ununified piltover and zaun symbols seem seperate

but they layer ontop of each other

like the cities

[crisp heath]

so you mean meaning that is derived from the world of the artwork itself?

[arctic talon]

yes

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-gif-7492450338569660588

[arctic talon]

I like seeing the thought design

based on the lore of a setting for symbols

there's also the fact the Piltover symbol goes over the zaun symbol as well

[storm jungle]

PILTOVER/ZAUN SWEEP

🗣️

[arctic talon]

which has another meaning of Piltover being the "seen" and Zaun being "unseen"

despite the fact they're a single united nation

[crisp heath]

i´m just thinking about how i like how the nurgle symbol is derived from the real-world biohazard symbol and the order of our martyred lady insignia is derived from the symbol for "feminine"

sumthin 2 think aboot! now i will shower.

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/O617ZHcazwA?si=QE7K5PAJdSHTEy4Y

Damn Captain America must have more adamantium than his shield

His balls are also made out of it

Bro literally punched Hulk in the face

He got beaten to shit too but

God damn he did last a while

[arctic talon]

ironically my least favorite Region on runeterra, I still like them quite a bit though

[dusk patrol]

Gets a little overexposed

Also like “oh wow the ivory tower vs poors, how…..interesting and unique”

[opaque coyote]

Actually since I'm bored

Fuck it

Favorite Superhero?

I like Batman

[storm jungle]

Punisher

[dusk patrol]

My mom

[storm jungle]

strangely wholesome

[opaque coyote]

Nice

[storm jungle]

but also

[near wasp]

The tick

[dusk patrol]

No that’s lame and cringe

[storm jungle]

any excuse to post Jon Bernthal

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-gif-18379951

[opaque coyote]

I like rich man punching people

[dusk patrol]

Uh Punisher is cool, Moon Knight is pretty cool

I could be edgy and say Dr Doom

[opaque coyote]

I think it's really funny that most of the moon knight meme images are just

Not true at all. They're completely made up

And we've

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/only-doom-animated-villain-gif-10411972

[storm jungle]

its not being edgy tbh

Doom is great because hes just a smart dickhead

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/the-tick-coffee-gif-27076010

[storm jungle]

hes funny because hes OP

[opaque coyote]

Basically gaslit some people into thinking Moon Knight is just a crazier deadpool

[storm jungle]

its why people love him

[arctic talon]

Its more interesting later on when both cities are "equal" so to speak, Arcane is imo in the least interesting period of it lol regarding the cities themselves

[dusk patrol]

He’s sometimes sorta the hero

[dusk patrol]

Yeah definitely

[opaque coyote]

Dr. Doom would genuinely be a hero if he didn't have an ego to rival the fucking multiverse

[storm jungle]

I love that side since it makes him less generic

guy would cure cancer just to get one on Richards

and i just respect that tbh

No.1 Prime Hater

[dusk patrol]

He’s a competitive hater

[storm jungle]

THE literal term

[opaque coyote]

Dr. Doom vs Reverse Flash

Who hates the most?

[storm jungle]

Doom.

He literally killed himself in another universe for being friends with Richards

[dusk patrol]

In a universe with Red Skull, it’s a tough competition

[arctic talon]

Superman

I'm a basic bitch

[storm jungle]

I mean

[dusk patrol]

Wow actually cringe

[arctic talon]

Damn straight

[storm jungle]

people have been ranting on superman for being basic for years

then realised "wow hes actually great"

[arctic talon]

I WEAR MY CRINGE WITH PRIDE

[dusk patrol]

Imagine liking a popular answer

[opaque coyote]

Reverse Flash did make Barry's childhood worse in so many ways

In fact, the reason why Barry has a tragic backstory IS because of Reverse Flash

[arctic talon]

ikr

[dusk patrol]

We only accept somewhat niche normie takes here

[opaque coyote]

He basically made his life even worse

[arctic talon]

Reverse Flash is fucking hilarious

Literal #1 hater

Doom is close

[dusk patrol]

Reverse flash takes it because it’s his entire life

Doom does do other things

[storm jungle]

I simply like Punisher because he just kills criminals and its funny when superheroes with dumb moral codes gets mad at his actions.

"NOOO YOU CANT KILL RAPISTS THATS WRONG"

also hes a psychopath

which is based

[opaque coyote]

Which is why Dr. Doom unfortunately loses the hater contest.

He actually has other hobbies

[dusk patrol]

Shame really

[opaque coyote]

Even when losing, Dr. Doom is based

[arctic talon]

The whole zaunite sucession thing into its own Nation is fun in Arcane

[dusk patrol]

Also that time he went to hell and fought his way out making armor out of daemon skins was cool

[opaque coyote]

He managed a kingdom

[arctic talon]

because that happens in the future again

as an idea

[opaque coyote]

And he unironically manages it well

Everyone is genuinely

Happy in there

[dusk patrol]

It’s a pretty decent place to live

[arctic talon]

and it has actual legs because Zaun is far more established as an actual city state

unlike in Arcane where its uh

[opaque coyote]

He doesn't even rule it like a dictator. They're allowed to travel out and move somewhere else

[arctic talon]

still very much dependent on Piltover

[opaque coyote]

Dr. Doom is so egotistical

He managed to avoid the classic dictator trappings?

Why

[arctic talon]

because

[arctic talon]

being a bad leader is lame

[opaque coyote]

Because his ego won't allow his kingdom to be bad

[arctic talon]

Doom must rule well

[opaque coyote]

He needs it to be good

[dusk patrol]

There’s examples of good dictators in history tbh

[opaque coyote]

To have good infrastructure

[dusk patrol]

It’s just rare and rarely ends well

[opaque coyote]

True, they just don't last long

But Dr. Doom is an exception

Because he's fucking Dr. Doom

[dusk patrol]

If we theoretically could have some perfect person to rule the planet who lives forever and always made the gift choice that would be dope but you know

That’s not really an objective thing

New Monarchy vibes

[storm jungle]

Atatürk lets gooooo

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think his original backstory was that one of his tragedies was that his mother was a Witch

Like an actual Witch

[storm jungle]

also like

[dusk patrol]

The one Singapore guy is a good example

[opaque coyote]

And she died and went to Hell

[storm jungle]

romanian gypsies

[dusk patrol]

If a fairly good dictator

[storm jungle]

so it didnt end well for them

💀

[arctic talon]

Singapore is a benevolent dictatorship

or rather was

now its a benevolant oligarchy

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

The project that Dr. Doom asked Richard to help with

Was actually to save his Mom from Hell

[dusk patrol]

It works, not perfect but

[opaque coyote]

So that's why he was mad

[arctic talon]

its just extremely brutal when it comes to like

crimes and drugs but it is like

[dusk patrol]

No doobies

[arctic talon]

not a bad place to live

[opaque coyote]

Doesn't it fine people for suicide also

Like

[arctic talon]

If they live

and only certian types

💀

[dusk patrol]

It does help with Latveria too that the leaders prior sucked so hard

[arctic talon]

its for "risking" others

[opaque coyote]

Yeah nah that's just stupid

[dusk patrol]

So Doom taking over was a huge improvement

[arctic talon]

mhm

[opaque coyote]

That would just make them do it again

[arctic talon]

real

[opaque coyote]

attempts suicide because of crippling debt

wake up in hospital

fined for attempted suicide

[dusk patrol]

Doom took it from some shithole Eastern European brutal dictatorship to a world leader in tech, with zero crime and insanely well protected borders.

[opaque coyote]

Latveria was basically like East Germany except worse

Much worse

[dusk patrol]

As well as super good public amenities

[opaque coyote]

I mean people literally lived in huts

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it sucked

His whole campaign to take over it is pretty cool

[arctic talon]

goes hard tbh

[opaque coyote]

Also that one time where Dr. Doom went to the beginning of the Earth to learn all the magic he could

But because he didn't have a way to go forward

The motherfucker

waited

[crisp heath]

le platonic philosopher king face

[dusk patrol]

He goes to bat for Latverians too

Iirc he sends some doom bot with a flawless legal defense to get one out of prison or something

And it was gonna break him out if it didn’t work lol

[opaque coyote]

Dr. Doom takes care of his citizens

[dusk patrol]

He does care

Which is nice

He’s just also arrogant and evil and kinda crazy

[opaque coyote]

Honestly if he was just the ruler of Latveria

He would be an unironic hero

But he also does things like try to take over the world

[dusk patrol]

And it is 100% his way or the highway

[opaque coyote]

So

[opaque coyote]

Dr. Doom when someone has an opinion that is 0.1% different

https://tenor.com/view/wrath-of-doctor-gif-25718699

[dusk patrol]

I hope they juxposition Latveria and Wakanda

I always love when the two interact.

Very similar concepts of small powerful countries.

[opaque coyote]

"Adamantium is the rarest element in the world."

Meanwhile Wakanda

"So that's a package of adamantium forks for $1"

[opaque coyote]

DC also has two fictional countries that are interesting

There is a city of

sapient gorillas

that's overly futuristic

because DC loves gorillas

[languid meadow]

gorilla grod is peak

[opaque coyote]

and also Themyscria

[arctic talon]

ngl

whenever I hear gorilla grod

I think about

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I feel like people still don't know how to handle Wonder Woman

[opaque coyote]

Despite it being years since it's inception

[dusk patrol]

I always love this bit

[arctic talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzPQkm9_tPc

[arctic talon]

I have no clue what this is from

but I can't unthink of it now

[opaque coyote]

It is an interesting quandry tbh

Is it worth utopia, if the means to get it are so horrible

[dusk patrol]

Legends of Tommorrow

And uh yeah

It was.....an idea.

[arctic talon]

its

a thing

[dusk patrol]

Also they inspire George Lucas to make Star Wars at one point

[opaque coyote]

Also that Panther is 100% having a 1000 yard stare in that panel

[dusk patrol]

The writers were uh

Feeling themselves maybe a bit too much

https://tenor.com/view/ian-malcolm-jurassic-park-preoccupied-gif-14303484

[languid meadow]

peak 2018 writing

[opaque coyote]

Although now I have to wonder

[arctic talon]

what even is the context

behind Grod trying to kill Obama

[dusk patrol]

In one episode the Earth gets turned into a bowling ball and they have to go to a bowling alley floating in space to beat a group of aliens in a bowling match to get the earth back.

[arctic talon]

Huh

[opaque coyote]

Would transfems be allowed on Themyscria or would they be executed

Since traditionally, in wonder woman comics, any man who goes on the island dies

But transfems are women

So

[languid meadow]

so he could conquer it since no obama means weak america

[dusk patrol]

Somehow I think the amazonians who kill men for existing might not be super tolerant.

[arctic talon]

^

yeah honestly

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Huh

okay then

I guess

[opaque coyote]

Wonder Woman is basically the most chill one

[languid meadow]

yeah that's the plot

[opaque coyote]

Most of the time anyways

cough INJUSTICE cough

[dusk patrol]

But DC would probably be cowards and make them super tolerant smh

[languid meadow]

idk live action DC makes no sense most of the time

[opaque coyote]

I honestly think it would be more interesting if initally they weren't

But Wonder Woman changed them

to become more tolerant

Because she's supposed to be a hero

Shocking I know

[dusk patrol]

Idk, its also not like they're taking volunteers much.

They're super isolationist.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah true

Although the pilot that Wonder Woman meets usually survives

so

there's that

[dusk patrol]

That's basically the only scene, its to weaken America, the main thing is just Grodd time traveling.

[opaque coyote]

Some interpretations have different ways she goes out into ""man's world""

[arctic talon]

I see

so Grod is like

just time traveling to do things

[dusk patrol]

He needed to make sure his key agents didn't get droned striked in the early 2010s

[opaque coyote]

I remember JLU having Wonder Woman basically run away from the island because there was an Alien Invasion

[dusk patrol]

Grodd was on Snowden's side actually.

[opaque coyote]

And so she wanted to protect the Earth

[dusk patrol]

Yeah generally they're not really nice people.

Literally stuck in their ancient ways.

[opaque coyote]

Yup, I think it's an interesting conundrum

But to be honest I'm not that interested in reading wonder woman comics

ffs I only read select ones because

I can't imagine being a "serious" comic fan and picking up the newest spiderman issue

Marvel editoral, why?

[languid meadow]

ultimate spider man?

idk I heard it was decent

has one of the best parker designs ngl

[dusk patrol]

Oh yeah I forgot Grodd got the speedforce in the CW universe.

[storm jungle]

didnt he uh

try to assassinate barack obama

💀

[languid meadow]

yeah

[dusk patrol]

Yeah we were just talking about that

He literally says "Its time to make America Grodd again"

Someone wrote that line

And multiple people signed off on it and someone sat in a booth and said it

[languid meadow]

hey man pre 2020 was a different time

[dusk patrol]

Then they animated a gorilla telepathically saying that to an actor playing Obama.

And released it.

[crisp heath]

sometimes i just open this channel and my eye finds things like this without any context

happens 70% of the time

[storm jungle]

Absolutely based

[crystal forum]

obamna

[dusk patrol]

God dude imagine being an actor on these sets.

And you have to say this shit with conviction, actually impressive as hell.

[crystal forum]

as long as i get paid whatever millions they make

[dusk patrol]

Take off a couple zeroes there for most

But yeah

[crystal forum]

dude i'd say it for 1000$

[languid meadow]

a 1000 bucks is a 1000 bucks

[storm jungle]

its the "background actor" logic

id legit accept 10 bucks just to be in these sets

and say some dumbass line

its so fun lmao

[dusk patrol]

I don't get how these shows made money thinking of it.

They had a huge cast.

[crystal forum]

throw money at stuff until popular show

[dusk patrol]

Obviously they did because it ran for like 7 seasons or whatever.

Arrowverse is wild.

[storm jungle]

7 FUCKING SEASONS?

THE FUCK

[dusk patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZrSiCso9pU

This shit really actually amazes me, they get paid well for it but

dear lord.

[storm jungle]

I legit could not do this out of embarrassment

[dusk patrol]

The Flash actor was making fucking bank.

[storm jungle]

major props to these people

[dusk patrol]

Also while tihs one looks ok, so many times the CGI looked like complete shit

[crystal forum]

i couldn't be a superhero actor because holy shit you need to be constantly fully jacked

[dusk patrol]

And they just have to trust itll look fine.

[crystal forum]

have you seen hugh jackman

[dusk patrol]

Well, some people do

[crystal forum]

this guy's like elderly

[dusk patrol]

Its mostly for like one or two scenes.

He wasn't looking like that most of production

Same for like, Henry Cavill and the Geralt sex scenes or bath scene.

They plan those a head of time and film them then they get to eat.

Its so unhealthy.

[crystal forum]

oh right and the weight loss that shit is not healthy

[dusk patrol]

They literally dehydrate themselves for it

[crystal forum]

they prob do steroids too let's be honest

[arctic talon]

Actually I just wondered is there a name for the artstyle that's like most of the way there to realistic, but like not exactly realistic. Like the "artstyle" used for Final Fantasy 7's remakes lol

[dusk patrol]

Cavill talks about how he had to film that bath scene while he was insanely thirsty for water.

[arctic talon]

Because I feel like the recent 40k stuff

also falls into that territory of like most of the way realistic

[dusk patrol]

Hyperrealistic?

[arctic talon]

but like not exactly realistic

[crystal forum]

so fucked up

[dusk patrol]

Hyper realism? idk

[arctic talon]

I think so?

[dusk patrol]

I do think it fucks with a lot of guys brains.

[crystal forum]

photorealistic idk

[arctic talon]

yeah

I guess thats most accurate

[dusk patrol]

Not that you shouldn't aspire to look fit and healthly but the stuff you see in a lot of movies these days is basically all roids, careful specific dieting and isn't there after that scene largely.

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crisp heath]

what do you mean

[arctic talon]

The stuff actors do to get muscle definition is insane

boarding on like

suicidal

[dusk patrol]

Those guys don't look like that normally

[arctic talon]

Actors dehydrate themselves and such for shots

in movies

[crisp heath]

do you just mean starve for a day to film the scene or starve for months to lose weight

[arctic talon]

so their muscles are more dfined

[dusk patrol]

They'll literally not eat, and dehydrate themselves for those insane ab shots or whatever

[crisp heath]

what? but what does that do

[arctic talon]

both

[dusk patrol]

Makes the skin stick to muscles more.

[crisp heath]

oh okay. i didnt know that.

[dusk patrol]

If you drink a lot of water it can make you bloat a ton.

[storm jungle]

yeah its incredibly demanding

and like extremely icky in some movies lol

[crisp heath]

good to know

[crystal forum]

smh a little chub isn't bad

good for cuddling

[dusk patrol]

Anyways yes its, idk. I think eventually we'll move past it but its just kinda messed up the ideal it sets for people.

Obviously there's a lot you can do to make yourself look better but its very extreme these days.

For men and women.

[crisp heath]

did you ever go to one of those rateme subreddits? complete supermodels get rated like 5/10 lmfao

[dusk patrol]

Yeah those places are just

Weird

[crisp heath]

if you rate someone 8/10, your rating gets removed for being too high

half the women are actually men wearing dresses according to them

[dusk patrol]

They have such a weird "standards" list its so goofy.

[crystal forum]

everybody's ugly i hate people

[crisp heath]

i´ve looked at some of the commenters profiles and there´s this guy who has been there basically all day every day for months

like

[dusk patrol]

Like I get not everyone finds certain looks attractive or whatever and theres subjectivity to it but its just rating low to like

rate low.

[crisp heath]

how hollow does your life AND soul have to be

[dusk patrol]

Its pathetic either way

[crisp heath]

i´m sure you´re all very beautiful even if i can´t see you 🌞

[dusk patrol]

I'm not but thank you

[crystal forum]

i disagree with eternal

[crisp heath]

😦

[outer wave]

I agree that I'm a handsome lad

Now talking to me might be a different subject matter

[dusk patrol]

That being said, I also think there's no consistency in what people find attractive and how so I'm not too worried.

[crystal forum]

straight people need help

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/venture-overwatch-fax-gif-6772232839396133350

[dusk patrol]

Unironically its pretty easy being a guy, just dress halfway decent, get a haircut, shower shave and deodorant.

You're already beating like 70% of the dating pool doing that.

[outer wave]

I enjoy my sweat pants too much

[dusk patrol]

Thats the trick, you only have to dress nice sometimes to trick a girl into thinking you dress nice a lot. Then once shes interested, its too late.

Sports shorts and sweat pants.

[outer wave]

Fuck yeah

[crystal forum]

get a nice polo

that's an easy fit

[dusk patrol]

Then you only have to dress nice for like, date night or whatever.

[outer wave]

What about longer hair on guys though? Not like down to the neck but longer than your average hair cut?

[dusk patrol]

Idk theres no rule

Some dudes pull it off better.

[outer wave]

Fair enough

[arctic talon]

taste in hair varies

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

Some people look great bald some don't.

[arctic talon]

It’s almost like beauty is subjective

[dusk patrol]

Some look good with facial hair others don't.

[arctic talon]

And also yeah face shape and other stuff

[dusk patrol]

Some people are uglier than others, lifes unfair.

[outer wave]

Unfortunately yes

[arctic talon]

Ngl the fact people don’t shower

Is insane to me

[dusk patrol]

I don't get it

I hate smelling.

[outer wave]

Showering feels so nice too

[dusk patrol]

I hate being dirty.

[crystal forum]

as much as i hate it i do feel bad for some people's genetic lotery

[storm jungle]

I can get it kind of but like the longest i go without showering is maybe 1 day if im extremely tired.

[crisp heath]

it´s tricky

i feel like it´s either super sexy or super unsexy

and there´s no inbetween

[storm jungle]

i legit cannot think not showering for 3-4 days and further

that is just nuts

[outer wave]

Fair fair

[crystal forum]

i can skip the weekends because i dont meet anybody and dont go outside lol

[storm jungle]

Once you stop showering you basically become a parasite bacteria colony after a certain threshold lol

[crystal forum]

but i hate skipping a day

[outer wave]

As someone on two dating apps, seen a couple that I feel genuinely bad for because they just don't look great

[crystal forum]

i literally cannot fathom going to work without showering

or meeting anybody

[crisp heath]

i think beauty can be something that most people will agree on, but that doesn´t determine whether they´re actually interested in it. i could view the taj mahal and think wow this is a nice castle, but still wouldn´t wanna live in a building that looks like that

[outer wave]

Tell that to Asmongold

[dusk patrol]

The men in my family are good at punching outside our weight class so I’m banking on that

[languid meadow]

He's an outlier

[arctic talon]

This is true

[dusk patrol]

Also Asmongold definitely has some huge mental issues wit that

[outer wave]

True

[arctic talon]

Asmongold def has mental issues

[dusk patrol]

He’s got a lot going on with his mom and dad and stuff and weird shit

[arctic talon]

He literally used a dead rat

As an “alarm”

Because it smelled worse in the morning

[languid meadow]

the blood wall

[dusk patrol]

He has soooo much money but his mental is so fucked

Genuinely I hope he figures it out one day

[outer wave]

He legit needs to go outside

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

He needs to move

[crystal forum]

fuck him

[dusk patrol]

He needs a new house and to hire a maid

[crystal forum]

guy's an adult

[dusk patrol]

But whatever

[crystal forum]

and has dog shit views

[dusk patrol]

It’s his life, but it does make me sad

[outer wave]

Anyway beauty standards

[dusk patrol]

I do think guys have it way easier

[crystal forum]

you have to be dumb af to think otherwise

basic skin care is like beyond most men

[dusk patrol]

Genuinely the amount of “ugly” guys I’ve know who pull super hot women because personality and basically nothing else is wild

[outer wave]

It's all about that courage

[dusk patrol]

It’s a lot of things but yeah

[languid meadow]

yeah when you're an actual human and not an ass people will like you

[dusk patrol]

They’re also as I said, well put together

Got some charisma

Don’t use dating apps is the main thing

Just go meet people

Talk

[crystal forum]

women scare me

[dusk patrol]

Get a little drunk to make it easier

Whatever

[outer wave]

I'm not a fan of bars

I did hit on a girl once though at a bar

[dusk patrol]

It depends on the bar

[outer wave]

Didn't go great

[dusk patrol]

Some people don’t mesh well with them

The main thing is just to get outside of your bubble and meet people

Wherever that is

[outer wave]

I'd like to go to an art club but I don't think we got any around here

[dusk patrol]

Dating advice is like advice for working out and losing weight, it’s pretty simple it’s just a lot of work and consistency

Largely

Obviously there’s more to it than that but it’s a skill

[crisp heath]

do you have a university?

[dusk patrol]

Some people have harder times learning it than others but the main thing is constantly being in situations where you’re talking to girls or guys or whatever you’re interested in

[opaque coyote]

"The Emperor protects... But not from me."

[dusk patrol]

Love that art piece

[arctic talon]

Eversor punisher goes crazy

[dusk patrol]

Works very well lol

[opaque coyote]

By u/SethKlock

[opaque coyote]

Also the noble he murdered was so fat that he couldn't even gore him

Also

"The Emperor chose me to lead, not to read."

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/elected-to-lead-not-to-read-the-simpsons-president-schwarzenegger-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-16361128

[opaque coyote]

Also, Sigismund didn't even outright hate the Codex or Guilliman the way some other folks like Amit did. In fact he more or less looked at it and said, "Hey, there's some cool stuff in here. We'll use the cool bits, lose the rest." which is actually closer to what Guilliman intended lol

[arctic talon]

They fact they have tactical squads and assault squads already discredits the whole

They don’t follow the codex at all thing lol

If they ignored the codex they’d have tactical support squads

[sand bloom]

https://youtu.be/N1apG88LRJU?t=21

[storm jungle]

Sir this is the 40k lore chat

[sand bloom]

you should watch the video

it's related to the fluff

[dusk patrol]

It is actually pretty funny

Tl;dr, she said to Cadians in the game "Its ok guys I got this, you guys can go home."

[green loom]

[sand bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-gif-26527456

[green loom]

I've yet to play the game while not horribly sleep deprived but hopefully I can do some gaming on the weekend

[storm jungle]

Damn sorry the moment i see anime girls my hater senses go online

[crisp heath]

even though you´re so kawaii?

[storm jungle]

Ewwwww

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mad-gif-420679338812824305

[dusk patrol]

Its ok, Vtubers aren't real people

So the geneva convention doesn't apply.

[storm jungle]

[gray umbra]

Uwu

[crystal forum]

get this out of my face

[crisp heath]

WuW

(eyelashes)

(smiley was self-created's)

[lapis verge]

damn you Erebus!!!

[storm jungle]

Eresus grindset never stops

[crystal forum]

can he die please

dan please

i want justice for my boy loken

[gray umbra]

Erebussy

[storm jungle]

they hate Eresus cuz they aint Eresus

🗿

[crystal forum]

guy's more famous than his primarch

[viral halo]

Hello lore chat

The mets beat the phillies

I am a happy man

[outer wave]

Looking forwards to her and Biboo playing together tbh

[lapis verge]

Biboo and Cadia would go swimmingly well

They're both a bunch of pebbles anyway

[outer wave]

LMAO

She kept calling them Canadians and saying they had skill issue for not surviving a Tyranid onslaught

I look forward to them playing more 40k games or even buying minis

[crisp heath]

me whenever i´m in america to visit my fiance and baseball or football is mentioned

go steelers! go penguins! or whatever

right, pirates it was

oh wait they all exist. ok

they have a great fan ice cream at least.

[lapis verge]

Ah yes

eggball

[crisp heath]

i remember watching the superbowl once, i had no idea how pussy it actually is compared to rugby

[crystal forum]

Philadelphia is a shithole

im sorry all you philly people in chat

im not actually

your city sucks

[lapis verge]

Rugby based

[sand bloom]

go birds

[sour hornet]

Rugby is actually safer tbh.

[crisp heath]

ALSO i wanna mention that american sports customers ("fans") are complete pussies as well, whenever Dynamo Dresden has a match they prophylactically send in riot police because they already know what´s gonna happen

[sour hornet]

Unless 60% of the players are going home w/ cte it's pansy shit

[crisp heath]

whatever, i don´t care either way

i like chess

lol

[sour hornet]

real, I went to chess club through most of my childhood

[viral halo]

great place to pick up fentanyl and or aids

[sour hornet]

I don't even remember why, my parents had like 5 kids and decided I was the chess one

[crisp heath]

this is some malcolm in the middle type story

[sour hornet]

yeah

cause I don't even like chess very much

I got to attend swim club along w/ it, so it wasn't all bad

[viral halo]

Sports are the greatest thing ever

Nothing beats the rush of athletic achievement

[crisp heath]

seems like there´s a big difference between sports vs watching other people do sports

I like watching the best athletes in the world go head to head

It’s amazing to see just how great humans can be

[tough haven]

Is there like aspect worship of the God Emperor? Like worshipping specific parts of him, like the avenger, or the benevolent, etc.?

[opaque coyote]

Different worlds worship him differently

In some he's a sun god
In others a war god

Etc.

Basically countless minor and major differences

Unfortunately this has also gotten back to the Emperor and probably explains why he's so fragmented

So many different versions of himself at once

As Lorgar said in his book

"Rejoice!"

"For God walks among us..."

In every world

Every piece of media

Every prayer for salvation

And every prayer for death

All different

But all the same

And they're all screaming in agony

[young pecan]

That's pretty rough for big E

Assuming he hears or is affected by all of it

[opaque coyote]

Considering when Guilliman met him

And he couldn't even call him by his name without going through several other titles and thoughts

He is 100% affected

All of them are contradictory also

Like one of the things the Emperor called Guilliman was a traitor

Which

No??

[young pecan]

Interesting

I forgot about that

[opaque coyote]

Basically the Emperor suffered a fate worse than death

And considering what some races go through when they die

[young pecan]

You could sum that up to insanity but I like the fragments thing better

[opaque coyote]

cough

Eldar

[opaque coyote]

It's both

Having your mind and sense of self being pulled in a billion directions

While being stuck on what's essentially the most painful chair in the Galaxy

[young pecan]

I like the idea that "beloved" in Darktide is a fragment of the Emperor

[young pecan]

And having 1000 people sacrificed per day

[opaque coyote]

"Erm, what the sigmar"

[red anvil]

If I was a space marine, I would modify my helmet’s interior to dispense galaxy gas during combat

[thick cedar]

Did the emperor intend to rule mankind forever? Or was it more of "Shits fixed, im stepping down and you guys can take it from here"

[green loom]

Probably yeah

[celest dome]

Very few Tyrants ever go to the point of stepping down

Well, at least willingly

[dusk patrol]

Not clear, seems he’d at least need someone to keep the Webway

We don’t even know what his endgame was but he didn’t even really do a lot of the ruling stuff so I do think he’d care once he set his plan in motion.

All he seemed to care about was securing his plan at almost any cost, self sacrifice really isn’t something he lacks.

[opaque coyote]

He intended to basically make mankind like him

Powerful Psykers with the ability to warp reality

He meant to use the webway as a way to prevent daemons from eating their brains while they trained

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, I know this seems a bit weird

But I genuinely do think the Emperor would've retired once his "plan" was finished

Mainly because it seems like he seemed to basically be more concerned with speed running to conquer as many planets as possible

Than actually managing the Imperium

Due to a lot of systems being temporary in some form

The Imperium was supposed to be a waiting room

But unfortunately the Chaos Gods turned it into the DMV

[lapis verge]

Wasn't Big E's main goal to never let the events of the Age of Technology transpire again, wherein humanity almost went extinct?

Like he decided to bring in every human in the universe under his wing, be it by diplomacy or by force

At least those who are still human and untainted by xeno dogma or technology

The way they handled the Interex was beyond stupid ngl

[green loom]

That's not really the ideal thing, he was on a time limit because he was fucking around with precognition

[green loom]

Yeah I'm sure Mr Martyrdom complex would be happy to step down in favour of someone else

[paper haven]

To be fair to the Imperium, the Interex jumped the gun and refused further negotiation.

[storm jungle]

Kind of, Big E basically wanted humanity to be a dominant purely psychic species.

he was very much the warlord with the biggest stick at the time and not a Chosen One, he very much utilized Manifest Destiny as a thing for all his actions

[queen laurel]

hey Dilara you don't read Aos books much right

[storm jungle]

nope

[queen laurel]

yeah and it seems book club as well

[celest dome]

[green loom]

To be fair to the Imperium

Horus' orders were to open fire right away

He actively went against orders to negotiate

[lapis verge]

I wasn't aware AoS has lore

/s

[lapis verge]

Horus wasn't corrupted yet when the Interex negotiations went down right?

[green loom]

Nah this is like directly before

It's where Erebus steals the athame

Or anathame

Or whatever

[lapis verge]

Right

[queen laurel]

it has lore and it's Fantastic

[storm jungle]

Homie is stuck in 2012

[green loom]

Yo Dilara I can actually play the game now 😄

[crystal forum]

ogryn time

[storm jungle]

lets gooooo

[green loom]

Mars finally came through with the requisition order

[shell mason]

Dukane is witchfinder Change my Mind

[green loom]

Dukane is Dexter from Dexter's laboratory

[shell mason]

Darinda, Dilara

seems to much of a coincidence to pass up

[modern rapids]

Is there any heresy in 40k lord that isn't just Chaos? As in are there any mentions of humans believing wrong/undogmatic things about the emperor and thus being branded a heretic?

Even when they still worship the emperor

[celest dome]

Happen a lot yes

[modern rapids]

As in let's say someone worshipping the God Emperor, but believing something that is not "official dogma" and thus being branded a heretic

[green loom]

Oh yeah it's like

A major conflict point in imperial POVs lol

[modern rapids]

Could you give me an example or two? I am guessing it was inspired a lot by Christianity

And Islam

Like the whole thing about Emperor not wanting to be worshipped, but then people worshipping him anyways. (Like how Islam claims Jesus is)

[green loom]

Chaos and stealer cults a lot of the time prop themselves up as their own little sects of the imperial faith

[queen laurel]

Using Xenos Tech and not hating them is the most common type of non-chaos heresy

[modern rapids]

But is it just to decieve or is it genuine?

[green loom]

You have as many variations of the Imperial Faith and Emps himself as there are planets basically

They'll all have their own quirks

[green loom]

Can be both

[queen laurel]

Yeah some people see the emperor as a death God

[modern rapids]

Ooh so like a human even SUGGESTING to negotiate/not kill Tau on sight would be DEEPLY heretical?

[queen laurel]

while others see him as a type of giant wolf or somethingWhile others see him as a type of giant wolf or something

[green loom]

One of the Darktide zealots is a khorne worshipper lol(indirectly)

[queen laurel]

It depends who he's talking to

but yes

[green loom]

A regular human not being disgusted by them would probably get them lynched

But like, upper echelons get more wiggle room

[queen laurel]

yeah

higher ranks have more wiggle room but most of the time it's shoot on site

[modern rapids]

How is the Emperor Godhood even explained? They don't believe he created existence and humans, right? What are the core beliefs? Just that he is immortal and protector of all of mankind?

[modern rapids]

Death God? Like in what sense?

[rocky gale]

In a short story there was a world which indirectly worshiped the emperor because they’d made a massive statue to him out of a mountain but then got separated from the Imperium for thousands of years by warp storms

So they forgot who the statue was

But kept worshiping it

[modern rapids]

Huh? Really? Haha explain :)

[green loom]

Sometimes the Emperor is the sun and the creator of reality, sometimes he's a dread god honouring the valorous dead with seats by his side
Other times he's a Great Lady of the Harvest etc. etc.

Literally always varies

[green loom]

You ever notice one of them shouting "Blood for the Emperor, Skulls for the Golden Throne"

[modern rapids]

I think my Zealot is the female Irish sounding one lol. Or a weird mix of irish and scottish idk

[queen laurel]

Death Cults are Cults that apparently receive whispers from him to kill certain targets and they do so spilling blood in his name

to them he is considered the undying one

[celest dome]

The whole The Age of Apostasy

[queen laurel]

but yeah basically emperor worship can take a lot of forms

[green loom]

A line which pretty obviously is meant to play on "blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne", the chant of Khorne worshippers

[modern rapids]

I am guessing Inquisitors are the most zealous, while like SpaceMarines are usually the most "level-headed" ?

[green loom]

Varies

Inquisitors are like the most in depth when it comes to this

[queen laurel]

Varies like ed said that's why radicals and puritans exist

[modern rapids]

Is the belief that all non-human life forms/non-Terran life forms are inherently evil to their core and their sole purpose is to destroy humanity?

[green loom]

You have extremist puritans who can be total fundamentalist zealots, or crazed radicals that almost worship chaos

[green loom]

Not uncommon but not a rule

The "average" inquisitor is probably a bit more in the know and pragmatic about it

[modern rapids]

Damn, that's cool

[green loom]

We have other stuff like Greyfax, who's a pretty hardcore atheist

[modern rapids]

I meant as in what is the official Dogma that the church holds?

Does the Church have a name? Like Catholic, Orthodox etc. Lol

[green loom]

The Ecclesiarchy yeha, they think The human form is holy and the galaxy belongs to humanity

[modern rapids]

Waaait... Thats what my character shouts

[green loom]

It's just "The Imperial Faith"

[queen laurel]

"Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean."

[modern rapids]

I thought it was just what Humans also do in 40k, while its more of a khorne thing in fantasy

[green loom]

Nah it's a 40k thing

[queen laurel]

basically non humans, Mutants and Heretics

kill on site

[green loom]

Before darktide it was used in a short story for psychic awakening I think with a khornate cult posing as an imperial one

[modern rapids]

Oooh that's what the new Rogue Trader dlc is about?

So like they believe the Emperor whispers targets to them to kill, like enemies of mankind that need to die

[green loom]

Same deal as the Dark Brotherhood in Elder Scrolls

Basically

[queen laurel]

yeah they worship him through blood sacrifices

yeah basically that

[modern rapids]

Does the church merely tolerate these death cultists out of practicality (like mechanicus) or are they accepted as faithful bretheren

[green loom]

MOST imperial cults are tolerated

[queen laurel]

look at warhammer zealots and you have the answer already

They worship the emperor as long as they aren't too crazy and kill everyone they are good

[modern rapids]

I am such a newbie when it comes to warhammer lore, what is the age of apostasy? Is it the age right after the "enthroning" of the Emperor? (The death of his body)

[green loom]

Good bit after, religious leader basically took control of terra and some chaos ensued

Sisters of Battle were formed from his bodyguards who killed him

[queen laurel]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

[obsidian rose]

orks

WAAAAAAAAGH

[queen laurel]

Here's a reliable website for you

[obsidian rose]

that link is dangerous

[queen laurel]

If you don't find anything that might answer your question there you can always try the wiki but most of the time the lex is more accurate

[modern rapids]

Ooh i see

[modern rapids]

I mean everyone must at least believe in the Chaos gods existence

[queen laurel]

For your common imperial person knowing about chaos is enough to get them thrown off the cliff

it is very much considered classified information

and only higher ups should know about it

[modern rapids]

Do they believe the Emperor created humanity? Or just that humans came to be naturally through evolution, but are holy and rightful owners of the Galaxy?

[green loom]

That they exist isn't up for question, that they're gods or not is another matter

[green loom]

Depends but I figure the former would be more popular rhetoric for them

[modern rapids]

Also tbh in the 40k universe the only race I can see myself tolerating is the Tau lol. They seem like the only one who would be a good ally

[modern rapids]

I see

[modern rapids]

Why are Ogryns allowed then? Are they not mutants?

[queen laurel]

they are Abhumans

Which are a stable strain of mutants that are considered fit enough to be with the imperium

[modern rapids]

Damn, wonder why even the learned are against Tau instead of allying with them against Chaos

[queen laurel]

Ratlings and Beastmen also fallen that category

[queen laurel]

it's just the imperium lacks common sense like at all

[green loom]

A lot of the learned have a vested interest in being on top, and they're probably still xenophobic

[modern rapids]

Is the point of such cults to get people in then to slowly lure them in to Korne. Or that the believers simply get corrupted by Khornate influence and get "brainwashed" literally to worship Khorne

[green loom]

It's a cover for the actual worshippers and basically a gateway to ease people to into it

[modern rapids]

Like do Chaos worshippers simply believe in Chaos, or are they merely "mind controlled" by chaos, so it has nothing to do with their own free will/choice?

[green loom]

It actually doesn't really matter if they use the name "khorne" or not

[modern rapids]

Yeee was about to say it reminds me of that

[green loom]

They're typically very desperate

The "Dregs" of society

So it's usually their own choice

[modern rapids]

Ahh I see, but the "victims" are never random? Always enemies of humanity, right? Or at least that is what they believe

[queen laurel]

the wispers they hear are Very accurate most of the time

[modern rapids]

Does the emperor give supernatural powers to Zealots or are they merely powered by pure willpower in the form of faith?

[celest dome]

That's what they like to think

[modern rapids]

Religious leader was not of the Imperial faith?

[queen laurel]

yeah Faith can manifests as a power the biggest example of this is the living saints

If people have enough faith in the emperor it can manifest into protection or a power that allows them to do better in combat or something

[modern rapids]

Also random ass question, but is it true that race, gender, sexuality, nationality, ethnicity etc. Are wholly irrelevant subjects in the Empire?

Also is the Warhammer wiki "biased" as in it talks about events in the "eyes" of human historians in the warhammer universe? I feel like this is a meme in the community lol, where no information about 40k is unbiased 😅

[queen laurel]

warhammer wiki just copy and paste everything

[modern rapids]

Doesn't everyone know that a god called "Khorne" exists and he commands red demons that want blood and skulls and that is bad and evil so they must be killed, lol?

[green loom]

But the books can have a biased pov

[modern rapids]

Oh i see

[green loom]

Most people are ignorant of the wider shitshow

The chaos gods included

[queen laurel]

yeah acknowledge like that can get you killed

[green loom]

They mostly are unless an author wants a b plot or to explore some stuff

[queen laurel]

if you're not a high enough ranking person for that type of knowledge

[green loom]

Like the Vostroyan Officer Corps used to be closed off to the lowborn and women

Or the Salamanders really hating people from their southern continent

[modern rapids]

I had NO clue that there are beastmen in 40k!!! And hobbits too

[modern rapids]

"Beastman bad. Bad Beastman. Dirty. Emperor no like. Beastman love Emperor. Give blood to Emperor. Give heads to Emperor. Say sorry."

Awww his repentance is so cute

[modern rapids]

Ooh like how usually Nurgle worshippers are terminally ill people who beg for Nurgle to ease their pain, thus "inviting" his corruption

[modern rapids]

Ahh interesting... So I guess the cult is "real" in the sense that the Emperor does whisper to them

[modern rapids]

Ahhh I see, reminds me of Paladins in Warcraft

[modern rapids]

Are living saints just people who got such powers from the Emperor?

[queen laurel]

yes they usually had strong fate and ascend to become a Living saint

[modern rapids]

I am guessing the wings, the flame on the sword and the huge sun like aura are "gifts" fron the Emperor, given by his "mind power" whatever you call it. Seems like the Emperor does play in to his religion and Godhood alot, even though he never wanted it... Though if anyone, it would be the Emperor who would utilize it, given how dreadful the galaxy is for humanity

[modern rapids]

Copy and paste from the books?

[modern rapids]

Ye ofc

[storm jungle]

Rulebooks, codexes, novels, etc

its why when people ask things like: "How can I read this out of print rulebook's lore" you can just direct them at the wiki lol

[modern rapids]

I see. Is it true that Khorne is not an eternal immortal god, but merely is powered by all the hatred and bloodlust sentient beings in the universe feel? So if everyone in the universe became pacifists, Khorne would simply cease existing?

[storm jungle]

Hes both.

Hes eternal because theres always conflict, the gods in 40k basically would wither and disappear if there was nothing to feed them though yeah

its just that its such an impossibility its basically not ever going to happen

[modern rapids]

I mean sure they can be mentioned, but as in inuniverse no one cares/judges/discriminates OR even really aknowledges such traits in the first place since humanity has been so unified on the war against Xenos

I mean ofc different cultures from different cities and planets exist

[storm jungle]

Humans will always find reasons to hate each other

it also still gets mentioned in 40k

just not frequently because its too much of an IRL hot topic

[tough haven]

Mostly yeah, they don’t really care what you look like (unless your a mutant) or where you’re from, or who you’re attracted to. All the care about is Can you be worked to death in a labor camp? does your trigger finger work? Perfect! Here’s a lasgun, now get to the line and shoot that carnifex!

[storm jungle]

Instead of your skin color it could simply be you looking too tall or "unnatural".

[modern rapids]

So someone might look down on a person from planet XlorbaLorb, but like modern "racism, sexism, caring about sexuality" etc. Does not exist inuniverse?

[storm jungle]

It does.

Again, its just not as widespread explored because its a touchy subject.

[tough haven]

It does

Just not widespread

[storm jungle]

Like some imperials literally kill people for being too tall

or looking "weird"

Bigotism is pretty much ingrained into us lol

[tough haven]

The issue still exists it’s just less focused on because of the literal fucking nightmare creatures are coming to kill us

[modern rapids]

Ooh I see. I know that the church only has female soldiers, but that's due to getting around a legal loophole, not misandry.

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much.

[tough haven]

Don’t got time for conventional bigotism

[queen laurel]

it's a thing but most of the time people really don't care because you are only really measured in three metrics

how strong are you

how much is your faith

and how much you are willing to sacrifice

[storm jungle]

Sisters still face sexism here and there, the problem is they can also crush your skull if you let them hear it lol

[tough haven]

We gotta invent new forms of bigotism

[storm jungle]

same with most imperial institutions

[tough haven]

Yeah very few openly insult sisters

[storm jungle]

some wont care that you are a woman, others will actively say you dont "fit" such a station

[tough haven]

They will beat you to death

[queen laurel]

do they get like enhancements like the space marines or something like that

[storm jungle]

Nope.

Just power armor and big training

[queen laurel]

that makes sense

[tough haven]

So long as you deliver results most won’t care though besides a comment every now and then

[storm jungle]

Theres a protagonist in the warhammer crime novels who has a gay brother and he says if they ever found out hes into guys in another planet he'd get lynched to death, but here on where they are nobody cares, etc.

[modern rapids]

Are ratlings personality wise more like fantasy dwarves than halflings/hobbits?

[storm jungle]

They are just hobbits.

they like stealing and food

also got hairy feet

thats kind of it

[queen laurel]

they steal stuff and food

[jade holly]

You think we’ll ever get a tide style game for Orks?

Where you play as part of an Ork clan fighting off other clans

[queen laurel]

and just one of the reasons they can stay around is very few in the imperium can rival their sniping

[green loom]

Prolly not

[jade holly]

Would be real funny

[queen laurel]

probably not anytime soon

[jade holly]

It even has the perfect name

Waaaghtide

[storm jungle]

Xenos dont make money in the eyes of most developers.

its always gotta be humans lol

[green loom]

It's kinda a shock Darktide is inquisition centric

[storm jungle]

^

[jade holly]

Vermintide I get

[queen laurel]

Going for a warhammer game is already A niche risk

[jade holly]

But the Hell is a darktide

[green loom]

W

*wym

[storm jungle]

Humans.

[modern rapids]

Yeaah ofc. So the gods kind of embody sin, how the gods (satan) tempt people in to sin, but how people inherently have a tendency to sin, and both feed on each other

[queen laurel]

making it a Xenos game?

That's taking a risk and gambling your left hand

[storm jungle]

its not even them attempting it

the universe is awful and so are most of its inhabitants

chaos gods corrupt people at large that do awful stuff

the people that fall to its corruption due to want/need/temptation are another smaller half

[jade holly]

Papa Nurgle when he loves me so much he gives me turbo cancer

[storm jungle]

Shoulda worshipped someone better

skill issue

🫵

[jade holly]

Nah Papa Nurgle loves me

[queen laurel]

if there is even a chance i can look like the glorious Guffle Pusmaw i am worshipping him

[storm jungle]

Mmm soup stomach

[queen laurel]

i am already like halfway there

i'm only missing a stomach mouth

[plush mason]

same

[tough haven]

Nah nah it’s not turbo cancer, it’s just mega space aids

[plush mason]

more likely both

[modern rapids]

Unless they have a strong enough common cause/enemy to hate

[plush mason]

eh even then its unlikely for humans to stop hating each other

[modern rapids]

The most recent stuff I heard is something about female space marines or smthng... but idk.

I don't usually like mixing of real life "hot topics" as you put it and then "escapism", but I am interested to see how humans view other humans in this universe, 38 thousand years in the future

[plush mason]

they still hate each other though the reasons are a little different

the imperium spends more time fighting among itself than it does its outside enemies

[modern rapids]

So if every human can be a low life labor camp slave or a child soldier, there will be no specific minorities that get persecuted?

What a wonderful and equal society 😇

[tough haven]

So long as you don’t look weird and think exactly what we want you to think yeah!

[modern rapids]

I wonder if I'd be brough up to the inquisition out of suspicion for being too close to Ratlings, as a 5'5 dude

[tough haven]

The only minorities that get executed are psykers and mutants

[storm jungle]

People will still always find a reason to hate each other. You give us too much credit

[queen laurel]

there are imperial commanders that will give a kid an artillery beacon and tell him to go there and the only thing that will be left of the kid is body pieces that have been blown apart

[tough haven]

And also “free thinkers” or people with “compassion”

[storm jungle]

Yeah remember the core tenet of the Imperium is

[tough haven]

Serving the emperor

[storm jungle]

"Do not think."

"Just do what you are told."

[modern rapids]

hmmm I see. So would Terran natives still hold more specific "oh those people? they are inferrior to us because they are from the other side of the planet" etc. but someone living in another galaxy would just see all Terrans as the same?

[modern rapids]

lmao

[storm jungle]

Yeah they would.

[tough haven]

Terrans are practically viewed as saints by virtue of being from terra

Like a mystical creature

[storm jungle]

Like even if every person in the world looked the same we'd find some reason to dislike one and other for being "different".

Race, Place of Birth, Looks, Actions, etc

[queen laurel]

when you grow up to be 6'9 and you see people begin carrying pitchforks and going to your house

[storm jungle]

in 40k Cadians literally are racist at their new recruits for not being from cadia

[tough haven]

Or from being “less cadian”

Even within the ones from cadia

[storm jungle]

or not being "pureblooded"

[queen laurel]

and Catachans call anyone they think weak as Cadian

[modern rapids]

Would the suspicion be that said person was affected by Chaos?

Like what does "mutant" even mean in 40k? Is it a "modified human" caused by Chaos forces?

Or is "mutant" like in a lab genetically altered human?

[queen laurel]

using as a race as an insult is crazy

[tough haven]

Mutant means anything from “third toe” to “your skin looks a little pale”

[storm jungle]

Its a mutation of any kind.

[tough haven]

To “hey that’s literally 5 arms and your pupils are conjoined”

[storm jungle]

the irony comes from the fact that mutation can be caused by non-chaos means in human worlds within 40k as well

from the planet, your work environment, the way you were born, etc

[modern rapids]

yeah ofc. Bigotism or as the youngsters say "-ism"s exist, but they just take a different form 38thousand years in the future

[tough haven]

Also from the toxins and all that

[storm jungle]

Pretty much.

Again our kind of bigotism is not explored in depth because its too close to real life and would make people uncomfortable.

its just explored here and there

the more extreme form of hate comes from religious indoctrination stuff and "purges" among other stuff.

[modern rapids]

also is there any official lore that goes beyond the 40k millenium? like in the 42nd?43rd millenium? or does everything stay in 40 000-40 999 and ofc in the past like horus heresy

[storm jungle]

Nope

we are in the "current" timeline now

its slowly developing at a glacial pace with random events for games/rulebooks since 40k doesnt really have a main narrative

just the saturday morning cartoon format

"heres the threat of the week"

or well, month/year in this case lol

[modern rapids]

Yeah we humans are really not meant to be in societies of millions... never the less TRILLIONS...

we are very tribal, 50-150 people consisting of a few families

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much

[shadow plover]

everything after the rift is 42nd millenium

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah

40k is very much a cartoon

you go fight the flavor faction of the month and maybe get some lore from it

its the same with the other warhammer settings

[queen laurel]

as the saying here goes wide as an ocean deep as a puddle

[modern rapids]

yeah ofc, we humans are the most united when facing a common enemy way way way more dangerous than we humans to each other

[plush mason]

which is what makes our progression into bigger and bigger societies all the more stupid, you would think one or the other would have given and faded

[modern rapids]

Casual racism? Nahhh we COMPETITIVE racism in the 41st millenium

[plush mason]

ether we lose the tribalism or we dont form bigger communities

[storm jungle]

Its just "monke together strong"

we definitely still live in much better conditions than any part of human history but lol

[plush mason]

but we arent because we cant work together

[storm jungle]

Well yeah

we suck

[queen laurel]

throw enough monkeys with knives at the T rex and it will fall down eventually

[plush mason]

in fact we are weaker in large numers

[queen laurel]

that's the imperium strategy

[modern rapids]

Are sisters physically altered, like stronger than regular females? are they stronger than regular males? or are they merely VERY trained and equipped

[storm jungle]

They are just highly trained.

[queen laurel]

trained as hell

they are one of the peak examples of how strong a human can get

[jade holly]

Highly trained and somehow even bigger religious zealots than usual

[tough haven]

Also given power armor which helps

[modern rapids]

I honestly liked it so much when I found out the reason why the sisters of battle is women only. Reminds me of LOTR "No man can kill me..." lol

[jade holly]

Walking cathedral and all

[storm jungle]

Brainwashing does wonders

[storm jungle]

lol to be fair with that line she means as in "Im not just a mere human"

[jade holly]

I like to think a Zealot’s faith has the same influence as the power of the Ork’s imagination powering things

[storm jungle]

It does but it depends from Order to Order.

[modern rapids]

oooh that makes a lot of sense, I mean here on modern day earth different countries, continents etc. have big differences... now imagine that between PLANETS!

[tough haven]

“Guess what, I just learned how to throw rocks, your entire evolutionary arms race is just fucked now, I win”

[storm jungle]

yeah its the same as Mankind including all of us lol

[jade holly]

It could be the power of faith, or those Zealots REALLY love drugs

[storm jungle]

same with how Man refers to us as a species

[jade holly]

I prefer Homo Sapien thank you very much smh

[storm jungle]

Homo Superior