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I thought it could tide me over until admech 2
still over here playing darktide instead
SM1 better
Too bad bolters are bad in that game
I LOVE DARKTIDE
I love being a average ass dude
calm down jim
SM1 Unironicially has a better story lol
I think they are fairly strong
Guys I cant wait for SM3 where Im doing more of the same of SM2 but with a new faction to fight
Darktide gives me a certain feeling when i run through hab block dreyko with a flamer
arent the stories effectively the same but one is orks lol
tau and then thousands sons behind it all again 
They’re very similar lol
Make it world eaters for the funny
I think part of it is just Warhammer having been a niche hobby thing until pretty recently, where its become mainstream, so now alot of weirder people have come into the light
I mean Sm2 has the dark aspects of the imperium but like newer 40k editions it's no longer super obvious and isn't the center anymore (which sucks ngl)
The artifact..
Tau would kinda fuck hard
you'd know?
It literally is super obvious
In newer editions
Ok toned down from previous ed
They literally servitorize an entire crew of communications officers
In the core rule book
Sm2 was just designed to be mass consumption slop
I think it’s deranged people think GW have toned back the grimdark when it’s literally the same
Hell a book released in 9e literally has a servitor factory
Ive seen the fan art; I assure you that they would fuck hard and Gue'va like me
Described
all right fine I concede
you have my respect for the honesty
Love that game to death but it was 100 percent meant to get people to buy more minis
There he goes
:smarf:
it's fun
I love servitors
its any time theres a group in media thats meant to be reviled, theres a group of people that go "yeah this looks good"
those types of Imperium fans are something else
The cold smell hit me like a brick. Like a meat store, where astringents can’t hide the smell of incipient rot. There were notes of faeces to go with the blood and decay. The sound was the worst. Shouting, screaming, praying, weeping, all the cries of human terror and misery.
I’m not a squeamish man, and nor do I spare tears for those who deserve punishment, but what I saw in that processorium haunts me still. Naked human beings were standing in a switchbacked line between high fences. Outside the fences Adeptus Mechanicus menials in environment suits stood guard with shock goads in hand. The people, all mature men and women, were shepherded down the caged walk like livestock. And they were food beasts being led to the slaughter, meat for the ravenous appetite of the Machine-God. I grew up lucky enough to eat real meat. I was unlucky enough to see where it came from – another gift of my father on another damn tour of my family’s various businesses. The manufactorum produced servitors, but it was more akin to an abattoir than a workshop. Every surface was easily cleanable. Large plastek flaps divided areas from each other. Servitors with spray units surgically attached to their backs prowled about, hosing filth into slit drains set into the perfectly smooth, slanted floors. We walked above all this, past sentry pods on spikes occupied by galvanic rifle-armed snipers. Our path went from one end of the hall to the other, and I could see pretty much the whole sorting process, beginning to end.
As the line slowly advanced, the people were passed through various scanning devices, most of them mounted in ugly, functional arches that let out a constant series of acceptance chimes. Occasionally, one would let out an angry blare, and the indicator lumens would flash red. The rejected person was then swallowed up by a trapdoor opening beneath their feet. From these pits wafted a hideous stench, and the grinding sounds of industrial mincers. One rejected man grabbed on to the lip and hung there, arms and hands bloodied, shouting a stream of defiant profanities. Guards lined the grating either side of him and shocked him until he fell. The adepts wouldn’t even waste bullets on these people.
The trapdoor flipped up, and the next terrified person was ushered forward. A number of pneumatic gates separated the people from each part of the process, snapping open and shut with bone-crushing force. Violent metal arms snatched them up and spread-eagled them in the air, and a servitor shearer shaved them all over. At another they were subjected to a high-pressure counterseptic wash whose chemical stink made me choke from a hundred feet away. More scanners, more rejects winnowed out. Machines forcibly dressed them in the heavy rubberised garments common to all mono-tasked servitors. These were saggy on them, all one size, until another process force-shrank them to fit their bodies where metal cuffs, sockets and collars bit into vulnerable flesh.
The last few prayers gave way to screams at that point, and even the most stoic shouted in pain. They were ushered over a floor buzzing with power that made them shriek with every footstep. ‘What’s that for?’ I asked. Djelling answered only reluctantly. ‘Follicular inhibitor. To stop their hair growing,’ he said. ‘How?’ I asked. Djelling was done answering. ‘Come, come, this way.’ He waved me over to a door. I didn’t come this way. I watched numbly. The shivering lines of terrified men and women reached a final series of gates, where a high-energy augur beam of such potency it made my dataslate buzz passed over them. Dazed, they were manhandled into different queues, and then hustled from the room to their fates. Djelling gripped my elbow with surprising strength and pushed me out of the hall. ‘This way. Please,’ he said. Thankfully, I was spared a view of the surgeries. I doubted the Adeptus Mechanicus provided anaesthetic, for the same reasons they would not dull the pain of a nail under the hammer
Dear god
Tech priests when
They see bad human
Melatonin STOP
This is also the same book with some other gross servitor lore
But yeah GW is totally less grimdark now
I’m sure
I think i remember an excerpt about some nobles son who visits a mechanicus base and he pisses them off so much they kidnap him
And talks about how they just sever his frontal cortex
that's why you don't anger the people who know how to turn you into a door
Tasty
I wish there were fuckin'
Fortress serivtors that run a whole ass fortress
Just one guy
Question: space marines dont typically believe that god emperor is a god right? Why or how do chaplains exist then?
Is it more that they find his teachings holy but not the guy himself?
depends on the chapter
Lets go with Ultramarines since Im watching Cali play SM2
I think firstborn generally don't believe in the emperors godhood and primaris from mars being the ones that are into the whole worship business (This is not 100% since marines believe in different things)
I think theyre mostly there to reaffirm loyalty to the cause
They like help maintain the spiritual and psychological health of the chapter
So i guess theyre kinda the hypeman
Team psychologist and psychiatrist
So generally speaking, primaris are the ones that have more of a religious zeal towards the emperor in comparison to first born?
I think yes
at least the ones from mars
I bet the ones from the homeworlds are more like firstborn (this could also be wrong)
I see
wait I think I found something
That must be weird to teach them that the emperor is not a god despite the amount of religious books and sermons given by chaplains
Obviously its differsnt per chapter and some chaptsrs do different things
Its also to make sure theres no corruption
Yeah that makes sense to check on corruption within the ranks
Cant have your space marines thinking too much on their own
Or else they start to question things
What part of the emperor did angron inherit?
I know it’s not his fury cause that’s a nail thing
His tiny pp
Ok so dark imperium makes it seem that primaris in normal chapters aren't religious
gonna try to find the excerpt
empathy and martial prowness
I know his whole purpose was to be an empathetic mediator for the other primarchs, basically emotional support
Chaplains aren’t so much religious leaders as they are like morale officers
The Black Templars would love to have an euthastic chat with u
Thats a better way of putting it
Chaplains in the us army are as much faith ministers as they are emotional support
whhy is fanart of battle sisters...
What i thought of 40k chaplains, just not religious and more dogmatic
I see I see
From what I gather Chaplains are usually more dogmatic in keeping morale yes
Tho some chapters tend to have... more fanatically religious Chaplains
Which is ironic considering Big E wanted everyone to be a rational atheist 
I get that but considering that space marines generally arent one to believe the emperor was a god, I thought it was strange that they do have a chaplain giving out religious sermons
Irony is the chaplains and lex divinatus are from the word bearers
And look at them now :smarf:
I think the more recent Primaris do see the Emperor as a god, yes
But won't the Firstborns still view him not as a god, considering some of them were around to know what he actually thinks?
Actually, a homebrew Loyalist chapter that doesnt see the Emps as a god would be interesting
Not true
Primaris are mostly the same as firstborn
In terms of beliefs
I'd say SM2 did a solid job at depicting Chaplin
||Leandros|| is a cunt but got damn can he preach
Where toward the end game, u would have such Chaplin deliever a sermon, but I don't recall it was religious in nature at all
Is that so?
Hmm, might need to look into it more
indeed
He’s the perfect chaplain tbh
Constantly suspicious
Incredibly strict
Knows space book inside and out
After what happened in SM1 I damn wish we got a game as the Space Wolves
Just so I can see a Space Wolf flip off an inquisitor
@arctic talon did you get to print the gamma pistol yet nerd
i should improve it
i have gotten better since i made it
and if you dont make one soon i'll be forced to find your place of residence and leave one on your doorstep with a note attached containing merely a single drop of blood
I wonder how many of those that make up the death watch are from traitor legions
I believe there are still Iron Warriors that arent traitors within the Death Watch
And all of them are Blackshield

Who are they?
I'm pretty sure I've heard of at least a couple chapters that are speculated to be loyalist iron warrior geneseed
Damn they take on Perturabo's seed and suddenly they're all bitter assholes
hewwo chat
Man Perturabo disappointed a lot of people
Unlike those who takes on the Emperor's seed
I really like that Perty's issue is just himself being himself
hey was there like, any way the non traitors of trator legions showed their alliegence?
or was it a 'oh fuck IW' pop pop
I heard a quote that applies to this
"Perturabo would've been one of the most skilled, artistic, and well liked primarchs.
If he wasn't Perturabo"
Basically true
I think after Istvaan, they generally just declared themselves traitor
ye of cours e
Although, the Raven Guard and White Scars had issues with traitors within their ranks, and the Dark Angels obviously had the Fallen to deal with after the Horus Heresy
But generally
"OH SHIT IRON WARRIOR!"
BLAM
luckily Khan being the chad he is forgiven his traitor sons and put them on teh same page
Yeah he basically let the traitors in his midst do their thing
Because he knew full well that they wouldn't convince anyone
"However, one literally has daemons that torture people randomly. So the Imperium is slightly better"
so no need to shave
I still find it funny that Chaos is basically only slightly less worse overall
Compared to the Imperium
also firstborn bikes are dirt cheap
yea, the imeprium does the same thing but some peope are okay
this can be taken out of context
note white scars are thes ame people who laugh while they behead people
Do it
and collect their hands
i wont im a coward
Sadge
Never got the traitors arguments.
they just want power for themselves
Like you're siding with creepy hellspirits and yet you're the good guys? Bruh.
Unserious people.
horus at the very beginning was only convinced by erebus when he showed a futur where the emperor is worshiped instead of horus
it's all selfish bullshit
When you feel that the emperor is actually a big asshole, mixed with funny insanity juice thats in the form of chaos/warp shinanigans, you'd think what you're doing is right and just, despite what you're actually doing
Wearing flayed skin and adorning your machines with rotting corpses and chains of skulls.
Hmm...
my favorite is in fall of cadia when a traitor says he'll liberate the cadians and then proceeds to swing a chain sword
Very unserious people to go around claiming your goal is to liberate when your name is "Thrashgore the Vilehand"
applies to the imperium as well tbf
Yeah tbf the Imperium actively genocides entire worlds that dont comply with them, or do but they've been doing things like conversing with friendly aliens
Or worse of course
Servitor creation is a thing under their rule
Oh I know the Imperium is filled with terrible people.
people keep bringing up servitors as if 99% of a hive world's population living below famine standards isn't dark enough
SM2 doesn't help with that though.
Literally just a "good guys save the world" plot.
Its a pretty easy example to get into, but the underhive is also a good answer
not even just the underhive
It isn't.
That's just standard dystopia stuff.
Servitors are unneeded cruelty.
Like there is no reason you need lobotmized servants instead of just making better stuff. But that is what the setting is about.
Anyway I cant believe Madrgus Babymuncher is a bad guy who joined chaos!!!!
Average night lord name
Gorzugack Flem-Fist devoted himself to Nurgle? An unforeseen twist.
Shittitus Plegm-farttius has joined Nurgle!!!
who could have expected the short primarchs to be sneaky turn coats
Vulkan pride
you're saying it like it's an fps lobby
HORUS HAS JOINED CHAOS
SEXYIUS CUMMICUS HAS JOINED SLAANESH
I can only imagine the voice chat
i would have way too much fun recreating the HH as an fps lobby if i was given the budget
I love my silly little guy
Actually lots of necrons just vibe
Like my favorite Zandrekh, he is living the psychosis lifestyle
maybe im just not looking in the right places but what ranks or denomination is this helmet supposed to represent to the ultra marines and is it ultra marine specific
It’s something others use but that helmet is obviously Ultramarine colored
But in general other chapters can and do use similar things
ye but i assume its to signify some sort of rank right
Seems like it’s generally a Captain thing
Cato obviously is the most obvious example
But it could be a lower rank thing too
Is there any scene where all sons bow before the big e
Cause all of them in one frame pre heresy would.go hard
Besides on Terra before they scattered all the primarchs were never in the same place
Ullanor was the largest gathering
Holy sh imagine if the big e rezzes reconnects with the traitorous sons. Then faces off against the chaos gods in one huge battle with all primarchs
It's impossible
But a sick af what if battle
Sorry mind is running rampant
All 20 sons bowing in front of the golden throne
Would go hard on a multi piece glass pane
Honestly might be worth making
But how much it'd go for
If officially licensed
Maan
But who tf would.even buy it
What are space marine chaplains? Like literally just chaplains in armour?
Do they fight?
When they need to.
They keep the chapter pure
Typically no, though.
So iif a chapter has a traitor space mariine or is suspected of
you typically report that mariine to a chaplain
A typical chapter has 1k space marines
How do they get chosen? Just the particularly holy ones? Lol
God no
Or is it like the trope of the priest that is secretly really good at fighting
Well
They’re very effective fighters
They’re all marines and they’re always veterans of the chapter
Chaplains unlike other specialist roles generally aren’t chosen early on
And instead marines as they rise in the ranks might be selected to try to become one
Theyll be siignified with a black shoulder pauldron
They wear all black armor
Anyways they’re basically the therapists and purifiers of the chapter
They both look for and root out corruption in a marine and also make sure they’re able to effectively fight and continue their service
How they do this varies a lot by chapter
But they have a lot of authority
Basically Commissar for the SM
They can often have authority similar to a captain or act as a similar figure if the captain is available
And are similar to apothecaries in certain matters, able to overrule a captains authority
are Chaos Chaplains a thing?
i see
Often very charismatic and leading cultists and what not or winning over locals as they can
Chaplains similarly are taught to be orators and how to galvanize different imperium forces they might fight with
wait was Uralon a Dark apostle in Rogue trader?
Yeah
Getting rid of Exalted Champions was cringe
chaplains are cool but i dont like the skull aesthetic
40k is already so saturated with skulls
A giant serrated chain sword
Either it's an imperial night of khorne or
Just an imperial knight
They said it was organic
Obliterator?
The chainsword is a pretty iconic design, and it leaves many avant-garde engineers in the 41st Millennium looking for ways to spice up their inventory. This limb clearly takes influence from the Vashthaus school of postmodern design and genetor entries into the art world from the late 740.M41s, by marrying the organic with the artificial as a commentary on the dualistic nature of life in the 41st Millennium.
my Final guess is an Obliterator
A WE obliterated maybe?
Maybe
I'm calling it to be an Emperor's Children deamon unit
would be cool to finally get updated Mutilators too
Yeah but it doesn’t match the usual Slaanesh weapon style
True, but nor do I think it's specifically any god's style
Exactlyyyy
And yet, they call it art
I rest my case
chain weapons are the unofficial mascot of khorne given the amount of his special characters that use chain weapons
They are brutal and lack subtlety
Doesn't look to be a chain weapon either, just a blade with teeth
And they spill blood everywhere when you hit some of them
Tbf that is also them saying it might not even be a chainsword lol
i was making a joke on how what he said is similar on the post
Got it
so honestly it can be a toss up between Khorne or Slannesh
I’m throwin this in anything
But I’m still gonna die on the hill that the hands in that liquid is fulgrim
it's definitely 100% chaos
it's an Organic Chainsword
damn it why did you Reveal my face bro come on
We’ll leave you with the sound of motors revving past the horizon, and the promise of more reveals for the Ironhead Squat Prospectors in the very near future…
Blessing from Necromunda, tonight we celebrate
I really need a (not-)Bugman for them though
Why do they always have lots of mouths
funky body horror
So you more mouths to kiss 😘
Necromunda continues to get the best minis
The chapter is a subdivision of the legion.
Oh yeha finally figured out my kruleboyz lore, they are in chamon and their venom turns you into Iron pyrite
I know
But 40k has rotted my rbain
r/brain
hey you went went with my my suggestion
Yee :3
and that sounds cool
that's a great idea
Iron pyrate poison is pretty sick
But all their stuff is actually made of fake gold, they managed to enslave duardin in order to build their gear out of said fools gold
Of course it’s dog shit quality but it’s made of gold so they are happy with it
so these guys value their equipment more than usual right?
Unlike the usual one that will just throw away their stuff if it gets the compromised
Their equipment would be more of a flex of wealth I assume
Ooo I paint their shields gold
Or like, dull gold
I mean their personality of getting rid of their weapons and stuff isn't really apparent on these guys
Fair
yeah since they like showing off their stuff I feel like they also don't like it when they lose that stuff
so the mentality of having cheap and easy to replace stuff isn't really common with them
Oh it’s like
Greenish too
“Why is your gold green?”
“Greenz da best”
Would they scam chaos dwarves with trh gold or enslave dwarves to make stuff out of the gold?
enslave
chaos Dwarves being dwarves can definitely tell if it's fake gold
after all they are experts with that type of stuff
so better try to enslave dwarves than try to deal with them with the fake gold
is iron pyrite a soft metal?
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moderately hard
Harder than gold at least
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yeah it's between 6 and 6.5 on the Mohs hardness scale
so is each regiment in the guard lead by a general?
or are the generals part of a separate group?
General are part of the Imperial Guard structure, but they are higher than a Regiment iirc
the lexicon said there is a general staff that will be in charge of many seperate regiments but im confused as to where those in the general staff comes from
Lower Officers tend to come from the same planet, but from 'Nobler' blood
so is there a standard rank that would be in over all command of a single regiment or does it vary world to world?
Think regiments are led by a colonel
Colonel for a Regiment
Castelan for multiples
and the castellans form the general staff or is that above the castellans?
Castellan is the highest of the General staff
ah
Also ranks aren’t super consistent with what they lead and sometimes regiments have unique terms
I'm Curious. Has there been an jokes said in universe by like guardsmen or something to lighten the mood? If so what are some?

lol
Ork biddies
I have seen worse
whys is half of the warhammer hobby content so click baty
baity
' I RUINED my space marines
'how eldar became the WORST faction to paint'
Warhammer fans are easy to appease
And a lot of content creators use this to their advantage
Mostly targeting the people that don't know any better
fair
theres so many channels that pray on new people its pretty sad
for hobby and lore
Yeah it's absolutely revolting
tabletop gameplay is ina d iffernet catagory
since most popele who make clickbait content cant play lmao
i feel like salamanders and dark angels are the most click baited chapters
Yeah tabletop is mostly safe it's the lore where people are exploited the most
It's what a lot of people go in warhammer for
God the amount of shit lore TikTok’s I’ve seen
This one dude in particular
He’s so authoritative too about it
Like he’s saying something that’s well researched and he ever looked into
hey did chaos space mairnes get a new model when they got thier codex?
oh yeah
the chaos lrod with jump pack
yeah tik tok is hell
"You wont BELIEVE what this dark angels does"
And then its just a dark angel doing dark angels things
It’s really dumb stuff too
Don't bring in a new guy in here
I already have used too much brain space for major kill alone
Like saying the one marine who gets killed by the cultist in SM2 is the redemptor dread you see later
Like
No
He died, they say so, and the Redemptor and Titus don’t have any rapport
You don’t survive a rebar through the eye lmao
'did you space marines arent that evil? The salamanders are-'
Tbh some dudes probably could but they talk about him being dead after
He’s very dead
Yes the things people say that will result in me ripping out their throat
Also there’s a small memorial on the ship for this marine, which is a much cooler fact to me
Omg guys Lamenters, Salamders, and Tau are so wholesome chungus
Yeah they talk about fighting Tau with him
Chaos lord with jump pack, chaos lord
The dread has his name on his chassis lol
'who is the most evil space marine chapter? The black legion is a space marine chatper of-'
A month before iirc
legi ta rela video
wait they had special rules?
Agony
Yes?
I mean hey people like phineas gage exist
oh i thought they were a reskin of a unit
I was actually thinking oh him lol
Yeah I’d guess that his brain would be in no condition to fight, in dreadnought or not lmao
But you can proxy them easily at least
He’s not the only wild case like that either
Since the big chainsword = heavy melee
So the ork kill team the first one, Is Goffs
I don’t understand this
The second one is also goffs
You know the orks that despise stealth
It’s goffs all the way down
make them a body guard unit, just to protect your leader
Oh that
Yeah idfk why they chose goffs
or the locus (which is terible but still)
Okay the second one i understand they are Tank bustas that carry around large melee weapons
For killteam
No
oh
So it makes sense for them to carry large weapons and stuff and having a heavy armor
That’s for 40k
The first one
Killteam has unconventional poster children
Why
i didnt se ehte killteam part sorry
Unlike 40k lol
Why Goffs
Stealthier ones
Like the blood axe is right there
Goffs also have a really great scheme tbh
Some weird necron dynasty that had 0 lore
Hard to blame them
Weird orang vespids
I mean yeah it looks cool but like really the clan that despises stealth as a stealth team?
Like the second one makes sense
They are demolitionist and are very loud
The first one?
Not so much
It's just like so weird to me
Blood Axes would be more sense
But it’s how it is
Same reason they use Ultras for most marine releases
I think orks are the only big miss for KT’s like
Chosen subfaction
Marines are like Raptors/UM/Raven guard
Necrons are a dynasty so stealthy everyone forgot they existed despite the sick scheme
Tau being vior’la is meh
Seeing non Sautekh or Szarekhan is always a trip
That's the worst part the way they are colored mix them look extremely blood axe
The fact it’s both a non metallic scheme + non sautekh/szerakahn is fun
Like there is not a single drop of Goff in this
Tbf they are Ork Kommandos
Not being in clique with the rest of the clan is basically their MO
Yeah honestly i don't even care it's just what one of those weird decisions GW makes
Just a bit weird
Yeah I agreed
Like a clan notorious for hating stuff like sneaking around and tactics have a kill team that uses the group that loves tactics?
Weird ass decision but all right
I was honestly expecting a freeboota killteam tbh
Honestly a ranged ork kill team with Flash gits would be fun
Straight up every single ork kill team right now is straight up designed to go in front of the enemy and tear them open a new one
It's very much is but hey i want to see the face of the person i'm playing with contort into an angry hippopotamus as a literally drown the entire board within a fire power to wipeout his entire team
the TRUTH
Man
OMG HES PAITNING THE EASIEST FUCKING NID MODEL TO PAINT
WHY IS HE ACTING LIKE 'never evr do this'
you paitn them 3 colors
That's just an insult
Does he highlight
This looks like he used the fill in tool in real life
How the hell does the slap chop method of painting look more detailed than this
Why is it a rule you cant field unpainted units
hes nice he is fine
Is there like an actual reason
so you dont just buy the strongest models and throw them on the board
you go into the store, leave, build the models, then come back the next day to win a tourtement
thats why you paitn 3 colors
Theyre just pre heresy death guard i swear
Ohhhh i get it
you have to have 3 colors
So like tau fish of fury
Can you imagine playing against an unpainted mega gargant?
People dont just buy tau and win
Inb4 we just headcanon the unpainteds as Alpha Legion in disguise 
yea
Yes i can imagine my army being decimated by giant grey blobs
Yeah i just was curious
thats why comp teams either looks amazing (they paid someone to paint their models) or look like a rattle can's murder (they airbushed 3 layers)
Painting is one of the sacred funs of warhammer
back in the day how well your army was painted gave you bonus points
I usually dont paint minis because of the cost but im getting a intro set for my birthday so it seems like good fun
I should try painting someday
If the models don't cost an arm and a leg here 
Yeah its literally only the cost
australlia?
And storage...
Close
SEA
My 600 ft nyc apartment cant handle it
damnnn
'ehy guys, today ill be playing warhammer in anartica!'
'just, gotta, wait for the models'
Last time I saw a regular Primaris Ultramarine box it was like, $90 ish?

dont be afraid to buy off ebay or websites that sell them in a different plastic
thats psychotic
there is a reason why 3d printing and buying them in a different place is very popular
Gw and their god damn prices
Phobos strike team is 85 on amazon
oh killteams are so fucked right now
they are like insanity to buy right now
I was trying to look at the gw store and it seems like theyre super unavailable rn
gw included pieces of cardboard in their boxes so now they cost twice as much
Hol the fuk up
They sellin a Primaris Lieutenant for $25.50 wtf
Local online store
oh ice
Looks promising, still hella pricey for 1 damn unit ah
oh yeah, thats from alst editions starter box
waht army do you want to play
?
there is always always ways to save money on armies, mainly through second hand
Mate they are selling something that looks like that one uncle you don't invite in family gatherings for this much

the MODERN model is half the pirce and 3 times beteter looking btw
oh my bad
30 bucks cheaper
but still
See thats the problem
I want Necrons
And the rank and file box costs almost $60
Dear Lordy
necrons are one of the most second hand sold armies int eh game
Either Necrons or CSM really
ebay 'necrons lot'
also you should only ever buy like, 500 points at a time at most
Bro the faction leader of the giant is also still cheaper
HAHAHH
thats wonderful
It really is
also
you can use these guys in any destruction army
or you can use them in death, order, or chaos
depending on the one you have
once skaven tide starts dropping in price i might consider getting a skaven army, but ive never been too sold on them
They are conceptually and lore wise
The most original thing gw has
it is
That's why i like them they are their own unique thing
they are wonderufl
im just not sure if im a general fan i guess
i think they lack a social element i like in armies
like their interactions with other factions
They are pure evil backstabbing weasels that will not hesitate to bite your tail and strangle you with it if it means even getting just an inch ahead of you
Yeah like they are absolutely most of the time doing their thing
maybe i can make my custom clan just like
running an underground black market maybe?
idk
Yeah like personality wise they are not so flexible
Like backstabbing and being so evil is literally ingrained in them
I can fix them
there is an entire short story explaining why dark oath would even try to work with them
Do they know that even among chaos skaven have a reputation of you know
they are also extremely dependant on their own clans
Stabbing someone in the back
and internal cultures
moulders, skyre, pestalince, and what ever else tehre was
i do really relaly like their regiments of renown
I mean they literally breed like rats
They will have almost always have a numbers advantage against their enemy
So they can get away with relying on their own
And not having to interact with other people
Yeah shooty fighty
And straight up frankenstein
In old world the four skaven clans were a thing
The pestilence
The skyre
The moulder and the assassin wants that apparently came from japan
They somehow gave a rat a receding hairline
I commend their creativity
krittok's main downside was that you can make him not be a leader basically
make him loose his ability to provide buffs
but in return maek him hit hard
which doesnt seem great for a hrode army
but when he comands like 2 guys, its a very worthy exchange
You can field him as both a leader and a hero?
its the same thing, you can make himm more killy but not let him issue commands
so if he was your warlord
you just
loose out on commands
Yeah but i don't expect him to stand up to someone like Gotrek or Gordrakk
On a head on fight
Eshin
Thank you i forgot the weeb rats name
Storm vermin?
Yeah
They didn't really have a clan unless you are talking about Queek
He's from where was it again
clan mors
Eshins grandmaster is called Nightlord Sneek which is peak warhammer naming
Storm vermin in Clan mors are Prized for being good
And even have a special organ that allows them to enter to some kind of rage
And they have loyalty
Like the other clans look at this as like some kind of sorcery because how are they loyal
China in last lore
Do not even remind me of fictional china having a special wall that keeps the bad things out as one of its central lore points
Because i will feed you to a tortoise
Don't worry, I have my issues with Cathay too
I hate it's magic theory, it just fucking suck and they could still have done their Chinese elements while actually having it be fitting 
Hey guys what should we make this entire faction that is based on china be
The great wall
It's literally just china but great wall
The good chi flows in and the bad chi flows out
and FILL it with stereotypes

lets be so indirectly racist they cant even TELL what its from
Let's make one of the game mechanics based on the already used teaching of ying and yang
Jesus christ
and lets make yang brother obsessed with miltiary dictatorships and the yin sister be about fucking peace and waht ever
yep
is this the most racist thing the Total war team has ever made?
How do you feel about it
Well, it' still GW who made it
Meh
I feel like it could have been executed better
I think it’s meh
Asthetic wise needs more gold if they want to really get like
Warhammer exaggerated with it
Why so much silver
becuase they arent eurpoean therefore arent allowed gold </3
You would think with Gelt moving in there they would have more gold but nope
The aesthetic is like
what country is gelt anyway?
Tillea iirc
A fucked up combo of Ming and Song dynasty China
So Italy
What did gw mean when the italian scammed the pirates with fake gold
Where was Gelt during ww2?
and, why is italy best friends with the german faction...
In comparison to Chinese dynastic stuff
Oh it's not the Italian that matter there
god damn it gw
Or a faction starting by p
Nippon?
The chinese man has spoken Cathay is only very stereotypical
Japan
Glorious zhong guo wins again
Where the assassin's rats and learned how to do assassin things
and wh yare they all white
When I learnt that Cathay had 12 province a long time ago I had hoped that they would each be themed on a different animal of the Chinese Zodiac, with 4 of them being the colour animals at the same time, and the Rat province being owned by the Skaven
Sanyo Kawasaki and his legendary sword of Toyota
thanks GW
I'm glad you've gotten better
Jesus christ
Cathay is honestly not that offensive imo
Which has been changed since, now they learnt everyting from Catahy
I
its kind of like
a charming level of racism lol
Thank goodness gw improve
Listen kawasaki is a good brand
this is so fucking stipid
We need to bring it up every once in a while to laugh at it
im so angry
On your opinion what part of its lore is the most giga racist
Uh
its still racist is the pronlem
yeah
the only one that isn't is like The Empire
Theyre british what do you expect
Bretonia is def kind of racist
because they are european
Okay but British people in WHFB
are literally a bunch of chaos worshiping savages
generally
💀
We made these orcs to be slave so what we call them
BLACK ORCS
Just like in rl
literally putting the orcs and beastmen in countreis like the middle east and new world makes me so pissed
its so bad
Turkey belonging to Skarsnik
Beastmen are everywhere not in countries
Araby still is human
Mayanaztec lizars people
What does that f****** mean
the whole obsession with Dragon + yin/yang + honor thing lmao
but whatever
That is fair
pretty much all western media of Medival/dynastic China or fantasy China does this
Pretty much all chinese mythology also does this
not really on the honor + dragon stuff
yin and yang yeah
they should have made Yin and Yang, 風水
Dragon's are certainly a big theme
to make it even more complex and funny
yeah but not in the way its done in like Cathay in WHFB
or shit like Mulan lol
idk
im just glad old world can live in its own bubble so aos doenst have to associate wiht it
I swear if they release the monkey king as a dlc lord and all of his abilities are just a rip off of blackmyth wukong
to see a weird and fucked up version if your own culture
I am going to be laughing
Yooo
his rod better be able to reach the moon
smh
Yep it better be
oh also Kung Fu Panda
lmao
but that one is pretty respectful overall
I love Kung Fu Panda
Hell one of the questions in china when it was released was why can't we make something like this
It was just that good in respectful to people that they genuinely wondered why they can't make something like that
Its really well done lol
Its a very classic Kung Fu movie
but for kids + with animals
The fourth movie definitely didn't hit though
I also like the fact kung fu masters use weapons
I tried the 4th but dropped it in less than 15 min
Yeah and the furious 5 are animals of the styles they use
Who knew tigress uses the tiger style
My favorite weapon is the budget kratos blades of General Kai
lol
I dont really have as much say as other parts of my extended family, but im realted to Native Americans and seeing media for decades dig up and make the same stereotypes is just obseenly aggrivating. I dont expect gw to know or really care about other countries or culture but i think making parts of the US that mostly belong to the reservations chaos corrupted lands nips be rpetty bad
of course i dont speak for everyone, i like beastmen and i think they have a place
Again, beastmen are literally everywhere in WHf
They're not even specifically a new world faction
youknow what i mean
No, I don't.
Beastmen aren't even that common in the Lustria
There are Native Human factions, but they're repressed by the Dark Elfs
Yeah gw writing was not the best at certain times
Thank goodness they are bettering themselves though
yeah
水滸傳 is one of the funniest Chinese novels for one reason, in the list of eighteen tradtional weapons for martial arts
it lists gun
as in just the word gun
I mean it's effective and works
Well, is it wrong
aos does something similar every once in a while, which inst as bad as aos but still isnt great
No its not wrong at all lol
but its the only one to list actual firearms on the list of 18 traditional weapons for martial arts
lol
lmao
Tiger technique bullets of heaven
like, spear, axe, bow and arrows, swords, ect. and then in the 10th spot its just gun
not the characters for the staff refered to as "gun" romanized chinese
but like
actual gun
Lol
10/10 would read again
Another about Cathay is that the way it's going forward, it seem like they'll all be Chinese Dragon transforming children
Except the Monkey Prince
downside of 水滸傳 is the book is kind of misogynistic
but like what a surprise, ancient china is misogynistic?
no way
Why did you think lord shen almost conquered china
i cant make any input on chinese history, my world history teacher was obseenly racist
He got that strap on the ready
unfortunate
Did the school do anything with him or?
Let him stay
let him stay
Shit
I think that explains why a good chunk of american kids grow a bit too racist
Just letting a teacher like that exist isn't a good look
he also made us call him sir and gave a kid an A because she quoted the bible in her history papre
'paper' as in like 4 paragaphs
guh
anyways if you ever want to read Chinese classic literature I highly recomend
https://www.amazon.com/Water-Margin-Outlaws-Classic-Classics/dp/0804840954
i hated her guts lmao
thats prolly the most accurate translation to english
imo
having read it in both Chinese and English now
lol
ill def give a read when ever i have time 
https://youtu.be/R8FSm4WXkUQ?si=AMfO7MX5jXEi_pTA
Honestly all i think about when i imagine your teacher is the white supremacist in red dead redemption
Ayoo what? #xbox #xboxseriess #xboxseriesx #gaming #rdr2
Yeah man that looks so good
mhm
i need ot buy ruination chamber tho tbh
i just saw a warhammer 40k apocalypse box on ebay
damn those were good deals
a 5th of all warhammer accounts are subscirbed to warhammer plus
gw's biggest worry atm is people using their IP to damage their business.
interesting
they dont even mention third party stuff
I love how they're jade swords as well
Jade weapons in general look sick
Almost as if they don’t want to be missing out on all the money the SFM creators made through Patreon…
If only GW took a leaf from Asian gaming companies, and celebrated fan work by directly sponsoring them to become advertisers, instead of…what they are doing now.
They said they are worried about people using their IPs to damage their company imagine, this must be corporate talk for ‘we got a bad community :(‘
GW when a fan made an animation out of the goodness of their heart
Sadly being dishonest with themselves led them to the wrong conclusion. They might as well say “we got a right wing fans problem” and do a better job applying solutions.
If nothing else, the absolutely comical nature of Text to Speech would be the best weapon in GW’s arsenal to demolish those Right Wing “40k IZ SERIOUS” nut jobs.
warhammer is a community ran game, you need to control what kind of communiteis form aroudn your game
If rather they be overly protective than not
A lot for that overly protective nature has led us to this current time where we’re getting some great stuff
And potentially more
if you make yoru setting all comical than it makes taking the setting seriously harder
And what’s more, I can expect it’s going to stay true to the general dark vibe of 40k
It might not
Maybe Amazon if the deal goes through will fumble it
id rather have good books and block people on twitter
But it gives me more hope than not
than have scifi blood bowl be the main setting
Also as far as I’m aware there’s no examples of them taking down fan animations
i agree
I dont think amazon would fuck up 40k if we do get a show eventually
Beyond hiring the dude involved
The stuff like SODAZ was community harassment
Not GW
i cant think of an example thats true lmao
And Astartes they basically bought his property
oh besides when their content was being reposted on youtube
Yeah obviously
yea
And even that it’s easy to find tech




