#40k-lore-chat

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arctic talon
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Meh

tough haven
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I thought it could tide me over until admech 2

arctic talon
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I got what I expected out of it

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Bolterporn the game

crystal forum
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still over here playing darktide instead

tough haven
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SM1 better

gray umbra
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Too bad bolters are bad in that game

tough haven
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I love being a average ass dude

crystal forum
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calm down jim

arctic talon
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SM1 Unironicially has a better story lol

tough haven
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I think they are fairly strong

outer wave
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Guys I cant wait for SM3 where Im doing more of the same of SM2 but with a new faction to fight

arctic talon
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But I don’t think people supporting the imperium is GW’s fault

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Necessarily

gray umbra
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Darktide gives me a certain feeling when i run through hab block dreyko with a flamer

arctic talon
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It’s people being dumb as shit

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More so

tough haven
crystal forum
arctic talon
arctic talon
outer wave
languid meadow
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I mean Sm2 has the dark aspects of the imperium but like newer 40k editions it's no longer super obvious and isn't the center anymore (which sucks ngl)

gray umbra
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The artifact..

crystal forum
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you'd know?

arctic talon
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In newer editions

languid meadow
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Ok toned down from previous ed

arctic talon
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They literally servitorize an entire crew of communications officers

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In the core rule book

arctic talon
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It literally isn’t

crystal forum
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how hard do tau fuck specifically

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do i have to look this up

gray umbra
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Sm2 was just designed to be mass consumption slop

arctic talon
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I think it’s deranged people think GW have toned back the grimdark when it’s literally the same

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Hell a book released in 9e literally has a servitor factory

outer wave
arctic talon
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Described

languid meadow
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all right fine I concede

arctic talon
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In disgusting detail lol

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Like

crystal forum
gray umbra
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Love that game to death but it was 100 percent meant to get people to buy more minis

arctic talon
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No

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I’m posting the servitor factory lore

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BRB

outer wave
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There he goes

gray umbra
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:smarf:

outer wave
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Going to talk about the serivtor factory story again......

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I jest, I havent heard it

languid meadow
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it's fun

gray umbra
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I love servitors

tough haven
languid meadow
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those types of Imperium fans are something else

arctic talon
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The cold smell hit me like a brick. Like a meat store, where astringents can’t hide the smell of incipient rot. There were notes of faeces to go with the blood and decay. The sound was the worst. Shouting, screaming, praying, weeping, all the cries of human terror and misery.

I’m not a squeamish man, and nor do I spare tears for those who deserve punishment, but what I saw in that processorium haunts me still. Naked human beings were standing in a switchbacked line between high fences. Outside the fences Adeptus Mechanicus menials in environment suits stood guard with shock goads in hand. The people, all mature men and women, were shepherded down the caged walk like livestock. And they were food beasts being led to the slaughter, meat for the ravenous appetite of the Machine-God. I grew up lucky enough to eat real meat. I was unlucky enough to see where it came from – another gift of my father on another damn tour of my family’s various businesses. The manufactorum produced servitors, but it was more akin to an abattoir than a workshop. Every surface was easily cleanable. Large plastek flaps divided areas from each other. Servitors with spray units surgically attached to their backs prowled about, hosing filth into slit drains set into the perfectly smooth, slanted floors. We walked above all this, past sentry pods on spikes occupied by galvanic rifle-armed snipers. Our path went from one end of the hall to the other, and I could see pretty much the whole sorting process, beginning to end.

As the line slowly advanced, the people were passed through various scanning devices, most of them mounted in ugly, functional arches that let out a constant series of acceptance chimes. Occasionally, one would let out an angry blare, and the indicator lumens would flash red. The rejected person was then swallowed up by a trapdoor opening beneath their feet. From these pits wafted a hideous stench, and the grinding sounds of industrial mincers. One rejected man grabbed on to the lip and hung there, arms and hands bloodied, shouting a stream of defiant profanities. Guards lined the grating either side of him and shocked him until he fell. The adepts wouldn’t even waste bullets on these people.

The trapdoor flipped up, and the next terrified person was ushered forward. A number of pneumatic gates separated the people from each part of the process, snapping open and shut with bone-crushing force. Violent metal arms snatched them up and spread-eagled them in the air, and a servitor shearer shaved them all over. At another they were subjected to a high-pressure counterseptic wash whose chemical stink made me choke from a hundred feet away. More scanners, more rejects winnowed out. Machines forcibly dressed them in the heavy rubberised garments common to all mono-tasked servitors. These were saggy on them, all one size, until another process force-shrank them to fit their bodies where metal cuffs, sockets and collars bit into vulnerable flesh.

The last few prayers gave way to screams at that point, and even the most stoic shouted in pain. They were ushered over a floor buzzing with power that made them shriek with every footstep. ‘What’s that for?’ I asked. Djelling answered only reluctantly. ‘Follicular inhibitor. To stop their hair growing,’ he said. ‘How?’ I asked. Djelling was done answering. ‘Come, come, this way.’ He waved me over to a door. I didn’t come this way. I watched numbly. The shivering lines of terrified men and women reached a final series of gates, where a high-energy augur beam of such potency it made my dataslate buzz passed over them. Dazed, they were manhandled into different queues, and then hustled from the room to their fates. Djelling gripped my elbow with surprising strength and pushed me out of the hall. ‘This way. Please,’ he said. Thankfully, I was spared a view of the surgeries. I doubted the Adeptus Mechanicus provided anaesthetic, for the same reasons they would not dull the pain of a nail under the hammer

gray umbra
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Dear god

outer wave
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Tech priests when

They see bad human

crystal forum
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elitewolf sleep

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i cast sleep

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GO MELATONIN

arctic talon
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No

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It’s not even past 8:00 yet

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Smh

tough haven
arctic talon
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This is also the same book with some other gross servitor lore

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But yeah GW is totally less grimdark now

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I’m sure

gray umbra
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I think i remember an excerpt about some nobles son who visits a mechanicus base and he pisses them off so much they kidnap him

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And talks about how they just sever his frontal cortex

languid meadow
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that's why you don't anger the people who know how to turn you into a door

outer wave
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I wish there were fuckin'

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Fortress serivtors that run a whole ass fortress

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Just one guy

outer wave
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Question: space marines dont typically believe that god emperor is a god right? Why or how do chaplains exist then?

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Is it more that they find his teachings holy but not the guy himself?

languid meadow
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depends on the chapter

outer wave
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Lets go with Ultramarines since Im watching Cali play SM2

languid meadow
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I think firstborn generally don't believe in the emperors godhood and primaris from mars being the ones that are into the whole worship business (This is not 100% since marines believe in different things)

gray umbra
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I think theyre mostly there to reaffirm loyalty to the cause

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They like help maintain the spiritual and psychological health of the chapter

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So i guess theyre kinda the hypeman

outer wave
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Team psychologist and psychiatrist

outer wave
languid meadow
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I think yes

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at least the ones from mars

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I bet the ones from the homeworlds are more like firstborn (this could also be wrong)

outer wave
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I see

languid meadow
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wait I think I found something

outer wave
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That must be weird to teach them that the emperor is not a god despite the amount of religious books and sermons given by chaplains

gray umbra
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Obviously its differsnt per chapter and some chaptsrs do different things

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Its also to make sure theres no corruption

outer wave
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Yeah that makes sense to check on corruption within the ranks

gray umbra
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Cant have your space marines thinking too much on their own

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Or else they start to question things

crisp heath
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What part of the emperor did angron inherit?

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I know it’s not his fury cause that’s a nail thing

gray umbra
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His tiny pp

crisp heath
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I was thinking empathy

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Since he had a weird power

languid meadow
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gonna try to find the excerpt

ebon imp
outer wave
arctic talon
ebon imp
gray umbra
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Thats a better way of putting it

crisp heath
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Chaplains in the us army are as much faith ministers as they are emotional support

low gazelle
crisp heath
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What i thought of 40k chaplains, just not religious and more dogmatic

outer wave
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I see I see

lapis verge
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From what I gather Chaplains are usually more dogmatic in keeping morale yes

Tho some chapters tend to have... more fanatically religious Chaplains

gray umbra
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40k just really likes the religious undertones

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And aesthetic

lapis verge
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Which is ironic considering Big E wanted everyone to be a rational atheist KEKW_ogryn

outer wave
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I get that but considering that space marines generally arent one to believe the emperor was a god, I thought it was strange that they do have a chaplain giving out religious sermons

gray umbra
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Irony is the chaplains and lex divinatus are from the word bearers

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And look at them now :smarf:

tough haven
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Irrational atheism on top

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Secular insanity

lapis verge
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I think the more recent Primaris do see the Emperor as a god, yes

But won't the Firstborns still view him not as a god, considering some of them were around to know what he actually thinks?

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Actually, a homebrew Loyalist chapter that doesnt see the Emps as a god would be interesting

arctic talon
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Primaris are mostly the same as firstborn

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In terms of beliefs

ebon imp
gray umbra
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||Leandros|| is a cunt but got damn can he preach

ebon imp
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Where toward the end game, u would have such Chaplin deliever a sermon, but I don't recall it was religious in nature at all

lapis verge
arctic talon
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Constantly suspicious

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Incredibly strict

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Knows space book inside and out

lapis verge
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After what happened in SM1 I damn wish we got a game as the Space Wolves

Just so I can see a Space Wolf flip off an inquisitor

sacred ginkgo
languid meadow
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Emperor bless Ulfar

lapis verge
# sacred ginkgo

4 gigabytes

that's not enough bytes for even half a SW kill team!

crystal forum
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@arctic talon did you get to print the gamma pistol yet nerd

arctic talon
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No

crystal forum
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i should improve it

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i have gotten better since i made it

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and if you dont make one soon i'll be forced to find your place of residence and leave one on your doorstep with a note attached containing merely a single drop of blood

opaque coyote
outer wave
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I wonder how many of those that make up the death watch are from traitor legions

crystal forum
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that's up to you to decide

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literally

outer wave
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I believe there are still Iron Warriors that arent traitors within the Death Watch

opaque coyote
outer wave
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Who are they?

soft thunder
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I'm pretty sure I've heard of at least a couple chapters that are speculated to be loyalist iron warrior geneseed

outer wave
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Damn they take on Perturabo's seed and suddenly they're all bitter assholes

rose thorn
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hewwo chat

opaque coyote
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Unlike those who takes on the Emperor's seed

outer wave
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I really like that Perty's issue is just himself being himself

rose thorn
# opaque coyote

hey was there like, any way the non traitors of trator legions showed their alliegence?

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or was it a 'oh fuck IW' pop pop

opaque coyote
outer wave
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Basically true

opaque coyote
rose thorn
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ye of cours e

opaque coyote
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Although, the Raven Guard and White Scars had issues with traitors within their ranks, and the Dark Angels obviously had the Fallen to deal with after the Horus Heresy

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But generally

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"OH SHIT IRON WARRIOR!"

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BLAM

rose thorn
opaque coyote
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Because he knew full well that they wouldn't convince anyone

rose thorn
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'look both shit sucks'

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i might build firstborn into hh as WS, they wear eagels

opaque coyote
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"However, one literally has daemons that torture people randomly. So the Imperium is slightly better"

rose thorn
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so no need to shave

opaque coyote
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I still find it funny that Chaos is basically only slightly less worse overall

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Compared to the Imperium

rose thorn
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also firstborn bikes are dirt cheap

rose thorn
crystal forum
rose thorn
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note white scars are thes ame people who laugh while they behead people

outer wave
rose thorn
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and collect their hands

crystal forum
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i wont im a coward

outer wave
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Sadge

sour hornet
crystal forum
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they just want power for themselves

sour hornet
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Like you're siding with creepy hellspirits and yet you're the good guys? Bruh.

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Unserious people.

crystal forum
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horus at the very beginning was only convinced by erebus when he showed a futur where the emperor is worshiped instead of horus

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it's all selfish bullshit

outer wave
sour hornet
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Wearing flayed skin and adorning your machines with rotting corpses and chains of skulls.

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Hmm...

crystal forum
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my favorite is in fall of cadia when a traitor says he'll liberate the cadians and then proceeds to swing a chain sword

sour hornet
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Very unserious people to go around claiming your goal is to liberate when your name is "Thrashgore the Vilehand"

opaque coyote
crystal forum
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nobody's a winner in 40k

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only trazyn wins

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this is a hard fact

outer wave
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Yeah tbf the Imperium actively genocides entire worlds that dont comply with them, or do but they've been doing things like conversing with friendly aliens

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Or worse of course

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Servitor creation is a thing under their rule

sour hornet
crystal forum
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people keep bringing up servitors as if 99% of a hive world's population living below famine standards isn't dark enough

sour hornet
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SM2 doesn't help with that though.

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Literally just a "good guys save the world" plot.

outer wave
crystal forum
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not even just the underhive

sour hornet
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That's just standard dystopia stuff.

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Servitors are unneeded cruelty.

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Like there is no reason you need lobotmized servants instead of just making better stuff. But that is what the setting is about.

outer wave
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Anyway I cant believe Madrgus Babymuncher is a bad guy who joined chaos!!!!

languid meadow
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Average night lord name

soft thunder
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Gorzugack Flem-Fist devoted himself to Nurgle? An unforeseen twist.

outer wave
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Shittitus Plegm-farttius has joined Nurgle!!!

crystal forum
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who could have expected the short primarchs to be sneaky turn coats

soft thunder
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Vulkan pride

crystal forum
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HORUS HAS JOINED CHAOS

outer wave
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SEXYIUS CUMMICUS HAS JOINED SLAANESH

crystal forum
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/votekick horus
-rogal dorn

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1/5

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3/5

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votekick cancelled by insufficient votes

outer wave
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I can only imagine the voice chat

crystal forum
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i would have way too much fun recreating the HH as an fps lobby if i was given the budget

outer wave
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I will give you 3 dollars

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That is your budget

crystal forum
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next year when i learn video editing prob

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still in my 3d modelling phase

tough haven
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Actually lots of necrons just vibe

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Like my favorite Zandrekh, he is living the psychosis lifestyle

median star
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maybe im just not looking in the right places but what ranks or denomination is this helmet supposed to represent to the ultra marines and is it ultra marine specific

dusk patrol
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It’s something others use but that helmet is obviously Ultramarine colored

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But in general other chapters can and do use similar things

median star
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ye but i assume its to signify some sort of rank right

dusk patrol
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Seems like it’s generally a Captain thing

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Cato obviously is the most obvious example

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But it could be a lower rank thing too

low gazelle
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Is there any scene where all sons bow before the big e

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Cause all of them in one frame pre heresy would.go hard

dusk patrol
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Besides on Terra before they scattered all the primarchs were never in the same place

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Ullanor was the largest gathering

low gazelle
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Holy sh imagine if the big e rezzes reconnects with the traitorous sons. Then faces off against the chaos gods in one huge battle with all primarchs

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It's impossible

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But a sick af what if battle

low gazelle
low gazelle
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Would go hard on a multi piece glass pane

dusk patrol
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There was 21

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And also no

low gazelle
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Honestly might be worth making

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But how much it'd go for

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If officially licensed

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Maan

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But who tf would.even buy it

warm comet
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What are space marine chaplains? Like literally just chaplains in armour?

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Do they fight?

sour hornet
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When they need to.

low gazelle
sour hornet
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Typically no, though.

low gazelle
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So iif a chapter has a traitor space mariine or is suspected of

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you typically report that mariine to a chaplain

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A typical chapter has 1k space marines

warm comet
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How do they get chosen? Just the particularly holy ones? Lol

warm comet
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Or is it like the trope of the priest that is secretly really good at fighting

low gazelle
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Well

dusk patrol
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They’re very effective fighters

low gazelle
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those who are strict with the codex

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and

dusk patrol
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They’re all marines and they’re always veterans of the chapter

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Chaplains unlike other specialist roles generally aren’t chosen early on

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And instead marines as they rise in the ranks might be selected to try to become one

low gazelle
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Theyll be siignified with a black shoulder pauldron

dusk patrol
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They wear all black armor

low gazelle
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Do they?

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II thougght succesors are marked viia one bblack shoulder

dusk patrol
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Some choose different

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But it’s almost always all black

dusk patrol
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They both look for and root out corruption in a marine and also make sure they’re able to effectively fight and continue their service

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How they do this varies a lot by chapter

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But they have a lot of authority

celest dome
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Basically Commissar for the SM

dusk patrol
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They can often have authority similar to a captain or act as a similar figure if the captain is available

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And are similar to apothecaries in certain matters, able to overrule a captains authority

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Dark Apostles

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Generally Word Bearers

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Often very charismatic and leading cultists and what not or winning over locals as they can

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Chaplains similarly are taught to be orators and how to galvanize different imperium forces they might fight with

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Yeah

gaunt mortar
crystal forum
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chaplains are cool but i dont like the skull aesthetic

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40k is already so saturated with skulls

dusk patrol
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What’s that?

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More skulls you said?

rose thorn
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Khorne

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Khrone demon? Khrone possessed?

queen laurel
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Either it's an imperial night of khorne or

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Just an imperial knight

rose thorn
queen laurel
rose thorn
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The chainsword is a pretty iconic design, and it leaves many avant-garde engineers in the 41st Millennium looking for ways to spice up their inventory. This limb clearly takes influence from the Vashthaus school of postmodern design and genetor entries into the art world from the late 740.M41s, by marrying the organic with the artificial as a commentary on the dualistic nature of life in the 41st Millennium.

queen laurel
rose thorn
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A WE obliterated maybe?

queen laurel
shadow plover
# rose thorn

I'm calling it to be an Emperor's Children deamon unit

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would be cool to finally get updated Mutilators too

rose thorn
shadow plover
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True, but nor do I think it's specifically any god's style

spare osprey
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I rest my case

queen laurel
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They are brutal and lack subtlety

shadow plover
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Doesn't look to be a chain weapon either, just a blade with teeth

queen laurel
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And they spill blood everywhere when you hit some of them

spare osprey
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Tbf that is also them saying it might not even be a chainsword lol

queen laurel
spare osprey
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Got it

queen laurel
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so honestly it can be a toss up between Khorne or Slannesh

spare osprey
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I’m throwin this in anything

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But I’m still gonna die on the hill that the hands in that liquid is fulgrim

queen laurel
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it's an Organic Chainsword

celest dome
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Could be Death

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For the Hand

queen laurel
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that's what the post suggest

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Armored Dwarfs

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yes

celest dome
queen laurel
celest dome
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We’ll leave you with the sound of motors revving past the horizon, and the promise of more reveals for the Ironhead Squat Prospectors in the very near future…
Blessing from Necromunda, tonight we celebrate

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I really need a (not-)Bugman for them though

warm comet
shadow plover
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funky body horror

radiant lance
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So you more mouths to kiss 😘

rose thorn
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I keep forgettting HH had chapters

rose thorn
queen laurel
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that shit is cookin

paper haven
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The chapter is a subdivision of the legion.

rose thorn
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Oh yeha finally figured out my kruleboyz lore, they are in chamon and their venom turns you into Iron pyrite

rose thorn
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But 40k has rotted my rbain

paper haven
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r/brain

queen laurel
rose thorn
queen laurel
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and that sounds cool

rose thorn
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They make you into fools gold

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They think they be da richest boyz around

queen laurel
paper haven
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Iron pyrate poison is pretty sick

rose thorn
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But all their stuff is actually made of fake gold, they managed to enslave duardin in order to build their gear out of said fools gold

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Of course it’s dog shit quality but it’s made of gold so they are happy with it

queen laurel
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Unlike the usual one that will just throw away their stuff if it gets the compromised

rose thorn
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Ooo I paint their shields gold

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Or like, dull gold

queen laurel
rose thorn
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Fair

queen laurel
# rose thorn Fair

yeah since they like showing off their stuff I feel like they also don't like it when they lose that stuff

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so the mentality of having cheap and easy to replace stuff isn't really common with them

rose thorn
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Oh it’s like

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Greenish too

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“Why is your gold green?”
“Greenz da best”

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Would they scam chaos dwarves with trh gold or enslave dwarves to make stuff out of the gold?

queen laurel
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chaos Dwarves being dwarves can definitely tell if it's fake gold

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after all they are experts with that type of stuff

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so better try to enslave dwarves than try to deal with them with the fake gold

plush mason
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is iron pyrite a soft metal?

tepid glacier
queen laurel
celest dome
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Harder than gold at least

tepid glacier
queen laurel
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yeah it's between 6 and 6.5 on the Mohs hardness scale

plush mason
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so is each regiment in the guard lead by a general?

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or are the generals part of a separate group?

celest dome
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General are part of the Imperial Guard structure, but they are higher than a Regiment iirc

plush mason
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the lexicon said there is a general staff that will be in charge of many seperate regiments but im confused as to where those in the general staff comes from

celest dome
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Lower Officers tend to come from the same planet, but from 'Nobler' blood

plush mason
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so is there a standard rank that would be in over all command of a single regiment or does it vary world to world?

gray umbra
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Think regiments are led by a colonel

celest dome
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Colonel for a Regiment
Castelan for multiples

plush mason
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and the castellans form the general staff or is that above the castellans?

celest dome
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Castellan is the highest of the General staff

plush mason
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ah

dusk patrol
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Also ranks aren’t super consistent with what they lead and sometimes regiments have unique terms

lime stratus
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I'm Curious. Has there been an jokes said in universe by like guardsmen or something to lighten the mood? If so what are some?

opaque coyote
storm jungle
plush mason
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lol

gray umbra
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Ork biddies

queen laurel
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I have seen worse

rose thorn
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whys is half of the warhammer hobby content so click baty

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baity

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' I RUINED my space marines

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'how eldar became the WORST faction to paint'

queen laurel
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And a lot of content creators use this to their advantage

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Mostly targeting the people that don't know any better

rose thorn
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fair

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theres so many channels that pray on new people its pretty sad

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for hobby and lore

queen laurel
rose thorn
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tabletop gameplay is ina d iffernet catagory

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since most popele who make clickbait content cant play lmao

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i feel like salamanders and dark angels are the most click baited chapters

queen laurel
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It's what a lot of people go in warhammer for

dusk patrol
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God the amount of shit lore TikTok’s I’ve seen

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This one dude in particular

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He’s so authoritative too about it

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Like he’s saying something that’s well researched and he ever looked into

rose thorn
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hey did chaos space mairnes get a new model when they got thier codex?

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oh yeah

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the chaos lrod with jump pack

rose thorn
gray umbra
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"You wont BELIEVE what this dark angels does"

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And then its just a dark angel doing dark angels things

dusk patrol
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It’s really dumb stuff too

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Like saying the one marine who gets killed by the cultist in SM2 is the redemptor dread you see later

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Like

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No

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He died, they say so, and the Redemptor and Titus don’t have any rapport

leaden pilot
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You don’t survive a rebar through the eye lmao

dusk patrol
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Also, becoming a dread takes awhile

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Not like a day

rose thorn
#

'did you space marines arent that evil? The salamanders are-'

dusk patrol
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He’s very dead

queen laurel
leaden pilot
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Also there’s a small memorial on the ship for this marine, which is a much cooler fact to me

dusk patrol
#

Omg guys Lamenters, Salamders, and Tau are so wholesome chungus

dusk patrol
arctic talon
gray umbra
#

The dread has his name on his chassis lol

arctic talon
#

Also if we want to be pedantic the night lords killteam

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Came out like

rose thorn
#

'who is the most evil space marine chapter? The black legion is a space marine chatper of-'

arctic talon
#

A month before iirc

rose thorn
#

legi ta rela video

rose thorn
arctic talon
queen laurel
rose thorn
#

oh i thought they were a reskin of a unit

arctic talon
#

Oh wait in 40k?

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No

rose thorn
#

liek the hands of teh archeon

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oh

arctic talon
#

In killteam yeah

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Yeah no they got hand of the archon’d

dusk patrol
leaden pilot
arctic talon
#

But you can proxy them easily at least

dusk patrol
#

He’s not the only wild case like that either

arctic talon
#

Since the big chainsword = heavy melee

rose thorn
#

plS GW JUST MKAE THE HANDS THE MUST FUCK ASS BODY GUARD UNIT EVR

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PLSSSSSSSSSS

arctic talon
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Skinthief

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Ect.

dusk patrol
#

But yes it’s safe to say that on average

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Rebar in the brain is bad

queen laurel
#

So the ork kill team the first one, Is Goffs

arctic talon
arctic talon
queen laurel
#

You know the orks that despise stealth

arctic talon
#

It’s goffs all the way down

rose thorn
arctic talon
#

Oh that

rose thorn
#

like uh

#

comand company i guess?

arctic talon
#

Yeah idfk why they chose goffs

rose thorn
#

or the locus (which is terible but still)

arctic talon
#

As the fucking like

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Poster child

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

For killteam

rose thorn
#

because black orks in old owlrd

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old world*

arctic talon
#

No

rose thorn
#

oh

queen laurel
#

So it makes sense for them to carry large weapons and stuff and having a heavy armor

arctic talon
#

That’s for 40k

queen laurel
#

The first one

arctic talon
#

Killteam has unconventional poster children

queen laurel
#

Why

rose thorn
#

i didnt se ehte killteam part sorry

arctic talon
#

Unlike 40k lol

queen laurel
#

Why Goffs

arctic talon
#

Stealthier ones

queen laurel
#

Like the blood axe is right there

dusk patrol
#

Goffs also have a really great scheme tbh

arctic talon
#

Some weird necron dynasty that had 0 lore

dusk patrol
#

Hard to blame them

arctic talon
#

Weird orang vespids

arctic talon
#

Goffs is best

queen laurel
#

Like the second one makes sense

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They are demolitionist and are very loud

#

The first one?

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Not so much

#

It's just like so weird to me

arctic talon
#

Black is a sneaky color I guess

dusk patrol
#

Blood Axes would be more sense

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But it’s how it is

#

Same reason they use Ultras for most marine releases

arctic talon
#

I think orks are the only big miss for KT’s like

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Chosen subfaction

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Marines are like Raptors/UM/Raven guard

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Necrons are a dynasty so stealthy everyone forgot they existed despite the sick scheme

#

Tau being vior’la is meh

dusk patrol
#

Seeing non Sautekh or Szarekhan is always a trip

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

The fact it’s both a non metallic scheme + non sautekh/szerakahn is fun

queen laurel
#

Like there is not a single drop of Goff in this

arctic talon
#

The masks

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Are black and white

dusk patrol
#

Tbf they are Ork Kommandos

#

Not being in clique with the rest of the clan is basically their MO

queen laurel
#

Just a bit weird

dusk patrol
#

Yeah I agreed

queen laurel
#

Like a clan notorious for hating stuff like sneaking around and tactics have a kill team that uses the group that loves tactics?

#

Weird ass decision but all right

arctic talon
#

I was honestly expecting a freeboota killteam tbh

queen laurel
#

Straight up every single ork kill team right now is straight up designed to go in front of the enemy and tear them open a new one

arctic talon
#

Tbh

#

Very orky lol

queen laurel
# arctic talon Very orky lol

It's very much is but hey i want to see the face of the person i'm playing with contort into an angry hippopotamus as a literally drown the entire board within a fire power to wipeout his entire team

plush mason
rose thorn
#

gonna kill someone

#

more click bate

gray umbra
#

The TRUTH

rose thorn
#

the TRUTH

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

WHY IS HE ACTING LIKE 'never evr do this'

queen laurel
#

Bahaha

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Ok

rose thorn
#

you paitn them 3 colors

queen laurel
#

That's just an insult

gray umbra
#

Does he highlight

rose thorn
#

NO

#

like

#

im not cmopalinging

queen laurel
# rose thorn

This looks like he used the fill in tool in real life

rose thorn
#

about the paint job or waht ever

#

i mcomplaining about him click baiting it

queen laurel
#

How the hell does the slap chop method of painting look more detailed than this

rose thorn
#

he is new its fine waht evere

#

he jsut wante dto be able eto legally play these units

gray umbra
#

Why is it a rule you cant field unpainted units

rose thorn
#

hes nice he is fine

gray umbra
#

Is there like an actual reason

rose thorn
gray umbra
#

I thought that was the point of the point system

#

But that makes sense

queen laurel
#

Yeah and i'm going to be honest looking at an unpainted model

#

Not fun

rose thorn
#

you go into the store, leave, build the models, then come back the next day to win a tourtement

#

thats why you paitn 3 colors

gray umbra
#

Theyre just pre heresy death guard i swear

rose thorn
#

you can play casually unpainted

#

but in any completetive sense

gray umbra
#

Ohhhh i get it

rose thorn
#

you have to have 3 colors

gray umbra
#

So like tau fish of fury

queen laurel
gray umbra
#

People dont just buy tau and win

lapis verge
#

Inb4 we just headcanon the unpainteds as Alpha Legion in disguise KEKW_ogryn

rose thorn
gray umbra
#

Yeah i just was curious

rose thorn
#

thats why comp teams either looks amazing (they paid someone to paint their models) or look like a rattle can's murder (they airbushed 3 layers)

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

back in the day how well your army was painted gave you bonus points

gray umbra
#

I usually dont paint minis because of the cost but im getting a intro set for my birthday so it seems like good fun

lapis verge
#

I should try painting someday

If the models don't cost an arm and a leg here KEKW_ogryn

gray umbra
#

Yeah its literally only the cost

gray umbra
#

And storage...

lapis verge
gray umbra
#

My 600 ft nyc apartment cant handle it

lapis verge
#

I dont even think GW has any stores here even

#

I have to buy shit online

rose thorn
#

damnnn

#

'ehy guys, today ill be playing warhammer in anartica!'

#

'just, gotta, wait for the models'

lapis verge
#

Last time I saw a regular Primaris Ultramarine box it was like, $90 ish?

rose thorn
#

dont be afraid to buy off ebay or websites that sell them in a different plastic

#

thats psychotic

queen laurel
#

Gw and their god damn prices

gray umbra
#

Phobos strike team is 85 on amazon

rose thorn
#

they are like insanity to buy right now

gray umbra
#

I was trying to look at the gw store and it seems like theyre super unavailable rn

rose thorn
#

gw included pieces of cardboard in their boxes so now they cost twice as much

lapis verge
#

Hol the fuk up

They sellin a Primaris Lieutenant for $25.50 wtf

lapis verge
rose thorn
#

oh ice

lapis verge
#

Looks promising, still hella pricey for 1 damn unit ah

rose thorn
#

waht army do you want to play

#

?

#

there is always always ways to save money on armies, mainly through second hand

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

the MODERN model is half the pirce and 3 times beteter looking btw

#

oh my bad

#

30 bucks cheaper

#

but still

lapis verge
#

Dear Lordy

rose thorn
lapis verge
#

Either Necrons or CSM really

rose thorn
#

ebay 'necrons lot'

rose thorn
queen laurel
# rose thorn

Bro the faction leader of the giant is also still cheaper

rose thorn
#

thats wonderful

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

also

#

you can use these guys in any destruction army

#

or you can use them in death, order, or chaos

#

depending on the one you have

#

once skaven tide starts dropping in price i might consider getting a skaven army, but ive never been too sold on them

queen laurel
#

The most original thing gw has

rose thorn
#

it is

queen laurel
#

That's why i like them they are their own unique thing

rose thorn
#

they are wonderufl

#

im just not sure if im a general fan i guess

#

i think they lack a social element i like in armies

#

like their interactions with other factions

queen laurel
#

Yeah like they are absolutely most of the time doing their thing

rose thorn
#

maybe i can make my custom clan just like

#

running an underground black market maybe?

#

idk

queen laurel
#

Like backstabbing and being so evil is literally ingrained in them

gray umbra
#

I can fix them

rose thorn
queen laurel
rose thorn
#

they are also extremely dependant on their own clans

queen laurel
#

Stabbing someone in the back

rose thorn
#

and internal cultures

#

moulders, skyre, pestalince, and what ever else tehre was

#

i do really relaly like their regiments of renown

queen laurel
#

They will have almost always have a numbers advantage against their enemy

#

So they can get away with relying on their own

#

And not having to interact with other people

rose thorn
#

they got a shooty one and a fighty one

#

the shooty one seems very, very nice

queen laurel
#

And straight up frankenstein

rose thorn
#

also the fighty one is so fucking fast

#

in nurgle they are great

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

ye i know that

#

i thought i hated this one

#

but now i reall yliek it

queen laurel
#

I commend their creativity

rose thorn
#

krittok's main downside was that you can make him not be a leader basically

#

make him loose his ability to provide buffs

#

but in return maek him hit hard

#

which doesnt seem great for a hrode army

#

but when he comands like 2 guys, its a very worthy exchange

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

so if he was your warlord

#

you just

#

loose out on commands

queen laurel
#

On a head on fight

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

Oh what about the uh

#

Storm rats

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

Yeah

queen laurel
#

They didn't really have a clan unless you are talking about Queek

#

He's from where was it again

#

clan mors

languid meadow
#

Eshins grandmaster is called Nightlord Sneek which is peak warhammer naming

queen laurel
#

And even have a special organ that allows them to enter to some kind of rage

#

And they have loyalty

#

Like the other clans look at this as like some kind of sorcery because how are they loyal

queen laurel
#

Because i will feed you to a tortoise

celest dome
#

Don't worry, I have my issues with Cathay too

rose thorn
#

cathay fucking sucks

#

so much

#

it hink teh entire factions existence is a porblem

celest dome
#

I hate it's magic theory, it just fucking suck and they could still have done their Chinese elements while actually having it be fitting whatthefuck_heresy

queen laurel
#

The great wall

#

It's literally just china but great wall

gray umbra
#

The good chi flows in and the bad chi flows out

rose thorn
#

and FILL it with stereotypes

gray umbra
rose thorn
#

lets be so indirectly racist they cant even TELL what its from

queen laurel
#

Jesus christ

rose thorn
#

and lets make yang brother obsessed with miltiary dictatorships and the yin sister be about fucking peace and waht ever

arctic talon
#

Cathay is fucking hilarious

#

Lol

rose thorn
#

is this the most racist thing the Total war team has ever made?

queen laurel
celest dome
#

Well, it' still GW who made it

arctic talon
queen laurel
#

I feel like it could have been executed better

arctic talon
#

I think it’s meh

#

Asthetic wise needs more gold if they want to really get like

#

Warhammer exaggerated with it

#

Why so much silver

rose thorn
#

becuase they arent eurpoean therefore arent allowed gold </3

arctic talon
#

Smh

#

They do get gold

#

Just not all over the fucking place like I’d expect lol

queen laurel
# arctic talon Smh

You would think with Gelt moving in there they would have more gold but nope

arctic talon
#

The aesthetic is like

rose thorn
#

what country is gelt anyway?

celest dome
#

Tillea iirc

arctic talon
#

A fucked up combo of Ming and Song dynasty China

celest dome
#

So Italy

rose thorn
#

AHSAHSAHAFH

#

thanks gelt

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

Where was Gelt during ww2?

arctic talon
#

Pretty interesting visually

#

Regarding Cathay’s aesthetics

rose thorn
#

and, why is italy best friends with the german faction...

arctic talon
#

In comparison to Chinese dynastic stuff

celest dome
rose thorn
#

god damn it gw

arctic talon
#

I don’t think Cathay is that racist

#

It’s not nearly as racist as Nippon lmao

celest dome
#

Or a faction starting by p

rose thorn
#

Nippon?

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

what

#

the

#

fuck

#

what is this

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

Glorious zhong guo wins again

queen laurel
#

Where the assassin's rats and learned how to do assassin things

rose thorn
#

and wh yare they all white

queen laurel
#

Yes the place where Clan Eschin learned how to be ninjas

#

Is japan

#

Bravo gw

arctic talon
#

What

#

the legendary sword of toyota

#

or whatever

celest dome
#

When I learnt that Cathay had 12 province a long time ago I had hoped that they would each be themed on a different animal of the Chinese Zodiac, with 4 of them being the colour animals at the same time, and the Rat province being owned by the Skaven

arctic talon
#

Sanyo Kawasaki and his legendary sword of Toyota

#

thanks GW

#

I'm glad you've gotten better

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

Cathay is honestly not that offensive imo

celest dome
rose thorn
#

I

arctic talon
#

its kind of like

rose thorn
arctic talon
#

a charming level of racism lol

queen laurel
#

Thank goodness gw improve

rose thorn
#

am

#

goinna murder osmeone

arctic talon
#

sort of like Mulan

#

thats how I feel at least

gray umbra
arctic talon
#

It is

#

lol

rose thorn
#

this is so fucking stipid

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

im so angry

arctic talon
#

idk

#

I don't think cathay is nearly as bad as you say it is

#

personally lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

Uh

rose thorn
#

its still racist is the pronlem

arctic talon
#

meh

#

A lot of WHFB stuff is honestly kind of racist

rose thorn
#

yeah

arctic talon
#

the only one that isn't is like The Empire

gray umbra
#

Theyre british what do you expect

arctic talon
#

Bretonia is def kind of racist

rose thorn
#

because they are european

arctic talon
#

Okay but British people in WHFB

#

are literally a bunch of chaos worshiping savages

#

generally

#

💀

queen laurel
gray umbra
#

Just like in rl

arctic talon
#

so they're also being racist towards themselves

#

which is weird but okay

rose thorn
#

literally putting the orcs and beastmen in countreis like the middle east and new world makes me so pissed

#

its so bad

slow flower
#

Beastmen are everywhere not in countries

celest dome
#

Araby still is human

gray umbra
#

Mayanaztec lizars people

queen laurel
#

What does that f****** mean

arctic talon
#

but whatever

arctic talon
#

pretty much all western media of Medival/dynastic China or fantasy China does this

slow flower
#

Pretty much all chinese mythology also does this

arctic talon
#

not really on the honor + dragon stuff

#

yin and yang yeah

#

they should have made Yin and Yang, 風水

slow flower
#

Dragon's are certainly a big theme

arctic talon
#

to make it even more complex and funny

arctic talon
#

or shit like Mulan lol

#

idk

rose thorn
#

im just glad old world can live in its own bubble so aos doenst have to associate wiht it

arctic talon
#

Its charming

#

in like its own weird way to me

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

to see a weird and fucked up version if your own culture

queen laurel
#

I am going to be laughing

gray umbra
#

Yooo

arctic talon
#

smh

queen laurel
#

Yep it better be

arctic talon
#

oh also Kung Fu Panda

#

lmao

#

but that one is pretty respectful overall

#

I love Kung Fu Panda

queen laurel
#

It was just that good in respectful to people that they genuinely wondered why they can't make something like that

arctic talon
#

Its really well done lol

#

Its a very classic Kung Fu movie

#

but for kids + with animals

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

I haven't watched that one

#

so I wouldn't know

#

I've only watched the first 2

queen laurel
#

Mid

arctic talon
#

I also like the fact kung fu masters use weapons

celest dome
#

I tried the 4th but dropped it in less than 15 min

queen laurel
#

Who knew tigress uses the tiger style

arctic talon
#

no Rope darts though smh

#

I do like the choice of swords

#

and stuff lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

lol

rose thorn
# arctic talon to see a weird and fucked up version if your own culture

I dont really have as much say as other parts of my extended family, but im realted to Native Americans and seeing media for decades dig up and make the same stereotypes is just obseenly aggrivating. I dont expect gw to know or really care about other countries or culture but i think making parts of the US that mostly belong to the reservations chaos corrupted lands nips be rpetty bad

#

of course i dont speak for everyone, i like beastmen and i think they have a place

slow flower
#

Again, beastmen are literally everywhere in WHf

slow flower
#

They're not even specifically a new world faction

rose thorn
#

youknow what i mean

slow flower
#

No, I don't.

celest dome
#

Beastmen aren't even that common in the Lustria

#

There are Native Human factions, but they're repressed by the Dark Elfs

queen laurel
#

Yeah gw writing was not the best at certain times

#

Thank goodness they are bettering themselves though

rose thorn
#

yeah

arctic talon
#

水滸傳 is one of the funniest Chinese novels for one reason, in the list of eighteen tradtional weapons for martial arts

#

it lists gun

#

as in just the word gun

queen laurel
celest dome
#

Well, is it wrong

rose thorn
#

aos does something similar every once in a while, which inst as bad as aos but still isnt great

arctic talon
#

No its not wrong at all lol

#

but its the only one to list actual firearms on the list of 18 traditional weapons for martial arts

#

lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

like, spear, axe, bow and arrows, swords, ect. and then in the 10th spot its just gun

#

not the characters for the staff refered to as "gun" romanized chinese

#

but like

#

actual gun

#

Lol

#

10/10 would read again

celest dome
#

Another about Cathay is that the way it's going forward, it seem like they'll all be Chinese Dragon transforming children
Except the Monkey Prince

arctic talon
#

downside of 水滸傳 is the book is kind of misogynistic

#

but like what a surprise, ancient china is misogynistic?

#

no way

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

i cant make any input on chinese history, my world history teacher was obseenly racist

queen laurel
#

He got that strap on the ready

rose thorn
#

to the point he had rants about how non white cultures just got lucky

#

thanks idaho isaac_thumbsup

queen laurel
#

Let him stay

rose thorn
#

let him stay

queen laurel
#

Shit

rose thorn
#

idk now

#

but he was there when i was in taht shcool

queen laurel
#

Just letting a teacher like that exist isn't a good look

rose thorn
#

he also made us call him sir and gave a kid an A because she quoted the bible in her history papre

#

'paper' as in like 4 paragaphs

arctic talon
#

guh

rose thorn
#

i hated her guts lmao

arctic talon
#

thats prolly the most accurate translation to english

#

imo

#

having read it in both Chinese and English now

#

lol

rose thorn
queen laurel
rose thorn
#

sahfahfhahah

#

guh i want this model

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

mhm

#

i need ot buy ruination chamber tho tbh

#

i just saw a warhammer 40k apocalypse box on ebay

#

damn those were good deals

rose thorn
#

a 5th of all warhammer accounts are subscirbed to warhammer plus

#

gw's biggest worry atm is people using their IP to damage their business.

#

interesting

#

they dont even mention third party stuff

opaque coyote
#

Jade weapons in general look sick

raven stone
rose thorn
opaque coyote
gray umbra
#

Gw is weirdly protective of their ip

#

And i get it

raven stone
rose thorn
#

warhammer is a community ran game, you need to control what kind of communiteis form aroudn your game

dusk patrol
#

A lot for that overly protective nature has led us to this current time where we’re getting some great stuff

#

And potentially more

rose thorn
dusk patrol
#

And what’s more, I can expect it’s going to stay true to the general dark vibe of 40k

#

It might not

#

Maybe Amazon if the deal goes through will fumble it

rose thorn
#

id rather have good books and block people on twitter

dusk patrol
#

But it gives me more hope than not

rose thorn
#

than have scifi blood bowl be the main setting

dusk patrol
gray umbra
#

I dont think amazon would fuck up 40k if we do get a show eventually

dusk patrol
#

Beyond hiring the dude involved

#

The stuff like SODAZ was community harassment

#

Not GW

rose thorn
dusk patrol
#

And Astartes they basically bought his property

rose thorn
#

oh besides when their content was being reposted on youtube

dusk patrol
#

Yeah obviously

rose thorn
#

yea

dusk patrol
#

And even that it’s easy to find tech