40k-lore-chat

[queen laurel]

Your spirit can feel what it's like when an ogre is satisfied and is offering his food that is eating for Gorkamorka

[outer wave]

I see I see

[rose thorn]

FINALLYYYY

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/yrpl1os9/sunday-preview-unleash-the-ruination-chamber/

[dusk patrol]

It’s always so wild when you see a piece and are like “how did this not get gold?”

And then you see gold

People are wild

[outer wave]

Jesus that diorama is so cool

What the fuck

[celest dome]

Public votes ?

[dusk patrol]

No

Group of judges

[celest dome]

huh, then that's even more strange

[rose thorn]

Regiment of renown, reclusiants brotherhood

Army of renown

Hammers of the fire forge?

[green loom]

Is that Bayard's?

[rose thorn]

https://youtu.be/zZiPfec0W_M?si=PqZLi1IJoEvwfR3e

The horizon seekers? What could that be

[dusk patrol]

I think so yeah

Parts of it

[green loom]

Pretty crazy conversion ngl

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s wild

[rose thorn]

Holy shit they keep rereleasing ciaphas Cain books over and over again

It’s fucking insane

[raven stone]

TBF his stories are more on the sane side of things.

And not Marine porn

So, y’know…they will be popular

[arctic talon]

They sell well everytime

[rose thorn]

It’s insane; this is the Skyrim of Warhammer

[arctic talon]

lol

tbf

You can always get skyrim

you can't always get a physical copy of warhammer novels unfortunately lol

[dusk patrol]

They’re classics and they’re easy to jump in

Some light humor

They’re bad for binging but they’re fun to read occasionally

[storm jungle]

They are what id describe as Well Done Trash

even regular fans noted how every book is the same thing

its why its bad to read them in order

it gets VERY noticable

[celest dome]

They are also somewhat easy to read without too much 40k lore

[storm jungle]

Yeah but they also got trash like

"omg commissars can fuck sororitas????"

like oh my god SHUT UP

[rose thorn]

Fromw aht ive read of and about the cain books

its like, the heart of

[celest dome]

I see them on the same level as the Gotrek novels

[rose thorn]

'did you know, guardsmen can breed?'

'in the warhammer 40 thousand setting'

[storm jungle]

YES

THATS IT

[arctic talon]

LOL, I hate how this is true about the AoS gotrek books

[storm jungle]

it gets so much "well i heard it from the Cain books"

[arctic talon]

they both are very formulaic

and have the same formula

lol

[storm jungle]

Okay but

Gotrek and Felix is still fun

Cain is

[arctic talon]

I'm talking

[storm jungle]

Jurgen uses melta

[arctic talon]

about the Gotrek books

[storm jungle]

Please clap

[arctic talon]

not the Gotrek and Felix books

[storm jungle]

same thing

it as Gotrek in it

[arctic talon]

Nah

Gotrek is like

[storm jungle]

Yah

[arctic talon]

no

[storm jungle]

now shut up before i

[rose thorn]

AOS gotrek books are pretty uh

[arctic talon]

I need felix

[rose thorn]

not good

[arctic talon]

smh

[storm jungle]

shove a grenade

[arctic talon]

They're not bad

[storm jungle]

up yo-

[arctic talon]

they aren't good either

[rose thorn]

its like the exact smae problem

[arctic talon]

formulaic

they're all the same

Gotrek is a boomer

[rose thorn]

yeah and all he does is complain

complain

[arctic talon]

I'm only half joking

[rose thorn]

complain

[arctic talon]

Hey

sometimes

he kills stuff

[rose thorn]

his morals and motives flip flop constantly

[celest dome]

I'd love to see some Felix book without Gotrek, him just having to juggle surviving and maybe having to see some of his old flames

[dusk patrol]

Gotrek goes

[arctic talon]

There is only one guiding motive

[dusk patrol]

Felix fucks some babe

[arctic talon]

across the gotrek AoS books

[dusk patrol]

Gotrek cock blocks him

[arctic talon]

he wants to find felix

LOL

[dusk patrol]

They kill a big bad

[rose thorn]

WHICH HE ABANDONDS CONSTANTLY

[arctic talon]

mhm

[dusk patrol]

Rinse and repeat

[arctic talon]

idk

[dusk patrol]

Then they get depressing

[arctic talon]

Gotrek and Felix worked because Gotrek had Felix to bounce off of as did Felix

like

idk, there isn't a Felix for AoS gotrek

[rose thorn]

they could mak felix a stormcast, that would be the only way to make him barrable lmao

[dusk patrol]

It doesn’t help it’s not William King anymore either

[arctic talon]

mhm

[rose thorn]

they treid so

so

hard

but noen of it worked

[dusk patrol]

Gotrek thinks he is but isn’t sure how to find him

Or if he’ll remember him

[arctic talon]

Clearly

what Gorek needs

is some Bugmans beer

[dusk patrol]

It’s not Bugman’s I’ll tell you that

[rose thorn]

yeah but he will bitch about captialism dwarves

bugman is in aos

he had a mini

[hallow saddle]

Fuggmann's

[dusk patrol]

Three certainties

Death, Taxes, and Bugmans

[rose thorn]

he had a speciaL Warcry mission too

[dusk patrol]

Imo Felix was the main character of that series largely

Gotrek was the catalyst for it and a primary character but Felix was always the main perspective largely and narratively kept it tied down

[rose thorn]

mhm

[celest dome]

The books are set as his journal iirc

[dusk patrol]

It was supposed to be him cataloguing Gotreks legend

It kinda fell off that eventually

[rose thorn]

i hope kruleboyz get some cavalry next year

i love stormcasts, why is she jsut fisting the air

[paper haven]

I like the Ciaphis Cain novels

[rocky gale]

Wait a minute how come you're allowed to say fisting

Huh

It's not automodded anymore

[shadow plover]

My friend made this, so proud

Been following the progress on that piece for more than a year now

700-800 hours of work

[arctic talon]

Hand + arm should be higher but the cape sculpt doesn’t allow it

If it was a pointing finger it would work better

Imo

[green loom]

Is this a new sculpt?

[rose thorn]

yea

[arctic talon]

Yes

[green loom]

New lord celestant or wut

[shell mason]

Auric damn

I only died once

[crystal forum]

so is mark 4 armour plastic kit just not the same size as mark 6 and mark 3

they really need to stop this size creep shit if it makes slightly old models no longer compatible with upgrade kits

[languid meadow]

yeah wait wtf

it's comical how large the MK6 is compared to the MK4

[crystal forum]

i think the worst part is GW doesn't say anything about it

unlike primaris where you know what is compatible

so you can buy an upgrade kit that's just not compatible

[arctic talon]

It’s old

They came out around 6e edition start

Before GW did new scale firstborn

[crystal forum]

it's annoying

[arctic talon]

[crystal forum]

all sorts of mix and match shit in HH

[languid meadow]

damn I forgot how swag the upscaled Mk3 is

[shell mason]

know what maybe it was just me

[arctic talon]

💀

[crystal forum]

just clip off the pikes

those things look like ass

[languid meadow]

yeah kind of

Honestly I would just buy these just to paint and show off

(If they weren't $100)

[crystal forum]

get the battleforce

it's good

also they come with bayonets

i hope next armour they do is mark 5

[arctic talon]

It’ll prolly be MK2

[crystal forum]

but that's prob coming in like 2 years

[arctic talon]

MK5 is annoying for like

Plastic

[crystal forum]

they'll prob do assault mark 3 in plastic before that

[arctic talon]

Bcs of the bonding studs

[arctic talon]

Prolly

There’s also no despoiler kit yet

LOL

[crystal forum]

and all the little shitty resin models which are out of stock

breachers would be cool in plastic

[crystal forum]

why though? they never did mark 2

[arctic talon]

There was a resin MK2 kit

The mold broke

[crystal forum]

i dont think thats true

[arctic talon]

It

Literally is

There is resin mk2

[crystal forum]

show it

[crystal forum]

huh

[arctic talon]

Why don't you trust me on this smh

I'm too much of a nerd

to forget old ass kits

[crystal forum]

idk an employee told me they never got made

[languid meadow]

the resin/metal master

[arctic talon]

They're fucking stupid

[crystal forum]

prob

[arctic talon]

okay I'm being harsh

but they did never get made in plastic

and were a forgeworld product

[naive galleon]

"blood for the emperor, Skulls for the golden throne"
is the zealot a heretic

[crystal forum]

speaking of which im only now realizing the resin upgrade kits dont seem to work on plastic models

[arctic talon]

they're corrupted by khorne

[arctic talon]

They do, you just need to use super glue

and at least its not a resin metal hybrid kit

[crystal forum]

the hands arent in the right place

[arctic talon]

oh

well

wait

which resin kit are you using

[languid meadow]

this sounds horrific

[crystal forum]

the cup position is what's needed. plastic has hands as part of the gun

kinda sucks tbh

[arctic talon]

🔪

[crystal forum]

i like the hand being standard

[arctic talon]

Time to do some surgery

[crystal forum]

it'll look like shit but i'm equipping my iron hands with volkite culverins

mega volkite blaster

[arctic talon]

wait

if its the new resin kit

it shouldn't be a problem

[crystal forum]

i dont think its new

i do regret getting the grav guns since idk where to put them

no units use them

[crystal forum]

i've been told to never buy a fellblade because plastic resin

[arctic talon]

Plastic resin kit is nasty

But resin metal is worse

[crystal forum]

name one

[naive galleon]

lmao
which voice is that

[crystal forum]

i should print a thunderhawk

you can make way more money printing the big GW models since the prices go exponentially high for the amount of resin they use

like i can print a titan for 100$ at most

hell i could print it entirely out of filament for like 60$

[arctic talon]

Not 40k

Thank god lol

[arctic talon]

Fanatic I think

[celest dome]

We prefer the word 'blessed'

[crystal forum]

they're a little confused but they got the spirit

as long as they fight with us

and hey that priest lady is ok with it

can i say it's actually pretty nice that they bothered putting all the bolt pistol variants

also the tigris pattern has a bayonet lug

[dusk patrol]

Love me some heresy era plasma

[crystal forum]

they do look very smooth and cool

is this also the first time they've added a hand flamer in plastic?

i wonder if they're planning on making assault squads be built with upgrade kits instead of their own boxes in the future

would make it a lot easier to keep track of the models at least

[arctic talon]

No

for heresy era hand flamer yes

but not for hand flamer specifically

SoB and marines both have hand flamers

[crystal forum]

that's what i meant

obv assault intercessors have hand flamers

you NERD

[shell mason]

yea

[rose thorn]

hey hh nerds

hwo would you do loyalist night lords?

[arctic talon]

They like the emperor or they hate

Or they’re mad Konrad nuked nostromo

[shell barn]

Y’know. Considering we have Eldar (Elves), Ogryn (Ogres), Beastmen, and Ratling (Dwarves). And how everything from old world is in 40k in some shape or form. I’m surprised we don’t have Ratmen/Skaven equivalent

[shell mason]

Beastman and ratlings are not dwarves

ratlings are basically hobbits

[shell barn]

I think I made a typo but Beastmen are also the same in 40k

[dusk patrol]

https://old.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1fngf5n/excerpt_the_value_of_fear_a_loyalist_night_lord/

Also Sevatar is sorta a loyalist Night Lord.

Generally as Elite said the loyalists weren't terribly different from the traitors they just hated Curze.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fel_Zharost

Also this guy

[languid meadow]

saying ratlings are dwarves when votann exists

[dusk patrol]

Who likely was one of the first GK Grand Masters

Might even be confirmed he's Khyron.

[languid meadow]

Loyalists from traitor legions always have some of the best lore

[dusk patrol]

Its allows for some very interesting plot devices.

[languid meadow]

I think Fel is one of the coolest on the fact he's a librarian from the night lords, and that is so cool to me

[dusk patrol]

His short story is cool

[shell mason]

mood

[shell mason]

@shell barn This ^

[arctic talon]

Beastmen are not inherently chaos aligned in 40k

they just get treated like shit and horribly oppressed to the point where joining Chaos is genuinely an improvement or the only way out

Or they just get exterminated on some planets

[arctic talon]

Also regarding this The Skaven got split between The Imperium of Man, Orks and Chaos

for 40k

[fickle wyvern]

i compare them to guardsmen.

[arctic talon]

meh

Guard are like one of the less skaven parts beyond the

Huge number of them

but the Imperium has a council of 13

there's a ton of them

[fickle wyvern]

lotsa guns?

[arctic talon]

Skaven don't have a lot of guns

lol

Not anymore then the empire at least

[fickle wyvern]

i mainly just use ratling gunners dunno what das about

[arctic talon]

Well

those explode

[fickle wyvern]

meh

mild casualties

[arctic talon]

They don't do that in total war

all of total wars skaven stuff is lame

because it doesn't just fail

1/3rd of the time

[fickle wyvern]

exactly

[arctic talon]

and violently explode 1/6th of the time

yeah but it doesn't do that

in Total war

pretty much no video game nails how absurdly unstable most skaven tech is

because A. thats not fun for most gamers

[fickle wyvern]

[arctic talon]

and B. because its a balancing nightmare

[fickle wyvern]

skaven stuff is just too crazy.

[arctic talon]

Skryre in Total war

has no downsides

lol

[fickle wyvern]

on table top the giant skaven model that got released a few months back looks dope

[arctic talon]

Oh the uh

verminlord

[fickle wyvern]

yeah that

saw a guy painting one at my gamestore a few days ago

amazing painter

[arctic talon]

yeah he's sick

[fickle wyvern]

all the newer skaven stuff looks pretty good

[arctic talon]

ngl

I don't love the new uh

Named warlord

[fickle wyvern]

nvm one of them looks pretty bad

the one with the screwed up cloak

[rose thorn]

Something’s wrong here

[rose thorn]

The boomer skaven?

[arctic talon]

yeah with the beer belly

[rose thorn]

He’s like, the oldest skaven that isn’t a demon

[arctic talon]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[rose thorn]

So he gotta be a boomer

He drinks 6 packs with his demon kitchen knife

[outer wave]

He's the Daemon equivalent of a middle aged dad that's tired of his job and his family and needs a break

Sits on his favorite sofa, takes out a keg, and relaxes to whatever is on TV

[crystal forum]

was mark 4 armour the most used mark

[arctic talon]

By traitors at the onset of the heresy yes

But it fell off

Because hard to maintain

[crystal forum]

so why dont traitor marines wear mark 4

[arctic talon]

because its hard as shit to maintain

Lol

by late heresy

marines are wearing whatever the fuck they can get

[radiant lance]

Imperium
Mantaining stuff

[crystal forum]

so which mark was the easiest to maintain

also still so wild that this is the span of like a decade

but i guess WW2 was shorter than that

[torpid narwhal]

this is peak warhammer 🫡

[opaque coyote]

by StellarLupus

I can see how Corax is related to him now lmao

[outer wave]

He looks so devious

[sour hornet]

Needs Immortal Imperium to hit a lil' bit harder

[warm comet]

I can’t stop thinking about how horrible nurglites would be to fight

Are there any stories where soldiers just retreat because of how disgusting these things are?

Or if they talk about how they’d prefer to just artillery bomb them from far away?

[lapis verge]

Now that I think abt it....

Surely there would be an instance where even the Comissars would believe just pumping Guardsmen into the Nugle meatgrinder is actually counter-productive?

Considering the corpses can get "re-animated" or smth

At least I remember reading smwhere Nurglite "reanimation" of corpses is possible

[queen laurel]

if they get close enough the diseases they carry around will kill a normal guard

this is also the reason why are rejects have thorough cleaning process in darktide

Because even just the pox walkers are enough to get us very contaminated

[warm comet]

I’m guessing cleansing involves showering as 3 priests chant at you

3-in-1 soap for body, hair and nurgle infection

[opaque coyote]

Being near them literally make you start dying

Like you'd just suddenly get 50 diseases at once

And if you're LUCKY you'd die

[warm comet]

Yeah, I literally don’t get how the guard fight these things

Also I guess our rejects are made of some crazy stuff

[opaque coyote]

People are cheap in the Imperium

The only resource it has in abundance

[warm comet]

Sure, but just tactically it would never be worth it to get into close combat if your troops all immediately die

[opaque coyote]

Yeah usually the guard just overpower it with fire

[sacred ginkgo]

If you point enough lasguns in a direction for long enough the problem goes away

[opaque coyote]

/artillery

Use plenty of bombs

Plenty of Lasfire

[queen laurel]

Firepower can win just about any battle they say

[opaque coyote]

Keep in mind, Lasguns are powerful compared to modern standards

It's just that in 40k, it's not that effective

[warm comet]

Is there any way you can survive close contact with nurglites without just dying?
Or do our rejects manage just for the sake of gameplay

[opaque coyote]

But it's good enough to kill your average poxwalker/zombie/etc.

[queen laurel]

Yeah it can send the limbs of a human flying in a single shot and punch through concrete

[opaque coyote]

Faith, Psyker shielding, or just plain luck

[warm comet]

Isn’t it that they hit with about the force of a .50 cal bullet?

[sacred ginkgo]

You don’t instantly die by being near most stuff we fight, it’s just Not Fun™️

[opaque coyote]

If one is shot at your arm, it will be sliced clean off

[warm comet]

Yeah true. I wonder if lorewise having a zealot would actually be required for any of these missions

[opaque coyote]

The Zealot does have a "relic" that seems to be powered by faith

So they are useful

[warm comet]

Just to stop you rotting to death

[opaque coyote]

Also the Psyker would be vital as well

[warm comet]

Do ogryns resist infection as well as they resist everything else?

[queen laurel]

not really

[warm comet]

Rip Ogry :(

[queen laurel]

they are physically tough but as you can see with Plague ogryns

They turn into literal abominations perfect for growing diseases

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah also even the regular Ogyrns we fight are fucked up

[warm comet]

A plague ogryn is surely one of the toughest things made of flesh to exist

[opaque coyote]

like even more ugly

Basically, they look like they do high fives with their face constantly

with a knife

[queen laurel]

yeah they are strong and literally we should be infected with the amount of diseases they carry

but again it is just a game so you know not gonna happen

[opaque coyote]

I just assume that the Psyker or Zealot protects you from dying immediately

Since most of the teams that are sent in cutscenes usually have one of each

So

Yeah

[scenic bolt]

it's also mentioned in asides that we get inquisition level sanitation post mission, but like in game corruption's about the closest you get mechanically to any nurgle/chaos taint

[warm comet]

Darktide 7 has two psykers from what I can remember

Which lorewise i am guessing is insanely strong

[queen laurel]

The Beast of Nurgle is no less deadly than it is ugly, for its touch causes paralysis and its slimy secretions rot everything they cover. The very proximity of a Beast is sufficient to kill small animals and plants, and even larger creatures may age and decay perceptibly in its presence.

trust me our characters would have been reduced to a boiling pile of pus ridden flesh the moment we go near the the beast

and plague ogryns should have infected us with a very dangerous disease

[warm comet]

Yeah like even looking at art of nurglites makes me feel ill, I feel like fighting them would be the worst thing you could face in 40k surely?

I feel like all other enemies just kill you, or at least just leave you to bleed out

But watching myself rot as those things get closer to me? ew

[queen laurel]

dark eldar mate

[warm comet]

I kinda know what they do to captives, but in battle aren’t they just killing you?

[queen laurel]

oh no

their weapons are designed to bring agony to someone

[warm comet]

Oh

I could at least just lasgun myself in the face if I got shot though right?

[queen laurel]

that's if you can react fast enough to their assault

[warm comet]

Idk much about them

Are they bad at anything?

[warm comet]

Like combat weaknesses

[queen laurel]

every faction has one

And it's really a broad term because no 2 army is the same

[warm comet]

Yeah fair, but I’d assume they’re just generally bad at melee?

[queen laurel]

no

they are Eldar

[warm comet]

My knowledge of dark elder extends to how they spread your body out in pieces to torture you

[queen laurel]

they're very very agile and very ******* quick

[crisp heath]

Tabletop wise, Deldar are very, very squishy but very very fast. They're basically eldar cranked to 11.

In lore, eldar in general are physically stronger than a human

[shadow plover]

Deldar will kill almost anything they get into melee with, they just die if they don't kill enough in the first batch of hits

their shooting isn't the best but they can stack up on Dark Lances which are very potent

[opaque coyote]

Basically they usually use hit and run tactics to capture slaves

Usually they're unaware of what's gonna happen to them

Hell a good chunk of the Imperium literally cannot tell the difference between Craftworld and Deldar

[karmic burrow]

Hey, the lore very interests me but I know its MASSIVE, where shall I begin? Appreciate a link or something

[warm comet]

Aren’t they like elves?

I never like the type of elf in fantasy where it’s like ‘they’re just better humans’

[opaque coyote]

Lexicanium is the best source for searching shit up that you're curious about.

Don't use fandom.

Besides that, you can also read some books. The Cain book series, Gaunt's Ghost, and Eisenhorn are good series to start with.

[queen laurel]

yeah and as much as possible

Try to confirm the lore you are reading is still very much up to date and actually true

misinformation is like way too common in this ******* community

[karmic burrow]

Ill definetly check the books out, too much time using trains, so now ill have a good book there 😛

thanks

[opaque coyote]

Yeah they basically are that unfortunately.

Basically to humans, they're too perfect, too agile, etc.

However they can still get y'knoe

Shot in the face and die

Problem is getting the bullet in the first place.

Deldar's main weaknesses is that they're kinda low numbers

And they're mainly there to grab slaves and go

So you can drive them away by having actual resistance there

But they're stubborn motherfuckers

[warm comet]

Time to exterminate some elves

[civic scroll]

them knoife ears I tells ya

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah also each of their weapons literally are made to cause pain

Like

Splinter Rifles, one of the most common Deldar weapons

Inject a neurotoxin that paralyzes you and makes you die a slow

Horrible

Painful death

They do have weapons that actually do destroy stuff

They literally shoot Dark Matter

The Deldar are essentially Super Villains

The most fucked up part is that all the evil is learned

There are some flashbacks that have their child self crying in confusion on why they're hurting people

So all of it is learned, encouraged, and perpetuated

[arctic talon]

Mk5

[arctic talon]

The galaxy would be a better place objectively if Comorragh was nuked off the map lol

except you're going to need a lot of nukes

and find comorragh

and then get through all the subrealms

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it was essentially just the Marines hammering in shit they could find to try and make it more protective

Since their PA was meant against random Xenos and not

Other SMs

[arctic talon]

Tbf Eldar have the thing of literally being genetically modified for War by the Old Ones(probably)

They also have the disadvantage/advantage of a strong warp connection

lol

simultaniously a good and bad thing

[queen laurel]

Is Comorragh larger than a AOS Realm?

[arctic talon]

Its

big

thats all we know lol

[queen laurel]

make sense

[opaque coyote]

And unlike Humanity who generally don't know what they're doing and usually treat Psykers with scorn

The Craftworld Psykers actually are respected

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[opaque coyote]

And actually know it

Although tbf they had millions of years to make the process easy

[queen laurel]

they are too hateful but

i can also see where they are coming from because well

They have the tiny chance of opening up and turning into a flash portal

[opaque coyote]

Untrained Psyker is basically a portal for Daemons

[queen laurel]

or a Bomb

[opaque coyote]

And most of the planets that survived Old Night are those that massacred Psykers enmass

Fun times

[opaque coyote]

Commarragh literally runs off of Lovecraft logic

Basically

[arctic talon]

lol

[opaque coyote]

"Aaah too big and confusing!!!"

head explodes

[arctic talon]

also Eldar in 40k do actually just have kids way slower biologically/are pregnant longer

its not like some other fantasy settings where its cultural

Eldar reproduction is slow as shit lol

Dark Eldar cheat via vatgrowing

[queen laurel]

You really wonder why the old ones did that

[opaque coyote]

Literally pandas if they were sentient lmao

[arctic talon]

Nah

their reproduction is inefficent as hell lol

[opaque coyote]

Ork moment

[arctic talon]

Pandas are just dumb

lol

You need to deposit genetic material multiple times

and it takes like

a long time for gestation and stuff

[queen laurel]

i will literally go up to an old one and ask him why they did that

[arctic talon]

either way seems like a miserable time

lol

[arctic talon]

Frogs fogor

[queen laurel]

OK you made this psychic race so what's there you know main weakness

[arctic talon]

Also its not entierly clear if The Eldar were modified for war biologically

[opaque coyote]

So "making a baby" takes like 4 hours for the Eldar

That sounds extremely fucking tiring

[queen laurel]

we made their reproduction time miserable as hell

[arctic talon]

or if it just ended up being they got drafted

[arctic talon]

No

its over the course of like

multiple weeks lol

[opaque coyote]

Holy shit

[arctic talon]

it sucks

[opaque coyote]

Eldar Males be like

[arctic talon]

Its not non stop 💀

[warm comet]

Do dark elder themselves hate being tortured or are they freaky like that?

[arctic talon]

They're fine with being tortured

generally

[queen laurel]

yes they are fine with being tortured

[arctic talon]

within a certian context

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-hungry-and-thirsty-gif-16689267

[queen laurel]

but humiliating them like stopping their plans

[arctic talon]

culturally they get taught it from birth

anyways

[queen laurel]

is a good way of annoying them

[arctic talon]

Or it gets implanted into them via vatgrowing

either way it sucks lol

[warm comet]

Are they just very emotionally numb?

[arctic talon]

no

They just have incredibly skewed morals + emotions

[queen laurel]

do natural Born Darkeldar get special attention or something i forgot

[arctic talon]

They get special attetion from their parents(more abuse)

[queen laurel]

Wicked

[arctic talon]

there's a true born sybarite who when he hears his parents are visiting

is terrified

he gets tortured for several hours straight

now granted he is also a piece of shit

but you start to see where it comes from lol

[queen laurel]

but man

I literally did not get old ones OK so your psychic race that you want to believe in you and you know is very powerful you ****** them over by having the reproductive cycle be absolutely shit

and your warmongering green race

doesn't have an off switch

[arctic talon]

tbf

[lapis verge]

Tbf the natural state of being Dark Eldar is being an asshole

Some do it better than others thoe

[arctic talon]

not the natural state(technically)

you have to each it to the kids

💀

but hey

enough of that and they'll turn out just as terrible if not worse

then their parents

[queen laurel]

yeah and there are Darkeldar that just fuck off

Somewhere else

[dusk patrol]

It’s possible them regressing was the dead man’s switch

Or they never got to press it because they died

[lapis verge]

Inb4 an absentee Dark Eldar father is the best treatment a Drukhari kid will ever receive

[arctic talon]

now you just have your mother to worry about

[dusk patrol]

It’s not like any are gonna be good parents let’s be real

[arctic talon]

^

[dusk patrol]

Drukhari largely can’t be decent at all

Even if they wanted to

[arctic talon]

Even corsairs who are ex Drukhari are uh

unhinged lol

[lapis verge]

Naturally

Their entire point is not being decent after all

[arctic talon]

Its ingrained into them

by the time they're "adults"

[queen laurel]

like people who main pyro in tf2 ?

[lapis verge]

If they become somewhat decent that just means they vanilla Eldar

[arctic talon]

That means they die horribly unless they become a corsair lol

[dusk patrol]

The best they can do is spoil their kid with lots of torture and nepotism

[arctic talon]

being a "decent" Drukhari

is a fast path to the grave

[queen laurel]

if they want to separate from being a dark eldar

first thing is finding a way to secure their soul

[arctic talon]

either way blow up Comorragh

[shadow plover]

they probably have an everlasting ork problem now so that's close enough

[queen laurel]

if i had a nickel for every time a non human faction has their own inner pocket home to live in I would have two nickels which isn't a lot but it happened twice so it's funny

[arctic talon]

there's a lot of art of Tau being brutalized by Dark Eldar

lol

like I can think of 4 pieces

off the top of my head

[shadow plover]

Add T'au to that list

[queen laurel]

yeah i forgot

[opaque coyote]

The worst part is that it isn't

They teach it

[queen laurel]

they also have

[opaque coyote]

Basically it's an endless cycle of

[queen laurel]

their own fancy home dimension pocket thing

[opaque coyote]

"I'm gonna torture and abuse my kid so they can torture and abuse their kids"

[arctic talon]

Startide nexus is more like a wormhole

smh

[opaque coyote]

Deldar don't just have generational trauma

Their ENTIRE CULTURE

IS GENERATIONSL TRAUMA

Also to pointlessly yap some more

Betrayal is also common in Deldar society

[dusk patrol]

This concludes my TEDTalk on “Genocide: Why it’s ok sometimes”

[dusk patrol]

Oh wow

Really?

[arctic talon]

LOL

[opaque coyote]

To the point where betraying each other is basically an entire expression of a relationship

[dusk patrol]

Next you’ll tell me they also like spikey stuff

[opaque coyote]

If your Husband didn't poison your drink and put a knife inside your pillow case

Then he's simply just not worth it

Imagine a Deldar Dating Advice book

[dusk patrol]

They’re good villains cause it’s completely guilt free

Literally nothing you can do they don’t deserve

[opaque coyote]

"Remember ladies: Always prepare your salted spiked club to truly show him that you're interested."

[dusk patrol]

Also why opening the warp rift in the Kabal spire is based af

[opaque coyote]

Also ironically, giving them a painless death would actually be the worst

Since if you give them a painful one, they might get off on it while they're dying

[dusk patrol]

One very solid argument for why killing Slannesh/imprisoning could be disastrous too

Is what do you think the Drukhari are gonna do if they can enter real space without issues?

[opaque coyote]

What Vect would call

"A smidgen of tomfoolery"

[dusk patrol]

For Vect it’s bad because he loses his grip on them

[opaque coyote]

I feel bad for the Deldar

...

I also don't.

It's weird.

[dusk patrol]

He doesn’t want a solution because if one is found it threatens his power

Eh fuck em

[opaque coyote]

Basically they never really have a choice

At least the new ones

[dusk patrol]

Lots of people don’t, lots of people don’t torture innocents for their own selfish ends and pleasures

[opaque coyote]

If they pull a middle finger if you have a solution to being free from Slaanesh though

Shoot em

[dusk patrol]

Abuse stops being an excuse as soon as you affect other people

[opaque coyote]

True but then again the entire culture of commarragh is abusive.

Like literally it runs off of it

[dusk patrol]

Doesn’t matter

[opaque coyote]

Torture is an economy to them

[dusk patrol]

So does the Imperium

Doesn’t make them right

[opaque coyote]

Basically

Burn them all

But make it quick

[dusk patrol]

You can justify all of 40k eventually with that line of thinking

[opaque coyote]

True

So yeah I'm gonna stop

Burn Commarragh down

[dusk patrol]

Also tbf it’s one Brooks book we see that in

[opaque coyote]

Also Exodites are fairly chill

[dusk patrol]

And it’s one example

[opaque coyote]

Dinosaur yippee

[dusk patrol]

Raptor elves

What a bizarre faction

Amish Dino Farmer Elves

[opaque coyote]

I find it funny that the Craftworld Eldar were essentially doomsday preppers

[dusk patrol]

Exodites I love but I also don’t get why people are surprised they don’t get much support

[opaque coyote]

Like they were aware of what was gonna happen so they quickly made what's essentially a bunker. And prepared when shit goes down

[dusk patrol]

They’re a hard faction to execute imo

[opaque coyote]

Exodites are essentially Amish

[dusk patrol]

And also justifying conflicts with them is wonky a lot of times

[opaque coyote]

I mean their entire purpose is that they're refraining from technology

So it's quite hard to like

Make stuff for them

[dusk patrol]

Dinos are cool but like

There’s limits

[opaque coyote]

Yeah like tf are you gonna make as a Tank?

A Knight/Titan equivalent?

Etc

[shadow plover]

brontosaurus...

[opaque coyote]

...I have an idea

Giant Capybara

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-capybra-ride-baby-capybara-two-capybara-baby-capybaras-gif-3774921832849281680

[dusk patrol]

T-Rex

Big T Rex

[opaque coyote]

Fair

[queen laurel]

This is the warhammer 40K universe on a random planet there can be literally a Kaiju large enough to bring down a Titan

[opaque coyote]

The Deldar are probably one of my favorites due to the fact that they are

Unapologetically evil

Even for the Imperium, you can make (extremely poor and unresearched) arguments for why they're "THE GOOD GUYS I SWEAR!!!"

For Chaos, usually there is a tragedy built up. Desperation

For the Deldar?

Nah

No apologies

Pure Evil

And they love it

There is little to no question

It's fun to watch them similar to how an old Disney villain is fun to watch

Especially characters like Vect

Also

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I think it makes the Deldar even more evil

And I love that one example

That the evil is self perpetuated

Learned and marked forever on the Deldar

I guess you can say it's

Grimdark

[dusk patrol]

It is not very cash money that’s for sure

[warm comet]

Humans are kinda just humans

The imperium in terms of like the structure is bad, but the average person will likely be fine

[warm comet]

What is that thing with the eye and tentancles that you have to kill in some objectives?

I swear they say its name but I don’t remember

[shadow plover]

Corruptor iirc

[solid hearth]

no kidding, especially for the potential monster mounts

KB have some fantastic creature design, it's why I picked them as my army tbh

[rose thorn]

Mhm, they are wonderful. They already have a mounted unit subfaction bu

But to only affects uh

Heroes and I think the crawler?

[solid hearth]

Yeah

Also supposedly the hobgrots are getting a hero unit soon

I can't really complain about KB though because all their models are nice and new

I'm finishing up my spearhead, I have their warcry team next, and a Sludgeraker and Gobsprakk after that

lots to do

[rose thorn]

Yeee!

I have dominion and stormforge tbh

So I have alot of kruleboyz to work on

Morkagorka bless the worst army in AOS

We do have one of the best regiments of renown in the game

[solid hearth]

They're doing better at least lol

[shadow plover]

Not really a fan of the Krule Boy look, but all the other stuff they have going on are great

like the beasties are very cool

big ass bird and the long limbed freak

[solid hearth]

I enjoy them being a little more Tolkien orc

back to 40k, I do love what they've been cooking for Kill Team lately

this edition has four beautiful teams so far

hope we get more like them

I wonder what they'll do for a chaos one, seeing as there have been two Imperium and two Xenos

[queen laurel]

the first ork killtema was good but

this one looks way too good

[rose thorn]

Tbh I’m not a fan

[queen laurel]

They are designed to be the heavy of the orks

And from what i'm getting you're not really a fan of brutally straightforward designs with heavy armor and stuff like that

[rose thorn]

Nothing really makes them like

Unique compared to the kommandos

[solid hearth]

I like ol tenderizer fists

[queen laurel]

I mean even the Kommandos are not really that unique in a sense because they are just you know specialist orks that like stealth

And for tank bustas these guys look sweet

[rose thorn]

These look like random orks from other units thrown together

I like the leader the most

[queen laurel]

really?

i mean they are goffz

But calling them basic isn't really something i think that you can do because they look pretty cool and unique

[rose thorn]

Idk nothing is really unqiue with these guys, I think it might be how they are painted

What are we supposed to be attracted to

Like, the skin is the most attention grabbing part of the whole thing

You can’t even see half the weapons

The hammers are too skinny

That’s why I don’t like

It

Too many skinny weapons

[queen laurel]

really?

i think size wize they look good

[shadow plover]

I like em, very bulky boys with very cool armour pieces

[solid hearth]

I'm like 90s percent on one of the aspect warriors getting another kill team

[queen laurel]

but i can see where you are coming from

[queen laurel]

both of them look good

To be honest

[rose thorn]

Yea

[queen laurel]

Like they are the opposite

One is a demolition specialist while one is for espionage and stuff

[rose thorn]

I just don’t like black armor I guess

[rose thorn]

They are orks

They have the same rocket launcher too

[queen laurel]

I mean in specialty

The other squad specializes in demolition like i said

[solid hearth]

Warp Spiders maybe?

[queen laurel]

These guys are the sneaky all rounders

[queen laurel]

i think that's Black orc symdrome

visually they are not unique and are just designed to look like Giant armored brutes, and since their design isn't the greatest few like them

Like you only really like that type of design if you're into that sort of thing

[rose thorn]

Also being shirtless doesn’t help

Luckily I don’t have an ork army and I can’t use ratlings in gsc

So I don’t need to buy this lol

[queen laurel]

well atleast ork Necromunda players can have another choice

Not just being stuck with the Kommandos

[rose thorn]

I think when other people paint them I’d like them a lot more

The black on black backgrounds

Makes them look alot squishier then me

[queen laurel]

Yeah they look a lot bigger and tougher when you can see their outlines and the color doesn't blend in

[rose thorn]

There we go

Yeha I see it now

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's just the black on black thing but when you see it with a clearer background they look more awesome

[rose thorn]

This is replacing the kit that also builds lootas right?

[queen laurel]

what

there no lootas in killteam

[rose thorn]

I mean the 40k unit

[queen laurel]

you mean Tankbustas?

[rose thorn]

Oh my bad

[rose thorn]

Yea tank busta

Holy fuck that is old

[queen laurel]

yeah lootas are the ones that like stealing and carry those large shoulder mounted guns

[rose thorn]

My bad they had the same armor as lootas for half their guys

[queen laurel]

No worries

[rose thorn]

Hope this replaces the tank bustas

[queen laurel]

Trust me i wish so too

God the mold was old

[outer wave]

Why his legs so small

[queen laurel]

perspective

[outer wave]

Thought orks were gigachads of fitness

[celest dome]

Fish eye lense

[queen laurel]

they are but again perspective

[outer wave]

Okay yeah I'm seeing the fish eye perspective now

Still funny to see an ork skip leg day though

[queen laurel]

they don't

[outer wave]

Bulgur please, lemme believe there is the one Greenskin that ignores leg day.....

[queen laurel]

no

[outer wave]

😔

My truth has been overwritten...

[queen laurel]

no such thing

[outer wave]

Isn't he from the now shelved sub-race of greenskins that were supposed to have the more triablisitic ones?

[queen laurel]

yeah Bonesplitterz

[outer wave]

Damn

[queen laurel]

lorewise they still exist but gameplay wise they no longer do

their table top catalog got deleted

[outer wave]

Still a shame since that's such a good looking model

[queen laurel]

majority of the models are old anyway

[outer wave]

Fair

[queen laurel]

like very very old

[outer wave]

We talking Early 2010s?

[celest dome]

I'm sure the Hobgobbo skip leg day

[queen laurel]

they are outdated

[queen laurel]

the one that you said looks cool is from underworld and from a squad called Hedkrakka's Madmob

oop wrong person

@outer wave

[celest dome]

Where does Oll Pearsons (Ollianus Pious ?) Even say that Alexander was the Emperor ?

[crystal forum]

old person, my favorite warhammer character

me realizing that perpetuals only exist so writers can do exposition about the emperor's past without using xenos

[crisp heath]

Could one custodes have conquered unification war era terra on its own?

[celest dome]

no

[green loom]

They

They fought in that war

lol

[dusk patrol]

Unifiction Terra was a wild time

The Thunder Warriors then all the legions fought in it

As well as Custodes and countless human soldiers

Many of whom would go on to become famous generals of the Great Crusade

It took almost 200 years too

[crisp heath]

I’m always over estimating them

Hear one story of 5 of them fighting off a million tyranids

And then them needing tons of them and support to fight mad max humans

[gray umbra]

Rule of cool

Like how my psyker pyromancer sanctic bladedancer can obliterate an entire room of people in one turn

[dusk patrol]

Similar to how I could totally have taken on prime Mike Tyson since I started working out

But also Unification Terra was insane, there was a lot of dark age tech and insane psykers and chaos forces and other crazy things

To the point where a lot of Unifiction veterans in the Great Crusade era didn’t like talking about it

[small grail]

what is common between a pack of gum and a gun

[dusk patrol]

I can shove both up your ass

[small grail]

when you pull it out everyone wants to be ur friend

[small grail]

damn who pissed in ur drink bro

[dusk patrol]

There’s this guy who set up a really lame joke in this 40k discord

[small grail]

my bad bro

was meant to be a dark joke

fucked it up

[crystal forum]

dont underestimate techno barbarians. they sound like any old shitty warriors that the imperium curb stomped during the great crusade but they were extremely powerful with their dark age tech

[gray umbra]

Its halloween jay

[crystal forum]

happy month

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-gif-8497733

Not to be confused with Techno Viking

[crystal forum]

anyways yeah lightning warriors were much stronger than space marines and even they struggled

[dusk patrol]

Thunder warriors

You fake fan

[crystal forum]

right

you got me there

[dusk patrol]

And they were physically stronger but much worse at working as a group

Individually they were better sorta, but as a whole they were much less effective

Plus they often went insane

Which was a bad selling point

[crystal forum]

sounds like half the loyalist founding chapters

[gray umbra]

🙂

[crystal forum]

it's okay for space wolves and blood angels to become crazy because their primarchs are hot

[dusk patrol]

Thunder Warriors were way beyond that

Plus they didn’t last long

[crystal forum]

except the ones who did because plot reasons

[gray umbra]

Konrad kurze is a stable genius

[dusk patrol]

We have a case of a couple surviving by luck and stealing organs

And they’re not in great shape either

[small grail]

was

and i doubt hes a genius

bro said imma die just cuz he saw his death

[viral halo]

How is everyone today

[small grail]

and hell he even saw what happens to the other primarchs and refused to warn em

way before theyre deaths and whatever

[dusk patrol]

Curze may have had some issues

[small grail]

"some" is the keyword

[crystal forum]

batman if he killed the joker

[dusk patrol]

Dude had more mental illnesses than a self diagnosing year one psychology student

[viral halo]

Batman is based

[dusk patrol]

False dichotomy, Batman got laid

[small grail]

since when was that a problem

he bagged a baddie

baddies my mistake

[gray umbra]

Im sure konrad puts those lightning claws to good use

[small grail]

yep

[viral halo]

Batman canonically eats catwomans box

[small grail]

mutilating innocents

[small grail]

yea

[dusk patrol]

Anything used on your mom isn’t good

[small grail]

wonder womans as well

[small grail]

u still mad about that joke?

[dusk patrol]

Not everything is about you

And I wasn’t replying to you

[viral halo]

https://tenor.com/view/not-those-men-kingdom-of-heaven-army-gif-16618294

https://tenor.com/view/kingdom-of-heaven-nothing-everything-saladin-nothing-everything-gif-26584233

Eternal rn

[gray umbra]

Would a blank have helped konrad chill the fuck out

[small grail]

im asking bro

[viral halo]

God that movie sucks

[dusk patrol]

No I don’t care

[small grail]

blunt?

[crystal forum]

konrad would have flayed the blank

[gray umbra]

Psychic blank

[small grail]

damn ok

[small grail]

oh

[crystal forum]

this person is WEIRD
pulls out flaying kit

[dusk patrol]

It has some cool scenes but it’s got the typical Ridley Scot “what historical accuracy when I can just proselytize?”

[viral halo]

Weed makes you insane and kill the people around you

[viral halo]

I still can’t believe how bad the Napoleon movie was

[dusk patrol]

Guys, hear me out, what if war, is bad?

What if we did Napoleon, but it was all basically a meme version

Without any historical aspects

[crystal forum]

let's make a napoleon bio movie where the main focus is how much he loves fucking his wife or something

[viral halo]

CGI battle scenes suck

[crystal forum]

truly this is what this historical figure is known for

[dusk patrol]

Obviously Napoleon was defined by his wife he barely saw

[small grail]

so night lords are always high

[dusk patrol]

It did have some good scenes though

[crystal forum]

i literally fell asleep watching napoleon

[small grail]

Big N had a wife?

[dusk patrol]

I think he had a couple

Can’t recall

[opaque coyote]

Space Marines be like

[crystal forum]

the battle scenes which have no context or explanation and come out of nowhere were nice yeah

[dusk patrol]

All I know is the movie is basically about how he’s a huge simp

[small grail]

wasnt that a thing in son of the forest where lion cudnt get a bed to sleep cuz he was to big

[dusk patrol]

When in reality he was probably just aware she was cheating on him

[viral halo]

He was married famously to Josephine then a countess of aragon I believe

[crystal forum]

but uh i was utterly confused about what the fuck was going on because im not a french history nerd

[gray umbra]

Arent u canadian

[viral halo]

He was very aware, it’s well documented in over 10k of his letters

[dusk patrol]

Which are also largely inaccurate lol

But they did look cool

[opaque coyote]

I think Napoleon loved one of his wives?

Not enough to not cheat on her tho

[dusk patrol]

Yeah the “don’t wash” line wasn’t what people think it was lol

[viral halo]

Napoleon loved Josephine but she cucked him

[dusk patrol]

He was basically saying “don’t fuck any dudes for a little bit”

[viral halo]

Very hard

And then he divorced her to marry a noblewoman who could have kids

For legitimacy purposes

[opaque coyote]

Napoleon moment

[crystal forum]

but yeah blowing 130 million dollars on how much riddley scott doesnt like napoleon is certainly 2023 in a nutshell

[dusk patrol]

Ridley is an odd duck

Brilliant director

But man he’s so hit or miss

I’d never wanna meet him

Dude is the definition of a crotchety old man

[crystal forum]

apparently his next movie is gladiator 2

[dusk patrol]

“The Last Duel didn’t do good because TikTok!”

Not because it’s a three hour slow drama about a rape which it shows

[crystal forum]

why they thought gladiator needed a sequel 24 years later is anybody's guess

[dusk patrol]

Multiple times

It’s a good movie but like

It’s not exactly a wide audience

[opaque coyote]

Idk Avatar got one

So

Eh

[dusk patrol]

It’s got Pedro Pascal in his daddy era so it’ll probably be pretty good

[small grail]

gladiator 2s comin out right?

[crystal forum]

pedro pascal in it yeah