40k-lore-chat

[small grail]

what are those

[celest dome]

I feel like they're really miss using Stormcast again

Stormcast, AoS

[queen laurel]

Age of sigmar stormcast eternals

[small grail]

ah

kinda look like custodes but ye

how wud a custodes do in the 40k fantasy

[celest dome]

Used to be compared to SM quite often
Sigmarine was a pejorative name for them

[queen laurel]

Mate those stormcast reveals are sick but man we have way too many crossbow storm cast

[celest dome]

The new army ones are great, but I don't think any of the Warband has been any good

[small grail]

is Venerable dreadnought like a title or rank in 40k ?

[celest dome]

Title

[small grail]

ah

[celest dome]

Just very old Dreads

[small grail]

basically veteran dreads

[celest dome]

Ye

[small grail]

how old are most dreads

[green loom]

Old

[small grail]

cuz like i know there was old dreads like the prototype ones

but do they still live in new bodies

[small grail]

based

[celest dome]

Ancient beyond centuries

[small grail]

hm

what is the point of the high nobels

in 40k

are they just pompous rich dudes

[rocky gale]

Darkoath spearhead

[gaunt sable]

Successfully Digs!
Okay so I found evidence that not ALL Psykers get mobbed upon Death and benibbled by Daemons.

[small grail]

what is ur pfp

is it an OC

[gaunt sable]

Darkness in the Blood has a mortal Psyker who managed to carve out a recreation of Baal Primus and seems to just do whatever he wants.

[gaunt sable]

Yes.

[small grail]

looks like adude

[celest dome]

Drakoath Spearhead

[small grail]

are death korps soldiers like spacemarines

like are they made genetically

[queen laurel]

What no

Oh that

[celest dome]

SM aren't made genetically

[queen laurel]

Yeah they are said to be clones

[celest dome]

Vat born

[queen laurel]

But now if you're talking making process

They are yeah vat born

[small grail]

meant to say clones

[queen laurel]

Space marines are

[rocky gale]

And it’s got the darkoath warcry squad in it

[small grail]

so kinda star wars

[queen laurel]

Never cloned but are genetically enhanced humans

[small grail]

so whats the point of guardsmen when u have those monsters

they fight lkike ants

[queen laurel]

Is this the supposed thing where they bring in the other board game groups to the army

I heard that was a rumor

[celest dome]

Aws, they're hugging

[celest dome]

SM are way expensive, not scallable to the size needed, and the Guard is doing most of the fighting, not SM

[queen laurel]

Like they are bringing the squads from like war cry or underworld into the main game

[small grail]

so death korps are like special forces

kinda

[celest dome]

No

[small grail]

then?

[celest dome]

Death Korp are just normal guardsmen

[small grail]

uh huh

[queen laurel]

They are normal guardsmen that use their numbers for infantry shock assaults and artillery

[dusk patrol]

They’re a veteran regiment

[celest dome]

Full battleforce

[queen laurel]

That's their entire tactics basically

[small grail]

im not comparin between SMs and death korp im mean between guardsman and death korp

[queen laurel]

Oh that Wrekkamobs box look nice

[dusk patrol]

Yes we know

[green loom]

Their uniforms are different

[dusk patrol]

They’re not special forces

[small grail]

ah thank u thats good enought

[dusk patrol]

They’re better than most basic regiments

[celest dome]

They're not special.
Infantry and artilery regiment

[small grail]

k

i have understood it now thank u brothers

[gaunt sable]

Because it is. :V

[small grail]

now brings me to a query

im gonna draw a SM with iron man colors

wud that be a goood fit?

[celest dome]

Wouldn't be any stranger than the many chapter heraldry

[small grail]

lik mark 42 colors

but more red than gold

[green loom]

BA

Tbh

[small grail]

what

[dusk patrol]

I mean there’s worse

[green loom]

BA use lots of gold and close enough red lol

[dusk patrol]

Kinda already been done though

[small grail]

i have got the sketch

imma send itt

took me 30 mins

[celest dome]

The Armies of Sigmar battleforce seem to be quite a good selection

[small grail]

wait i have sketch i shall give'

[queen laurel]

Hey cactus that replace their spikes with chainsaws

Do you have a better shot of the iron jawz box?

[small grail]

this is the sketch

have i cooked or am i cooked

[dusk patrol]

Why would you be cooked

[small grail]

fingers are so hard to draw

[small grail]

i fucked upp the fingers

[celest dome]

Had to improvise https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer/clip/RealEndearingPigJKanStyle-uU27U--jzA35p29n

[dusk patrol]

It’s not perfect but it’s a good start

The helmet could be more defined too

[small grail]

overall how good

[small grail]

i wanted it to look like he got hir with a fist

or like a ork smacked him

[green loom]

Oh shit they're selling ghal maraz

[small grail]

i have another one tho

[celest dome]

Honestly I'm not one to hang weapons on my wall, but...

[queen laurel]

Damn that is good

It's all the new units and mold for the Ard'boyz

[small grail]

wud a hammer gun be outta character for orks?

[queen laurel]

You're really asking that

A gun hammer out of character for an ork?

Bro

[small grail]

i mean yea stup id question

so sorry

but wud it work

[celest dome]

Getting 30k Mechanicum update but what about the 40k Admech

[queen laurel]

Bro look at snazz guns and ask me again

Is an ork hammer that is also a gun out of character

[small grail]

but like we dont see it

id love to see it

[queen laurel]

Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it can't exist

It's literally just strapping a gun to a f****** hammer it's not that hard to do

[small grail]

fuck it ill make adrawing of it

[small grail]

no like a warhammer

the 2 handed ones

[green loom]

Oh that's dark mech

[spare osprey]

NO WAY

[celest dome]

The Stalker is cute

[small grail]

what the fuck is that entity in the back

'

[green loom]

Stalk tank

Or something

[small grail]

jeez thats creepy

[spare osprey]

I’m gonna lose

So much money

[small grail]

creepy shit

[spare osprey]

I’ve just lost a bet

[small grail]

imagine ifg it was like abateery operated thing

make it walk n shit

[green loom]

It's only for LI!

[spare osprey]

He bet just for LI

[green loom]

Oh lel

[small grail]

looks so fuckin cool

[celest dome]

Halfling ?

No Ratling maybe

Yep Ratling

[green loom]

RATLINGS

[small grail]

wud a 400,00 point army be too much for 2 people?

[small grail]

400,000 i mean

[celest dome]

Just missing the Ork one

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745324840097153167/1292151800853696552/IMG_7510.png?ex=6702b1a4&is=67016024&hm=005e98ab8f2b555c054ffe09c32226cdb604249d429a9e64767a417b92aa37bd&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=597&height=676

Otherwise we have everything

[green loom]

It'd be too much for around 200 people

[rocky gale]

Top right still

[celest dome]

It's the one now

[small grail]

hm what if most of the units are titans and rhinos

and a couple dreads

[green loom]

Literally just play Titanicus at that point lol

[small grail]

i mean yes but

what if u wanna be different

[rocky gale]

Pretty pog

[small grail]

indeed

[celest dome]

This one

[spare osprey]

@queen laurel

[queen laurel]

Ok damn

Forget the range part these guys look like they can square up to a tank

[celest dome]

I think this is the Ork in question

[spare osprey]

That’s the lad

[small grail]

whys bro built ;like the rock

[queen laurel]

Ah yes the big rokkit launcher

Bro why did they put the ratlings against these guys

They are going to get turned into

Red paste

[spare osprey]

They’re dope

[queen laurel]

Forget the semblance of range for these guys they will go up to you and pulp your skull in

[queen laurel]

Can you show me the time stamp for these guys

[green loom]

Arf

[spare osprey]

Can’t go backwards I’m afraid

[queen laurel]

Well then i'm just going to have to wait for it to come to the community news

[spare osprey]

Yeps

[queen laurel]

Aight thank you man

[spare osprey]

Ohhhh shit

Emp children

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah going by the team these are tank bustas right

[rocky gale]

EC coming 2025

[queen laurel]

They seem to carry a lot of armor piercing weapons

[spare osprey]

More or less

Lads are called Wreckas

[queen laurel]

Yeah they definitely our tank bustas

[queen laurel]

Yeah they carry like what completely almost rocket weapons

[spare osprey]

Mhm

[queen laurel]

They are definitely a demolition specialist team

[spare osprey]

One’s got a rocket hammer

[rocky gale]

Best recent reveal show

[green loom]

They said outright that they're tank bustas ya

[queen laurel]

Yeah with their weapon choices being mostly rockets and explosives

[tough haven]

If you think about it, carrier waves just boil down to skelepathy

[queen laurel]

And literal heavy hitting melee weapons with very little room for finesse

[tough haven]

If only tankbustas weren’t ass

[tough haven]

Random shower thought

[queen laurel]

This for kill team so their performance will be different

[rocky gale]

Yea they're more heavily armoured, like specialist Tankbustas

[queen laurel]

Yeah these guys would probably play like elites that are not the fastest but are hard hitting maniacs

[winter vessel]

awesome

[rocky gale]

Some good Battleforces tbh

[tough haven]

I just want regular ones to be usable

[rocky gale]

Warcom's down for me

[rose thorn]

I can’t watch the stream can i get a sum up

[rose thorn]

Same

[rocky gale]

Uhhh

Starting with AoS

Then the Christmas Battleforces

New Underworlds

Ork Tank Buster vs Ratlings Killteam

With Bunker terrain

and a teaser for Emperors Children coming in 2025

Think that might be everything

[plush mason]

i love the bomb rat

[queen laurel]

I was expecting a ranged ork kill team

These guys look like they are straight up just better at melee compared to the first one

[rocky gale]

They seem like they're all rockets or melee

[plush mason]

well one looks like he has a giant rokket launcher for an arm

[rose thorn]

WOOOO

[rocky gale]

Darkoath Spearhead is huge because it's got both a Warqueen and the Warcry team in it

[rose thorn]

I ONOITS SO COOLIM SO HAPOY

[rocky gale]

A fine addition to my collection

and you can never have too many Fellriders

[spare osprey]

And we got a full team pic

[hallow saddle]

im going absolutely mental

@ EC

hell yes

[queen laurel]

Fuck yeah

[hallow saddle]

literally confirmed

[rose thorn]

Gonna use these guys for vanguard raptors

Also this is like a soft confirmation that the current vanguard chamber is fine since this is in the same style as the rest of vanguard

[queen laurel]

Man i will say they look nice but how many f****** storm cast crossbow people do we need

There is a lot of them

[rose thorn]

We have like 3?

[queen laurel]

I see

I could have sworn they have a lot of them

[crisp heath]

neat. what´s warhammer underworlds though?

[rose thorn]

It’s like, a deck building age of sigmar skirmishing game

It’s really good

[crisp heath]

deck building? like with playing cards?

[rose thorn]

Yeah, each warband you buy comes with its own deck and a booster deck and you can build a deck

The rules we werird but it seems with this new edition they moght be giving an app

[crisp heath]

lol

playing cards game but with figures and it also needs an app

[wintry scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3wzMCg1N-E What is this?

[storm jungle]

Already looks kinda awkward and jank

but ill save proper criticism until its out

just for the love of god be something more than marines walking around shooting aliens with a lame plot 😩

we had like 5 animations of that already waaaa

[celest dome]

Is it supposed to be a future video game ?

[raven stone]

Also did the Warhammer Community page die lol?
I can’t get on it…

[wintry scarab]

I first thought it was like some deathwatch kill team. 😦

[raven stone]

More things like Darktide please. More human focus.

[rocky gale]

Been dead for about 2 hours now

Like right after the Reveal show ended

[rose thorn]

It gets like, consistent updates unlike other gw games.

[storm jungle]

40K also had quite a few card games

[raven stone]

Rofl what a fail, can’t update on time…

[rose thorn]

Key word had

Underworlds is still a tabletop game

[rocky gale]

Shame Underworlds only keeps the models around for a few months

[storm jungle]

yeah we are talking like EARLY 2000's

[rose thorn]

You just build yo ur deck of abilities

[rose thorn]

Yeah, they have been bringing back some beast grave and mirror cities though

and marrowdread

[rocky gale]

The only ones you can currently get on the website is the Wintermaw box and Daggoks Stabba lads

[rose thorn]

No??

They are under their army’s page

They aren’t in the underworld section

[rocky gale]

Oh

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[rocky gale]

Huh

I don't see them

[green loom]

.....it IS out

https://warhammertv.com/player/25584/stream?assetType=movies&playlist_id=4

[rose thorn]

What country are you set to?

[green loom]

It's free on da site

[rocky gale]

UK

Don't see them when I switch to US either

[rose thorn]

Here’s what I found so far

O h

[rocky gale]

Oh great now the Warhammer store isn't even loading

[rose thorn]

Sorry bot

Just search in underworlds

And there is more I think

I don’t wanna spam the chat but here’s a few

[rocky gale]

Huh

[rose thorn]

Yeah they are on the army’s store pages it’s weird

[rocky gale]

Anyway, I can't even open the webpage anymore

[rose thorn]

I had to reset my country to fix it

[rocky gale]

Are these ones there?

[wintry scarab]

Do the new ratlings come with new ogryn or nah?

[green loom]

Nope

[rocky gale]

Because they're some of the best Daemonette models we've had and it's a massive shame if they were squatted after less than a year

[rose thorn]

No sadly

Probably because they broke warcry

[rocky gale]

Store is fixed, no Grymwatch either

Again, such a shame

[rose thorn]

Yeah they are super super old

(And bad)

[rocky gale]

Nooo they're cool

[rose thorn]

They are cool I love them

They are bad rules wise

[rocky gale]

Oh

[rose thorn]

They wil return eventually

Also stores keep their old underworlds boxes

You can always check your lgs or warhammer store if they have any old underworlds stuff

They brought back some old BeastGrave warbands so they will return eventually

[rocky gale]

I've seen Underworld stuff at my LGS, but never anything I want

[rose thorn]

Ie plague pack

[rocky gale]

Hmm

I'll check either tomorrow or next week

[rose thorn]

Any more reveals?

I saw the heroes

[rocky gale]

No, pretty sure I posted everything

[celest dome]

Heroes ?

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/UhssZHb0U8s?si=moG41l7RzziXD73O

I love how Reed just literally said "Good Luck"

And then he immediately became paranoid as fuck

Also, god damn, he can't even have a normal echo chamber

He had to build the most extravagant echo chamber

Filled with himself

Truly, an echo chamber worth of Dr. Doom's caliber

[shell mason]

the Mandrake minis are epic as hell

[rose thorn]

very hype about heroes, do you think they wil have their own unique warcry warband?

or will it just be the uh, warrior chamebr

[shell mason]

this has been a very Victor Von DOOM year

[torpid narwhal]

[dusk patrol]

Well we can’t all be Weta

[gray umbra]

titus looks like he's trying to hold back a big shit

[torpid narwhal]

how do space marines shit?

[rocky gale]

GW is walking back the squatting of Deathwatch

[dusk patrol]

Same way we do

[torpid narwhal]

ya but their armor is welded on

[dusk patrol]

They can remove it in the field but also it takes care of any waste

[languid meadow]

LET'S GO IMPERIUM!
SCORE SOME FACKING GOALS!

[dusk patrol]

Ratlings come prepared

[languid meadow]

besides the EC teaser this is the best thing to come from the reveals

I love it so much

[leaden pilot]

Well you can't fight with an empty stomach, can you?

[dusk patrol]

This was also nice to see

[dusk patrol]

An army runs in its stomach, wot wot.

[opaque coyote]

Deathwatch no longer shafted

Honestly Deathwatch has the most potential for cool designs

Especially since some extremist ones use Xenos weapons in lore

So you can potentially have some minis that use like

[dusk patrol]

There’s a lot they can do with it

[opaque coyote]

Tau Railcannons or something

Or some Xenos tech mixed in their armor for some serious tech heresy

[dusk patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3wzMCg1N-E

[languid meadow]

I'm trying to remember but isn't there a deathwatch character that uses a necron hyperphase sword

or a necron melee weapon

[dusk patrol]

I’m curious if Saber might do some prequel missions for SM2

Show Titus’s squad more

They have the assets already

[dusk patrol]

Xenophase blade

It’s somewhat common

[languid meadow]

yeah

[dusk patrol]

They take it out of vaults before missions and return it after

Requires a special level of trust to be allowed to use one

[opaque coyote]

So

Necron(?) Weapon

Tau Pulse Rifle

Some random Psyker's head used for warp stuff

Modified Bolter

Some grenade

I don't know what creature that skull is?

And I think a Tyranid Claw attached to a sword hilt?

[crystal forum]

one of the units is literally a fucking picnic

[opaque coyote]

You can't fight the enemies of the Imperium

With an empty stomach

Why does that actually look good

They got a rotisserie chicken, a cup of hot chocolate, and even a pie

bro they fucking stole some general's meal

[languid meadow]

while deathwatch being unobliterated is cool we should prob not expect the codex's of old to return ( I hope I'm wrong)

[shell mason]

whos moms that

[storm jungle]

Is this real....

[green loom]

Yes

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

It is quite real

[shell mason]

damn even witchfinder is disappointed

[opaque coyote]

As a genuine question

How many casualties do SMs mount

Each Chapter is only 1000 right?

[languid meadow]

depends on the chapter and enemy they're fighting

like fighting tau is gonna rack up more causalities than orks for most chapters

[opaque coyote]

I mean a lot of fights usually have a bunch of SMs die.

And due to the low success rate of Geneseed implants, it must take a while to replenish

[green loom]

They probably have a while usually

Plus reserves

And we tend to get a lot of the horrid nightmare fights where dozens die

[languid meadow]

pretty sure the 1000 limit is also just full marines as well

remember there is the 10th company? that is all scouts ready to be upgraded into battle brothers

[flint tiger]

Also doesn't count pilots/drivers and crews as well I do believe

[rose thorn]

I think imperialis got the W

[arctic talon]

The 1000 limit does not count pilot/drivers, command staff, honor guard, ect.

[rose thorn]

Oh and gaurd

[arctic talon]

Loyalist mechanicum will suffer more

[storm jungle]

Good.

Darkmech lets goooo

[rose thorn]

I will not downplay how BIG this box is to the slaves to darkness community

[languid meadow]

man DM got some banger shit wth

[rose thorn]

This is technically the biggest W

[arctic talon]

this looks worse then the current one for general use ngl

but its very good for darkoath stuff

[rose thorn]

This is one of the best deals you could get for darkoath

[arctic talon]

mhm

[rose thorn]

I would buy this box twice

Or this with last edition’s box for. A good price

The warcry warband makes up a huge huge value

I wish it came with their monster but you can’t win them all

Gonna be real I kinda hate this?

[arctic talon]

I'm meh on it

weird killteam

[rose thorn]

It makes no sense this would be a killteam but what ever

[arctic talon]

it does fit what I imagine tankbustas to look at

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

but weird killteam choice

then again we've had weirder imo

[rose thorn]

I think in yellow armor they would look better

Or red

Black makes it look like bloodbowl

[arctic talon]

meh

Goffs are the like

Poster children

Even in killteam oddly

[rose thorn]

Blood axes were the killteam team tho weren’t they?

[arctic talon]

No

they were goff kommandos

[rose thorn]

Oh

[arctic talon]

Which is such a strange choice

imo

[rose thorn]

I think they were just painted kinda poorly, what are we supposed to be attracted to on the models?

What’s the cool factor

Luckily I don’t play 40k orks

[rose thorn]

Holy shit this is such a good box, it’s the perfect box to fill a regiment for legions of chaos

And it’s perfect to expand upon

You can buy SOOOO many models to add onto it

Any monster, dark oath chieftain, more horses or more normal guys

[arctic talon]

they def are not painted badly

that is such a weird take ngl

at least to me

[rose thorn]

Not badly, I think the focus just ain’t there

Comparing these two teams, the halflings paint job brings focus to the fact they are short guys with guns the length of their bodies. There was a lot of detail put into their shirts to highly their hobbit bodies.

The breakas really only draw your eye to their skin

I might just be too pre exposed to ironjawz tbh

[dusk patrol]

@arctic talon technically another guard Killteam

[rose thorn]

also, as a pauper princess genestealer cultist, I am legally required to hate all ratlings

My political opinions on ratlings are not positive

[rose thorn]

Maybe gaurd codex soon.. maybe we can get brood brothers back

Please gw, please

Do you think this model will have rules?

[arctic talon]

I've already expressed my distaste

about it

[rose thorn]

At least it isn’t ’hyper elite guardsman #72’

[arctic talon]

no

I still hate it lol

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

I hate it even more

because guard are getting their codex soon

lol

[rose thorn]

I’m upset I can’t even take it

[arctic talon]

GSC couldn't take ratlings in the first place no?

no abhumans

for brood bros

[rose thorn]

Yup

Especially ratlings

[arctic talon]

like since 8e

[rose thorn]

They were specifically stated

[rose thorn]

Even before

Back in 7th

[arctic talon]

GSC weren't in 7th

iirc

wait no

they were

[rose thorn]

They were

[arctic talon]

tail end

[rose thorn]

Yea

[arctic talon]

lol

7e and 8e releases

mix together for me ngl

but yeah they totally got a codex

it was like

[rose thorn]

The pauper princes specifically have a rivalry with ratlings

[arctic talon]

the truck + hybrids

[rose thorn]

Since they assassinated their magus

And any ratlings caught will face a very very very horrible death

Idk the lore for ogryn thoughh

[opaque coyote]

"I am the God of Fuck." -Slaanesh

[rose thorn]

Maybe they are just, so genetically dense they are immune to the effects of trh virus?

[opaque coyote]

I think Ogyrns can be infected by Genestealers

I mean SMs and Orks can after all

Ogyrns are organic so

Yeah

We just never really hear much mention of it

If you want my opinion. They just simply can't "kiss" them because they're too big

5'11" vs 6'0"

[arctic talon]

nah, genestealers can kiss em

the reason the abhumans aren't allowed in Brood bros is always weird

I assume its a they aren't from the main regiment

therfore they aren't infected

[shell mason]

"I'm so violent and sick in the head, I don't know if I should kill my opps or fuck em."

• Lucius The Eternal

[green loom]

I vote the latter

[shell mason]

"They ask me to shoot I do it, I have no character." - Necron Drone

[languid meadow]

Necron warrior #40086082086 is a peak character idk what you

[green loom]

Enemies to lovers is too powerful a trope to ignore

[shell mason]

"Ak sing like a Castrati Castrati singing." - Noise Marine

[languid meadow]

speaking of noise marines I can't wait for updated noise marines

[shell mason]

"Everything turned red for eight minutes, woke up in Geneva. AH MAN I DID IT AGAIN." - Blood Angel

[languid meadow]

help I accidentally blew up a planet again

[opaque coyote]

I especially love his famous line:

"..."

[shell mason]

"I only handed back the free world because I was bored." - Trazyn The Infinite

[torpid narwhal]

i think its like 70 bucks

[storm jungle]

BRUH

I can buy a fucking laptop for that shit

[torpid narwhal]

nvm the price isnt shown yet. the one thats 70 is on the official warhammer site

the one thats messed up is mcfarlin toys so it will prob be expensive

[shell mason]

"Destroyed his bando with a solar flare." - Salamander

[torpid narwhal]

https://mcfarlane.com/toys/lieutenant-titus-space-marine-ii/

[languid meadow]

JT has been a source of some pretty good stuff for 40k

I think they also did a custodes, GK, Gman ( I think )

[torpid narwhal]

what is the bone titas has for?

[shell mason]

"I have no morals or belief system, I have no spirituality or anything that gives my life meaning or structure." - Ork Stealth boy

[torpid narwhal]

JT vs Mcfarlin

[dusk patrol]

tfw can't put the Weta model cause the image is too high quality.

[shell mason]

"They told me I wouldn't shake the city, so I shook that shit like a crying toddler." - Titan

[rose thorn]

You are kidding-

[rose thorn]

Well just made my first stellaris faction, and their lore

(It took me like an hour)

[green loom]

Hell yeah

[rose thorn]

Let me send lore

I can’t be trusted with this game

This is like, the perfect kind of game for me

[green loom]

I think one of my better civs in Stellaris was a tree hive mind

[rose thorn]

Oh yea let me send my leader

[rose thorn]

Plant…

[green loom]

The other big one was communist birds

[languid meadow]

lithoids are such a fun species to play

free motes and you can flood the market with food since you don't eat normal food

[rose thorn]

<3 imma cry when carries burdens croaks

I’m hoping being in a fiefdom would make the early game a bit easier?

If the game doesn’t crash

[languid meadow]

wait the imperial fiefdom origin?

[rose thorn]

Yeah?

[languid meadow]

I mean it can?

[rose thorn]

I picked my origin based off rp

It’s cringe

I know

[languid meadow]

depends on how you play but yeah it can give you a bunch of stuff

[rose thorn]

Oka it crashed we ball

[languid meadow]

I mean when I play paradox games I limit myself to rp sometimes

(most paradox games are built for this)

[rose thorn]

lol fair

Since it crashed first thing let me go and edit my empire to see if there’s a better origin

I kinda misunderstood what it meant tbh

[languid meadow]

I mean fiefdom is really fun but you have to make a major choice early on which determines difficulty

the only origin I don't recommend is payback

[rose thorn]

I have a lot alot of time in endless space and legends, i know this is like endless space cubed so the experience probably doesn’t translate very well lmao

[rose thorn]

Oh?

[languid meadow]

do you know Xcom 1?

[rose thorn]

Yea

[languid meadow]

it's the good ending of that continued basically

you start with so little

but you can get a big ass ship early but you have to fight off the space IRS

[rose thorn]

Lmao

Subterranean seems fitting, I kinda went whole into the mining and engineering

[languid meadow]

Subterranean is also really fun and I think it buffs your livability?

[rose thorn]

Yee by 50%

I mean

Minimum

Species minimum habitility 50%

[languid meadow]

yeah which is really helpful until you get terraforming

Hound sweeeeeep

[rose thorn]

And I took deviants and adaptive instead of uh, decadent and something else

Deviants for rp and adaptive because bug

[languid meadow]

huh I swear I thought there was more traits exclusive to species

only lithoid get exclusive ones

[tough haven]

Dont you need a warlord though?

[languid meadow]

https://twitter.com/dj_b3n1/status/1842649170324185362

beni - (comms - CLOSED)🪓🛡️ (@dj_b3n1) on X

i'm not sorry

Twitter · Oct 5, 2024, 7:32 PM

[low gazelle]

My friend told me that dune is basically family.friendly wh40k

😭

Then he referenced "the messiah is so humble that he declines being the messiah

[rose thorn]

And robots

And plants

[languid meadow]

ah yeah I assumed machines had one but couldn't find it

and I have never touched plantoids

[crisp heath]

The glory of the true gaunt carpet

Tyranid Prime, 180 termagants, and 180 hormagants is below 2,000 points so you still have room for your enhancements

Or just slap a couple units of gargoyles in the fill it out with more gaunts

Nevermind, point cost changed since last I looked. You're stuck with 180 termagants and 140 hormagants with 1 Tyranid Prime as your warlord

A measly 220 gaunts

[rose thorn]

this is like seeing a new generation, seeing half of an edition box for like 50 bucks on eBay is truly a wonderful sight

[shell mason]

welp general chat is weird

[crisp heath]

Damn space marine needs way more ammo

Like double

Especially with zoantrhopes

[languid meadow]

when 2/3 of the team is a melee class and a neurothrope spawns

[crisp heath]

Even with the heavy I wish they had like infinite ammo with the bolter

Since they got no melee

Or if pistols in general just had infinite ammo and the plasma pistol overheated way more or something

[rose thorn]

Lore wise having low ammo is like their downside, which is never brought up in lore besides the codexes

Space marines need constant support otherwise they run out of everything very very quickly

[queen laurel]

hey mag is the community site down for you too?

[rose thorn]

yea its broke for everyone

[queen laurel]

yeah was gonna go there to see the new reveals more clearly

[crisp heath]

I like how the tyranids in this game work like ork’s

Kill the big ones little ones are way less scary

[queen laurel]

yes until the second biggest just takes the group and the problem continues

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think it's mentioned that CSMs generally have a hard time actually getting supplies

As shown in the Night Lords seties

They essentially raid planets and murder anyone they can find for basic supplies and then run away when something actually big comes along

Also most CSMs use older shit like Heavy Stubbers

[rose thorn]

yee

[rose thorn]

CSM make up for it with slave labor, the poorer or split up legions struggle with supplies pretty badly

DG specifically have pretty bad supply issues

while 1k Sons just replace their bullets with mgaic

[queen laurel]

you would think by now they would have dedicated chaos forge worlds for the dark mechanicum

[rose thorn]

this is a meme right?

[queen laurel]

but now they need to use the old guns because well budget cuts

[queen laurel]

no i am genuinely asking here like it's very funny that they still use very old weaponry

[rose thorn]

We just got Vashtor

And the cult of vashtor

Who specifically represents that very thing

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah I forgot about that hopefully that will allow them to get more new technology under their belt

I'm very sorry it's just that they used him on like one plot and kind of throw him away

[rose thorn]

Lmao it’s good

[rose thorn]

Technically 2, but I have no clue why they made him a rival for eh DA

Newer 40k has a lot of weird rivalries

[queen laurel]

i don't really care for chaos much but even for him he only had two plots worth of appearances so i forgot

[rose thorn]

Why is gaz a rival to the space wolves?

Like, is it because they are both meme armies?

[queen laurel]

their memory if my brain damaged dementia isn't kicking in used to be a old lore thing

[rose thorn]

No lmao, they fought like, once before hand

[queen laurel]

i think it was from a very old concersation here

where in the old lore ghaz and ragnar are just rivals just because

it's been awhile but i still prefer yarrick

[rose thorn]

Oh

Whoops

[echo vault]

If I'm going for most librarian psyker obsessed space marine chapter would a blood angels successor or white scars successor work better? I'm kinda going BA because librarian dreadnoughts but both are the most psyker approving first founding ones

[crisp heath]

Who is the worst primarch? Like just overall an awful character with the least interesting things about them?

I’m thinking either ferrus or evil batman (Kurze)

Actually alpharius may be up there cause I literally know absolutely nothing about them and I’m slightly convinced they are just fan content at this point lol

[arctic talon]

Ferrus imo is pretty interesting in what we got but he just has the least lore so he gets the short end of the stick

[queen laurel]

hey elite wolf do kill teams do The team has less number than everyone but my God everyone is a elite hard hitting maniac

[arctic talon]

yesnt?

having less members doesn't' always mean the individual units are objectively better in every way

but it usually does mean they have more actions

• wounds generally

[queen laurel]

the new ork killteam got me thinking

They don't have a lot of members compared to other kill teams but they look like they can take a and it dish back

It seems that their entire shtick is demolishing the entire arena for them to gain an advantage

[arctic talon]

Its a elite team

sorta

The 2 bomb squigs are prolly gona make it less elite

[queen laurel]

i see

well i have a new favorite kill team

Friendship with Kommandos ended Wrecka Krew is my new best friend

[crystal forum]

no loyalty amongst greenskin

[low gazelle]

wait

so since big e can see all futures

does that mean that everythingg is planned

cause last dialouge with guillamen was basically my final tool my last hope

[arctic talon]

Future sight sucks in 40k

lol

[tawny nymph]

I found these guys recently (Jopall Indentured Squadrons) and I was wondering if these artworks with the red shoulders marked 13 were legit or just fanart https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PwX40gl6u5Y

[arctic talon]

The only canon art for them is from the like

3e guard codex

also this singular mini which is literally just a repainted Steel legion one

[tawny nymph]

Oof, that sucks cause those would've been awesome fits to suggest for DT

[spring cairn]

this thing haunts my nightmares

perhaps one of the ugliest guard scheme ever conceived

[storm jungle]

Good. Suffer.

[spring cairn]

a thousand primaris releases upon your bloodline

[storm jungle]

AAA-

[queen laurel]

Cruelty so cruel not even Archaon will wish it to his opponent

[paper haven]

Only thing I know about Jopall is the bit TTS did with them in it.

[spring cairn]

I don't think there's more than what you got in there

it's a brief description for a dogshit scheme

[viral halo]

I would be able to wipe out that entire ratling kill team bare handed irl

I'd pick one up by the ankle and beat the others to death with it

New Ork Kill team is bad ass but what the fuck am I gonna use an anti tank squad for in a squad vs squad game

[queen laurel]

-last Account of Liutenant Scrag Siggy after triping on a trip mine and getting shot in the head

[celest dome]

They're kid sized, but they're as strong as normal people

[queen laurel]

who says you can't shoot someone with a rocket launcher and direct impact them

[queen laurel]

if i wanted to take someone who is short and strong i would go for a dwarf

[viral halo]

Augustinian just war theory

[queen laurel]

it was supposed to be a rhetorical question

[viral halo]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hub-gif-21010881

[rose thorn]

I swore there was a new official how to paint video for them, I think they pained the body armor brown?

[rose thorn]

The new ironjawz box is genuine terrible

You can’t run the box in game

[rocky gale]

But it looks cool

[queen laurel]

these are all basic tabletop units squads of ard'Boyz

with one Weirdbrute Wrekkaz squad one brute Rager squad and a Maw Grunta

so why can't you run them on tabletop

[rose thorn]

the boss cant lead any units in this

[queen laurel]

oh that

[rose thorn]

yoi need ot buy like, a normal boss lmao

[queen laurel]

yeah it is a Tuskboss which is supposed to lead the hit and run heavy cavalry

[rose thorn]

if this came with an ardboy boss it would be perfeclty fine

[queen laurel]

i suppose you can try and make it work

but you know damn well you're not gonna get any benefits

[rose thorn]

it can only lead monsters and cavilary

[queen laurel]

well shit

[rose thorn]

this is like the dark angels combat patrol box lmao

[rose thorn]

it is, you just need to pick up like an ard boss or something liek that

[queen laurel]

I guess it's just something you will buy if you want to have extra bodies to throw

[rose thorn]

an ard boss wouldnt be bad acutlaly

[rocky gale]

It's funny that the Dark Angels Combat Patrol is objectively an awful box, but it was also the perfect box to finish my SM army

[queen laurel]

isn't that like a hero unit and it should be like a mega boss

[rose thorn]

and the DA sprue sell pretty quickly on ebay

[crystal forum]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Y12GRcsRTio?si=okKZQZxk-Hckp3mZ

[rose thorn]

the ardboy boss can lead any infantry and is the cheapest hero you have besides like

a shaman

[queen laurel]

oh i see

[rose thorn]

warchanter

is the cheapest hero you have

with ardboy tied with wierdnob shaman

teh shaman or the chanter can lead ANY ironjaws

so picking them up adn run the maw grunta as the non hero version would make a list

holy shit this box is like

barely 900 points

[rocky gale]

They said in the Stream that a couple of the Battleforce boxes might look odd on their own, but combine great with their respective Combat Patrol/Spearhead boxes

[queen laurel]

so it's a bad box for building an army on its own then

[rose thorn]

ironjawz spearhead confirmed?

[queen laurel]

they didn't say about anything on separating the two Orruk Clans?

[rose thorn]

ironjawz dont have a spearhead box </3

[rocky gale]

Pretty sure that's already confirmed

[queen laurel]

OK they're planning to do it in the future it seems

thank goodness

[rose thorn]

they didnt say they are getting a spear head, but its like heavily heavily implied

[rocky gale]

No I think in one of the Community posts they said an Ironjaw Spearhead would release later, I think it was when they showed off the Kruleboyz spearhead

During the period before 4th came out where they were revealing a Spearhead each day

[queen laurel]

orks in warhammer are doing well

now if only the eldar get as much attention

poor little buggers

[rocky gale]

I'd say we'll see Eldar and Guard in the November reveal show

[queen laurel]

nice

[rose thorn]

excited for another eldar foot hero :>

?

[queen laurel]

i sentence you to 0 Gloomspite releases for five years

oh wait no make it 10

[rose thorn]

we just need new spida clan

[rocky gale]

The Sororitas Battleforce is less than 600 points

[rose thorn]

which is most likely gonan happen

[rose thorn]

I KNOW ITS TERRIBLE LMASO

[rocky gale]

Like they were talking in the Stream about how each box has a big centrepiece model and ours just doesn't

[rose thorn]

the car :3

gsc didnt have one either

we never had one

[rocky gale]

I guess this is our centerpiece

All hail this guy

[dusk patrol]

Book

[rose thorn]

god bless blackstone

[rose thorn]

the last thing sisters porbabl y want is a fat middle aged priest to lead your army

wasnt there like, a whole civil war to stop taht

[rocky gale]

and the annoying thing is they put him into the Ordo Hereticus box which had Sisters in it

So if you bought it, you're gonna end up with two fat popes

[rose thorn]

he would make an amazing GSC magus

if only we ddint ahve 50 magus already

[crystal forum]

im pretty sure they're still commanded by fat priests

[rocky gale]

Unironically the best Sisters Battleforce box we've had all year

[rose thorn]

no they are lead by a lady in a mecha suit

[rocky gale]

Honestly I'll probably just get the Flesh Eater court Battleforce

[viral halo]

heard someone say eldar feet

I'm back

[rocky gale]

Sisters box doesn't interest me and the Cities box would give me a bunch of doubles that I don't want

[rose thorn]

the uh, foot hero?

[rocky gale]

Foot Hero and the Command squad

[rose thorn]

lcukily they gave hum like 90 weapons

[rose thorn]

they both have alot of bits, it owuld be nice to have for like, a 3k point game

[rocky gale]

Plus I've already got a cannon and 10 of the Knights

[rose thorn]

fair

in an hour i can go to my LGS

[rocky gale]

So the only new models would be the Fusiliers and the Fusil Major, which I could just get individually

But honestly I'm not super interested in the Fusiliers right now because their rules are kinda doodoo

[rose thorn]

yea last edition they wer eth eonly way to make the army good lol

so people have like

[dusk patrol]

SoB care more about how religious or fitting with their ideals you are

[rose thorn]

500 of them

[rocky gale]

Like current edition they're basically just worse archers, with less range, less chance to hit and their spiel is remain stationary to get stronger, but even then they're still weaker than other armies archers are by default

[rose thorn]

bruh

[rocky gale]

Like using them against Lumineth where their archers can get like 26" range or something and my guys have I think 18" and need to remain stationary to get their full effect

Pain

[rose thorn]

i play kruleboyz, im use to every enemy unit being better to my own

and stormcast i guess

stormcast are bad for their own reason

i wish we could bring stormcast in cities again tbh

[rocky gale]

I thought you still could with the allies rules?

[rose thorn]

nope, stormcast only have the black talon regiment of renown

[rocky gale]

Nooooo

They removed Allies rules

[rose thorn]

yea\

teh sylvaneth regiment of renown is cool

so livign city is happy

fyreslayers for uh

any city i guess

[rocky gale]

Nooo I had so many allies for my Cities

[rose thorn]

yeah ;~;

gw hates ally armies

[queen laurel]

Is there entire play style confusing the enemy using magic and stabbing them in the back

[rose thorn]

okay so

https://tenor.com/view/gamblecore-stickman-casino-gamble-gif-7118676210396292522

here is how our faction ability works

[rocky gale]

Well not a whole bunch, but like 10 Stormcast models and 2 Daughters of Khaine models that I'd planned as allies

[queen laurel]

there are RNG reliant

well

[rose thorn]

which and which

units?

[queen laurel]

that is certainly

something

[rose thorn]

the yare really really fun abilites

also we were completely busted right beffore teh errant

we use to roll any number of dice to use our abilites

[rose thorn]

Every army is getting a regiment of renown and an army of renown this edition

So there is a chance you can run those Allie’s

[rocky gale]

Uhh, like three praetors, a knight arcanum, a lord vigilant on gryph stalker, a lord veritant and like three different knight questor models

and oh for Daughters of Khaine it's just Krethusa

Forgot the Sorceress is just part of the Cities roster

It's basically just a collection of models I thought looked cool

[rose thorn]

based

[rose thorn]

someone somewhere siad the knight arcanum is likely gonna be in a regiment of renown

i dont have nay proof

but mayb eif we get the stormcast abttletomb next week

please?

pretty please?

[rocky gale]

Like I've got these three (Leena Stormspire, Larissa Shadowstalker and the unique Preator Prime from Stormbringer)

[rose thorn]

i hope the new knight questor rules doenst involve the soul sworn tbh, people have so so sos os many questor soulsworns its no teven funny

[queen laurel]

Do these guys actually play like a magical trickster ambush army like they are presented in lore

turning the land into a swamp and then poking anyone who fell into the water

[rose thorn]

Did they put an AOS mini, in the old world section?

Why??

[queen laurel]

i mean this is just a slann in a Stegadon

if you put in an old world

[rose thorn]

Yeah, but seraphon aren’t supported for old world anymore

[queen laurel]

lizardman maggie

[rose thorn]

Yah they are in old world’s legends

They are supported and will never get a rules update

another W for gloomspite

[queen laurel]

no like I am saying that it's not really outrageous because lizard men used to be a thing in old world

[rose thorn]

But like, they used the AOS slaan too

It’s just an aos model but I guess he put it in the next slots possible

[queen laurel]

i mean they are practically 1 to one from their old world counterparts

[rose thorn]

Yeah but it’s still an aos mini

Gob bless

[queen laurel]

yeah i get where you're coming from but where's the category it's not really suprising

[rose thorn]

Thsi is in the AOS section btw lmao

[queen laurel]

if only savage orks actually look like this

give them some more clothes

[rose thorn]

There is so so so many aos minis in this gold demon lmao

[queen laurel]

makes sense considering that AOS models are very very nice and well made

one of the slayer sword winners it's just Gordrakk painted nicely

and given a new base

[rose thorn]

Should I rewrite my space marine chapter lore?

[queen laurel]

what's their lore

[rose thorn]

they were made to serve for the ordo astra, they are drawn from planets that were investigated by the ordo astra, so they have very very specalized enviormental training

the inquisitor that directly controls the chapter has a special guard

made of space marines taken from planets that were destroyed for being too dangerous and were struck from all imperial records

[queen laurel]

oh i see

[rose thorn]

they goa round planet to planet investigating astral anomalies

[queen laurel]

I mean hey that's pretty interesting

[rose thorn]

im not sure what colors i want them to be

or hwo to make them visually unqiue

they would use alot of ordo xenos veterans

[queen laurel]

hmm yeah a lot of space marine chapters take up a good chunk of color spectrum

[rose thorn]

i had an idea that like, units with capes would a picture ofthier home system on it

Maybe the type of unit they are would reflect what kind of planet they come from

Phobos are from desert planets, Gravis would be from low gravity planets

Or something like that

Idk nothing is fleshed out

[queen laurel]

oh that is nice like flamers being from volcanic planets or something

that is a very neat idea

[rose thorn]

Ye

I remember when I was making them I really annoyed about how hyper specific chapters skills were

Like ‘these guys specialize in anti eldar desert combat’

But like, you can’t have a chapter be bouncing between so many places with only 1k guys

Idk it’s. Weird complaint

[queen laurel]

your guys are compliant with the codex?

[rose thorn]

Yeah, mostly

The inquisitor rules the chapter s

So she can make special arrangements like the special guys I talked about before

[queen laurel]

oh that's cool

[rose thorn]

Also they fight with voidsmen a lot, while the Units in the chapter are specifically adapted to a type of planet their voidsmen are trained for general purpose

Or what ever agents of the imperium I feel like bringing

Im probably gonna rewrite it

I’m just not sure how a chapter can specialize in combat on anomalous planets

Or systems

This chapter has been rewritten soooo many tjmes

[raven stone]

You might want to narrow down which type of anomalous planets.

(Beyond the usual Warp tainted ones)

[queen laurel]

hmm yeah

[raven stone]

Unusually fluctuating gravity? Haunted even without warp presence?

[queen laurel]

your chapter is quite the pickle

to figure out

[rose thorn]

I really like the ‘fuck ass planet, let’s check it out’ idea of my chapter

[raven stone]

Or actually, maybe tie in some planar mysticism.
The planets are anomalous because they are usually related to a prophecy or another.
(Reference: The Tyrant Star)

[rose thorn]

Going to obseenly strange planets that could be a risk to the imperium

[raven stone]

Ordo Astra would probably have Emperor’s Tarot users.

[rose thorn]

The first time I made this chapter they were form a planet with a purple that turned people into psykers

[raven stone]

What I think you want, is pretty much a Chapter of SCP Marines, but they deal with location tied anomalies.

[rose thorn]

And the inquisitor basically said become my chapter or I’ll blow up your star

[rose thorn]

Yea but I never wanna describe it like that lmao

[raven stone]

Write between the lines, and focus on geographic weirdness that doesn’t involve the Warp

Missing populations, chrono anomalies of a specific planet, planets mentioned to be a threat in prophecies.

In Emepror’s Tarot prophecies, or even Xenos prophecies.

Planets with an irregular orbital path (or made irregular) for whatever reasons, natural or not

Populations mysteriously going mad because of the position of a planet

[rose thorn]

Back sorry I was busy

[rocky gale]

New Stormcast are the next Preorder

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/yrpl1os9/sunday-preview-unleash-the-ruination-chamber/?utm_source=CUSTOMERS&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=WH_6th_October_Preview_&utm_term=%2F

[queen laurel]

two things caught my attention

whatever the hell that thing is on the left and that book on the right

[rocky gale]

That book and the Anvilguard one are two I've been waiting for

[queen laurel]

a story about an Ogor Warhulk is as good enough for any for me

[rocky gale]

I also don't remember seeing these guys in previous previews, they look great

[queen laurel]

i'm surprised that they didn't put these things on cities

Gryphounds being an empire thing

[rocky gale]

From what I remember about the Blurb bit she's carrying a veteran Fusilier who lost a leg in a recent campaign.

[queen laurel]

In warhammer fantasy

[queen laurel]

a female Ogor in a book?

you just sold that shit harder

[celest dome]

Which edition did they take out Squats in ?

[rocky gale]

Uhhhhhh

[crystal forum]

wasnt it 8th

[rocky gale]

2nd/3rd

[crystal forum]

oh

[rocky gale]

There abouts

[celest dome]

Thank you

[rocky gale]

They went out of production in like the 90s

98 was when they were confirmed gone when 3rd edition came out and had no rules for them though

[outer wave]

Is that a walking Maw Pit?

Thats pretty chaos-y for Ogors

[queen laurel]

No it's a tree with teeth in it

[rocky gale]

It's a Ravening Gnarloak

Hungry tree

[queen laurel]

Do the tree elves see this thing as a abomination

[rocky gale]

Dunno, don't know much about the Sylvaneth

[queen laurel]

Zog

Well at least it looks cool

[outer wave]

The trunk legs look too fleshy but I think it might be the color

[queen laurel]

That's just your brain

[outer wave]

Probs

[queen laurel]

It looks like a wood

[outer wave]

Mmm a little too pink

[queen laurel]

How about i show you something pink by splattering your brain matter on the floor

[outer wave]

Question though for the AoS lads: similarly to how Flesheater Courts can spread their delusion through food or other people indulging in the delusion, can ogors spread their hunger to other species?

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😔

[queen laurel]

Ogors can't really spread their hunger but they can kind of spread their feelings of eating for the gulping god

[rocky gale]

Not that I know of

[queen laurel]

If you're soul bound to an ogre

You can feel what it's like to eat for Gorkamorka

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How does one become soul bound to ogors?

[queen laurel]

With your souls being connected

[queen laurel]

You take the right of

You know

Soul bound

[outer wave]

Ah fair fair

Thought it'd be alot more involuntary

Like "Oh you stumbled upon this ritual, here you're now soul bound to this tyrant"

[queen laurel]

Those who are Soulbound have their essence entwined with other beings, binding your essence together until death - although it is a painful process that not everyone survives. Enduring the agony grants the survivors a powerful tether and conduit allowing them to draw upon each other’s essence and guarding their soul from Nagash. This group of bound indivduals is known as a Binding

Lexi

So basically if your somehow bound to an ogre